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Progresswobernein/r/MensRights22/04/22 01:03 AM
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Progresswobernein/r/MensRights04/08/21 10:33 PM
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I’ve had people wave off me being assaulted. Like physically having someone attack me but because I can defend myself and minimize their damage, no one gave a shit. If was in a relationship and being abused by a woman, people would treat that shit as a joke. What the fuck are you even doing here if you can’t treat men’s issues seriously? Why are you here trying to minimize mens issues. You do believe that men in Colombia are getting drugged to get robbed yes? You do know how hard it is to recogn…
/r/MensRights18/06/26 04:55 PM
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Right right right. It’s impossible for you to imagine that a German girl is friends with a Korean guy and brings her Japanese boyfriend to meet them and the Japanese guy gets drugged. No social or cultural reasons why the Korean might want to hurt the Japanese guy and his image. No reason why he might not want his German friend seeing a Japanese guy. Granted that this is a bit out dated but I’m sure you could imagine this with any number of nationalities, religions or ideologies
/r/MensRights18/06/26 04:54 AM
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A million reasons. You can’t imagine two men being attracted to the same woman and one drugging the other? I think our society is so fucked up that it’s so easy to imagine a man drugging a woman for sex but find it impossible to find a reason for a man to drug another man. Men have found out how to make toilet wine and batteries in prison but you can’t think of a single societal reason why they might try and hurt another man. For fucks sake, movies have spiking laxatives for laughs
/r/MensRights17/06/26 06:36 AM
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Maybe you could explain why this post has been removed?
/r/MensRights20/08/25 11:12 PM
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I said that we needed to be more accepting and reach out to gay men to be apart of the men’s rights movement.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 02:32 AM
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I feel like you imagining what it would feel like to lose half a billion dollars because you don’t have half a billion dollars.
/r/MensRights01/07/25 02:10 PM
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Given the technical limitations of shooting everything in “one shot”, I can imagine it being very difficult to control the narrative as well as the traditional format would. I wouldn’t so much say it’s lazy writing as it was doing the best it could with what it had. The performances were pretty stellar. The last episode was a real gut punch for me
/r/MensRights25/04/25 12:57 PM
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Looks like you’re right. I didn’t see that in the show. All I saw was a mentally disturbed kid. If they wanted to pin on incel culture, they didn’t do a very good job.
/r/MensRights25/04/25 11:38 AM
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I don’t think that was the show’s intention neither do I think people should be interpreting it as such. I wouldn’t call it shallow cause the last episode seeing the devastation that the family goes through is pretty visceral. I think to many people, this sub included are reading too much into it
/r/MensRights25/04/25 09:59 AM
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It does sort of. 3rd episode with the psychiatrist shows that the kid is a psychopath. Or a sociopath. I’m not sure which one. It has nothing to do with how he was raised or what he was exposed to. Just a straight up broken kid.
/r/MensRights25/04/25 08:07 AM
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That’s rich. You have a problem with me setting your house on fire after you clearly left your dishes in the sink for over three days.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 02:47 AM
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Did I miss something? Aren’t they being sent to a prison? That’s more than just getting deported.
/r/MensRights27/03/25 02:31 AM
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This question couldn’t have come at a better time and I appreciate you asking it. The USA election has galvanized the right to be more vocal in this sub diminishing us on the left and has left me personally feeling ostracized from a movement that I believe in. Men’s issues are not a left or right thing and I am happy to reach across the aisle to find common ground but I was almost ready to abandon this sub if it is dominated by right wing ideologies that exclude me.
/r/MensRights31/10/24 02:32 PM
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Dude, I’m trying to tell you that we all agree that this case is fucking bullshit and this sexual predator deserves more time. The person commented that it fucking sucks that it’s a fucking tragedy that sexual predators, men and women, don’t get the sentences they deserve. I’m disappointed in this sub for downvoting them for a very reasonable comment of the tragedy of sexual predators not receiving justice. Do you not agree with that this woman deserves a harsher penalty as well as anyone who co…
/r/MensRights26/10/24 09:30 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-35861441.amp https://www.hampshire.police.uk/news/hampshire/news/news/2023/october/portsmouth-man-sentenced-to-four-years-in-prison-for-rape-of-a-woman-in-november-2020/ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8rdpdm4r4ro.amp https://www.africanews.com/amp/2023/11/16/morocco-jail-time-for-four-men-accused-of-rape-of-teenage-girl-increased-to-four-years/ It fucking baffles me how the internet doesn’t have any reading comprehension because I shouldn’…
/r/MensRights26/10/24 05:13 PM
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I showed this headline to my gf. She was horrified and disgusted at the depravity of people. When I said she got 4 years, she said the same thing you did. It’s criminally not sentenced properly. All the time. The people downvoting you are assholes and I would hope there are enough sensible people are still here to put your comment back in the positive.
/r/MensRights25/10/24 11:27 PM
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No, that’s the whole point of what I said. They don’t need validation, they think they need validation. A lot of men are trained to cater to woman and to sacrifice their personal happiness for their partners. I said you don’t need a reason, you don’t need validation, if you want to break up, then do it.
/r/MensRights12/10/24 10:13 AM
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Never ask Reddit for dating advice. You will get always get a majority of responses telling you to break up. Especially in this subreddit with the way you described the way you described. You don’t need validation if you want to break up with someone. If you are unhappy, no matter the reason, it’s justification enough to break up with someone.
/r/MensRights12/10/24 07:25 AM
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The US presidential election is driving a lot more people here to post their perceived grievances. I can’t wait for it to be over and this space will hopefully go back to men’s issues.
/r/MensRights07/10/24 08:53 PM
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If a guy was walking around with a buttplug in, that’s not consenting to be fucked in the ass by another person.
/r/MensRights13/09/24 01:26 PM
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It’s seems like you are splitting hairs while that question isn’t insinuating that. It’s just a simple fact that pioneer woman had more equality than other places. Moving out to the wilderness and dealing with all the dangers was brave and difficult for anyone to do and the people that did it deserve recognition for that regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights28/02/24 07:29 AM
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This isn’t that incorrect Adam Ruins Everything - How Prostitutes Settled the Wild West
/r/MensRights27/02/24 11:12 PM
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Technically they did in the US during WW2. Someone please correct me if I’ve been misinformed.
/r/MensRights06/03/23 03:15 PM
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Boom. Right here.
/r/MensRights28/02/23 12:40 PM
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How would it violate the mothers privacy?
/r/MensRights24/02/23 08:26 AM
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House of worship shootings have increased. Trying to find out the motivation isn’t the quick google search I thought it would be as they lump all house of worships together if it’s Christian, Jewish, Islamic, Sikh or the demographic that attends like immigrants or ethnic communities. If you can find that info, I think it would help me paint a clearer picture of what you are talking about.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 04:27 AM
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And this is where I get typically slammed in this subreddit. I think most guy are not rising to meet this bare minimum. And it is not their fault. It is parents that are neglectful, teachers that are overwhelmed, society that is burdened and an entire system that is built on extracting as much blood from a stone as it can. Men are the stone of our society. As long as we, as a society produce big, juicy, blood filled stones, there will always be empty, bloodless stones that are considered as acce…
/r/MensRights12/01/23 06:36 PM
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I didn’t ask for superficial aspects. I was asking for what you thought was average. Or another way to put it, the bare minimum. What do you think the bare minimum is for a man to successfully mate, date, marry, court or whatever term you would like to use.
/r/MensRights12/01/23 06:18 PM
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I agree. The examples I gave are the exception, not the rule. I only offered them as being hit with the ugly stick and still making it out on top. Remember, they weren’t always rich and famous. They built something despite lacking “genetically” advantage. So let’s talk about an average man. What do you think the minimum an average man of average looks and average job and average personality and average interests should be like to attract an average, everyday, run of the mill woman who is compara…
/r/MensRights12/01/23 06:06 PM
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I dunno. Patton Oswald seemed to roll pretty low on the gene pool. So did Danny Devito. Both kings among men.
/r/MensRights12/01/23 05:55 PM
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Im not trying to disagree but the way you phrased your comment sounded strange to me. Did you just say that if a man has nothing to offer, he’s screwed?
/r/MensRights12/01/23 01:27 PM
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Yes that is what I am saying. Society needs to stop saying men bad and start looking critically at how society is failing so many men.
/r/MensRights29/11/22 08:59 AM
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Yes we do. It’s the whole thing with Critical Race Theory. We look at how Africans were treated, stripped of their culture and treated as second class citizens for 200 years and say, yeah, that has put black Americans in poverty and would account for why they would have a higher crime rate. We should do the same for men. All the mass shooters are boys and men. There is reason why.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 11:35 PM
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Think of it like this. Men have a serious problem. Society either tries to kill them or doesn’t care about them being killed.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 11:21 PM
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All feminists are liberal but not all liberals are feminist.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 12:49 AM
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You keep saying the world thinks women are weak. No one here thinks women are weak. Do you think women are weak? Is that what feminism teaches you? That women are weak? That everyone thinks women are weak?
/r/MensRights30/10/22 08:34 AM
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I just gave you the name of one person. It wasn’t just one person. Somewhere between 1900 and 1970, the Democratic Party changed its platform. Key markers that show this change are FDRs New Deal, the Civil Rights Act, and the Dixiecrats led by Strom Thurmond leaving the Democratic Party.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 12:19 PM
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James Strom Thurmond Sr. represented South Carolina in the United States Senate from 1954 to 2003. Prior to his 48 years as a senator, he served as the 103rd governor of South Carolina from 1947 to 1951. Thurmond was a member of the Democratic Party until 1964, when he joined the Republican Party for the remainder of his legislative career. He also ran for president in 1948 as the Dixiecrat candidate, receiving over a million votes and winning four states. Thurmond conducted the longest speaking…
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:15 PM
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Strom Thurman
/r/MensRights22/10/22 04:12 PM
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India has had a female prime minister.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 01:55 AM
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I’m 37. I’ve been with gf for a year. Obviously not every relationship has worked out for me but I’m still in your camp. Life sucks sometimes and not everything turns out how you expect, goals, work and relationships. There are too many comments I see saying, just wait till you get older. I think that’s crap. Enjoy what you have. I wish you the best. Love is the best.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 07:14 PM
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I’m the same way preferring experienced partners. I’ve always made the assumption that people have a preference for virgins because they have insecurities about being the best lover their partners have ever had.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 11:21 PM
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In addition, you will rarely see women being killed on screen. Headshots by gun are almost nonexistent.
/r/MensRights14/05/22 05:22 PM
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The fuck? I said every person has the right to choose to do what is best for them. If you choose to not make sacrifices for something that benefits for you, me, someone else, and maybe future people, hey I get it. Like I said, you do you. Self preservation, I get it. But don’t get upset when I don’t call you friend.
/r/MensRights22/04/22 07:23 AM
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You didn’t read anything I said.
/r/MensRights22/04/22 06:28 AM
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Marriage rates and birth rates are not indicative of a men going on strike. To me, it’s an indicator of wage stagnation and increase cost of living which, surprise, no cares about either. Tell me, if no one cares about living conditions of those most affected by wage stagnation and inflated living costs, what makes you think they would do anything if it was actually caused by men, mgtow or not, not participating in “the system”? Seriously, do you think people would all of a sudden have a change …
/r/MensRights22/04/22 06:25 AM
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The men that sacrifice in Ukraine is towards the goal that they keep their country from being invaded by Russia. How you have used them as an example is beyond me. Anyone, man or woman, that chooses to not fight, like MGTOW, is choosing to not participate in the outcome of their country and asking others to fight for them.
/r/MensRights22/04/22 06:11 AM
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A strike is only effective if there are enough people to take notice. That’s why strikes are organized. To make an effective use of the most power at the most precise moment. MGTOW isn’t organized. It’s people running away to attempt to regain a sense of power. But because it does nothing (as of now) and it is attempting to do nothing, I do not recognize it as a legitimate movement. It’s a movement of those giving up. Cowards. They do nothing. If they ever organize and actually do something of w…
/r/MensRights22/04/22 05:38 AM
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You do you. Take care of yourself the best you can. Personally, I am not a fan of those that have chosen a life of simplicity by rejecting mingling with a specific gender. I find those that choose to do so cowards. I do not shame cowards because I understand why you would choose to do so. But you change nothing. Those of us that remain on the front lines, take the hits, and create boundaries and push the lines forward to make way for mens issues are the ones doing the work. You choosing to wait …
/r/MensRights22/04/22 05:04 AM
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I meant go around and collecting personal stories such as this one: Mother was like this to my father and then eventually me. Would just come into your room and start beating the shit out of while you're dead asleep because something pissed her off. We called the cops once and only once. They arrested my dad...who had a black eye... Grew up thinking I had an anger issue, turns out I just really have no respect for people like that and they know what buttons to push. They're now divorced but she …
/r/MensRights22/04/22 02:08 AM
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If you have the will and effort, you could document and share all these stories that are pouring out across social media. With enough exposure, other news media might pick it up on this angle.
/r/MensRights22/04/22 01:53 AM
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For sure man. Although I would be curious to hear what advice you could give me to help better navigate my time on Earth.
/r/MensRights20/04/22 01:04 AM
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Sorry, that’s just kind of how life works. You don’t seem to be having the same criticism towards yourself. Everything you have seen tells you that what I’m saying doesn’t line up with what you know. That’s totally fine. Something could happen to me that will wildly change how I view the world. Like if I got attacked by a dog and lost use of my right arm because of it. So I, honesty, am not trying to change your mind. You believe what you believe for reasons and most of what we as humans believe…
/r/MensRights20/04/22 12:53 AM
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I’m giving my personal experience and applying it to every person, male or female. I’m traveling through Colombia at the moment and recently made friends with a guy who has seen some bad experiences so he is a lot more cautious. I’m 6’5”, over 200 lbs, and am a veteran. He’s 5’3” and maybe 130 soaking wet. Did I think I needed to walk him back to his accommodations? No. The area we are in is perfectly safe but I understand his trepidation. I can understand why people might feel the way they do. …
/r/MensRights20/04/22 12:38 AM
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I’m definitely not trying to invalidate your observations but I will say that those people let their mouths move faster than their brains on the internet. Especially when they feel supported by a group. And on a plus note, I never thought I would see such a change in public opinion towards mens issues that I have seen since when I became aware of them 20 years ago. While I have met a handful of people that mimic the fervent behavior of online activists, the majority of people I have come across …
/r/MensRights20/04/22 12:14 AM
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I just clicked the first post I found in twox. That’s about as much searching I want to do. The search for truth is really a personal journey.
/r/MensRights19/04/22 04:43 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/obomg9/women_know_it_is_not_all_men/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/MensRights18/04/22 03:44 PM
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“You asked whether there was anything that could be done about a person that was shunned and ostracized by women and wanted it to change.” No where did I say this and please help me understand how you heard me ask this. The first thing I said to you was, “Maybe don’t think about the incels of today but the incels of the future we can prevent from being created.” I then gave you a scenario of a 6 year old child and asked, “Do you really believe there are no preventative measures that could be don…
/r/MensRights18/04/22 07:32 AM
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Seriously. I was like 🤭 My goodness are you okay?
/r/MensRights18/04/22 06:47 AM
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Such a strange thing to say… My bleeding heart approach… Hmm… I really had to think about that. What do you think it was that brought me to this sub? I mean, it was my bleeding heart. My empathy for the struggles that are unique to boys and men. And yes, it is an accurate analogy of mens issues to religion and incels to extremists. As a veteran, I had to practice and prepare to kill extremists. While holding that mentality, the one that I will possibly have to kill extremists, I can simultaneous…
/r/MensRights18/04/22 06:19 AM
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Just imagine this for me. 6 year old boy, comes from an abusive home, odd facial features maybe from alcohol fetal syndrome, parents divorced, mom moves to a new city where he doesn’t fit in, no friends, thereby doesn’t develop social skills, still from a broken home so probably malnourished throughout puberty, doesn’t get tall, doesn’t get muscles, face gets even weirder, teachers hate them because they aren’t very good in school because of a learning disability and the most influential women i…
/r/MensRights18/04/22 04:12 AM
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Which part are you asking the source for? A post that generalizes men with the “men are” or a self proclaimed feminist having full comprehension that not all men are when they read men are? This first I can probably find an example of. don’t think I can find a study on the frequency of its use though if that’s what you are looking for. The second one I just kind of inferred from observation of people loving and appreciating their fathers, brothers, extended family, boyfriends, husbands, colleagu…
/r/MensRights18/04/22 04:01 AM
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Ummm, you really think bullying children is the answer? Because you can see an incel developing very early on in childhood. Just imagine this for me. 6 year old boy, come from an abusive home, odd facial features maybe from alcohol fetal syndrome, parents divorced, mom moves to a new city where he doesn’t fit in, no friends, thereby doesn’t develop social skills, still from a broken home so probably malnourished through puberty, doesn’t get tall, doesn’t get muscles,face gets even weirder, teach…
/r/MensRights17/04/22 10:09 PM
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Maybe don’t think about the incels of today but the incels of the future we can prevent from being created.
/r/MensRights17/04/22 09:56 PM
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The one on modern women isn’t too different from how other people use their disparaging comments towards men. People regularly just use the term “men are” and describe some terrible aspect of behavior that some men are. But when your average normal everyday feminist reads “men are” so and so, they recognize that it isn’t all men but enough to make the point valid for many peoples experiences. You are not offering the same levity towards people when making these broad generalizations towards wome…
/r/MensRights17/04/22 09:52 PM
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Ummm I’m pretty drunk so I am going to do the best I can trying to answer you. Shit matters. To people. Ta Da. 🥳 We’re hated because this sub sucks. It’s filled with sucky people who do nothing but suck. As for black men? Or whatever men? Obvythey have it worse. Men are already treated as dangerous. “Foreign “ men are obviously treated worse.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 07:39 AM
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Dude, I don’t mean to be rude. I’m just drunk and got bored halfway through what you wrote. Can I get a tldr?
/r/MensRights05/08/21 07:21 AM
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No shit. And in a society that doesn’t care about sexual preferences, race, or age than I would 100% be with you. But surprise, we do. And that shit matters. It affects people’s day to day. So no offense, maybe you and I don’t care about people’s sexual preferences, the rest of the world does and they get treated accordingly. I would like to hear about their experiences.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 07:11 AM
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Most people believe that feminism is just equality for the genders. Most people are egalitarian and don’t understand the problems with saying they are feminist beings.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 07:06 AM
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Well what im saying is the BIG FEMINISM isn’t what the most of what normal people believe. Including the friends that I have made. And I bet the friends you are about to make don’t believe in it either.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 06:59 AM
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No. I don’t think modern feminism is the feminism that my colleagues and friends believe. The people closest to me do not subscribe to the modern “boogey man” feminism. I have met some of those people irl but they are rare a few and far between.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 06:47 AM
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You think or you believe?
/r/MensRights05/08/21 06:29 AM
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So what does this have to do with befriending gay men?
/r/MensRights05/08/21 06:28 AM
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So you met a person irl who threw a fit. Are all feminists like that?
/r/MensRights05/08/21 06:25 AM
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Hey, it’s why I’m not in talking in /r/feminism . They kicked me out long ago. Doesn’t mean that I’m not on their side and don’t agree with them on a lot of things. Just, the the things I do disagree with are not allowed there.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 06:23 AM
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I doubt you have ever met a feminist irl who ever threw a fit. I’ve met the most die hard feminists irl and we politely left each other’s company. In my experience.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 06:19 AM
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Well are you more upset that they got banned for what they were saying or upset that they got banned for saying things?
/r/MensRights05/08/21 06:16 AM
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I will tell you this. I spent probably 10 years being an mra but had no idea. It wasn’t until I heard a die hard feminist saying “I can no longer call myself a feminist” that I started to talk about the issues that I saw. If you aren’t in that place yet, I understand. If you cant be in a group a feminists and assert your beliefs, I get it. But we as a group need to help each other get to that place to say, hey we are men and we have issues. And say it in a way that are not ashamed of. Well, brot…
/r/MensRights05/08/21 06:11 AM
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Something that says “gay” “man” and is upvoted to the front of my feed often enough that I can read it from time to time.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 05:10 AM
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This is the precipice I believe. It’s time for gay men and straight men to come together and break that barrier and hopefully start acting as men ( straight men to drop the mask of being super straight and gay men to stop being super gay)
/r/MensRights05/08/21 04:42 AM
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I’m a casual user. I’m happy that you feel like you see plenty of gay men posts but for me, I would like to see more.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 04:19 AM
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I also avoid those subs and would be ok with them being banned.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 04:03 AM
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My bad. I’m in an argument with a feminist right now and I’m being a little hyper aggressive
/r/MensRights05/08/21 03:14 AM
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Sorry that you lost your sub. I can feel for you on an individual level. But ultimately, I don’t feel like anything was lost. For me personally. I don’t think it should have existed and I don’t think it should have been there. I think it’s time you stopped avoiding life and do some work, regardless of how painful it’s going to be.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 03:00 AM
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Then it shouldn’t have been banned if all they talked about is how much better their lives were without women. Considering that was all they talked about
/r/MensRights05/08/21 02:34 AM
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I wasn’t there because I didn’t participate in the sub, but I don’t believe they were banned for being productive. I argue the opposite, if they were a productive sub and showed how much better their lives were with our women, they wouldn’t have been banned. Nofap is still around and I don’t think anyone is thinking about banning them.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 02:32 AM
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No from everything I know about the sub.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 02:19 AM
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What personal goal did they accomplish? I follow a ton of subreddits about achieving weight loss, muscle gain and just being a better person as well as men’s rights. Never once did Reddit’s algorithm suggest MGTOW to me.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 02:13 AM
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Thumbs up.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 02:00 AM
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Blow off with this nonsense
/r/MensRights05/08/21 01:48 AM
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Good. I hope they move because they were useless here and can be useless over there but at least they have each other.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 01:39 AM
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Dude… that’s too much to respond to.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 12:19 AM
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Yes I have. If you want to talk about it, feel free to dm me.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 12:17 AM
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My man, I can talk to you on the phone about it but that’s way too deep for me to get into it here.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 12:15 AM
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I’m not going to discount any abuse you have received nor am I going to discredit the assertion that women do have that power. I will tell you that i don’t personally think it’s pervasive as you think it is.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 12:09 AM
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And here is where we find our differences. I love women and I love their energy. I love men and I love their energy. I love people in general and think every person has something unique to offer and to teach. Now I thought mgtow was something about not dating women, but what you said is literally treating women like a different species. That working with them, or having a friend bring one around requires a different mindset, that I cannot condone. I can get behind having a different mindset abou…
/r/MensRights04/08/21 11:57 PM
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If you are avoiding women, you don’t have to think about them or take any consideration toward their thoughts or concerns.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 11:40 PM
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That’s contradictory.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 11:34 PM
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Not really. I asked you for rules to live by and you gave me a vague sense of a certain reality that these people live by. FDS is just as toxic but as a very clear sense of rules to live by that someone could point to.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 11:23 PM
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All of it. It’s way too dense and complicated to understand. If you could boil it down to a list or something that is more common denominator I, and other users who are less familiar with sub, could comment on it. As of now, you are writing as if you are still on the sub and assuming your audience is familiar with what you are talking about.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 11:15 PM
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I just made a post of what you can do. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/oy42vj/are_you_happy_about_the_ban/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/MensRights04/08/21 11:11 PM
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In English please
/r/MensRights04/08/21 11:04 PM
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I’m sure it was. One of the hardest things this movement has to deal with is that the suffering of men is so pervasive, it’s makes them much more vulnerable to bad ideaologies
/r/MensRights04/08/21 10:52 PM
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If aaaalllll men were to follow MGTOW then sure, that could be some bargaining power. But it wasn’t all men and it will never be all men. So instead, we have men who understand the inequality men face who, effectively, do nothing towards promoting equality for men.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 10:47 PM
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I didn’t visit the sub so if you could give me like 10 rules men should live by from that the sub , I could make a more informed comment.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 10:41 PM
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Just like the cab drivers thought…
/r/MensRights04/08/21 10:39 PM
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Because we are an extension of feminism that has been rejected. Men’s rights was born out of feminists that took the next logical step of examining men in the same fashion they examined women and learned that they just stepped in a pile of shit. Dismantling men’s stereotypical gender roles throws the entire structure our society is built on out of whack and threatens its very fabric of existence. Better to not examine it.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 10:09 PM
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So why wouldn’t we want them on our side?
/r/MensRights04/08/21 09:49 PM
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Well stop lurking and start posting ya dip! We need to hear more from our gay brothers =P
/r/MensRights04/08/21 09:44 PM
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I’m not gay so I can’t be sure but I know that I feel that I get scrutinized for being around children. I would feel that they feel that even further and a larger degree than I do.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 09:37 PM
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I did say recruit didn’t I? Meaning we need show them we stand with them and they share more in common with us then with feminism.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 09:25 PM
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They should be here but they aren’t. This movement has a PR problem and we need to not just wait for people to show up but show them why they should be here. Gay men are men and we need to show solidarity with their struggles.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 09:23 PM
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Which is why we as a community need to be more active. If that wake up moment happens, we should be there to talk about and commiserate about our experiences so they become allies of how men suffer from society, regardless of color and sexual orientation.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 09:20 PM
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No, I’m talking about their actual friends.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 09:18 PM
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So that sounds like a perfect person to hang out with and find something in common with. First, maybe approve of the whole “gay” thing because he is your friend. You ain’t going to get him to see mens suffering if you are disapproving of him as a person.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 09:07 PM
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I don’t think that I am. I’m talking about their genuine friendships with women. Maybe if you tell me what fruit flies mean to you I could better answer you?
/r/MensRights04/08/21 09:01 PM
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For me, I’ve noticed that women hypersexualize their gay friends and treat them as tokens. The code switching is very real and gay men amp up their gayness for their female friends. *edit - I can already see a trend here. Stop complaining about how gay men are a lost cause because they have already drank the kook-aid. We don’t make progress by being defeatists. How about a little positivity and belief in this cause.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 08:48 PM
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In practical purposes, it is ended. When people enlist, they are required to to serve themselves in what’s called the inactive reserves. So 4 years of active service and 4 years after giving the military a sizable population to draft from.
/r/MensRights25/07/21 05:27 PM
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Just a heads up, depending on the state, a child can pursue unpaid child support after they turn 18.
/r/MensRights28/06/21 07:46 PM
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I honestly do feel very lucky. In 4th grade, a teacher got me into his bed and started stripping me naked. He left to go check on something and I made sure not to be there when he got back. I’ve told many people and I wouldn’t say they brush it off, but they have no idea what to do with that information. Empathy towards men is such a strange concept that you can see they think it’s a horrible thing to happen to a child but they would prefer to move on quickly to something else because it makes t…
/r/MensRights16/06/21 07:35 AM
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I think you absolutely came to the right place. It ultimately asks a question that is based on a very easily seen observation. Why are men so willing to show their naughty parts? Let’s compare that to what we see from the only fans sections which tells us that women are also willing to show their naughty parts. In fact, you can find man and woman naughty parts all over the internet. Here is what I believe. Men and women are equally horny and want to have sex in the same amount but societal stigm…
/r/MensRights12/06/21 10:26 AM
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That’s absolutely 100% idiotic and you would realize that if you thought about it a little longer.
/r/MensRights10/06/21 07:44 PM
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I do.
/r/MensRights09/06/21 05:20 AM
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Wtf thread did I wake up to?
/r/MensRights03/06/21 02:00 PM
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Thank you for sharing this. I was absolutely devastated to see so many women agree with violating personal boundaries but I’m really glad to see people like you and your sister defending people because they are people.
/r/MensRights26/05/21 08:01 AM
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That’s what I said. I don’t get why you would be supportive of feminisms intolerance. In this day and age I can’t tell if you are serious or not. I would of much preferred this movement to not have it’s name under the MRM and wish that feminism would have taken men’s issues seriously in its fight for equality.
/r/MensRights26/05/21 07:49 AM
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That’s a weird thing to say and certainly moving the goalposts a bit I’m down to prove you wrong with that as well. See people are also known to lie and have inconsistent often conflicting beliefs so saying something is preferable isn’t immune from argued. Like if I said I preferred blondes over brunettes, a person could argue that it isn’t true because the only girls I’ve dated are brunettes. If someone said you were lying about your preference, I would defend your opinion of your preference wi…
/r/MensRights26/05/21 01:10 AM
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This is getting tedious and pointless but sure, I’ll entertain this tangent. ar·gue /ˈärɡyo͞o/ verb give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory, typically with the aim of persuading others to share one's view. Apples contain more fiber than berries. If your only food source was one or the other, you would survive longer by eating only apples. You could say the same thing of arguing over who was better, Batman or Superman? When you are arguing over an opinion as ridicul…
/r/MensRights26/05/21 12:51 AM
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Yeah man, I’m giving you my opinion. And yes, opinions are arguable. The statements you are giving are just opinions as well. No I’m not a feminist but that it matters to you so much to ask twice says something about how you process information.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 11:14 PM
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That’s pretty hypocritical to say I didn’t read what you wrote when I never called or implied that you or what you said was misogynistic. What I said was that you were wrong for putting those two sentences together. Voting, dress codes and gender norms are not earned through suffering like manual labor or dying in wars. I don’t think women should have to register for the draft, I think men shouldn’t have to. If you want to talk about feminism not pushing for more women cleaning the sewers, I’m a…
/r/MensRights25/05/21 10:43 PM
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To highlight the ridiculousness of equivocating women fighting for basic rights they deserve to taking part in the injustice men receive. No one deserves to be treated like men are.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 10:10 PM
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I think a lot of people here don’t realize that this sub wouldn’t exist without the work of those early feminists.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 09:59 PM
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You’re crazy if you think women shouldn’t wear pants or were wrong to fight for the right for it.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 09:57 PM
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I’ve held residence in 4 different states and 1 foreign country. Moving and experiencing different cultures and peoples and environments is a blessing. The bullshit and unjustness you are receiving might be the catalyst to the next chapter of your life.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 09:32 AM
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Your life is not defined by this. You are a victim but being a victim does not have to define you. People make mistakes. It might be possible you don’t have anything you can do about it but that doesn’t mean that you have to let this destroy you. A lot of shit happens to us we don’t have control of. Get in a random car wreck and now you have no right leg. This sounds like bullshit you shouldn’t have to go through and it’s unjust but it happens. I think this community needs to get better at suppo…
/r/MensRights14/05/21 09:23 AM
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I mean, kinda sorta. The education system in the US sucks so poverty creates less educated people who are more likely to commit crime. Not saying a better education system would eliminate crime but it would probably reduce it. Feminists have a sizable control of the education policy for the past 40 years so interpret that however you want.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 02:45 AM
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Not sure what you are trying to tell me. I said I agree with you that we should not let feminists define men.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 02:43 PM
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Uh what? Where did I say anything of what you are accusing me of saying?
/r/MensRights04/05/21 02:37 PM
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I deleted this post so I don’t see the harm in saying yes
/r/MensRights04/05/21 09:20 AM
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I’ll say this as well. I cannot deny the way that things are. I cannot change what is. Women, right now, do not date down. Men carry the same weight they did in the 1950s. I’m not going to refute that. I don’t think it should be that way but it is (with exception) that way.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 09:08 AM
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Well I’m kinda going through some stuff so it definitely colors my responses right now. Give me a year and I’m sure I’ll have a better response.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 09:02 AM
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Soooo... we’re agreeing with each other. There is nothing wrong with finding these things attractive. But if society is forcing you into a role you don’t fit into, you can see how that would be a problem. You love your wife because of who she is, not because of what society says she should be. Just trying to get men on that same level.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 08:57 AM
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The best reception I have received so far was when I said these are important issues I care about and no one is talking about them. I’m sorry if I’m not approaching it correctly but I don’t have anyone to show me the right way. It’s a tough subject.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 08:49 AM
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Yes but we are trying to move past that. I’m sure you value your wife more than her ability to cook and raise children right? Just because (some amount) of women value those things doesn’t mean they should. It doesn’t make it right.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 08:31 AM
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No, my audience is you: the rational person. The person that doesn’t have the emotional capacity you do is beyond reach. The only way I can see your approach working is if it drowns out the irrational ones. But that doesn’t happen with downvotes. It requires engagement. So how do we get more rational people to engage with trolls?
/r/MensRights04/05/21 08:27 AM
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Not true. Women are attracted to the same thing men are attracted to. We are the same. Women and men value the same thing. Women are attracted to men that men are attracted to. Men that are self confident, that believe in themselves, that are joyous and full of life. Men that make people around them happy. What we need is to cast off these gender stereotypes that tell men that this is how you do that. Yes money can make people around you happy. Yes being strong and stoic and an emotional rock ca…
/r/MensRights04/05/21 08:21 AM
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I agree. Yet that user still isn’t engaging with you. They only engage with people they can push to become more radical. How do you interact with a person that refuses to interact with you?
/r/MensRights04/05/21 08:10 AM
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Well you are far more optimistic than I. I have seen how people are able to cherry-pick to create narratives and use that to create destruction. I don’t know what the answer is, but if you think we should sit back and let it play out, well, like I said,I don’t have the answer to convince you otherwise
/r/MensRights04/05/21 07:59 AM
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The things I said are harmful to men and beneficial to women. There is no way that treating women as children is beneficial to men.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 07:53 AM
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I love that. The person that I am talking about doesn’t respond to people like you however. What then?
/r/MensRights04/05/21 07:42 AM
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Harmful to men, beneficial to women. We need women to cast off the the things that are beneficial to them and we need men to stop treating women as children.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 07:36 AM
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It’s wrong to compare female privilege to black inequality. Black Americans suffered cumulatively through generations. Women that did not have to go to Vietnam have the obvious privilege that they did not die, they were not physically disabled, and they did not suffer the mental agony that crippled so many men.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 07:17 AM
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Life is holistic. It doesn’t surprise me that a mental state can cause physical ailments.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 07:02 AM
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This is not true. While feminists have tried to redefine masculinity as defective, it does not mean we dont need to redefine it. We are not our gender. We do not have to be protectors. We do not have to be stoic. We do not have to be strong. We do not have to sacrifice. We are people. Our thoughts and feelings ate unique and defined by who we are as individuals. Not by how we are born.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 06:50 AM
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Just imagine that 2% of our community lacks common sense. How do we combat a person that is mining for that 2% and ignoring the other 98%?
/r/MensRights04/05/21 06:25 AM
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I agree. This troll has been active in our community for over a year. They are mining our community for our bad apples. We can’t ban them. And we can’t ban our bad apples. How do we activate our community to combat something like this?
/r/MensRights04/05/21 06:13 AM
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What I’ve noticed from one particular user is that they only engage with the people that have not developed those skills. Trying to agitate them to extremes.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 05:43 AM
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No I agree with you. I sent a message to the mod team for clarification because it felt like that was the case
/r/MensRights04/05/21 05:15 AM
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Inherently by definition?
/r/MensRights04/05/21 12:42 AM
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I’m really not sure what you goal in sharing this here is. If you’re excited about this, go share it with other people that will share in your excitement. It’s hard to believe that you can be this oblivious as to why we would consider this discrimination. Why should you care? Well, 15 years from now these boys will have not had the resources for an education. They are more likely to end up in prison, living on the streets, receive less pay, commuting more crime, more likely to get radicalized an…
/r/MensRights04/05/21 12:36 AM
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They didn’t have to, they chose to. That’s why it’s important to keep spreading the message that men and especially boys are in deep trouble and need love and support despite what feminists preach.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 10:44 PM
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Feminists have more in common with the alt-right then leftists. There are loads of progressives like me who don’t agree with them.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 09:33 PM
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Second page
/r/MensRights03/05/21 03:05 PM
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Yes. I tried posting something about that earlier but couldn't get the wording right. Take the example of women being catcalled or harassed in public by men. That's a men's issue we can address that feminism can't. Lump those people who are violating the social conduct agreement with the other areas that men are failing, schools, homeless populations, suicides, you can see the pattern of our society is failing men. Not men are dysfunctional or more inherently more violent, but are being broken b…
/r/MensRights03/05/21 02:58 AM
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Gotcha. In the regards, let me attempt to answer that question with that in mind u/ObviousObservationz. Why should feminists care about an issue that doesn't relate to them? Because it does. Because inequality is all around us and effects us all. It effects your friends, it effects your father it and it effects your children. And it had the power to. Over the past 50 years, feminism generated a ton of good will and most people agreed with the message. So much that feminism expanded into also add…
/r/MensRights03/05/21 02:46 AM
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I don’t think you should be getting downvoted or have people hurl insults at you. There are two types of feminists. Typically the more casual one thinks it just about equality for everyone. The other believes it is strictly for women only. Those people tend to be the academics and thought leaders for the movement.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 12:45 AM
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This has been posted before. It’s a book about highlighting men’s issues, written by a man, with a provocative title to make you say wtf. It’s not a real book about how to destroy a man, it’s a book about saying how vulnerable men are. Edit* - from a a reviewer who read it “I agree with JW that this book was written by a man. I have the book, it's a quick read, it is, as JW says, accurate, and having written many articles and essays on this and related topics as an MRA and MGTOW, I wish I had wr…
/r/MensRights02/05/21 01:41 AM
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-victims-of-war/
/r/MensRights01/05/21 05:07 PM
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Pretty sure it was Hillary Clinton
/r/MensRights01/05/21 05:03 PM
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Yeah me too. As a man.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 01:54 AM
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Not at all. This to me is just another example at how are society has failed men* in the same way as our higher suicide rate, homelessness and prison sentences. The men described in this thread have no place in our society. Not trying to invalidate any mans experience with being harassed or assaulted. I don’t accept drinks from strangers because I myself have been roofied. *missed a letter. Changed me to men
/r/MensRights01/05/21 01:07 AM
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Umm... what? I don’t understand.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 12:58 AM
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Dang man. I know those feels. It’s like both you and society agree that you shouldn’t care about those kind of things. Your own brain is like saying suck it up and don’t make a big deal about it. And that’s true. It’s the wisdom of a Buddhist monk to let go of things that don’t matter. But fuck that! We are normal human beings who experience emotions. You shouldn’t have to be some pillar of enlightenment not being upset by trivial matters. Be upset. Feel how you feel. It would be great if it did…
/r/MensRights21/04/21 05:40 AM
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That’s not true. There are some practices that remove the clitoris completely but most are similar to the male equivalent.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 07:48 AM
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Not a feminist. You would have known that if you possessed the ability to read.
/r/MensRights28/03/21 12:10 PM
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Well so we’re on the same page, I think everyone should serve in the military and there shouldn’t be a draft at all. I’m surprised to see a person here advocating for male disposability.
/r/MensRights28/03/21 05:32 AM
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Going to need more info than that. I have no idea who you think those people are and what constitutes a person’s ability to secure the nations future.
/r/MensRights28/03/21 05:04 AM
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Oh yeah? If you don’t believe voting should be right to all, who do you think should have the “privilege “ to vote?
/r/MensRights28/03/21 04:37 AM
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That’s a pretty dumb issue to have. Edit: feminism started with getting women the right to vote, of course the name is going to reflect that. Tackling men’s issues would have never even happened without feminists calling into question gender norms. IF feminism started tackling men’s issues, which it hasn’t, why would the name need to change. Saying it again, that’s a dumb issue to have.
/r/MensRights27/03/21 08:27 PM
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That’s pretty silly. I have no problem with feminism tackling male issues, it just doesn’t. We wouldn’t even be addressing male issues if it weren’t for early feminists examining and breaking down gender roles.
/r/MensRights27/03/21 08:26 PM
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I’m trying to tell you feminism can be toxic and I’ve experienced it personally. Your hand waiving that experience by diminishing my agency. That I’m too sensitive with having people disagree with me and am too quick to judge. Even saying I probably don’t actually care about women’s issues. Everyone is allowed to have their opinion but I told you about my experience. Your opinion since then has been your opinion about my experience, something I’m fairly sure you know nothing about. Forgive me if…
/r/MensRights18/03/21 10:10 PM
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I didn’t put words in your mouth. I literally said, this how I’m interpreting what you are saying. You can say that you understand that it’s frustrating but you are still denying me my experience. Assuming that I expect my feelings to be taken as gospel is hand waving away the treatment I have received from feminists. Here, I can speak my opinions and share my experiences, receive and offer support and downvote women haters which I don’t find often. You can participate here and try and change pe…
/r/MensRights18/03/21 06:56 PM
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This is how interpret your response: I hear you but I don’t believe you. If you took the time to reconsider and look at it from a woman’s perspective, I think you will change your mind. And that is the same reaction played out on various different levels throughout every interaction with feminism. You think I want to be on this subreddit getting associated with it’s worse degenerates? No. It’s because I am not allowed to express a dissenting opinion in any feminist space.
/r/MensRights18/03/21 06:02 PM
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I don’t think we would be where we are without feminism challenging gender expectations. There are many places all over the world that are extremely brutal and truly misogynistic. In the US, where I am, I don’t think this is the answer to male problems. That’s because of my experience of growing up as a guy. I think it’s time to look at gender inequality more holistically and that change can happen when both genders are allowed to express their opinions. Feminism does not allow me to speak so wh…
/r/MensRights18/03/21 04:20 PM
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You’re just saying feminists are this and feminists think that. What feminists are you talking about? I’m asking you to point me to a web site or a news article of something that feminists have done and not just thought.
/r/MensRights09/02/21 02:23 AM
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What feminists? Is there some sort of feminists advocacy group I haven't heard of? What sort of work are they are doing?
/r/MensRights08/02/21 10:26 PM
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what are you going on about mate? Person is saying the same conditions this man experienced growing that compelled him to sacrifice himself are the same conditions that compel men to become fire fighters.
/r/MensRights28/11/20 09:23 PM
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aight man, peace
/r/MensRights23/11/20 06:51 PM
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ummm okay? If you notice I posted about having a discussion about film and television. Your not really adding to the conversation, just kind of shitting on it. I do have a Masters in film and television production from oldest film school in the world so I'd like to think that I have some idea what Im talking about. So if you would like to talk about the show and what you saw as negative or harmful stereotypes, i would like to hear it. I may not agree with you but there is nothing wrong with havi…
/r/MensRights23/11/20 05:20 PM
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Just respectfully disagree. Its not your responsibility to try and change their mind. You can add that it breaks your heart that they arent sympathetic to something you find important
/r/MensRights20/11/20 10:35 PM
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could you explain further? What I saw was a very smart use of stereotypes and awareness of tropes in order to subvert them and look at them from other angles. I really appreciated the message of the importance and impact fathers and father figures had in young mens lives
/r/MensRights20/11/20 07:05 PM
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Absolutely. I think its wrong to be critical of a show for being a product of its time doing the best that it can to do what it thinks is right. I think the best example you could use would be Lucille Ball. She was one of the funniest and most powerful woman in the industry that did more to progress womens empowerment than almost any other woman of her time. Yet, if you watched her show today and viewed it through our modern lens, you could easily disect the problematic elements that were being …
/r/MensRights20/11/20 09:03 AM
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Understand that just because you don't feel like the show affected you negatively doesn't mean that other men haven't. For example, I have always had a desire to be able to work on cars because its manly. Maybe that show had something to do with that. My parents offered to buy me my first car so I said to my father that I wanted to get an old car and fix it up, you know, as a bonding thing. My father found a 68 Camaro and then paid a guy to teach me how to fix it up. I was so inept at using tool…
/r/MensRights20/11/20 08:24 AM
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Maybe the best perspective is to extract positives out of old memories and leave the negatives in the past. I agree. I think this sub too often is focused on the way our society hurts men and not enough celebrating on the positive aspects of being a man. Home improvement was that celebration of a man who dealt with changing times said it was okay to be a manly man. I am not a manly man and am probably more like the youngest son and maybe would have wished for more of a voice during my childhood …
/r/MensRights20/11/20 08:06 AM
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The problem that I see is there is very much is the reality of what is expected of men to be accepted in society. I don't fault the show for recognizing that reality but I do believe that the reality that the show highlights, encapsulated in time and era, represents a harmful expectation of men.
/r/MensRights20/11/20 07:44 AM
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That's why I said I would like to see somebody who has recently seen the show who could offer a better perspective. if I remember correctly, The oldest son was the more traditional male and suffered problems of being slightly dumber and struggling with traditional male problems, middle child was a troublemaker in the vein of Bart Simpson who was very clever but also made a lot of mischief. The youngest son if I'm remembering correctly identified more closely with his mother which created a rift …
/r/MensRights20/11/20 07:41 AM
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I think that's a real interesting example bringing up something. I remember watching Tim Allen stand up not too long ago and being dismayed by the low-hanging fruit that he drew his comedy from in the difference that he saw between men and women. I would be curious to see someone's interpretation that has watched it recently. I remember watching that show as a kid with my parents and really enjoying it but looking back on it I can see some glaring problems that it almost made strict rules for me…
/r/MensRights20/11/20 07:17 AM
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I want to say that comments like this are a men's rights issue. Men are increasingly more alone, they have less friends, they aren't doing as well in school, they're more likely to go to prison. They are more likely to take up extremist ideology when they're faced with the social dilemma of being men. When I see comments like these, I see a person that is hurting and is in dire need of help. So please recognize the struggle that we are facing in that we need to recognize the struggles men experi…
/r/MensRights20/11/20 06:02 AM
7

I understand you are hurting. Everyone is. And we are all hurting in different ways. You lashing out like this hurts men more than you know. Men are being asked to express their emotions and you have. Now Im asking you to be a man and shove them back down. Because there is nothing wrong with being a strong man that can be like a rock. You're hurting. You've been hurt. This world is painful. Be a man and deal with it. Be stoic, be strong and be respectful. I believe that we can only make change a…
/r/MensRights20/11/20 05:48 AM
7

That's because feminism, in my experience, has undermined these issues in the past. Maybe that's changed. I wouldn't know because I was pushed out of feminism to a space like this along side a bunch of mongoloids.
/r/MensRights19/11/20 07:53 PM
7

I do and I dont think anyone here would disagree that women have suffered, are still suffering and that steps need to be taken to ensure that ends. But can you imagine if I went to a feminist space on womens day and said, in the same spirit as you did today, what about men. This is the difference between the gender discussion today. Mens issues and the people that try and talk about them are being discriminated against and silenced. That's not right. You feel me?
/r/MensRights19/11/20 07:37 PM
6

I don't think there is anything wrong with coming to this space and expressing your honest opinion. It gives people a chance to hopefully change your mind if you are open to it. I would say that you are looking at the problems men and women face the wrong way. Have women had it worse? Maybe. But its hard to compare them. Both men and women have suffered because of the expectations of their gender but its difficult to compare them because our society, as a whole, has only investigated and attempt…
/r/MensRights19/11/20 07:20 PM
15

the majority of woman I've lived with have been toxic
/r/MensRights07/06/19 02:26 PM
0

no
/r/MensRights16/05/19 06:38 AM
1

I can understand how you would feel that way. There are lots of bad people in the mens movement and I wish I could stop them. I'm just a guy wishing the world was a better place and everyone was treated better. Men, women, gays, PoCs everyone. If you believe you know how to get the world to actually care about men killing themselves or being abused or any other issues that disproportionally effect men, your welcome to share. I have become so depressed that I honestly don't see it happening in my…
/r/MensRights11/05/19 02:53 AM
3

It's easy for anyone to call themselves a feminist especially in the area I'm in, but very ostracizing if you reject the label. Thing is, its not even the toxic minority that causing discrimination against men, its the whole freakin system. It wasn't feminism that started writing jokes about dropping the soap in prison. It wasn't feminism that caused men to kill themselves at alarming rates or fail school or not go to college. Its just a world that doesn't care about men. What is wrong with most…
/r/MensRights19/04/19 06:14 PM
50

Went and found a review by someone who actually read it "I agree with JW that this book was written by a man. I have the book, it's a quick read, it is, as JW says, accurate, and having written many articles and essays on this and related topics as an MRA and MGTOW, I wish I had written this book. By presenting it as a how-to for women written by a woman, the author guaranteed that it would rouse controversy, gain attention, and possibly even make lots of money from men buying it to confirm the …
/r/MensRights25/02/19 02:25 AM
6

I think you make a very good point but I'm going to disagree with you a little bit. I would say that manhood is not defined by men. Boys mold themselves to fit into whatever person they are attracted to. If they are emulating a man in their lives like a father, brother, or whoever, it because they see the success of that person in the form of respect and love. We should teach men how to be good role models but also how society, men and women, show love, compassion, and respect to the men in thei…
/r/MensRights23/02/19 09:49 PM
6

No? I just said that feminism stands for too many things I don't agree with. It teaches bad things. It hurts both men and women. There is more equality to be had in what comes next because feminism is not changing.
/r/MensRights22/02/19 02:16 AM
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I'm aware of the optics. I would prefer if people would have the courage to stop calling themselves feminist. It took me years of believing in equal rights before I had the courage. But some brave people stood up and have taken those blows and dragged through the mud and slandered and they still stand. I now stand with with them because I believe in equal rights and feminism no longer does. Thanks for the tip but I need to stand and do the right thing. It might help someone else be courageous.
/r/MensRights22/02/19 02:08 AM
7

Trump took the label of Republican, Republicans have accepted him as their own, they haven't made moves to push him out of their party, I think its fair to judge anyone who still calls themselves a Republican based on the mans actions. Same goes with feminists. They havent fought back against the crazies and allow them to exist under their branch. Its really only the casual feminists, the ones in name only who don't do much, that think the crazies dont represent them. Maybe if they did more the …
/r/MensRights22/02/19 12:46 AM
2

Dude, we only got the life we have and can only draw from the experiences we've lived. The past is like the planets in our solar system. We need a good damn telescope to see anything and only if we know where to look. And no one knows the future. Everyone is trying the best they can and it sounds like you are too. Keep it up. Who knows. Maybe one day will figure out what this blue rock in space is all about.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 05:14 PM
2

Change happens very, very slowly and then seemingly for no reason, it happens all at once.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 02:59 PM
0

I would argue that incels are broken men. Its a unique social disease that dissproportially effects men and should therefore be considered a mens issue that mras should care about.
/r/MensRights06/05/18 08:51 PM
6

He doesn't like racists, misogynistic, toxic people using him to prop up their hate. Its not unknown that there are some terrible people who are also mra's. An example of what he meant by his comedy not representing his opinion. He joked that there are too many people and 2/3 of the population needs to walk into the sea and kill themselves. Does he think there are too many people in the world? Yes. Does he think they should kill themselves? No. Its a joke.
/r/MensRights13/04/18 12:34 AM
0

I'm on my phone. I just looked up her name on Twitter and scrolled until I found it. The part that is edited out if this screen shot has a link to the groups funding page with her saying, "that's a lot of money". Its obvious im a troll because its obvious?
/r/MensRights11/04/18 01:42 AM
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I had to go look and fund the thing to see it for myself. The title is misleading. She didn't say its less of a tragedy because they are white males. She was saying that they have received an obscene amount of money on their go fund me page because they are white and male, implying people care more about white male tragedies than women or poc. She's still dead wrong but not the way OP was saying.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 09:50 PM
7

I have.
/r/MensRights12/03/18 03:48 AM
3

it sure is. But its possible that maybe induced by people that have a problem with porn. People that report no issues with porn tend to have no erectile dysfunction. I would disagree with you on what makes a healthy relationship.
/r/MensRights12/03/18 03:47 AM
6

There are no reputable studies
/r/MensRights12/03/18 03:30 AM
5

Porn also can help libido. Like most things, it depends.
/r/MensRights12/03/18 02:55 AM
4

Neckbeards and incels are a men rights issue. How often do you see women getting ostracized from society? Why are these men failing at life? Feminism has no intention of helping them.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 05:54 PM
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Just so your aware, these videos don't change anyones minds. They are sources of inspiration. Examples of bravery. Inspiring. Some days I get really hurt because of the ridicule. Seeing this helps me stay strong. Thank you for being brave amidst the bullying.
/r/MensRights26/02/18 11:19 AM
3

good people kill themselves too you know.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 05:28 PM
-1

OP's statement is the strawman. Your saying, because you disagree with what OP is saying, it allows you to counter with yours. Everything in our world pushes us to have children. You're statements are not a counter culture movement. You're mainstream pushing people into the same path they have always gone and shitting, literally shitting and discouraging people from choosing a different way. Some people, an undetermined number, are happier without children.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 07:57 AM
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Thats a very nice straw man you built. I wasn't commenting on OP's post, I was commenting on yours. Absolutely. Calling a childless life lonely and unsatisfactory is a shit head thing to do. Fuck off right back at ya.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 07:18 AM
4

Way to make a judgment call about how people find happiness. Many people are perfectly fine without children. Don't be a shit head and crap on peoples parties just because you don't give your seal of approval.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 06:58 AM
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And you can also have live a very happy life without kids. What are you deaf? Different strokes for different folks. Let people do what they want.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 06:48 AM
2

OH I remember now! The diamond industry made up the two month salary thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5kWu1ifBGU
/r/MensRights20/02/18 11:30 PM
1

Well at the risk of being brash, conservative mras can eat a dick. People should be free to be whoever they want, not what society expects of them. Male disposability isn't something that needs to be respected, it needs to be eliminated.
/r/MensRights18/02/18 06:50 PM
1

Your personal experience was that you chose to date someone with those expectations.
/r/MensRights17/02/18 08:26 PM
2

I thought this sub was about dismantling the traditional male roles we consider oppressive. Why would you want a girl to do something I don't want to do?
/r/MensRights17/02/18 05:00 PM
-4

Not really. Are you agreeing that men SHOULD be held to the standard of buying an expensive ring?
/r/MensRights17/02/18 04:22 PM
25

That was made up. If its something you care about, don't date a girl who prizes those things.
/r/MensRights17/02/18 04:18 PM
23

If I proposed to my girlfriend with a ten dollar ring, she would be ecstatic. You have a choice in who you date you know?
/r/MensRights17/02/18 04:16 PM
3

You're being condescending assuming your definition is correct and all others are wrong. If misogynists made up a word that insulted and excluded women, correct, I would not use that word. The fact that you want too use the term points pretty heavily to you being a misandrist. If you've every used the phrase "drowning in male tears", than almost guaranteed you are a misandrist.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 11:07 PM
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No your obfuscating the problem of misandry in feminism by putting it under such a broad description of supporting women's rights, of which nearly every person would identify as a feminist.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 09:57 PM
3

Youre saying you don't want it to be sexist, that doesn't make it use sexist. You are ignoring its use in common parlance. My girlfriend just told me a completely different definition of what the term means to her. Just because that definition works for you, doesn't stop misandarists from using it to attack men.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 08:09 PM
5

He was patronizing in his explanation of the iliad. Usually Im not for anecdotes but you will never change my mind about how toxic, cruel and derogatory the use of the word mansplain has been used against me.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 07:37 PM
4

to explain in a patronizing matter is just patronizing. Mansplain is not gender neutral. Ive been explicitly told by feminist academics that a woman cannot mansplain.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 07:04 PM
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No. The word already existed but they created a new and using it as a pejorative. Patronizing means the exact same thing and is even gendered.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 05:08 PM
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If the leadership is like this and the moderates don't condemn the crazy, I have less of an issue with the broad strokes
/r/MensRights19/01/18 05:05 PM
1

Its what they want but its not what they need.
/r/MensRights14/11/17 09:07 PM
1

Like I said, we our probably going to just have to agree to disagree. You don't seem to be recognizing that the answer your giving is for them just to get over it. Even your response to the alcoholic example lacks the self awareness that AA is a group of people actively working to combat alcoholism with nuanced and practiced techniques offering support and community, something that doesn't exist for incels. They don't just say, don't drink. Red Foreman was a character on That 70s Show whos answe…
/r/MensRights14/11/17 09:01 PM
1

Do you think that there should be eduction that deals what that exclusively for men or a general education for that for everybody?
/r/MensRights14/11/17 05:16 AM
3

I wasn't talking about the right to have a sexual partner but the mental health aspect of it. The failure to integrate into society and the repercussions of having an outcast sect of men and then having it to run into such a toxic place that it was deemed necessary to ban it.
/r/MensRights14/11/17 12:49 AM
2

Well thanks for taking the time to share your opinion but we will probably just have to agree to disagree. You give off this whole taxation is theft kind of vibe and I don't really agree with that kind of philosophy. You can't tell an alcoholic the answer to their problem is to just quit drinking. Homelessness, prisons, workplace deaths, suicides are all problems that disproportionately affect men. Despite your thoughtful and nuanced comment of, wrong, the incel community was almost exclusively …
/r/MensRights14/11/17 12:34 AM
2

Because it effects men almost exclusively. Men are not inherently by birth dumbasses. Something about our society is broken that creates these types of men.
/r/MensRights13/11/17 09:49 PM
4

probably not as bad. A janitor at elementary school isnt thought to be pedophile as much if they keep to themselves. If they take an interest in a childs well being than every goes on high alert. Same probably goes for a principal.
/r/MensRights24/09/17 11:30 AM
7

Its a hassle to have people think you want to molest children I imagine.
/r/MensRights24/09/17 05:46 AM
1

Sort of. I see where you are coming from but I disagree and I don't think I can convince you of my reasoning over reddit, so forgive me for just wanting to stop here.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 07:27 PM
6

whatever. go out into the world and do whatever you think is best but obviously our morality is different.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 07:25 PM
17

wut? For believing men shouldn't have to die in mine shafts and women shouldn't have stay in a house with babies? Don't be an idiot.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 07:16 PM
-9

youre right. They were anti discrimination movement which still isn't a supremacist movement.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 07:13 PM
1

because neither men or women should be held to those responsibilities. We wouldn't even be talking about the inequlaity and discrimination men face if it weren't for those first, second and earlier part of third waves of feminism.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 06:55 PM
7

same
/r/MensRights24/07/17 09:32 AM
14

no. pedophilia is an attraction to children who have not hit puberty while statutory is under the age of consent (which varies depending on where you live)
/r/MensRights13/07/17 05:37 PM
16

one out every every 77 male infants is too many for an unnecessary procedure.
/r/MensRights03/07/17 04:19 AM
1

If they are spreading disinformation, which /u/Rethgil believes they are, that comment would come across more as paying lip service no?
/r/MensRights01/07/17 08:10 PM
1

/u/YHallo said "even though men tend to be sexually assaulted by other men." If thats not true, which is what /u/Rethgil believes, then it would be a reason to be upset because it diminishes support for male victims assaulted by female perpatrators
/r/MensRights30/06/17 11:02 PM
1

if men and women commit and experience sexual assault at similar rates, then the person /u/Rethgil was responding to and you were defending did indeed have a slanted it towards one gender.
/r/MensRights30/06/17 10:38 PM
1

I dont see what your saying. I didn't add any extra dice or manipulate data. I was simply offering a reasoning that explained that men and women experience the same sexual assault rate. What the original comment is claiming could be intellectually dishonest. You have two bowls. One has two oranges in it where one is rotten and the other has five oranges and one is rotten, it would be intellectually dishonest to say that one bowl cause oranges to experience more rot than the other. If gender disc…
/r/MensRights30/06/17 08:15 AM
2

Lets see, I believe that sexual assault is a crime that should treated as equal and should be stopped no matter the gender. You believe that it happens to women more, which as it stands most people do, which causes more resources to be devoted to women, which is exactly whats happening. Also why people were so excited to see the poster put up specifically addressing men. So one of our beliefs fights sexual assault no matter where it happens and the other causes a percentage of sexual assault vic…
/r/MensRights29/06/17 08:32 PM
0

No I was interpreting the comment as women were 5 times more likely to experience sexual assault in the military than in non military conditions. I was postulating that if sexual assault were equal across genders, then the data should be interpreted that men were 5 times less likely to be sexually assaulted because there were less women to assault them.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 08:22 PM
2

I would just like to add that as a man who has been a victim of sexual assault, your disbelief and refusal to accept that it might happen more often than you think is part of the problem. The social stigma attached to men that prevents victims from coming forward and having to deal with the scars that they leave behind in silence is forever perpetuated by people just like you. Like the article said, compassion is not a finite resource and your lack of it makes my heart ache for all those male vi…
/r/MensRights29/06/17 08:04 PM
2

"For years, the FBI defined forcible rape, for data collecting purposes, as “the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will.” Eventually localities began to rebel against that limited gender-bound definition; in 2010 Chicago reported 86,767 cases of rape but used its own broader definition, so the FBI left out the Chicago stats. Finally, in 2012, the FBI revised its definition and focused on penetration, with no mention of female (or force)." What you linked is from 2011
/r/MensRights29/06/17 07:50 PM
2

"When those cases were taken into account, the rates of nonconsensual sexual contact basically equalized, with 1.270 million women and 1.267 million men claiming to be victims of sexual violence."
/r/MensRights29/06/17 07:37 PM
2

Here's an article summarizing the studies you don't want to pay to see. Not as good as reading the actual studies but if you are unwilling to pay for them it can't be helped. http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_rape_in_america_a_new_study_reveals_that_men_are_sexually_assaulted.html
/r/MensRights29/06/17 07:20 PM
1

http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2014.301946?journalCode=ajph&
/r/MensRights29/06/17 06:35 PM
2

Maybe. Or it could be that sexual assault happens equally between sexes and the numbers cap out with the amount of women. For example, if there were 50% women in the military, the percentages would look equal while the numbers would be higher for both sexes. edit- or to take it a step further, if the military was 80% female and 20% male, the amount of sexual assaults would be equal between men and women but men would be getting assaulted at a higher percentage
/r/MensRights29/06/17 06:00 PM
2

So according to 2015 demographics of active duty military that would be approx. 8109 females being assaulted and 9084 men. http://download.militaryonesource.mil/12038/MOS/Reports/2015-Demographics-Report.pdf Edit*- whoops. I used the data for enlisted members only and didn't include officers. The numbers might be a little different for the whole but should still be somewhere around what I posted
/r/MensRights29/06/17 05:34 PM
1

Yeah it sure does have everyone stumped for sure. But whatever the reason, women don't go into media creation at the same rate men do. So some people get excited and make awards and things specifically for women in an attempt to whatever. Going through film school, we talk about it a lot.
/r/MensRights29/05/17 06:45 AM
0

Its not ironic as there are very few women in the film industry behind the camera. Acknowledging mens and womens rights is to see that both men and women are disadvantaged in different aspects.
/r/MensRights27/05/17 12:00 AM
2

Patriarchy is a social system in which males hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property. Your definition only covers political leadership. The moral authority, social privledge and control of property would be in dispute. Plus, there other people who believe it goes even deeper than that. Saudia Arabia is a patriarchy because women are literally put under men and their entire social life is dictated by men on eve…
/r/MensRights16/05/17 01:39 PM
4

not exactly but it means different things to different people. If that's how you want to see it you can go ahead but don't be surprised if people disagree with you.
/r/MensRights16/05/17 05:02 AM
5

Because the top is a very small percentage and the presence of subordinate men is the overwhelming majority.
/r/MensRights16/05/17 04:58 AM
4

No one said otherwise and no one would disagree with those examples. Just a disagreement of what Patriarchy means and how the word effect the world. When you say you believe the world is ruled by men and favors men, something 97% of workplace fatalities in the US are the deaths of men doesn't seem to fit that narrative. Its just a difference of opinion.
/r/MensRights16/05/17 04:46 AM
1

Those things are absolutely terrible and there should be a greater number of women who make over 100k and in positions of power. What /u/dungone was trying to say, I think, is that feminism is stating a fact in a vacuum and applying to the real world where it doesn't really apply.
/r/MensRights16/05/17 04:08 AM
2

ehhhh... you said "feels just like this sub" which translates to "I feel like this sub." Not hard to see why someone would take that as an attack. edit- I would suggest if you don't want people to think you are attacking them, you might want to make sure it can't be construed you aren't. More words to clarify might help that.
/r/MensRights16/05/17 04:01 AM
1

its like Gerard Butler trying to do an American accent.
/r/MensRights24/10/15 08:50 AM
-1

You are working against men by perpetuating the myth of what it means to be a man.
/r/MensRights08/07/15 03:10 PM
0

Honestly, I have to agree with/u/karissa36. Its always hard to tell with these thibgs without audio but from body language, dude looked like the agressor. If somebody I didnt like got up in my space, shoved me and said something antagonizing, I might take a swing at them too. Its really hard to tell from this video. In this instance of gender inequality, I dont think women should be treated like men. I think that every guy should have the same treatment this girl got. *edit- I meant every guy sh…
/r/MensRights08/07/15 02:56 PM
24

Whoosh
/r/MensRights08/07/15 02:42 PM
-1

Sure thats what could have happened. Instead, a bunch vitriol spilled out. This is seriously sad that men are being completely disregarded and thrown to the side. MRA has a huge, uphill battle because society at large sees no problem. Yet everyone gere is a huge hypocrite using this poster as an excuse to spout their hate for feminism. Youre right, its different, but not that different.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 03:45 PM
-10

its also the same response everyone here had to her.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 07:17 AM
1

What gave you the impression that I didn't get that? I was asking what you thought was fair. Are women getting off easy or are men getting unfairly hammered?
/r/MensRights18/06/15 10:40 PM
1

But it could be the opposite. It could be that we are so used to men getting punished and serving a certain sentence that we consider that the standard. Then we see this and think its not harsh enough. It could be this is appropriate and men receive and obscene amount of punishment. Or not. I dunno.
/r/MensRights18/06/15 04:58 PM
3

no I get that. This is more of your take on the efficacy of prison sentences. Do you think men get too harsh of punishments or women get off too easy?
/r/MensRights18/06/15 04:55 PM
-12

How does /r/mensrights feel about criminal sentencing? Should women receive more time or men less?
/r/MensRights18/06/15 04:03 PM
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