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No. Being White Knight and a decent guy are not the same . We all agree if we are decent people, that women deserve equal rights, deserve respect and should receive equal pay for equal work. These are basics that everyone agrees on. A white knight, goes way, way beyond this. For example a white knight might believe that for example, women are truly not responsible for any of their actions or their consequences. That a man is responsible for all or most of the bad decisions a woman makes. Let me …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 07:30 PM
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Yes. Exactly. All women are different, so you can't say that every single woman is attracted to this or that. But what most guys are talking about when we say alpha fucks and beta bucks, is the phenomenon of women choosing a bad boy who they are actually attracted to when they are younger and then choosing a "good guy" they are NOT attracted to when they get older. If she is genuinely and actually sexually attracted to this kind of guy, it isn't AF/BB. If she isn't, it is. No self-respecting guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 06:05 PM
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Good point. I should have said, married her just because she has big boobs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 04:16 PM
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I am a man. Any man would be crazy to marry a woman like this. If she is really and truly not sexually attracted to me that is fine but we shouldn't be together. It is just like a guy who only likes a girl because she is good in bed. If there is nothing else, then there is no real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 08:24 PM
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OP with all due respect, why are you asking this question. Women always say they prefer the guy with little experience and then sleep with the guy with tons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 05:31 PM
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Most guys want to be the exciting sexually attractive guy because most guys know that the guy she chooses after she has "had her fun" she is just choosing because he has money and would make a good father. Or something similarly stupid. Typically she has minimal or no sexual attraction to this poor SOB. I love women dearly. It is one reason I am purple and not red pill. But women and men truly are from different worlds and have vastly different expectations and different desires in a partner. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 05:16 PM
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I wouldn't but let's get totally real. If most guys woke up tomorrow and could make the same kind of money sleeping with girls as attractive women can make sleeping with men, they would get into this. Men are hypocrites in this respect, especially the hard core RP men. They complain about this but most of us men would do the same thing if we could. As to the carousel, if men could sleep with a large number of random sluts and then find love later in life we would do the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 10:03 PM
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I would love it. I would feel very flattered even if I decided not to ask her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 09:28 PM
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I agree. You are totally right OP. They are lies. Unless they are paying the women this is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 08:19 PM
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Men are right and women are right. Biologically men and women are different and that is just the way things are. Men are attracted to what we are attracted to and women are attracted to what women are attracted to. The way you felt, when you were in a sexual haze is the way young guys guys feel 24/7. But it is a bit beyond that. We don't have any need to get to know women or whatever for us to get turned on. Bang one glance and if she is halfway attractive we would happily go to bed with her imm…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 06:16 PM
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I don't care about a woman being a slut. One of my friends is a 7/10 who is a kind, thoughtful person and at the same time a huge freak and a huge slut. She is married but her marriage is open. Her body, her life, her decisions. Now I would never seriously date or marry a woman like this myself. There is a difference between being friends and actually committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 06:09 PM
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Yeah, it is ridiculous. I don't care what dating standards women have and I am tired of the campaigning against our standards of beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 08:23 PM
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You make a very good point. I think OP is just ranting. What it boils down to in my mind is certain things are drastically easier for men and certain things are drastically easier for women. Nobody has it easy in life. Relationships are where nearly all women have it super easy. Things related to safety and also making money are where men have it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 06:42 AM
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No this is definitely not the case. Nobody cares if a woman is like 10 pounds overweight but if a woman is 100 or more pounds overweight this is unsightly and unattractive in my book. No matter what society says or doesn't this is not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 02:51 AM
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Not sexist. But depending on how you pull it off, the woman might consider you creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:02 AM
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No. Think the top 1% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 07:25 PM
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Yes and I am sick of it. I love women but let's get real. Women like men are people. There are good women and bad women. There are good and bad men. Your sex doesn't determine whether you are a decent human being or not. What I see from the mainstream media and many feminists is this narrative that no matter what a woman does, she is a victim of some man. A woman shoots an innocent man. It is his fault. A woman decides to use her sexuality to get ahead. It is a man's fault. Fewer women enter STE…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:14 PM
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Look. You are confused. Sugar babies claim all the time they aren't having sex. This is far from uncommon. This claim that they are being paid for dinner, paid to go to the movies or whatever. I can't really blame them for lying, no woman wants to be considered a whore and there are a lot of judgemental people out there. I will be honest with you, anything is a possibility. Anything. I could wake up tomorrow walk outside and someone could give me a million dollars. A regular computer nerd virgin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 06:19 PM
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It is super common in certain parts of Florida, LA and basically anywhere where there is a large number of attractive women. Incels and forever alone men want sex with women. They aren't looking to pay simply to have lunch with women. Look, believe what you want. Believing in platonic sugar babies is like believing in Santa Claus. If you want to engage in self-delusion it is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 07:20 AM
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I know sugar daddies and I know sugar babies. In New York, you throw a rock and there are like 10 sugar babies. But beyond that, I am a guy. We don't pay for friendship. We just don't. I can have a platonic interaction with a hot woman for free whenever I want as can all guys. Even the biggest loser guys, the most Omega guys, basement dwelling virgin nerds have attractive female friends. It is like someone saying that a Victoria's Secret model would pay men to ask her out on dates. It is obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 06:07 PM
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Look. Some women lie. There is no such thing as a platonic sugar baby. Sugar baby equals pay for play. Period. Sugar babies lie about what they do and the money they make all the time. All the time. They make less than they say and do far more for it. The very idea of platonic sugar baby is a delusion that certain women like to believe in just like virgin nerds who live in their parent's basement believe that a super model will come and marry them. I mean both scenarios are about as likely. Sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 07:25 PM
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I would never do this. I value my job, no sense in getting fired for trying to get something I could get somewhere else
/r/seduction15/11/17 07:06 PM
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Well being able to pay your way is a start but it is better to make more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 10:58 PM
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Yeah. Many if not most women can't. Part of being masculine is making more money preferably way more money than your wife. It is being taller and stronger. It is being strong emotionally and in control. Being strong is NOT being manipulative or abusive. It is being a rock for your woman. My problem is with those that seek to hide these facts from young men and end up ruining their lives. That is my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:08 PM
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You are a great man. I am sorry, if a woman has the right to know a guy's entire sex history and ruthlessly and unmercifully judge him on it, I don't understand why a man can't decide that certain things in a woman's history are deal breakers. I find it ridiculous how if a man doesn't want to marry gang bang Barbie who has slept with hundreds of guys he is "insecure" but at the same time women have the total right to judge a man about HIS sexual history. For those who are upset with OP, let's sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 03:07 AM
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It is ridiculous. If you fly somewhere and decide to have sex with someone and do so, this isn't rape. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:26 PM
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Everyone has their history and I don't expect women I am dating to be virgins. Nothing wrong with a woman having a sexual history and knowing what she wants. But their is having an n-count and having an n-count. I know of a woman, a friend and lovely person but her n-count is too much for me. Nothing against her but I can't deal. She was a stripper and escort for about 15 years and in addition to that was hooking up with 2-3 other guys a week that weren't paying her, so her n-count was well into…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:25 AM
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Women don't hate these men. Women are picky because they can be. They have sexual access to men that are 9/10 and 10/10 so why settle for regular guys? Men are about 10x less particular as to who they have sex with than women are. It is not something to be angry about, it simply is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 07:06 PM
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Yeah, things would be horrible for the average or below average women. Horrible. In the dreamworld utopian vision OP describes, no man would settle for an average woman. None. Once you take love and respect out of the equation why all we are looking at is looks. And if all we are looking at is looks why settle for plain Jane when you can get a model
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 04:54 PM
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I am black and have seen the same phenomenon. I don't share this enthusiasm for fat white woman but I understand what is going on and once you understand the SMV marketplace it makes sense. In terms of the sexual marketplace black guys are, as a group, low value. Average looking black guys are very low value and hot, ripped black guys have a higher value but are still low value. Some black guys have the idea that they have to have a white girlfriend. Well that is fine, love is love, but their SM…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 10:21 PM
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I would say he is a lesser alpha. An alpha is not a crazy person who has to be in control constantly. He can take orders. But he isn't a pushover. Let me give you another example of a beta. A guy I know purchased practically front row concert tickets for a girl he had a crush on and her sister. The three of them went to the show and of course she thanked him, but the move is completely beta. Nothing wrong with buying tickets for a woman and her sister if you are in a serious relationship which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 12:31 AM
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That's awesome! I am happy for you both. As you can see I am not an adherent of TRP. I like some of their ideas and reject other ones. Having said that, a beta male is not a natural leader like you are who is in control and knows what he wants. That is what we call alpha. Even if you are primarily a leader in your life but choose to follow her in regards to certain things you are still alpha. A beta male is a guy who most women describe as nice. He is a nice, respectful and has a good job. He li…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 11:30 PM
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Well more power to you. If you are hot enough, it sounds like you are, women won't care that you are beta. The rest of us have to work on our pickup skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:55 PM
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UAE goes too far. I don't believe in sentencing women who have been raped to jail and women do deserve equal rights.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/17 03:47 AM
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Well, if we are not going to judge women, than men shouldn't be judged either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:32 AM
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I don't believe anyone should be judged for their partner count. Women shouldn't be shamed as sluts. Now having said that, men shouldn't be shamed for their sexual history either. If a guy has hired sugar babies, visited hookers or even far more disgusting and worse in the minds of many women, he is an older male virgin, if we are not going to shame women, men should also not be shamed for THEIR sexual histories.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:35 AM
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Great point. It is hypocritical. Men and women have their deal breakers and nobody should be shamed for their deal breakers. Everyone knows women are turned off by men who are virgins and to a much lesser degree men who have visited prostitutes. And men are turned off by women who are unfeminine, grossly obese or are total and utter sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 06:07 PM
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It should be legal. Have never been to a hooker and don't plan on it. But as I said in my earlier post, it is a woman's choice what she does with her body. I know numerous girls who are in the sex industry and not only are they not trafficked they know of nobody who is. They do it because of the easy money. They make more in an hour than they could otherwise make in a week. As to the men, I don't judge them or care what they do. It is their lives and their decisions. I believe many feminists don…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 05:42 PM
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Nothing wrong with being nice but the problem I see, is that men are brainwashed by Hollywood, family and friends to believe​ that if they like a girl they should be nice to her. Nothing could be more wrong. Again, nothing wrong with being nice but women aren't sexually attracted to men because they are nice. They don't want to have any kind of romantic relationship with men because they are nice. I am nice to my friends of both genders but I don't do any extra favors for my sexy female friends …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 03:33 AM
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No. Rape should NEVER be legal. It is a horrible and evil crime. But at the same time, we can't let women run around falsely accusing men of rape left right and center. We need to enforce the existing laws, dealing with libel and dealing with perjury. Women, like this one, who clearly lied, belong in jail. In jail for a very long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:20 AM
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Doesn't matter. The fact that he was accused means his life has been changed, in a huge way for the worse. People will always consider him a rapist and he will not be able to get certain jobs because of this false accusation. Just look at the effect this had on Coby Bryant and his career.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 05:00 PM
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Exactly. I agree with OP. What is the solution, the alternative that BP is presenting as a viable alternative to seduction manuals and schools. I know many feminists rail against these but at the same time they have no real solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 02:05 AM
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I agree. Most girls are not gold diggers and just want a relationship with a good man who is as successful as she is or more so. But success isn't the only thing they are looking for. A handful of girls I know are gold diggers / whores and honestly I don't care whatsoever as long as they are honest. It really is their life, their body, their choices but my problem is when women are gold diggers and pretend they aren't. One of my friends is a stripper and sugar baby. She is beautiful, sexy and ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:37 AM
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No. She could have taken off her clothes and started engaging in sexual activities by accident. So therefore it is still rape in the minds of some. Look at the story below. Girl takes her clothes off, gets in bed with him and begins having sex with him. Later accuses him of rape because she thought he was someone else and having sex with him was an "accident" and he was a "rapist." Just because she took off her clothes and began engaging in consensual sexual activities with him he "should have k…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 11:44 PM
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I am 100% against rape but your argument is ridiculous. If a woman decides to go home with a guy, decides to take off her clothes, decides to get in bed with a guy, if one thing leads to another and they end up having sex and she never says no, yes that is not rape. Get it through your thick skull, men are not mind readers. We can't read your mind. If you come up to our apartment and start engaging in sexual activities we think you are giving the green light for sex unless you clearly and unequi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 01:14 AM
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Well whatever. I hope they either find one of the rare women who are OK with submissive guys or become OK with a one sided open relationship where she gets what she needs from alpha men while extracting resources and support from the submissive man she is dating. Look, women don't respect doormats. They just don't find these men sexually attractive. At some point you have to grow a pair and set clear boundaries. I know of a couple guys who are this way. Love their girls but they are submissive. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 06:22 PM
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People shouldn't be mad. I think it all boils down to how you define fat. There are tons of attractive women that are a few pounds overweight, not sticks but a healthy weight. Or perhaps a small amount overweight. Well whatever. And them their are girls who are morbidly obese, 150 or more pounds overweight. Don't hate this, it is simply unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 05:17 PM
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I would stop talking to girls and simply observe what they do. The most popular guys I have seen women chasing are men who have a reputation as ladies men with the high n count that goes along with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:00 AM
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Nobody has it easier. Both have their unique challenges.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 07:21 PM
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Very funny. All strippers are not engaged in pay for play but most are. Guys don't spend hundreds on VIP service simply to look at a beautiful woman and not touch her. Please, get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 06:35 PM
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OP can explain his view of being yourself and he makes some valid points but when men are told to be themselves that are told to continue doing whatever they are doing and not change. That is usually what men understand when they hear be yourself. And that is truly awful advice. Men need to stop being emotionally vulnerable and emotionally available. If they have had relationship problems, if they have only had sex with a few women, if they are virgins or have had sex with sex workers, they need…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:50 PM
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In my life, about 50% of the women who accused a man of abuse wee lying. It is a common problem which you see especially when a relationship breaks up for one reason or another. Or when the woman cheats and is ashamed of this, them accuses either her husband or the guy she cheated with of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 11:12 PM
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No, no, no. You are asking the wrong questions. Most woman aren't looking to simply have one night stands with a variety of different men, they want a relationship and that takes work. If a woman simply wants a one night stand with an attractive man, that takes no work. She just needs to show up. The amount it takes is about equivalent to the amount of effort it takes for a guy to become an orbiter, barely any effort whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:39 PM
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This is the bottom line. I don't believe in shaming men or women, but there is a double standard because practically any women can easily have sex with tons and tons of attractive guys. Through Tinder and other apps, women have a huge supply of guys to choose from. So it is absolutely no accomplishment for a woman to have sex with some random attractive guy. That is why nobody praises a woman for sleeping with hundreds of guys. It is just like a rich guy having sex with hot escorts. It is no rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:37 PM
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Yeah completely agree with OP. Yet another reason why I am not RP. Women are different. They share certain traits in common but like men are pretty diverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 03:34 AM
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Truth Both sides are really right in this debate. Women don't settle because they want a good father, an ambitious successful guy who loves them. They aren't going to settle on this or many other points. But when guys think about settling they are talking about settling in the SMV department . And women do settle when it comes to the sexual attractiveness of their long term partners. They think, he doesn't make me hot like Chad did but he has these other great traits, he is a great father, has a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 07:50 PM
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Of course every woman is different. But the majority do like bad boys. Just look how the "hot felon" got millions of likes from women and your average straight laced, hard working black nerd in college struggles to get and keep a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 07:24 PM
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It doesn't really matter. Many women express attraction to and sleep with men who they describe as bad boys and/or jerks. It is not us describing this way, women describe them this way. It is our challenge, as men to copy the successful things such men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 07:20 PM
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You are right and OP is right. Male and female sexuality is different. When women talk about a top 10% or top 5% guy the package is looks, alpha behavior and money. That is what puts him into that category not just looks. It isn't simply looks like men. If we see a hot chick going down the street us men are DTF immediately. We look at her and that's pretty much it. A woman's top 10% man is a rich, hot, masculine man with power. Then she gets wet for him and the phenomenon is similar to a man see…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 01:34 AM
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Yeah, you are right. Sex work pays significantly more than any other work a totally unskilled woman would be able to get. And I agree with you, it can be the path of least resistance. Due to the personal nature of the work and the fact that most women aren't interested in this work, it pays very well. Most women don't want to have sex with men they are not attracted to. There has to be a huge financial motivation to get them to do this willingly. It is just the way things are, it is supply and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:41 AM
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If truly the "past doesn't matter" why would it matter? If men should accept the past of women who have had sex with hundreds of guys, women who have been escorts, women with four different kids by four different fathers, all of whom are now in jail, why shouldn't women accept men's past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 05:27 PM
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Sounds foolish. Being vulnerable chases most women away.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 09:48 PM
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No offense OP but this is unbelievably terrible advice unless women already consider you hot. If most women already think of you as hot you can get away with a lot. Let me give you an example. I used to work with a very nice guy who happened to be a manager, over 6 feet, ripped and what 95% of women consider hot. Not only physically hot but also successful as well. He was very blue pill and I remember when he first start dating his now wife, an 8/10 he definitely put her on a pedestal. They have…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 09:42 PM
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I am, as I said before, totally against sex trafficking. Now having said that, due to economic pressures, people can feel coerced into doing tons of things they don't want to do. For example, some men have no interest in construction. It is hard, back breaking, very difficult work. Yet due to economic pressures they do a job they hate. As to prostitution specifically, I knew a woman who was behind in her bills and decided to turn some tricks to catch up and to be able to better provide for her f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 02:16 AM
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You make some great points. I agree with you, people can be misinformed and they truly don't always see the disconnect between the two ideas. As to sex work, I too have never have partake and I could never see myself getting involved with this. I think people only hear the horror stories and they don't realize that there are a lot of relatively normal people who are into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 12:56 AM
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I get where you are coming from as well. But even with sex positive feminists they still consider these women to be victims to a degree. Because if a woman is truly making a decision to be a sex worker and if a feminist truly supported that decision, why would they express condemnation and hate for men who hire these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:34 PM
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Nobody is talking about involuntary sex work or any other form of human trafficking. I am purely talking about consensual choices made by adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:17 PM
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No. No. She wasn't stuck whatsoever. She was making tons and tons of money, well over 6 figures for doing a very simple job. Her mother helped her with her website. She had full choice and decided to do it. What other profession can a hot blonde 20 something with no college education and no real skills get $300-$500 an hour? None outside the sex industry. The appeal of this industry from the point of view of women in it, is the absolutely obscene money they make for doing barely anything. If any…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:12 PM
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My point exactly. These sex positive feminists are only sex positive when it comes to female sexuality, not male sexuality. If they truly respected the choice of a woman to engage in sex work, they would respect the right of a man to buy the services of a sex worker. But they don't and this is hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:01 PM
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So a woman is incapabable of simply deciding, on her own free will to be a sex worker? It has to be the fault of society, or the patriarchy or a result of "misogyny." See this thinking is what I am talking about. I am not a misogynist and I reject it 100%. But women at some point need to be responsible for their decisions. Example. One girl I used to know a few years ago was into the BDSM community, she worked as a Dom. I don't care what her job was. I really don't. In my discussions with her, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 06:47 AM
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Of course they exist. And more money should be spent on rescuing them. It is absolutely and utterly horrible. Sex trafficking is beyond disgusting and evil. But I am not talking about trafficked women. I am talking about women who are making the decision to engage in sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 06:42 AM
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Well yes, everyone has the right to shame everyone else about anything. It is free speech. But what I find objectionable and hypocritical, is when we hear endless talk about women making their own decisions and then when a woman make some decision(s) that some BP man, woman or some feminist disagrees with, we see a blanket condemnation of men in general and more specifically a blaming of men for the decision that some woman made. That is where I object. I don't care what decisions women make, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 06:17 AM
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I am not RP so BP is not simply not RP. I would describe blue pill as what you see in most advice columns, a lot of what you hear in many gender studies classes in college, what you see in Disney movies and various politically correct TV shows and plays.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 06:08 AM
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blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:58 AM
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Who cares. What it boils down to is male and female sexuality are different. There are a large number of factors that determine whether a guy is attractive or not, not only or mostly looks. The determining factor, in terms of attractiveness with women is looks. If there was a market for fat, unattractive women on TV shows, you would see these on TV shows. But we don't because both men and women would prefer to see an attractive woman as opposed to an obese unattractive one. A woman can get any n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 05:11 AM
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his loss of sexual power: if a man loves you, he will see past your fast approaching wrinkles and sagging skin. He will remain sexually attracted because he loves you. But the guys on the street who used to whistle? They don't give a shit. Wise words from a wise woman. The right man loves his woman for who she is, not because of the way she looks when she is 20 or 30. He really loves her as a person. A woman does lose her sexual power when she gets older, but it doesn't really matter if she has …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 06:50 AM
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Sorry, when it comes to acting and modeling, both men and women have to be attractive. They both have to rely on how sexy they are. This is more true for women, but it is true for both men and women. Nobody wants to look at an ugly model whether that model is male or female. Men and women have advantages and disadvantages. While being sympathetic to the feminist movement in some ways, I'm sorry, there is no way to have ALL of the advantages of being a woman while at the SAME time, having all of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 06:33 AM
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Not RP. I believe women and men can be friends and I reject any kind of physical or emotional abuse of women. Now having said that, feminist language is extremely confusing to not only RP men but a lot of other men as well. A lot of feminist positions are contradictory. For example feminists complain about sexual images of women, but when I go through my Facebook and Instagram feeds, many of the lingerie, bikini and nude or partially nude pictures were either taken by the women themselves or wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 04:38 PM
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What it boils down to, in my mind, is not what women say, but what they actually do. One of my female 8/10 friends is married to an extremely dominant, alpha male, extremely masculine leader. He loves, respects and cherishes her, but he is definitely the dominant leader. He is basically the opposite of a male feminist. They love each other dearly and after 10 years of marriage she is still DTF whenever. Another very dear friend of mine is a liberal feminist activist. She married a guy who was a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 06:19 PM
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Because so many women have such an extreme negative reaction towards these guys, most guys don't want to identify as such. That is one reason. A second reason is I think a lot of male feminists try to use that fact to try to pickup women. They are suck ups that agree with everything they say in order to, they hope, get a shot at sleeping with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 06:09 PM
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Men and women deserve equal rights but are not the same. Being a promiscuous woman is super easy. It is almost like falling off of a bike. For a man, it is much more difficult because women are FAR more picky as to who they sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 07:06 AM
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Yeah, the misogyny is one reason I reject it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 05:49 PM
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All the misogyny from RP. Yes there are certain RP strategies for attracting women that work. But no need to be a misogynist or to consider women children. And women are individuals, all women are not like that. You can say many women do certain things but I reject blanket statements saying they all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 06:58 PM
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This is irrelevant. Look, let me be totally blunt with you. Us RP and PP guys have absolutely no interest whatsoever in being the "nice guy" who women refer to as "great catches" and "wonderful dates" but are about as sexually attractive to her as one of her girlfiends or relatives. Any guy can get a girl for a purely platonic relationship whenever he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:42 AM
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lfriends and wives, but don't enjoy casual sex as much as men enjoy sex with strangers, and I believe there is weight behind the slut shaming argument. But even if it's a socially intranet truth, it's still a truth. Plus, you can't downplay how much more difficult it can be for women to ac And surveys show that many women consider 80% of men "below average."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:34 AM
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Yes. Women consider it low value. A man who is able to have sex with a ton of women is high value. A male virgin or a guy with a small N count is unbelievably and totally disgusting in the minds of many women. They may or may not admit this, but at the end of the day, they feel how they feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:31 AM
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Not RP. I am PP and for a while I was extremely unhappy about this. Eventually I got over it and moved forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:28 AM
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No. If a guy is bi he is bi. If he is gay he is gay. Alcohol or no alcohol. I have no interest in other men whatsoever. When I drink I have no interest in men whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:24 AM
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No. This concept doesn't exist for men. It exists for women but not us. If a man is being "used" for sex, this increases his value. More women consider him attractive. In other words, if he had purely sexual relationships with 20 women, women generally would consider him SIGNIFICANTLY more attractive than a guy who didn't generate this kind of attraction from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:22 AM
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Both people need to contribute to the relationship. I don't believe either partner should be given a free ride. If a man is successful and therefore she doesn't have to work and he is paying for everything, she should take care of him. This doesn't only include regular sex, it also includes fixing food and taking care of the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:20 AM
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Yeah. Men refer to certain women as whores. But it is a totally different ball game to smear a woman as a prostitute who sells her assets on the street and fabricating evidence framing her as such. In the process destroying her relationship with her boyfriend and other people in her life. It is just cruel and barbaric. As to women and their exes, it is disgusting when men smear their exes and it is disgusting when women smear their exes. Both sexes are guilty of this adolescent behavior but for …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:14 AM
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Nobody said they worked for all, all that matters is they work for many. I too disagree with lying. I am a fan of Alan Roger Currie and the honest, direct approach. But my larger point is BP and feminists bash these things yet have no alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 03:15 AM
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I don't agree with misogyny and obviously not every woman is the same. Obviously women shouldn't be degraded (unless they consent.) Now having said that, while I understand your point and there is too much misogyny in the RP community, some of the techniques definitely do work and that is why it is so popular. Women and BP men object to some of the more far out and misogynistic crap that sometimes get posted but at the end of the day, where is your workable alternative to RP and PUA for a guy wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:01 AM
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Yeah, agree times 10,000. People don't look at who is in front of them and are too quick to jump to conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:06 PM
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Beautiful women, like everyone else, have their share of problems. One of my friends is a 12/10 super hot model type. She has only a handful of male friends and I imagine things must be difficult for her on the dating market. Yeah, she can get any guy with a pulse between 18 and 80 to date her. But how does she know that they like her as a person. It is like they look at the body and don't see the kindhearted, smart, generous woman inside. I have SO much respect for this girl. And no she isn't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:03 PM
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This is absolutely true. There are advantages and disadvantages to being female, as their are to being male. One of the advantages to being a woman, especially a young, white woman is your interactions with police are going to be drastically different than the interactions between police and your average white man. They are going to let things slide. If you commit a crime your sentence is going to be far less than that a man would get. You basically get treated with kid gloves. And the term fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 04:40 PM
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If someone wasn't convicted of a crime, they weren't convicted of that crime. Do you think it would be OK to publicly shame a woman as a street prostitute if she had never been convicted of this crime? If not, why is it acceptable to smear men. The fact that she texted him, told him she missed him and wanted to have sex with him in the future tells me all I need to know. I know guys who have been smeared by their exs this way and it pathetic and transparent. Real victims deserve our support, lia…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 09:33 PM
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Exactly. Men and women are truly not speaking the same language. We are saying words but certain words mean totally different things to men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 07:54 PM
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Great points OP. This is the problem women face that men just don't understand. Yes, they can get casual sex but what they want, for the most part, is a real relationship. Being a FB for a woman is like being an orbiter for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 06:16 PM
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I am not RP but I am going to answer. At their core men are masculine and in past centuries they were much more masculine than they are today. The reason, today, they can't simply be themselves is because most of them have been so brainwashed and misprogrammed that they have lost touch with their masculine self.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 05:35 PM
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Of course, how typically blue pill. Blame every guy who has had trouble with women for his problems while at the same time providing no real solutions. And criticizing any solutions he does find. That is why I am very happy I discovered the PUA community and stopped listening to BP nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 09:56 PM
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Go to youtube and look at the Connor Murphy channel. He has tons of videos of himself picking up girls. He just shows up, takes off his shirt and they are very clearly turned on. And this holds true for large varieties of women he approaches. He barely says anything and they are ready to go to bed with him. Women may not have the sex drive of men but they do have one and it gets turned on when they see guys they think are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 09:46 PM
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Too ridiculous for words.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 09:37 PM
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A. Without a doubt. One of my friends met and fell deeply in love with a wonderful woman while in high school. He got a job, moved up the corporate ladder and when he was making like 200,000 / year he treated his woman like a queen. And she deserved it for staying with him through thick and thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 09:33 PM
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Well whatever. I did finally figure everything out many, many years ago, but what delayed my development was all the BP BS that society fed me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 08:52 PM
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Yeah. That is the basic, fundamental idea. And I see nothing wrong with that. Men like feminine women and women like masculine men. I think the problem with society is when men are misled into believing that women like feminine men. That is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 07:54 PM
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Not all, but tons and tons would. During the 1990s, did all men want to sleep with Pamela Anderson? No. But the vast majority did. It is just like Jeff Seid and his fellow members of his Aesthetic bodybuilding crew. Wo u ld every woman want to sleep with him. No. But the vast majority would.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 07:25 PM
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Yes, my point exactly. I was told the nice guy lie and the looks don't matter lies as well. When women say they love nice guys they are thinking that they like alpha, hot and preferably rich guys who are nice to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 04:51 PM
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No my friend. You are confused. When I was very BP my idea for a first date was picking a girl up, giving her flowera, telling her how pretty she is, being emotionally vulnerable and open etc. These traits drive women away. It is no wonder why I was an incel. I was actually turning off, disgusting and actively driving women away with my BP beta behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 04:45 PM
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No. I reject t the sexism and misogyny expressed by some RP guys so I am not RP. But let's get real, the BP Disney movie advice that guys have been fed simply doesn't work for the vast majority of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 04:41 PM
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Yeah I totally agree. This was the point of my post a few weeks ago. BP truly has no solution, besides what you have said. Ultimately I think the BP believes in a form of social Darwinism where men who are bad with women should suffer and accept their fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 05:30 PM
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Who cares what we men think of. Who frigging cares. Yes we think about having sex with various women all day every day. Ladies, if you are even halfway attractive or even if your not, tons of guys, including many of your straight male friends have thought about having sex with you and also countless other women. In nearly all cases we aren't acting on these thoughts so stop worrying about it. Moral of the story, stop communicating your sexual thoughts and fantasies to women. Why cause them to fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 07:07 PM
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I don't know. It would depend on how the n count is. I know a girl, a sweet, kind person, attractive but she has an n-count in the thousands. Besides being promiscous, she worked as an escort for several years. If I were dating her and she presented herself as some average girl with an n count of 10 who grew up in the church and then I found out her history it would be an instant dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 07:29 PM
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Yeah. That is why I say bad boy. I don't want a woman who considers me unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 08:35 PM
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Exactly. And some women are angry that more and more men are wising up to this and refusing to be Captain Save a Hoes. That is why there is this irrational anger about men becoming better at attracting women. Women who engage in this behavior are losing their plan b guys. Look, I love women and everyone makes mistakes. But there is absolutely no way I would ever be some woman's plan b. Never. I would rather be single my whole life than be some woman's backup plan, some woman who doesn't really l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 08:33 PM
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This is the male translation of her advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 04:59 PM
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I think Sheryl has the right to say what she wants and women have the right to date who they want. Now having said that, I refuse to date bad boys leftovers. You can forget that. We all have the right to make whatever decisions we want, provided they are legal. But we are all judged based off of our decisions. It is the height of idiocy for a man to invest resources into a woman who is settling for him, isn't genuinely attracted to him and is simply using him for his resources. If a woman is gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 04:33 PM
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Yeah. I love women but I don't listen to what 99% of them say they want in a man, how men should behave on dates, how men should attract women, etc. What they say they want doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is who they are having sex with. If a guy is successful in getting women to decide to sleep with him he is doing the right thing. If women are not having sex with him, even if they are dating, he is doing the wrong thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:05 PM
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Smart. Because beauty eventually fades, intelligence doesn't. One of my very dear friends was a 11/10 model when she was younger. Now she is in her 60s so she doesn't have the hot 20 something body anymore. But she was and still is, extremely intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 01:25 AM
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I agree with you, it is ridiculous. But it is a fact that a lot of white men, especially southern men, have a problem if their girl has slept with a black guy. In this example, it wasn't one, it was hundreds. But your point is a good one. I have no problem with my girlfriend having slept with any guy of any color in her past, but just this random, hooking up and continual cheating with any guy she has been with, a long continual pattern over a period of several years I consider a massive red fla…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 01:07 AM
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Sure as long as she accepts my right to have my political views.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 05:56 PM
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Let me explain this. Men and women both like to travel. There are some Instagram models that primarily travel all day and appear to have no real profession. They picture themselves next to private jets and brag about the fancy jewelery and luxury items they have. They have all this despite having no real job. Women like this are having sex for money. End of story. Guys don't fly women around the world and give them things for any kind of platonic company. It just doesn't happen. Don't believe me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 05:53 PM
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No. No. No. Men aren't looking to women to protect them. Men do the protecting. We are OK with dating a weak woman because a woman's role is not to be a protector so the fact that she is weaker is a non-issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 02:08 AM
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I wouldn't be complaining if the two sides were SMV-equivalent (yes, I get that sperm is cheap and eggs are expensive, but that doesn't mean the market has to be artificially inflated to be even harsher than normal--"sperm is cheap and eggs ar Yeah. And THIS is the crux of the problem. Women can easily get men that are far, far more attractive than they are, so why settle for someone with an equivalent SMV. What women don't realize is the dual nature of the male mating strategy. Sure, we will sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 02:06 AM
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It is horrible. A true beta male is not sexually attractive to women. They may date or even marry him because he is a "good guy" but they aren't truly attracted to him and don't really respect him. I was very blue pill and very beta in my younger days, not surprisingly every woman thought I was a great catch, wonderful person, nice guy, etc but none of them had any sexual interest in me. In fact I was an incel. When I discovered pickup and became more alpha, stopped being beta and stopped orbiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 09:41 PM
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Exactly. And the men were fit and attractive. There is no way that women would have gone for an equivalent guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 09:20 PM
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True. But she is bombarded with attention on Tinder and other dating websites. Even fat ugly women have multiple guys who want to date them. Let's compare that to handsome, overweight guys with average incomes, who can go several months or even years between dates
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 04:07 PM
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You can have anyone for a ONS if you are female and are a 3 or above. A lot of thirsty guys out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 03:59 PM
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She might tell him bits and pieces. Probably will trickle truth it to him. I understand why, with her history most men would have trouble taking her seriously. And it isn't like she is model material anymore, she is about a 4/10. Another thing. Whoever she marries would have to have a decent amount of money. She used to look like a model in her younger days and basically has lived most of her life in the sex industry. So she has few skills outside of this, her boyfriend would have to help her ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 03:12 PM
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About a year. Before that she was hooking on and off for about 10 years. I am happy you would date her, she is a great gal that deserves a great man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 01:54 PM
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Everyone has their history and I don't condemn a woman totally if she had a wild phase years and years ago. But having said that, there are limits to all things. For example a female friend of mine is a wonderful girl, tall, slender, blonde, quite attractive and friendly. But her number is in the thousands. This includes random hookups, for example she went through a streak where she was hooking up with 3 or 4 different guys a week, every week for a few years. She also worked as a hooker for sev…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 01:34 AM
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Ok. So no guy ever checks you out? You get no messages for months on end on your OK Cupid and Plenty of Fish profiles? You go weeks without being approached by any men? Perhaps you don't get as much attention as some other women, but compared to a man, you are bombarded with attention. One of my good friends is a 5/10 girl. We were talking one day and she told me that she got so many messages in her dating profile it would "be a full time job" to go out on dates with these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 01:20 AM
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Look, alpha behavior is masculine, strong, dominant behavior that attracts women. I don't care whether some consider this behavior being an asshole or not. I don't care what anyone says, it just doesn't matter. All that matters in the end is if women respond in a positive sexual manner to such behavior. That is ALL that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 09:56 PM
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I have never seen a hooker, thank God. But I doubt the kind of guy who is seeing a 6/10 hooker is holding out for the perfect Stacy. What women really can't understand is how difficult it is for even an above average guy to pickup even an average woman. Women are just constantly bombarded with attention and a guy has to work hard to stick out of the crowd. Again, we aren't talking Stacys, we are talking average women. If he wants a hot woman this is dramatically harder. While I never have and ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 09:50 PM
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Yeah. This is 100% accurate and totally true. Women really have no clue when it comes to this dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 09:43 PM
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Yes, they will get better if they work to improve themselves and improve their skills at pickup.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 06:49 AM
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Yeah, they don't like casual sex as much because their sex drives are completely different than a man's. There is nothing wrong with women being women and men being men. We certainly have equal rights but we are not the same. Your point, which is that a woman's sex drive could equal that of a man's if she was dating some super hot, super attractive guy that is a top 5% or top 1% man, like George Clooney is a valid point. It is a valid point, but it is also so unlikely as to be irrelevant. Men ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 06:39 AM
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No. No nice clothes. Regular clothes. Average dress, does her makeup, hair is usually in a ponytail, doesn't dye her hair, etc. And let me clarify something for you. She is perhaps a 3 or 4, AFTER doing all this. She has a great personality and is a very nice person, but just way too overweight for me. Guys just don't care as much when it comes to who we will have sex with. Relationships are a different thing. Yeah, we have standards for women we get in relationships with, but sex? With some guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 07:25 PM
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A world where men are honest with women and women are honest with men. I don't mean honest in a hateful, bigoted, misandrist or misogynist manner. I mean very tactful and honest discussions about what men want and expect in a relationship and what women want in a relationship. Men should respect women and women should respect each other. Women should be respected and shouldn't be discriminated against or otherwise abused because they are women. But at the same time, because they are legally equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 09:35 PM
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I see. Ok. You make some great points and I see your overreaching point, which I think is correct. You are saying that if a girl is with a guy she considers very sexually attractive, she wants to have sex with him a lot. Yeah, I have seen that and I understand where you are coming from. One of my friends is married to a typical alpha male, strong, tall dominant "hot" guy and even though they have been married a long time, she is still clearly sexually attracted to him. Where I am coming from, is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 09:30 PM
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I agree. It is hypocritical. Men are attracted to what we are attracted to and women are attracted to who and what they are attracted to. All the social justice campaigns in the world won't change these things. Women need to stop shaming men over what we find attractive and men should accept the fact that women are attracted to ruch, muscular hot guys. Men need to work towards being these extremely masculine, dominant, rich and hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 08:59 PM
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Well I believe in being upfront and honest. Men need to be completely honest with their plates so there aren't any hurt feelings or missed expectations. Now having said that women are looking for a man who other women are attracted to. They aren't looking for a guy who is the center of her universe, he has to have options and then pick her. So you have plates, the women know you have abundant options, you pick the girl as a girlfriend you really want and you both are happy together. .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 04:58 PM
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Never. If you don't want to be married, get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 03:57 PM
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Totally and utterly agree. Things are getting just ridiculous. And I have guys in my social circle that are similar. Good guys, looks are fine, that make decent coin but women don't want to date them long term because they can find someone better. Where I agree with TRP is to solve this problem, guys need to get in better shape, dress even better and make even more money and then spin plates. Look, I love women, I reject the misogyny I see amongst some RP guys. Totally reject it. But on the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 03:50 PM
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It is neither good or bad. It just is. And a woman is entitled to any standards she wants to have. Personally, I have no problem being the one who makes the most money in a relationship provided the woman fulfills her role in the relationship. This would include taking care of herself and providing love and emotional support. Relationships are not only sex but a healthy sex life is part of a healthy relationship. I would definitely expect her to take care of me in that way as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 03:32 PM
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It is up to women what they do. All choices have consequences. If a woman doesn't keep her man sexually satisfied he will, almost always get involved heavily with porn and a small percentage of these men will cheat. Personally, if a girl only wanted to have sex like 5 or 10 times a year, I would assume she thought I was ugly and dump her. No reason to stay with a woman who doesn't consider me attractive. In most marriages, the guy makes more money and is expected to provide the majority of the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:52 PM
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Don't hate women, I love women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:47 PM
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Even though I am purple pill, I have to completely agree with you. I have never seen these egalitarian relationships with these male feminist blue pill men last. Sure, women say they love that stuff. But they stay away from these guys in droves and if they fall into dating them, they are sure to dump them rapidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:29 AM
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Nah. Not ignoring women. Even fat, unattractive women are bombarded with male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:01 PM
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Well, I can't say why women pick these guys in online dating and I'm not going to speculate on it. But what I will say that they do. And they chose these guys whether they are picking a guy for a LTR or ONS. And I will further say that many of the charecteristics women use to filter out men are not things that men can control or if they can control them, they are extremely difficult to change. For example a muscular six pack is not achievable by all men and even if a man does have the genetics f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:33 PM
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Not true. A guy has to be tall, over 6 feet, ripped, make at least 100k and have fantastic seduction skills. What if a guy doesn't have the genetics to have an 8 pack or was born too short. Or if he is was born Indian or Asian (no offense intended towards my many Asian and Indian friends, my point is that things are much harder for you guys). Or if he is a black guy living in a rural area. A lot of women will eliminate you from consideration immediately if you are Asian or Indian, even a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 05:34 PM
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I see. Ok. Let me explain. When you think of "men" you are thinking of perhaps the top 10% of men, the guys who are young, hot and often millionaires who have their pick of women. The men who you and all your girlfriends droll over. Things are much harder for the 90% of men. It is almost like if I told you it is easy for a woman to become a top model. Yeah, it is easy if you are born a 10. But how many women are born as 10s. No more than 10%. So my argument would be fundamentally flawed like you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 04:45 PM
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No, no, no. The woman who wrote this article, like many if not most women confuse the top 5% of men with all men. For most men, online dating has made things far harder. Women, even 3s are bombarded with more sexual attention in a week than an above average man would get in a year. There is endless men hitting on them and only the top 5% of men are getting g their pick of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 04:39 PM
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Yeah, that is why you don't tell them. It is just something they don't need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 06:01 PM
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The last thing I will say is this. Women as a group, not individually, but as a group, are attracted to traits that have been successful from an evolutionary point of view. Men are the exact same way. My friend, who is a female psychologist who has counseled countless thousands of women, explained these facts to me. She said that women, collectively, have a strong innate desire for a strong man to protect and take care of them -- and that makes complete and utter sense. It makes sense that a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 06:40 AM
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re attractive sex. So do men want to have sex with 60% of women their age? Hell yeah, women are hot! But men are not as attractive as women (well, they simply don't put in nearly the same time effort and money into looking good as women do) so no, I don't know any women who would sleep with 60% of guy's her age. Then ass on how culture teaches women to repress their sexual urges, don't be a "slut", etc. while it tells men that sex makes them a man.... the result is men who want to fuck everythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 06:38 AM
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Exactly. I knew a model who fell in love with a guy who was shorter than her, but he was very athletic, made tons of money and was alpha as fuck. Confident and dominant to the max.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:59 AM
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The guy with alpha traits will do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:56 AM
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Men who like dominant women. There are a lot of submissive guys and too many guys will put up with near anything as long as the girl is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:53 AM
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The BP tries to blame the victim, buying into the just world fallacy and saying that if he has trouble with relationships then he "really isn't so nice."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:52 AM
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I am just going to quickly explain, since this concept of women and men having equivalent sex drives seems to come up a lot. Zoidbergluver, did you ever run into an incredibly slutty girl. I mean the girl who was very indiscriminate, would have sex with probably 60% of the guys in your school, had a voracious sex drive, would happily have sex with three or four different guys in one week. A girl who thinks about sex all the time. You ever run into a girl like that? Ok. That girl, whose sex drive…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:50 AM
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Yes. True. My sex drive isn't as high as it was when I was in puberty. It is probably 65% of what it was then. But my sex drive is far higher than the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 03:51 AM
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If a woman makes money off of manipulating men in some way she may be a slut. For example, many strippers I know are sluts and / or involved with p4play. There are tons of Instagram models that are sluts and involved in p4play.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 03:48 AM
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Exactly. I agree with you. I agree with the sexual attraction ideas, but I disagree with some of the other theories, that is why I am purple pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 03:42 AM
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Yeah. Exactly. Completely agree. But what you have said, is 100% opposite of what I was taught and what men are generally taught. They are taught this and a million other pretty little lies and it is no surprise they end up incels or at the very best in relationships where their wife settled for them and is not truly sexually attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 03:11 AM
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Yeah. It is kind of irrelevant who they SAY they want. It is actually irrelevant. The million dollar question is who do they sleep with. And since they are sleeping with alpha guys, if a guy wants to be successful, we need to emulate these men. We could talk all day as to why they are attracted to these guys, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 03:05 AM
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Well yes. But she was going through a male puberty. And for the first time she experienced the sex drive of a man. It is funny, she used to be a militant feminist who had all kinds of theories about this and that but after experiencing the hormones of a man, she changed her tune. She isn't a misogynist, but she isn't so hateful towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 02:55 AM
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Yep. I was blue pill. According to polite society, women are attracted to men who take care of them, so I thought that this was what I should do. Take care of them, help them, tell them your emotions and how you really feel about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 02:52 AM
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I'll update my post later with more details. But the bottom line is, despite what guys have been taught by the blue pill, feminists and Disney movies, women want a strong direct, manly man. Not an abusive guy, but a guy who looks good, knows what he wants and goes for it. I used to be extremely shy and fairly depressed. The first thing I had to do is do a ton of work on my own inner game and inner issues. Then I started being way more confident, direct and stopped being so nice to women just bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 07:22 PM
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No sorry. I love women, but there is no way a woman's sex drive is anywhere near that of a man's. No way. There was a recent episode of This American Life about a self described feminist dyke who transitioned to male. He remarked on the sharp increase in his sex drive once starting testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:49 PM
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Ok. What if we aren't athletic. Let's say we are accountants, engineering majors, scientists, etc. Then what do we do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:13 PM
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Yeah totally agree. I am not about hating women or mistreating them. But having said that, being a blue pill nice guy, in other words a feminine guy, is not sexually attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:49 PM
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Agree. I reject the misogyny of some involved with RP, but I do believe in some of the techniques.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:06 PM
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Sorry. We didn't. They were either in LTRs, married or not interested. It was our blue pill, nice guy behavior that was turning them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:04 PM
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Yeah, totally agree. I don't pay any attention to what these women SAY they want in a man. I don't pay any attention at all to this whatsoever. I just observe what they go after. One of my female best friends is fairly purple pill like me. She has been married now, to her husband for the last 20 years. They have two kids who are both in college. Even after all these years, she is still hot as hell for him. And you know why? Because he fully embraces traditional masculine roles and is in touch wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:48 AM
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apex fallacy What?!? You are projecting your mindset, as a female, into us males. No, no, no, no. Men want to fuck 80% of young, slender women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:41 AM
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Yeah, you shouldn't be. And that is where OPs argument starts to break down. Men are judged and shamed like crazy by women for THEIR sexual histories or lack thereof. I remember years ago when I was an older male virgin. Women thought I was unbelievably dirty, gross and disgusting because I was a virgin. Older male virgins are considered incredibly disgusting, I mean a tiny number of women will date a man who went to hookers, like Charlie Sheen, but what woman wants an older male virgin. That is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:32 AM
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Yeah exactly. She never told me her number but I know she had multiple FWBS and was having sex with certain guys she "danced" for extra cash and prizes. She also used to work for a strip club in Canada that is a notorious strip brothel. Don't hate her, she is a lovely person, but I am not going to wife the town bicycle, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:05 AM
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I am not passing judgement on her. She was and is a friend and a great person. Now having said that she was a stripper and escort for a number of years and has slept with thousands of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:57 PM
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Yeah woman are judged by their sexual history but so are men. Women, for example, consider older male virgins absolutely and utterly disgusting. Same with men who have a history of visiting prostitutes. If we are going to stop judging women about their sexual history that is fine, but at the same time women should stop judging men for their sexual histories.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:22 PM
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A girl I know has an n-count somewhere in the low 4 figures. She is now perhaps a 4 out of 10, but in her younger days she was a definite 7 or 8. Petite, blonde, great figure, extremely sexy, nice and thoughtful most of the time, but occasionally angry and bitchy for no reason. She wasn't and isn't a bad person or the devil that some RP men would make a girl out to be, she just used to be a stripper and besides the customers she had sex with, she had an absolutely voracious sex drive, I would sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:09 PM
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ifference is women have an advantage because they value physical traits less than status, so there are things that can make a guy in their league (looks wise) attractive. That doesn't work Totally agree and same thing has happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 02:31 AM
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and a man will kinda hang out somewhat around me without starting any conversation. Then a couple days later other men will comment about me playing hard to get. I went out to a bar once with a group of friends and one man who doesn't typically hang out with us dressed up really That's too bad. It sucks that that happened. I hope you find your Mr. Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 02:27 AM
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The women of PPD mean well, but they can only relate to their own experiences and the experiences of their female friends. That is the world they are living in. It is the same thing with men, we live in our world and evaluate things based off of our own experiences. A woman, even an ugly, overweight women, gets far more sexual attention than an above average guy any day of the week. She even has the potential to hookup with Chads. Young women at their core, fundamentally, don't understand the ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 02:25 AM
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I am male. The rampant misogyny is what I disagree with. I love women, the path to success is with understanding women not hating them or thinking that they are all sl*ts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 09:35 PM
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Well you are an exception. Most women would dump a guy if he had a history of going to prostitutes, even if it was years ago. I find the whole situation kind of funny. While the majority of women are not engaged in trading sexual favors for gifts / trips / cash, etc., a large minority are. In fact there was a survey of college aged women which found 20% would be happy to have sex in exchange for someone helping them with their bills. In fact, there are SO many women looking to trade sex for gift…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 08:12 PM
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No, the only way a woman doesn't care is if the guy is rich and famous like Charlie Sheen. Then they don't care. Otherwise they do care and dump the guy on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 08:00 AM
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Both genders shame each other. Women are shamed if they have too many partners a d men are shamed if they have too few.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:52 PM
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It is probably because he is thirsty and the only way he can keep her is waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 04:49 PM
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This is what it boils down to. I don't care what women do with other consenting adults. It is their lives and their business. Now having said that, I ABSOLUTELY refuse to be Mr. Beta that she is settling for. I refuse. I rather be single the rest of my life than be some guy who is married to some woman who doesn't love him, refuses to have sex with him and is essentially a parasite. Forget that. I have worked hard and long for what money I have and sharing it with a harpy isn't in the cards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 04:35 PM
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Yeah. I agree. It is ludicrous. I see no reason to wait for some sexually experienced girl. The very idea is ludicrous and ridiculous. Would definitely dump. The fact that these girls want these guys to wait despite having been sexually active in the past simply means that they consider these men incredibly ugly and all around unattractive. Why give your all to some woman who deep down considers you unattractive and is settling for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 04:29 PM
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I say more power to them as long as they are both consenting adults. I wouldn't marry a whore but they do provide a necessary service for lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 07:21 AM
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Unless he is rich and / or famius, which changes everything, women consider it a sign of extreme low value. If this guy is so desperate to pay, other women don't consider him attractive therefore why should I is probably the mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 08:52 PM
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Perhaps. She seemed like a nice person and I wish her the best in her life. My point is that a woman can have something like this in her past and still get a decent man. No woman would be interested in a man with even a couple year history of visiting hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 08:27 PM
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It depends on how you define high n-count. I know a girl, a very nice person who has what I would say is a high n-count and while I like and respect her, I would never date her seriously because of this. It is not that I am insecure, I just don't want to be the guy who is stupid enough to wife up the town bicycle. First of all, I am black and love is color blind but seriously she was a pig. This tall, pretty blonde girl had sometimes three or four black fwb who did all kinds of things to her, on…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:14 PM
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This is the absolute truth. I think the difference though is most women want a relationship, not just casual sex. So yes they can get sex anytime they want but what they really want is commitment from a high SMV man. I read a book by a woman, tall slender, in her late 40s but still attractive. Anyway she got a husband despite the fact that she had worked as an escort for 15 years. And yes, to her great credit, she was upfront and honest about this point. Guys KNEW she had been a literal whore an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:52 PM
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And this is why, despite supporting equal rights for women, don't identify as a feminist. This kind of misandrist thinking is far too common in feminist circles. Feminism is to men what the Red Pill is to women. They both hate the other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 10:37 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 10:11 PM
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Many years ago back in my incel days, there were points where I spent a year or two without even kissing a girl (in a sexual way) The following is an admittedly a sexist statement but it is a true one as well, women really have absolutely no idea what it is like to be an incel and how utterly depressing it is to go through a very long dry spell.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 08:27 PM
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No. Absolutely not. There is no way this could be right. The women are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:42 AM
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Ok. Well of course every woman is different. If you are attracted to virgins, more power to you. My hat is actually off to you for giving these guys a chance -- nearly all other women won't. They SAY they will, but at the end of the day, it is just too disgusting and gross. Kind of like the way some men will say a girl can be obese and hot. Yet, you ask these same guys how many obese girls they have dated and the answer is none. Please don't take my comment the wrong way, several years ago, I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:34 AM
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How totally ridiculous. Do you also think that men prefer grossly obese, ugly women over shapely, feminine ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:03 PM
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No. A normal young, non-obese female has a much higher SMV than Chad. Chad has a much harder time getting laid than the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:50 PM
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I am sorry, this is about as wrong as you can get. Virgin women are desirable, virgin men are considered incredibly low value, disgusting and unbelievably unattractive and all around gross. The more women he has slept with, within reason, the more valuable a man is considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 08:46 AM
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For a relationship, the accomplished artist or the PHD student. I am the kind of person who goes for their goals and I am mad attracted to women who have goals and work towards them. For a short term sex fling, of course the model would win.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:05 AM
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Obviously not all do, all women are not the same. But I would say that the vast majority do and that is why it is a trait to develop. Dominant doesn't mean you control every part of her life, but it does mean that you are in control and the leader. You lead the relationship. You take control and are in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:01 AM
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Well, that was the reason they gave him. They told him they weren't interested because he didn't make enough money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:13 AM
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Nope, sorry, I have seen this. Tall guys that have good jobs and are objectively good looking can even be incels. I know a tall, white guy who dresses well and makes nearly six figures and still can't land a woman. Another friend, now married had a huge amount of trouble finding a woman. Just because he was in the medical field, was very muscular and made 6 figures was not good enough. Women rejected him because he was ONLY making in the low 6 figures and they felt he wasn't making enough money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:58 PM
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I am not RP, but you make a good point. No need to be angry at the man or woman. She has a chance to have sex with a 10 man so she is taking it. If a man had a constant deluge of attention from hit models he would never give fat women the time of day. Same thing with hot men and women. What RP on one side and radical feminists on the other side never seem to realize is there are crap things that come with being a man and great things that come with being a man. Same thing with being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:33 PM
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Exactly. Women, truly don't get this dynamic. If a 30 something guy is successful and hot enough to measure up to the standards of this woman, there is absolutely no reason he would chose this woman, he could chose some woman like her but in her early 20s. I think things are especially hard for women in their late 30s / early 40s who used to be super hot in their early 20s. They want to marry the super hot, rich guy that is her age, but if they are hot and rich enough to fulfill her expectations…
/r/TheRedPill02/03/17 05:13 PM
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Women are different. Some women like assholes, some don't. Buy let me further explain. Men see women sleeping with other men who these women describe as jerks, d-bags and players. These women come to us and express anger and grief about these men. Yet they continue to sleep with them. Since we don't listen to words and only look at actions we conclude that women like these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 11:34 PM
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Ok. It sounds like you are female. I am not RP but let me explain as I used to be nice. By nice we mean a guy who regularly and quickly responds to a woman's texts, lends her money, never argues with her, bends over backwards to please ber, gives her rides places, etc. The guy treats a girl like this because he wants her to look at him as boyfriend material. The problem with this behavior is women are not sexually turned on by it and it regulates you to the friend zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 02:38 AM
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Yeah, this is correct. It is male solipism. The world isn't fair and their are tons of men who simply don't care. Or if they care they are so desperate for a woman they will overlook it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 09:55 PM
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Exactly. I reject the misogyny of certain PUA artists / Red pill men but let's get real. There is absolutely no alternative to the PUA/RP culture and teachings. Nearly all mainstream dating advice for men is garbage, tailor made to make men completely unattractive to women, to disgust them and turn them off. If a man wants to handle this part of his life, he needs to study RP/PUA end of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 06:25 PM
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Yes. And THIS is one of the major breakdowns in communication between men and women. Men don't have different definitions of attractive. If we find a woman attractive, we want to sleep with her in nearly all cases. Like 99% of the time if we refer to an adult woman who isn't a relative as attractive, we are sexually interested in her. Ladies, we judge what you consider attractive by what you want to have sex with. If you are having sex with a particular kind of guy, this is a hundred foot neon s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 11:57 PM
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I think there is a basic confusion between men and women when attraction is discussed. Women say they want a nice, respectful, smart guy who will commit. Which is truly what they want. They aren't trying to mislead men. Most women don't hate all men. She wants a man who has these traits who she finds sexually attractive already. So in other words, a hot guy who treats her well, is respectful, etc. What confuses men, is when we ask what women find attractive we aren't looking for what traits you …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 11:01 PM
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Thanks for explaining this. I understand more now. Things can be confusing for men because we think linerally, women hot, want sex with her. I see women are much more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 05:24 PM
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Yeah exactly. The bottom line is you are banging a guy for any reason besides the fact you are overwhelmingly sexually attracted to him and / or in love with him, if you are getting anything material from the transaction you are a sex worker. Am not hating on you, I am just stating a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 11:10 PM
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It depends on how much of a feminist she is. Some are really cool and some extreme feminists hate all men. I know a couple of feminists who falsely accused men of abuse so a man definitely has to be careful with these types.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 05:55 PM
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I know and I agree. The view is totally idiotic and hypocritical. I have observed the same things. What I find especially amusing is how certain women not only look down on sex workers have this visceral hatred towards them and their clients. Yet some of these same exact women trade sex for money, trips, gifts and / or other resources. I for one do not hate sex workers and I believe they have the right to have sex with whoever they want (provided the other person is a consenting adult.) In fact …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:20 PM
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No. Because women and men are not the same and want different things in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 07:47 PM
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OMG. You must truly not understand guys to post a comment like this. Marrying some woman who is genuinely not sexually attracted to you and only sleeps with you if you spend tons of money on her is no prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 05:15 PM
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I know. They just don't want to hurt your feelings and they want to stay friends with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 04:31 AM
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Yeah. Totally agree. I vehemently disagree with the view put out by certain RP men that all women are the same or they all hate men, etc. Obviously there are some bad women but the majority are not evil witches who hate men. Women give out the advice they do because they don't want to hurt the feelings of their male friends who are asking them for advice. That is the primary reason. And the second reason is some guys will never be attractive no matter what they do or don't do. Women just conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 03:39 AM
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Yep. OP speaks the absolute and complete truth. It is not that women are bad or are trying to hurt men. When they give men advice such as "be yourself" it is because this is the advice that has worked for them. They just honestly don't understand the reality of the sexual marketplace. They talk to their girlfriends and their girlfriends have any number of attractive men they can have sex with. I mean there is absolutely no shortage whatsoever. I was talking to one of my dear female friends, a ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:19 AM
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I have to call you out on this. A "nice guy" is often treated like garbage and used for his resources. Every guy should avoid nice guy behavior. As to the controlling guy, obviously women must find these women far more sexually attractive and desirable because they are sleeping with them and not sleeping with nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 07:21 PM
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This is a joke. Women judge th sh!t out of men's N count. Women shame men about their sexual history. Men judge women about their sexual history. It isn't a construct, men judge women because if she was grossly promiscous, she probably won't stay loyal. As to women nit carying, they do care no matter what kind of environment they are raised in.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 07:18 PM
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No. Let me explain OP. I care to a degree about a woman's partner count because if she has a long history of being ridiculously promiscous she is unlikely to be loyal. Let me give you an example. I know a girl, very nice person, smart, intelligent, etc. But she has a huge partner count, think several hundred if not thousands and the idea of having any kind of committed relationship with her is a joke. Why would I commit to get something I can get easily whenever I want. I felt sorry for her boyf…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 06:55 PM
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Yeah. Completely agree. Like vastly more, it isn't even close. Men are FAR, FAR, less picky in this regard than women. Men consider probably 70% of young, thin women attractive. Women consider 80% of men below average and only the top 5% of men truly attractive. The fact is that men need to work very hard to make themselves attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 07:51 AM
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There are tons and tons of women that are 30-40 that are hot enough for sex. Tons. Just because a woman turns 30 doesn't mean that she is not attractive. I think the problem, is that while I consider women in this age range attractive, they have a lot of trouble (compared to younger women who look like them) attracting the top, top tier guys that they want to attract. Let me explain further. A guy who is in his 30s, who is rich, powerful and who looks like a male model has his choice of any of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 08:16 AM
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I think women absolutely deserve equal rights. Women absolutely deserve to be able to live free from violence and harassment. Where I disagree with certain feminists, not all but certain ones, is on three points. First of all this constant insistence that women have little or no responsibility for their actions and are essentially children. Totally, vehemently disagree with this. If, for exampke, a woman murders someone or commits some other horrible crime, she deserves the same punishment as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:14 PM
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Yes. It is possible for men. A man can go YEARS without any woman finding him attractive enough to sleep with. And these aren't ugly guys, it can happen to average guys as well. At the end of the day, women have such a hugely negative reaction to male virgins and incels, the simplest solution, is if a guy has ever gone through such a dry period, to NEVER discuss it with a woman. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 06:52 AM
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That's beautiful. He is lucky to have you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 10:19 PM
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Yeah exactly. And while I am not RP, you truly make their point. The vast majority aren't dating material and only a relatively small number of men have their pick of a large pool of women. My point of view is RP men need to get over their anger and make themselves into one of these top 10% men. THAT is the solution, not being angry or hating women. As to men becoming better prospects as they get older, it makes sense that they would. He would have more resources and knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 10:04 PM
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Yeah. You hit the nail on the head. It isn't about who women say they want or don't want. That doesn't mean anything. It is who they actually sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 08:31 PM
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That's ridiculous. If a man is supporting a woman she needs to support her man. If I were working my gutts out, making six figures, working 60 hours a week and my wife were sitting home all day, there is absolutely no way I would come home and do housework. How ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 07:26 PM
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A great question and the answer is no. The only men who are "doing fine" are the top 5% of men. The rest of us struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 07:29 PM
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Well more power to you. I have a couple of female friends that are the same way. The fact that you have a high sex drive and like having sex with your man is totally awesome. One reason I am purple pill is because I don't believe in shaming men or women over their sexual histories. Now having said all that, I am not a fool and I have seen things go the other way, where a woman marries a guy because he is a good father, has a great job, etc but she genuinely is not deeply sexually attracted to hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 06:53 PM
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Men and women are totally different in their sexual strategies no matter what the politically correct media says. We are NOT the same. Men like to fck a variety of hot women. Most women want to fck high value men and if a woman is a celebrity, her fans are definitely not higher valued than she is in her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 11:01 PM
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Smart woman!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 07:11 AM
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Exactly. I don't care what men or women do. Us men aren't idiots. When we make it, we can tell who the gold digging b*tches are. If we have a greater than two digit IQ, we have our fun with such women and then dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 07:09 AM
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No. No. You are confused. I see your point which makes sense from a female perspective. If the woman is sexually liberated you and her can have an awesome and sexually liberated married sex life. Makes total sense in theory but things don't usually work that way in reality. Let me further explain. We meet gang bang barbie and start dating her. We don't know she is gang bang barbie, she pretends to be modest barbie. We get weekly missionary and occasional hand jobs if even that. She doesn't reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:34 AM
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I am sorry. I am absolutely sick of the excuses. Please put away your violin. I feel sorry for women who are forced into sex work. Sexual slavery is beyond evil and disgusting and anyone forcing a woman into this work belongs in jail for a very long time. Now, having said all that, the fact of the matter is most sex workers in the United States voluntarily enter this industry. I may morally object to prostitution but a free society, governed by the Constitution should allow women the freedom to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 09:24 PM
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Yeah exactly. The rage comes about because blue pill guys, like I used to be, are told that only if they are nice and respectful, one day a woman will notice then and be attracted to their good traits. Of course this never happens. Men wait for years and years getting barely any female attention while players, bad boys and jerks are swimming in p*ssy. The fact that you have been lied to by everyone in your life, holywood, advice colums, everything is just enraging. Of course the real solution is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 05:38 AM
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Exactly. At the end if the day, women don't get wet for feminine male feminists. Feminists like all straight women want masculine men, not girls with a d*ck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 05:18 AM
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Honestly I don't care what women do what their own bodies. I don't care what kind of sex they decide to have or how much sex they decide to have. But I am not going to be the total and utter idiot who is seriously dating her while she is being gang bang barbie every Friday night for a variety of other guys. It is just stupid. From a female perspective it is almost like dating a guy who does huge romantic gestures towards other women. He buys them huge romantic gifts. But for you, his actual girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 04:47 AM
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I reject the misogyny I see from certain members of the red pill community. I don't hate women or want to hurt them. I love women. And part of loving women is understanding them (as much as any man can.) They have their strong points and weak points just like men have THEIR strong points and weak points. I think a lot of red pill men are angry about being put in the "friend zone." Well, instead of being angry about women not being attracted to them, they need to improve themselves, by improving …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 05:05 AM
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Yeah, if men realized that being the "nice guy," beta providers wouldn't get them sex, they wouldn't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 04:14 AM
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Some of them are, and others are "dating" weak omega men and / or extracting resources from these "nice guys" through manipulation. I knew a guy years ago, nice enough person but totally beta who "lent" a model he had a huge crush on several hundred dollars because he was such a great "friend." And last I heard she still hadn't paid him back but he was a "great" guy who any girl would be "lucky" to have. A true "gentleman" and probably a male feminist. No she did not sleep with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 04:12 AM
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I know. Exactly. You are speaking the truth. I don't listen to what women say, I just listen to what they do. All women, even progressive women, expect men to pay. End of story. Feminists / progressive women talk a great game, but at the end of the day, they are women and are attracted to masculine men (if they are straight women) and are repulsed by omega / male feminists / white knights. They just don't get turned on by these guys no matter how much they feel that they should or that other wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 01:48 AM
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I know of another guy who had a similar thing occur to him. He put himself deeply in debt and signed for all her educational loans to put his wife's through school and once she got her Masters degree and a great job she demanded a divorce because she "just wasn't in love" with him anymore. The girl was basically a prostitute and that is why I say this should be legalized so women can just be upfront, straightforward and honest about their intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 11:58 PM
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Yeah. Totally agree. And the reason they have is because of the feminist, politically correct culture we live in. Our boys are actually being feminized and it is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 11:37 PM
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You and OP speak the absolute truth. We just need to legalize prostitution so men and women can be honest with each other. A large percentage of women, not a majority but a significant minority are in the pay to play game. They are looking for a guy to provide some sort of resources in exchange for sex. If that is their game I don't care, they just need to be honest. In all honesty I have for more respect for a stripper or even a prostitute than a "regular" woman who tries to con men out of thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 11:27 PM
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Nobody should hate women for being women or men for being men. We are who we are. There is just a communication breakdown between men and women. Women can have sex with super attractive men whenever they want all day every day if they want it. So sex is far, far less important for women than men. What women want is commitment and what they are thinking, when men ask them what they want is what do they want in the father of their children or something similar
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:29 AM
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You know at least a few sluts but they aren't talking to you about their sexual history. Some of the girls you talk to have in actuality only slept with a few guys. Other girls you know have slept with tons of guys but lie about their sexual history. I remember many years ago, shortly after escaping my incel phase and perhaps a year after losing my virginity, I started dating this girl I met at church. My parents and my immediate social circle all thought of this girl as a low n-count good girl.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 05:15 PM
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Let me further explain. I do not consider myself unattractive, there are women who consider me attractive, I am just not in the top 5% of men. That's all. Women believe something like 80% of men are below average. The top 15% are average and 5% are attractive. You are right even average looking sluts have options, more options than even a top 5% man has. But having said that, they can still find it difficult to get the commitment of the top 5% man they really want. So they settle for beta bucks,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 04:17 PM
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she wouldn't know a lonely night until well past the wall. And yes, some guys would still be willing to LTR her (though those men would be of much lower quality). Why the hell does Well women certainly have the right to do what they want with their own bodies, but more and more guys are wising up. Personally, there is no way I would ever commit to some slut who deep down inside, considers me ugly, repulsive and only wants me because I'm a "good father" and have money. I was talking to one of my …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 08:56 AM
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mating. A woman's is mothering. Women want men who are successful with other women (as much or more romantically than sexually) because their children, if sharing in that trait, are more likely to have more children with more resources/status/opportunities. Simple. Sensible I'm sorry, I have to jump in here. This statement is just patently ridiculous. Women would run if Chad were found to be a virgin. It is probably one of the top turn offs for women. Men are totally OK with female virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 08:27 AM
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It all depends on how you define "easier" and it depends on which women and which men. Obviously any kind of abusive behavior, such as stalking, physical assault, etc. is completely and totally unacceptable and I condemn this 100%. I would say that for your man of average attractiveness and social skills it is significantly more difficult to date a woman that is as attractive as he is. Women are constantly being bombarded with attention from hot men, the attention is non-stop and constant from m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 08:00 AM
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Awww. That is so beautiful. I'm so happy for both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 07:07 AM
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It could. Anything is possible. There is the famous case of Crystal DiGregorio, a former porn star and Christian minister Dave Bassette. They met, fell in love and are now getting married. Obviously, his n-count is nowhere near as high as hers. I wish them all the happiness in the world and I sincerely hope that their romance works out. Now having said all that, these kinds of relationships typically do not work out. Women are incredibly turned off, grossed out and disgusted by low n-count men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 07:04 AM
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Yeah. But it is realistic. And that is why they need to see it. It is better to have the harsh truth rather than some blue pill fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 06:51 AM
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Nobody is saying he is dumb. But we are saying that he is a very masculine man. That is what we are saying. And are also saying that the nice guy male feminist repels women like crazy. Obviously her boyfriend said he supported her, any boyfriend would say something similar. But our larger point, is that despite what feminists say about how it is "OK" if men express emotions and show weakness, women in reality are not turned on by these kinds of guys at all. Emma's choice to date a typically masc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 08:08 AM
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Totally agree. Exactly. The real male feminist who is essentially a white knight, can't get any woman whatsoever to sleep with him. Even ugly women can't stand him and consider him repulsive. It is so funny, even prominent feminist Emma Watson can't stand male feminists. Not surprisingly she is dating a rugby player because women want manly men. While they talk endlessly about "the injustice of gender roles" and other such nonsense, their p*ssy is getting wet for men who very definitely fit into…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 07:05 AM
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This is what boils down to. Yes some of the red pill guys are misogynists and some of the postings are hateful. But mixed in their is some really great advice. I have said it before and I will say it again. If feminists and the blue pill people are so upset about pickup artists / the red pill they should come up with an EFFECTIVE alternative to this. But they don't because they can't. And they can't because at the end of the day, women are attracted to strong, masculine, fit, powerful, high stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 03:31 AM
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Exactly. Completely agree. This whole argument from women that "the past is the past" is ridiculous because they judge the f*ck out of guys based on their past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 06:04 PM
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All men need to watch the 1980s cult film Hot Bubblegum. Strange name but fantastic film. Actually, I take that back, regular men need to see it at least three times and weak, beta men need to see it at least five times until the message sinks in. Basically it is an extremely unusual film in that it doesn't have a hearwarming, blue pill ending. The movie is about a guy who is a beta orbiter who finally gets his chance with his oneitis after she broke up with her alpha boyfriend. He confesses his…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:08 AM
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Exactly. Guys also need to read Mode One: Let the Women Know What You're REALLY Thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 06:54 AM
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No. Your confused. Yes, men look down on male virgins, but women look down on them and don't consider them sexually attractive. They often think of these guys as nice people, for example they can be friends with a male virgin, but she and her entire social circle and their friends would never ever sleep with him because these guys are considered sexually repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 08:26 PM
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Ok. Well women have the right to consider these men losers, but at the same time, men have the right to judge women on THEIR past sexual behavior and consider women with a promiscous past losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:13 PM
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No. You are confused. 99% of the time, the man who is fake nice to the woman never has sex with her. He is led along, buying her gofts, doing favors for her, etc with absolutely no return. He loses.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:04 PM
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True. No man is entitled to sex and no woman is entitled to a relationship or any resources from a man. Now if they are married and he is providing the majority of the resources, yes, she should put out and put out often.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 11:57 PM
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No weak, beta men are the ones who marry gang bang barbie when higher valued men get tired of her. Weak, low SMV men are willing to overlook the huge red flags in a woman's past simply because she is willing to have a relationship with him. Personally my belief is that we all have a past and I am willing to overlook certain things in a woman's past, especially if they happened a long time ago, but let's get real, the past does matter. It matters for women who shame men constantly about their sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 05:44 PM
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At the end of the day, I would take your arguments more seriously if women weren't shaming men constantly about their sexual histories. If the "past doesn't matter" it shouldn't matter if a guy had sex with countless hookers or even worse, is a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 11:06 PM
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Good points. Women shame men about THEIR sexual all the time. If "the past doesn't matter" than, logically it shouldn't matter if a man went to prostitutes in the past or even worse is a virgin. But women shame men about their pasts all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 11:03 PM
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Are you joking? A man can aspire to much more than being the companion of a beautiful woman. Only a total idiot would marry a woman simply because she is hot and wants to have sex with her. If he loves her and she loves him, of course they should be together but otherwise they shouldn't be married. Honestly there are legions and legions of women who want to trade sex for money. Legions. It is a total myth that all sugar babies / gold diggers / hookers are forced into this. If a rich man is incli…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 12:24 AM
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No I am sorry. Your argument is deeply flawed. I am 1000% against violence towards women but I am absolutely sick of men being blamed because women make the conscious decision to be porn stars, strippers, prostitutes, etc. Men who marry these former parry girls are complete idiots. Most rich men don't fall for this BS, you see these women dating countless rich guys only to end up marrying some average beta bux in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 10:44 PM
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Around 90%. Getting sex is to a woman what being able to lift a 10 pound weight at the gym is to a man. Completely effortless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 10:28 PM
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Smart woman. Completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 10:24 PM
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What is depressing is you are absolutely and completely right. Most women respond the way your wife has. Women just don't respect guys that are super into them, they want a guy who will keep them guessing and has tons of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 05:35 PM
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I agree with everything you have said. But having said that I have to disagree with your statement of what feminists believe. I have tons of disagreements with feminism, but my core disagreement with feminism and feminists, is I believe women are intelligent, responsible and rational human beings that should have the same rights and responsibilities as men. At the same time just like men are held responsible for their bad behavior, women need to be held accountable for their bad behavior. For ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:36 AM
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I agree completely. Women have the full right to do whatever they want with their own bodies. Now having said that, I absolutely refuse to be some woman's beta bux. I would rather be single than be a beta bux that some woman is completely unattracted to but marries because I am "stable," and have money in my bank account. Forget that. I would rather be single than some chick's beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 05:28 PM
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In places where it is illegal it definitely isn't. But in places where it is legal, honestly I don't care what consenting adults do, provided they aren't harming others. Have never gone to a hooker but I am not going to shame men who have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 05:51 PM
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I am pro-life and therefore I disagree with abortion. But I don't want to go back to the days when it was illegal and women were dying from back alley abortions. So I hate it but recognize that the best way to handle abortion is to provide more services for pregnant women so it is more economical to have children. There also needs to be more money spent on programs to help families with young children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 12:46 AM
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While I support equal rights and equal pay for women I vehemently disagree with feminism and feminists on a number of issues but I will cover a handful here. First thing, a woman deciding to be a mother is an awesome and beautiful thing. If she wants to be a stay at home mom or work part time while she takes care of her children I 100% support this choice, just like I would support the choice of a woman to become an engineer or a CEO. Despite what feminists say, a stay at home mom or a woman who…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 12:10 AM
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I see no problem with that as long as society doesn't shame men for refusing to marry former or current s**ts
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:05 AM
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It doesn't really matter at the end of the day. There are good and bad points about being a man and the same for a woman. As to the SMP, one of the negative points about a woman is that as she gets older her SMP drops. As a man gets older it can drop but it can also skyrocket and exceed what it was in his 20s. A woman's SMP only goes down as she gets older
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 01:39 AM
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If women are disgusted by and repulsed by men that have been to prostitutes, then they have the full right to not date these men. At the same time, men have the right to feel disgust and not commit to girls who are huge s**ts. If shaming men about their sexual history is acceptable then at the same time, it should be acceptable to shame women about their sexual history. On the flip side, if we are going to have sl*t walks, then men who have visited hookers and virgin men should also have their o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 04:30 AM
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Yes. Exactly. And essentially what men are doing with the TRP/PUA is the male equivalent of a woman getting plastic surgery, working out, dressing better and losing weight so that she is more attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 04:07 AM
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But at the end of the day, the vast, vast majority of guys are not into masculine super muscular women who have much more muscle than they do. Yes, some guys do. I don't deny that men like your friend exist, men are different. Felicia Day is definitely a lovely woman. But Christina Hendricks in my book is one of the hottest women ever. There are always a minority of any group that think differently than everyone else. Tastes vary as people vary. But their are some traits that the vast majority o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 04:05 AM
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I completely agree. I disagree with some of the misogyny expressed by certain member of the TRP / PUA community, I don't hate women or wish them harm whatsoever. But let's get real. The blue pill crap that has been shoved into our heads all of our lives is basically a great guide as to how to be maximally unattractive to women, to turn them off, make them unhappy and want to run away. Our friends and family mean well, but they have absolutely no idea what to do. I have a very long way to go but …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 03:16 AM
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What a ridiculous argument. I am 100% opposed to real rape, but becoming more attractive so more women are attracted to you and thus want to sleep with you is not rape. Do you believe that women losing weight, dressing better and getting plastic surgery so THEY are more attractive, a form of rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 03:01 AM
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You make a great point. All women are not the same. Women are individuals with different ideas of what is attractive. I think, when it comes to TRP/PUA they are describing what most women find attractive. It is like with men, we can say that most men find Alyssa Milano, Cindy Crawford and other famous supermodels attractive. Not every man thinks of these women as attractive but most do. Like there are some guys who think Roseanne Bar is far more attractive than a Playboy playmate. But they are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 06:39 PM
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I agree completely. Game helps but to a large degree it is a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 07:10 PM
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Well I am 100% against any violence towards women. Beating women, killing women, raping women, that is disgusting and wrong. But I disagree with most feminists on two points. First of all, if a woman decides to do porn, become a stripper, pose nude or engage any other consensual activity that involves her own body and her own sexuality, she has that right. Stop blaming men for these decisions. Second thing. Some women do really bad things, commit murder, traffic in hard drugs, commit perjury, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:14 AM
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Yes. Certain feminists believe women should be "rescued" from their own decisions. It is idiotic in my view but it is what they believe. Let's take the example of a woman who decides to pose in Playboy. Well, that is her decision and right. If she wants to do this, that is her decision. But according to certain feminists she is a poor exploited thing that was forced to do this because of the patriarchy and needs rescuing. Or the prominent case of a female porn star that decided to hookup with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:01 AM
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It is crazy. I have absolutely no desire to control women whatsoever. It is one major disagreement I have with third wave feminism -- I don't believe society should control women, they do, they believe they need to be controlled so they don't make "wrong" decisions. I believe in being the leader in the relationship. I am the man and I am the captain of the ship but she is the first mate and her input and view are important. If we have some major, basic disagreement, then we should just break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 09:46 PM
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I would have to agree with this. Men and women have different standards and different things that they consider attractive so they can get confused when judging how attractive they are. What I see with women, is they see super hot guys hitting on them and sleeping with them. Super hot women only have sex with guys they consider hotter, so women think to themselves, wow, there is this super hot guy who wants to have sex with me, I must be as hot or hotter than him. What women don't realize is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 10:57 PM
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It is fraud. I have far more respect for Sugar babies and escorts than women who pull this trick. Many feminists feel that a man lying to a woman to get her into bed should be a crime. Well if that is a crime, this should be as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:14 AM
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Exactly. A successful friend of mine in his late 40s, who is balding and overweight married a model in her 20s. Another friend of mine is disabled yet very successful and he is engaged to a woman that looks like Sofia Vergara -- in her 20s. I see no reason for a successful man to settle for leftovers. None.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:49 PM
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You are asking the million dollar question. Of course they have no effective alternative to TRP/PUA. There is endless criticism but no solution. Nearly all solutions are completely ineffective and in some cases even destructive. You hear the typical advice that women will like you once you are successful. To h*ll with that. If we are successful and wanted some gold digger why settle for some woman who wouldn't give is the time of day in our 20s and now that she is 100 pounds overweight and has t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:16 PM
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This is the most ridiculous comment ever. Yet another reason why nobody takes the word "sexist" seriously anymore. There is absolutely nothing wrong with politely and straightforwardly expressing interest in a woman during the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 08:12 PM
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Are women who force men to give them material objects or money before they will have sex with them being coercive?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 08:03 PM
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Yep. Totally agree. Third wave feminism essentially argues that women are babies who can't make any logical decisions on their own. Anti- feminists like myself argue that women should have the rights of adults and should be treated as adults. My, how things have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 07:55 PM
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In a free society women should have the right to have or not have sex with any other consenting adult. Women have the right to show their bodies as cam girls, that is their right. So from that perspective I support it. Now having said that I don't understand why a guy would pay a cam girl. Doesn't appeal to me at all. Why spend hundreds on some cam girl when you can pay that amount to a sugar baby. The two professions are not similar whatsoever, I am not sure why you are lumping them together. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 05:47 PM
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Yep. According to society, shaming men about their sexual history is OK but if you shame women you are a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 05:36 PM
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I completely and utterly agree. I have struggled with attracting women my entire life and I only started to get a bit of success is by studying PUA stuff. All other advice such as Dr. Nerd Love, various books on self esteem, advice from my friends and family was almost completely unworkable and even destructive. Women like what they like. Men like what we like. Nearly all women are not aware or feel afraid to talk about, what they really like and what they are attracted to in a man. Thus the nec…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 07:25 PM
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It doesn't really matter. We just don't prefer girls who aren't whores. It is just the way us men are. Women feel a deep disgust for men who are virgins and find this super disgusting. Why do men not want to have long term relationships with whores and why do women feel disgust with sexually inexperienced men? Probably learned evolutionary behavior but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter, it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 07:09 PM
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Women think men like this are weird. Tim Tebow is an exception because he is a rich athlete.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:41 PM
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Women should never lower their standards. They should only date men they are genuinely attracted to and want to have a relationship with. If they are simply dating a guy because he has money, they are nothing more or less than escorts. If a woman and man have that arrangement and agreement then more power to them. But it isn't a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 09:11 PM
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You are saying the absolute truth. Couldn't agree with you more. Part of the confusion between men and women is when men say attractive or unattractive they think purely in terms of physical appearance. We don't take 13 billion traits into account when we consider whether a woman is attractive or not. For a woman, many traits factor into whether a guy is attractive or not. Two guys can look the exact same way, dress the same way but the guy who has slept with tons more women is going to be consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 03:56 AM
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No. No. You are confused. Women are attracted to hot, tall, rich, sexy men that are good men who treat them right. Where men run into trouble is they thing simply being good and treating women right is sufficient and it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 06:41 PM
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She has the right to whatever preferences she wants to have. But when women all expect to be able to snag the rich tall guy with a six pack who will be loyal and commit, nearly all of them will be disappointed because less than 1% of men fall into that category. Sure they will sleep with her but they won't commit. The difference is, while men may prefer the blonde Playboy model they can and will marry the above average pretty girl and they can be satisfied and happy with her.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 09:32 PM
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Women who have been raped deserve our compassion and support. Same with women who have been trafficked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:56 PM
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I don't think it is totally useless, the problem is men and women are speaking different languages. Our thinking in terms of sex and relationships is completely different. Women, even fat and unattractive women, can have sex with any of a number of attractive men anytime they want. It takes almost no effort for a woman to get an attractive man for sex. So they aren't looking only for a hot sex partner. So their relationship advice is all from the point of view of what traits should a guy have in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:36 PM
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I know. I don't get it either. The desperate mindset is similar to that of guys who try to form serious relationships with strippers, escorts and sugar babies. They literally let their women be sexual playthings for other men. Well whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 11:41 PM
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Yeah I have heard that story over and over myself. In all honesty I personally could only look at such a girl as an easy c*m dumpster. I wish them the best in their life together, but from my view those kinds of girls are transparent. There is absolutely no way I could take a girl seriously if she is clearly only after my money. In all honesty I respect sugar babies and escorts way, way more than these types.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 10:44 PM
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Sorry you are confused. I am black as well and I live in America. Most American white girls aren't interested in forming relationships with black guys, like the majority of black girls don't daydream of forming long term relationships with white guys. Yes all women are into hot, rich celebrities. Pretty much any girl would date any celebrity of any race. What I am talking about is average guys and average girls. I have never been to South Africa but the European, Australian and South African wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 10:28 PM
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I don't care who a woman dates or doesn't date. Strictly her business. But at the end of the day, it is important to pay absolutely no attention to what a woman says she wants and instead look at who she dates and who she hooks up with. Women are disgusted with male feminists and they have the right to consider them unattractive, weak and feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 10:45 PM
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You are a racist idiot. There are good down to earth women in New York and LA. There are stuck up women in the bible belt.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/16 02:00 AM
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You are a racist idiot. There are good down to earth women in New York and LA. There are stuck up women in the bible belt.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/16 02:00 AM
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OP with all due respect you are deluded. You have no idea what you are talking about. It is about 20 times harder for an average guy to attract an average looking girl than vice versa. My point of view is women like you that are critical of men and how they attract women to develop a WORKABLE system for attracting women and teach it to these men. That is a workable system that doesn't involve men spending countless thousands of dollars getting "life experiences."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 08:27 PM
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It is real and it does happen. Being beautiful is not life on easy mode. It is just different mode. Beautiful women don't have problems that average people have. I have a friend who is a super hot model and basically she has her choice of any guy she wants in a ten mile radius. She certainly has no problems from that respect. But she has problems that other people don't have. For example, do these guys love her or just her body.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 06:55 PM
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OP As a former older male virgin, I completely agree. To be a male virgin or a relatively inexperienced guy is incredibly shameful and unbelievably depressing. There is a complete lack of validation, a feeling that no women truly consider you desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 10:43 PM
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Women don't think that men have the right to call them sluts, slut shame them and thus judge them unworthy of commitment. My larger point is that everyone has the right to judge everyone else and that women shame men as much as men shame women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 10:26 PM
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Guys won't commit to a slut and women won't have sex with guys they view as nerds / virgins / men with few previous sex partners. Everyone has the right to whatever standards they have. Men judge women based off their sex history and women do the exact same thing. Everyone judges everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 06:59 PM
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He should face additional charges but it isn't the same thing. A woman falsely accused of lying about rape and doesn't have to go to jail in nearly all cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 06:24 PM
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Totally agree. I spent years and years being led in circles by women. I don't think that they are intentionally trying to mess up guys with this kind of horrible and contradictory advice but this is often the end result. This is why I never ask women any questions regarding what they want in a man or what they find attractive. Nearly all advice from women to men regarding relationships is not only useless it is actually destructive. So the simple solution is to observe who women actually date an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:56 PM
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Yea. Because women can have sex with attractive men whenever they want. It is literally about as much effort for a woman to have sex with an attractive man as to drive to Starbucks and buy a coffee. The amount of effort for your average, STEM major man to have sex is about as much effort as it would take to drive from Florida to Canada. Can be done but the time and effort that need to be done are huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:34 PM
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Sex is to men what commitment from high value, rich, high status men is to women. You are right it is not simply commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 07:10 PM
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No.sorry. Male and female sexuality is totally different. They are acting this way around men that are in the top 1% of all men and also most women have no interest in male strippers. Most men are interested in female strippers for sex. Where women are hypocritical is they don't like men judging them for their looks but they judge men all day, every day for not only their looks, but also money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:26 PM
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Either the women are too busy or more likely, are simply lying about their status. I have a friend who dated a girl years ago, a "good, moral" Christian woman who refused to have sex with him on moral grounds. Turned out she had, had sex with other guys before and then after him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:04 PM
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OMG. With all due respect, you must be female to be so disconnected from male experience to write something like this. I have worked with these STEM guys for years. The most common reason they are virgins, despite sincerely trying to form relationships, is women for the most part simply not attracted to them. Women have absolutely no frigging clue what these kinds of guys go through. No clue whatsoever. And that is reason 1,564 why I believe these kinds of men must never be honest with women abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 09:57 PM
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What I have observed is women are attracted to guys that are already hot who happen to be smart. Especially men who are hot, rich and smart. Like look at how many women are attracted to Elon Musk. Where men fall down is we think that women are primarily attracted to intelligence like we are primarily attracted to looks. This is absolutely not the case. It is a nice bonus but not the primary thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 09:48 PM
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Yes. Just look at how women went crazy over the so-called "sexy felon."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 09:34 PM
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My question is, why are so many women attracted to these types of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:51 PM
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I see. You make great points and I agree. I think we are both basically in agreement. If you walk into a restaurant and act like a civilized human being, uou follow the rules of the restaurant and are polite, there is no reason you should not be served. However, if you are rude, offensive, an a-holes and don't respect the rights of others, obviously you would be kicked out. As to the morality of prostitution, it is not something I could do, but in a free society, consenting adults have the right…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:54 AM
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With all due respect, this is propaganda. The vast majority of female sex workers, outside of street walkers, are making the choice to engage in sex work. It is so funny, feminists demand equal rights for women, but when they decide to become, for example a stripper, this is somehow a man's fault. Do women have free agency or don't they feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:52 PM
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I agree with nearly everything you said, however while a woman should have full agency over her body, the men are paying for a service. Just like a bakery, barbershop, store or any other business has the full right to refuse service to anyone, so do prostitutes. But they can't take the money and then refuse service to a paying customer. The guy should get a refund. As to feminists hating prostitution, honestly I feel that feminists consider all women pure, defenseless helpless things that are in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:29 PM
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My parents yes. Most parents no. I think dating has become e completely lopsided in favor of women. Even the ugly, overweight women are bombarded by countless messages on tunder, OK Cupid and other sites. An above average guy gets perhaps 25% of the attention from women that an overweight, plain GI gets. That is why the old standards for men are no longer workable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:15 PM
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It is ridiculous. She was not a stick but she certainly wasn't obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:27 PM
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I am not into this. Dominate her yes. Hurt her no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 07:43 PM
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Rhode Island had leagalized prostitution for a number of years. Rape and STIs dropped sharply after this. But of course, since we are in America and everyone HAS to be super puritanical, it was later re-criminalized. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/07/17/when-rhode-island-accidentally-legalized-prostitution-rape-and-stis-decreased-sharply/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 03:33 AM
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Legalize it and regulate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 12:37 AM
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I am purple pill but I'll answer this question. Women and Men have great qualities and both have horrible qualities. For example one of my friends is a 10/10 woman who has won countless beauty contests. Yet instead of trying to live off her looks she works in the non-profit field in order to protect the rights of children. Despite her appearance she is not a stuck - up princess at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 11:15 PM
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The guys are clearly a holes and what they did was completely unjustifiable and messed up. Now again, we NEED to teach women to not get black out drunk a d go home with strange men. It is just a recipe for trouble. It is like myself walking around certain at 3AM in certain parts of city that are known high crime areas. Yes, it is not my fault if anything happens. Yes I should be able to do this. But in the world we live in it simply isn't safe. And it is the same case with women who get totally …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 06:34 AM
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I would say women consider it pretty disgusting. Check out this article http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/it-happened-to-me-i-ended-up-in-bed-with-a-27-year-old-virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:46 PM
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Women are considerably more attracted to these men and pick them over low N count men so they must consider them better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 07:53 PM
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No way. Would rather be the one working. Most women lose sexual attraction towards male house husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 07:51 PM
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Both concepts are idiotic. There are good things about being a man and horrible things. Same with women. Both sexes have their advantages and disadvantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 07:47 PM
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You are asking a good question. In a perfect world their wouldn't be this stigma but we don't live in a perfect world and their is this stigma. It is actually beyond stigma and goes into the realm of flat out disgust. If a man is a virgin or hasn't had enough sex partners women look at him the same way a man would look at a grossly obese woman who spent years as a prostitute and slept with countless thousands of guys. The emotional and gut reactions are the same. Women march in so-called slut wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 07:31 PM
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Yeah, I completely agree. Certain Christian women are some of the biggest hypocrites when it comes to this sex thing. They all want a "good Christian man" but at the same time, if a guy has not slept with tons of girls, they consider him a disgusting reject. Years ago, I remember one friend of mine, a young, beautiful Christian woman who was dating a militant anti-Christian a-hole. She knew the guy was an a-hole. I remember one time he even infected her with an STD. Once the condition was cleare…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:14 AM
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No. He needs to lie to the woman and never, ever tell her he is a virgin. Women typically look down and are disgusted by virgins. I am not shaming them for feeling this way, they just are this way. Female virgins are treasured, so if a woman is a virgin she can say this. What are the optimal conditions for losing one's virginity? For a woman, within a loving relationship. For a man, any condition is completely OK. For example, if he loses it to the town slut that is acceptable. He just needs to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 02:34 AM
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It is an evolutionary thing. Women are attracted to high status, dominant men. Men are attracted to sexy women. Feminists and other social justice warriors talk endlessly about how men should be attracted to overweight, obese women and women should be attracted to weak, sensitive, feminine beta males. Well, this is simply not the way things work in real life. The sooner we abandon feminist and social justice warrior political correctness the better. We should never shame anyone because of the wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 02:26 AM
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This is the most BS statement I have seen in a long time. There is absolutely no symmetry between the amount of sex men and women get and if you think there is you need to stop taking hard drugs. A woman can get sex no matter what she looks like from some attractive male, basically anytime she wants. A man has to make himself into a top 5% male to have even 10% of the options a female 7 has.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:17 PM
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I don't believe in leagues. Anybody should approach anyone. And if a girl or a guy for that matter is too immature to let someone down gently they are simply a rude POS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 04:17 PM
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I am not blaming men or women. What I am saying is that if women want men to be uniformly good in bed they need to talk to these men and tell them exactly how to please them. If they are totally unwilling to talk to them and tell them, how else are they supposed to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 04:15 PM
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If they are, then the best has now become the average. What I don't understand is why women complain about men not being good enough when, in all likelihood, they aren't good enough for better quality men. And to actually answer your question and o Yes. And reason 152 why I believe prostitution should be legalized. There is NO way for a guy to become great in bed without practice. You get it. Reading books can only do so much. Women refuse to tell a man what they want in bed or they lie about wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 08:13 AM
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Yeah, us guys are horrible in bed. We should be able to read a woman's mind and automatically know exactly what turns this particular woman on. We should know that just because a long term girlfriend likes X in bed, it doesn't mean that the girl we are with likes that as well. God, why don't we use our telepathic abilities to know what you are REALLY thinking. After we do that, we need to tune up our crystal balls so we know what is going to happen in the future. Seriously, your article hits on …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:50 AM
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magazines had the luck of having naturally thin bodies but they also work hard and eat vegan and other shit to not gain we More power to you. What the red pill and blue pill people both do not want to face is the factor called "free will." Some of my female friends are just absolutely drop dead gorgeous. One of my good friends is a literal beauty queen. She has won countless beauty contests. Is she living off of her looks? No, she got married and got a job as a teacher. Most of my super attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:53 AM
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Not true. I know several super hot women who work hard and make their own money. These women are not hookers or looking for a man's one whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:53 AM
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It is up to women what they do or don't do. If I were a woman, I couldn't do it but it certainly shouldn't be illegal. In case you don't know, a sugar baby can get definitely get thousands each month. But she is being paid to be an on demand f*ck doll. So what that means is yes she may get $3,000 a month but she has to be down sexually for whatever the sugar daddy wants whenever he wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:45 AM
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It is up to women what they do or don't do. I couldn't do it but it certainly shouldn't be illegal. In case you don't know, a sugar baby can get definitely get thousands each month. But she is being paid to be an on demand f*ck doll. So what that means is yes she may get $3,000 a month but she has to be down sexually for whatever the sugar daddy wants whenever he wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:45 AM
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No. I wouldn't give her my paycheck. And on the flip side I don't expect women to give men sex because those men are nice. Nobody is owed anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:39 PM
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Let me explain. The way men and women value sex is very different. Obviously you wouldn't accept a man that is constantly cheating on you. You are right to feel that way and it makes complete sense. If I were you I wouldn't either. But let me explain something that is very confusing to a lot of women. When it comes to sex and who we want to have sex with our thinking and standards are completely different than women. Hmm... how can I explain this... From my vantage point as a guy, when I walk do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:22 PM
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That's great that you feel that way. And it is great that your friends feel that way. Things change as time passes. Perhaps one day most women will feel the way you do. As long as women value promiscuous men, men will aspire to be as promiscuous as possible. As long as young women have casual sex with players, d-bags and jerks and don't have sex with "nice, respectful gentleman," men will look to these d-bags, jerks and players for advice about the opposite sex. That is really why TRP and pickup…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 01:30 AM
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It is good that that doesn't apply to you as an individual. I remember during my older virgin days, I knew one girl who was not only pretty on the outside but on the inside as well. She was OK with dating virgin guys, but of course she already had a boyfriend... What did the girls say? They said all kinds of things but the primary ones were something along the lines of I like you better as a friend, we aren't compatible, you are a nice guy and you will find someone special one day, etc. That is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 01:22 AM
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Thank you. Yes, it was a long journey. Initially I was "drinking the kool aid" that I was getting from my female relatives, friends and society about how my situation was "OK" and "nothing to be ashamed of." Once I learned, from reading pickup books and networking with other similar guys how much women hate virgins, I put to full use some acting lessons I had taken years ago. I didn't succeed the first time, but as I practiced and practiced, I became very skilled at this. Again, I wasn't lying a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 06:24 PM
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Not at all. It is all cool :) Basically, all the women in my social circle had figured out I was a virgin or had little experience. If they didn't know, as soon as they figured it out, they would usually lose interest. The way I lost my virginity is I found a girl outside of my social circle that didn't know any of my female friends. I started dating her, but I lied to her about my sexual history. In fact I made myself out like a guy who had already had sex with tons of girls. We were laying in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 08:39 AM
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Yes. Exactly. Attractive women are complimented all the time. They have nearly endless amounts of attention from the opposite sex. They have so much attention some of them actually consider that this is annoying. Only the top 1% of men attract as much attention from women as the top 60% of women. The life of the average man is just not understandable to most women. It is not that women are bad and man are good or vice versa. There are good points and bad points to each sex. But the majority of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 08:18 AM
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I don't know is the answer to my question. Despite what TRP says, all women ARE different and perhaps your circle of women is different. What I am relating to you is my own experience as a former adult, (mid-later 20s) virgin and how women not only responded to myself, but how I observed women responding to other men who were similar. For example, the girl I lost my virginity to hated male virgins with an absolute passion. I remember the subject came up one day and she just looked at me with a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 08:04 AM
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Yes, you are right. Having said that, I have only once run across an adult woman (think mid 20s) who was not only virginal/less experienced but also attracted to guys that are virginal / less experienced. One. Out of all my friends, their friends, out of everyone I went to high school and later college with. I have run across ONE girl like this. So while this kind of phenomenon does exist, it is again, so rare to be irrelevant. It is like if I argued that rich, hot celebrity men are attracted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:45 AM
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I understand and I am not judging you or any other woman for feeling this way. My larger point is there are a lot of reasons a woman could feel this way and at the end of the day it doesn't matter why she or any other woman feels this way. All that matters is she does and that women generally do feel this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:08 PM
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Yep. You are right. Have to completely agree and your point is very valid. Men on TRP complain about promiscuous women and how they are not wife material but that is not always the case. One extreme example of this is a girl I know, a nice person, who happens to have a long and extensive history as a stripper and hooker (about 10 years.) When I heard she had a fiance I was shocked. I have nothing against her personally, again, she is trying to move onto a new chapter in her life, but her history…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 05:10 AM
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I know and completely agree. Throughout my life, I have probably worked with (not directly with but in the same building / company as), several hundred of these STEM folks, if not thousands. It is the same story time after time. They graduate college, start making the money and then women who have hit the wall, women who ignored them when they were younger are now magically interested in them. In some cases, these women have children. So now some guy who worked his guts out for years and years, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 04:59 AM
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At the end of the day, men want to be the "hot" guys women want to have sex with. Being the "good guy" that GoodMenProject and other similar sites advocate is a one way trip to a sexless relationship. Yes, the kind of "good" men that these sites advocate men become are good for women, but women typically aren't sexually turned on by these "good" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 04:43 AM
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Nobody should assault women but let's get real. If a woman is wearing a micromini skirt, she is wearing it because she wants male attention. If a woman is dressing like a stripper, she is doing this because she wants male attention. I see nothing wrong with checking a girl out who obviously wants men to check her out. I personally am sick of many of certain deluded feminists. Yes, nobody should harass or assault women. Obviously. But if you are for example, working in a strip club or other adult…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 04:21 AM
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That's great. You are a very, very rare woman to be OK with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 04:02 PM
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It is great that you did this. My larger point is women like you are 1 in 200. Women like you exist but are statistically irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 04:00 PM
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Have to disagree. A beta bux is at least getting part of what he wants. A plate wants commitment and monogamy and is getting neither of these. A plate is actually equivalent to a beta orbiter. A beta orbiter gives and gives and gives and gets nothing. A plate gives herself sexually and gets nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:31 AM
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Yes, I get your point now. And you make a great point. The answers are complete BS for the most part. Women SAY they would date such a guy or that it doesn't matter, but this is simply lying BS. As a person who was an older male virgin many, many years ago, I remember how it was. And women considered it gross, disgusting and repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:27 AM
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99% of women would run. Being incel and being attractive are mutually exclusive concepts for most women. They don't like to say this because it sounds mean but it is the total truth. Please don't delude yourself. Your question is almost like asking a guy, would you date a hot 400 pound woman. The concepts are mutually exclusive. http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/it-happened-to-me-i-ended-up-in-bed-with-a-27-year-old-virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 02:10 AM
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The situations are exactly the same. Nice guys are the equivalent of fat ugly girls. They have as much trouble getting long term commitment as nice guys have getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 01:58 AM
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No guy should think that if he is nice to a girl she will have sex with him. That is idiotic. It is like if a girl has a one night stand with a guy and she now expects him to marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 01:56 AM
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Good points. Many men and women both have unrealistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 01:26 AM
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Because for a man to land a woman he has to not only be good looking, he has to be seductive and a great player. For a woman, she just needs to be pretty for a man to ask her out. Men and women have different strengths and weaknesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:19 PM
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Women do support vulnerable men. Without a doubt. Many women support men who are vulnerable and try to help them through difficult times if they care about the men. Do they find vulnerable men sexy? That is a totally different question. I would say no. Not at all. It seems to be a total turn off. In other words, women will support these men but don't want to have sex with a weak or vulnerable man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:59 AM
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I don't believe AWALT and don't take what I said the wrong way. I am not coming at it from a place of anger, I am coming at it from a place of acceptance. I do believe that there are women like you that are accepting and that is great. I remember when I was a virgin, out of of all of the women I knew and their acquaintances, their were a two or three that were accepting of older male virgins. Of course they both were already in relationships... To answer your question, they come up with super la…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:49 AM
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I don't make the rules. I am not passing judgement on women collectively. I have come to accept that women feel this way. It is like men not wanting to marry extremely obese women. The vast majority of men are not attracted to women who are grossly (over 150 pounds) overweight. It is the same thing with women and older male virgins. Sure if a guy is a 15 - year-old virgin that is OK. But when he, is, for example in his mid-20s women consider this super disgusting and unattractive. How do I know?…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 10:11 PM
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Yes. Exactly. That is my point exactly. If a guy has been in several long term relationships that is fine. But let's say he had only two or three brief relationships, lasting no more than a month and therefore at age 35 his number is 3. Women are disgusted and repulsed by guys like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 09:59 PM
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Well, if you feel that way, you are 1 in a million. Most women like to know so that they can dump the guy immediately. In some ways it reminds me of men asking women about their sexual histories. If the woman was massively promiscuous or was involved with tons of gang bangs or something, men want to know so they can not commit to the woman and rule her out as a girlfriend. Like triggers that go off in a man's mind when he hears about his girlfriend sleeping with hundreds or thousands of men over…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 03:57 PM
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Women don't reveal that they have a high count because it turns off most men. Men inflate their number count because most women find a man with a low count or God forbid a virgin as a major turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 11:31 PM
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No. You are confused. Let me explain in a language you might understand. Let's say your boyfriend dated women in his youth who he treated like gold. He took them out to fancy restaurants, was chivalrous, paid their rent if they were short, listened to them and was overall the best boyfriend ever. Then he meets you. He is deep down inside not sexually attracted to you but thinks you would make a good mother so he settles for you. He is rude, never takes you out and never listens. He is not suppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:29 PM
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It means orders of magnitude easier for even average or ugly women. Any woman can setup a profile on Tinder or OK Cupid and get inundated with male attention. One of my good friends who is perhaps a 4 or 5 mentioned to me her OK Cupid profile gets tons and tons of attention. She actually told me it would be a full time job if she were to date all the guys who texted her. Another friend is a 3-4 and obese. She can get sex whenever she wants. Attractive guys, even those physically in the top 20 pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:12 PM
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Tons and tons. Just because a guy is good looking and has a good job doesn't mean that he knows how to interact with women. There are tons of things that women deal with that men don't have to deal with, but with a woman, as long as she looks OK, she doesn't have to be beautiful or even very pretty. She can look simply OK and attract and sleep with guys. She merely shows up and guys are trying to seduce her. She just has to say "yes." Guys have to not only look good, they have to be in the top 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 07:04 PM
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You are right. To say we don't want to have sex with whores and other bad girls is inaccurate because we do. We just don't want to be the loser she settles for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 02:28 AM
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Let me explain. Yes we are on a certain level attracted to whores. We want to have sex and tons of it with as many attractive women as possible. But only a total omega loser would COMMIT to a whore. You get it? The bar for a guy to have sex with a woman is VERY low. We will have sex with all kinds of women. Our bar for commitment is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 07:39 PM
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At the end of the day, men and women are different. No matter how much feminists want to deny this fact, it is a fact. Women want masculine men that fit into the gender stereotypes of men and men want feminine, attractive women. Their are things that suck about being men and their are things that suck about being women. Not all women want masculine men and not all men want feminine, attractive women. But it is true the vast majority of the time. Many feminists want women to have the advantages o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 07:10 PM
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I have to disagree. I have seen women with a relatively small cup size who are hot as hell and I would be happy to date. Their are tons of women like this. Men's height for women is comparable to several traits in women. Like a tall guy equals a hot blonde girl with a great figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 06:49 PM
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Easiest way is to NEver, ever tell a woman you are a virgin. Never. Lie to her about your sexual history. Sleep with some girls, gain experience. Invent a story about losing your virginity when you were 15
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 01:34 PM
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Yes, because the fact that he is a virgin trumps everything. It makes him creepy, gross and disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 01:06 PM
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You would be surprised. I remember listening to an interview with a former escort and even she wasn't physically attracted to the men she saw. Even she looked down upon men who saw escorts and she was an escort herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 01:03 PM
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That's simply not true. If she is not some whore on the corner, if she is upscale it is very likely she wasn't trafficked. Despite propaganda, most sex workers are not trafficked. Check out the Sex Workers Outreach Project. Read the book Sex Work. If you go to the sex workers sub in Reddit, you will notice that nearly all of them just consider it a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 12:59 PM
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I completely agree. It is hypocritical. Women don't want to be judged for anything in their sexual past. If a woman slept with 100 guys before she was 18, men who judge her are insecure, losers and misogynists. If she is a stripper, sugar baby or even escort we are supposed to accept that this is simply her job and not judge her. Yet if a guy has slept with prostitutes or even far worse, is a male virgin, he is dirty, filthy and disgusting. Women judge these types of men ruthlessly, consider the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 06:09 PM
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I am not into these kind of restaurants and strip clubs have never been my thing. What it boils down to me however is that any man going into these establishments knows he is paying for an experience. Pretty much every guy know that the interest these women show is fake. It is almost like going to a bar. You are paying and therefore the bartender serves you drinks. If you stopped paying they would stop serving drinks. Similar concept. And as to strip clubs specifically, no guy is paying simply t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 05:33 PM
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OP, completely agree with your point. The people trying to say that these guys are losers don't know WTF they are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 05:10 PM
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It is a biological aversion to women who are super promiscous. It isn't society, it is just part of our genes. Straight women are attracted to fit, masculine men. It is a genetic thing as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 12:37 AM
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more sorry for them than any actual respect. No problem with sex workers who do it by choice, neither male nor female - no judgements, but trying to normalize it as "just a job" is stupid. They are choosing a lifestyle, not just a job. That lifestyle affects relationships in the present and in the future, even potential future offspring who will one day find out and make their own judgements. I would go one step further and say that many of them are omegas. I too, don't care what women or men fo…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/16 04:53 AM
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Yes it is to women. Anyone who denies this is completely naive. Money is to women what big breasts are to men. No reason to get upset about this. It just is what it is. Men are attracted to sexy women. Women are attracted to rich, sexy and confident men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 06:52 PM
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So you care about the personalities of porn models before you fap to them and you don't fap to them if they have a lousy personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 05:35 AM
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No. What I am saying is looks is one part of the equation. These poor guys who were male models would of course get women. But you know what? They would get 10X more women than they got in college if they were high powered executives with billions in the bank. Women love hot guys, especially young women. But ideally, the guy would not only be hot, but would be high status and have money as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 05:34 AM
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I suggest you read the book Mode One by Alan Roger Currie. I am not begging a woman for anything or pleading with her. I am, while being polite, being blunt and direct. I am not apologizing for my needs and desires as a man. I am not worshipping her simply because she was born female.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 11:25 PM
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No. Money, status and looks. They want ideally, all there things. Think a hot guy who is a CEO and has tons of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 07:25 PM
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It doesn't bug me for you to say it, say what you want. It is just patently false. It is like saying the sky is green. You have the right to say it but it is completely and obviously false. If women had the sexual apetites of men we would see as many male strip clubs as female strip clubs, we would have just as many male escorts servicing women, we would have tons of male porn magazines being consumed by women. We would see the vast majority of women putting out after knowing men for only an hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 03:46 PM
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Women and men are simply different. You get it? It is not that we are socialized to be different, we just are different on a biological level. No amount of socialization, protests, talking or other indoctrination is going to change this. Women are not only turned on by a hot body, they are turned on by various behavior and the status of the male in question. So the porn equivalent for women is romance novels. Women reading romance novels and getting turned on is like men masturbating to porn. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 03:39 PM
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She decided it would be easier to try to find another sucker. See, that is why men need to, while being polite, be totally upfront, blunt and honest with women as to their desires and intentions. It helps you avoid becoming a sucker / mangina / beta orbiter. An acquaintance of mine "lent" a model several hundred dollars. She knew he was head over heels in love with her before she asked for the money. He didn't even get a good night kiss for his effort. Don't be that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 06:45 AM
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Yes. He should be totally upfront and straightforward. Every man should read the book Mode One and live by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 08:39 PM
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Up to you. I wouldn't want to deal with it since it is illegal where I am. But perhaps if it were legal and socially acceptable I would give it a shot. I see nothing inherently wrong with it provided both people are consenting adults.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/16 11:16 PM
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Up to you. I wouldn't want to deal with it since it is illegal where I am. But perhaps if it were legal and socially acceptable I would give it a shot. I see nothing inherently wrong with it provided both people are consenting adults.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/16 11:16 PM
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I see. We are basically in agreement in that case. I know women don't like to communicate directly that is why I am, while being kind, upfront and straightforward. I heard a story about a girl who was trying to use her sexuality to get some poor chap to get her a flight to vegas. He said, of course. Let's go to the hotel and tomorrow morning after we spend the night together in my bed, we can book the ticket. One appropriate response to these kinds of requests.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:04 PM
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More power to you brother. Yet another reason why I believe prostitution should be legal. Your experience is far from unusual. Women just have no interest in helping men become better lovers for the most part and the simplest thing for everyone involved, would be a place where men can get the necessary experience before they sleep with "civilian" women. It is great to read Sex God Method, but to get really proficient takes practice.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/16 05:11 AM
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I'm don't have "wishful" thinking. I just refuse to do unusual, huge favors for women who are not close friends, blood relatives or women I am having regular sex with. If I have been dating a girl for six months and she needs help moving, well, I'm fine with helping her. If some random girl wants a "loan," "help moving," or something similar, I am not going to be providing this. If, in the future, she either becomes a close friend or woman I am having regular sex with, then of course my point of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 05:02 AM
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Yes they do and my point of view is that they are free to do or try to do anything they want. Now having said that I have been manipulated enough over the years to know when a woman is being insincere and I can call her out. My view is if a woman who is not a blood relative or someone I am sleeping with on a regular basis wants a "loan," "help moving" or something similar I am going to need something concrete in exchange. Look. I am a guy and I have a strong sex drive. My view is that women and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 09:29 PM
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What a ludicrous argument. Yes definitely easy if we want to pay. But easy in terms of having our choice of women to have sex with for free? Hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:53 PM
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I don't agree with everything or even most of what I read on TRP. But having said that, there is no real alternative to TRP / PUA. Women and some men criticize it and there are some parts of it that deserve criticism. But my view and my question is if it is all so bad why don't you come up with a workable alternative. You can't and you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 10:19 PM
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The short answer is it what it is. Incels, who are primarily male, are mocked by both men and women. Women consider them totally gross and unattractive just because they are this way. A guy can look fine, can be in shape and well dressed, he can be kind, but if he doesn't have enough sex experience women will run away and be disgusted. Yet another reason why I believe prostitution should be legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 10:16 PM
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Yes. But they are a tiny minority. Just like there are some men that find grossly obese women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 09:04 PM
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What absolute crap advice. It is like saying you will get rich if you sit at home and stop working. Women mean well, they just don't have any clue. It is like talking to someone who has never cooked about how to cook. They might have good ideas but probably have a lot of crap ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 12:52 AM
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Horrible. But this is why you don't get in bed with someone you don't know and trust. Someone who loved, or at the very least cared about you, wouldn't violate your boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 11:46 PM
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A lifelong loving marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 11:23 PM
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It is common advice and it is absolutely worthless. If a guy is having trouble attracting women like I was several years ago they absolutely DO NOT need to be themselves. They need to emulate the traits of a Chad and shape themselves into someone who is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:41 PM
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True. But it isn't only that. One of many things I took from thr entire PUA / Red Pill is the value of status and pre-selection and methods of faking this. I don't believe in hating women but some info is definitely valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 04:52 PM
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Well when rape is being redefined by feminists as any sex, including consensual sex when a woman is intoxicated, well yes they shouldn't drink. According to feminism, if a woman has a couple beers and later goes home with a guy he "raped" her. So if we are to avoid women drinking and deciding to go home with random men, what feminism calls rape, women shouldn't drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 02:22 PM
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Women need to take responsibility for their own actions. If two people get drunk and have consensual sex it is not rape. All this feminist redefining of rape only harms victims of REAL rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 01:55 PM
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Yeah. There is some misogyny among certain proponents of the red pill and I certainly reject that. I am not a fan of Roosh. But if a guy is struggling with attracting women there is no real alternative to PUA, Red Pill and similar forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 01:49 PM
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No. They don't. Some things are easier for men and some things are easier for women. We all have different challenges.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 04:05 PM
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It is a good question. I don't agree with everything I see in the Red Pill, but at the end of the day there is NO real alternative for men who want to become better at attracting women. I went to church every Sunday, I was a "good" Christian who would "make a great catch" for some "lucky" girl. I listened, I was nice and respectful. I did all the "right" things to do according to the blue pill and polite society. As a result I ended up the absolute last person in my social circle to lose their v…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 07:45 PM
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Exactly. You have to transform yourself into the kind of guy she has NSA kinky sex with. You don't want to be the beta bucks she settles for and gives duty sex to once every month.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 07:30 PM
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A friend of mine who is married had to stop wearing his wedding ring at work because so many women would see it and then hit on him. The amount of women hitting on him has dropped sharply since he stopped wearing his ring to work. So this strategy definitely works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 01:48 AM
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Women and manginas do encourage it. There is in truth nothing wrong with being nice. The problem comes about when Hollywood, women, manginas and male feminists push the idea that if a woman wants to have a relationship he should be nice to her. Men get this message, assume it is true, do all these overboard things for her and nothing ever works out the way they expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 07:19 PM
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No. Not unless they are physically in the top 10% of men, have tons of money and / or status. On thr other hand 99% of women can have sex with an attractive man within 48 hours. That is why studs are praised and slut are shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 04:31 PM
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Yes. But reading doesn't take the place of practice. I could read about how to fix cars from now until the end of the world but I could only become a competent mechanic by actually fixing a lot of cars. Same thing with sex and women. A man will only become good by having a lot of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 06:49 AM
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True, nearly all do. But there are places like the Society Service in the Netherlands that will provide this service if a man really does want to learn and is willing to put his ego in check. Of course if a guy just wants to get off as quickly as possible, he could always hire a girl for that as well. At the end of the day, I just don't care what consenting adults are doing behind closed doors, provided they aren't infringing on the rights of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 06:47 AM
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This beings us to the catch 22 of many men today. Women refuse to tell us what they like and then tell their friends behind our back that we are "bad" in bed. Now her friends and their friends won't date us. But how are we going to get better if no woman will talk to us and explain to us what she likes. That is why I support legalized prostitution. Guys can pay to become good at this and then we don't have to inconvenience women with this "burdensome" task.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 06:53 PM
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This is a textbook example of solipism. This guy has no clue what he is talking about. It almost reminds me of people who are born rich and have never had to struggle a day on their lives. They run around thinking of themselves as better than everyone else and saying that the poor should just "go the bank and get a loan of millions of dollars" so they aren't poor anymore or some such nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 06:49 PM
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True. But the female sex drive is not near what the sex drive in men is. The two aren't comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 06:25 PM
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Perhaps uour experiences are different but I have never seen a woman extrodinarily sexually turned on by a "nice guy" or "good guy." And men who are older male virgins should never ""be themselves."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 06:14 PM
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If that is the case, women should do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 05:30 PM
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Exactly. Totally agree. Third wave feminism at the end of the day believes that women are total and complete victims incapable of doing anything themselves. Third wave feminists / blue pill men feel that women truly are not capable of making their own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 05:16 PM
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That is kind of you to say that. Sadly perhaps at most 3% of women feel the way you do. At most. When I was an older male virgin women ran away. I mean things were so bad that I actually had to leave my entire social circle and find someone outside of it to lose my virginity because all of the single women in my social circle considered the virgin thing a dealbreaker. Of course when I met the girl outside of my social circle I lied to her about being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 07:32 PM
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Maybe. One other trait I love in women is when we can talk to each other about pretty much anything. Honest communication is awesome. Like if she is upset about something instead of saying nothing when I ask her what is wrong, she actually tells me so I can fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 07:25 PM
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More power to you. Just be aware that most women don't like feminine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:54 PM
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That's nice of you. You sound like a nice person. But the guys just need to lose it. Women will consider them super ugly and unattractive until they have a decent partner count, preferably in the high double digits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:44 PM
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Totally agree. Same thing happened to me when I was a virgin. Women consider male virgins ugly and repulsive, end of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:33 PM
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You seem like a nice and well meaning person. Your words are kind which is appreciated. But honestly as a person who used to be an older male virgin years ago, while your words are again, kimd, they are whole inaccurate. There is everything wrong with this state and men in this condition need to lose it ASAP. Everyone knows that women think of male virgins as disgusting, super ugly, pathetic losers. They may not say these things but that is how they feel. So because of that it needs to be lost A…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:32 PM
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Any girl who has these points would be one awesome girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 11:43 PM
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Exactly. If a girl is having a guy wait for months or years, she considers him ugly, unattractive and is settling for him. Or is simply using him for his money or something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 06:36 AM
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Agree. I don't truly know what she did do or didn't do. I don't truly know what either lady did. All I know is that these places are notorious for being brothels and even women who look like playmates or who are playmates trick. For example Victoria Silvestedt, Alexandria Karlsen, Holly Madison and many other playmates have been outed as either current or former hookers. Super hot hookers are a dime a dozen in LA, New York and Las Vegas. Actually a dime a thousand. Look, I don't judge anyone, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 05:31 AM
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More power to both of them. However all on this thread should keep in mind that Spearmint Rhino and many other Vegas "strip clubs" are actually brothels. She may make that amount of money but she is definitely working for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 11:25 PM
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More power to them both. You should be aware that that club is a notorious brothel. She was working for her money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:28 PM
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It is actually very simple. We guys hear women talking about guys they have slept with or are dating as assholes we come to the natural conclusion that many women like these types of guys. We are not the one calling them assholes, women who date and sleep with them call them that. Then of course we look at the traits of these assholes and emulate them because we too want to get women.and then they call us assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:23 PM
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No Miss Maude. You don't get it. Nobody is upset about a ONS or two. What we are upset about is a woman who sleeps around in her 20s with tons and tons of Chads, who lets herself get used as a fuck doll by countless men, then when she turns 30, meets a guy who genuinely loves and respects her and refuses to put out for that guy. That is what we don't understand and that is what upsets us. Here we are, someone who is willing to overlook your past indiscretions, someone who cares. And you are unwi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 05:53 AM
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hat's just messed up. Sounds to me like you're attempting to argue that men should bend to female emotion in all things romance. That's not going to happen anymore. (Anymore); yup, it used to. It used to matter, but now it definitely doesn't, and it's being manipulated by every man who has taken a step back to see this all for what it is. I was brought up believing female emotions mattered, because women ought to have respected male stoicism. Accepted protection from it when needed. Taken solace…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:43 AM
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I am a guy, but let me translate our ideas and concepts regarding this subject into language a female can understand. Let's say you met a very rich guy and thought he was really cool. You two began dating and things go really well but he refuses to take you out to dinner or the movies. He insists on sharing the check no matter where you go. While he makes it clear he likes you, he refuses to take any large romantic gestures towards you for the first three months. He can do these things but refus…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:33 AM
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Yes I do think it counts. And a girl that has been selling it is actually worse IMHO than a girl who is just a massive slut. Selling sex changes women. I believe women have the right to do whatever they want with their own bodies, but I could never marry a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:31 AM
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I don't care if a guy decides to become a male escort or stripper. It is their life, which they should live how they wish. Having said that, I could never do it because I am not into having sex with or stripping for men. Again, if someone is into this, more power to them, but as a straight man, I have no interest in going gay for pay. And there is NO market for male escorts that sleep with females, the market for male escorts is about 99.8% gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:29 AM
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Not sure if I count, since I am not super red pill or anything. But to answer your question, I love women. I have many wonderful female friends and while there are some really crappy women out there there are many good ones as well. Now having said that, what I find frustrating, from a dating perspective, is it seems like most young women are genuinely not sexually attracted to "good guys." I don't know why this is but I have seen it happen many times and I don't know what can be done about this…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:06 AM
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Whatever, you have the right to feel however you want to feel. Some people argue that paying a therapist is like paying someone to be your friend. Well, whatever one consenting adults decides to pay another consenting adult for is really none of my business. Different strokes for different folks. Some guys simply want to have regular sex with a hot woman and don't want to go through all the relationship drama and are willing to pay for the privilege. If they are, then more power to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 07:48 PM
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Well, believe what you want to believe. All men, pretty much feel that way. If you fuck another guy and won't fuck us, it means you think we are unattractive. End of story. What women don't or refuse to understand, is it doesn't really matter what words come out of your mouth. What matters are your actions or lack thereof. If you are fucking a guy, you consider he is attractive. If you don't fuck us, you think we are ugly and unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 08:14 AM
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Look. The truth is, most guys don't fuck around. There are some highly promiscuous guys, but your average everyday guy, especially someone who is smart and going places, isn't going to have the opportunity to fuck around. I remember I knew this slut years ago, and even though she was a slut, she, like most sluts, was only a slut for the "hot" guys. There was no way she would be slutting around with God forbid, an honor student, an accountant, an engineer or someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 08:03 AM
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it to tell who wants you for your draws vs. who wants you for a relationship. It is seriously not that hard for us to tell which chicks are wifey material (i.e. chicks we want to see again) vs. who are side chicks. It can't be that hard for yall. Yes that is true. But our "prize" that we give to a woman is the prize of commitment. Having sex with a girl is not a "prize." Most guys are willing to have sex with any halfway attractive woman. For a woman, getting a man to have sex with her is no rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 07:43 AM
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Completely and utterly agree with you. Most women simply don't understand the facts that you have presented. I don't know why this is the case, it is just the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:43 AM
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No. They have no trouble getting it for free because the sex drive of men on average is SO much higher, they are able to easily get it whenever they want. As I said earlier, I will believe that the sex drive of men and women is the same when I see women having to pay for sex. And they don't and never have to, because no matter how ugly they are, they will always have a long line of guys who want to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 07:11 AM
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I believe any agreement between consenting adults should be legal. I don't believe it is my business what consenting adults do or don't do, providing they aren't hurting others. Now having said that, for me, it would be a deal breaker. Sure I would sleep with her, but there is no way in hell I would ever commit to a woman who has a history of having various sugar daddies. If she engaged in this, it means that she is willing to sell access to her pussy for the right price and I don't want the mot…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 06:46 AM
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I have never paid for sex. But having said that, the vast majority (90%+ of women who are sex workers) are not forced to do this. They do it on their own free will. Honestly I don't see it as different than any other service that someone would pay for. People pay for people to fix their cars. The mechanic may hate the customer or hate the job. But at the end of the day, he is being paid to repair a car and if he wants to make money as a mechanic he will fix cars. Same thing with prostitutes. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 06:14 AM
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I would always want a real relationship with a real woman, but I honestly don't understand why women have such a problem with sex bots. It is seems like a simple solution that has plagued men and women for generations. Fundamentally, at the end of the day, men simply want sex a hell of a lot more than women do. This is not good. It isn't bad. It just is. And sex bots and VR are a harmless way for men to get off without breaking up their relationships with real live women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 06:07 AM
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More power to the women that decide to get this massage. As long as both parties are consenting adults, who cares. Now having said that I am sick to death of women describing these places as harmless fun while condemning guys for using prostitutes. It is basically the same type of service and what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 05:51 PM
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This is all over the place. It is a message in tons of TV shows and movies. For example Can't Hardly Wait. It is through 90% of advice columns written for men. We are told this by our female friends and relatives. This kind of horrid advice is everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 05:28 PM
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I'll believe you as soon as I see even 40% as many strip clubs for women as i see strip clubs for men. Women CAN get very aroused. I am not saying that the can't. All I am saying is that the overall sex drive is considerably higher in men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 04:09 PM
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With all due respect I can't believe this. Yes, women go crazy for rock stars, movie stars and alpha billionaires. Women around these guys get super turned on. But women are not going to think about having sex with these kinds of guys 24/7/365. There isn't a huge market where these kinds of men can actually make money having sex with women. The male sex drive is so strong both men and women can earn money servicing it. Prostitutes, both men and women are almost entirely devoted to serving men. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 07:11 AM
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Exactly. This sugar daddy explains things perfectly. http://newmillions.tumblr.com/post/98636638646/a-sugar-baby-isnt-a-prostitute-yes
/r/TheRedPill15/07/16 07:05 AM
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I see no reason why they shouldn't. It is a logical assumption and a logical proposal. If we are to argue that everyone is entitled to a certain minimum income, college tuition and healthcare, sex with prostitutes should be included in this bundle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 06:39 AM
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It is an accurate article. Women can get sex about 5000X easier then men can. Even women who are 1s and 2s can get sex from men that are 7s, 8s and 9s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 06:34 AM
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Because feminists are mostly hypocrites. They talk a good game, but at the end of the day, they must know, on some level, that their theories are a bunch of BS. Women are disgusted by weak men. They are disgusted by "nice guys." The sooner men face this fact the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 06:30 AM
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The truth is somewhere in between. You can't be an insecure, doormat, nice guy. Women are not sexually attracted to that. On the other hand, if you are beating her every day, that is the other extreme. Most women don't want that. Women are attracted to what they are attracted to. Smart men look at the men who women sleep with and try to emulate their behavior. Smart men don't listen to what women SAY, they look at who they sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 06:22 AM
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Brilliant!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 06:14 AM
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I'm sure you are a nice person. But you just don't understand. I used to be an relatively older male virgin several years ago. So I know what I am talking about. Women are super turned off and disgusted by male virgins. They just are. I don't judge you for this at all. It is just the way things are. It is like guys aren't into super obese women. It doesn't make men bad. Men are just the way they are. They don't like 400 pound women. Women are not sexually attracted to older male virgins. It is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 06:06 AM
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ng along those lines like its a good thing I kept my virginity for so long. Its kind of weird. In all honesty I've kind of given up on a lot of things in my life. Getting a girlfriend, sex, living in my own house, a career in paleontology, travelling the world, having enough money to actually do things I want to do rather than working minimum wage, my writing is one of those last few things I haven't completely given up on but t Don't despair. I was older than my peers when I was a virgin. You n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 06:00 AM
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Very true. Feminists love to talk about how they are against slut shaming and how everyone should have endless sexual freedom, but these statements ONLY apply to women. If a guy is a male virgin (most serious problem) or has something else in their sexual history that those feminists disapprove of, they are shamed and looked down upon. Considering women feel deep and utter disgust towards these older male virgins with a passion these men have only two choices. The first and best choice is simply…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 05:57 AM
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Any feminists that argue that men should support sex-positivity are just beyond ignorant as to the way life works. And any man who goes along with this reasoning is just a complete and utter idiot. Sex-positivity means that men are supposed to wife-up some chick who has four different kids by four different bad boys, has various STDs, a woman who spent her 20s and early 30s sleeping with various bad boys and now expects men to forget the past and accept them as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 01:39 AM
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Yes. The number of prostitutes has skyrocketed. I don't care what a woman decides to do with her body or if a man decides to pay for it. Strictly none of my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 01:22 AM
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Completely agree with you. And my male gay friends have said the exact same thing. Your average gay guy has sexual access to the same number of attractive men that the top 1% of men have to women. The situations are in no way comparable. Why is this the case? Testosterone. As much as women and white knights like to deny it, biologically men and women are simply different. This doesn't make men bad or women bad. It is just the way things are. Women don't want sex nearly as much as men do. The ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 01:07 AM
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Yeah exactly. Common sense and obviously true, but the SJWs refuse to confront reality. Men and women are different. They just are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 12:59 AM
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Yes. Exactly. Completely agree. I was this way when I was much younger and I felt the same way. I would have been happy with an average or below average girl. I remember after being incel for several years meeting an obese 3 and being very happy to date her. Of course because of my ultra - beta, white knight behavior she ended up dumping me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 09:44 PM
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What completely and utterly useless advice. It is like telling a new engineer that instead of studying how to fix things he should just be himself in front of them and everything will work out OK. What an idiotic statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 08:17 PM
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Women and men are different. I would love to sleep with 80% of young (older than 18) , slender women. When you want to have sex with a similar number of men we can have a discussion about how the sex drives of the genders are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 05:37 PM
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I love gay people, but gay dating is NOT the same as straight dating. Gay men are men and have the sex drive of men. They aren't women who look like men. Therefore it is about 1000% easier for a gay guy to find a casual partner compares to a straight guy getting an attractive FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 05:28 PM
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I am in my 30s and I would be interested in having sex with 80% of non-overweight women. Nearly all straight men are this way. It is just the way we are. Women simply are not anywhere near as sexual as men are, it doesn't mean that women are bad or is there is something wrong, we are just not the same. That is why their are prostitutes, nearly all of whom cater to men, even male prostitutes overwhelming service men. Same with porn, it is overwhelmingly consumed by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 05:25 PM
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More power to you. But these women are lying. Sex is always on the table if the man is paying. Basically what the men are paying for is a living, breathing f*ck doll. Women will never admit that this is the case but it always is.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 03:21 AM
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Whatever. At the end of the day it only makes men with a backbone even more attractive to women.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 03:08 AM
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He is a total alpha male. A model to emulate.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 07:54 PM
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You are obviously a woman and a stupid one at that. They do exist and in many cases they are neither fat nor ugly. Often they are attractive and successful but have no idea how to attract and keep women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 07:28 PM
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to answer your question it will always be harder. Depending on the location things can be significantly harder or only slightly harder. It is comparable to a white guy going to a predominantly black club and trying to start a relationship with an attractive black woman. The white guy would have a game disadvantage. It would be harder for him than a black guy all other factors being equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 07:18 PM
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Well whatever. At the end of the day if you are not a white guy it is much harder to pick up white girls whether you are black, Indian or Asian. It is simply a fact of life. In addition to becoming better at pickup it doesn't hurt to change your location.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:19 PM
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You make a great point and as a black guy I totally agree. I sympathize with my Indian and Asian brothers. It IS harder to pickup white girls if you are black and much, much harder than that if you are Asian or Indian. PUA gurus don't want to talk about that because they would have to admit that appearances DO matter. I personally am at a zen point when it comes to white girls. If a white girl likes me and we end up going out fine. If she doesn't like black guys fine. I can't waste time on women…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 12:10 AM
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Game does matter but there does get to be a point where you have so much status and such great looks that these make it extremely easy to keep a woman.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 07:50 PM
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I have seen this happen if the guy is super good looking. A friend of mine had a boyfriend like this. He totally worshiped the ground she walked on. She was an 8 as well. But he was a 10. A tall 6 foot something manager who was ripped.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/15 07:06 PM
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In case you don't know, these women lie about what they make all of the time. It is doubtful a woman with her looks is making $500 a date. Probably more like $200 at absolute max. And she is not getting whatever money she has asked for, simply because she is cute. No she is scking and fcking for whatever money she gets. She is basically being a sex doll for money. What happens is she goes out to dinner with these guys. After dinner, they go up to the hotel room and they do anything and everythin…
/r/TheRedPill23/08/15 08:07 AM
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They do put out. They just lie about it.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/15 06:32 PM
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"Alana currently says she has 13 sugar daddies on the go, but has had at least 40 over the years. She claims she has only ever slept with three of them. I doubt very much that only three of them got to plough her, but this proves that there are men out there weak enough to be willing to actually pay to be friendzoned. Just let that sink in for a second. I don't know whether to fee contempt or pity for these guys." No need to feel pity or contempt for the guys. Look, nobody is paying to be friend…
/r/TheRedPill27/07/15 04:40 AM
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p from start to finish investing money instead of time. The relations are RP in the sense that everything is on the table. She is your whore and you are her John. That being said, if played right, her hamster will totally justify the experience as a way to "learn" from someone with "experience." Its a win win. You get HB10 pussy for n You got it. You hit the nail on the head. It is RP. Instead of investing all kinds of time and dealing with all kinds of drama and shit tests, the guy just pays th…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/15 05:29 AM
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Genius. Completely agree. Hats off to OP
/r/TheRedPill09/06/15 05:33 PM
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Not all the time. My pickup "guru" is Alan Roger Currie. I believe in being what he calls "Mode One." Being totally honest and upfront about the fact that I want to f*ck her brains out.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/15 06:40 AM
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Completely agree with OP. These women have a complete victim complex, as do many women in the sex industry. They make the decision to be an escort / do porn / strip or whatever, and then somehow, this is the fault of one or more men. It is just ludicrous.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/15 01:41 AM
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rself enough to respect your need for sex, then you will never allow somebody to tell you you can't have it. If she says no, you let her know you will be getting it from somebody else. If she isn't happy about it, that has no bearing at all on the validity of your desires and you can disregard her objections. Do you respect y A true Red Pill man does not need to lie about marrying some girl to get into her pants. A true player and pickup artist can pickup women even though they know he only want…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/15 04:03 AM
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In nearly all cases they do put out. But they wouldn't want to admit this on national TV.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 10:22 PM
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These girls are essentially sugar babies. These chicks, as a matter of pride would never admit on TV that sex is involved but 99% of the time it is. Yes guys are taking these chicks shopping. But trust me, any guy doing this is getting value for his money.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 10:11 PM
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This feminist is in denial. The men on these sites are definitely paying these women for dates. They are taking them out to shows and sometimes to dinner. This much is true. But what 95% of these women hate to discuss is what happens afterwards when these women go up to hotel rooms with these guys and they work for their money. Anything and everything is on the table. No holes barred fun for hours. Nobody is paying simply for dinner or companionship.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/15 07:45 PM
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The women are lying about how much they make and what they do for it. Sex is a core part of the sugar daddy / baby relationship. The women don't like to admit this because they would be admitting to being whores which is what they are. What is actually happening is the men are paying women for dinner dates. That much is true. They do go to dinner with these sugar daddies and then after dinner, they go up to the hotel room for hours of no holes barred fun. The women truly work for the money. The …
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 07:31 PM
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No. She is fucking them and lying about it. The baby probably isn't even her fiancee's. These women lie all the time about what they do for the money and what they get paid.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 07:20 PM
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If a guy is going to go down this road and has even a little self-respect, he would make the girl work for her money. For someone to pay simply for dinner is beyond beta, it is just omega.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 08:06 AM
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