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Yeah I should do that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:02 PM
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You are just back peddling know that seems sus to me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:00 PM
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What is her problem man it's kind hilarious to see her get so worked up
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:59 PM
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Sounds like a deflection to me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:57 PM
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If that was the case wouldn't I complain about you and other commentors on my post. Why don't you think about this carefully. I know thinking is hard but I believe in you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:57 PM
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That's interesting I actually don't know what she looks like but she seems to have strange obsession with people she doesn't like. It gives me bad vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:56 PM
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I should do that their snide remarks are really annoying though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:53 PM
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Why are you obsessed with me and why did you delete your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:49 PM
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It's not random just answer the question? Why can't you answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:48 PM
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Get off reddit lady you need to chill
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:47 PM
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I literally told her I am not looking to date women from reddit but she won't refuse. Is this what it feels like to be a woman when they guy doesn't leave you alone 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:44 PM
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Exactly man she is just stalking me at this point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:40 PM
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You never answered my question though are you a sex positive feminist? When I tried to build up my people you and others mocked so I am tearing down others. If I can't do either things then it tells me you want me to confirm to your norms
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:38 PM
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Has anyone had trouble from the user safinated blue pill women. She keeps commenting on my posts and keeps aggravating me. She is so annoying and won't just leave me alone. I told her to touch grass but she is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:35 PM
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I can respect you because you are open with you ideas and honest which is refreshing. People say I can't handle criticism or people having different opinions as me. But man I respect you and thanks for sharing your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:29 PM
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But you clearly aren't here in good faith and I can tell that you are just to aggravate me though. I am not deflecting I am correcting my assumptions and getting better understand of what people are saying. You need to touch grass or something
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:23 PM
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I am asking a question not running with assumptions. I have better understanding what this guy means but apparenly changing your mind is back peddling
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:21 PM
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Why can't you just answer the question at hand
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:18 PM
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Yeah what you said actually speaks to my interactions with these types of people. They definitely virtue signal all the time make them seem like morally superior because they are not insecure. This is what pisses me off the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:07 PM
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You make really good points, I didn't even see it that way honestly. I just feel like I see them in every subreddit which just aggravates me since I don't really see the opposition that much. Your last sentence is definitely what I think is happening
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:49 PM
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Thank you!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:42 PM
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Women don't mind physical cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:40 PM
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My God you are obsessed with me go out and touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:39 PM
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Yeah but do we need to give into those thoughts though?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:38 PM
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But people are allowed to have suspicion form these behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:13 PM
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How do you actually make the distinction between judgement and shame though. I usually hear women use those words interchangeably when it comes to slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:29 AM
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It sure good at covering up the harm that does happen under the guide of liberation and muh freedom. Where do I support sexual depression? My ideology does not need sexual shaming to survive and thrive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:26 AM
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You are not my people though, I am not a hero I am just looking out for my peeps which a lot of people would do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:22 AM
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Why don't you first answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:14 AM
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Do you not understand the fact that I changed my assumption of that person. It seems like you are the one who misinterpret what I said to fit your devious narrative. You have been following me and constantly aggravating me for the longest time. You are not here in good faith, you are here to irritate people. I have seen how you interact with others here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:13 AM
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I corrected my assumption of that person so how am I still lying. If I was lying then I would not have corrected my assumption. I don't understand why you are trying to aggravate me like this. Are you obsessed with me or something? I am not looking to date anyone from this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:11 AM
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I never claimed non-monogamy is harmful at all. I said the fact that non-monogamy don't get hurt from their partner sleeping with somone else shows you that what harms people when it comes to cheating is subjective. I am only having frustration with sex positives like you and one redpill dude but not everyone else though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:08 AM
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So you don't mind me slut shaming women? You won't call me out on slut shaming women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:03 AM
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I was using the nebulous you not the direct you when referring to my statements above. I apologize I should have made that clear. Liberalism and sex positivity don't care about the out come they just care about the ability to do something. An they believe what ever out come that their so called freedom gives is the natural state of how humans should be. I want to challenge this rhetoric. I believe human behavior is influenced by complex sociological and environmental factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:02 AM
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Because I like calling out devious people out its a fun hobby of mine
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:56 AM
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I understand humans are social animals and our behavior and ideas are shaped by our fellow humans and environment. I am protective and supportive of my people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:55 AM
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I am willing to correct my assumption of the person which I did for the record
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:54 AM
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Whats wrong with talking about the intuits practice of infanticide I think its a very interesting topic because its natural right, since these behaviors existed in hunter-gather societies. Why can't we talk about the violent behaviors from hunter gather society. Isn't important for humans to capture the entire picture of something rather than focus on just the positives of past societies. But cheating does not cause direct harm to someone though its about hurt feeling rather than physical inflic…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:52 AM
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I cannot say I disagree with what you said, you make good points here. People should not feel pressured to stay in relationships where their values do not align with each other. I could not agree anymore with this statement. But my question is if someone judges a couple for having restrictive boundaries in their eyes do you feel like you would support the person judging the couple. I am not saying anything like controlling behavior or having friends of the opposite sex. For an example the couple…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:44 AM
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I know you redpillers also try to normalize cheating with your evopsych bullshit man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:33 AM
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When did I say liking sex = cheating? I think you are just projecting a straw man here to be a contrarian. You didn't answer my question, are you a sex positive feminist? If not what are you here defending them? don't you think they can defend themself?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:31 AM
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No because you literally implied people who are not ok with their partner going to strip club is cheating. To me it seems like you are saying we are wrong for finding that uncomfortable. I disagree that there is no such thing as normal or natural behavior as that is an appeal to nature fallacy. We judge a behavior based on the cause of that said behavior. Its all consequential and you are right context is relevant. The Inuits for example normally practiced infanticide. https://www.jstor.org/stab…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:28 AM
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I can definitely tell you are here in bad faith and that you are probably a cheater or a potential cheater. I am not making accusation just stating my observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:11 AM
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Yes of course
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:09 AM
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Hold on I never said that enjoying sex is same thing as cheating with your partner. Well why don't you let me answer for myself before projecting a strawman onto me. I get my perception of sex positive people from my interaction with people online not some definition from wikipedia. Action speaks louder than world To sex positivity is not is not just about destigmatizing sex or what ever heroic thing you folks plan to do but its also about judging our values when it comes to our relationships. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:04 AM
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I can call you out on your behavior towards others though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:52 AM
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what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:51 AM
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Then correct me where I am wrong with understanding their comment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:41 AM
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To a potential cheater this does sound crazy because it challenges your worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:40 AM
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This just sounds like you want excuse to cheat and not be held accountable. I know how you people operate man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:40 AM
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Again that is just an excuse to not hold people accountable for their behavior which just shows me you encourage judging other people's value
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:38 AM
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I was about to ask you the same question as well. You people judge our boundaries and values as insecure. To me sex positivism isn't about challenging sexism alone but also framing decoupling of sex and romance as liberation for women, encouraging social narrative for the young adults, and deconstructing monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:37 AM
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I understand you are using the nebulous you here but let me clearify my position on sex positivity. One my contention with sex positive women are not related to dismantaling shame I am ok with dismantaling shame but I am concerned about them normalizing cheating behavior in the name of dismantling shame. Of course I have other issues with sex positivity but that will open more can of warms. It also assumes that sex positivity is the only way you can not be shamed from sex which I don't agree at …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:32 AM
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But ignoring them is not enough the, people need to call out on their behavior this is like telling kids do ignore bullies or ignore racist comments while not calling out on the toxicity. I don't care about your boundaries I care about my own and people who share my boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:16 AM
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Well this post is about cheating and this sex positive dude comes here saying people should not be ashamed of sex which I take to me people should be ok with sex even in context of cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:14 AM
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I get told that I should change my boundries by people like you than i question someone elses boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:06 AM
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I won't insist other people be okay with strip clubs, although I may question people's reasons out of curiosity. It's a personal comfort thing at the end of the day tho Why question our reasoning though I don't think it's necessary though just leave us alone we are tired of you people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:02 AM
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Are you saying having sex with someone else while in a romantic relationship is not cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:00 AM
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Fair enough I apologize for doing your questions, because I am not a Christian so I don't feel like I am part of Christian community
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:46 AM
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You are a blue pill women aren't you a sex positive feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:30 AM
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Then what do you say about the feminist argument that purity culture must be dismantled than and what about those who aren't Christian but have those values regarding relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:26 AM
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Do you think I want to shame sexuality? Do you think the only way people can couple romance and sex is through shame? Are we not allowed to voice our concerns on what people have to say about our lifestyle? If not then why of women complain about slut shaming them? You sound like you just deflecting and criticism in order to protect the status quo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:17 AM
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According to feminism purity culture is about shaming females sexuality no? When people hear traditional rhymes don't think it's egalitarian as well so that's why I don't use that name. People were dismisive because they were but hurt losers who can only mock people cause they cannot talk in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:01 AM
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I was not raised in purity culture but from my understanding is that they shame sex and see sex as only for procreation which I don't agree. They only thing we have in common is sex should be only a romantic activity within a romantic relationship. But we don't need to achieve that through shaming sexuality or our bodies. But I ain't no sex positive either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:26 AM
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I have you the articles
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:17 AM
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Citation for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:13 AM
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Idk
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:05 PM
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That's casual sex not hook up culture. Hook up culture is a social narrative of "young adults are too young to have serious relationships and must sleep around and explore themselves until they get it out of system to eventually settle down in a committed monogamous relationship". It frames long term monogamous relationship as a prison that people will eventually get into as and that fleeting relationships are more fun and enjoyable. This narrative issupposed to extend to the normal people. It a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:01 PM
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My discussion post got deleted because it did not want a debate. Like the purpose of my post was to have discussion though so I don't get it. This sub is nothing but glorified rage bait ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:43 PM
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How do you define hookup culture because people get this wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:35 PM
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Not according to the articles I found on the Internet https://www.newyorker.com/science/maria-konnikova/casual-sex-everyone-is-doing-it https://gitnux.org/hookup-culture-statistics/ https://www.thecut.com/2017/08/why-dating-in-your-20s-is-terrible.html Mainstream culture is monogamous families, and always has been Humans for most of our evolutionary history has not been monogamous. There is evidence that polyamory was the norm and some think thanks argue that not only is it natural but also mono…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:47 PM
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I don't live in that community what are you talking about. Maybe you can't handle any non participation in your hook up culture lady
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:28 PM
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But it's not the same thing this is a false equivalence as I am not just advocating for monogamy. I still don't see the reason to be mock me especially when I have not said anything to shame or judge people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:27 PM
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That's bullshit they are indoctrinated to not be interested in things. Heck someone from purple pill called a women a Taliban member for wanting to marry a sweet heart. And couple of guys here said my friends girlfriend is going to cheat because he is her first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:14 PM
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You are upset that I want a community? Persecution complex? So you think people advocating for community is persecution complex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:11 PM
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For one I am not referring to the post. Two my post was not even about monogamy it was about social narratives and values Three people were condenscending for no reason when I did not say anything upsetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:09 PM
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I was exaggerated but people in this subreddit give off cheating vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:14 PM
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That's not what I have noticed about the women of purple pill. I noticed they are obsessed with sex, obsessed with not getting attached from sex, and obsessed with fleeting joy. They say stuff like people are free to do what they want but when you push them their true colors come out. They don't care if monogamy goes extinct and defend people who theorize monogamy. They defend the current status quo of dating culture with appeal to nature argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:32 PM
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If open relationship has nothing to do with cheating why bring it up. I never talked about open relationships so I don't know why you had to bring that up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:09 PM
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I just think you got used to Internet toxicity so for you it's normals but you cannot expect everyone to be ok with the bullshit of the Internet. It's probably because other subreddits don't really talk to me or stimulate me as this one does. I try interactionng in trueunpopular opinion and discussion subreddit but they have less interaction or topics I am interested in while this subreddit does. My obsession is due to extinction of commitment culture so my compulsions is just to engage in here.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:07 PM
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I didn't know about that, are we talking about the same guys? What's wrong with him cheating on people, I thought you guys support cheating this subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:39 PM
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I personally don't support the double standard and it's stupid but the I guess I care more about people theorizing about monogamy going extinct. That's why I theorize about hook up culture going extinct it's a response from those peot
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:19 PM
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But like they are ok with people theorizing extinction of monogamy but not hook up culture
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:12 PM
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Why are women offended when we deconstruct and criticize hook up culture but happily support deconstruction and criticism of monogamy from?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:58 PM
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What's wrong with him sounds like a cool dude
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:57 PM
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My theory would be that women are more likely a permissable parent than fathers are so that may be the reason
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:55 PM
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Why won't that change that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:45 PM
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This like my 80th account in past two years
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:43 PM
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Half the population already prefers committed long term relationships. That's not what my post was about though at least not the full extent it's not about commitment itself it's a whole narrative and philosophy of eudomonia. Why not, there is already a subreddit for monogamy even though according to people like you monogamy is popular. There is community for sleep even though everyone sleeps. So why is it wrong to have our own community
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:10 PM
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How can you contact the mods to ban you? I want to be banned from here as it's unproductive aspect of my life but it's my compulsive behavior to argue with people. So I was wondering if it's possible to request such a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:58 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:56 PM
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How is it tradcon? Isn't tradcon anti egalitarian? I am all for egalitarian relationships. Even a liberal women I talked said my idea isn't traditional. So who should I believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:36 PM
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And this is a dumb response
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:35 PM
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This is why I thing it would be beneficial to have our own community because it strengths our values so we don't conform to their values and beliefs. If you have a happy couple and people constantly telling you they are missing out on fun they will start to feel uncomfortable. I want people like us not to feel pressured into conforming. I think that is fair enough to warrant a community. Exactly my friend still hung out with me and our roommates while being in serious relationship so did his gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:35 PM
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You loose freedom from being part of society man
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:31 PM
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I don't know what to call us exactly but I wouldn't call us traditional because that has negative connotation. But we also dont follow modern dating norms or ideas. We don't have casual sex ever nor do we believe we need sex outside of romantic relationship to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:30 PM
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Why do you assume she is gonna cheat though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:25 PM
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These are thoughts some people have but not all people do, my friend got into serious relationship on college but 6 years ago as his first relationship and he is still with her having fun
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:21 PM
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Sigh I am sad at the state of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:15 PM
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My post got deleted from yesterday but if you all want to debate me here than I will be happy to debate you guys. Someone in the other subreddit said why do you want to grow up so fast and have not have fun. So let me ask you how is being in committed relationship preventing you from having fun and if being in committed relationship is not fun for you why even do it? Why does it bother you all that I want to find a community where I belong. It's almost as if you are scared of a community that ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:14 PM
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It's not meant to be taken litterally though its just extreme example of how people here argue
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:10 PM
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I need to be with people like us, it get lonely in ocean full of people different from you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:44 AM
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How do we get out of lefty hipster IQ
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:33 AM
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I guess i n their perception normie ones are the hot sex positive women. Probably because we spent most time talking to women on this subreddit as opposed to women irl
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:27 AM
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> Dating for marriage and kids is the default social script. ​ There are articles and books like sex at dawn writing about extinction of commitment culture and monogamy. So many people saying casual sex is natural monogamy isn't. My old proffessor even said that monogamy won't exist in future. Not to mention people screaming divorce stats all the time couple with what I said above instilled a fear inside me. yes I am young
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:19 AM
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It has been made clear to me the kinds of women they talk about are sex positive women. I think they just have hard time finding women who are similar to them since bars are seen as main avenue for relationships within adults
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:12 AM
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I am just pointing out my observation man. You disappointment me yet again. Is it even possible for you to say something without mocking or is that like something you are born with? You sound really pathetic now
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:10 AM
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> Notice how you didn't address the point? Seems like you know I'm right lmao. A woman may cheat on her man with Henry Cavil but not the 250 pound neckbeard gamer. That's not "if they want to cheat on you, then they will". THEY CHEAT BECAUSE THE INCENTIVE AND SETTING IS TUNED. This what people of purple pill and other subreddits do they avoid the content of our argument and parrot their rhetoric over and over again
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:06 AM
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Its because these people believe our social environments don't influence a behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:03 AM
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Clubs are hot spots for single people to meet other single people for sexual and romantic purposes. To be honest its mostly about having similar values and life style. I don't want to date women who go clubbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:00 AM
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There are countless article talking about how common hook up culture. Hook up culture is not just casual sex but social narrative that all young adults are incapable of commitment so they need to sleep around to get out of system then settle down in a monogamous relationships https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2022/11/its-college-everyone-is-hooking-up-truths-and-misconceptions-about-hookup-culture-at-brown https://www.thecut.com/2017/08/why-dating-in-your-20s-is-terrible.html https://www.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:57 AM
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for once I agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:43 AM
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Why do you think its silly? is it because it goes against your sex positive beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:41 AM
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Is mocking me the only thing you are capable of doing. if so its kind of pathetic don't you think. As an adult shouldn't you be more mature than this. I find it disappointing that I met people younger than you who are way more mature than you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:40 AM
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who cares if you are insecure or not all humans are insecure no matter how much they hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:38 AM
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Yeah I agree with you definition actually you make a good point so I will use value instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:37 AM
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Why can't there be a community for that though? Can you cite me an evidence claiming half population follows commitment culture narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:36 AM
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You didn't really understand my post though its not about just getting into committed relationship. Its not just getting into relationship its specific narrative and philosophy. Why can't we have our own community, why doe sit bother you so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:34 AM
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how so, I don't really see it in my opinion. The closest thing is the monogamy subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:31 AM
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Thats why I am here to find people to collaborate with so we can structure our ideology together in a more cohesive way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:29 AM
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Are you a therapist? How are values and boundaries different in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:28 AM
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I truly hope she finds someone else because op deserves someone better than her in terms of compatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:24 AM
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Look man here is my advice, controlling is a problematic behavior but the thing is you don't have to date her though. This important all men and even women need to hear. Our insecurities are more important than a romantic partner. If a partner fails to respect and empathize with our insecurities dump them. Liberal society is demonizing insecurities more so than the problematic behaviors that are associate with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:22 AM
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Yeah this what people actually mean so they should say ultra sex positive liberal women rather than western women as whole. Like hello there are cool traditional women in the states.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:20 AM
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not all young people like to go to clubs for fun they might prefer coffee shops or other avenues not related to drinking
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:18 AM
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I thought the western modern women that they talk about are usually referring to specific type of women than a broad generalization
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:15 AM
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He could just break up with her which I would do if I was in his shoes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:12 AM
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what is a modern western women though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:11 AM
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You are correct but we can break up instead of control people instead correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:10 AM
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How have you been living in commitment culture? Whats wrong with trying to make an online community
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:59 AM
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You are just a bully who has not grown up there is no need for you to mock me as I did not shame or judge anyone. You feel the need to mock me is pathetic and juvenile. Why don't you touch grass. Before you say I should, I am on a self improvement journey, going out, working out, and writing a story.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:55 AM
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I have a blogger account and I have a note application called Obsidian which I will aggressively recommend to others. Its such a great application with endless possibilities. I talked to a women on reddit who actually gave me ideas of what commitment culture could look like but I kind of forgot some of the details. Like she suggest we have more swinger's clubs like the classical ones featuring swing dances. Picnics as opposed to expensive restaurants and making gifts instead of buying gifts. I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:53 AM
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I knew people like you will come here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:42 AM
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wdym
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:41 AM
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I knew I would get these aggressive comments, I know people like you hate the thought of us coming together as a community. I have not attacked anyone in my post and made it clear I don't want to judge or shame anyone. Why does this post trigger you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:41 AM
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I know you told me to get off reddit but I want to make cathartic posts here before I ask the mods to ban me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:31 AM
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Gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:40 AM
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You guys are eastern time zone?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:23 AM
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Is the subreddit dead around this time?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:01 AM
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It sort of breeds culture of fleeting gratification as opposed to sustaines happiness. This culture can take place in media which influences how we view sex and relationship and pushes a specific narrative of how young people are incapable of having a serious relationship. Humans are social animals and often form strong attachments and sex involves hormones that form attachments. So sex also functions as a bonding mechanism. With that said this all can be suppressed as we see in casual sex goers…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:36 AM
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This is one of the best answer in this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:29 AM
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I didn't say you did I heard heard these things from relationship subreddit posts. It may not be cheating but it should be allowed to break up with the person over this I am not trying to put words in your mouth I made a disclaimer that when I said you I meant people I have interacted on the Internet. Look we are enemies I can respect you but you are still an enemy though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:28 AM
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They are wanna be cheaters for sure lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:24 AM
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Don't remind me of the stupidity of this shit from highschool. I hate how schools segregate kids like this and enforce stupid social darwinism onto us
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:21 AM
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How they behave with their friends isn't a problem so long as it's not romantic or sexual in nature Them being romantic and sexual is a behavior they do with a friend or someone else though correct. Them sharing a room is not inherently romantic or sexual, but I can see how it would make some people uncomfortable But there isn't something inherently romantic or sexual though as that is defined through social construction. Kissing for example could be platonic and some cultures kiss as a way to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:18 AM
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Bro check out the sun about what would you consider not cheating while others would. All the women there are defending cheating like behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:10 AM
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I hope the women of this subreddit don't represent the real women we interact with. They all sound like bullies who never grew up or cheaters or potential cheaters to me. Even the sex positive man are like these but worse. There is only few people on this subreddit I actually respect
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:06 AM
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So you think monogamy is controlling? So is being uncomfortable with your partner sharing same room with the opposite gender over night some how problematic. So it's wrong to leave a partner if you suspect they are chearing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:02 AM
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So you think it's ok for a partner to share a hotel room with a person of the opposite gender? You think that's better than your partner sexting? I know you are arguing in bad faith because didn't say the friendship is the problem but how they behave with their friends is the problem. If they kiss their guy friend that's cheating. If they text late at night for shits and giggles that's raises my eyebrows. If they share a room over night I am breaking up without a doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:09 PM
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So you are ok with your man seeing a stripper? not with the sex positivity bullshit come on now. I could tell you are here in bad faith because youn ignored the reality of what I actually said. I said don't engage with thoughts and feelings and let it pass. I didn't say to suppress them or run wild with them. You are just here to express your political beliefs in bad faith rather than engage with my argument. Fineif you have to do that then go for it I suppose. But admit it you want to normalize…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:01 PM
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"You are not allowed to do X" (implied threat of: or I will leave the relationship) And "I won't stay in a relationship with you if you do X" There is a difference between the the two my guy and the fact you don't think there is shows me you are arguing in bad faith. People have the right to leave their partner for what ever reason. They are not obligated to remain with someone who is not compatible with them In both cases it's "I'll break up with you if you do X". I don't think it's somehow mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 10:18 PM
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It's not just semantics argument bro, I have taken psychology classes and talked to actual therapist this is how they define boundary. The fact you don't understand what boundary was makes me even more suspicious of you wanting to normalize cheating behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 10:04 PM
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Although by that definition, 99% of people in the world are cheaters, since it is nearly impossible for any person to never feel sexual or romantic affection for anyone except their partner, even if it's just in fantasy or viewing porn or erotica. Having romantic- and especially sexual- feelings for other people is normal and healthy and a part of being a human. Displaying romantic and sexual affection is a behavior not a feeling or thought. But here is the thing you liberals don't understand an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 10:01 PM
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How is it controlling when you are the one who leaves the relationship? Let's you don't like your gf dming guys then just leave. People can leave and not controll others. That's what makes boundaries different than rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:55 PM
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I hope you are correct
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:46 PM
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I've seen many people say that having friends of the opposite sex is cheating or disrespectful to the relationship. So if they get into a relationship with someone who already has opposite sex friends, the expectation is that person will stop interacting with those friends. Yeah it's toxic to control friendship circles like that but let me show some examples of what I mean though. Wife rents a room with a male friend over night faraway from you. Do you think it's ok to not have that kind of boun…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:45 PM
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This one aspect I hate about toxic masculinity as it also implies women should go after older man which is stupid in my opinion. Culture is really eager to push those kinds of relationships 🤮🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:26 PM
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You are just going to the extreme examples. What if I have boundary about not feeling comfortable with partner flirting with a guy or getting frequent rides from a male coworker
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:18 PM
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So what you are saying you are ok with other people mocking boundaries of others? It sure does seem like you want to normalize cheating my guy. If you cannot respect someone's boundaries then I grow suspicious of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:02 PM
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My definition of cheating is displaying romantic and sexual affection towards another person while being in a monogamous relationship. Breaking someone trust isn't cheating. Cheating does involve breaking trust but it's also about having sex and romantic intimacy with someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 08:42 PM
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People should be allowed to be upfront with boundaries though correct. If I say I don't prefer you flirting with guys it's a boundary. And if she breaks the boundary I should be able to leave without being called insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 08:37 PM
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I think normalizing not dating people you can't trust is important though. This is not what you implied or said you clearly sad you feel sad about people having boundaries and in relationships which to me seems like you want people to feel guilty about their preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 08:16 PM
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You didn't have to answer this stupid thread as it's just a Trojan horse attempt to normalizing cheating. Why wouldn't you be happy your partner cheated on you do. It shows they have autonomy and freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:55 PM
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No one should let my opinion make them feel guilty You say this as if we can control our reactive feelings. I guess I think it's kind of sad when people feel they need these rules/boundaries/control to avoid being cheated on though. If they think their partner would cheat on them without the rules they shouldn't be together. They don't prevent cheating. It gives a false illusion of "safety" but people cheat all the time in that type of relationship Sounds like you want people to lower their guar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:53 PM
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So you are definitely like me then it's good to know we are out there. Honestly we need our own culture and community
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:49 PM
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The comment section here are full of cheaters or wanna be cheaters who are normalizing cheating and gaslighting us by telling us we are controlling and insecure for wanting monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:48 PM
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The comment section is full of cheaters
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:45 PM
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So you are ok with your partner cheating on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:45 PM
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So people who are monogamous are insecure broken people while you make yourself out to be morally superior?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:44 PM
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It seems like you are trying to make people feel guilty for having boundaries that you don't have. Isn't dating about filtering out people you are not comfortable with? Dating isn't about getting decent people it's about getting compatible partners
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:41 PM
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But you are still putting up restrictions and restricting people freedom to sleep or form outside of your relationship. That's monogamy in a nutshell. I wouldn't call them restrictions since it's not about control but more so about boundaries since you don't control people but rather leave them. If my girlfriend flirts with guys spends one on one time with men then I am leaving without explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:39 PM
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What prevents you from having FWB or casual sex. As a man I don't have sex outside of romance because I strongly couple sex and romance together. I was wondering if other share my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:30 PM
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Most women here and man don't understand or refuse to understand sociology of human behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:25 PM
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I mean in the very early dating stages I get it, you don’t really know the person and it wouldn’t be smart to cut off other possibilities yet if you have them. But after you’ve been dating a while and are pretty sure you want things to go further, I agree. But this can overwhelm some people though like remembering dates and plans and it can cut down hobbies and other activities with friends and family. I personally don't want to date with a women who dates differently from me like having multipl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:15 PM
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This I agree but I don't see men discussing this. Men believe high ncount women are less value. It depends on the crowd you talk to since from my understanding redpill have been hijacked by grifters looking to make money. But I have met kind redpill men who do care about women and can argue in good faith cigarettes are bad for your health sex is not, in fact it's the opposite (if done safely) Sex can definitely be harmful even if done safely, people are exposed to STD and even pregnancy as well.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:40 PM
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Yeah this is exactly what I am talking about, if a culture has to demoralize it's consumers than the social narrative it tries to sell is sus
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:34 PM
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https://www.mywellnesshub.in/blog/flirting-or-just-being-nice-heres-how-to-find-out/#:~:text=A%20friendly%20look%20always%20stays,a%20certain%20interest%20in%20intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:30 PM
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promiscuity" is a word that's used only by guys who care about ncounts. It's an insult. What's wrong with caring about sexual values though if men don't want to date women who have casual sex or had casual sex shouldn't that be fine. It's not about ncount but more so sharing values of sex and social narratives when it comes to romance. I would argue it does promote promiscuouity in my opinion. It's the same thing that cigarettes promoted in the past as a sign of freedom. They promote sex outside…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:22 PM
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What do you mean let yourself being a victim? People don't choose to be victims? You just don't like people voicing their opinion don't you? I am growing up thank you very much I am going out and working out. So you can't just say I don't do anything but complain lol But if you're not exclusive, there's no commitment. We've been over this. If you've been on just a couple of dates it's not "dating". That's just polyamory my friend. Just admitted you want to be polyamorous from that start and conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:05 PM
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Being nice to someone is not flirting though and making people laugh is not flirting my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:48 PM
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She did not say objectifying she said promiscuouity and hypersexuality. These are things sex positivity advocates for in a women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:41 PM
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Why isn't exclusivity not the default though if people are monogamous why not just start out monogamous? But you people sort of shame people for wanting exclusive right off the bat right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:27 PM
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But feminism is encouraging those behavior in women with movements like sex positivity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:56 PM
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Then we won't duh, we have no obligation to date women who go to clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:54 PM
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Why would I be obligated to tell someone I'm not having sex with about other partners? Because you are dating them duh I did, and I stand by it 😊 Then don't police my speech then I said you sound like a victim because you do. Not because I'm trying to "get one over on you" What's wrong with being a victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:53 PM
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It's best not to date these types of women in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:51 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:51 PM
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Flirting is technique used to attract a romantic partner
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:49 PM
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Why does she fear us?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:22 AM
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Should I make a post discussing my ideology and beliefs just to share them. I just want discussion not heated debate
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:11 AM
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What was the context
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:10 AM
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What does exfoliate mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:10 AM
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Or we can just not date people who go clubbing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:46 AM
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Why isn't emotional cheating not considered cheating in your eyes? Why does a man need to flirt with girls when he has you? To say just going somewhere that's more likely for hookups = cheating, that's just a slippery slope argument. I don't think going to bars is cheating but it's a place that makes me suspicious along with other behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:45 AM
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You sure sound like the sex positivite feminist in this subreddit to me. Didnt you mentioned that you are not obligated to tell people you see that you are currently sleeping with other men? Didn't you say you won't police other people free speech or something too? People who complain about people complain usually do so because the things people complain about benefit them. What I mean is that when complain you precieve me as having victim complex because what I am complaining about benefits you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:10 AM
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I thought you are sex positive feminist based on your advocation for sleeping on first date without telling others you see. I don't think slut shaming is bad and actually think it's a good thing personally. With the rise of sex at dawn losers and people hating on monogamy slut shaming is a useful tool to protect commitment culture
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:57 AM
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Yeah but sexual relationships are included in the definition of polyamory though. It's like dogs are included in canine family while not all canines are dogs. I think judging people is stupid no matter who does it. But I'm not going to police peoples speech for the sake of others feelings. Then you support people who judge others who date differently then you let me explain with analogy I think judging is bad but I am not going to police people for slut shaming women. This is just me supporting …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:49 AM
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"involved in the practice of engaging in multiple romantic (and typically sexual) relationships, with the consent of all the people involved." It says sexual relationships in parenthesis here though. I don't judge. So I wouldn't say that. Can't speak for others though. But are you ok with others judging others for dating differently than you guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:42 AM
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We live in the age of ambiguity, uncertainty, and fleeting nature in modern era
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:34 AM
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monogamy as something owed to them after a period of promiscuity This is the social narrative that is pushed out by hook up culture. It says young people are incapable of love due to career instability and needing sexual variety so they need to have casual sex. Once it's out of their system and found stable career then they settle down
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:32 AM
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It's poly by definition especially when you are having sex with multiple people at once at the initial stages of dating. Enforcement is something small like telling a friend who dates differently than you that they are wierd or strange. I am just making a general statement not directed towards you. To show you my thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:28 AM
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Yeah but don't enforce your polygamous dating standards to other people. If people want exclusively from get go then that should be ok
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:19 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 01:51 AM
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Yeah but he had intention of cheating on you with her though right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:27 AM
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Bad faith actors tend to downplay these intimate interaction so they can take advantage of you. People need to definitely improve self esteem so they don't get gaslighted. Some feminist do down play this and make it into a social justice rhetoric to make them seem like they are in the right. Men gotta warn other men about these emotions manipulation strategies
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:08 AM
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I think most people would assume that if they are on a first date especially If they met on an app that they have been on other first dates and are actively dating. I don't date on apps or irl for matter so I wouldn't know I see what you trying to do here and I don't buy it and it's a terrible excuse. Sleeping once on first date is a put off for me and other men like me let's try not to weasel from this. We should be able to vet people without judgment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:04 AM
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I love your analysis it seems to be accurate from what I have read online and talked to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:02 AM
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Why do you need to make a distinction though? Form is observable while content isn't though that's why they believe in form over content.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:57 PM
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One at a time- dating is already slightly overwhelming in itself lol Comparatively multi dating is more overwhelming than not. Yeah I’m thinking from a practical sense because for me when I was still dating most first dates would go no where, the ones that did progress to a second date would naturally cool down the frequency you see other people. I never did have multiple second dates lined up but did have a few first dates lined up. Even at this stage people should have their boundaries. Like i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:55 PM
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I actually agree with but many of the people here will disagree with you and insist that people cheat in other places. But bars are hub for single people to meet though and that doesn't mean people can't cheat anywhere else but the social connotation of bars, so it's natural to assume that where people go to cheat. But we need research done to show where people cheat more so we can only assume for know. I agree with you that cheating starts of that flirty phase and cute interactions. Like a guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:51 PM
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For strangers though it makes no sense. Why waste your own time not messaging other people/ setting up other dates if you don’t know if the first date will even go well? If it does great you can gracefully bow out of the other ones if you feel your connection is strong already but if it doesn’t why start the whole Process from scratch? Because it could feel overwhelming keeping up dates and schedules with other people and could cause analysis paralysis. Being exclusive from the start is not indi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:44 PM
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I don't think it's immoral but it's not something I would partake in or be with someone who does. I guess it's more of a mainstream thing I suppose and I am not mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:29 PM
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I actually have not thought about that honestly but I guess that would be more applicable to complete strangers than someone in your social circle. But I usually don't here casual dating in that context though. It's usually seen as way to explore diverse set of people to find out what you really want or some rhetoric like that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:23 PM
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Yeah but the thing is being exclusive does not mean commitment though. You can still be exclusive and start out less attached and build up that attachment. But overall modern dating society needs to accept diverse dating strategies as diversity is good in this department instead of having monolith norms. Not everyone wants to be polyamorous from the get go and work towards monogamy and that should be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:22 PM
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It depends on the back story. What if they were friends before hand, what if they were family friends, sibling of your close friends, or someone you see regularly at church or community organization. Not everyone you date is a complete stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:19 PM
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Thank you I do my best
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:25 PM
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So, to answer your question, it is because masculine spaces more aggressively police and purity test masculinity than feminine spaces, as such, queer men are less likely to feel safe exploring their sexuality. Bi men especially can just leverage their ability to be attracted to both men and women, to just exclusively date straight and never come out of the closet or admit to anyone that they are also attracted to men. That's interesting but that still begs the question why is society fragile abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:22 PM
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Yeah in that case we are antagonistic in our beliefs and world view. But I wish you and your daughter a good life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:43 PM
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That's interesting analysis, I did not know that about left handed people. But this all does make sense actually. I wonder why bisexual men are more stigmatized
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:02 PM
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Wdym?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:52 PM
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Finally someone who understands the environment influences human behavior. It could also explain why homophobia was stronger when gender segregation was norm
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:45 PM
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There are queer theorist who believe everyone or most people are naturally inclined to believe humans are bisexual or sexual orientation changes. So it's not just religion trying to change people orientation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:19 PM
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Why do you think more people bisexual though?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:08 PM
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I have noticed that there are some suspicious people on reddit who give off cheating vibes especially when they defend cheating like behavior in subreddits like relationship advice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:24 PM
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Yeah that's a shitty experience to go through but I am glad you don't take their shit anymore. Those cheaters don't deserve any empathy or sympathy from anyone they deserve to be kicked to the curve. They belong to the streets
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:23 PM
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It was an honest mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:57 PM
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I apologize for thinking you are a mother. I take it that blue pill means liberalism and sex positivity and if that is the case than we are enemies but I respect you as an enemy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:56 PM
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I respect your wife she really cares for her daughter
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:19 AM
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I would want to teach my daughter this as well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:17 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:16 AM
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Sounds like you are raising an intelligent daughter man I am happy for you and your daughter. She has a great dad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:14 AM
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I would advice my daughter to couple sex with romance and disuade her from decoupling sex and romance. I would want her to only date seriously and look for commitment when it comes to romance. I would tell her there is no shame to having sexual feelings or thoughts but not to let them overwhelm her to point of distracting her from her studies. I would want to teach her healthy relationship and emotional regulation skills. I also would warn her about hedoninism and the romanticism for fleeting jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 02:54 AM
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But people love to keep things ambiguous so we cannot make appropriate analysis without further information. This why I hate phrases I fell out of love. It sounds like they magically fell out of love when in reality it could be something that happened over time or due to cheating. These stupid ambiguous rhetoric needs to die especially since they can trigger people with OCD
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 02:34 AM
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There are many women who also feel resentful for having kids and regretful. There is also a recent paper examining postnatal depression with women. The pessemistic beast runs in both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 02:30 AM
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He is a pragmatist he realizes that due to atomization and alienation people are becoming more distant, avoident of relationships. The media is encouraging folks from both genders to leave partners and chase after the next fleeting stimulus. The joy does not come from the stimulus but rather from its fleeting life span
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 02:28 AM
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That's is true you and I are not always right but the fact that we look at larger sociological and cultural factors beyond my free choice or muh human nature is more than refreshing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:02 PM
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You are by far one the most intelligent person in this subreddit. That's because you analyze human behavior from sociological perspective rather than a liberal perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:28 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:10 PM
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Do you deny that teens can be horny and want to have sex with a person because they find them hot? Do you deny that teens can choose to act on those feelings? Do you deny either or those things? I don't deny that but I am saying they can be taught to couple romance and sex together
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:27 AM
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Where did I say there is natural inclination to couple sex with romance. My argument is that people attitude towards sex is shaped by social factors not just hormonal ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:19 PM
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I never argued that the coupling of sex and romance. My argument is that kids can be taught to couple romance and sex. I didn't finish that sentence I didn't argue for coupling of sex and romance being innate that's what I meant. Nah you just seem agitated to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 09:59 PM
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You're quoting the article l sent you. There are many factors that make people more or less comfortable acting on sex. That doesn’t change that people want it. I did use your article but it shows that there are more factors influencing sexual behavior than just hormones. People want it but their perception of sex is shaped through social and cultural factors rather than just hormones at know. I am not too sure about the conservative states and religious area and what happens there but I have mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 09:32 PM
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Not necessarily since the biggest egg laying animal were dinosaurs and they still layed relatively small eggs. I will be honest I have not done research in pregnancy but I think it's worse in humans due to walking up right and our spines couples with being a placental mammal so if there is a way to work around it it could be much better
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:38 PM
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Do you think that humans started with a dating culture or romantic relationships? Dating and romance are relatively new concepts. There was arranged marriage or the father chose the husband. There are still countries that allow forced marriage. Wow, how romantic and sexually appealing. Can you provide any related studies or articles that say what you mean instead of saying I don't see why we can't apply a to x? I showed you proof that teen hormones make them horny and that teens and even preteen…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:28 PM
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I think single men would want to advocate for an artificial women since paternal certaintity is guaranteed from the get go. In a post capitalism society these technology will be made to the public so that would solve the issue with it not being open to public due to costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:14 PM
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How is radfeminism different from liberal feminism in this context
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:11 PM
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But what about laying eggs or giving birth to a joey in a pouch like our marsupial cousins
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:10 PM
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Interesting, I hear that people need to experiment all the time from liberals
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:43 PM
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You sounded so upset about this lol. An adolescent's interest in a sexual relationship is also influenced by the hormones. It says influence not the only thing contributing towards sexual behavior found in teens. Here's a medical article saying that kids develop their and explore their sexuality between 9-16. They don't really define what it means to explore sexuality and go on to list porn as a sexual activity. So with that in mind they can include masturbation as sexual activity as well. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:42 PM
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So are you saying you don't need to experiment to figure out what you like?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:05 PM
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I whole heardly agree with everything you said. I think it's important for kids to learn to love when they are young. Even if they break up they will have practiced skills that will help aid them in future relationships. I believe that fomo is not natural as liberals would like us to believe. I strongly believe is amplified through consumerism and technology. When people grow older they learn that bonding overtime is great indication of love as opposed to the instant butterflies in stomach. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:03 PM
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You've moved on to making up shit that was never said by me? Okay then. Continue to argue points that you make up for yourself. What else did I say in your head? I didn't say you I said you said I just said it's anti romance to spread ideas about this. It's just a generalization that I hear often and I would consider it anti romance. I don't understand why you are being aggressive here. Impossible. You said they're not interested in their sexuality. You can make whatever excuses you want. Teens …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:55 PM
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The average isn't indicative of all teenagers from all types of schools though. Even if people loose their virginity at that age it could be due to being in romantic relationship, people lying, and unfortunately due to pressure or coercin. There people out there like me who couple sex and romance so there is that. It's anti romance to spread ideas that teenagers and young adults cannot handle serious relationship especially when resources to improve relationships skills and emotional regulation …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:16 PM
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It is within the tendency of society to change. People aren't going to tolerate things that actively opress them or cause them harm. People are gonna want to change society in a way that benefits them the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:02 PM
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I was a romantic when I was a teenagers and a bunch of my classmates coupled up. My friends were romantic or never displayed interest in sexuality. If generalizing men and women are bad then why do we generalize teenagers to be certain way when. Disney shit can be real it's just you don't want it to be real. It's all goes back to the anti romance trend going on in modern capitalist society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:00 PM
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Equality under the law is the only one I care about
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:04 AM
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This what these guys do they just project a boogey man onto us to seem superior or something when in reality it shows they have nothing to offer than their imagined ego
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:06 AM
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Bro he is reading way too much into it, shining example of virtue signaling and whit knight behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:04 AM
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It's just weird they phrases it like repent. My bad I didn't read your comment properly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 10:17 PM
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Isn't that still generalizing though?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:54 PM
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Wait you are not the original comment I responded to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:24 PM
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Yeah values can change but it's rare though. A sex positive women who values sex outside of romantic relationship is not going to change into sex neutral women who values sex only in romantic relationship. I did negate to mention that it's not just value but attachment to specific social narrative of finding partners. If they don't share this attachment to the social narrative in addition to sex then they are filtered out Actually a lot of people keep values the same for their entire life such a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:14 PM
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There is nothing to forgive though it's not a moral judgement it's about shared values. If you had sex outside of romantic relationship that's because you value sex differently than me. It's not that you are a bad person for having sex outside of a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:56 PM
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Yeah but you are excluding an entire group which follows definition of generalization. It's not a bad thing I am just pointing out the logical inconsistentency in your argument
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:53 PM
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Because it's not about the actual body out like these red pillers like to believe. It's about how we value sex and our attachment to specific social narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:59 PM
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But you are making a generalization by not wanting to date a certain group of men though. Why else would you refuse to date virgin men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:53 PM
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I personally don't categorize women as either for hook up or LTR. I am just interested in LTR and always have been. The madanna whore complex seems alien to me I always associated sex with romance. I don't think I can have sex without romantic connection and intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:55 PM
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I agree that blaming women for their dating problems is problematic and incorrect but when we blame external forces people get just as mean and vile towards. Like when I complain about think tanks who write about extinction of monogamy or hook up culture people just resort to adhominens and projecting boogey man onto us. I have only had few good faith discussions around this topic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:22 AM
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I would not go about criticizing hook up culture that way in my opinion. Before anyone says what's the point of criticisng something that doesn't harm people, think tanks write articles peices and books about how monogamy and paternal certainty are tied up with patriarchy and private property so in egalitarian world these things won't exist. Monogamy and paternal certaintity by themselves have not hurt people. There will people still saying well some monogamous relationship are toxic though but …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:09 PM
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Multi dating startegy is just polyamorist trying to get monogamous people that's it. They use rhetoric we need sexual variety or we feel FOMO or whatever rhetoric they use monogamous people to conform to their lifestyle. There shouldn't be monopoly of dating style there should diversity of different dating styles. Progressives preach about diversity, why not diversity of dating culture
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:51 PM
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Yeah that is exactly what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:11 PM
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But I’ll keep it to this. If you cannot find anyone who meets your standards you should re-examine your standards and consider why you can’t find someone who agrees/meets them. I agree with this but in a different perspective. Instead of introspection analysing the cultural economic environment will tell a bigger and better story on why it's hard to find a partner with similar values. It's in all our best interests to want to be within a community with similar values and norms. Us complaining ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:41 PM
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You have to seek out partners that share your values and preferences, not continually lament to the internet that the world isn’t conforming to yours. But it is in anyone best interest to want to be in a community where people conform to their standards and preferences as that makes it easier to find a compatible partner. But there is also another aspect to it is that there are think tanks who theorize about the extinction of monogamy, paternal certaintity, and cultural meaning of sex who provok…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:13 PM
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There is no justification to cheat ever. Appeal to nature is the most stupidest argument anyone can make.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:46 AM
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I apologize for my crass comment I am in a bad mood today. I just tired of the appeal to nature arguments from both red pill and feminist alike
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:14 AM
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I have argued people like you and I am tired of all this stupid appeal to nature bullshit. If you hated cheating why go around and bring up female cheating due to biology. You would just shut down their stupid evo psych argument. I apologize if I sounded interested in stupid biological arguments. I understand you saying that you think cheating is morally incorrect but you bio argument just urks me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:11 AM
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I don't care about your relationship style and never asked if you are open or not so I don't know why you have to tell me that. If cheating is biological justified then so is infanticide, cannibalism, and murder. If you all want to talk about biology and how we are meant to be some way then go all the fucking way. Humans have killed pregnant women, killed children, and canabalised each other. So let me ask you this why is it important we keep bringing up nature in these arguments? Why not just s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:58 AM
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I read that paper but that does not justify cheating and it makes me more worried about paternal certainty. We ought to stop with appeal to nature arguments they are a fallacy for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:27 AM
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It seems hook up culture is pretty prevalent with young adults so I guess that's where she and I are coming from
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:00 PM
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So people should not have any intentions or expectations of wanting a permanent relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:57 PM
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You are just projecting a boogey man in my opinion. To me she is just arguing that intentions matter and she doesn't see the point into getting into relationship with intention of leaving. I don't get it either but you people do you ok
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:53 PM
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Yeah I argued with a dude about the size of Deinotherium giganteum and another dienotherium species. I said giga seems much bigger than the other one while he said they weren't that big. He literally wanted to argue this shit lol. I think intention should play a role in how we define relationships in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:51 PM
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Objective AD this is reddit people want to be contrarian for no reason. I have talked to this person before they argue in bad faith often it's best not to engage if conversation is silly as this. But hey it's nice to meet someone who also favors commitment culture
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:30 PM
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You are just strawmaning this person here. Are you mad that someone has an opposing value to yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:28 PM
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Things don't just go away for no reason, we live in a cause and affect world. Something has to cause for something to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:27 PM
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You make presence sound like it's not happiness or can't be happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:26 PM
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True champion of commitment culture
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:25 PM
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This my opinion but people who are against ideas like this to vet out cheaters are usually either cheaters or potential cheaters. People who complain about people complaining usually do so because they benefit from the things people complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:15 PM
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I am all about suppressing cheaters and having strict age vertifications
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:09 PM
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OP I don't see the point in making this post why do you want to know the merits of the enemy? I tried arguing against hook up culture it did not work well. They get to theorize extinction of monogamy and spread propaganda on how people need sexual variety before settling down. We need to build up our own culture and community. We need to strengthen commitment culture and fire back against hook up culture. This isn't about casual sex goers but about us commitment culture folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 01:41 AM
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Well I don’t have a crystal ball but I find it hard to believe something most humans have done - pair up with one person and one person only - throughout human history will fall away. Most women don’t have casual sex or at the most try it once and decide it’s not for them and do look for committed LTR’s. Have you done research into relationships of hunter gather society? You misunderstood the fear
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:22 PM
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That explains why you are willing to let go of your attachments so easily. Yeah that's what all liberals believe as they only care about freedom of choice but not the conditions in which those choices are made and certain not the factors in what leads to making that choice. For example when presented with a light saber liberals only see a light stick not the culture behind lightsaber and community behind it. They only care about the joy the light stick brings them not the joy of being a part of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:28 PM
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If you don't care about your teddy bear being taken away from you then why do you want a teddy bear? That makes no sense to me personally. Normally if people are attached to something they want to defend it from being separated from it. That is how you determine how attached someone is. But in liberal society attachments are seen as problematic and we are pressured to just be ok with letting go without any fight or complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:06 PM
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Can you say that for sure though with absolute certainty? When I bring my fears of monogamy going extinct from the think thanks who predict monogamy will go extinct. And the women who had casual sex and is monogamous and sex positive women who happen to be monogamous tell me to ignore them and enjoy monogamy rather than countering these think thanks. This shows me they don't care if monogamy goes extinct and refuse to understand my fears and concern. I am not even sure why these women and men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:53 PM
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These women are using feminism to justify their blatant islamaphobia and racism. They are excusing imperialism with feminism that's all. Next thing you know they will excuse cheating with feminism which they already doing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:23 PM
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But those women won't care if monogamy goes extinct
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:21 PM
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I call cap
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:17 PM
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This one of my great fear that cheating is going to be normalized = "it's my body and I do what I want even in context of monogamous relationship, it's not against the law to cheat and shouldn't it's expression of individuality"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:17 PM
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I don't normally comment here but your replies here are brilliant. You point out the illogical behavior that these people in reddit exhibit and call them out. This is how I would argue in this pathetic subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:22 AM
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