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most normal human beings outside this sub and outside the Internet don’t have such hateful and disdainful views towards the opposite gender. Andrew Tate literally become the most Googled man on the planet within a 4 month time period off like 5 podcast appearances talking about women. The tension between the genders is common and growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 10:50 AM
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Millions of men are doing this you say? In the west, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:25 PM
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I don't know Vietnam, but Japanese people are extremely closted and don't really have much interest in dating foreigners I've seen videos of Japanese women sexually harass white streamers publically
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:12 PM
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It is definitely up their. This is part of the reason why millions of Western men migrate to other countries to date, have casual sex or settle down. The average man in the West would be a catch in many other countries. Sometimes the problem really isn't you but your environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:09 PM
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often push the older man dating a young woman dynamic down everyone's throats They aren't pushing it down anybody's throats, Hollywood is very liberal and pro-feminist. The vast majority of films (Rom-coms, Super Hero Movies, Actions, Dramas) have couples within the same age range Ie. Grease, Titanic, Mr and Mrs. Smith, Spider-Man etc. If anything this issue takes place off camera where older famous actors date younger women IRL. Older men have always preferred and dated younger women and younge…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 10:19 PM
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Male animals frequently compete to the death for mating rights. Historically the spoils of conquest have always involved money and women. Genghis Khan (the ancestor of 8% of Asian men) spoke about his joy for this at length.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:53 PM
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but if he’s not attractive no thanks. That feels like a nightmare Quite the opposite. These men make up the majority of a woman's IG likes, DM's, tinder swipes giving substantial amounts of attention and validation to even average women. Millions of girls have monetized them through cam-sites or online streams. Attractive or not attention from men is something women find power in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:31 PM
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What about older women that are not too attractive? Older women have highest rates of antidepressant use. The stripping away of a woman's beauty is not an easy pill to swallow as indicated by the billions of dollars they spend on anti-aging skincare, surgeries and botox.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:55 AM
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In this age? Physically attractive and autistic. Social media, camera filters and dating apps have created a generation of women who prioritize looks more than almost anything (besides status) in a partner. Any goodlooking man can hop on tinder and secure dozens of messages while even average looking guys swipe all day with not a single match. All the attractive autistic guy has to do is not be too weird and the women will fuck him herself, the ugly normal guy will have to put on a whole charism…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:44 AM
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There are women like that. Probably less than 5% of women can even relate to that and even then they still are getting some attention. A third of young men have not had any sex in years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:36 AM
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Attention is a woman's sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:01 AM
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Yes. Sex for men is one of the most powerful desires in nature, many men have died just in the pursuit of sex. Lack of sex is tied to depression, stress and anger in men. If you were born with a penis, high sex drive, think about women regularly and had to spend the rest of your life never having sex you would probably be miserable. To put it in female terms imagine NEVER having men compliment, stare or even acknowledge you, despite good efforts on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:57 AM
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Female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:02 AM
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I'll argue it's worse. Those women are far more savvy, intentional, and manipulative than any woman you could get in a first world country. 70% of Western women initiate divorces, a third admit to going on dates solely for food, you can frequently see height requirements in their dating profile bios. If you honestly think ANY women on earth is more manipulative than them then you're in over your head. If these women were truly worse Western men would not be flocking to them by the millions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:23 AM
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Passport bros do not believe foreign women are all untainted, naive, pure Disney princesses who can communicate with woodland animals. They know these women are still bound to female tendencies, why else do you think they travel to less wealthy countries? They understand female hypergamy, and know that women anywhere will always punch up. Passport bros do not want a perfect woman they just don't want the worst, which in their view is a Western one. When you go to Alibaba to shop for a product yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:16 AM
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A man in his 40’s with three kids and spends every second in some kid’s ballgame can not relate to a chick in her early 20’s that goes to bars every night. A 21 year old female college student cannot relate to a 30 year old male star athlete but that will not stop her from pursuing. Men like younger women because they are more attractive than older women and people date who they are more attracted to. No different than a woman dating a taller, more muscular guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:06 AM
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Just like I’d look differently at a guy my age who once dated a chick in her 20s vs a guy who exclusively dates chicks in their 20s. The former is unusual, the latter is seriously off. Not anymore unusual or off as a chick who prefers taller men. The affenity men have towards younger women is not unusual at all, in fact the opposite if much stranger. Males have always been more sexually attracted to younger women and consequentially men tend to date women they are more sexually attracted to. Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:02 AM
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Most female bodies are plagued with stretch marks, rolls and cellulite.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:34 PM
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And the idea that if you treat a girl this way, she won't return it in spades is largely ludicrous or a sign you're dating a broken person. So most women are broken according to your logic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:16 AM
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Also - where are the fathers?! Why aren't they raising their children and being a masculine influence? Men have 0 reproductive rights in a majority of US States and most Western countries. If a child is born that is a woman's choice and hers alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:15 AM
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The most handsome men aren’t even close to the most beautiful women. Men are not socially granted a fraction of the beauty products (make-up, fake lashes, hair extensions, plastic surgery etc.) women are. If you took the most beautiful women stripped them of all cosmetics or prior operations and placed them next to the most beautiful men they would fare equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:39 PM
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Most young women have some sort of mental illness. Society encourages mentally ill levels of narcissism in women. Go through a chicks phone and the amount of edited/unedited photos she'll have of herself will be disturbing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:59 PM
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After a while, you just lose attraction for all the model types, since you never get them and therefore are much more turned on by average women as a result. Not really, I've found the most plain jane women have higher standards or guards than the more attractive ones. If I'm going to go though the stressful courting process the girl better be hotter than a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:53 PM
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Stop complaining. Any man regardless of race will have more dating success in SE Asia than any major Western country.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:25 AM
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Even the unattractive ones still expect Queen treatment, why any man with money deals with women in the West is beyond me. It's like spending a $150,000 markup for a 2001 Civic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:24 AM
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even if unattractive women get a date the guy will be out the door the moment he busts Okay??? I guess sex is not a mutually enjoyable act for women and something that is meant for exchanges. The fact that women think that they are somehow victims for the horror of having slept with someone completely out of her league shows how good they have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:37 AM
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I’ll add that the men that constantly whine and bitch about misandry or gynocentrism or drew affualo never show up to help their fellow men in need. Neither do women. Modern feminists will bitch, moan and start entire campaigns to try and dictate how far men can spread their legs on public transit, while completely ignoring women who are legitimately being oppressed in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 12:37 PM
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Women have sex/fake behaving well to manipulate guys to provide/marry them lol Exactly, women evolved to be intrinsically two-faced as a survival mechanism. They sell men a dream like a sleazy car sales man sells up a worn down, used up 2001 Honda. Nothing about a women at first glance is real, not her make-up, body shape or personality, it is all a illusion or lie that they want naive men to accept. This is why they like toxic men so much, because they can be themselves more and find comfort in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 08:09 AM
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Not always doggy. I find that conventionally unattractive dudes can do well when they learn to just smash their way through awkwardness with charisma and charm. You people have been saying this for decades, while sexlessness amongst men have been skyrocketing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:51 PM
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if you and ur wife both earn money divorce rape is not that much of a thing. Tell that to Jeff Bezos
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:21 PM
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It's just another one of societies way of shifting blame away from women and putting it on men for the shit hole that is modern dating. No matter what it's the mans fault that he's single even though he's generally social, respectful, fit and responsible because he had to happen to have been born ugly and short.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 01:38 AM
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It's not enough to simply be better than women. If that was the case most would be fine with 5'7, scrawny guys making $50,000 a year because statistically they are taller, stronger and richer than most women, however guys like this are perpetually single because in reality get ignored or ghosted by most women for a 6'2, jacked guy banking $100K+. Hypergamy demands women go for the best they possibly can, simply "better" is not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:59 PM
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Men and women generally respect sexually promiscuous males but are repulsed by sexually promiscuous females.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:52 PM
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You ain't heard bro, they have this incredible intuition. "Woman Know","Woman can tell". Yupp, everybody knows women all have a strong intuition for being able to detect a mans BS, that's why a record number of them are single moms, cause they're just so good at picking out decent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:29 AM
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RPers are generally extremely ugly and sexually unachieving, hence turning to TRP in the first place. No. The men "turning to the red pill" are former bluepiller's, you can't turn to something you are already in. They are men who have spent most of their lives indoctrinated by BP ideology. If they are ugly and sexually underachieving after spending decades submerged in BP "treat her right" nonsense it is the Bluepill that made them that way. BPers are the ones having all the sex. Nobody with an …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:07 PM
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Yeah I think I'll take the blue pill man over the red pill guy there's more long term potential there. Women will take the bluepilled guy for "long-term potential" once they're older, fatter and less attractive. A women looking for a sexual relationship at the peak of her physical value is not interested Billy Beta. Your wifey was their side-piece. If you want to enjoy the spoiled leftovers of RP'ers take the bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:46 PM
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Maybe it’s nice to feel wanted and to have someone who won’t leave you in 5 minutes to go hit someone else up and leave you feeling like a pile of trash. All relationships are based off wants and needs. The same woman complaining about desiring a partner to not treat them like a piece of trash will hastily reject a guy for being half an inch below their preferred height. Stop trying to act sincere, everybody wants what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:05 PM
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most people don't wind up with a partner they pictured in their head...and all these men that these women actually like are not 6 ft and rich etc This is what we call the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:15 PM
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If euthanasia is a way to end this horrific suffering, than I’m all for it. Any man that would intentionally waiver for such a cowardly death deserves it. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:25 AM
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Men are just as wary and cautious when approached by a male stranger. No if that was the case women would stop complaining about how men don't have to be as careful walking down the street at night, can't have it both ways. Grown men are not super cautious of other men unless that guy is outwardly sketchy (homeless, on drugs etc.) whereas women can feel threatened being near relatively normal looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:21 PM
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Imagine living in 2022 and using tinder as an example of well anything. Well the fact that most heterosexual couples meet through online dating, shows that Tinder in 2022 would actually be a pretty decent example of dating culture. The world has changed and so has dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:05 PM
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Why do women do this thing where they tuck their gut into their pants To women appearance is everything, they'd rather sell a lie than accept the truth. As long as it looks like she doesn't have a beer belly she's satisfied. Same reason why they paint their faces or wear fake hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:16 PM
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The only “issue” my dad has given me is not accepting underwhelming males, which is unfortunately the overwhelming majority of males :-) If an overwhelming majority of men are underwhelming and they still "dominate" women as a gender, then women must be in an even lower position.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:37 PM
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A lot of that percentage includes older women who have given up on men. Or liars lol. Women aren't known for being super honest when it comes to dating, just look at them describe their ideal partner and then look at the guys she's dated/hooked up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:21 PM
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As for out in the world, you can still draw conclusions about a man based on how he dresses, how he talks to others, what he's doing But men are assholes if they draw conclusions about chicks with 15+ bodies... To all the men out there never feel bad for keeping your standards, women definetely do not feel bad about having theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:19 PM
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Same reason why men don't like when their sidepiece starts talking about wanting a serous relationship. It poses a threat to them continuing to get what they want, in this case a women will no longer be getting that male validation and attention for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:04 AM
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Women are much much better at navigating complex social systems where everyone communicates like a manipulative, deceitful and passive aggressive fuckwit. So true, sometimes I see women friend groups communicate, gossip, spread rumors etc. and I just wonder how human beings could operate like that, everything just seems so disingenuous, fake and unhealthy. This is part of the reason I avoid hanging out with a lot of females outside of sex/dating, they can just concoct pointless drama out of thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:30 PM
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Women are happier single abd childless Happy people don't go on antidepressants.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:58 PM
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And yet we see women getting in relationships and married daily. Less women are getting married than ever before and there are more single women than ever before. I’m sure some women struggle but it’s far far less than men who are struggling because there’s just way more men who want casual sex than women who have it Women don't desire endless casual sex, they want a Long-term relationship or marriage with a man that they value. The number of men who most women find high value is too small to en…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:57 PM
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They can date who they want...get married and have kids or not, etc. What’s needed to change? Nope. Women can only sleep with who they want, but a man sleeping with you is literally the lowest denomination of how much they actually care about you. Men will readily sleep with women they secretly dislike or barely know. Just because a man spends a night inside you does not mean that he'll buy you gifts, propose to you or introduce you to his friends or family. Women often misinterpret sexual attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:58 PM
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Women have won If winning means being a high n-count, 30+ year old, single woman with no family, husband or children and regularly drinking or taking antidepressants just to continue working a career that will replace you the second you retire, then yeah I'd have to agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:11 PM
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Exactly, also never met a woman who was like “no you’re too short” If you know anything about women you'll know that they are rarely that blunt/honest with rejections. Also IRL approaching grows less and less common, a majority of heterosexual couples meet via Online Dating, and being below 6 feet can literally halve the number of women who even see your profile. So yeah it is an issue that's pretty bad to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:01 AM
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but the corollary is also true, so how is one worse than the other? Same way a male virgin is a loser but a female virgin is seen as respectable. Both standards are equalized in actuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:01 PM
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Hoe's like men other hoe's like
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:55 PM
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but a girl with a low body count can cheat all the same. Most girls will cheat/break up when faced with a higher value/more successful Long-term option or a decrease in their current partners status, high n-count or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:31 PM
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And I agree, high n men are also at a higher risk of cheating. High N count men also happen to on average be considered higher value in the SMP. Women will more likely be attracted to a man other women find desirable. Them cheating is not as bad as a woman cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:21 PM
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Most guys getting friendzoned are not full grown adults ma'am
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:13 PM
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That Daz Black video really accelerated the process, it got over 10 million views in a matter of days and basically accused Tate of being a sex-trafficking, woman beating felon.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:57 PM
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Tate was legitimately more searched than Trump, Biden and Putin (during a war!). I don't think they would have cancelled him as hard as they did if they thought he was going to just quickly fade into irrelevance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:54 PM
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The thing is that men don't want to get to know a woman and build a foundation for a relationship, they just want to fuck her. The myth that Niceguys have invested years getting to know a girl, listen to her daily, and share intimate moments together as a big elaborate scheme to get a quick fuck is just a lie girls tell themselves so they feel less guilty smashing emotionally unavailable men. Most Nice guys genuinely care about the girls they spent half their adolescence texting, talking and hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:51 PM
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But I think it's because men don't want to wait for sex. No it's because a good chunk of men wasted months or years of their life in the friendzone and have vowed to never do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:29 PM
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The Tate Brothers are simply the human personification of Western male frustration compiled from decades worth of lack of sex, feminization, and 3rd wave feminism. Someone like Tate would have never existed in the 50's where masculinity was common, however in an era where male testosterone and sperm count is nose-diving, 1/3 of young men are sexually inactive and male suicides are rising he is seen as a necessary evil, or even hero. When you've been told to stay silent for years, your first sent…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:26 PM
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All men want beautiful women. Successful men want beautiful, successful women. Successful men would rather have a beautiful broke women than a successful ugly one. Men do not prioritize a woman's sucess, you being rich does nothing for us. Women aren't spoiling men with their money. Almost everyone dates and marries within a similar level of education, income, etc. and even level of attractiveness as themselves… The most perpetually single women are the most educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:07 PM
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Successful men want beautiful women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 02:59 PM
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This is just not true. Yes it is. There's a whole phenomenon of men not wanting to date women who are higher earners than them. We don't pick partners by their wallets.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:28 PM
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Do you think men want uneducated, sloppy, ugly, fat, poor, etc. women?? As long as a man finds you physically attractive (which is a lot easier to do than a woman) they have no issues dating women who are less rich, less popular and of a lower status than them. A woman could work as a waitress and easily find many guys earning $100K or more willing to seriously date or wed her. A women would never accept this if the roles were reversed. No love is unconditional except maybe (most instances of) p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:46 PM
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Women love opportunistically, that's why there's hundreds of millions of lonely, single broke men who can't get a date but famous male millionaires can't keep girls off them. A woman only loves what you are (rich, tall, good-looking, high status etc.) not who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 10:56 AM
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but they can concievably meet at a party and hit it off I seriously doubt Henry Cavil is going out of his way to entertain talking, sleeping or dating Amy Schumer, so much so that I'd be wiling to bargain the smoking hot cashier has a better chance with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:57 AM
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Their issues aren't just about dating, but about a lack of social skills overall. If you talked to enough younger women in the dating market you'd see that men are not the gender who lack in proper social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:51 PM
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but also doesn't really do anything or anything that could actually help him. A guy messaging women online or approaching girls in public has already done more than like 90% of women in terms of dating. Women always talk about men not doing something right when they hardly do anything at all from a dating perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:27 PM
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Peronal Experince. Most RP guys can point to a specific moment or memory that "redpilled" them whether that be getting friendzoned for years, being cheated on or going through a rough divorce. On the flip side most BP guys never really had such a bad experince and by will of their charactertics, enviroment or luck never had any negative enough times to make them question things. Most had relatively normal dating lives, they were young, liked a girl had a sucessful LTR and mairrage, so from their…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:43 AM
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Life isn’t fair. It’s pure and utter chaos. No one asked to be here, no one chose their parents. What is hard to understand? People are not mad that life is unfair, they are mad that for decades that they were taught and told that life would be fair/reasonable, and that they spent years acting in a way that was not condusive to the current reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:22 PM
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Convince men/males to pursue moral virtues instead of worldly/materialistic incentives and the rest will naturally follow. Lmao the most moral, goody two shoes men are more likely to be virgins. I know a ton of studious, kind and moral men who are virgins or incels by definition, I never met rich, scummy drug dealer with problems getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:26 AM
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Everything in the world is easier if you're rich or high status ...Including attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:36 PM
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They will fuck Number 1 on the first night and put Number 2 in the LTR box to make him wait a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:34 PM
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A major reason men use porn is precisely because it's far easier to get sexual gratification from porn compared to actual sex. Any society without porn would be several times worse than a society with it. The minor inconvenience of men being less motivated from porn is nothing compared to the massive consequences of super horny men without any sexual output. Very few, if any studies will point to serious dangers of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:32 PM
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"Her personality doesn't matter." Men only claim this when they want sex out of a woman, if we're talking LTR personality matters to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:29 PM
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So how is opening up to a women about insecurities, sadness, mental problems supposed to work in real life? It’s delusional. It's funny that women speak like how men being more vulnerable will solve everything, since women are super open and mental illness/prescription medication is rampant among many female communities. Also even when men DO open up women just disregard like in this article and say "that sounds like a personal problem you fellas have to figure out on your own, PS we need you to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:26 PM
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Therapy and opening up is suppose to be to stabilise men for their well-being, not as a tactic for catching women. It also costs a lot of money and isn't a fix all problem. You can't just "therapy" your way out of major, nationwide shifts in demographic behavior, it needs to be addressed further but unlike other social issues when it involves primarily men it's up to the individual to solve it as oppose to a societal effort. Ironically, this only reaffirms why men feel lonely in the first place,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:18 PM
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Its usually if they are fun to be around and have a good sense of humor. A lot easier to do when you're high status or rich, at least from a woman's perspective in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:13 PM
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Yes unattractive guys can become hot in our eyes if we get to know them and develop feelings You mean if they are high status or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:22 AM
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I don’t think there’s a ton of truth to it on some large scale No, there definitely is. Even before I ever heard of RP/BP it was not uncommon to see single moms settle/date men who were typically more "homey", who looked night and day from their baby daddy. Women will put men into ONS and LTR categories, let's be real here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:21 AM
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boys my age who are interested in LTR are scarce More men are realizing that marriage is for a woman's benefit, and it's not really worth priotizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 12:53 AM
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Not true a lot of the famous TikTok guys who have millions of female fans paint their nails. I think the fact that they're rich, famous TikTokers has more to do with that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:48 AM
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The thing is women are expected to have long painted nails or at least well maintained manicured nails while men just have to cut theirs at least. A straight man with long pointy, painted or well maintained nails will still be a turn off to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:28 AM
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I would agree, but it’s personal preference. I can’t force anyone, no more can they force me to like it. Cool so let's stop trying to pressure men to like hairy armpits, it's just our personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 04:02 AM
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Long nails are unhygienic as well as they provide a harborage point for bacteria. Alright in that case we should discourage everybody regardless of gender from growing long nails. Time to trim em ladies!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:41 AM
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My boyfriend has long nails and I dont give a fuck. What's your argument lol?? "Because I cannot relate in my biased personal experience your argument is invalid."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:39 AM
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The only reason its seen as gross is societal conditioning, there is nothing unhygienic about hair. Yet another beauty standard put on women. You can say the same thing about men and long nails, but you can bet your ass if a guy with long ass nails approached most women they would be turned off, disgusted or tell their friends about it. Seeing as given the exact opposite situation women would behave in such a way men should not hesitate to say they do not want hairy women. Also guys who think ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:27 AM
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Do you not realize that Dominican Stacie’s don’t want some average foreigner unless they are poor women as well? Do you not realize that American middle class is considered rich to most Dominican women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:43 PM
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So if this is the case, just spend money on poor us women, they are right down the street. Poor US women have higher standards than Dominican Stacy's, all while doing less. Any man with sense would rather date a hot Dominican who can make me a meal and clean as opposed to some, broke chick working at retail who is unwilling to cook and think she deserves to be spoiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:26 PM
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Women stop giving men dating advice. Just stop 😂😂😂 They literally tell men to do the EXACT opposite, the advice almost seems malicious. I've never seen a group more unaware of themselves and what they like 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:20 PM
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It feels different being a man, the world and women SEE you different and treat you different being a man, and have different expectations of men. Absolutely. I've seen overweight, short, flabby and poorly dressed butch lesbians walk around with attractive, cute girls hanging on their arms. If they had to change genders tomorrow these same girls would not looks at them twice. As a man they will add a surcharge more of standards (be at least 6'0, be confident, have money) as a women they will be …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:17 PM
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If you go to say , Dominican Republic for example, there are rich chads there, they have picked the most beautiful and marriageable women there. Average salary in the DR is around $7,000 USD any upper middle class American would be considered rich there, which is in part why they visit in the first place. Also when you add in the chance of free citizenship a lot of top Dominican women would be on board. By the time a women in the Dominican Republic is willing to date an average foreigner, especi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:12 PM
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I've seen woman at best augh off and at worst become borderline offended over interacting with confident and ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:31 AM
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A fat zoomer my age has a gf too Oh wow, wrap this sub up folks, debates over!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:46 AM
3

Natural booty > gym booty Gym booty >>> No booty at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:18 PM
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I know plenty of nerdy guys that fuck left right and center. ...I don't... Sometimes I wonder where you folks live but the only guys I know that Fuck left, right and center look like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:18 PM
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Looksmax and start approaching the men you like Literally all they have to do. Any ugly girl could go into a gym, squat and get a nice body/butt. Add make-up to this and problem solved. I don't know how women can complain about being undesirable when men literally have tot Looks ax plus so much more (work on social skills, earn good money, be popular) to be desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:15 PM
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Sex sells. Corporations realized there was a lot of money to be made off of lonely, desperate and horny men. The male sex drive is one of the strongest innate biological urges in nature. Men will literally put their lives on the line and die in the pursuit of sex. Selling men the fantasy that they are just few hundred dollars away from sexual satisfaction if very profitable. Online Dating Apps, Cam girls, IG models, Shaving Creams, Clothing, Cologne even Spray on deodorant companies all rake in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:07 PM
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I disagree. We live in a society. None of us have financial freedom. We have to pay taxes. I see it the same as that. No, you don't have to pay taxes, you have the freedom to live alone away from society. What you cannot do is pay no taxes while still expecting benefits provided from them (voting, healthcare, or police service). That is the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:56 PM
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Also another brilliant argument for more punishment for men abandoning their offspring. Men are not abandoning shit. Women have had complete reproductive control so they must take complete reproductive responsibility. That is basic accountability. As a man who in most Western countries has absolutely 0 say in this, I should not be forced to cough up for someone else's choice. Not my problem. Men should have complete control to give up all financial responsibly and the fact that we do not, is tox…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:40 PM
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Who knew "I don't need no man", "Independent woman", "She can do it all on her own" culture would yield negative social consequences on society. It's almost like eroding one of the most important social, financial and familial bonds for the sake of having fun and getting dicked down in your 20's wasn't that great of an idea. The funniest part is that the same picky women in all of their standards of and self-proclaimed knowledge in dating, astrology, red-flags and sex could not foresee that deal…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:30 PM
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everyone can have whatever preferences and standards they want, regardless of age. Have whatever standards your heart desires, just do no bother anyone's ears with your complaints if you die alone. And don't blame anyone either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:01 PM
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she was attractive and interesting enough for you. Now suddenly it’s entitlement? She's 40 something. A decade plus past post wall. She might be interesting and attractive enough to pursue for some sexual relations but absolutely out of question for a long term partner. Any woman that's still single in her 40's is single for a reason. She is dancing on dying alone territory, that is not the age to be running around entitled like some hot 21 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:59 PM
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Than just leave us the fuck alone but this entire sub is just whining about why women don’t like you. If you don’t like us, don’t engage with us. At this point most men will still interact for sex. If women wanted men to leave them alone they would stop going to bars dressed half naked butt they love male attention and validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:49 PM
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“In that year, 45-year-old married men had an average income of 85.2 thousand U.S. dollars, compared to 45-year-old unmarried men, who had an average income of 49.8 thousand U.S. dollars Breaking News: Women are more willing to marry guys with money
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:50 PM
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Most men don’t have enough assets to talk like that. The ones that women want do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:16 PM
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It’s not 50% anymore. It’s just under 40% Great odds to risk everything you've ever worked for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:05 PM
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she said serious relationships not marriage. Being in a truly serious relationship nowadays implies inevitable marriage in the future. Many modern women feel played if the men they are in serious relationships with are ducking proposals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:53 PM
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not something feminism pushes for. Feminism is female superirorgtiy hiding under the guise of equality. They have never given a shit about men and wonder why guys don't want to support whatever bullshit they're pushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:50 PM
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This is how they think. They view men as inherently evil and for us to serve them while they indulge and watch. Especially younger women on social media. Spend 10 mutes on TikTok (which is huge among Gen Z) and you'll see tons of videos of women shitting on men. Hashtagging "IHateallmen", complaining about how men are toxically masculine for wanting to go 50/50, making broad generalizations on males all while still expecting men to do everything for them. Honestly with this new generation of wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:47 PM
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Idk why men here are so against serious relationships with women. Divorces settlements, monthly alimony payments, child custody battles, the fact that women initiate over 70% of divorces and 50% of marriages end in separation etc. You get very little reward for massive, life altering risks. Have you seen the shit women in love do for men? Modern women? Fuck all. Most view cooking or cleaning for a man an offensive, outdated act but still expect men to upkeep our traditions and approach first, pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:14 PM
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they're a gift to women are delusional as fuck I mean if anyone is the gift it's the partner who is on average objectively taller, stronger, richer and more willing to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:24 AM
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I think it has to do with waiting to have children for women, and the rate of inflation causing many to feel as though they simply can't afford a child. This has never stopped women from willingly becoming single mothers and birthing litters of fatherless children... that they expect decent men to raise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:22 AM
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Zoomers and millennials tend to prefer to pay for themselves or split the bill on dates, particularly first dates This is complete BS Gen Z and Millennial women are literally spreading TikTok videos about how they will never meet with a man again if he suggests they split. They do not want equality, they want control.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:13 AM
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hot women won't talk to ugly guys nor will they try to keep the conversation going With a romantic pursuit in mind. Women will keep tons of guys they aren't attracted to in the friendzone for attention and validation, when you express that you are interested in her as a partner, that is when the leaving begins.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:31 PM
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Its funny you said that bc I am an ugly fat guy and I literally talked to a 10/10 gorgeous latina last night and let her do most of the talking, and she kept the conversation going all on her own, so youre wrong. Cool, good job, now let me know when you actually smash her lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:53 PM
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does anyone here consider it worth it for some guy who's about to go into university, if he originally had a strong interest in a "smart" STEM subject to begin with, to throw that all away for the rest of his life and pursue a "dumber" field that he has no interest in JUST so he could have more success in sex? No one's saying that. Even if a guy who was in Honours physics switched to an easier major it wouldn't be like he would all of a sudden, overnight be good with women. He is the constant he…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:36 PM
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Bro IDK if you talk to women, but I always let them do most of the talking. This is like the most surface level, wanna be alpha, generic RP'er advice, and I'm saying that as a more RP guy. This only works if you are significantly high-status or good looking and the girl is already attracted to you. If you're Joe Schmo and think any decent looking chick will carry the convo for you while you chill back and kick your feet up, you are in for a surprise. She will either stop talking, pull out her ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:25 PM
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"Then you haven't met a woman like me" - Every woman on earth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:17 PM
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Well, the comment I replied to was about spending time. You can't spend effort, as it doesn't take anything put of some limited supply of effort. Yes you definitely can spend effort, otherwise everyone would be able to work 16 hours a day 7 days a week no issue. If I use my effort to run a marathon I will likely not have the energy left to complete an 12 page essay right after. Effort is not unlimited.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:34 PM
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Always served me well. You have to outsmart your opponent to get what you want. It’s harder to do when you’re dumb. Dating like most human interactions is not a logical endeavor, it's emotional. You can't date a girl thinking I'll do x and say x and I will get said outcome. Also intelligent men tend to overthink and be in there heads, which is good for solving math equations but bad when approaching a chick. Being "dumber" is actually somewhat of an advantage because you are more care-free and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:50 PM
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Yup I'm pretty sure multiple studies show that the higher a mans IQ the higher the likelihood he will lose his virginity later in life. I mean walk into any engineering or physics class and you'll see a bunch of guys who barely get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:46 PM
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If you're taking five minutes to talk to her, she's taking five minutes to talk to you (or for you to talk at her). That's how that works. The time spent is the same. The average Western woman contributes as much as the average man on balance Time is one factor of a conversation. I guarantee in most heterosexual courting situations it is the men doing a majority of the approaches, asking a majority of questions, saying the most jokes/compliments. Men put in more effort into conversation in the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:43 PM
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How do men usually pay with time in a way that women aren't reciprocating with equal amounts of time? Spending time with someone is meant to be enjoyable, not a payment. If you've spent even 5 minutes approaching your average Western women you will know that there is no reciprocation going on. They contribute very little to the social dialogue, text game, planning/paying for dates, approching etc. and are proud of it. They believe they are to be pursued and men should do the pursuing and this pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:21 PM
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Never thought I would hear Addison Rae mentioned here Tiktok is an absolute cesspool for irrational, mind-numbingly retarded feminism. Not surprised that some women who are familiar with tiktokers are lurking this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 05:17 AM
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But I also make him pay. How thoughtful of you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:16 PM
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The problem is that men are still putting themselves on these dating apps, or else women would simply adapt to find better men. It's a problem of our own creation. Most men do not use dating apps, so I'm not sure what you are talking about. And the problem isn't that simple even if a small minority of men are on the apps it will still screw most guys over as women will still get their validation. Furthermore it's not a "Male creation", it is a corporate one involving both genders. Men didn't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:14 PM
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If she looks like the girl in the skin mag, she is wearing that on purpose. You’re welcome. You'd be surprised, I've seen everything from overweight feminists, to skinny bookworms have the same street walker "6 feet and up" mentality. This state of mind is not just limited to a few women anymore, it's widespread and often encouraged in female circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:43 PM
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Well, as a guy who is precisely two inches below 5'10", I think this isn't as much of a problem in person as it is on dating apps. Dating apps are by far the most common way heterosexual couples meet even if it was only a problem on dating apps (which it isn't) it is still a very significant issue nonetheless. What they dislike are these traits shown in the absence of the other ones that they also like: confidence, assertiveness, strength (physical or moral/mental), intelligence, self-sufficienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:04 PM
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And that's the whole point: a lot of men don't do them. Yes because we learned a while ago that being very decent, polite or "nice" to women gets you nowhere. The one's that do usually get played or finessed blind, speaking of which most women consider it an insult to lift their finger every now and them to make their partner a sandwich, they shouldn't talk of bars. Most women want men to accept all their traditional cons (body hair, obesity, stretch marks, cellulite, love handles) but the secon…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:11 PM
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Women are looking for a good man not the best man Even women don't truly believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:49 PM
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but at the same time don't want a woman who settled for them. It's pretty contradictory. but at the same time don't want a woman who settled for them...after years of getting passed around by Chads, only after realizing near her 30's that they will not wed her
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:48 PM
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they just don’t go for those guys and get a cat instead and then you lot here complaining your lonely. In comparison to the crazy cat ladies? What are you even saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:45 PM
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They don’t want women to have standards but they expect their standards to be met. It's simple, men just expect women to have standards that they themselves abide by but because women are hypergamous by nature they do not. They will be out of shape/overweight expecting fit and tall men, they will be making average money expecting a guy making $100K, they'll have the personality of a piece of cardboard but expect a social Casanova. They want a top 20% man, when they're not even a top 50% woman. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:31 AM
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Most successful/educated dudes are taken off the market pretty early. You cited information concerning doctors from people that were likely several decades older than most Millennials or Gen Z. They entered a dating market with little online presence and had to rely more on in person contact to look for a partner so it makes sense that you would wed someone you worked 60-80 hours a week with. The doctors that were getting married are not the young people of today and were folks who live in a mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:21 PM
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everyone sucks! "I'm the exception!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:02 PM
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Yet they want a girl who is hot and kinky, but one who hasn't had much sex. You can be hot and kinky with a few guys who you were in LTR with, as opposed to a football team
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:56 PM
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This is just alien to me, so I'll agree to disagree. Hey man it's your girl, do you, I just can't comprehend or respect it but if you want to make a high n-count chick the love of your life then by all means, there's somebody out there for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:31 PM
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Next they'll be saying "men who are secure, confident and truly masculine would allow other men to sleep with their wives and girlfriends and not be threatened because they know she'll still come back to them" lol. I do not care what any man who thinks like this has to say about masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:27 PM
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Because the professional and educated men in my social sphere care quite a lot about the education and career choices of their partners. Of course they do, what do you expect them to say in a room full of other educated women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:45 PM
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It's not a big deal. As long as she's enthusiastic when she's in my arms, her undoubtedly promiscuous past doesn't really matter. I don't know how some men can be comfortable being in a long term relationship and laying next to a woman dozens of men have been inside. I understand men are feminized now but there comes a time where you have to have some basic respect for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:22 PM
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This is a class thing because there are plenty of men who have standards for work, education I have never met a man who genuinely cares about a woman's career or educational attainment. Sure it's cool if she's educated and wealthy but it is certainly not a standard. The richest, highest valued men will happily wed women who earn a fraction of their salary, you cannot say the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:15 PM
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Women search security and commitment in relationships. Yeah when they are older, less attractive and post-wall. The most attractive and younger college aged girls are looking for fun and excitement. How many women in their 30's are talking about "Hot girl Summer" vs women in their 20's? TRP works to get sex from mentally unstable women It works on any women stable or unstable. Even then just from the prescription drug use a lot of women are already mentally unstable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:12 AM
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The top 2% of man are valued above all, The problem is they think all men are automatically born with keys to the top 2% clubhouse. The average men is 5'9, out of shape and making $30K-$50K a year. They are absolutely not valued as much as the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:50 AM
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I can’t even tell if this is real. How many women have you actually met? Enough. Also look at any form of media geared towards women and tell me it's not about what was mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:46 AM
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Men that use TRP tactics on me will end up broken up with. If they actually know what they're doing you wouldn't know anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:37 AM
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why would you want to date a mindless bimbo you cant have a conversation with? For the same reason women will date toxic, fuckboys en masse, looks. Also it is hard to come across women who are not like this in this day and age. And if you think all women are like this maybe you dont like women? The fact that I'm still willing to put up with women despite this proves how straight I am. Any gay or bi men with my views would not bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:30 AM
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The women you've described is probably a small subgroup. Yeah just a majority of women between the ages of 18-25 haha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:22 PM
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Any decently sized college or university campus in America
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:44 PM
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Unless one day you catch feelings for one of them. Also a lot women are terrible conversationalists (no offence) as their social value is primarily determined by their looks. They're only passionate about useless, empty distractions like social media, celebrity news, astrology or cheap gossip. Most guys can only endure such conversations in the pursuit of sex or a relationship, not friendship. Men are at their best when they surround themselves with other likeminded ambitious men, look at any su…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:05 PM
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Or maybe we marry for love now 🤷🏼‍♀️ "So long as he's at least 6'0, rich, handsome, fit, confident etc. then we can marry for love"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:39 PM
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Incorrect. Men want attractive confident women & many women in their 30s are that lol. They're also way less fertile, fatter, uglier, wrinklier, more jaded, more bitter, more unpleasant and less feminine. Also men are not women, we don't look to our wives and girlfriends for confidence we look for femininity and attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:37 PM
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A lot of young women are not treated as marriage material by men until they're in their 30s...that's when men tend to respect them more & take them more seriously Read again. I said by marriage material for HVM. Woman can get marriage material treatment from Billy Beta at 18 before Prom but they keep him in tucked in the friend zone. They only consider this treatment around 30 after asking "where are all the good men at", after years of getting ran through by toxic bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:10 PM
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Dating for men is fun if you arent ugly and actually have friends and a social life "Laughs in 5'6"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:31 PM
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holy moly the black pill probably rings true for that dude. He's in a really bad situation but he still has hope of being average. But dude needs to get swole ASAP (I'm talking creatine, supplements even juice if time is of the essence), visit a dermatologist/try top tier skin products, and have a stellar, up to date wardrobe. I've seen relatively facially challenged black dudes who were jacked and very fashionable pull plenty of decent to hot chicks. He needs to double down on the dreadhead BBC…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:28 PM
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And they learn the lessons from that pain and learn to choose better. Which often leads to choosing less attractive guys eventually. AKA they turn 30, hit the wall and finally realize that they are not marriage material for high value men then use Billy Beta whom they've been ignoring for a decade as a safety net. If women remained as attractive as they were in their 20's they would disregard the Nice Guy for a much longer time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:18 PM
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We are at the gym to work out, not to get hit on. Feel free to look but don’t stare. Even staring puts you at risk of going viral on Tiktok and getting fired now Just work out and go home. That’s what us women do. That's what you can do because women almost always take 0 initiative in any romatic approach. If men courted like women did the human race would be extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:23 AM
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You want to have a real, substantive relationship with someone who views you as more than a piece of meme-shaped meat, then you've got to spit up the pill Women will stopped being seen as meat when they stop seeing men as wallets or social ladders.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:15 AM
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It's garnering traction amongst more left wing, feminist, LGBTQ spheres as it appeals to their current focus with regards to breaking down gender traditional gender norm. It was also quite popular among signicant Gen Z pop culture icons like Billie Eilish, BTS, Millie Bobbie Brown (or 11 rather), Harry Styles, James Charles etc. To no suprise Gen Z which grew up and are still influenced by said icons are the group most likely to adopt a more androgenyous fashion sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:09 AM
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IRL, most women want their men ugly . Maybe for husband material when they're approaching or already in their 30's and have been used up, but while they're still young and looking for a hookup 100% your looks can make or break you. Off height alone a lot of guys have a decent reason to harp.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:23 PM
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How is listening to a man complain about how he can't get sex going to stop men from using me for sex? How is listening to a woman complain about not finding any good men going to stop women from using me for free dinners, validation, money and attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:38 AM
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the problem occurs when men get angry with women and expect us to do something about their issues. Kind of like how women blame men and expect us to encourage other guys to change literally any issue under the sun from body dysmorphia to manspreading.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:57 AM
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Women have the means to reproduce regardless of if the guy stays with them or not or romances them Women have the means to become a single mother for guys out of their league's for 18 years lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:27 AM
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They are also happier with cats and indoor plants too. Means nothing Probably cause half of them are on antidepressants or psychiatric medication, remember that the next time single, childless 30-40 year old women tell you how happy they are with their life. They took taking the Blue Pill to a whole different level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:17 AM
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How do you factor in men’s general desire for harems then? Easy, they want to sleep with a bunch of women, they don't actually care about whether these women actually desired them though. Men will sleep with women they hate and don't give a shit about, men only value a womans desire if it leads to sex. If a bunch of women desired a man (let's say as husband material) but did not see him as a sexually viable option he would likely stop communicating with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:48 PM
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Meh I feel like it's a mischaracterization to say RP is actively discouraging men from being kind. Being overly kind to women is your first step in getting played for your time, money or energy. Once she realizes you are easy to take advantage of, she will either toss you in the frienzone for free attention, use you as a meal ticket or convince you to buy her and her friends drink. Men can be respectful or show basic manners but kindness (especially not coupled with attractiveness) gets you lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:33 PM
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more simps for me! Dang and miss out on wasting my time and money becoming a sexless, simp for a basic average chick who adds nothing of value?? It'll be tough but I think I'll pull through..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:25 PM
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Oh absolutely look at any successful actor, artist, businessman, athlete, politician, mogul etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:44 AM
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Well polygamy involves multiple mairrages, so in modern times most men only want one spouse but half of the reason men want to become HVM is to have access to a lot of women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:31 AM
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Yes based of several factors. For one off of basic sexual dimorphism, men are significantly larger than women which signifies affinity towards polygamy. Second we have twice as many female ancestrs than males, showing that a smaller percentage of men were able to breed with a larger percent of women. Lastly polygamy had been widely accepted in human history for hundreds of years. Kings and Emporers from Europe to Japan would often have brothels or harems consisting of hundreds women for their pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:20 AM
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the famous pornstars with millions of followers are openly escorting No pornography is still prostitution, it's legality is due to the fact that it is considered acting and artistic expression protected within the constitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:02 AM
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Escorts are not a crime even sex is not, you pay for their time, sex is not a guarantee If that was the case the Federal Government would've never shut down backpage
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:01 PM
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They are actually. You think incels don't know about prostitution? Prostitution in the United States (where inceldom is at it's worst) is a crime in almost every state and can result in serious jail time. Furthermore most escorts are unregulated, drugged out and less attractive while carrying a ton of risks from STD's to unreported robberies. The ones that don't are typically high-end and too expensive for most younger, broker guys. If the US had escort services similar to that of Amsterdam, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:36 PM
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I'm with you on that one
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:29 PM
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I don't know. I've had success with women who were into "interesting, not unattractive nerds" after high school, so I'd have to say that in my case, this was not true. You are an anamoly. For most men being an unattractive nerd is literally a pipeline to inceldom. You might be a little older, I mean even now most average interesting guys have significant trouble with women as dating is becoming a more online medium where attractiveness is a prerequisite needed for any chance of success. You can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:26 PM
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This isnt really true, men can basically drastically increase their sex options if theyre willing to pay $200, $300, $500 or more for a high class escort who looks hotter than most women on tje street. In the United States (where simp culture and dating dynamics are at it's worse) sex with an escort is illegal in almost every state and getting caught with one may result in serious jail time. Due in part to this risks the US has some of the most expensive escort prices in the world and most of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:18 PM
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If the moronic sex could spend less energy shitting on women for sex and invested more energy in being good lovers that are safe to "try out", your question would have more validity. Understand the same feelings that repel you from engaging in sex with a man too soon are identifical to the discomfort men feel for the courting process (dates, gifts, attention etc.). Just like you don't want to put out for unpleasurable sex with a man you barely know and who may ghost you, men do not want to waste…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:07 PM
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Now explain why young women are jumping on chad's dick in their youth KNOWING that it won't result in a proposall/ring/wedding. That's on women. The same reason desperate young men wll take a chick who's out of their league on nice dinner dates, listen to their problems endlessly or stay in the friendzone for the tail end of a decade KNOWING that she has not given them a lick of sex. When we encoutner someone rare enough we will risk losing from time to time, simply for the slim chance that we m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:56 PM
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Not everyone is concerned with being married, or even getting dates. Most humans would like to get married and view it as something of relevance in their life. It seems like men are the ones more desperate for intimacy. Men are desperate for sex, at most you could say sexual intimacy. Take sex out of it and they could not care less. Men are not the gender aking for more dates, deep conversations, gifts, lit candles and mystery. Incels are not classified on a basis of lack of romance, they are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:12 PM
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Here’s an idea, we can do all those things with the revenue from a tax on alcohol and keep the mega brothels closed. Good luck getting multibillion dollar alchohol companies plus millions of consumers/producers on board with a tax that will benefit them in no way and result in the loss of billions of dollars in potential purchases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:27 PM
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You sound completely naive, there are mega brothels in Europe that operate in full face of the government that still rape, assault and traffic women. Add a heavy tax onto escort services that will go towards providing welfare, mental health services, housing and justice to any women that may be exploited then. Legalisation is not the silver bullet you think it is. I’m suggesting legalising it for women who sell sex so they can go to the authorities for help and operate independently. Legalizatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:03 PM
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Look, well ALL die alone. Big difference between dying alone a couple years after your spouse of half a century and dying alone after 4 decades of being perpetually single despite sincere efforts. Ultimately the real question asked to women is " what's so bad about quick and easy sex with someone who is excited to do that with you? What's so inherently wrong about that? To understand this you have to understand that women are wired in completely different and in almost opposite ways than men. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:50 PM
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The thing is these ego inflating men only serve to present women wth the facade that they are intimately desired by men, in reality the vast majority of these men are looking for some quick and easy sex. What good is all that attention if it doesn't result in a proposal, ring or wedding and in the end you just end up dying alone anyway? Endless social media validation is just the female equivalent to a crippling male porn addiction . On paper it sounds amazing and in the beginning it feels great…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:54 PM
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I personally think brothels and pimps should be illegal. They already are. They still do it anyway kind of like drug dealers, they just do it in hiding, away from goverment regulation where they are the ones in control. there are many places where it’s only illegal to purchase sex not sell it, this is also a better system This solves nothing, so long as there is no business or legal entity overlooking the act and ensuring it aligns with current health or safety regulations the sexworkers will st…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:31 PM
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you’re an adult and responsible for your own actions. Thank you for both agreeing and proving my points regarding consenting adults choosing to engage in prostitution. Legalising prostitution actually increases human trafficking because then that area becomes a hot spot for sex tourism I'm sure the American back alley, STD ridden, pimped out and abused prositutes are doing much better off. I wonder what the average deathrate is for prostitutes in European countries? Cause in the US 204 out of ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:12 PM
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I hope there’s more restrictions on prostitution considering how most men treat prostitutes. Prostitutes are actually treated better in markets where it is legal and regulated, like the war on drugs. Government regulation would ensure less violence, kidnappings, child exploitation and abuse but women don't like the idea that they'll get way less validation as they will no longer control men through sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:29 PM
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It actually makes sense for guys who get a lot of women to say "Just be confident bro!" or "Just be yourself". To guys like them who are goodlooking, tall or high status that is literally all they had to be to get the job done. It's kind of like asking a trackstar how to win races, he'll probably just tell you to run faster, because for him that all that was needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:05 PM
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If the name for sexless men who post blatantly stupid shit online is incels, What’s the equivalent for sexless woman who can’t stop obsessively posting on Reddit about them? FDS users. Where incels vent due to a lack of sex during their teenaged and young adult years, FDS women vent about their lack of partnership as they enter their 30's and 40's. Oh how the tables have turned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:58 AM
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You know what else predators do? Defend their own Good thing sex with legally consenting adults is not predatory
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:21 AM
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They’re not old enough to drink? In almost every first-world developed nation, yes. And even if they weren't by your logic they will be by 21. Their not old enough to realise if their being taken advantage of, brains are still developing until their about 25 that’s why 18-24 is still classed as “young person” Like I said if their brains are not "fully developed" enough to know that they are being taken advantage of, why then do student loan offices or army recruiters exist? Both of which have fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:58 AM
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When there is a big age gap between 2 people , particularly when one person is barely an adult There is no such thing as"barely an adult", you are either an adult or you are not. The age of consent in the U.S. is 18, which is already several years older than most first world countries. At this age you can operate a motor vehicle, take out expensive student loans, buy a house, purchase a firearm and enlist/die in war. If they are old enough to accept these responsibilities then they are old enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:35 AM
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You mean shaming dirty old men that go after little girls? two consenting adults for partaking in an act that is already fundamentally transactional? FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:19 AM
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Representatives elected primarily by women, [most men actually favour legalizing abortion](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/FwO9N2M0vjtQ2FWSbiq4s82rgLo=/0x0:972x540/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:972x540):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6174543/Screen%20Shot%202016-03-10%20at%204.01.51%20PM.png) especially in comparison to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:59 AM
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“Have sex with men or we’ll become violent terrorists and force you to have sex with men” No one's forcing average women to engage in sex with men, if they would prefer to die alone due to their deluded standards that is 100% their right. But they dare not tell men that they cannot go to brothels or escorts with other consenting adults legally and just expect to be guys to be good boys and die jerking off. Thats where the problems arise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:49 AM
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And when feminism spreads to eastern countries and teaches women to have unrealistic standards just like in the west, then all hope for men who are not in the top precentage of attractiveness (sexual, economical, social) is lost. I would disagree, I genuinely do not think that most men will just go decades (and potentially centuries) expecting to live there lives with 0 chance of sex and just take it. I feel that men naturally get more frustrated and discontent when sexual desires are not met, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:48 AM
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If they were born in the 70's and 80's they would be around 40-50 years of age. Unless the guys here are newborns, the 40's or 50's would be more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:19 AM
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Probably because you're at a golf club
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:08 AM
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Yet I should never accept a poor or unambitious woman and the other guy should never accept a promiscuous woman, if those are the non negotiable That's the thing though. Let's say a woman with very high standards comes across a man that meets all of them except he is an inch shorter than what she preferred. By all accounts she would be better off ignoring such an arbitrary standard and dating an otherwise great guy but using your logic she should dismiss him completely and potentially spend the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:06 AM
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This isn’t red pill. This is inoffensive advice you could get from your grandma. Let's be real, no grandma has ever given this advice to their grandson's. I guarantee you 90% of their advice is about being nice, never cursing, opening doors and buying flowers, mixed with a personal anecdote about how your grandfather creepily wrote her a dozen poems before she agreed to a date. No Grandmother tells their grandson "Just hit gym and be confident bro". This is 100% RP advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:08 AM
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It’s more the fear of sexual harassment and/or rape. If that was the case they would dress way more moderately. Instead women of today literally wear the most provocative and revealing clothing anywhere on earth. It is not uncommon to see women wearing tank tops where their nipples are in clear view, leggings that are purposely designed to accentuate their ass's, tights that outline their freakin cameltoe and expect men not to glance are you kidding me?? If a man wore leggings worth his dick bul…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:57 PM
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then somewjere in their 20's or 30's want to start the process while having no experience, no real social links, no venues where casual conversations happen organically, and so on. This is exactly why Cold Approach should be socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:35 AM
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Personally, I'm in the camp of "women always have options" so it's still "because when she does meet that person" for me. Women have a lot of men willing to sleep with them, however this is one of the lowest forms of interest a man can display towards a women. Men will sleep with anything even women they don't like. The actual amout of men that would be willing to settle down, propose and marry women is much, much thinner. Women have men that want to rent them for a night, not buy, sign and take…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:20 PM
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Because when IF she does meet that person who meets her standards, he will be genuinely appreciated, desired, wanted - call it whatever you want. He will be treated in a way he deserves to be. Once again that is a VERY big IF. I would say that if a woman is not in the top 20% of her gender (in terms of beauty, looks, femininity etc.) she should not epect to get a top 20% guy, regardless of her standards. The higher your standards the less likely you are to come accross someone that will meet the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:54 PM
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You are misinterepreting the phrase. By good men women typically mean HVM. These are males who encompass certain attributes (Over 6 feet tall, $100,000 + a year, handsome etc.). These men in comparison to the other males in their gender are typically scarcer (Ex Only 14.5% of all men are six feet, let alone earn $100,000 and are handsome). If were being generous let's say 20% of all men fit the titlle of HVM, because they are intrinsically limited, at most only 20% of women can hope to settle wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:10 AM
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But I've also seen a couple that aren't abusive in any way where someone just sees some value in their partner that nobody does. SSSniperWolf and her boyfriend are the only couple that remotely fits this and defies all reason to me personally. No theory I could forge in the depths on my mind can logically explain how these two humans decided to date one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:20 AM
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Why is the good guy in this scenario still single after all of this time? They are single because in there youth all the women they wanted were too preoccupied taking turns with Chads. In addition to this guys are at their least valuable the younger they are but by 30 most have a career, steady income, a place and a car AKA things women value. Meanwhile on the female spectrum by 30 the things men value (youth, fertlty and beauty) is rapidly decreasing. As the power dynamics change, the Chadless …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:15 AM
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Not suprised you didn't understand it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:27 PM
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So what is the looks threshold? Simple, there is a minimum threshold you must reach for a woman to consider a sexual or romantic relationship with you. It is absolutely true, if you are very ugly many women will literally not conversate with you in person or online, regardless of your personality because you are beneath their threshold. It's their physical standard. A man must be at least an 8? What if he is 7.99? Is he shit out of luck? Like everything it differs for each women. Generally thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:08 PM
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Then how is it that a large majority of men end up in relationships? Because a lot of women inevitably hit the wall, accept reality and settle. This is a very common trope you'll see in older couples, specifically ones with a Beta Provider or Step Dad. Typically the woman they date 5-10 years ago would have never given them a chance in her prime, since she was too busy having fun hooking up with Chads. As she ages, gains weight, gets more wrinkles, has kids or loses time on her biological clock,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:58 PM
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People are a sum of their genetic capabilities and their surrounding environments. As boys we are naturally more TRP leaning, showing signs of boldness, competitiveness and confidence. I mean even in terms of dating it is pretty common for boys to treat their female crushes rudely. However many men in the West become disillusioned and discouraged from this behavior by Gynocentric, feminized female dominated households and schooling systems and are made to adhere to BP ideology. Natural male beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:48 AM
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You know nothing about women. I know enough to know the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:28 AM
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Garbage men make decent money, electricians, plumbers, and HVAC specialists make bank. If you think for a second that the average woman would not lose some level of attraction to you after telling her that you are employed as garbage man or plumber, I don't know what women you interact with regularly. Women will completely dismiss men over something as superficial or vain as height, beard length or social media presence, if you think that they will suddenly be above judging you from employment I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:00 PM
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A lot of RP is about theorizing and understanding the latest dating trends. They don't care that women are dying alone, they can just use that information to avoid the next wave of Single mothers looking for a Bailout from Billy Beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:32 PM
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Average women especially working class ones used to tolerate a lot of drinking, disrespect and casual abuse from average men They still tolerate all of this and more from High Value men today, the only difference is now on top of all of that they are left to feed, clothe and raise the fatherless children of whichever Chad last ejaculated in them alone. What else has changed is men were more openly sexist and racist in the 60s/70s/80s. So were women...and children... and society in general Averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:26 PM
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Then why women are far more likely to seek divorce The court system favors women heavily with regards to alimony, settlements and child custody so much so that there is a phenomenon of women marrying men strictly for the purpose of divorce payouts. middle aged men are over represented in every dating app? Men of any age will be over represented in every dating app because they are the gender with more testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:16 PM
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The available high value guys are still available because they don't want to settle down. Women chase them, as the best options on the market, but they just want to fuck. RP'ers predicted this years ago. When a majority of women are only willing to date a minority of men, then the best case scenario will be most females dying alone. I think the Rise of FDS, Kevin Samuels and Tiktok feminists is just a symptom of women coming to terms that after all these years of getting railed that there really…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:00 PM
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They get sold on date the average guy and stay in your lane but many average guys are just as shitty or disconnected as pump and dumpcguy. Not really, on average men who are only interested in women for sexual satisfaction will treat you shittier than men who want to be in a serious relationship with you. Pretending that having serious feelings for someone is no different than wanting to fuck for a night or two dilutes the whole purpose of love. Women just have an easier time excusing shitty beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:54 PM
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Funny of you to assume i want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:26 AM
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Or I could stick to long-term monogamous relationships. Escorts are expensive, but sharing an apartment with my girlfriend is cheap. Until you lose half of your belongings, have to pay alimoney and child custody battles in the case of a divorce. Unless you plan on never getting married, no thanks. Even beyond that, unless you always get the same escort each time you’re still dealing with someone who doesn’t know your specific preferences, and having to explain them each time takes the fun out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:14 AM
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I do not want to be hooking up. It sucks. It takes tremendous time, effort, and money to ensure enough activity to keep satisfied, and the sex is worse because strangers aren’t trained to your preferences. Try an escort, cuts all of the BS out, saves you time and the chick actually knows what she's doing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:56 PM
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As a male i enjoy sex a lot. Like a lot. It is probably in terms of innate physical experiences one of the most pleasurable behaviours that a guy can engage in outside of illicit drugs or theme park rides and is shown to have healthy mental and physical benefits. Asking why men why they would want to participate in hookup culture is a bit like asking foodies why they want to go and eat out for dinner. It's fucking fun, that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:55 PM
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I'm sure one day I can be a social enigma like most of the popular users on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:03 PM
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Sex with a woman is a lot more enjoyable and a lot less unsettling
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:59 PM
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"Ask men out first!" That is good advice for either gender, if you are unwilling to go out and get what you want in anything in life you will miss out on countless oppurtunities. "Sleep with a man early on so he knows you like him!" This is so,so. I would say women should avoid sleeping with men until they are comfortable. If this is after the first date or even fifth that's fine but if your purposefully holding sex as a reward for committment over most mens heads then it will get you no where. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:56 PM
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The ones who complain just don’t like their own SMV, and fail to accept their leagues. OP admitted that he was below averge in looks and height. Your average guy by definition is not OP. Average guys not wanting to bang fat chicks and preferring average looking chicks is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:47 PM
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then it’s suddenly all about love and connection...but from who??? The same heartless and shallow women? Logic. Oh don't be confused the desire men have for women is driven in essence by our innate desire for sex. Men may just be confused but there is a reason why your sexual orientation dictates who you can date and not your emotional one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:35 PM
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Men want someone they can love and will have mutual desire with. Men will not find that through dating most women. Just as many women cheat on their partners as men, half of mairrages end in divorce, and most of those are initiated by women. If you want true love get a dog and you won't have to worry about divorce settlements. A sex bot is going to satisfy some sexual needs but that’s it. A sex bot is a plastic, lifeless mold of a woman. You cannot serisouly compare sex with the two in any way. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:32 PM
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While heterosexual women waste far too much of their time taking care of men like they are inept children Inept and childlike? Which gender expects half of the others ownership and belongings, a diamond ring, protection and provision, paid meals, "knee on the ground" proposals and handling of most of the household bills etc.?Imagine you were not a female and gender did not exist for a second, what do you or any average woman do to feel that you deserve this sort of privelege while at the same ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:38 AM
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Have you guys noticed that redpill gurus have all wives and girlfriends while speaking out against it and that in general their own advice contradicts their own life ? You mean the same way all the women enpowerment BP guru's are all single, miserable, older women or non-faithful, money hungry men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:08 AM
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I couldn’t go to the movies with my brother since he wanted to bring his girlfriend (in this town). Imagine choosing the interests of a girl over your blood brother, most men are slaves to sex and female validation, it really unbecoming of everything masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:06 AM
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I’d take the plastic dick any day of the week over a guy who sees me, a human being, as interchangeable with anyone else. You are. Anyone is. That is the dating market women have constructed. It's a direct result of "I don't need a man" culture. When you dissect a man to their bank account/height/popularity do not be suprised when they begin to view you for your face/ass/tits. When you view people as disposable they will do the same It’s not a case that toys are the same / interchangeable with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:56 AM
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do heterosexual men even like women? Do heterosexual women even like men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:40 AM
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because "following your biology" and "good character" is two completely different things. Why then do we not tell this to women who desire hypergamous relationships, expect men to lead and provide or cry as often as 2nd graders? If women can toss off any irrational breakdown to "hormones" or "PMS" how come men are the dogs?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 01:10 AM
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Other men here have admitted that seeing a prostitute doesn't scratch the same itch. And other men here have admitted it does. Western men will travel to other countries for prostitution by the millions, if you think think they wouldn't be indulging if they could at home then you must not know males.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:54 PM
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Wasting time prior to that is kind of senseless - especially if you actually have a life and can't spend 4 hours a day on your phone trying to meet someone. Dating in the modern era is on par with seasonal employment. Women have overcomplicated and corrupted the process to the point that a third of men (and growing!) will simply not bother. A massive amount of modern women are time/energy voids, and literally cannot offer anything of value besides sex. Why would I spend hours of my limited time/…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:32 PM
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Think of all the women you know and encounter, and understand 1 in 4 of them has been raped. They are lying or vastly over-exagerrating. The definition of rape has been so dilluted (eg. taking off a condom mid sex) that I'm sure if men kept score a sizeable amount of them would have been raped by women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:22 PM
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My first time seeing an ejaculating penis was when a car followed me while I was on foot for a few blocks. I was 12 and walking to school. This is not a common occurence. I myself have been sexually harassed and innapropriately touched/groped by women without my consent several times in nightclubs. I can just as easily as you or any other woman use these experiences to feed into an irrational fear I have for the opposite sex however this would be a vast overreaction and feed into baseless parano…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:19 PM
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We don’t care if men are less desperate. Of course you don't, the more desperate men are the more power you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:15 PM
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I am a woman Checks out. but yes i know for many men this is part of why they seek out casual sex. If porn was illegal and stigmatized they would say the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:14 PM
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The problem is significantly smaller than men in the US or other countries where prositution is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:13 PM
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Neither of those men have had trouble dating the opposite sex and each has had multiple children with several very attractive, younger, model-tier women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:57 PM
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You’re ignoring the ego component of men being able to get casual sex. If your drive to get sex is driven primarily from the vain confirmation you get from whatever women decided to spread her legs open to you that night as opposed to your character or acutal achievements then you have little ego to salvage and should question if you are even genuinely physically attracted to women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:52 PM
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I am from Germany where prostitution is perfectly legal and that has absolutely no effect on the dating market. While I was living in Germany I got ZERO attention from girls Compare the dating market, OLD usage and female entitlement from women in Germany to the States and you'll notice a sizeable difference. I guarantee more girls in Germany would be comfortable splitting a date or approaching a man than pedastaized American women. Regardless of your personal experience (or lack thereof), OLD u…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:48 PM
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If they were being flooded with work they'd be much more selective of the men they choose to service which would give rise to the same issue Or more women would go into the market to meet that demand and make more money off of more available client's, like you see in almost every other industry. Being a sex worker generally not a very difficult profession to be intrduced into, like doctors or lawyers. Using your logic strippers should be very selective as well
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:42 PM
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Why would any women want to just be “anything with a pulse” to fuck? It is not uncommon for women to regularly store, hide and fuck plastic "pulseless" dick molds, I don't think they have much say on this. Most men I know aren’t like this at all, they have standards for attraction (not just looks) for dating, casual sex, friendships. That’s why the conversation here is futile. Then tell women to stop criticizing and discouraging known male standards. Every time a group of men agree that they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:39 PM
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Yup! Sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive Yet when you follow the same exact reasoning to rationalize why men are biologically driven to to sleep with multiple women, females will say it's not an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:32 PM
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possibly raped for going out on the town and trying to find someone to hook up with. The way Western women talk about rape you would think they lived in impoverished, third-world warzones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:38 PM
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This whole "young sexless male" debacle only started around 2014 after OLD dating took off. Women ONLY recently got this huge advantage because these apps along with social media allowed for them to connect with thousands of male suitors at the swipe of a finger. Before this most women only had 2-3 guys actively pursuing her at a time, if that. The main reason this is a problem is because in the US and many other coutries prositution is either completely illgally or highly stigmatized. If men ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:36 PM
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Don't better yourself just for the sake of women, but for yourself. Exactly these men are like disillusioned infants living their lives for the validation of equally confused, vain and misguided females. Who care's what women think? Live your life how you want it, if women don't like it go smash and escort and keep enjoying your life. When men follow women they are no longer men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:54 PM
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Legalize/normalize prostitution in the U.S. and you'll see how much men truly need women. Outside of sex women bring very little to the table as they have abandoned previously advantagous gender roles. On top of that a serious relationships with most women is a huge financiail liability due to divorce courts and custody battles. Men do not need women, they want sex. The worst parts of dating are the ones involving the women, and the best is in the bed. Understand the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:49 PM
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I think what you're reffering to is pre-emptive rejection. Either way I don't really recall men going out of there way to mock ugly women, atleast not while they were in hearing distance. If anything women were the ones mocking them, we just didn't approach them as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:43 PM
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Is it possible that you’re remembering the unattractive women who were unpleasant more than you would remember unpleasant attractive women? No, the worst rejections I can remember were all from less attractive women. Honestly better looking women will usually let you down lightly or try and "friendzone" you, it's the ugly ones you got to watch out for. I think more attractive women are more used to men approaching them and are better suited on how to handle rejections in a reasonable and efficie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:41 PM
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I've found generally unnattractive women are the worst/least feminine ones to pickup or approach. Very annoying/bitter. My theroy is that: They understand that they are too ugly to be approahced by a majority of men for anything outside of sex or a quick smash and dash... They've grown up being virtually ignored by the opposite sex and will see rejection of men who show interest in them as some sort of petty revenge/ego boost I mean even if you do avoid one and talk to her friends, it's always t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:09 PM
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The average women puts more effort into their appearance than the average man. No shit. You might as well say the average man works more than the average women. You think that stops women from bringing up the wage gap? I hate this argument that if a man and a woman equally put no effort in their appearance then they'll be comparable. The argument is not about not about effort, it is about ones natural appearence. Theres a difference between putting effot into your appearence and completely chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:01 PM
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There are more overweight + obese men than women. So women are not “fatter” on average They are practically as fat as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:23 PM
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The reason it feels to you like they don't is because the average man to the average woman is the equivalent of an ogre in appearance The average women is actually slightly fatter than the average man, so if he is Shrek, she is Fiona. On top of that most woman artifically inflate their beauty though use of make-up, cosmetics, hair dye, push-up bras, photoshop, wigs, filters etc. Wipe the make-up off her face, remove her nails and take out her extensions then have her stand next to your average g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:46 PM
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Most people do not want to admit they are shallow and inconsiderate. Men have been saying they value looks greatly for years..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:39 PM
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Women are naturally less blunt or honest than men. This is a trait they likely got through evolution as girls were practically defenceless and had to rely on the good graces of those in charge for survival. This is why they have suchu affinnitiy towards things like make-up, #fatacceptance, photoshop, snapchat filters and plastic surgeries. If you can't already tell to women image is everything, they are not going to sacrifice and image they work hard to garner so they can get a thumbs up for men…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:38 PM
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Status? Believe it or not, being the head of state of a developed European nation is somewhat of a status symbol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:39 AM
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Poland's prime minister Your attraction to him is driven primarily by his status. Take the same man and put him on an OLD app with his height in bio and the vast majority of women would swipe left.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:55 AM
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How anybody finds Pete Davidson funny or attractive is beyond me. I'm more suprised that you're suprised that a rich, charismatic, tall and successful celebrity is able to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:52 AM
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If this really is your mindset and thought process then please do yourself and women a favor and do not get into relationships ever. You don't have to tell me twice!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:48 AM
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the upsides are having someone who genuinely gives a fuck about you and genuinely desires you. Who says you are guaruntted to get this with dating? Most women will literally go out of their way to say that they will neither desire or fuck you if you fail fit a very specific archetype of male standards that they expect. Many will reject you in person, leave you on read or flat out ignore you until you do. Once you've crossed this stage then you get the chance to go out of your way to plan and pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:20 PM
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*Some women. Most women prefer more aggressive and brash men. As well as some men continue to date crazy chicks. Men will only tolerate craziness if the chick is hot, generally they prefer polite and gentle women. Woman on the other hand will reject nicer and pleasent men to seek out aggressive ones and then complain that they are used up single moms, with domestic violence PTSD lol. You get what you choose, stop crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:37 AM
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Also men are one of the most common dangers for women, while for men it's also...men. And yet they continue to date men who are more prone to violence and dominance as opposed to more docile/calmer ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:39 AM
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The population of unmarried young men are prone to violent crime and revolt. They need wives, families, and jobs to tether them down. I think this is why we've seen a rise in Right wing extremissm, school shoointgs and and incel culture amongst young men. Any culture that reults in significant portion of males dying alone will be met with revolts or violence. If you expext men who are practically geared towards sex to die virgins it will be a very, very hard sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:36 AM
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I think many men are shit at dating because they do not like dating. Why would any sane man enjoy dating when the whole courting process is structured to the benefit of the female?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:32 AM
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I think a lot of women have dated a broke man A woman will bang a broke man on a ONS or off tinder, pleny have. You don’t have to be rich but once you’re 25+ you have to have a plan to at least be self sustaining No... mostwomen do prefer to date upper class or rich men, most of them canno't though as there are more women who want to date rich men than rich men to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:16 AM
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Men care about careers and social status. I mean in the opposiet direcion of women, as in he more a woman makes the less turned on men are... All things equal I'd rather date a female bank teller than lawyer, dealing with the enttitlement of your average broke, women who lives at home is enough of a headache, imagine the nighmare of one who is considered successful, fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:22 PM
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debutante dates boy from the wrong side of the tracks to make daddy mad. This rarely happens outside of adolscent circles. At that age salary or income is nonexistent and technically all teens are broke anyway and finaces aren't really taken into consideration when choosing a partner. You rarely ever see rich women serisouly dating lower income men as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:17 PM
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Why is "men will pump and dump women of all types." Proposed as some kind of positive for women? Because women often be attracted to men who have displayed that they have the ability to sleep with multiple women. Women themselves see this as a positive, through their own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:43 PM
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You’re never going to get me to agree that cheating is okay. Horny? Use your hand. Easy for you to say, you have the sex drive of a pre-pubescent boy. Go stick a 2 shots of testosterone into your arm everyday for a few years than come back and tell me we're on an equal playing field. I might as well tell woman "Emotional? Just stop crying."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:54 AM
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How is it “easier for her not to?” It’s as easy for guys not to cheat as women. There are dozen of empirical studies that show men have much higher sex drives than women. You’re in a relationship and need sex but your girl isn’t in the mood? Go rub one out. No excuse for men or women to cheat. Less of an excuse for women because they are nowhere near as horny as men. They will refer to men as dog who only think of sex but all of a sudden you want us to believe you are just as horny as us, get ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:32 AM
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That's because men understand that when males cheat it is most often an unemotional, unsentimental sexual act as oppose to a deep emotional connection that could rival the one they share with their spouse. Men have dozens the amount of testosterone rerunning through their veins than woman. Women will produce 300-400 eggs in their lifetime, men have 100 million plus in one ejaculation. They will naturally be predisposed to desire sex far more on average and will have a harder time fighting the ur…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:07 AM
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I thought everyone around me wants to fuck me, I’d probably never leave my house. There's a fine line between being turned on by a girl enough that you would effortlessly bang her and being obsessed enough that you would stalk, harass or go crazy over her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:28 AM
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There are plenty of women who are virtually invisible to most men, believe it or not men have preferences and turn offs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:25 AM
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I would say the root of this problem is social isolation and mental health problems. Also a lack of sex. I can't think of a shooter who was able to get laid frequently. ALmost all were perpeutally bad with women and complete virgins. Sex is a naturally studied stress-reliever, men who go wthout it get more frustrated overtime.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:57 AM
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Who tf is checking into therapy for an addiction to reading. You can literally be addicted to anything, that does not make the source itself negative. In a society where 1/3 of young men can be classified as incels, male loneliness is soaring and 27% of men avoid one-on-one meetings with female co-workers due to fears of being MeToo'd you will get an over-dependency on porn but it would be stupid to say porn is to blame. Getting rid of porn will not solve anything and if anything will make the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:59 AM
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Training your brain to get off to being a spectator So do TV show's, vlogs, books and online streamers. Almost every study observing the effects of porn and masturbation show that it is generally a safe activity with some claiming of health benefits specifically in relation to the prostate. It's just easier for the plebs on PPD just scream out the "Porn in bad!" narrative or scapegoat porn for creating weak, effeminate and cucked men, than to admit it's more likely due to decades of hyper-femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:45 AM
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Prostitution is legal in many European countries, it makes fuck all of a difference. Countries where prostitution is legal and destigmatized have significantly less OLD usage, what are you saying. Paying a woman for sex is way more cucked than porn could ever be. Frequently beating off to videos of a guy paying a woman for sex is like cuckception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:18 AM
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Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 07:38 AM
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That's.. not a 7 bud "With makeup on". Any non-obese girl can hit a 7 thanks to modern cosmetics, idk where your head is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 07:04 AM
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If you're fucked in the head you can't expect to date normally. Sorry True, I mean look at Chris Brown dude gets no pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:37 AM
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wanting sex with a promiscuous woman because she "knows what she's doing" (which is often not the case) is part of cuck culture, especially paying for it. I'd rather be the cuck who bangs a 9 or 10 at the end at the night than the on who pays that in dinner, time, and energy but goes home to jerk off. Men need prostitution to be available so women can't dick tease them into being simps and paying for their dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:31 AM
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Agreed, but the dudes on PPD don't have any friends or social circle And the women on PPD are supermodels I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:19 AM
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This is why prostitution should be legal. Western men have been cucked to the point of letting women convince them there's more pride in obsessively masturbating to videos of another man fucking an escort than just going out and fucking an escort yourself. I would rather pay a couple hundred bucks to bang a hot woman, who knows what she's doing than waste hours of my time and energy entertaining some entitled, uncharismatic, vapid 7/10 with make-up on, who probably starfishes and has stretchmark…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:14 AM
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At that point, better to just pay sugar babies who are hotter and younger than putting up with modern womens demands in traditional dating Or just go to a third world country and date there. Columbian, Thai women are slimmer, hotter, more feminine etc than Western women and actually cook/clean. More Western women will all die alone than ever before seen, that's why they're all on FDS venting. Years back they didn't care, but now age is catching up and their looks are fading and they're losing fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:40 AM
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A Middle Class man in the UK is a Sugar Daddy in Columbia.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:04 AM
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A lot of men you see today expect a woman to go 50/50, yet somehow also pull the household basically on her own. Women expect men to approach, plan dates, pay for dinners, buy gifts, compliment, propose, spend money on engagement rings, get down on one knee and propose, pay alimony and child support etc. Outside of sex women provide so little to men, which may explain why they put so much emphasis on their looks and sexual appeal. You grew up being told about all things men should do for you but…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:03 AM
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But the majority of men don’t have money. Depends which part of the earth they're on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:54 AM
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Being a virgin means that sex may be hard to come by. Sex to most men is a prominent role in dating and relationships. To potentially wait years for sex with a girl you have feelings for, while being expected to have no sex yourself for can be very brutal for many guys. Being a virgin assumes some level of sexual inexperience, which usually means bad sex. Also there's the pressure of taking someone's virginity. Virginity sex is can go bad, and be unpleasant or painful. Sexual compatibility is im…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:50 AM
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Prohibition significantly reduced the amount of alcohol being consumed, even if you used liberal estimates of how much bootlegging there was going on. Yeah and it just increased the amount of illegal bootleggers, organized crime and violence in the country, which is why they scrapped it in the first place. If legal stigma and policy couldn't stop the urge to drink, what good will the stigma do for sex? Look at third world countries where causal sex is the most stigmatized, they are rampant in se…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 01:06 PM
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I do agree the chances of that happening is near zero but we can reduce the chances by having some stigma around casual sex. No you can't. People will still have casual sex whether or not there is a stigma. Having a stigma just means they will do in behind closed doors, and as a guy you're better off knowing while it's out in the open. You have the right to act however you want and I have the right to be disgusted by it. Don't normalize it through media. This isn't a discussion on rights or your…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:41 PM
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It seems we as a society have become obsessed with having our cake and eating it too 1.People are already having record low levels of casual sex. Casual sex also was just as common in more "conservative" times Getting rid of casual sex will not solve our dating issues. Societies that have restricted or denounced casual sex are not the best ones to emulate for a reason. Casual sex will always exist, whether in OLD, prostitution, or strip clubs because it is one of the most prominent and sought af…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:28 AM
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Men & Women should both stop having Casual Sex. This will and has never happened in a culture that prioritizes freedom and individuality. That's why the only places where "casual sex" does not happen are third world or under-developed nations who have more restrictions on behaviors and activities. Even then there are huge amounts of trafficking and exploitation going on behind the scenes. I mean studies show people are already having less casual sex than ever, even moreso than their "conservativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:15 AM
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Some guy approached my sister in a parking lot and asked her if she wanted to fuck in his car. I don’t see how that could work for anyone. You must not have seen enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 07:46 AM
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women don't have a height "preference" they have a height requirement. Also just a consequence of OLD and an increase of options. When you have access to thousands of potential suitors at the touch of your fingerprints, you've got to thin the herd somehow. Height wasn't anywhere as big in the 90's or 2000's. More options = More standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 07:41 AM
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Because high status men had multiple wives meanwhile low status peasants didnt get to breed, sent to war It was both. A large populace of men who have testosterone and uninhibited sexual desires in an era before any pornography are not just going to sit there and peacefully die as virgins. The reason high status men had so many women available was because there was an absence of male suitors due to post-war casualties, not because men accepted abstinence. Look at Genghis "0.5% of males descended…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 07:12 AM
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I think if you're extremely LVM, the best thing you can do is increase your value;... most dudes can at LEAST get to a 5 with effort. Even as a 5/10 male you will have to put in immense work for the chance to date even your most basic female equivalent. This would be like getting leg lengthening surgery to go from 5'4 to 5'7 in hopes of starting on a D1 basketball team, at that point you might as well try another sport. You're better off saving your money and trying out dating in another country…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 10:38 PM
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I mean it's technically possible but if you're whole life you have sincerely desired to be in a serious relationship with someone you love, there is no way that is not going to trouble you deeply somewhere regardless of whether or not you state it publicly. This is like people who say "Single Childless Women Past 30 are the Happiest People On Earth!!1!1!". Meanwhile their antidepressant usage is among the highest in the nation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:25 PM
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Socially savvy people don’t go after strangers; they date within a social group Most heterosexual couples meet either through online dating or clubs or bars which is literally comprised of approaching a stranger with romantic or sexual intentions. Maybe in the 90's this would have worked but in an era where people are less social than ever you cannot rely on this anymore, it is becoming outdated and increasingly less common. Given this simply walking up to a girl you find attractive and for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 09:07 AM
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Women have been controlling themselves sexually for almost forever It's a lot easier to control your sex drive and get over almost never getting laid when you have 15 times less testosterone coursing though your veins. This is as out of touch as saying women need to control themselves emotionally and stop crying so much, men have been doing this forever, they're equally capable. Women aren't "controlling" their sexualities, they still have as much sex as men, they are just predisposed to desire …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:58 AM
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Do you really not understand why approaching strangers with romantic or sexual intentions isn’t well-received? Dating is legit all about "approaching a stranger with romantic or sexual intentions". I can understand that some of these interactions may occasionally be uncomfortable or awkward in a public setting but to consider it legal harassment is ridiculous and is part of the reason why this generation will be the most single, sexless and childless in recent history.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:48 AM
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It's the opposite, a lot of the male problems with dating exists because men are too horny from record breaking lack of sex. Male thirst has caused a rise of basic IG models, rich e-girls and overall female standards. If men were less horny and didn't swipe everything in sight, gas up every 7 online and paid average women no mind the odds would sway more in their favour. If they were hornier, they'd find a way to get laid, no matter what hoops they have to This is a very dangerous mindset in a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:19 AM
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It’s uncommon for people to have only same sex friends. No it isn't. Most guys are only friends with other guys and vice versa. I’ve never encountered that, but if I did, I would consider it a red flag. That's a dumb take, considering all the genuinely concerning things that could be considered red flags. It's more uncommon than ever for people to have large friend groups, to judge someone for not having a friend of the opposite sex is immature and says a lot more about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:09 AM
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I'd say most men who don't have true female friends are just antisocial, not women haters Some of the most social, charismatic guys I know have all male friend groups or barely hang out with women. It's pretty uncommon for straight men in general to hang around women they're not dating often.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:43 AM
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If you always catch feelings, that's because you're lacking in romantic connections in your life. No it could be the other way around. A guy that is a natural flirt or womanizer is going to express that side eventually even around female friends. Dating and sex nowadays is complicated enough without already having feeling of close companionship, when men are faced with that or just being friends with another guy and avoiding that mess altogether why wouldn't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:41 AM
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Men not finding partners and getting married and having kids is still NOT a societal issue. Sure it's not like families backbone of every nation and needed to, create, educate and literally raise every functioning member of society. It's not like multiple governments have resorted to immigration measures to offset the aging population due to a lack of birth dates. You’re not entitled to any of that stuff. None of your human rights are being violated. Having a right is literally the bare minimum …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 10:35 PM
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People not getting laid isn’t a societal issue and there’s nothing to adres: Yes it is. If you struggle with just losing your virginity, you are likely going to struggle with dating, finding a long-term partner, getting married, settling down and have a family with a women. But even if it weren't one in three men are reporting loneliness and male loneliness has been on the rise for years, which is hardly addressed either. people who are well off have less children just because they have better e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:32 PM
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Most men are not incredibly lonely Most don't need to be for there to be a problem. A third of young adult males are virgins, studies predict that by 2040 half of men under 30 will be virgins. Most men may not be lonely now (*only\* 1/3) but they will be in the future if we don't address it. Most adults manage to have healthy connections with members of the opposite sex...Reddit that makes you think these ideas are Normal and prevalent. They aren’t. This is like saying "Most people don't live in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 08:50 PM
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Huh my man is 25 and makes six figures Your man is an anomaly, most 25 year olds or even 30 year olds don't make that much. Even at that he'll likely be making significantly more at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:43 PM
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I’m in my prime years why would I want a man that isn’t? A solid chunk of men reach their overall SMV prime (combination of age, personality, status, looks, income) in their late 20's - early 30's. Most women would be more attracted to 30 year old, high earning, professional than the 21 year old, broke, albeit attractive undergrad who takes transit everywhere and lives at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:14 PM
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I'd say it's more common for women to be willing to put their careers on hold for men than vice versa. Yeah that's because they're less career driven and work less hours on average than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:14 AM
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There's no need to exploit, trick, manipulate or trap anyone - both people are just enjoying one another's company because they like being together. It's a lot easier to enjoy someone's company when they're 6 foot 2, rich and popular. Honestly a lot of redditors need to take off their rose tints for a few seconds and observe reality. If there wasn't at least some sort of inherent manipulative feminine desire in dating FDS wouldn't exist, Cosmopolitan wouldn't sell another magazine, push-up bras …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:36 AM
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Anything under 25 is a child to me. The attempts people will make to infantilize grown adults as a means of shaming male dating preferences never fails to amaze me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:42 AM
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The near-certain fact that a 29 year-old woman is much smarter, more interesting, more stable, less self-centered doesn't matter You could say the same thing about women chasing 6'2 tall, jacked, assholes. The near certain fact that a guy who was smarter, more caring, better husband/father material, more empathetic and doesn't matter to a lot of women if he's a few inches below 5'9. When you only see people for the qualities that you enjoy then they tend to return the favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:40 AM
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Usually when an older person dies there is noticeable deterioration of their health and they are put in a hospital, many are even told that they may die soon. It is a lot more common for older folks to pass in hospitals than old care homes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 02:54 PM
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Most women end up alone even if they marry. There's big a difference between "dying surrounded by the family I had with my spouse, who passed 2 years prior" alone and dying alone after being single for the majority of my adult/senior life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:47 PM
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But then they'll get a free meal at everyone else's party, so it can work out. Or you just pay for yourself. This isn't a kiddy party, if you can't afford a birthday meal then stay home.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 12:13 PM
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But it's your party and you are inviting people. Exactly. I am the one planning and organizing the event for everyone to have a good time, do you want me to buy the guests birthday gifts for as well? It's not really fair that someone pays for you since it might not be to their tastes as they had no input in picking the place I never said that guests should pay for me, I said they should pay for THEMSELVES. If someone takes the time to invite you to a scheduled party and you still expect them to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 12:10 PM
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I do vastly prefer it our way, so I don't get the outrage. Most people don't want to pay hundreds of dollars for other people meals on their day of celebration.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:26 AM
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sounds like the mad rantings of an incel. if i ask a girl out, unless it was agreed upon beforehand, i’m gonna pay. that’s because i’m taking her out to dinner In no other social scenario is the person who invites someone expected to pay for a meal. Imagine I have a small birthday dinner and invite my close buds, then PAY for them on top of that. Men like you who refuse to hold women accountable and play dumb to all this nonsense are worse than even the most hair dyed, crazy feminist. True cowar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:42 AM
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I dont value LTR as much as i value sex When gender roles ended women abandoned most of the traits that made them valuable from a LTR perspective (Cooking, cleaning, home-training). Because sex was now their main selling point, women became a lot more focused on their sexual appeal (increase in make-up, provocative dressing, cosmetic procedures around the same time). Men are still for the most part expected to bring their gender roles into a relationship but if all women can offer now is sex+ pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 06:26 AM
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I never even knew it was a thing that the person who asks for the date is expected to pay. It's not. It's just a way for people to justify men paying the bill because they know 9/10 of the time a woman will not ask a guy out on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 06:15 AM
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And women on here really act like they wouldn't take advantage of the easy sex, money and status would get them if they were powerful men. I remember there was a thread asking women how they would cope with modern dating if they were born men and most of their answers sounded like RP talking points (fly to a third world country, get as rich as possible, date multiple women)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 07:59 AM
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they’re complete and whole human beings- sexual desire is just one part of that. Sexual desire is the key part of that. If you are not sexually attracted to someone you cannot fall in love or be in a romantic relationship with them. That's why we categorize who we can date by sexual orientations and not emotional ones. Sex plays a massive role in dating, love and reproduction. i do think relationships are more complex beyond “men want sex, women want money.” Of course they are but that doesn't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 09:53 AM
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Not that humans are only worth their genitalia, rather you reduce them to just that. When women reduce men to a wallet or status ladder, men tend to do the same. It's crazy how females who literally restrict men of a certain height from communicating with them will turn around and complain about how men don't see them for them. The egos are truly astronomical. Be as shallow as you want but please close that mouth when others do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 09:39 AM
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that plenty of men want relationships Men want sex just as much. plenty of women love men for who they are and not their status and resources Your status is in part who you are. Women will assess your status and resources to better understand up the type of man you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 09:34 AM
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Who cares? Women have a myriad of standards about what they want from men financially, emotionally, physically, socially etc. Many of which automatically disqualify average men for being an option. Men with the few standards they have should be able to say "I don't want a partner with a high body count" and leave it at that. I don't want to hear "you're insecure", "don't judge people for their pasts" etc. No if women can have standards so can men, there's nothing wrong if a guys standard happens…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:56 PM
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Most women will get what they want whether that be sex, a relationship or just shallow validation out of the app much sooner and quicker than men. Because their desires to get sex, a boyfriend or attention has already been sufficed, they will either uninstall or use the app less as their wants have been met. However most men, many of whom happen to be sexless or desperate, will be more likely to stick around, swipe endlessly or even willing pay for plans just for the oppurntity of sex. I mean Ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:30 PM
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No. Not at all. All cultures around the world are quite forgiving of male sexuality I mean it is not uncommon for Western culture to shame men for being mindless dogs for showing a strong interest in sex. The average man has like 15 times the amount of testosterone coursing though his veins than the average women, which is in part why male sexuality is viewed as more forgivable. Calling men dogs because they happen to have higher libidos is like calling women weak or children because their hormo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:13 PM
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Because men ignore what the average woman is. No study on earth could verify such a claim. In fact studies show that it is women who find a large majority (80%) of men unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:32 AM
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Most people do...Male or female Not really... Most guys would be just fine having your standard average wife who was a good mother and generally nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:08 AM
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Do you know everything that has happened over the course of her life? Do you? If not how can you say anythng about their past "Over exaggerate" I'm so tired of men saying this like it excuses what has happened. Expecting reasonable evidence behind claims is not an excuse, it is to be expected. You can't just say "Well I feel the world is this way because a lot of people told me it was". You actually have to provide quantifiable facts to justify your claims, so far the facts show that modern West…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:57 PM
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I'm just saying that the majority of women have a story about sexual violence. And a lot of women lie or over exaggerate that shit. I can't count the amount of times a woman has told me some guy was trying to drug her for buying a drink, or how some creepy guy tried to follow them home cause they walked behind them for half a block.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:42 PM
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In this economy? Nah, I would hope she could pay her half of the bills. ...There's plenty of other ways women can be traditional besides expecting their man to pay for everything. Shit, with the amount of "modern" woman who still expect men to foot most of the bills you'd think it was a progressive concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:18 AM
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As a guy being mordbidly obese or being under 5'5 usually means it's over
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:32 PM
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Before you try to draw the wahmen strawman again, women are repeatedly told that they get pumped and dumped by HVM’s who will never wife up anyone below a stacy. If this is fair game... Fair Game??? Almost anybody who tells this to women on a public level is at significant risk of being cancelled. Discussing this rhetoric could get you fired from your job and the men that do have had multiple attempts made to deplatform them. Anybody telling you it's fair game lied to you. Women by and large are…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:37 PM
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all dream for the moon but not all of us spend our entire lives whining about things like these. Women will complain day and night about unfair "beauty standards" to the point of protesting barbie dolls but men can't acknowledge that it's fucked up that you have to be damn near Chad level. You're not saying anything the average incel already admits "Chads have an unfair advantage, there's little you can do, accept it". If anything it's bluepillers who are telling men the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:02 PM
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I mean I don't get what OP's trying to say here, most average people desire and dream about living a filthy rich lifestyle, that's not delusion that's human nature. News at 10: People want to be richer and more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:37 PM
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Using that logic Average Women wanting a Chad to take them seriously are akin to the same middle class people wanting a billionaire lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:32 PM
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It’s not even just that. Men have successfully brainwashed themselves into thinking all of them DESERVE a Chad lifestyle Just like how average women have successfully brainwashed themselves into thinking all of them DESERVE a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:31 PM
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No. It’s not even the money though It's always about the money. Women will leave a responsible, hard working laborer in a second to smash a alcoholic, lazy, reckless rich lottery winner or trust fund baby 9/10 times. lazy, irresponsible, or who makes bad decisions Yeah Dan Bilzerian has all these traits, I bet the broke but studious/hard working college student gets wayyy more girls than that guy, since it's not even about the money though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:23 PM
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And yet we're not offing ourselves, like men. Yep you're just trying harder to, congrats ladies Most of the women on antidepressants are married, with children. They get off the anti-depressants after the divorce Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:54 PM
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Man or woman, if you do that This is what women pull out when they want to keep on calling men predators for non-predatory shit as they know society will rarely refer to woman as predators regardless of what they may do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:50 PM
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*snort* you go straight from 'men are more likely to kill themselves Yeah after they make the mistake of marrying a women who divorces them, I'm sure this new just makes men super eager to propose now. 'women are more likely to be on anti-depressants.' This is women in general. Especially older, post-wall women. You have your fun in your 20's then it's downhill from there. No more attention or validation. If you took antidepressants out of the market or at the same rate as men women would be dro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:30 PM
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Single men are significantly more likely than women to commit suicide. Women are more likely to be suicidal and suffer from depression than men. Women are actually 2-3 times more likely to attempt suicide than men, men just kill themselves more because their means are more violent (falling of a building, using a gun etc) while women may resort to pills or cutting which have a higher likelihood of failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:49 PM
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Women are more likely to seek out things like therapy, friends for emotional support, medication for anxiety/depression etc. Happy people do not seek out antidepressants, if women are stating they are happier antidepressants may be more so to blame than "their strong friend circles".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:43 PM
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at least let the harmless men enjoy their luxuries. Exactly if men really want to stop simping they would need to give them a outage, legal and safe prostitution, is key to this. In a generation where men are having less sex than ever, simping is to be expected. All that built up male, sexual repressed vigor has to go somewhere. Women will always exploit it for their own desires, "Want a chance of sexual gratification? Just click the link in my bio, swipe my Tinder, follow my Tiktok, donate on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:38 PM
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Average women aren't that extraordinary either, but women build social circles/connections easier and get a lot of emotional support from friends. Look up the rates of antidepressants between women and men, specifically as they get older, then get back to me on this talk of men aging sadly and women getting happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:18 PM
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great majority of men can transition to having more financial freedom I want whatever it is you're smoking that made you think I ever said that. I merely stated they would be better off financially not getting married and having kids, which is just common sense. You're the one who mentioned women "retiring to the south of France, or wherever slice of the world their little hearts desire to live alone". Mind you, you said this about a gender which happens to earn significantly less than men but a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:13 PM
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But let's not kid ourselves... even the most red among us... did think about and daydream of having one woman, a family. Most understand that's a pipe dream that is no longer feasible in the modern world where only 50% of marriages last anyway, half would've been alone regardless and that's court battle, dead-broke, "I can't see my kids" alone at that. Statistically men would be better off not being married in this day and age, as divorced men are more than 2 times as likely to kill themselves. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:51 PM
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The beta males will settle for video games and porn No as they get older and their income increases men will dive into the sex tourism market. Most of the people that pay for escorts are more mature guys. Middle aged men just aren't videogames and porn addicts, by 40 if a man hasn't gotten laid yet he'll just bang a hooker or play sugar daddy if he's on the wealthier side. We'll see an spike in mail order brides as well, as men will realize their dating pool does not have to be limited to Wester…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:23 PM
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Men are behind the curve in planning for the terribly real fact that the great majority of them will live a life, alone. Oh no those poor men, they'll have to live life without overweight, post wall, unfeminine, high n-count, modern or independent women. They'll miss out on all those alimoney payments, divorce settlements, dead bedrooms, child support and custody battles... I mean the poor bastards....with all that extra additional income...I bet some some will even travel the world and bang hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:07 PM
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a teen with that grooming attempt
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:56 PM
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You cited a comment that mentions grooming several times actually
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:45 PM
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But a 20 year old is not a teen, rather a full grown adult capable of gong to war and dying, if they choose to date an older man how is it grooming
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:36 PM
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A 45 and a 20 y.o. is creepy, Just out of curiosity, what do you find creepy about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:55 PM
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Gen Z
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:52 AM
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Today George would have never gotten Susan Forget that, have you seen George?? In 2020 he would have 110% be a mod in some incel chatroom with an e-girl addiction. When I first started watching Seinfeld, I could not wrap my mind around the fact that a short, over-weight, bald, cheap, nerdy looking guy was able to get a date, let alone have a desperate girlfriend. Dude looked like an ancient Neckbeard ancestor. In this generation he would have died alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:59 AM
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You can make that argument for guys banging fat, dumb or easy women. What does your subjective take on patheticness have to do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:32 PM
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39% is not “majority” I never once stated that it was the majority, I said it was the most common, which it is. Nonetheless if It was 39% in in 2017. We are now in 2022, if you think OLD has not overtaken to become the majority especially in this COVID-19 era, I don't know what to tell you. Meeting online ≠ dating apps. Okay? My focus was Online Dating not primarily dating apps per se. Women get options through online dating from dating apps, social media DM's, sugar sites etc. not just through …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:55 PM
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Too many guys turn to blaming dating apps. The world is not represented in a dating app, believe it or not. Online dating is undeniably the most common way heterosexual couples meet, beating Friends Circles, Bars/Clubs and School or Family. To pretend that dating apps are some obscure factor in modern dating is to deny basic reasoning. Just like women have more options, so do men. I don't see it as a liability in this case. Point out the app/website/service that would allow your average men to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:20 AM
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Before Online Dating for an average guy to get with an average girl he maybe had to be the best option out of 2-4 guys that she may have been seeing at the time. With the rise of dating apps, social media and the internet, even the most painfully average woman could have hundreds of options down to meet up with her, with a few swipes of her hand. If you are an average guy, with average height, looks and income, being the best option when compared to 3 guys is attainable but being the best option…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:15 PM
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Your average suburbian house made from shitty cardboard is demolition material. A simple google search of the rise in housing prices over the past 10-20 years would easily refute your entire argument. Anybody that thinks you have to put in money into historical monuments to get returns on investment knows 0 on property or real estate. An upscale condo in a metropolitan city could reap you hundreds of thousands if you're patient enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:37 PM
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I absolutely love being compared to inanimate objects. -said no woman ever 🤮 He literally did the same thing to men. It's funny how you people complain about how rude it is without actually refuting anything OP stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:41 PM
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Weird. Most 20 year old, American guys could attest that being a player is generally good for your social standing. Maybe you're an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:33 PM
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Women generally will think of a man as low value if he uses a prostitute even if he’s rich lol. Totally, I mean Eddie Murphy, Alex Rodriguez and Hugh Grant were all unanimously deemed as low value by women following their prostitution scandals, the poor guys can't even get laid now. I heads A-Rod actually moderates an incel chatroom now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:38 PM
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never heard of a guy getting praised for fucking a whole bunch of woman. Where do you live? I mean people aren't forming a circle and giving the guy a standing ovation but generally speaking, guys who do smash a lot of chicks garner some respect from their peers along with attention from women. Granted this is usually something immature that happens during high school or in your 20's but it's definitely a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:25 PM
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south american nations have the highest number of dating app users. One of the 2 South American counties mentioned in the article (Argentina) only had an OLD usage of 9.5%, still way lower than U.S. and even several European countries. The other one Columbia has very low OLD usage relative to other counties. And Mexico despite not being a South American country is also Laissez Fair concerning prostitution, has one of the lowest OLD usage rates on the map.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:49 AM
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Sure, in the study cited you can see that the countries with the least usage of OLD apps, are ones where prostitution is either legal (Germany, Austria) or a laissez fair (Italy, France, Spain). The countries which have restrictive prostitution policies and hold a strong anti-prostitution stance like U.S., U.K. and Canada are to no one's surprise found to have the highest use of OLD amongst all other counties.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:55 AM
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It’s pretty ingrained in us that men who have sex with literal prostitutes are low value. Except if they're billionaires, movie stars, famous athletes, platinum artists, CEO's etc. Most of the guys who visit prostitutes are well off and married. The "low value men" only use prostitutes mentality is a myth spread by modern media. In most countries prostitution is not tied to male value and can be viewed as a boys night out thing, akin to a strip club. Only in the most feminized, gynocentric count…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:42 AM
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In places where prostitution is legal, men haven’t checked out of the dating market. Countries where prostitution is legal, have a lower usage rate of Online Dating than countries where it is illegal. Mind you prostitution is globally stigmatized, so imagine the difference amongst men if it was no longer stigmatized.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:33 AM
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What’s wrong with them warning other women? Warning a friend or acquaintance who happens to swipe by him on Tinder is completely fine. Taking your time to congregate with other women and film/edit several online videos, posting his picture, job information and location for millions to see is sad, weird and creepy as fuck. The fact that you can't see this proves OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:49 PM
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Men really are dramatic when it comes to these analogies. Well since we're so dramatic, how about you approach, text first, plan the date, drive the conversation and pay for dinner. Most women can hardly be bothered to get past the first stage of asking a guy out. You're still getting the same good (hopefully) sex its just not as soon. It's not the time, it's the fact that you are making me wait longer than the guy who doesn't give a shit about you. We love wasting our time, money and energy for…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:43 PM
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because he’s (supposedly) a serial liar and ghoster. You left that major detail out. Believe it or not ladies, when you are actively dating as an adult you will encounter people who...(wait for it)...ghost or lie. Most normal people take it as a lesson and learn to avoid it, they do not practically dox the person online by the millions. Imagine if men did this? Women would be calling it flat out stalking and harassment. The criticism here should be towards the crazy girls not this random guy, re…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:15 PM
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If men are going to play games, expect women to play back. And women are better at it because they gang up. Honestly knowing women, I wouldn't be surprised if dude was getting more pussy than ever because of all this attention. Great strategy ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:45 PM
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Do you want to be considered a good person? Considered by whom? Some girl who will call me a "good guy" for taking her out to dinner or listening to her problems while she gets dick from a distant fuckboy? In that case I could give a damn.. No one has to be a good person there’s lots of shitty men out there and they do just fine. Exactly. If you offer nobody any incentive for being good and in fact punish them, all while rewarding those who do "bad" things, you would be a fool to expect the unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:03 PM
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Isn't that commitment? The man can change his mind afterwards and find another woman. Tell that to females of this generation. Grown ass woman are literally borderline harassing this guy, warning girls by the millions that a 6'4 guy in his mid-20's on a dating app dare wants...sex without commitment. In a world where everyone knew that unrequired commitment was part of "what dating is more or less", this would never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:51 PM
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Women no longer NEED men and are now setting their standards higher than ever. Vice versa. Men only desire sex, most women offer little outside of that, which is why they have become so beauty obsessed over the last few generations. Men would be fine if prostitution was legal and accepted culturally, however women to a degree are aware of this and will try to prevent and shame any form of escorting but once that's out of the way the 2 unneeded groups may part.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:44 PM
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Isn’t that what dating is more or less; There's literally a Tiktok trend going viral right now because women are offended that some tall guy named Caleb, wants to smash them without commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:36 PM
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Many women have a fear of being seen as easy. For women to understand, this is the equivalent of a guy you've been dating for months telling you that he had taken several, colder and less interested women on nicer/fancier dates, showered them with more compliments and paid more attention to them in order to seem more "gentlemanly" and win them over... However with you a split coffee at Starbucks was all he needed because you made the mistake of being very receptive, friendly and responsive to hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:41 PM
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Well obviously now that his feelings are invested she feels comfortable enough saying that. There's many things people would never say on their first date that they would have no issues admitting several months into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:39 PM
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Clearly she likes sex and is comfortable with casual sex, but wouldn't want it with someone she was planning a relationship so that she could filter out someone who only cared about the sex, and to prevent herself from being hurt by someone who she liked a lot and experienced something intimate with ghosting her early on. ....Or she would just rather just make OP wait so she doesn't risk seeming like a slut and blowing her chances with Mr.Right
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:06 PM
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Sex is not a "reward". Oh it isn't? Well why do women make certain men jump through all these hoops (approaching, planning dates, paying for dinners) before they can engage in it, while other more attractive men get it instantly? To say viewing sex as a reward is "dude logic" is moronic, as if it's not uncommon for women to literally dangle sex over their boyfriends/husbands heads to get them to do what they want. Now that guys like OP have to wait, while fuckboys smash on the first date, it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:00 PM
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English please
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:18 PM
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Normal culture is not here to give men any dating advantage, to the contrary their advice to men is for the benefit of women. They will tell you that all you need to do is be kind, respectful and polite to get a girl, or to be her friend for several years, that you should be willing to do anything for her, that women are all princesses that you should be lucky to date or that's it's fine to date single mothers and not to judge high n-count women and more myths that will put men at an massive dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:12 AM
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Most average men are low value. Especially in America, fat, unattractive by that default, etc. High Using this logic so are average women as they are just as fat as average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:33 AM
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Right, what universe did OP think he is making this post in? A Bluepill one, where women will love you regardless of your flaws and confident assholes are virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:32 AM
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No, I've barely even seen average men get approached by women, yet alone turn them down again and again
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:25 PM
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As a man who was hornier than most other men I knew, I frequently witnessed other men turn their nose up at women that showed interest that I would happily fuck. As a man, I have absolutely never witnessed such a phenomenon. I've seen Chads or HVM turn down women regularly but if you're saying that average guys are frequently rejecting women left and right, I'm not sure what planet you're on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:44 PM
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For most men a woman who sleeps around is a slut. For most women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:34 PM
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Society isn't going to change. Either adapt or give up. This mentality is why it's not going to change. As a matter of fact it will only get worse you can only adapt so much but when the problem worsens every year you have no choice but to attempt to change the society causing said issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:10 AM
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I think most girls would find MGKs body attractive even though he isn’t ripped. The part of his body they find attractive is his height. Being 6'3 is an advantage in and of itself, yet alone being that height with blond hair, blue eyes and a pretty symmetrical face. Why people are still acting surprised that women are attracted to him just shows how out of touch people are with female dating preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 12:35 PM
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Standards have gone up for male bodies but OLD is more to blame than just gym culture in general. Tinder, Bumble and other dating apps are places where even the most painfully average woman can literally receive hundreds of suitors, matches and DM's with very little effort. It's a lot easier to state that you only date guys who are at least 6 feet tall, lean and with abs when you literally have hundreds of options to choose from, plus it allows women to thin out the abundant herd of interested m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:34 AM
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Less than 5% of adults between the age of 25-29 are still virgins though. You're citing a study from 2014 significantly before the rise of OLD and and male sexlessness. Studies from even 2018 indicate that male sexlessness amongst youth are at an all time high and show that that share of men under 30 who report zero female sex partners has almost quadrupled since 2008. Anybody that says this isn't a significant number is insane. Also, it isn't really the most important social and emotional bond.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:34 PM
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That said, men here spend too much time complaining about simps. Simps are to blame for a lot of common male dating issues like over-inflating the ego's of modern women and supporting backwards feminists agendas. Most simps have a "white-knight" complex and will do the bidding of any female who gives them attention, usually at the expense of men. On top of that, most only simp out of pure desperation as opposed to heartfelt desire, so there is a underlying but apparent weak and pathetic nature t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:06 AM
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They say that men should stop complaining and work on themselves in the midst of empirical data showing a record level rise in male sexlessness but expect society to help join their fight to end "body-shaming" because all women deserve to be accepted for who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:52 PM
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But if they both want a really deep, sincere relationship, where they want to get to know each other and love with all the mistakes, then being completely open is perfectly fine. "...In a perfect world"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:36 PM
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Timothy not getting pussy Yeah lets dilute a significant portion of men not being able to maintain or engage in one of the most important social, economic and emotional bonds to some guy who can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:33 PM
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I mean considering around 90% of women have children You can still pop out plenty of children and be alone or unwed, you're just called a single mother instead of a single woman. more men than women are sexless unless you believe those Having a lot of men sleep with you without commitment does not mean you are not single.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 06:55 AM
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If you don’t like those women. Don’t date them. Nobody does lol, women who never shut up about how independent they are, are not known for being healthy, happy relationship material. They confuse "independence" with being single, lonely and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 06:11 AM
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Believe it or not, a lot of dude here argue that it's common for men with good social lives and broad friend groups to be virgins because they are 5'5" or something. It is, male virginity and sexlessness is at an all time high. Atleast a third of young men are sexually inactive, they can't all be social outcasts or low status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:02 PM
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There's a thing called "ugly hot." You mean being ugly enough that you're noticeably unattractive but rich and famous enough to justify women sleeping with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:59 PM
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I find the average men by definition average or average looking. They are neither ugly or attractive, just average. If you were a woman, would you be attracted to most men you came across? It would depend on a plethora of things. Research shows that personality, income and status all play a significant role in male attractiveness when viewed by women. It would also depend on how large the pool for available mates may be, if I lived in a town to 2000 I might find an average joe to be pretty damn …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:43 PM
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getting caught with hookers even though they can basically get any woman they want. Hookers are more a matter of utility than strictly pleasure. When dealing with professional escorts rich or wealthy men diminish their chances of blackmail, scandal, STD's, pregnancy scares, gossip, false rape accusations etc. Sure there is a serious risk if they are caught using one but compared to the dangers involved with smashing a random girl, it balances itself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:30 PM
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If your face is misshapen though it’s not going to help you. For your face to be so misshapen that the effects of contouring would be of no effective use, you would have to have some sort of facial asymmetry bordering a legitimate disability, a condition which would represent in extremely miniscule portion of the female population. For the vast majority of average looking women contouring would make significant differences in the facial appearance, which explains it wide use and success in moder…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:22 PM
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Your solutions could fix that but if her face is crooked, eyes are oddly shaped or spaced, jaw is too big, or too recessed etc makeup and weave isn’t going to make her hot. I mean "Contouring" is a widely used technique of applying makeup which is meant to alter perceptions of jaw and facial bone shape/structure. There are a ton of cosmetic tools commonly marketed and sold which would significantly alter everything from, skin tone, hair length, eye shape, breast size etc. Look up any women befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:06 PM
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Most women are on average more attractive than men, make-up plays a massive role into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:14 AM
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I'm amazed you guys don't understand this thing called "having an ugly face" I'm amazed you girls don't understand this thing called make-up, weaves, fake lashes etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:19 AM
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Women are able to artificially inflate their looks with makeup, cosmetics, push-up bras, wigs, weaves and plastic surgery etc. Men are not. As such they tend to look better on average because they have access to enhance their looks whereas men are barred from the same techniques. Have a week were women are not allowed to wear any cosmetics and you'll see far less of these couples walking around. Also when comparing strictly for appearance maybe the women may beat the man but I'd be willing to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:22 AM
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This man just said being better cooks, wtf lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:35 PM
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baffling how RedPillers here act like OLD is the only method of meeting women. They don't and many actually encourage meeting women in bars, clubs or in person when appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:18 PM
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because we have a biological advantage haha Like an overall lower life expectancy and a significantly higher likelihood of dying/committing suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:15 PM
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They may peak in terms of having more money, being advanced in their careers, and being able to understand women better than when they were younger. If they peak in all of those fields (money, career advancement, game) they will still be overall more attractive and have better success with women than they did in their late teens/early 20's when they were broke or jobless. Most athletes are at their physical peaks in their early to mid 20's but they have their best seasons or are at their best ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:49 AM
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The majority of men do well with women. No they don't. Most men will take what they can get, about a third are sexually inactive, and the upper echelon have access to a quite copious amount of women. Furthermore studies show that as time progresses dating has become increasingly harder for young men. Sexlessness has almost tripled in under 8 years from 2010 to 2018. As you can see clearly from the graph this is an issue common only amongst males. Just imagine how bad it is now. It blows my mind …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:23 PM
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The sweet innocent virgin trope is something that is perpetuated by society at large. No the idea that the trope is perpetuated by society and directed towards women, just further reinforces the trope. The whole point of the trope is that and frees women of accountability and places it in the hands of society AKA men and/or powerless women influenced by said men. Women have no intrinsic interest in behaving like this See above Women despise nice guys. Sure, but they like when nice guys buy them …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:09 AM
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Exactly how is it in women's best interest to have a male population that they actively make unattractive? You get to maintain the "sweet, innocent women" narrative, which is far more appealing than openly confessing the negative characteristics about your gender You cultivate a dating market where men are easier to exploit and more willing to provide attention, money, companionship, validation etc for less in return. You'll raise a generation of safety net simps who will put on a cape to cop ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:43 AM
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Typical. Never take responsibility for your own life and success. Where are dimwit's like you when women blame male "patriarchal" society for the non-existent wage gaps, single motherhood, body-shaming, objectification etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:21 AM
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Now do that dozens more times and get shot down every single time, with some of the rejections being significantly more brutal. Men will lay them down easy, women are often encouraged to go out of their way to make rejection for men as embarrassing as possible. I've seen grown women laugh, talk shit and high-five each other after rejecting guys or brag for weeks about how "some creep" tried to get their number. In a culture where a public approach is bordering harassment you can't possibly under…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:36 AM
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The bitterness comes from feeling deserving but unrewarded. It’s silly but hard to teach. No it comes from years of being told by media, mothers, and female friends or acquaintances that, this was the way to court them. The unfortunate reality that women may like distant assholes, or value looks over personality, sucks but most men can accept that without serious resentment. It's the years of rejection, getting played and delayed development from counterproductive advice because you were basical…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:23 AM
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No, we mean their personality is terrible in other ways If having a terrible personality made men incels Jeremy Meeks would be a MGTOW2 moderator.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:44 PM
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At least they’re doing some about it. What are they doing? Bitching about a statistically non-existent wage-gap that know legitimate economists believes? They write blogs in blankets too. At least incels do research which reflects the realities of the world. Women aren't doing anything differently they just have vaginas so people listen women may end up making more if incels’ lack of initiative in the dating world starts to bleed into their jobs. The richest women on earth are acquired their wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:40 PM
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Why don't you lose some weight and aim for women in your weight class? There is always going to be something wrong that the individual man is doing and never the over-reaching culture. When women go through their generational gender issues concerning reproductive rights, "wage-gaps" or body dyspmophia men and society as a whole are encouraged to share some effort to join the battle to make the world a better place for all girls. When men have issues the answer is "well why don't YOU just _____" …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:20 PM
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How many great things have people been able to achieve even when the statistical odds against them were real and quantifiable? Fewer than they would have if the statistical odds were in their favor. We can put a man on the moon but you can’t get one girl to like you? You don’t see the excuse-making in action? We can put a man on the moon but you can't earn as much money as a man in 2022? You don't see the excuse-making in action?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:12 PM
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Excuse-making. If the 80/20 rule is real and quantifiable it's not an excuse, it's a legitimate reason why dating for many men may be futile. Don’t need to try if you think the odds are forever stacked against you. Many men who are aware of the rule did in fact try for years just to get nowhere or very poor results. The fact that they're so adamant about the rule is more likely because they tried over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:42 PM
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Its that men are too lazy to put in the effort women do. Using this logic I could call women lazy for working less hours, making less money or doing easier jobs than men. It's not that either gender is lazy it's just that we're drawn to different things. The energy women put into their looks is what men put into making money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 11:30 AM
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which is exactly what women want. the only women who would be sad/angry about this are the women who profit off of lonely men's miseries All, even average women would be upset over sexbots because they all benefit off of a man's loneliness. Maybe not by monthly income but through attention in person/social media, through online dating, drinks/bars, beta provider safety nets etc. Any women who says that women would have no issue with this are lying to themselves. Also it won't only be undesirable…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:22 PM
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Why do women use “IM A WOMAN!” Because they know, despite years of propaganda and media suggesting they are oppressed, they know that they get special treatment in society (Never hit a girl, save the woman and children etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:29 PM
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men love to talk about how they built civilization but can't see that women's "hypergamous" nature is what built the advancement of civilization as well. If you think women in hunter gatherer tribes decided who mates with who, you may want to pick up a history book. Genghis Khan whose DNA can be found in 8% of Asian men and 0.5% of the world's population did not "win over" the thousands of women he impregnated with his sweet charm. He slept with with them consent or not. The women in those times…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:39 AM
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Feel free to suck a dick anytime you want, What??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:43 AM
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to why they shouldn’t put any effort into improving. On the most logical level if you are an average guy, making average income, with average looks why should you have to put in any significant affort to date an average women who is literally your equivalent?? Especially for a generation of women who invented the term bodyshaming, do they sound like they're really into improving themselves? Look around you though, average people are with average people Not really. Maybe in some couples but I kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:32 PM
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That’s a bit disingenuous. 39% met online, and 61% met someway in person. In a steadily decreasing rate, mind you this was back in 2017 pre-COVID-19 era. People are progressively relying more and more on social media as a means of dating. Inevitably it will overtake in person meeting, or it may already be at that level.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:15 AM
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You think they are living under a rock? Go to a college campus, ask 100 women if they know what reddit is then come back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:23 AM
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None of the single women I know use dating apps. I'm not single, but I certainly wouldn't. You're a woman with a reddit account. You deviate so much from the average woman that using your personal anecdotes on dating would be like asking a male ballerina for boxing advice. No offence but most normal, young women have never heard of reddit and are definitely aware of single women who use dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:16 AM
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A lot of women don't need dating apps. They can meet men in real life easily. Not true OLD (Including dating apps and social media) is the most common way couples meet nowadays. A lot of women aren't attracted to the type of men who tend to use dating apps, so they don't use them. Wrong. A lot of women aren't attracted to most men who use dating apps. Many men that reach the attractiveness threshold are able to attract multitudes of women online and through dating apps, while the majority of men…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:04 AM
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Many women only utilize dating apps and social media in order to obtain social validation and attention from men with no real desire on finding a partner or hooking up. They download the app for a few weeks, get their fill of DM's, compliments and validation then leave. Unless your a very attractive man, most women will have little desire to sleep with you. A woman's need for male validation and attention, is the female equivalent to the male sexdrive. In the past before every women had their eg…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:42 AM
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I am just pointing out there are drawbacks to legal prostitution we should keep in mind and it doesn’t solve every issue, it in fact makes something’s worse. The prominent question that you'll have to inevitably acknowledge isn't whether or not legalized prostitution has drawbacks, it is whether or not we as a society are better off with legalized and regulated prostitution as opposed to criminalized and de-regulated prostitution. I don't understand how anyone can argue that legalized prostituti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:06 AM
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Any market where a high in demand good or service is illegal or banned will always be worse then when it is legal and regulated. We've seen this with drugs, alcohol, weed etc. If you think the "supply/demand" issues the European model may have would be better under a U.S. like model where protection was illegal you're fooling yourself. Sex workers in the U.S. encounter rampant abuse, sexual, assaults, STD's, jail time, and murder compared to those in Europe. It's actually funny that you cited th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:49 AM
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Do your experiences mirror my own? Yes, foreign women are easier to conversate with, more social, feminine and polite than western women. Foreign women seem to look at men as equals while Western women view any Non-High value man as an annoying nat only good for providing validation, mundane labor related tasks or free drinks. Have you met any of the stereotypical foreigner types mentioned in the post? In some sense Do you agree that there is an observable bias between western women and foreign …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:24 AM
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didn’t denigrate women who grant them access to sex. I can assure you that keeping prostitution illegal and stigmatized is denigrating more women than the alternate. Women in the current illegal market of sex-work are often illegally trafficked, beaten, drugged/raped. If denigration of women was your true concern legalizing prostitution would do the opposite. Why are men entitled to have a woman lower herself for them Nobody is lowering anyone. Your attitude on sex-workers as a whole says a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:02 AM
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Why everyone is getting pissed it’s okay women are fucking anything that comes around and also some hot men too, I don't give a damn who women sleep with, honestly that doesn't concern me or anybody else. I just want men to have legalized and normalized access to prostitution. If a woman does not want to have sex with a man for whatever reason that is her right, but men should not have to rely on her for sexual satisfaction. Telling a good chunk of man that they should just get over never having…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 11:24 PM
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I felt like the advice was somewhat outdated but I do think he means well. He completely played the typical "Young Men are Sissy Nerds" approach while completely ignoring how OLD applaud social media have inflated the ego's and standards of modern woman to the point that they feel interacting with any men not in the 20% is beneath them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:24 AM
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I think Bill’s point, which I agree with, is that most women on the street are not Twitter warriors and can be approached like normal people. Lmao have you ever approached women in person? Unless you are physically attractive most will be noticeably uncomfortable with your presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:21 AM
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Seems to me, end game is dying alone without wife or kids (or, another wife and more kids). Driving sex trade, porn, lots of short term relationships, at best several LTRs, etc. The Red Pill Worst Case scenario is still 1000 times better than your average BP reality of staying in a sexless marriage for decades, going broke from getting divorce raped, playing step-daddy to the kid of a burnt out, post-wall single mom or losing custody of your own children in biased court systems. And women still …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:23 AM
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IDK why guys here insist women over 30 have a hard time because women in their 20’s are more desirable. The older a guy is the less desirable he is to young women. Any average woman can date or be in a serious relationship with your average joe. Woman over 30 (or practically any woman) if they wanted to are a few swipes away from finding an average man, but women do not complain about not being able to date average men, they complain about not being able to date above average men. 90% of them wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:16 AM
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Look, if you think of relationships as trade-offs and effort drains then you’re either in a bad relationship or not fit for relationships. Everything concerning choice in life is a trade off and relationships are no different. Whether or not you publically acknowledge it's a trade-off is up to you but it always is. There's a reason why the hotter women get the higher their standards, and the more successful men get the more attractive the girls. People are so warped into this "idealist", moral d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 06:10 PM
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lacked a proper masculine rolemodel while growing up and because of that aren't fit for a relationship/marriage. If lacking a proper masculine rolemodel makes you unfit for dating, a lot of women have no business dating as well. Having a positive male role model is not a prerequisite for dating, and matters much less tan things like looks, income or overall status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 05:52 PM
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