winsomefish Archive

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2	Why doesn't TRP subvert gender roles, instead of integrating them into their theory? Yeah we're a little bit weird. I'm sorry I got so defensive. It kind of just echoed my thoughts and experiences growing up, lots of self-doubt, thinking I was just weird and broken, etc. Thanks for apologizing and being open-minded. Edit: not all demisexuals are going to give a damn about muscles, that's a just a personal preference I was sharing. I like to draw and I just don't find them aesthetically pleasing. A lot of my straight friends feel similarly but I'm fairly certain we're in the mino…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/15 01:52 PM
0	CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women. K.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/15 01:43 PM
0	CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women. Lel. Alright. Enjoy the hamster wheel. P.S. You didn't say tumblr, but all the stuff you linked in that Google Image search was from tumblr. That's not evidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/15 08:24 AM
0	CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women. Tumblr =/= mainstream women's media. I don't understand why, if such a preponderance of evidence exists in the mainstream, you couldn't come up with a few citations. Expecting you to back your shit up with more than a Google images link is not manipulative. But then Red Pillers are always saying that being forced to defend their position with -gasp- facts is just a part of the grand feminist conspiracy to keep the voices of men silent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/15 07:59 AM
0	CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women. None of what I'm saying is manipulative. I'm asking you to prove your point further than tumblr posts that TALK ABOUT THE GENDER ROLES THAT TRP IS BASED ON. I'm asking you to prove that women are encouraged to manipulate men in relationships, which is what you've been saying is a thing this whole time. You haven't linked me to one article, given me one book title that illustrates your point. You'd be surprised to know, probably, that the majority of what is ascribed as "masculine" comes from boo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/15 07:53 AM
1	CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women. You gave me a bunch of Google image results. Those are not the "the best sellers, cosmo, all the "how to train a man" media" that you've been referencing this entire time. Further, while what you DID link is uncomfortably representative of gender roles, none of what was said about "real men" has anything to do with "training them." While gender roles and the way they limit us are definitely a problem, nothing that you showed me has anything to do with emotional manipulation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/15 07:37 AM
0	CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women. No, like, actual citations, specific books, etc. I've never seen anything that has anything to do with "training" men that isn't from the seventies or older. You aren't even addressing my rebuttal, you're just repeating the same unsubstantiated claims over and over. Edit: to address the link that you just posted without labeling as an edit, I will link you to what men say a "real woman" should do. Men have been trying to ascribe specific roles to women since Biblical times, and in ways that are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/15 07:24 AM
1	Why doesn't TRP subvert gender roles, instead of integrating them into their theory? Please don't try to tell me what my sexual orientation is, thanks. I am going to choose to believe you don't know how offensive that is and as such I'm not going to blow up at you. I've felt like a freak for long enough because of people like you and I really don't appreciate it. Have a nice life. Edit: And for clarification: You'll notice I said "before I experience sexual attraction" this is an entirely involuntary reaction. I just don't have sexual feelings for people naturally. It's like tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/15 03:37 AM
1	Why doesn't TRP subvert gender roles, instead of integrating them into their theory? Initial response: ಠ_ಠ Secondary response: Oh yeah, I'm into it. Those pansexuals with their pans are hella weird though. Actual response: Demisexuality is a term used to describe people who are halfway between asexual and some other form of attraction. I am a mostly hetero-leaning demisexual. I have to have a strong emotional connection/attraction to a person before I experience sexual attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/15 02:26 AM
0	CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women. Any evidence of this? Because all I've ever been taught is to just be honest with people. All I've ever read is basically literature (bestsellers, women's magazines, etc) denouncing manipulative behavior. I don't doubt that many women think that making men jealous is fun or a normal part of a relationship, but feminists don't advocate for that behavior. I am also not denying that rhetoric that advocates manipulating men, or teasing them/making them jealous to get what they want exists--I know ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/15 02:22 AM
1	Why doesn't TRP subvert gender roles, instead of integrating them into their theory? Probably not, because I (presumably) know him and I'm equally (if not more so--I'm demisexual/demiromantic) attracted to his insides, but for the most part muscles turn me off of anyone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/15 02:13 AM
1	Why doesn't TRP subvert gender roles, instead of integrating them into their theory? I realize this carries no actual weight because it's technically anecdotal, but I find muscular men extremely unattractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/15 09:20 PM
0	CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women. The thing is you're completely wrong. Most women's dating material advocates open discussion and communication about problems. That's not manipulation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/15 08:58 PM
0	CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women. The word "rare" means infrequent, this has absolutely nothing to do with where it shows up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/15 03:18 AM
1	CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women. Even in the case that that is true, where things show up very rarely in mainstream "women's media" and whatnot, the entire Red Pill philosophy is based on the idea that women can and should be manipulated emotionally.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/15 01:29 AM
-1	CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women. If you're getting your advice from TRP, you STILL don't understand women. Don't flatter yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/15 01:23 AM