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Red Pill Theorywoefulwank/r/TheRedPill07/01/16 06:52 PM
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woefulwank/r/askTRP14/06/16 04:53 PM
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Red Pill Theorywoefulwank/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 02:05 PM
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Discussionwoefulwank/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 12:27 PM
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Discussionwoefulwank/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:05 AM
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Question for Red Pillwoefulwank/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 07:57 PM
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Question for RedPillwoefulwank/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 08:34 AM
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Discussionwoefulwank/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 04:51 PM
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Discussionwoefulwank/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 03:11 PM
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Discussionwoefulwank/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 03:48 PM
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Question for RedPillwoefulwank/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 11:47 AM
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Discussionwoefulwank/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 01:47 PM
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Discussionwoefulwank/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:17 PM
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woefulwank/r/askTRP29/11/15 07:29 PM
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woefulwank/r/askTRP21/09/15 07:27 AM
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Discussionwoefulwank/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 08:23 AM
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woefulwank/r/askTRP11/10/15 07:16 AM
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woefulwank/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 07:35 PM
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woefulwank/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 04:54 PM
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he has a lot of macho tokens in the bank lol he can spend them on understandable human sadness He and many alike. I'm not missing your point, I get it. But there's still a reason to not do this openly in my view. It just doesn't do you any favours. If you feel sad about some shit, go and sob in the toilet for a few mins.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 08:25 PM
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I'm surprised you have the temperament to tolerate male tears tbh. For some reason I feel like you thought it was an extremely off-putting act to witness. Might've been someone else who vocalised this hardline attitude tho, when it properly came up a while ago. I'd still say that it's very risky territory to get yourself in as a man. You generally want to hold back from doing that shit in front of women you're romantically involved with. But if you do decide to let it all pour out, on occasion, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 08:02 PM
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Does your partner cry in front of you more than once a year? How do you feel when he cries in front of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 07:45 AM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 08:23 PM
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Why is it that you think your actions don’t leave a mark on you? Some people here don't believe in morality and feel it's a decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:35 PM
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but this is not broadly about having a hot sex life, just for what that entails. it's all about genetics prospering, beneath the surface. a mother, or a father, being able to coach their offspring (to a degree) promises that grandchildren can be apart of the equation. future generations being birthed is the root of all libido and human activity. so innately this should be factored into parenting children to become at least competent at attracting the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:27 PM
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Infuriating thread. Solid data. Again the sexes are made distinct by the male side taking the data and going somewhere with it, and the female side, more concerned with semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:12 PM
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So what's your point? To give in to these desires and dump a good thing if you feel you've identified a 'better' thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 09:28 PM
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Every partner on earth has flaws. I'd agree, certainly can't argue with that. However generally people settle for less than what they truly desire. This can be disastrous. You however seem to have your head screwed on, so I wish you all the best. I'm still wishful in thinking I'll find a woman with all of what I want in a partner, but perhaps this is a game of net loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 09:20 PM
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I can either accept that reality, or focus on the lack of camping with my partner until I create a resentment. Or you can find someone who's there for you AND likes camping.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 09:07 PM
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What can we conclude as to why wives aren’t bothered by the physical attractiveness of their spouses?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 08:28 AM
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I'd like to hear it in earnest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 08:38 PM
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Studies please.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 08:26 PM
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A very well-communicated set of points here. Couldn't put it better myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 12:02 PM
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dynamic occurign that reveals soemthign about female nature How would you succinctly outline this dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 11:50 AM
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Are you inferring that the libidinous male instinct is somehow bolstering relationships and without they'd fall flat sooner than if this instinct wasn't so forthright? Interesting if so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 06:30 PM
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Problem is without the male libido forcing itself, most ppl would realize they aren’t that compatible. Can you clarify what you mean here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 03:28 PM
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women are not equations that give you the same results I get what you’re saying. But if you do certain things, exhibit certain behaviours, you do get expected results. So choosing to opt for the viewpoint you seem to be suggesting (‘everything is chaos and you just never know’) is similarly obtuse in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 06:49 PM
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Thanks. Yes, both genders play games. Reluctantly apparently, but the game of attraction is a reciprocal one that yields no mercy for the inactive or obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:19 PM
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Women have to play games too that we don't like. Not baiting you here, genuine question, what games are these?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 11:22 AM
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lots of creative/artisitic types are super volatile drama queens and its very attractive to women I believe we've gone over this before, in ref to bpd males, but can you give me a rundown of how this works functionally? re: creative/drama queen males
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 10:30 PM
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I wasn’t referring to the marriage element. I was saying if she thinks she’s being strung along, leave before he drains you of your prime years. A beautiful woman can find a similar candidate in a quicker turnaround than a man could. There’s simply more opportunity for women if they place themselves around such men. Anyway, the point you’re making on women sticking with a hopeless marriage promise, and how they apply sunk fallacy costs to their reality there onwards, is a more interesting indict…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:45 AM
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I don’t understand how women end up with this problem. They have the upper hand always, why not apply the agency she has, and get gone?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 09:42 AM
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Even androids berate lesser ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 08:54 PM
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If your comments weren't already novel enough, I always imagine you aggressively typing your responses. Verbally yelling at your phone screen in distain of every thread constructed by slightly naive OPs. It's fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 07:56 PM
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chubby lovely a new category you've opened up to my world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 07:53 PM
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Underated comment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 08:44 PM
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yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 08:36 PM
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Your girlfriend isn't specifically conscious of this and behaving well to keep you. You mean, she is specifically conscious of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 08:52 PM
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Yeah. I posit that a single guy is in constant crisis. Moment to moment he’s in constant flux. And there are issues to fix. And the subjects of masculinity, (especially in regards to the young) and crisis couldn’t be more prevalent right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 07:38 AM
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Does the notion of the midlife crisis ever really end though?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 07:16 PM
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Likely. But don’t some women attempt to overcome their feelings of disenchantment by sleeping around after such a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 06:15 PM
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Precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:10 AM
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You’ve clearly got selective bias. When I feel she faulters I’m right there to debate her too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:06 AM
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Interesting. How do you innately know what is permitted? Have you gleaned greater insight from past relationships and now you find yourself in a place where you can make it work without trialling?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:29 PM
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I was only asking, yeesh!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:27 PM
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It’s an apt quote. But it naturally involves morality. No avoiding that. Disregarding that. As others have said, it’s psychologically, physically and emotionally taxing to be with various women and give them your time, simultaneously. Women are too complex, too nuanced for one man to have to maintain for any length of time. I also don’t think it’s good for your soul but that’s never gonna resonate with the ardent atheists on here so that’s just my thing. It also doesn’t work unless all girls are…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:26 PM
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Good summation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:20 PM
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I thought it was one of the most vividly descriptive paragraphs I’ve read for a while. Kudos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:16 PM
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Gotta love your zoned in, specific follow up questions. I never have to bother ask myself. I can just free ride and live vicariously!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:13 PM
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Was it really worth applauding?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:10 PM
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Do you ever liberally test his boundaries when you feel so inclined? Just to gauge his tolerance?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:08 PM
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JFC?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:07 PM
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It's all down to Attachment Styles. We can keep rewording these arguments but it's always down to the aforementioned when it comes to attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 08:29 AM
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Hope you keep up these longer write ups. There's gold in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 03:10 PM
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Wait, expand?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 11:11 AM
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I concur. The notion that casual sex is fun for all parties seems incorrect in my experience. Most of the girls you seduce end up catching feelings and it makes the whole thing rather corrupting at a certain point. The idea that girls are out there and just want to fuck with no strings, is way more overblown than reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 11:08 AM
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Although it's a grand distillation, do you think this singular factor explains the inability for males to respect women? Do any other factors come into play? I find women's inherent nature to be a factor too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 10:49 AM
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Goodo, my understanding is still in fine stead then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:50 PM
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I'm not going to commit to you until I know a) you're the best looking woman I can get. b) I see a future with you where you'll aid me in getting all the things I want out of life, with minimal hassle. I mention this because I'm also not in any kind of rush to tell you I love you until those things have been guaranteed. Ergo, it's not in my best interests to say it to you first. Doesn't always mean he doesn't feel some kind of feeling that could be interpreted as 'love' whatever that means in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:47 PM
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Grid not so say that wasn't a valuable perspective, but that kind of muddies the waters with what i thought i just comprehended by atlas' comments. Could you clarify? ....so you're saying film star bodies like Brando's is what created visceral attraction in women and didn't rely on presence?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:41 PM
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That we do, that we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:38 PM
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decent breakdown/response, cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:14 PM
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i don't know any women in real life who possess the same views as the minority of male brained/autistic women on here. and that's not an insult - most men on here aren't exactly the average male customer are they. To fit in - outside of the confines of esoteric forums like this - takes some delusion and self-deceit, which I'd say women like this author do very well. And they're in abundance where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 06:59 PM
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Okay, you've always echoed this point to the death. I feel like most of the regulars understand this now fully. BUT it still doesn't really explain why most women have various celebrity crushes (all ripped) who they're vocal about. YES it could just be status, but that doesn't seem to clarify the phenomenon of these comments women make about these adonis looking actors. Or is it just 'well, he played charismatic dudes in films'? Meaning they bought into his onscreen so much that they literally d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 06:41 PM
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But unfortunately the amount of women like the author outnumber women like you 1:100,000,000
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 06:25 PM
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This guy scents. Appreciate the write up.
/r/RPChristians13/09/18 09:31 PM
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I may be out the loop. Does she ever proclaim not to be like 'the other girls'?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 10:51 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 09:37 PM
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Can this be used as a case study for your search of 30+ ltr limerence?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 11:00 PM
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End thread
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 07:19 AM
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It was as straight speaking as you can get. Hence the “ouch”. Pertaining to the reaction I’d suspect it would generate from the person it was aimed at. Simply put, was quite an innocuous statement from my end.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 04:15 PM
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Ouch!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 03:42 PM
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It's likely of interest to her and surprises because men are said to not be keen to wait around for a girl to give. (A fallacy imo and ime, though). Plenty do this, if she's hot enough - and then still bail. (If she's not got other requisite qualities for ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 09:04 PM
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Are you an 8 or above? And did you mean: "I know my gfs shit on GUYS who say what are we'"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 09:02 PM
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because it can make him seem needy Can and WILL.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 09:01 PM
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A man is never not going to want to have sex with as many women as possible, whether he meets a great woman or not. He may stop having sex with other women when he does find a great one, but he doesn't feel good about it. It's like when you have to pay a higher percentage of tax when you get a great job. You're gonna go for the great job over, the not-so-good job you had before because it's the one for you - but you don't feel great about paying higher tax. Women, when they meet mr right, tend t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 08:58 PM
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Plate spinning is fun and everything but it’s more work than it is worth in the long term. Not if you're handsome enough to make it effortless. But your point stands for the only moderately attractive men, and those who want to find a life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 12:11 AM
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Thx for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/18 09:22 AM
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I'm confused. I was challenging your notion that beta boys fuck more than alphas cause you said you bought into that notion. Then asked whether you think they fuck more than alphas, and you said no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 11:18 PM
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As in the have sex with more frequency than alphas?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 11:02 PM
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He was a great reiterator of RP but it lacked the punch of experience and had an aura of sadness Think you're discrediting his incisiveness at times, but tone of voice when it comes to writing is extremely subjective so hey ho. But I'd say you can't escape this 'aura of sadness' when you're describing the female-male dynamic as a successful, attractive man. You have to be stoic not to let the somewhat melancholy of the whole process make you feel empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 10:58 PM
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I got my hair back What alchemy aided you with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 10:50 PM
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(I believe in Beta Fucks, personally). i still have no real grasp of what this even means in real life terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 10:49 PM
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Where do you think Prohibition came from? The vast amount of instances of alcoholism also had a part to play in the prohibition.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 10:14 PM
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Settling for a 6 when you wanted an 8 isn't the same thing, what is it then? settling is settling, and whatever the context, it cuts deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 08:23 PM
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we build walls that insulate us from emotional pain, whether real or imaginary, Your argument until then works, until it doesn't. It's precisely this "real" or "imaginary" conundrum that plays on the man's head. 'Is the information I'm reading, over and over, and gleaning some truth to, real or infact imaginary?' he ponders. But the truth is that many men (people in general) will be guided towards a romantic destiny that stems largely from attachment patterns, so indeed, for those unlucky souls …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 08:03 PM
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Are you over the age of 45?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 08:57 PM
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very specific
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 06:34 PM
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(although this one I'd maybe stay around for a little and see where it goes) Just for the sex? If it's plans you don't share I don't see how it could be for anything else, since you'd already you wouldn't want to be on that journey with her, since it's not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 08:19 PM
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Any particular way the disrespect has to manifest for you to call it curtains?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 08:03 PM
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This is true. If you want to maintain hair, whether during natural loss, or after a transplant, you must keep up with medication to preserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 08:20 PM
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Yeah that’ll do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 06:58 AM
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once the slightest bit of resentment over expectations sets in Could you explain exactly what you mean by this sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 09:01 PM
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Susan's got huge knockers and I'm a spring chicken.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 08:52 PM
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I don’t know what the answer is. I just know this marriage is a good marriage. The other one wasn’t. I find it difficult to see how someone as smart and observant as you can't figure it out, (no offence!) We literally populate a board so frequently, and make statements, that's based entirely on our social dynamics between the sexes. Surely you must, in part, comprehend what happened to cause the decline?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 08:47 PM
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Ah, the bpd guy, huh? I still think if bpd guys can not let their crazy show they can get a real catch, given their ability to attract and stir a woman's heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 08:45 PM
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they present as low responsibility All men do, only women require responsibility and nurturing. Men should not present as needing any maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 08:36 PM
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How does a slut manifest their heart of gold?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 08:34 PM
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It certainly does for those with mental health issues. Which turns out is quite a significant portion of the population. Considering mental health is such a vast continuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 09:20 PM
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that's why i (mis)took it to mean "i've experienced bpd attraction first hand, and they're like crack".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 07:36 PM
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def seen you say bpd males are like "crack" before, but fair dos. narcs are similarly intense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 07:06 PM
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I will never understand how people who have all of these feelings and live you never a dated a bpd dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 09:51 PM
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Because don’t do what I depicted in that comment. They seek the best possible partner. And once they attain that, they do not then actively seek out strange men to have uncommitted sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:50 AM
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or railign against the content of the philosophy? I don't even think many women really comprehend the 'philosophy' (if we're really being that high-falutin about the movement in and of itself). they see it as losers leaving the dating pool, because they're losers, losing. But the origin of the movement doesn't seem to have much show for it, because the men who are living good lives are doing exactly that. And not inhabiting obscure online territories like this. It's the same misunderstanding i t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 08:04 PM
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It's the egoists who do this, that discredit what is a valid school of thought - generally speaking. Now, I am no mgtow, I believe choosing a life without women, choosing not to pursue them is a faulty way to address to the perils associated with the male-female dynamic. But there is ample reason to choose the path with the way things have skewed in the last ten years. It's the silent ones who get on with their life, build a career and cultivate well-rounded character before searching for partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 07:49 PM
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Just to ask a candid question, how do you deal with men in a relationship context? Do you tell them how you feel honestly about the gender as a whole e.g. your strong dislike towards their nature? Genuine question. I think you have a lot to say that's interesting, but you simultaneously think men are awful, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 03:43 PM
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This is why BPD guys are the answer to most women's attraction-meter. Clearly demonstrated by opinions like yours and the other ladies' here. They possess all the ability to keep such exciting turbulence, that feeds the attraction and heat. It's such a vivid and intense ride with these types. Edit. The other point to make here is that, the guy must eventually get his ass out of the relationship, otherwise he'll out live his welcome and the the woman'll dump him and leave him in a right mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 03:41 PM
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Most men generally aren't very 'feely' or 'thinky'. But for those who are, I'd agree. For them it's hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 10:37 PM
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As much as women here hate when men try to ascribe them their own experiences, I'd agree. At least, that's what they should fear. As that's really the only thing that threatens their chance at getting the man they want; there's always a chance he may just want to keep on having lots of a sex with strangers and not commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 10:35 PM
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what does no pill even mean, emory? no bias in either which way? no framework?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 09:41 PM
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tbf you do tend to point out that foreigners lack of success is chiefly down to their non western-ness
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 09:28 PM
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I think someone women are still going to be turned off - but not all, you're right. turned off by a super hot guy talking to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 07:09 AM
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I have seen it on Tinder a couple times, but Tinder is the lowest common denominator. I never really understand this view. It's the most commonly used way of dating. It houses every demographic. Girls on their are just girls on there, it's not like they're all bottom of the barrel wenches.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 07:02 AM
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...And the claim that girls don't value looks over other attributes crumbles
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 06:56 AM
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and they are 6 inches shorter. Than 5'4"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 08:29 PM
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that your weather is superior
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 08:11 PM
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This thread is the non-scientific td;lr.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 03:46 PM
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either way i don't think the lack of sex for extended period of time triggers "crisis" for women. The longer men go without sex the longer they'll stay in a celibate state involuntarily. Women, like the ones you describe can change things around imminently if they felt compulsion to. They do not, because, yes, the libido differences are distinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 03:29 PM
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This is a branch of thought that science has already covered extensively. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_histocompatibility_complex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 02:53 PM
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I feel like we all know how pernicious opiates are. Especially to the traumatised and emotionally vulnerable since their nervous systems seem particularly sensitive to it. And thus find it ameliorates their pain, for a short period. But I also feel we ignore those who are functional on it. Since you've been in these circles for most of your adult life, have you never known any people who have dabbled and moved on without perilous consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 08:59 PM
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Seems like they can make some utility out of their illness if they keep themselves out of trouble for long enough. Creating quite a deep attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:32 AM
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So initially they seem like worthy potential partners, before the inevitable realisation kicks in?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 08:44 PM
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In contrast my ex was a BPD emotion volcano. He made sure I always knew exactly what was going on in his head. He used his feelz to justify being a lying cheater and kept me around because I was a good emotional tampon, so emotional availability isn't always a good thing. What's your summary of being with a BPD male in a monogamous relationship context? Not too many of those stories around. I know Atlas mentioned something along the lines of they're like crack. Which I assume to mean they are qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 07:56 PM
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Intellect is second to instinct. Neurologically, the neocortex is always the first to power down during stress or impairment. Could you expand on how this relates back to men opting for the most attractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 12:01 PM
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I still don't comprehend the delineation oft made on this sub between sigmas and omegas. The qualities are more often than not, interchangeable, although omegas are talked down to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 11:58 PM
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To be fair, his work is incredibly dense, and the comprehension on his main arguments are heavily reliant on consuming the series of his works, so there is something to that sentiment. However, if you're a person without that much time on your ends, I'd agree, he may not be for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 08:40 PM
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Most men fall into that camp it would appear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 08:45 PM
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Pretty rare for a young dude to keep the notion of marriage in his head. Why do you think you did that? Are you very traditionally minded?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 07:32 PM
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I never said anything about not trying to work together. Marriage is all about work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 01:48 PM
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I wasn’t just talking about marriages. But even so, one must keep a healthy degree of power otherwise one individual will be subject to manipulation. The dynamic in a marriage does indeed depend on conceding, for the purpose of the ‘bigger win’ - but there’s a ratio to try and keep before you just keep losing and thus ending up in a failed relationship because no boundaries were set.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 12:58 PM
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The argument to your last point is that when the woman has an upper hand in a relationship, the man is miserable. But yes, there’s a delineation between dread and abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 05:06 PM
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Some ladies have mentioned they’d forego one arena here so was just enquiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 04:38 PM
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Very astute point. Yes I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 03:20 PM
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So should the man brained ladies go without children, to focus on career goals and creative pursuits, or will they wish to occupy both domestic and vocational territories?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 03:20 PM
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when they are longing for self-actualizing work Do you feel women have the same urge to self-actualize? Do you think that men and women have different perspectives on what self-actualizing means? Not a loaded question, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 08:50 PM
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clearly. but in the context you depicted, it's a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 06:01 PM
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Do people want to wait until they find out they have to die alone
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 05:25 PM
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I'd say those men who 'speak the truth'... as trite as that sounds. The hyper masculine prototypical males still exist, (as in the ones that evolutionarily signalled they were 'most desirable') although in the workplace and in many social situations they tone it down - and they don't necessarily verbalise their true thoughts. Those that possess all classical male authoritative traits, and speak the truth gain the respect of subordinate males due to the societal context it is spoken in. They serv…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:53 PM
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But functioning in said social system is the salient point here. Just being able to reproduce by proxy of being able to isn't. And I'd disagree. There isn't evidence readily available that suggests men at the bottom rung of the ladder are reproducing rampantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:50 PM
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I think it's a decent way of describing it, wouldn't necessarily say 'better'. Both do the job of depicting the dynamic well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:48 PM
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Do women consciously understand they are attracted to the men who have been 'greenlit' by other males in said hierarchies?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:47 PM
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Its why tradcon is not a solution. Don't we all know this is just a means to an end though? Was it ever postulated to be the solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 06:50 PM
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The "attractors they are consciously aware of" tend to be idiosyncratic to the woman. So what we are really arguing about is women's lack of self-analysis on the topic? Because me taking the datum you've put forward, is at the end of the day, coming from a dude and not any of them. I think only Atlas has ever really been exact enough on this point for my semi-autist brain to be satisfied with, and even then it's not precise enough And I'll take all the science I can get on this thanks mate. Alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 08:55 PM
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I'm not debating what rp says is what is necessary for male attractiveness, I was saying how it fluctuates amongst the different kinds of woman present here. The debate is never ending, yet with female attractiveness it's easy to conclude 'she must be attractive' - females then know where they stand - for females there is no applicable axiom because they all depend on unique variables
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 08:36 PM
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Still not worth the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 08:06 PM
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It's not possible. There's no point where a woman will tolerate weakness in a man. Whilst it might be righteous to express emotion, it won't be remembered well. So it's just not worth the risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 07:55 PM
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sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 07:53 PM
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Guys go for the looks... Women go for other factors as well as looks. But this is what keeps getting debated. Women say looks matter, then also say looks do not, if he's got other shit going for him. How can they 'date down' if he ain't attractive enough for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 07:49 PM
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We agree then. It only works to say what he wants (sex) because he’s a surgeon. I thought you were condoning other less good looking dudes to demand sex and that only to lay their cards on the table. That wouldn’t work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 02:01 PM
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They do get just a little bit long though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 11:45 AM
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I think maybe you are approaching causally dating these women while there remains some level of plausibility for a relationship. Reduce plausibility as much as possible. This of course only applies to good looking surgeons right? You wouldn't recommend this game plan to normal looking guy with little income would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 11:36 AM
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I reckon BPD males have a great roll of the dice then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:50 PM
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Classically, it's said that intj are clueless in their romantic life. Do you feel you differ in this area? Also, I'm assuming by saying bpd males are like crack, you mean they're exciting and cause a lot of intense feelings in the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:44 PM
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Underrated ref
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 01:03 PM
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How does a woman gauge this properly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 05:12 PM
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Isn’t all morality just learned behaviour? I could’ve sworn we discussed your view on value ethics and virtue and you said anything goes, whichever route gets you the best for you etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 11:46 AM
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Other than the disproportionate amount of males killing themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 11:57 AM
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That sums it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 09:36 PM
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What's wrong with meeting women through it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 06:36 PM
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You still have to eventually meet to make progress, and then do everything you would’ve had to have done if you didn’t utilise the app to encounter each other. In other words, it still requires work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 06:13 PM
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To your last paragraph: mostly because it’s a recipe for disaster in a relationship dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 04:48 PM
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‘You can sit comfortably on your dating app’
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 04:35 PM
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What’s the part of in dating apps meaning? I don’t understand that sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 12:24 PM
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What are the distinctions between the easy way or hard way?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 12:12 PM
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There’s been a misunderstanding here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 06:59 PM
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Nope. Men couldn’t care less about behaviour until it comes to the point where there’s a desire for ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:36 PM
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Huh, sexual market value for males is mostly behaviour over looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 07:14 AM
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It’s a little like when the ladies present here suggest men are being obtuse for trying to explain their sexuality to them. You’re doing the same. However yes, that strategy is on avg a fine strategy. But it doesn’t discount my point which was many men will still fade away after sex has been gained.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 07:13 AM
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Aptly put
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 11:47 AM
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I didn’t think you were a male? You’d think many men would do the above, and on average that may be true. Certainly even likelier if they are below the top percentile of really attractive men. But there’s many that will still dip after sex has been attained. Especially younger men ~25. The urge to be promiscuous is far too hard to resist before that age and if they’re attractive enough they do not need to settle down with her regardless of his emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 07:13 AM
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I honestly can’t wrap my head around that overly long and slightly muddled question, perhaps it’s just my weary brain - but can you simplify that please?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 07:09 AM
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All the above is true, I wouldn’t dispute any of that. But those values were still very much at the crux of our value system (whether the West always abided by their own value system is another matter).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 07:05 AM
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Do you think it's easier for a woman to inspire love in a man than the reverse?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 09:36 PM
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You and I may disagree here, but many other woman consistently vocalise the fact that men aren't just attractive to them by displaying purely physical value only.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 09:32 PM
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Don't be silly. We're interested in being connected with women, to be in harmony with one another. There's just a lot of work to do to make the dynamic function well and that can be challenging. But we're willingly doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 09:23 PM
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I can see that he has abundance by virtue of having great bone structure and features. Abundance mentality, and actually having value is much more than high cheekbones and a solid jaw. If the man has a weak frame, pitiful character and is an emotional mess with no money he isn't a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 09:18 PM
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If you're smart you'll never upgrade a chick you haven't banged insanely early. If you're smart, you wouldn't upgrade and go fourth looking for another woman if she didn't bang early on?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 09:16 PM
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This is exactly what Jordan Peterson, clinical psychologist, theorizes, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 09:08 PM
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Congrats bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 09:07 PM
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Advertising?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 09:05 PM
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Both things are entirely my fault and something I have to actively work on all the time. At least you're very self-aware and are actively working on this aspect of yourself. Kudos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 09:02 PM
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Well, fundamentally, it's those values that made Western Civ so prosperous and great to live in. Plus it's the basis of our culture, religion in the Western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 09:00 PM
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It's the same process; as far as I can see - depicted by two different sides of the coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 08:57 PM
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I’ve never found it difficult to inspire romantic love in the men I wanted to inspire it in. That's an interesting sentence. Want to expand? Do you think you can influence the process?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 08:51 PM
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This is your most spot on observation up to this point I think. Couldn't be more true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 08:50 PM
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Ill watch it. You’ll hear my wrath if it disappoints
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 07:03 PM
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Didn’t you say you didn’t like swarthy dudes? I haven’t. But I trust your filmic recommendations shall I’ll check it out?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:35 PM
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Nah I’m kinda tan. Like Viggo complexion. Even darker in summer. But I think it’s just people who ain’t that attractive who suffer from this phenomenon. Dudes who are handsome and have the presence and character aren’t subject to such delays if they’re under 25/26 ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:31 PM
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Nope. British.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:22 PM
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It’s bs. I can’t think of the last date I went on where the girl didn’t have sex on the first or second date. It’s especially prominent if the girl is a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:15 PM
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A guy who really finds the woman attractive, and wants to bed her, will wait however long and then fade out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 07:36 AM
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I’ve always looked for good women, nothing has changed in that criteria. Most women I’ve had casual short relationships with have been anti children
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 09:14 AM
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If a dude wants to have sex with a woman, and only that, it will not change the odds of him leaving after they've had sex. fucking on first date or on the 8th will have the same result - he'll bounce after he gets what he wants. so for those who think that 'well he's waited 2 months already so surely he's invested in me more than just for sex sake' are mistaken. Men's minds, as we know are ultra focused when it comes to bringing about a desired result (like you know atlas given your recent discu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 09:11 PM
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This suggests as a male I haven't at some point had to change the way I treat them to increase likelihood of sex. But in the context you're asking there, that simply wouldn't occur. According to women, I'm fairly high in physical attractiveness, so I hit that marker - passed stage 1 - and I know how to carry myself; and am doing fairly well socioeconomically. So sex happens with little effort at this point. However I'm seeking a long term partner to have children with. So now the question is mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 09:01 PM
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How was she supposed to know those guys had crushes on her if they never made a move, how does she see those men as options when she doesn't even know those men are interested in dating them? They'll make themselves known inevitably. At least a couple will have the balls to make a move after lusting after her since day one. You may be accurate on the friendzoned ones. But many men can turn that around and make her see them in a different light. Happens all the time, women say 'then I saw him fix…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 08:55 PM
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Not a 'reward,' per se. Although it is rewarding. Getting sex is more of a signifier that I'm doing things right. Hitting all the touchstones in life. It's more 'fruits of labour' than a gifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 08:52 PM
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you see me doing that? A woman age 25-30 options are never dwindling if she's avg in the looks dept She still has access to all the colleagues who secretly crush on her, her friendzoned guy friends who've crush on her for their entire friendship (there's even dudes in this thread touching on that specific angle), and her friends of friends who can easily be recommended as dates once they've been vetted by mutual girlfriends it's after mid 30s that things decline slightly, not 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 08:40 PM
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Lol. Everyone is so on edge on this sub that we're always talking to projections
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 08:36 PM
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Affirmative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 04:54 PM
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It's rare because so many people settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 04:53 PM
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Maybe. But considering so much of the courtship process now starts online, it's not so flawed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 04:47 PM
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I'm not personally, but its probably because all the women here say that it isn't good enough for him to be a 10/10, smoke show - and that he needs to have a whole range of internal attributes simultaneously
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 04:38 PM
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What nuanced creatures you are
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 05:02 PM
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I’d find a decent link but I’m at work. Avoidant: Basically you push people away once they appear too emotionally invested because it makes you feel uneasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 01:57 PM
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Solid theory Grid
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:15 AM
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Can I ask, why didn’t you think of something more interesting to say than that? Girls never respond to that as it’s not engaging when men ask, so don’t you feel like you should put more effort in too?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:13 AM
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What the above commenter said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:11 AM
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It was very weird to be the one initiating conversation - coming up with a clever opener, wondering if he’s gonna respond. It felt like some sort of alternate universe. Challenging isn't it! Personally, I do quite well on it and I appreciate the fact that since they've initiated you know for sure they're into you. This means there's less time wasters and flakers on it, ime. I enjoy seeing how uninspiring some girls are, it's funny since they're so demanding on Tinder with bios like "Be funny".."…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:32 PM
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Dude did get 3 chicks to marry him, and had women on tap through the whole show shrugs, he did aight
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:09 PM
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Marta Kauffman and Alexa Junge were frequent writers, but I get your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:08 PM
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Interesting to hear such a negative perspective mate. I can definitely see how it would be however. But sometimes, when I walk past girls and there's some spark there, it always feels like a waste to just pass and not do shit. This is why I wanna just trial it out for a month or so this summer and see if I burn and die a death or get something out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:05 PM
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That's a strange thing I've encountered too. Ridiculously attractive demographic, and all seem more socioeconomically refined. Still, doesn't really make much sense being on that one if you don't dig messaging dudes tbf.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:03 PM
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What sucked so bad for you? As someone who's feeling tired of the sheer amount of time I spend courting on apps, and in social situations, I want to try more approaches this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 06:13 PM
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They’ve always reached that point first or expressed it first IME. Are you quite avoidant? Attachment style wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 06:03 PM
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During my brief foray into dating apps I tried Bumble (the app where only women are allowed to initiate conversation) and I hated being in the position of making the first move. Why did you try that one instead of the other ones where you weren't having to be burdened like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 06:00 PM
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Interesting q OP, but it’s hard for me to say because I’ve never approached a man for just sex. If you mean rejected for anything romantic The inference here is that all males are approaching women just for sex. At this point in my life, I'm approaching for a variety of reasons, if at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 05:58 PM
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Why in Friends, was Rachel ever into that neurotic mess Ross? After two decades, and frequent rewatches, it's still an algebraic equation that cannot be deciphered.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 05:57 PM
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When was that? Let’s do that again
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 08:38 PM
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I’d throw in low industriousness/conscientiousness too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 08:37 PM
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It’s a fact. But still a fact that’s hard to reconcile considering we place so much emphasis on hypergamy. You’d think with all this discernment applied to male selection they’d be able to have a child with a worthy father who won’t abandon their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 08:35 PM
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I've always been interested to discover why White Europeans, specifically Scandis are such specimens, genetically speaking. It's insane how the ratios differ when comparing them to say Brits, or even the French. Especially facial symmetry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 12:56 PM
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biology or social convention? They work in conjunction with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 12:50 PM
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Pretty damming to the female imperative if you ask me. Why do you feel that way specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 11:06 AM
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and act cold. Ah this old diddy. I've always understood the aversion to eye contact, but why do you ladies add in the cold component? It's interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 10:58 AM
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Clearly not, take Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin for example
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 10:54 AM
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I always like your story, I don't know why really. But it shows that there's a bigger aspect to love that we can't put our finger on. As it seems to linger around for some people to a point where even if there's been massive gaps in time, the two come together eventually for reasons almost inexplicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 10:17 PM
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readign and thinking all day then arguing with people, followed by a little crafting So familiar, yet so autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 08:03 PM
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Women don't ask usually in my experience. However if they did, I'm sure they wouldn't be over the moon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 09:59 AM
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Seniors in advertising are some of the most lost people when it comes to romantic relations. It's a fuckfest in agencies - fun and all - but no one seems to be happy with just screwing around once they realise working such crazy hours gets pretty lonely once the 'party's over,' and there's no one at home waiting for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 05:32 PM
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That may be the case - but it doesn’t change the fact that notifying them how many girls I’ve been with has a negative impact on my success with those types of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 03:48 PM
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Your last paragraphs sums it up accurately I think. At the end of the day, my aim has now switched; I still wish to experience sex with beautiful women, to an extent. But because I know I want to have children and find a competent partner able to raise them, the dullness has begun to creep in after casual sex. And this goal has become the new primary modus operandi.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 03:44 PM
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So the inference here is, to sleep around gratifies our innate biological imperative but we'll* feel the inevitable lack? What is that lack?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 03:44 PM
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The older I got, the more traditional/religious women appealed to my sensibilities. I find they do not end up in the same circles as you without effort, so as a man, you do have to keep your promiscuity on the back burner when courting those types imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 02:28 PM
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because it just feels weird at a point. Not hollow, but the enjoyment isn't the same and the desire isn't the same. The desire to have sex is always there but intimacy levels completely disappear and I don't even want to lay around or hug after. This is an accurate depiction of what I've experienced. Sometimes when the woman is a lot more connected to the experience more than I, it can get quite hollow. Sometimes it's easy to say "doesn't matter had sex" and you feel like a god for a few days, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 02:21 PM
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I'd agree with your analysis. I think those men that want a family and a wife, and can see the vision of their ideal in their minds-eye, and continue to sleep around casually, are indeed doing themselves no favours though. As partnering up sooner rather than later in hopes to find a decent mate is much more advantageous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 01:10 PM
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Hard to say conclusively that I've always enjoyed sex more in a relationship than during casual encounters. But overall yes, it's a better experience. However I'm not exactly saying this run of casual sex I've had has left me empty and thus makes me want to jump into a relationship again to make sex seem better. In fact, after dating many woman and sleeping around, I tend to find their interest in wanting to make it long-term unappealing, so I break things off. So it's a strange middle ground I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 01:07 PM
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Great film. But what do the leads possess trait wise that make them catches to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 01:07 PM
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What about men losing their hair? You wouldn't say that is equivalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 09:11 PM
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No, it isn't but the reason I brought it up in the male context is because despite how harsh it is, knowing your man was dominated, abused, early in his life, doesn't make the woman feel the same way about her man as a man feels towards the woman. The protection/preservation instinct is much stronger in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:20 PM
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Agreed, I fleshed it out more as your "No" wasn't sufficient imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:29 PM
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In the stages of valour and true male adversity, i.e. returning from heinous acts of war, moments of sensitivity can be quite rewarding for the male. When the woman knows how heroic her partner really is, the one off tear shedding isn't entirely devastating. But like I said, it's an impossibly intricate process, and requires tact. In the wrong context it can be devastating as you are probably thinking to. As OP states she despises weakness and when her partner enters her frame and abandons his o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:13 PM
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A man shouldn't need to be "reigned in" by his partner. He should be grounded and also able to walk away from destructive women, who are as you term them, unhinged. Being the rock doesn't mean you tolerate needless hysteria or manic irrationality. It just means you are unmoved by your partner's actions - and exist in your own field of space, psychological and emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:09 PM
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I also think you'd benefit (anyone interested in female-male dynamics, actually) to seriously consider the work of Carl Jung and his writings on the Anima and Animus. Fascinating and illuminating stuff that conveys the destructive natures of the masculine and feminine psyches.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:04 PM
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There actually is. I'd call it Stoic Openness. But it's such an intricate process that it would take a very long OP too depict it. I may try this when I have more time at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:02 PM
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"Turning off" self-assured behaviour is always putting you in a worse off place. And as a corollary, you shouldn't be having to act self-assured, you should actually be wholly self-servant and command a presence that is an organic by product of having your shit together. If it's all an act, an image, it will crumble, eventually. And it will hurt you more than anyone else. I'd say letting yourself be too emotionally open is always a move that will prove too hazardous to warrant doing it. Given th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 02:58 PM
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They value meaningless sex with hot guys, who don't possess any of the other components that make up female attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 02:46 PM
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Men sacrifice the things they value for women, but since women don't value it, it's like meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 01:21 PM
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So do women not care that a male has sacrificed getting with other females for her, and committed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 10:29 AM
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It's a burden a man must carry, despite how hard it seems. If there's only one hard and fast "RP" truism, it's that when a woman loses her respect for you, it's time to buy a tombstone for that relationship. What's the solution to the loss of respect in a relationship for a male? Prevention. There is no solution once it's occured. Its the beginning of the end no matter which way you look at it. To prevent it from happening in the first place is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:29 PM
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It's not similar. Only similar in the fact that it's a request. Asking you to 'be more masculine' and asking a dude to clothe themselves more fancily are whole quantum leaps of not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:27 PM
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You can't undo those types of carnal errors as a male. A woman always remembers these types of faults, and it has a lasting impact
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:25 PM
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but we aren’t supposed to tell our partners if something has started to become a problem? I don't think anyone is stating things to that extreme, more the fact that when a woman has to have a conversation with her man, where it goes something like "You have to be more masculine" it's so general, and so viscerally offensive, on a carnal level that the relationship is not really salvageable. It cuts deep into the male's core. And that will leave remnants on the future of the coupledom I think. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:23 PM
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I oftentimes hear from men that women should date potential Since when do women take advice from men about what women need?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:20 PM
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his entire tenor has been one of moral outrage over female nature for years That's fair. I don't think you're wrong, just slightly erroneous. It gets my goat when people paraphrase the shit I've said and warp the context in which it's been said. So naturally I have a stickler for when people embellish someone else's view just for the sake of it. A forum as reliant on nuance and detail as this one, doesn't need anyone's perspective amplified anymore than it is already
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 08:28 PM
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They're essentially surrogate fathers to a generation of lost, disorientated boys and it's profound, yet deeply sad. As well as simultaneously remarkably positive for this generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 08:22 PM
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What's the alternative to climbing said ladder, in whichever sector you exist in? Don't compete, and be broke and low on the dominance hierarchy in society and flounder, both economically and romantically?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 08:20 PM
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I blame my parents, father in particular. The shit dads who left didn't do any wonders for young boys either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 08:17 PM
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He ain't ever used those words, Pem is very careful with his words - but I guess you mean he's perpetually insinuated they are morally dubious?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 08:16 PM
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I will say I think men tend to blame externalities rather than internally versus women. I do think that's interesting. As I'm under the impression men blame themselves for most things that go wrong - and thus fall into traps of hopelessness. I'm surrounded by depressives at work. When they need to be focusing on their missteps and correct them, with vigour and renewed energy. Good to get your take as always.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 09:50 PM
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men are introspective when they are not getting what they want romance-wise. The broader point is though, if men aren't getting nourished in the romance area, they tend to have to become more introspective all round. Because most things, if not all things men pursue are to serve this purpose. So I just think naturally men have to be very self-conscious of their faults, and really stew on self-conceptualisation a bit more, thoroughly and rigorously. No, sorry you are explaining it well. I do not …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 09:32 PM
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Here's an issue that keeps cropping up, in one form or another. Sublime, don't you feel that this not knowing what makes their attraction tic is due to lack of will to introspect? I know you'd retort with 'not many people have a proneness to introspect' but I feel that women more so than men, have a tendency to steer away from analysing things on a deep level. If a man doesn't get where he'd like in the dating marketplace, he needs to fix up and correct those issues with haste. I'd say a convent…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 09:10 PM
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Nothing. I never made a statement proclaiming my level of intellect. And your absurdly sarcastic remarks are completely unnecessary. I’m constantly building towards the highest good I can before I demand the same from a partner. You know nothing of my attempts at bettering myself. You’re from the JBP sub too, I don’t see your reasons for acting like a presumptive, needless provocateur. Project on me all you like, I’m not the archetypal male complainer. In fact I’ve not complained here at all. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 12:51 PM
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women should learn to introspect deeply I found all my past partners were not particularly great at this past time. Thinking introspectively was almost an incomprehensibly meaningless activity for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 09:26 PM
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He sounds like me. It's difficult to gauge your future self as an introverted type. You might say you're down for plans weeks prior and then just home the day of and be like "nah really not feeling up to doing this shit tonight". You sound pretty malleable about which is cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 08:06 PM
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Does it ever feel like youre missing out on things, or that you're having to actively be less social because his introversion?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 07:54 PM
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10 drinks doesn't necessitate having a penis failure, fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 07:24 PM
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Sell the idea that when men move on to something more attractive, they often regret not pairing up with the SMV5 that really connected with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 08:44 AM
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I would agree. Maybe I'll make one. But it's too much of a grey area to discuss at length. There's no real way to ever get clarified conclusions when you're living one of those realities. But I'd say the latter is worse. That type of regret is more irritating. Plus it means your whole world view was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 10:00 PM
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Sarcasm or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 09:38 PM
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I guess there's two different mindsets about it, one born from regret, the other born of fear. Fear would be "I don't know I can find anything better but I want something better," I think. Which isn't to say that's bad or even necessarily inaccurate. The truth hurts. It's learning to live with those truths instead of letting them rot inside you. You make mistakes, you just hope you don't make those mistakes you make are regarding your partners as that's very muddy territory to tread. Make the de…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 08:27 PM
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It gets easier when you're older and married but at that point being friends with the opposite sex is less important. Hm, that last bit got me curious, how come that changes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 08:06 PM
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I know some ppl don't mind living alone but I'm not one of them. You say this often. What do you dig about living with a dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 08:02 PM
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Wait the lower SMV woman didn't make you excitable... Correct. Didn't feel any buzz. The attractive women get me going, but fucking hell, sometimes when I'm talking to them, and then having pillow talk the morning after...sigh. Physical attraction is a deceptive mistress. f you're saying prioritize other factors than attraction I'd disagree with that. IMO, you should try and prioritize other factors in addition to attraction. If you can prioritize in such a way, why not do it? Because you're rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 07:53 PM
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I don't have as high standards as many on here, many photos of 5-6s on here I find myself attracted to. I'm pretty much attracted to a symmetrical faces as are most, but if that's a go, then I'm satisfied. But yes, because other women have propositioned me of a higher... threshold I knew I could pair up with someone more attractive, and she just didn't make me feel excitable is all, and had no curves at all (I like plumper types). I see your point, if you're not palpably attracted to them physic…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 07:27 PM
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This is an issue I'm conflicted about, as I've gone on to regret not pairing up with someone who simply wasn't very attractive but was a very fitting female counterpart. Gin said this the other day when I posted a question about settling, "I think if you really take the time to do some introspection and really think about what you need in a relationship, you can be happy with your choice. Most people only have two or three true needs; when those are met, it makes the other stuff seem much less i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:26 PM
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You wrote a lot of decent threads back in the day. How come the long break?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 10:11 PM
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any other fictional pussies you can think of?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 09:46 PM
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You girls and your hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 09:45 PM
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You mean no? Or are being sarcastic?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 08:22 PM
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It's crass, but most people often hold physical attraction as the primary component of dedicating themselves to one person so this can be difficult especially in one's 20s. However, I largely agree with your conclusion. I would say it's true, and that many make a mistake of letting a person go who they didn't find attractive but had common ground with that could have enabled something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:16 PM
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This'll lead to regret either way in my eyes. Most think they aren't good enough and settle. Therefore you're bound to suffer with that choice, it will niggle at you over time. The analog to that is that those who don't settle and look to acquire that perfect ideal, tend not get it in the end, and regret not pairing up with that person who they deemed not worthwhile back in the past. I don't know which is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:28 PM
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So everyone settles for someone less than what they feel they are valued at?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:32 PM
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I would agree. Accepting less than what you deem yourself valued at. But I think some may overvalue themselves and then encounter predicaments due to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:31 PM
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I think the detail that you don't want kids or marriage is notable. But there are still women who want both those things and find younger men and make them there's they're the ones that made me submit the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 01:44 PM
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You can't, and I didn't say I could. I said it's the trope, one that women often are vocal about. You often hear how younger guys aren't as affable or cultured or simply lack the depth, but it is mostly unfounded, if you also include those younger men who have the same level of charisma and the accesories as their older counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 01:39 PM
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The trope of older men being a more rational, logical answer for a ltr then you're saying is essentially erroneous then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 01:34 PM
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Hotness over any other aspect of self, i.e. sense of humour etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 01:30 PM
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So their relative inexperience was ultimately more advantageous for them, leading you to find them more welcome company over the more mature men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 01:29 PM
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That many men who could do better online, do not. Simply by default of not taking advantage of technology to the degree females do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:11 AM
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A woman can choose not be overt about it. People don't have to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 10:05 PM
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you will toil in squalor I dig that 19th century-esque tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 08:32 PM
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Why did ol' Pemster change his name?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:44 AM
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Most men are bothered by n count. The men that aren't are more rare than abundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:42 AM
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Does being prone to be being aggressive more often than not make a male alpha? That's weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:41 AM
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Til Adrenaline makes women weaker. Expand...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 06:42 PM
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You'd be surprised and sometimes underwhelmed by what most men look at. Sometimes girls can get offended by what their men watch because it's so not extraordinary. There's a lot to be said about lowkey homely porn which is quite popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 06:40 PM
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You didn't excuse him, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 06:38 PM
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We all like to be noticed, and seen as an individual, whose beliefs are well informed. And we go to exceptional lengths to make ourselves feel comfortable that what we feel is the way of things, is the way of things. People become more steadfast in their beliefs if they are threatened. It's the basis of terror management theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 06:37 PM
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Success in any aspect of life, is dependent on courage and boldness. Willing to be uncomfortable in an arena in order to reaps rewards is what it's all about to self-actualize and live optimally. I don't see dating to be a foreign marketplace to business or anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 06:41 PM
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to argue with lefty feminists who dont accept disgust as an argument Which is quite egregious since disgust is one of the main currencies bandied around in the uber leftist marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 07:45 PM
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You have fine taste. Also, what is that phenomenon called when freckles merge? A lot of gingers have this is it something related to keratin? Their skin often turns slightly tan colored.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 06:30 PM
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50% of men is incredibly ambitious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 06:16 PM
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I don't know, reading people's reactions made me irrationally mad at how this is noteworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 06:59 PM
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How has this scientific truth (I'm trusting that this is true since you disseminated actual studies on this) no completely proliferated the /nofap crowd?
/r/askTRP28/01/17 12:35 PM
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nofap is so stupid. It lowers your testo. Can you simplify the literature you've read on this? How does it lower testosterone?
/r/askTRP28/01/17 11:08 AM
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knwo exactly when it started. in the 80-90s the hump of the baby boomer divorcees started fucking boomers strike again
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 09:11 PM
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For fucking sake no, but I'm as far from feminism as it gets. You sound great.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 09:04 PM
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Straight answer, finally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:54 PM
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several other women Or 97% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:53 PM
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You wrote an insightful response, but didn't answer. What if he emoted exacly like a woman, and cried all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:52 PM
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Exactly. None of us are "normies". We're spending time discussing weird social dynamics on a weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 08:38 PM
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Nevermind gender, you think it's normal, perfectly average, to be debating these things in an online forum? I don't. What do 98.9% of your peers, friends, family, colleagues do in their spare time, at weekends? Doubt lurking on ppd is their go to leisure activity sublime.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 08:36 PM
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Probably the guy with more experience. Usually the most sexual experience comes from LTRs. Maybe. But the dude has had one intense, long love affair with one girl, who perhaps has always steered him away from eating her out because she's too sensitive about her nether regions, or she simply doesn't enjoy it, won't provide great data for the dude to carry elsewhere on his future escapades. If he happens to encounter girls who love oral sex being performed on her, just as one example. So a well tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 08:31 PM
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not after you've hammered it home with your muddied up cowboy ref pics
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 08:21 PM
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Why would men lie about this. Of course mutual enjoyability is a plus
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 08:20 PM
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You can be very sexually attracted to a man who isn't as physically attractive as the mythical Chad. That's what they don't understand. There's not any confusion on that, it's not incomprehensible. It just happens less often than a woman finding a very attractive man (conventionally speaking) happens. RP aren't unable to see that there is nuance to the generalities. Simply, they find more value in analysing the tropes instead of the less common occurrences. Most of you girls on here aren't the '…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 08:12 PM
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Didn't Lewis clear this up in his rebuttal? We don't act like we don't like Stacies. They are appealing, and we want to fuck them, he said this in his post. There was a point I forgot to make, the biggest one that I see incels and new generation red pullers whining about No, all incels, no real rp, who's done his fucking reading will complain about this. they'd man up and accept they weren't worth fucking and do somethin about it. Again, which has been said for eternity, REAL rp "niggas" accept …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:54 PM
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I get the vibe from your post that you would like to just push your agenda or beliefs onto others. Just from AH? That's practically the manifesto of everyone on here. Fair debate in the spirit of gaining more knowledge isn't exactly rife
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 09:38 PM
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You're an outlier on yet another common trope! congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 09:24 PM
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enlighten me, yo, I keep seeing this in joke go over my head where does your flair originate from?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 08:43 PM
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Think he meant Seth Rogan. Just got the individual who runs in the same circles/same stoner films, mixed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 08:38 PM
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crave constant attention, get mad at you when you do anything social without them, and just portray overall neediness. sound appetising?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:42 PM
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an ugly guy might be able to get a hot girlfriend, but he'll have a hard getting casual sex with many women. From what we can learn from this place, is that women ltr with dudes they consider less attractive than them. Therefore the dude who can get regular sex in an ltr is doing better than the guy who cant get any.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:41 PM
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Hellboy > Predator?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:39 PM
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Nah, male attraction is just a very broad spectrum. Those a man would have sex with. Those a man wouldn't have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:36 PM
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In other words weak men, that should be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:33 PM
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so it's not hopeless like you're trying to make it seem missed my point maybe, i'm not saying it's hopeless. theres clearly a resurgence of men who want to stand up for their rights now and not just be yelled at by feminists for being male. just that theres a threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:03 PM
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ikr is there one band who were all completely sober you can actually say you dug
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:27 PM
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yeh i didn't presume that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 03:38 PM
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I don't want to be mean to my past partners as I really did (sometimes still do) think they were very attractive. However none of them seem to fit the definition of a "chad" why would that be mean, you guys always say that chads aren't attractive anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 03:22 PM
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Appears to be a common thing on here though, you incl. where I've heard "all my bfs have been less attractive to me".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 03:19 PM
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i'd agree
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:59 PM
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i just clarified that we are essentially talking about fourth wave now given your previous comment. are you not aware of the ways in which boys are regularly tested on both their in class behaviour and academic test scores now? boys being tested on this puts them at a disadvantage, unless you are negating male predisposition to adhd and other disorders where inability to hyperfocus is nominal. there is strong evidence for a genetic predisposition to ADHD with, look it up
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:58 PM
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ok then, we're talking about the gender that you could suggest is more emotional cruel/venomous of course saying generally, in a broader sense would be pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:54 PM
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there wasn't any judgment being made on my part re: men lashing out. just saying to expect equality, true equality, is naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:53 PM
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ok fine, unless you're assigning third wave feminism with the early 1990s and ending in 2014ish, then what I said is accurate. Although technically we're in the fourth wave now, and all the changes happening in schools (that are primarily leading to girls excelling and boys less so) so in this case, ignore the last comment, we're really seeing the fourth wave taking off now
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:51 PM
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Feminists would often argue against this kind of teaching. as a third wave feminist you should be very aware that those of your ilk are doing everything to negate actual equality, especially in schooling, where being a boy isn't conducive to excelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:42 PM
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nature makes these decisions, not people. the female of any species never gets treated the same. they are life givers and therefore will always be preserved in preference to men, who will always be more disposable
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:39 PM
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We're talking specifically about emotional cruelness, let's say
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:36 PM
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half of the hardcore scene if not more were straight edge
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:25 PM
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She's in her 40s, you don't really change your views drastically by this time. You've spent four decades noticing patterns and have established your views, unless something really profound comes along - you aint picking up anything you havent already realised or hashed out. not that that should be the way things go necessarily, but it is. its human's have always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:22 PM
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Thom Yorke Bit unfair, his ltr jus died and shit. At least now his perpetual melancholy is just.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:10 PM
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I don't think most bloops are interested in focusing on shitting on low value men. Everyone goes after low value men. It's in human nature to highlight and punish weakness or lack of value. It's why it's innate to see lesser good looking as less worthy. There's studies where people with more attractive partners are valued more highly than those with unattractive partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:07 PM
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where I disagree is that this is a gender thing that applies to women as a rule. Which do you tend to think are disproportionately more "cruel," women or men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 02:04 PM
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Wasn't trying to take the piss, just contradictory info yano.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:45 PM
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You say early but then say second date is questionable?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:34 PM
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Hm, good little hypothetical. I couldn't say with confidence that strong silent Chad has more success, as in generally. Simply because the output and striving for Mr Pop would equate to more reward. Difficult to be conclusive about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:18 PM
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If they don't like you, they ghost. cool to hear you think that's the best way of dealing with things
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:14 PM
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For me it's definitely going to come in as a priority however. If they don't have any of what you mention or it's nominal, then being uber social can only aid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:06 PM
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It was hardly a extro shaming thread. the message I took away was that generally dudes can't hack keeping up a relationship with an uber extro chick. I'm sure you're able to do well socially by being accommodating and charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:05 PM
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The utter heartbreak and loss I felt after I left my second BF (now my husband) fits closest to the concept of "alpha widowhood" if we are using RP theory. He wasn't "alpha", however, in the stereotypical sense of the word, he is a high beta. Even then it still applies to some extent due to the feeling of burning intensity. I'm not so much concerned with the alpha assignment, more on how women feel the female equivalent of oneitis. Which you've depicted well. I find your story fascinating. And t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 06:45 PM
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But you haven't responded to either of my main points: Many more people - again, both men and women - avoid that trap. Some get back together with the person they're carrying a torch for, others forget about them as soon as a new romance enters their life, still others just forget with time - as they still feel intensely for the last guy who made them feel intensity unlike any other guy. Those aren't the only two options. And neither of them constitute alpha widowhood. The latter constitutes wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 06:38 PM
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Are there some people so hung up on their ex's/former flames/the one who got away that they can't fully commit themselves to a new relationship? Sure. Plenty of men and women fall into that camp. No one's denying that they exist. I wasn't positing that question, that certainly needs not to be up for debate. It's more specifically finding out whether the concept of alpha widowhood is empirically sound as a concept. What I'm denying - and what many women deny - the inevitability of alpha widowhood…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 04:03 PM
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Perhaps. Many women allude to the feeling, that it is overwhelmingly at their felt during PEAK attraction to the man in question, and that if he bails at that APEX moment, then she'll long for him. However, in regards to your theory that it is merely their first love, I don't buy it. Plenty of women state that it was the first one they connected with on a visceral level. Not necessarily the first one in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 03:58 PM
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Full comment, thanks for that. He certainly seemed to go against the conventional chad type that is intimated by the use of "alpha widow". Most definitely a beta, and an psychologically abusive one at that. Which makes me think in general, the whole dynamic was very much unhealthy and abusive. the truth was, he basically rejected me. Rejection hurts - especially when it's on such a deep, intimate level. This is interesting. I don't feel that women generally can cope with this feeling, and it ten…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 03:55 PM
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I would rather live in the present moment rather than lug around a packpack that size. Anyone would. I think the women in the example and others external to it, are simply unable to be that level headed, or something keeps them from ceasing to be involved with the idea of the dissolution with someone they counted as a top tier catch for myriad reason. i.e. great sex (Crack Dick), "connection" they describe almost mystically, or 10 looks, etc that kind of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 02:06 PM
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I kinda think it's all crap. Great, the whole thing I'm interested in isn't what wastoid dudes think - yes the concept does enable shitty catches to keep their ego - it's the differing opinions on the concept that women have that is curious. You're clearly on the "nope, no such thing" end of the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 02:03 PM
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Mental and physical strength that is unrivaled. Ability to be both protective and loving in a way, that again, can't be matched by a woman's love; which lacks a certain all encompassing feeling of comfort and safety in a hetero dynamic. Male stoicism - brooding, and often a pivotal role in female attraction. In modern society it's still very much imperative that the man can carry the courting process independently, without fear of rejection. Providing financial security despite not being the sol…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 11:18 AM
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Yeah, it's difficult to be articulate, the wording doesn't quite hold true in your case as you say. But it's a fine line, let's say, that you've identified, and can see distinct beneficial effects from treading along. The same type of line a man must tread in a much different way for him to see benefits in his relationship with a woman i.e. not going beyond the lowest threshold of coming across as weak/infirm. Marriage is give and take and it's important to remember the "give" part about that an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:10 PM
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Can't tell if you were being sardonic... No reason they should be, they just often are demonstrated to be. Generally if the guy isn't uber extro, and he marries a fireball socialite, he'll encounter trouble somewhere down the line. You need a peak alpha social climber to find those types of women manageable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:03 PM
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I have no problem approaching and initiating flirting. Nice. Needle in a haystack.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 09:59 PM
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Some girls turn very odd when they are clearly being hit on by someone they find attractive, showing physical nervousness, akin to what Aaren describes because they are slightly awkward socially - a lot more prominent in women under 25 I've found, way more comfortable talking at a distance (social platforms). When you actually meet up some can barely look you in the eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 09:59 PM
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It's likely that you're the most reasonable blue on here. To deny that men aren't inclined to appreciate a more subservient, acquiescent wife, is ridiculous. Every women I've heard from speaks of the benefit of keeping "that bitch mode" as you say, in check. Despite the obvious effects on a relationship -- especially in a marital context, it's this one thing I can't see how detractors have an issue with it -- yet somehow it's constantly debated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 09:52 PM
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somewhat enjoyable?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 08:53 PM
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primal urges
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 08:53 PM
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he wasn't wearing them while you ploughed like black dudes wearing tims in porn, was he? Can just imagine you climaxing then realising he was still wearing his pod slips
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 07:46 PM
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Guys who talk about their dreams when you barely know them. bahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 07:43 PM
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I don't mind it after a workout or pickup basketball game But that's when ball stank is at its peak
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 07:42 PM
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Yes, totally more turn offs than turn ons. I wish this weren't true. Would make maintaining attraction way easier. Isn't it kind of fun for women, you all seem to enjoy the weighing up process, like yall are panel judges dissecting dudes' fashion choices and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 07:41 PM
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Rare to come by in these parts
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 09:08 PM
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You commented on a dimension that others haven't touched on. Yes, for sure those desires that are latent within a man affect his perception of women and of course his attraction or compulsion to mothers as a demographic. It's this "metaphysical" sense I was attempting to touch upon. Thanks for elucidating that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 08:27 PM
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we can't exclude that pornhub manipulates data in order to attract more women to watch porn since they're the ones who watch it less. Great point Anita.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 08:08 PM
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Sure, that makes sense Grid. I just think women's...efficiency, generally is much more beneficial during those times of separation. What I find interesting is men's general inability to be as clinical. There's an almost longer lasting sense of protection, for lack of a better word, for their past partners. Almost primordial. Never completely dissolves, unless they were cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 08:06 PM
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Well sure. One can easily just say it's simply down to men's BROAD sexual spectrum. But, maybe it's not so simple. Maybe it is. S'why this discussion interested me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 04:46 PM
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For sure, and what would also encroach into the discussion would be the fact that most young women aren't exactly chasing the 'average joe'. The older woman pursuing younger guys because of her ability to maintain men's attraction being limited, would aid with your theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 04:44 PM
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I think that MILFs give the illusion of attainability and authenticity. Very astute point he made, yes, I'd be inclined to believe the logic behind the attraction here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 04:41 PM
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MILF porn has nothing to do with fertility and everything to do with adolescent nostalgia. I'd half agree. Certainlly some fetisization of the older woman that's 'out of grasp'. There's something I still feel that is related to their biology just can't quite distill such a hypothesis with overwhelming confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 03:50 PM
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I've been arguing on here for quite awhile that it's natural for men to to find their sexual preferences to mature along with their own age. I've always thought male sexual preferences get more 'dynamic' for sure. Way broader spectrum than females' - generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 03:47 PM
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Perhaps, but I would certainly not classify the lion's share of the mothers I know as easy lays - unless they're single mothers. To get one to steer away from her newborn and her immediate family system she's now the matriarch of, would take some accessories to go along with the offer of a mere sexual interaction with a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 03:45 PM
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Is it sad? Yes, undoubtedly the ones you really had a lot of a love for, it hurts. But that's life, people come and go and you end up doing the same to someone else like what was done to you unintentionally. And yeah, it certainly appears it's more of a benefit to hyper invest in the new guy, but it's interesting talking to MissMaude and Sublime, both said that when they left their exes they were not over them and were pining over them for ages after until they reunited. So sometimes it goes the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 10:50 AM
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How come you think it's unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 09:54 PM
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good social media presence shit, just this alone can dude a world of good
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 09:36 PM
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can't tell if you're being sardonic, but yes, if he isn't a moron, he will be quite capable. because plenty of the girls he's slept with will have informed him about some of their past relationships during pillowtalk moments. that's when women tend to speak up about weird details in their life which take you by surprise. it's good to listen to though as it serves to enlighten you what other dudes did wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 09:34 PM
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What an intense storm of emotion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 09:21 PM
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Female "feels" are often more intense when there isn't actual sex going on. I would have to agree with you, I've never seen women so engrossed than when observing them after not pursuing them sexually
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 09:20 PM
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yeah i get you, you ladies generally are way more forgetful about exes than dudes, but ymmv. the fact that you forgot who your first bf was (although you've only had 3) illustrates this effectively swift amnesia process
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:57 PM
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yeh I get what you're saying, kind of nuanced, so this simpleton you were fucking for nine months was the dirty chiseled gym-rat type who ran in punk circles?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:54 PM
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the next man who fucks her brains out and he disappears if she never gets fucked good again by a man shes crazy for she may stay wistful forever I've swear I've had more than my fair share of this though. Some women always want to contact you after you break shit off. So your theory goes to say that they are all chasing that Crack Dick that they're starved of. Others are saying it's not merely the sex, "it was the connection ya'll had too."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:50 PM
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I'd agree with that yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:44 PM
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rekt but also are you not exactly one who gets head over heels for you ltrs then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:41 PM
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Yeah it's decent theorising, however, the ones who always declare their complete disinterest in chads are always your type - women with dominant traits. Very rarely the sub types - who seem generally to take to the more alpha man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:40 PM
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I don't think women are ever "ruined" by a ONS. I do think that some women are affected by a short-lived, exciting and adventurous experience with a Chad that often includes a lot of kinky sex True. What I find bizarre are the ones that get to this intense state after not even having sex with their flame. Which puts a dent in some of the theories that bonding is needed through intercoure for women to get all attached
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:38 PM
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I tried dating after him and it sucked... we hadn't even had sex, I was just crazy about him I've found the women who most weave intense loving fantasies about me after something has fizzled out are precisely the ones I didn't sleep with
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:35 PM
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What a fascinating phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:34 PM
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Alpha widowhood is usually when the man ended the relationship while the woman was still in wild limerance and she never got "closure" In these circumstances, how long does it take or does she really ever, get over that dude? I swear I still see that longing in few good female friends' eyes when their "awe inspiring" ex comes into their sights at a gathering
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:30 PM
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Squirting is just piss
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:29 PM
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I think it's much more an emotional reaction than a logical one Certainly. It's a primordial emotional reaction. But the more the man stews on it, ruminates, it becomes a logical one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:28 PM
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I concur
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:26 PM
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I wouldn't personally get together with him in the first place. Won't go anywhere, won't be likely to develop true feelings for him. Why waste my time? I realise that you lassys seem to be able forego the looks if the guys super interesting or whatever, but in the context of meeting someone for the first time, or glancing at them and them asking you on a date, you need some visceral, physical attraction in those first moments, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:23 PM
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Plus by the time he stops getting laid he'll probs have figured out how to transform himself into some sort of decent candidate for an ltr if he wants that, so he doesn't really lose out eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:18 PM
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stayed with the most handsome Chad i ever went out with for 9 months. he was a 6'2" sandy blonde rockabilly guy with a motorcycle, who lifted. he was gorgeous. every woman he dated dumped him. Huh, doesn't this contradict what you always say about the muscle bound chads with no personality being appealing to women or was that someone else? sweet flair btw
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:16 PM
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You mentioned in another post that you've never had a partner more attractive than you, meaning going after those with less SMV than you. So does that mean you seek out lesser looking partners in the context OP is asking in?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:11 PM
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As in all your ex bfs were less attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 09:54 PM
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Dating is so fucked for unattractive dudes, I feel for them. Online more so. It's paradoxical. Even okay looking dudes must struggle to get anywhere. It's not meaningless, but that doesn't make it meaningful either. What's the word that depicts this sentiment?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 09:33 PM
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Most individuals rely on pretense during the initial stage, and the relationships develop along the line of pretense. Once they come into their own more they realise they don't have that much in common and can even see traits in the other they don't find appealing. Many aspects to a person you've become close to can seem more vulgar, or uninteresting over time as you become more judgemental of them and see them in various states - even resentful. But you depicted other aspects to why couple's co…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 09:31 PM
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So women resent men for communicating with them on dating sites? Or just think nothing of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 09:08 PM
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almost always
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 06:37 PM
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It would be stretching to say hotter, it's kind of nuanced. Just sexually appealing in a completely different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 06:30 PM
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In shape mothers are ultra hot. Women I've known are almost always sexier post-childbirth. They are far more comfortable in their own skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 04:14 PM
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unfortunately I think this just might be a subject that is highly variable and person-dependent Appears to be the case here, or at least people posting are very much affected by the moral implications of saying it either "does indeed affect the individual" or "it has no effect at all." Certainly seems to make people emotional talking about this subject given it's threat to an individual's liberty. There is virtually zero evidence that it effects the ability to "pair bond." I'd agree, for the mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 10:12 PM
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Magnesium also helps reduce painful menstrual cramps, fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:51 PM
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It's not really an issue from the women's side, but when discussing babies it concerns this topic. If children are desired then it's definitely more beneficial for the actual child that the mother gives birth before mid 30s given the medical concerns that could present issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:48 PM
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Apparently the amount of childbirths that are being delivered via this route is growing, and findings have shown it to be impacting to the child's gut health down the line. Getting delivered through the vaginal canal aids with immune function, because of what is in the bacteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:44 PM
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Do you think, that in anyway, having 20 partners could be damaging to future pair bonding? Or would it be beneficial?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:39 PM
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Apart from the fact that a woman with a low sex count will be less likely. Better odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:33 PM
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I don't see men in therapy because they fucked too many girls when they were younger. I don't see men weeping into their beers because they were too sexually content and active while younger. I don't see men going through CBT to address issues from too much sex as younger men. If anything, the men having CBT are the ones in a draught. Having too much sex for a men is like a duck being too wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:18 PM
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Yeah but they're having less sex and they're not exactly nourished by that, they're in a state of lack - doesn't do wonders for their brains to not be fucking in their prime
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:14 PM
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What's the number you'd go with, how many men have attractive women slept with in total dyou think?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:11 PM
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Viggo is def swarthy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 11:01 AM
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I've not encountered anyone asserting women can't love beta. That's not true clearly. Overwhelmingly the men who will marry women and have their children will be more outwardly beta in their nature, as that's what women look for when pairing up in attempts to find a suitable father who'll be all in for the father role. It just simply isn't an optimal strategy for a man, to get what he needs in an ltr context, to completely conform and subvert any alpha traits, this tends to fail him later down t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:54 PM
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Many men, notably at this point in time, don't see the rewards making the sacrifices worthwhile. Or see possible negative outcomes of starting a family, getting married etc to be too burdensome to entertain. I'd also note that you're mentioning men on a forum whereby they are more than likely to be more on the extreme ends of the spectrum when it comes to these topics, and perhaps the 'wanting to begin a family' is less frequently desired by men in the real world. I do not know many young men co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:48 PM
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I didn't negate that (oft cited) theory, I merely mentioned that this was something that may also be of value to investigate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:03 PM
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That was informative, thanks. I've always thought your observations were very telling of the life that you depicted here, I'd say your experience isn't the "norm" but I wouldn't dismiss the things you mentioned as much as you may have thought, as I think there are indeed a good few men who do not just pursue women for the sex, (although I believe it's the most powerful motivator initially) and do wish to start a family unit with a long term partner - myself included. I do actually find your hope…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:56 PM
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i think most people who are RP legit were always RP in how they THINK and just identified with BP because that was the culture they were in. huh interesting theory. maybe that's why many rps resent their former selves so much, because they were in fact acting against their initial nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:37 PM
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Do you think RP attracts spergs and sperg-like folks at higher rates because it informs people who have issues socializing or fitting in how to "correct" such behavior based on in depth analysis and observation of human behavior? Probably. Or at least those that have a hard on for observational data and wish to apply it in a practical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:25 PM
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I see logic in that theory. And for the most part, if we are speaking anecdotally, it's the average looking, lesser dynamic men that cheat in an ltr from what I've observed also.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:23 PM
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Yes they do, I'm not negating that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:21 PM
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Because not knowing the value of gold, when you possess an abundance of it - to someone who values gold, is something to be interested by and worthy to speak about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 02:01 PM
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keeps trying to convince me that men are slaves to their sexual desires who want to fuck every young woman they see, who only accomplish anything to score strange pussy, and will cheat 100% of the time if they absolutely knew they'd get away with it. Genuine question, that stems out of my curiousity. You seem to hold men in a very high regard which is great, is there a reason you find it hard to believe? Were there particular events in your life that shaped this steadfast viewpoint?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 01:57 PM
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I saw this a long time ago. Is the intention to kill off the weakest wolf in the pack in order to set a precedent, that weakness and inability to successfully hunt in the pack, will not be tolerated?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 01:55 PM
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I wouldn't go as far as to say the inference is that men are becoming obsolete. But they've always been seen as dispensable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 01:45 PM
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so they don't really want to cheat. No, you're right, many are moral creatures who feel the enveloping regret that swaddles them afterward... Doesn't mean they don't end up doing it though, if someone who looks good to them gives them a chance they know they would otherwise never have a chance with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 01:41 PM
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Not during the initial chase, no. It's just for sex, initially, the accessories of such will appeal to him afterwards. Then when a man - who is actively seeking a ltr with the intention of raising children, with the most attractive woman who he can get, will entertain the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 01:39 PM
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Pretty sure Strauss is in a LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 01:33 PM
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Teeing up has never been such a hoot
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 01:32 PM
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Without these guys there is no competition, they need to exist. As regards to the ones who can't keep up, survival of the fittest is a cruel dynamic that weeds out weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 06:53 PM
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hahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:34 PM
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The top tier men provide other men with the only impetus they need to go out in the world and achieve and do well. 'Chads' are the only thing stopping men becoming lazy. It's like male to male dread game. Without these men there would be no competition, no race.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:38 PM
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Certainly not as easy as folks like u/smurfesmurferson make it sound, i.e. "anyone anywhere can just snap his fingers and get casual sex any time he/she wants." No, that is indeed, a ridiculous assertion for males especially.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:56 PM
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For average looking guys (5s), with average personalities, they ain't bedding girls in their peak more than once a year. I know these guys and they don't do overwhelming well numbers wise. That said, the sex they do get is usually in more of a dating capacity than after a night out. For handsome guys who have no charisma or game, I'd say maybe triple the figure of the aforementioned, and it can be done out of a relationship (ons). I know these guys too, they don't do that much better than the av…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 08:51 PM
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Are you a housewife? I thought you were a realtor
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:59 PM
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All issues should be addressed, the fact that you have to avoid finding ways of solving any issues that are bad enough to be troubling someone is stupid. Problems and issues build up if they aren't addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:10 PM
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Men fantasize about being in situations of peril. We think about what we would could actually do if things went awry and we'd be tested. We've always been accountable in history for defending the "fairer sex". You may have confused what I was saying for men fantasizing about their women dying for them...which we do not ever entertain. It's an interesting question to ask women as they have pretty much zero ingrained natural instinct for dying for their men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:25 PM
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They wouldn't. It's a tendency men have. They think about how they'd survive if shit went down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 09:22 PM
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Not really a weird question for dudes to mull over. It's a thing men frequently fantasize about. So asking the inverse is interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 07:11 PM
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So a man who would stave off sex "looking for that one" would do it for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 09:20 PM
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One of the people always ends up realising how much better they could do in the end though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 09:18 PM
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It is a fluid dance heheh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 09:16 PM
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It's almost like women have no agency whatsoever. Women have always picked and chose what agency they want to have and how it suits them. Yes, love and sex is work. Work men must put up with if they want either of those things. Love happens to women, men make it happen. As they do with sex. Like it or lump it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 09:15 PM
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When you can provide both, and do not choose commit they go nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 08:23 PM
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get to know you and create an emotional bond to truly want to sleep with you. So girls sleep with dudes on the first date because she thought they were successful building an emotional bond with them after said date?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 07:42 PM
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Is there science/literature on this evolutionary process?
/r/askTRP15/11/16 06:32 PM
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Never heard of that phenomenon before. That must be quite odd to go through life that way, maybe it's an advantage also tho
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 07:01 PM
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Universally men generally find them a huge turn on. Does help if you have a rounder face tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 06:20 PM
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I see your point, but generally speaking the "average" male would fit into this hence the definition of average. Many males aren't remarkable. And do not have the same rate of success as the males who wouldn't think too much into any kind of relationship with females given their reach and ability to find success elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:09 PM
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But no girl is worth that kind of work. Some men will still commit to the labour, whilst receiving none of the fruits. The demographic I speak of, and is where the message attempts to touch upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:59 PM
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For some men, namely men who are generally unlucky with women, they should refrain from forming friendships with women they are attracted to. They're going to end up frustrated and resentful. Nail on the head. This is the demographic I was discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:55 PM
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I can agree about the part of not treating a woman like a friend if you want her for a relationship. This was the only point that I was making. I have no doubt men friendzone women too, especially if they do not find interest in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:54 PM
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If the friendship is considerably more rewarding than your attraction to her is strong, it's pretty easy to deal with this even if some attraction is there. Precisely what I was attempting to touch on in the OP, ES.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:53 PM
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try to get some, I tell you after some time most of them will want your dick, she ruined the friendship and then you have to start at 0 again. That happens all the time, it's not just a male issue. It sucks. That's why you have to vet for a good friend. Put in some effort. Quite an assumption on your part, ARS. Secondly, I'm commentating on those male-female friendships that are based on the criteria I discussed in OP. When the male hangs on in hopes for something else other than bonding over ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:51 PM
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Real men have hairy arses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 08:09 PM
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But perpetual negation of problem managing only leads to more future outcomes where the woman will "feel bad" again. Thus, the momentary comfort "listening and doing nothing but consoling and assuaging" leads to progressively worse outcomes. Men are problem solving mechanical beings, so the aforementioned is realised early on, so it's very difficult to ignore. Not impossible but just hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 08:02 PM
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As someone who feels that a partner being hot is by far the most necessary factor to be ticked off on the list of desirable traits, and as you seemingly think the same, is the claim that women (on here often too) can partner up with someone who they don't find physically attractive but rely on his winning personality as false as it sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:05 PM
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Sure, make sure you have plenty of money beforehand however.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/16 04:03 PM
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They have 8somes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:26 PM
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What's the antithesis to this type of confident male?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:21 PM
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There's a difference between narcissism and solipsism Good distinction.
/r/askTRP15/10/16 05:09 PM
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Aren't men known to have more narcissistic traits than women?
/r/askTRP15/10/16 04:56 PM
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Because in this hypothetical the dude's into fiery jewish broads.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:29 PM
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One of them was the bad split I mentioned in my post. Every single one of them is now dating a guy I'd consider to be a loser. So your experience here exists in opposition to hypergamy?
/r/TheRedPill12/10/16 06:30 PM
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It's not attraction. It's availability. Men aren't attracted to slutty personalities, outgoing extroverted personalities per se. That's not what it's about. MRP men who married sluts got there because the slut was available Precisely Pem. Alice equating this settling, and essentially, accommodation of such traits isn't the man "wanting" her on any human level. It's for the oppurtunist primordial fuck they can get out of such a woman. If these "slutty" women are prepared to understand respect wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:14 PM
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She should change herself and become what men claim to hate, slutty and forward and reasonably dominant. Don't get too confident in that. You're conflating being with them as not hating them. Which is contradictory sure, but a phenomenon nevertheless. Most men will inevitably yield an inner hatred for those types of women but stay with them for sex. But since both profit it's merely just absurd and dysfunctional, more than it is ineffectual for both parties. What I'm saying is many men will inde…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:05 PM
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If you told me Ghandi or MLK Jr. were also accused of rape, They indeed did, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:51 PM
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It's positive affirmation. Incels get none of it. Many entrepreneurs and top percentile men don't get positive affirmation though -- at least until they find success, and even then they have to generate it in themselves first. Men in general aren't accustomed to positive affirmation. As a male you have to know you're the shit. Not rely on being told you are. Obviously, entrepreneurs and top percentile men put themselves in places to receive any decent affirmation more readily however.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:48 PM
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Telling a girl you cheated on her is the most cowardly thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:53 PM
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This generation of young people who fuck strangers relentlessly isn't as prominent as you're led to think. The greater majority aren't having any sex. Look up the recent study. However, dudes like sardonis are also more common practice, especially in trendy circles, they tend to talk down about Tinder culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 06:58 PM
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Some men's curiosity leads them to, yes. However, they don't really want to hear the answers, it's a weird form of sadism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 06:55 PM
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So none of the millions of categories work for you? That's interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 06:52 PM
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in fact if women never talked, it would probably be better for the men. You say this and say the exact opposite very often.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 07:00 PM
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I thought that picture of a dude crossing his arms who looks all standoffish was found the most attractive to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:42 PM
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If gazelle began using and integrating methods in to their survival strategy that allowed them greater escape routes, cheetahs would be mad, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 07:38 PM
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doesn't necessarily have to be a versus issue poppy, some if not the majority, take joy in the aesthetic value of both. who'd have believed it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 11:40 AM
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Are you suggesting that men aren't fantasising about this? Because they are. It's one of the top porn categories for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 07:34 PM
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Rattle a few names off few to me, I'm intrigued
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 07:10 PM
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Alright, so women are attracted to melancholic men None of the studies point to melancholic being a desirable trait, nor is it an attribute that the dark triad refers to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 07:08 PM
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Perhaps they're more able to compare the person sitting opposite them, to their significant other, because they're confronted with the choice more than say when they're sitting idly, daydreaming on their way home from work, listening to their iPod. They always feel slightly more tense and awkward too as if they're being confronted with a choice, but it's all theory, in't it really.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 08:30 PM
1

Yeah for those who are potently virile and in possession of super sperm, this is perilous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 08:20 PM
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When the countless women on the tube check you out while sitting with their boyfriends. That's a weird one. In those scenarios they tend to check you out when their present with their partner more overtly than when they're on their solo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 08:18 PM
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they have to be seen as "an improvement," an upgrade from the last person you were really into. otherwise the impulse to compare and contrast won't allow you to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 07:30 PM
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I think it's a Wuthering Heights reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 06:53 PM
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Yeah choice of any given sexual strategy in essence results from the necessity to minimise one's vulnerability, or emotional sensitivity. In the eyes of the partner the person is attempting to attract. So men embrace rp because it gives them a framework that best enables them to prosper, and also allows them a defensive so not feel as powerless and vulnerable in situations where they may have felt vulnerable before. Women do the same. The "don't need no man" attitude and the overtly aggressive w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:28 AM
1

You quite the film aficionado aint you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:58 PM
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I agree with most of the post, I just feel like, as is common in TRP, he overestimated the degree to which women are consciously playing games and making evaluations. Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying. I do think rp tends to sway towards the axiom that women aren't consciously attempting to play games, and suggest that in fact women tend to do this unconsciously as to see what the man is capable of, and if he can lead and be proactive. But all is conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 07:52 PM
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I see where you're coming from, and also agree that this was helpful for most men who fall over themselves at the sight of a woman they are attracted to. As for the post you linked, it's good advice. I personally disagree with the reasoning for some of your advice What did you disagree with in regards to the OPs "reasoning" as you put it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 07:24 PM
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So I take it you are a woman? What in particular do you think was good advice if you didn't agree with the reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 06:58 PM
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Yes there is more, statistically (serial killers). No one stated men are angels. What the above commenter was getting at was that women tend to behave more amoral in benign, day-to-day situations to get their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 07:52 PM
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men can be very loving, protective and sacrificial. For sure. Men are romantic martyrs for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 07:49 PM
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But most men and most high value men do not share your beliefs about women: that they are useless other than for sex. This is true. The "men don't take on board what their spouses and significant others say" is reductionist. Men listen to women they value, but importantly high value men are really the only ones who have access to good women who will give them their time. Low value men are less able to access high value women and so fall prey to the ethos "all women are good for is fucking".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 07:47 PM
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No, men just care about what "good women" say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 07:44 PM
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the devils" between father grandier and his bride Link plz
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 07:39 PM
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Perhaps the way of communicating is similar, but Rodgers wasn't masculine. He was far away from being labelled alpha was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 08:54 PM
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You think school shooters are masculine? They lack masculine traits and on average are rife with "beta" qualities, this is noted in their ramblings and in complaints about not getting women or not feeling apart of a network.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 08:42 PM
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Pretty sure most people meet their future spouses in the workplace setting though, so if you're looking for a long term partner, it's the best bet. Of course if it's merely one night stands you're after then yes, sampling colleagues is a terrible idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 08:15 PM
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Codependency in "mild levels" is just dedication and commitment. Codependency is a term to define and characterise pathological reliance to appease others due to a corrupted attachment pattern, developed in childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 08:48 AM
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a man saying cringe Cringing intensifies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 05:37 PM
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He didn't say he didn't get along with them. He said many are not remarkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:52 PM
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That's being a bit cynical. I only said 5 because you're sense of rating is sub average. But this is all subjective, so pushing higher is not all that simple to surmise and ascertain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 07:46 PM
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Certainly is not. I didn't disagree, but it can get them to a 5 and with a personality they can have a more prosperous life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 07:23 PM
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Anecdotally I feel compelled to see this to be true and accurate. Or at least yield good results for all involved. If one feels special and distinct from the rest then they are more likely to attribute that feeling of specialness to the person who projected such admiration to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 07:19 PM
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It's like a fox telling a badger how to live and prosper in their independent way of life. Different species entirely, and so reality is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 07:17 PM
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But that certain degree can be a significant level up and allow them to flourish more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 07:14 PM
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Tbf he spent a great deal of his time writing essays to Xemnas
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 06:34 PM
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Greasypole is missing. Did he died?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 05:52 PM
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That wasn't quite the point, merely, in the absence of narrative objective truth is available to observe. And many people feel that why the strategies work is due to the efficacy of such well, social engineering tactics, get a desired result. Both sexes use their own available strategies that enable the best results to fall in their favour.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 06:43 PM
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You have some internalisation of what is happening and sound conflicted so it clearly isn't aligning with your own moral judgement.
/r/askTRP08/08/16 11:59 AM
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Men are overwhelmingly more violent than women are, but I've seen guys fight each other until a nose or hand breaks, and a week later they're hanging out again like nothing happened. When this happens with males, they get some resolve. The violent dispute is usually due to a very deepseated issue that the two men share with each other and once it's occurred the relationship is almost always stronger than ever. Women tend to not address issues with other women, instead opt to ignore and push it u…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 11:57 AM
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Cannabis promotes empathy between couples so that aids with couples' bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 07:37 PM
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It's noteworthy that all of the people disputing that men are less romantically inclined are all female. Why would we claim to be the real romantics, (when being one is generally connoted to being "weaker" and less alpha), if it wasn't accurate? Considering that by exposing the beta traits doesn't bode well in initial courtship? Could it be because we're trying to tell you something about how we work?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 02:36 PM
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That doesn't negate the underlying point, here and I understand where you are coming from. You mentioned that in another thread. Yes, of course that would be difficult for most to swallow and therefore would definitely not be easy to overlook. However, we're talking about aspects that aren't to do with negative behaviour, but rather lifestyle attributes. i.e. if a man does his best to maintain his job, collect a decent salary, but gets fired, loses his job and falls into depression, many women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:48 PM
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Men are the true romantics. - No. They are just as self serving and likely to follow their own inclinations as women are and do not have access to any higher form of "love" than women do. Most men are not able to able to separate themselves from the romantic narrative they have in their heads. This is why "oneitis" is such a prevalent phenomenon. The larger portion of men generally romanticise their partner too much and are not always able to see that there is other women out there for them. I'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:28 PM
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Because outliers and tiny demographics don't allow heuristics to function as easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 06:37 PM
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A man who is unattractive, but is dead-set on finding a woman to "desire" him will always be unhappy. You mean in a context outside of arrange marriages? Interesting. I do think males find it difficult to allow divergence between what they desire and what they find attractive generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 06:33 PM
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Never posed that someone should endeavour to suffer for sufferings sake, I inferred that men should understand it isn't optional and that they cannot evade the reality that they'll struggle and that by acknowledging this first then finding a potential mate would be more fruitful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 07:29 PM
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This follows a similar vein as other commenters have communicated. Certainly understand the 20/80 rule as it's unequivocal. What I find an odd occurrence (yet common) is top 20 percentiles who bag a woman who is also a top percentile and then break up, get with another even keel or better woman, and yet they still long for the previous one. That seems to be more difficult to explain given the logic doesn't weigh up. If men only wanted the hottest and they eventually got another...well, equally a…
/r/askTRP15/06/16 03:05 PM
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What's your theory behind this strange psychology?
/r/askTRP15/06/16 09:05 AM
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Oh I know, and in some sense, that's even more intriguing.
/r/askTRP14/06/16 06:52 PM
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Plenty I've known. That's where my question of origin came from. However I think it has more to do with nostalgia than mating strategy.
/r/askTRP14/06/16 06:28 PM
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Interesting. Why are some men willing to leave a potentially good mate to get back with an old partner? What is the impetus, in your opinion behind this motivation?
/r/askTRP14/06/16 06:15 PM
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So monogamy was rampant and straying was unheard of?
/r/askTRP14/06/16 06:14 PM
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They psychologically undermine unattractive men's self esteem, in the same way the negging would aim to target insecure women. Both parties are as vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 01:37 PM
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"You know those opening scenes of the Normandy invasion in Saving Private Ryan where all the men get mowed down by MG42 machine guns as they spill out of the boats onto Omaha beach? Now imagine if that had been women dying, instead of men. That's what equality looks like."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 10:52 AM
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But, like everyone else, has to face the consequence of that choice. But, like everyone else ALL MEN .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 07:55 AM
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You're never going to find solace in another person's ideology on life. Live how you feel necessary -- be it nihilistic or spiritual -- and implement what you learn here where it is applicable.
/r/askTRP12/01/16 07:27 AM
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What's your point? That the red pill is impetus for men who aren't getting what they want from life, and need a kick up the arse? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 07:50 AM
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Well, plenty of people here, since it's a forum for gender studies discourse
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 09:46 AM
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Agreed, I'd make the distinction that the path of most resistance doesn't always have to be tread. There's obviously a very nuanced judgment process a man must analyse before putting himself in unnecessary danger and into pointless risk, as you put it.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/16 07:30 AM
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Look into Sleep Hygiene, read up on the best techniques to implement into your routine for more effective rest, I wake up at the same time every day of the week. No matter what time I finally go to sleep. Although I usually get to bed for around 10pm every night. It allows me to have a consistent schedule and it trains the brain.
/r/askTRP07/01/16 07:26 PM
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Females opt for narrative over truthful actualization -- so yes, there is no distinction in her mind that she is cultivating dishonesty within her life & relationships.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 06:49 PM
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Eh? Love addicts are unconditional lovers because they romanticize their partners/exes. Unconditional love is unconditional, absolute. it isn't solely reliant on the peaks. It stays consistent throughout the endorphin laden highs and excruciating lows. Romantic love doesn't stop burning because it isn't rooted in reality, it is driven by fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 01:42 PM
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That depends on which of the so called propagators of The Red Pill you are observing. Men who have digested the literature, internalised the material and can comprehend the broader picture are usually quite grounded and stoic. These men don't really get noticed because they aren't as vocal as the new comers who are angry at the newfound realisation they have come to understand. It would seem to me that you are talking about the latter group. The more mature RP male doesn't go about his business …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 08:12 PM
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Where do statements like this come from? They come from men who aren't experiencing the reality you experience. Feeling short changed consistently has its consequences. One consequence being: being able to respect the modern dating scene and the opposite sex is reduced. Why would you want to participate in a sexual competition when you know you can only come out a loser? The sexual marketplace/economy is inherently devoid of value for men in 2016; and it's only going to get tougher.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:56 PM
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Because women in modern society are essentially exempt from criticism no matter how factual it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 08:35 PM
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Most def. "She doesn't love you she loves her attraction to you". How can she be attracted to you if you don't respect yourself enough to call it quits when it's due call. Love from a woman is as transient as the wind.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 07:26 PM
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Wub are you from Manchester?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 07:35 PM
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Of course, weakness and dysfunction within both genders is going to resonate with both parties. Both I don't concur that women do anything but empower sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 07:34 PM
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What they think is average is usually way above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 07:06 PM
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They certainly overestimate what they think should be considered average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 06:58 PM
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Shit tier dick bahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 06:49 PM
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If you're tired of subjects being repeated this sub may not be for you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 06:47 PM
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He's a man of subversion
/r/askTRP19/12/15 06:47 PM
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for the sake of making love Most men aren't having sex, thinking of it as making love. So you may be an outlier there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:47 PM
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When men are getting regular sex: Physical gratification I'd say physical release would be more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:51 AM
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Ok I concede. In the westernised societies, that we are generally representing on this sub. And so therefore relevant to the discussion. I didn't really feel I needed to state the fact I'm not an ambassador of free speecj for the Chinese or Middle Easterners in regards to gender politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:24 PM
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Oh, you meant the subreddit. No, you aren't going to be able to communicate your way out of the gender differences. It's hard wired into our biology. I and many others here come to cultivate insight, and allow enough of teh discussion to sink in so I can take advantage of the information and data gathered. To then apply it to my life. I'm not here to save men from being challenged. All you can do is give people information for them to do what they will with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:43 PM
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Who's we? Men? As I inferred, to make significant process. A species doesn't adapt unless it evolves. We are here thanks to a long history of adapting to severe challenges that test our...durability.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:40 PM
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I don't like cricket-uh, sluts-uh, I love them
/r/askTRP12/12/15 09:18 AM
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Anguish, bit of hyperbole there. Anxiety maybe, would be more apt. And both sexes do it invariably naturally in a normal relationship dynamic to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:46 PM
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The Red Pill encourages a negative view of women. Why? Because when you see women as non-unique, non-special beings, each one defined primarily by how much of a boner her appearance creates, you can approach them confidently, without really caring how things go. When a man realises the real worth and value of himself, reality becomes much richer, more colourful. A man really is a more admirable creature, and in many ways more capable. He sees things for what they are and adapts to win over his e…
/r/TheRedPill10/12/15 06:20 PM
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Since WW1 women have been getting steadily unhappier. It isn't really assumption on my part. You can simply make some observations of this data and apply it to the increase of more female dominance and independence, and come away with the conclusion that it doesn't ultimately give them the satisfaction they initially perceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 08:19 AM
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Just from the way sex works, there are meant to be gender roles and gender differences. It's the basis of all debate here. And it's a fallacy to me to have the audaciousness to not admit that we thrive and benefit from noticing the pattern based, evolutionary biases that enable us to thrive more effectively as a race. The downplaying of the axiom that men are the actioners of the species and women tend to be the supportive role is not fully realised. Plus blue pill converts tend to be offended b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:08 PM
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You may not "agree" with the term, that's fine. The message I was attempting to transmute was in regards to the perils of being an alpha women and the implications of mental instability with respects to the labelling of a female alpha. Whitney is a great case study. She is rich, pretty, and famous. And isn't particualry enjoying any of it. On paper being an alpha wmen is empowering. But when you're being spat on and choked by dicks unwillingly it's slightly melancholic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:02 PM
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Whitney is a great case study. She is rich, pretty, and famous. And isn't particularly enjoying any of it. On paper being an alpha women is empowering. But when you're being spat on and choked by dicks unwillingly it's slightly melancholic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:02 PM
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Cheers Pem. The reason why I saw this is as quite a significant expose, if you will, is because of the disturbing candidness of her as you noticed yourself. It's all too close to home for me. I say disturbing because I've seen what this type of pro-go-gedd'em-maneater type mindset that's so lauded in the media and within lib femme-circles invariably does to women. This whole single and sassy cat lady schtick isn't a good phenomenon. It shouldn't be a meme for girls to aspire to. They grow misera…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 06:58 PM
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Yes very unrealistic. I'd challenge your theory still. Men don't want women to love them as their mothers do, they want women to love them as they do the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:36 AM
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All of the narcissistic mothers out there negate your theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:23 AM
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Because it's so fucking vague
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:58 PM
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Unlike what the typical hot, feminist, millenial girl thinks, kindness is an attribute most men will fall for. This whole feisty shit talking affect that seems to be promoted by every contemporary "singer" is completed misguided. Ain't none of that gonna make men enticed. I think most young men would love to see more kind young girls. I guess they'd fear the dude would take advantage of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 07:48 PM
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I pretty much love being intimidated by men and don't think I'd date one who didn't intimidate me on some level Interesting! Do you think many other ladies feel this way too?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 07:44 PM
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Red pill is more a praxeology than it is a script for young men to vocalise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 07:35 PM
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Word. When The Smiths claimed meat is murder. What they really meant meat well done is murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 12:19 PM
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Too many things, too many things, too many things What a scene, yo!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 07:51 AM
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Oh come on Cats, don't underestimate yourself. I'm sure you'd be more social than that. You'd probably be schooling someone on Schopenhauer and his treatise......perhaps, whilst petting a cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 07:50 AM
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Yep. A certain percentage are bricks and mortar from always.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 09:10 AM
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INTJ-A, Red, Male, HC RP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 07:47 PM
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But... how
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 07:10 PM
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A good percentage will be, since the most recent updates they're way more prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 07:06 PM
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While this might be true, some of them are bots dude
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 07:00 PM
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But Chad's aint commenting rampantly on any said female's insta.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 06:59 PM
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Dude.....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 02:18 PM
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Men a far more inclined to be romanticists than women are
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 02:08 PM
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Yes, it's essential. Not all men have the natural poise or stoicism that one would wish for. You're only as confident as you can be, so when you are naturally lacking one must fake it. Simple as. But yet not all that simple...
/r/TheRedPill25/11/15 12:47 PM
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Try to project self-confidence, while actually having none. Which many subscribers here will be doing...
/r/TheRedPill24/11/15 06:56 PM
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Changing the TRP narrative or changing the wrong opinion that BPers have of the TRP 'narrative'? 8/10 BP's have little understanding of the true roots of Red Pill and it's history beyond reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 07:44 PM
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Reverse your macros and it may make more sense for you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 10:37 AM
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The deception principal probably. After all they are a morally superior BP person and they've been deceived, and coerced in a relationship with what they thought was a sweet, kind hearted gent. Turns out he got his foot in the door using a framework that works well. They don't like that he utilised strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 08:19 AM
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That last paragraph puts this discussion to bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 08:09 AM
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This makes no fundamental sense at all, as Guitars stated in his retort, you cannot follow the same heuristic for men as TRP endorses for women. Watch What They Do, Not What They Say doesn't apply, simply due to the fact that the man's experience in the marketplace if he's only hitting average levels of attractiveness is distinct from that of a said average female.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 08:08 AM
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All dudes need mandatory breaks where they actually go outside and talk words to people. All of em.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 08:03 AM
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What's your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 08:10 PM
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I understand you're being wry here, but I don't quite get this whole "we BPers feel that RP is based on lies and ill-will" idiom that seems to exist in these threads. Genuinely, what's the idea? Is it that you and your BP... confederates, genuinely don't believe that Red Pill is based in any truth and that men that follow it actively participate in disinfo just for the shits and giggles? What would men get out of following the Red Pill system that didn't give them positive results in a results b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 12:38 PM
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Great comment as usual. An addendum quote I always find relevant: “Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.” ― Mark Twain
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 12:03 PM
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Are people here seriously retarded enough to think every guy who has red pill beliefs just walks around being sexist and belligerent all the time? Yes, yes some people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 11:55 AM
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Its not a fucking barter system. You may not feel it is, but plenty of other women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 08:17 PM
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It was inferred as it wasn't mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 09:03 PM
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I don't think many people have interacted with true MGTOWs for this reason. On this sub anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:19 PM
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Yes, you're a caffeine fueled megalomaniacal exhibitionist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:38 PM
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Since TRP is based on personal anecdotes I don't know about that. It's based on broad spectrum observations that are collectivised and then discussed at length by males who've witnessed said observations and theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:05 PM
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It is not indoctrination, why should you post before you understand the subject matter of the sub? Understanding the subject matter of the sub doesn't stop people posting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 07:58 PM
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Chad ain't going to the 5/10 average woman. He is going to ONLY COMMIT to the VS level females. Or Mr Chad is going to continue ploughing hot women and not bother to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 11:25 AM
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Women are on Tinder for one of two reasons: >To hook up with the hottest man they can match with. Or for the validation porn. They're on there for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:17 AM
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However, experience from real life makes this notion absurd to me. In real life I usually have a very good shot at a woman who matches me on attractiveness, and sometimes a bit above. Matching is usually fairly easy yes, but her reciprocating her interest through messages is quite low in ratio to how many matches you can get as a male. Purely due to the fact that a woman who "matches your attractiveness" (assuming you're a 6-7), and a female "a bit above" (say a 8-9), will be swimming in dozens …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:16 AM
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In English, it is always an error. There should be no space between a sentence and its ending punctuation, whether that's a period, a question mark, or an exclamation mark. There should also be no space before a colon, semicolon, or comma. The only ending punctuation mark that sometimes needs to be preceded by a space is a dash.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:51 PM
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"Women are pragmatists disguised as romantics, men are romantics disguised as pragmatists". There is some belief that when men latch onto a love they're more ride or die, willing to give it all, where as women will only love you asl ong as she sees you as the best she can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:48 PM
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The spaces before your question marks always make me shiver
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:44 PM
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Why does the majority of TBP think TRP are 15 year old boys? They want to believe that all these angry men are saying things completely off base, and what these men are saying can't possibly be true of their own experience. Because actually realising that these angry men are quite average and easy to come by day to day, and come from all age groups, is unnerving for them. So dismissing their POV's and labelling them as angry radicals is a great way to crush any feeling that they have any relevan…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 12:04 PM
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Word
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 11:56 AM
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Every TBP retort about how they're "not in it for the ideologiez" isn't sufficient. Like it or not it's an ideology. An horrendously vague one but an ideology none the less. Oh wait I forgot, "TBP just means everything that isn't TRP".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 11:53 AM
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I think describing it in purely physical terms downplays the psychological pull that attraction has on women. When a woman cheats or chooses a man that she knows is no good for her, it's almost like her brain has shortcutted itself. That adrenaline-like, euphoric sensation is powerful. So if a man cheating can be biologically reasoned, (a man being fairly powerless over the possibility of having sex, his innate need to ejaculate) then how would you reconcile female infidelity? As you mentioned i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 08:40 AM
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in 1987 my 1st year of college i thrust myself into the burgeoning campus date-rape hysteria with an op-ed to the campus newspaper and never looked back Fought the good fight...thank you for your service.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:10 PM
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TRP doesn't operate under the belief that women are completely void of intelligence, or prowess. They appreciate the positives of the female gender but don't hold back on the weaknesses women possess. Women are physically inferior to men for example. No debate. Women are much more likely to feel overrun by their emotions. Most TRP's don't feel the need to denigrate the aspects of womanhood that are sublime, like their aptitude for parenting a child, their ability to offer a certain kind of suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 08:25 AM
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My feminine heart feels connected to masculine intensity. They are so intense in their feelings, Fascinating. Do you feel that men are more emotional than women, Cats?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 08:12 AM
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Sexual attraction isn't intellectual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 08:05 PM
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Ah alright fella, cheers for clarifying. Fair dos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 09:37 AM
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Sometimes I see partners as case studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 07:52 AM
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Aren't u/TheGreasyPole and u/PemBayliss married? Pretty sure the former also is married to a RPW.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 07:47 AM
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IF TRP is "real" then what is the point in a woman trying to be with a man? Why not just MGTOW? But instead be a "WGTOW How would this manifest though, what would it look like? I don't feel like it would offer stability for most women. Men are much more willing and capable to follow this route due to generally being more stoic and able to rationalise singledom. I would think females would have a tougher time coping with the societal repercussions of such a lifestyle and have difficulty seeing pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 07:40 AM
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Wouldn't go that far it is fairly logical to be down for MGTOW if you live in the Westernised world imo. I know plenty of them in the UK who claim it's the route I should be taking. Some of em have some points that make me ponder.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 07:06 PM
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Some women have a special kind of meanness, shrewd callousness, and general disregard for a lot of the populous, especially men, whom rank beneath their own SMV. There are plenty of good looking, level headed men with enough smarts to realise not ALL women are like this, a good proportion are however, so they propagate the notion of AWALT to save themselves time and apply their knowledge in a way to enable themselves to prosper, and in order remain in the social market and get some sex in return…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 06:59 PM
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Do you too rub one out whilst reciting Heidegger?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:51 PM
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Married red pillers don't plate spin. That's for bachelor life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:45 PM
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Spot on Grid
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:24 PM
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And that's why I marked it as a Discussion. So we could debate my "strawman" assumptions. And I appreciated your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 02:02 PM
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My point exactly. Therefore, females require validation to function and help them lead a fruitful existence. Men can endure months and months of not receiving compliments or validation without being effected to the degree of the female pariah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 08:14 PM
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All men need female validation But they can survive without it, females on the other hand crumble
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 07:34 PM
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Not necessarily, although there could be an argument for mentally and emotionally unstable people being attracted to the extremes of both pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:42 AM
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Saying the /r/TheBluePill sub is not ideologically inclined is a bit of a cop out. It's certainly a place for sardonic ridicule of TRP, but it's also an extension of TBP's ideology and a place for believers to congregate. If you go to a top rated post at /r/TheBluePill you generally find humour targeted at TRP as you say. However, if you get deeper into the comments you tend to find many people sharing ideological views.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:39 AM
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Jim'll fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 07:27 AM
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10,000 on Beta Bux
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 07:08 AM
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I'd say it's relatively normal. And wouldn't stress her out about it. Many women report fantasizing about group sex. They even state they occasionally think about gangbangs/rape in a context where it is complete fantasy, and also say they'd rarely act on such thoughts. Pornhub collected some results also that indicate women's sexual fantasies. http://www.pornhub.com/insights/women-gender-demographics-searches
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 06:59 AM
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Don Draper certainly did have a dad bod, Maude. http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/FFN_Hamm_Pare_ZEUSFF_APOLLOFF_102412_50925592.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 05:22 PM
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Otherwise you are essentially just the Winklevoss twins. Winklevi* plural
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:50 PM
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Women have been topping from the bottom since the dawn of time. Now they want to top from the top and bottom at the same time. Ignoring the fact that year upon year ladyz are getting more miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:49 PM
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Just go out and do shit don't feel too comfortable taking compliments of strangers, c'mon man just put your mind to use, get going and plow chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:46 PM
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I can understand how a man wanting desperately to be loved and appreciated by a woman can become heartbroken by her indifference toward him or lack of interest in having sex with him, but as a woman... it's not "hatred. It's not hatred. But it might as well be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:43 PM
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Having financial security gives a man more potency. It gives you more of a rigid frame to face the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:15 AM
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MGTOW's are basically going through their tired old man phase while still young. This is one of the best summations on MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:09 AM
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I would generally agree, and also add to your statement. Life is a social experiment. If what I am doing in my daily life is not getting me the outcomes I want, I think about what I am doing wrong. I also tend to invest some thought in why I want what I want, for what purpose, what reason do I desire these things. Some useless patterns I'm noticing may not need to be perpetuated and I can save time by alleviating the desire for any pointless acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:46 AM
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Proper quote: "Women are pragmatists disguised as romantics, men are romantics disguised as pragmatists".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:41 AM
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Absent father (mentally ill), semi-raised by narcissist mother, and cared for predominantly n early years by grandmother. I still have issues with my parents and do think my red pill lean is due to my experiences of how the women in my life acted and gave me my first understanding of how the female psyche worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 07:09 AM
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That's the good stuff, ah yeeeah. P.s it's curious as how much of the RP lads have posted way more nuanced artists in their selections. Silver Mt. Zion and Eno, certainly do in fact rank above all else listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 05:44 PM
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Hot yoga
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 03:54 PM
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I don't have much sympathy for the late thirties female workhorses. They could have attempted to construct a fairly decent monogamous relationship earlier on in their careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 03:53 PM
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Prostitution is legal in the UK?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 07:52 AM
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Yet I'd say a lot of people's chosen partner is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 02:06 PM
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Being a male and knowing you don't have a support structure even comparable to a females, only reinforces the man's will to proceed so I think this could be a evoltutionary advantage to encourage males to prosper even under undue stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 07:23 PM
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"is the permanent virgin life really their fate jerking off to cartoons and ponies? or its possible for them to get laid... without going the male feminist... route" That route would certainly be the most ineffective way to gain sexual contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 06:07 PM
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You are correct Chloe, one can dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 08:17 AM
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Not all that comparable though, because the butts of elderly men with piles don't tend to look like round delectable brioche buns that you wanna eat out, and a vast amount of young ladies' do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 07:05 PM
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They use exaggerated language to heighten the contents effect on new comers to the sub. Thinking that TRP thrives off baiting outsiders is misled in my opinion, they only care for those within its own population.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 07:52 AM
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Neither parties are referentially inclined to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:42 AM
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Do you feel that women can love men they way they want them to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:39 AM
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Have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 07:41 PM
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A lot of oneitis dudes will interpret this as not cutting contact with their ex partners when they need to though. You have to be very wary of why you'd want an ex to remain in your life.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/15 11:47 AM
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Will the bulky, swole, uber masculine body type fade from history? No, being an alpha isn't a learned behaviour, it's a response to living in an environment where one must act in accordance to adversity he experiences, and therefore the need to to excel is natural, whether this is communicated through his physique or his intellect, given knowledge this will lead to higher level of vitality and reward. (Pussy and greater standard of living). You may see an increase of more feminine men but The Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 09:19 AM
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Why are so many women down for unprotected sex with strangers then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 07:08 AM
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…Who's left then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:23 AM
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I expected that if I acted virtuously and caringly it would be appreciated and that I would garner respect for manifesting them in my behaviour. And did not expect for them to be tools to be utilised to emotionally abuse me by the other party. I'd say female family members and the media contributed evenly in my naivety during my primitive years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:25 PM
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I've been known to eat a slut out, but only throw caution to the wind if there are no signs that she's been catching dick left right and centre (i.e we didn't meet on Tinder). I'm much less distracted by thoughts on catching herpes if I'm in for the long haul with a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:18 PM
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People are generally healthier and live a more prosperous life in a family environment/family unit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:14 PM
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Sure it was recently a thing in NYC, and the mayor was vocalising how he was going to not allow it at all costs. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/aug/24/women-men-go-topless-new-york-protest-bare-chest-inequality-video
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:31 PM
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/u/doubledickdude
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:23 PM
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And they're outliers. As human beings we'd be in real trouble if we focused on the abnormalities in any scientific experiment instead of quantifiable data.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:11 PM
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But an apt one for what is being described
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:04 PM
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I think many do, hence the initial anger and crippling disappointment. Men's loyalty tends to supersede their logic, and they often lose perspective; i.e Onenitis At heart I believe "Women are pragmatists disguised as romantics, men are romantics disguised as pragmatists"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 07:42 AM
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Feminism is terrible for men's sex lives. And still men cannot hate women. They never have and never will. GirlWritesWhat posted a terrific wall of text a while ago about this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:09 PM
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I believe RP is a pretty negative view of the world, and that belief is based on reading RP posts from RPers. Fair enough , I would probably just label it cynical if there had to be an adjective assigned, but each to their own. I guess my cognitive biases have me leaning towards RP philosophy because 70 percent or higher of what is said…well that's what my reality has consisted of, and I have connected many dots to bring about some realisations over time utilising red pill rationale. It's ultima…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 06:41 PM
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But, I don't think TRP tries to construct a general image of the world as positive or negative, they just state observations; that may or may not seem…esoteric to you. It's mostly premised on the fundamentals of any rudimental evolutionary biology, which lay the foundations of the basic tenets of RP's ideology. Any hyperbolic analogies or exaggerated language TRP employs is ultimately detrimental to the overall appeal to the sect itself, but RP doesn't care about advertising to the mainstream so…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:59 PM
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I think the problem is the way it is expressed And instead soften the truth so that it is more palatable? Why? It isn't the point of TRP. Accept and Adapt or GTFO is a red tenet, making the "truth" more digestible so he can carry on in ignorance isn't beneficial for a young male within the TRP sphere .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:39 PM
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Lifting is not essential. Exercise is! Lifting isn't just recommended by TRP because they're meat heads, you're correct exercise in any form is essential for a healthy lifestyle but lifting exceptionally boosts the male immune system and aids bone density.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:34 PM
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I did not. Doesn't modify my point though. I believe the reason why TRP vocalise these "tautologies" so frequently, is due to the conclusion in my previous post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 11:56 AM
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I am pretty sure you are regular contributor to the sub and have been for a while, so I'm sure you've been made aware of the fact that yourself and many other females on PPD are not really considered the general consensus of who TRP are engaging with. So many of the tenets of TRP are most probably not applicable to you and the aforementioned. Given the fact you may be considered outliers. What I'm getting at is that TRP does generalise, because generalities are more reliable than infrequencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 11:51 AM
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You don't think that on an unconscious level, beneath your rational mind, you are leaning towards one side or another?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 11:44 AM
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No it isn't. How many times do you need to be informed of the fact that the origins of TRP remind you remain faithful to the ideology of "Do not change attempt to change reality (women), instead see the world for what it is and adapt accordingly". Over and over aiagn this needs to be said, and it's tiring. A LOT of Blues misunderstand the rationale of many of TRP's populous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 11:42 AM
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Do you not believe that a gender has social biological tendencies?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 11:39 AM
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I think that was her point. Simply, that TRP can be detrimental to someone's psyche if they are in fact mentally ill. As can many other factors as you said too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:07 AM
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If you give sanction to anyone on the sub to be a mascot of the TRP movement then any newbie could be considered the figurehead, but that isn't an accurate representation of the movement. It is not inherently Red Pill to complain about sluts. The fundamental ideology is to see reality for how it is, and adapt accordingly, (for personal gain or merely self-improvement); not to see reality for how you think it should be and complain because it isn't. So if you consider yourself red pill I'd revise…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 07:45 PM
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stubbornness one pointedness is a desirable trait
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 07:30 PM
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I would mostly agree, the content is lacking though in comparison to a majority of TRP posts. I'd like to see it pick up more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 07:15 AM
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They way you talk about it, it's like it's a ShitOnCorpses subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 07:05 AM
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Yes and as with everything discussed within the sub it's a generality, because generalities are more dependable than infrequencies. Alpha traits are those traits that make you lust for him. Beta traits are those traits that make you comfortable playing house with him. How ever hard these statements are to digest, they apply to many, many of the female population hence why they are spouted so often in reference to the TRP framework, and generally, within any rudimental evolutionary biology litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 08:06 PM
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There is no hard and fast rule in the TRP 'manifesto' that states "be a dick to women". What is advised is that men focus on themselves, seek self-realisation, self-improve, and this may eventually bring about the much desired "abundance mentality", which enables a man to consolidate and assess his options at that point. Your summation is not quite the point TRP is making and you're interpretation of the ability to have more mental control around women is: "…so be a dick?". It's short-sighted in…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 07:58 PM
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You mean apart from the unprecedented amounts of benefits?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 07:14 PM
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It would actually seem to me you vested in self betterment which isn't who trp speaks of. IF you are genuinely caring about constructing a more qualitative relationship, you aren't really regard as part of the female camp reds speak of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 10:13 AM
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She didn't say she still self-harms
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 10:10 AM
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Heh? This is top rated thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/AlreadyRed/comments/3j0br5/she_wants_to_hurt_me/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 07:23 AM
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I like how you managed to lend an insightful critique about the more extreme sensibilities of TRP, whilst simultaneously giving it credit where it's due. Too often people who aren't fanatical about TRP completely discredit it. Here you balanced both positive and negative opinions finely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 05:48 PM
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She tends to promote the message that she is not in need of any man other than for sexual gratification, attempting to deny evolutionary biological essentially.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/15 05:39 PM
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Plus Minaj and those fuck-centric popstars who are claiming men are just fuck toys in attempt to turn misogyny on its head.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 06:39 PM
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Yes- I have seen this sentiment echoed a lot in threads. Sorry I cannot provide a direct quotation, but I did read various discourse over the last week submitted by endorsed contributors theorising this notion of lack of self-awareness and introspection. I am curious as to how far people believe this to be inherent in female cognition, specifically RPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 12:30 PM
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Like most blue pillars though your criticisms are downplaying the experientially proven theories and using hyperbole to factor in what is said regarding women on the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 11:42 AM
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Only if you misunderstood some of the core tenets of what you have read. Plenty of men talk of the benefits of LTRs on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 11:32 AM
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Firstly, many people feel that Red Pill and The Red Pill are completely separate entities. And neither claims to offer the same lineage or benefits to any proclaimed lifestyle or any statement that there is any hidden truths. TRP specifically, states that these are the truths of life and one should adjust accordingly, and not stray away from them. The Red Pill movement exposes a different standpoint onto one's societal experience and illuminates the fact that the "reality" and narrative you were…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 11:23 AM
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Slight hyperbole, but yes, a partner with a low n-count; preferably a woman who's been in a number of LTR's.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 07:42 AM
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I think marriage strategy is on their minds throughout the 12 year fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 07:38 AM
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Intellectually grasping the concepts is much different than having your world come crashing down. Intellectually and spiritually, in my opinion. You can't see reality for what it is until you are forced to. If you try and game life too prematurely, you'll realise that that itself is just another layer of BS you're feeding yourself.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 06:55 PM
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You should probably break up with her then and do her the favour of not telling her what you did behind her back.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/15 07:55 PM
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I would concur, but in my opinion telling the girl that you cheated is just your weak self attempting to find solace in what you did. Keep it to yourself and move on in a more positive fashion.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/15 07:52 PM
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How does one stay true to the proper path, whilst still ascending in the smp, when the world of dating is fundamentally amoral?
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