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Discussionwonderingwhether54/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 06:59 PM
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Except TRP created horrors in their quest to do that. I remember in 2015 reading about how women were just the oldest kids in the house. AWALT. And tricks to get women to sleep with you. The rapey "close" when you would try to push through a woman's "anti- slut defense" and basically rape her when she said "no". RooshV Cheateu Heartiste saying they disliked women with degrees. The wall. You created the monsters you were seeking and now the world is a wasteland.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 11:21 PM
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I need this help pls.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/12/19 02:29 AM
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I don't need a friend. I need a long term bf and eventually a husband. I don't want a hundred male friends. Like really I don't.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/12/19 02:16 AM
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I don't think most women are looking for a husband past 40, especially if they are hoping to have kids. And a 40 year old guy who is banging 20 year olds is an entirely useless individual from a female standpoint. As a young late 20s person, I'd avoid such a guy because he'd offer sex without commitment. And since I can make my own money I'm uninterested in any of his tricks or dinners or whatever. A 30-40 year old woman would look at him and realize he is likely not marriage material. Men who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 04:08 AM
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who they won't marry. So how useful are they to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 03:51 AM
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Pls don't call the brain meat, as a neurologist it hurts my soul. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:07 PM
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I think you are vastly underestimating the amount of women w/out intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:06 PM
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I disagree with you, this whole sub is in bad faith. Atlas Shruggin is purporting to explain blue pill when he/she is a red piller and doesn't understand it. How is that in good faith? I feel that the misunderstanding of blue pill and the obsessive desire to shoehorn everyone who is "not red pill" into a box is in bad faith and I wish the moderators would call it out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:05 PM
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And some women will be single and always were single. Not of us can find love either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 03:13 AM
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I suggest no longer trying to explain stuff you clearly don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 03:12 AM
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poor guy is unaware that 90% of the psych behavior papers he cites are utter fucking crap. And that's the scientific word. Psych is in a huge replication crisis right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 03:11 AM
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Also as someone who is potentially going into neurology, the brain is vastly more glorious than a "squishy" bundle of meat. Plz. ;_;
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 03:10 AM
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thank you. I just realize that red pillers are utterly deluded about the world. I don't have a pill or way of understanding the world because the world is cruel, unfair and makes no sense. It doesn't matter what you do, time and chance come for us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 03:07 AM
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He's pointing out your data has massive flaws that make your statements at best misguided and at worst misleading. Just because you have data doesn't mean your data backs up your points or is even correct. Especially when you're talking about society as a whole it's kinda irresponsible to make such broad conclusions about relationships off a very limited data set. Not only is it irresponsible, it is all just plain incorrect. It pains me that PPD seems to not understand rudimentary data analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:39 AM
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If you are mandating that men get 50% of scholarships no matter the quality of their applications or the work put in.....that's affirmative action for men. The very definition of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:35 AM
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When it comes to sex women still love sex just like men do. They just don't sweat sex as much as men because they can get sex anytime. I'm a woman and I'm telling you that we don't think about sex the same. And she's really horny and doesn't want her toy to get it done. She gets on Tinder and weeds through the horny men who want sex. Knowing most average men she's likely to find some guys who a 7s or aboves because all the men below basically don't exist. She hits it off with the guy and they ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:32 AM
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Men usually prefer to have sex with a person. Otherwise men would probably just fuck sex dolls. They like to get to know women just like women want to get to know men Sure they "prefer" it. But they don't need it. And that's the argument men here are making. they argue sex is like water, food or air and it's a need not a want. I agree that the sex drive is biological and an urge, that's why we masturbate. But we do not need to have sex with another person, that's a preference. a want. That's bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:25 AM
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Ahh, you wound me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:15 AM
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I don't agree. I think women complain less about it because society never speaks of this. I mean how many new york times articles have you seen written about the way men's apps are privileged at liberal arts colleges? ​ Most women don't know this stuff is happening
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:13 AM
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Reven311, ravish us with more tales of humanity's eventual decline
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:08 AM
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Avocado toast is actually terrible man. I'm so embarrassed that I paid money for that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:06 AM
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Yup. A lot of the liberal arts college have quiet affirmative action for men policies. Sigh. The thing is women aren't out her complaining about it. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:03 AM
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Honestly I think my sex drive is also higher than most men. We women just don't want to be used as a jerk off puppet. That is why we refuse more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:01 AM
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Oh my God, one of those evo biologists. As a bio major I always laugh at those guys. They're like the buzzfeed of biology. What a joke,
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:00 AM
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wild. A man can have sex with his hand if he needs it. maslow put sex at the bottom of the pyramid but he never specified that the sex had to be with someone else. ​ I find it so frustrating the way men assume their sexual needs are the most important things on the planet. That their desire for sex is more important than food, kindness, beauty or anything else. Congrats, you have problem and so does everyone else. Stop trying to fight some suffering Olympics" and pretend your problems are so muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:57 AM
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thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:54 AM
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Men simply cannot understand that casual sex sin't that great for women. if I want ice cream but you give m 500 hamburgers and say "You should be happy I gave you hamburgers"; it doesn't change the fact that I want ice cream. ​ Sure I want sex, most women do but in the context of a *committed relationship*. ​ Also, by the numbers, the amount of women who orgasm from casual sex is really low. So it's more like I'm getting a bunch of spoiled hot dogs. ​ yeah. I don't want them. And if guys insist …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:53 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:50 AM
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Except for me it's the office. I will never understand the appeal of Friends. ​ I also admittedly don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:50 AM
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Can confirm. my buds and I were insecure weirdos in high school and college. We didn't exist to guys cause we weren't hot. We were the friends to be distracted while guy 2 tried to get with hot friend. It really makes people bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:48 AM
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That might be there too, but the effect must be small. I mean I assume the red pill is such a small community that few people care but now I'm shocked that almost everyone knows what the red pill is about. The funny thing is when guys post on the red pill they are basically putting a giant billboard up in flashing lights "Do not get married!" And yeah as a 20 something, TRP has made me more wary of men. But eh, most men aren't on TRP. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:44 AM
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And why would you want to be miserable at your job every day of your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:39 AM
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So affirmative action for men? I mean it's ok if that's what you think should happen but let's be open about what we are doing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:37 AM
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I like medicine cause yeah, we get to help people. We make good money and I don't have to always feel like I'm not good enough or explain my existence like I would if I were an engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:36 AM
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In Med school right now, we are at 50/50 and slowly making parity with surgery. I want it at 50/50 and not more though because I truly don't believe an all female doctor workforce will appropriately be able to serve our male patients. There are just things men don't feel comfortable telling me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:34 AM
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Person above stated research showing women are out earning those men too. Coming back here after being away from two years always makes me shocked by how limited red pillers are in their view of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:33 AM
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This is why all the blue pill people left this site. Red pillers cannot handle the truth. Anytime any piece of data upsets their preconceived notions about the world it's all... I'm done with you. ​ Why the fuck do you guys waste our time like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:27 AM
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What you guys never mention is what the male to female sex ratio on these accounts is. On tindr women are 30% of the population and you idiots are trying to act like those women represent all of us. HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TELL YOU IT DOES NOT? ​ Why are men so thick?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:25 AM
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May I suggest life is a good refutation to RP. Look around you everywhere you can see hot girls with less attractive men. You can see girls who value their ideas and hobbies. Women and men in equal relationships which work well for them. You need to move away from reading relationships from a book, life doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 11:24 PM
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I once got an rper to admit his ideas were basically the same as going to rp church. He could not refute this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 11:22 PM
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Their lit is all misinterpretated. I know cause I read the art of war and love Machiavelli since I was 16. These idiots don't really know that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 11:21 PM
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Nah. We just downvoye a little. I was banned from trp cause I just posted on bp once. Women cannot go to trp and say"as a woman" but bop allows me. To say " as a man"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 11:19 PM
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Look,if part of red pill is taking responsibility for your actions then be honest with yourself. "It was true to myself" you say. You know who else says that? SJWs. "True to myself" sounds like nonsense college students say when they've made poor decisions and you're not in college anymore. If a man's word is his bond, you have just shown you are a man who cannot be trusted. By cheating instead of divorcing her you have damaged yourself as man. Worse than that, if and when your wife finds out th…
/r/MarriedRedPill03/06/17 12:12 PM
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I say it because look at how red pillers act and what they say: When you converse with them or when they post field reports, their field reports are all I lift I had hot sex with my wife life is great but how great can things really be when you're constantly pretending to be someone you're not? And when the wife you lie next to at night, doesn't, in your mind, even love you? In that case, what is the worth of a marriage? or a relationship? It makes no sense. The point of those models is to prote…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 01:19 PM
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ha! I'm in therapy for this right now. You protect yourself but you don't live, not really. Look at these red pillers and the kind of lives they have, its exhausting, they scheme every day and night trying to make sure they always have the upper hand in the relationship, trying to pretend not to care, but they do. In the end, the girl leaves them anyway. They dissemble so much and pretend to be who they are not that even when they lie in bed with the girl they wanted at night, she knows as much …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 04:11 AM
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What do you wanna know?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 03:45 AM
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mostly are pragmatic and gain things for their interest first. Making poor decisions about why people do what they do or assuming you know why people act why they do and using those poor decisions to make up a cynical view of the world to protect yourself from ever being hurt or vulnerable is a completely hopeless strategy which will fail you everytime. And, as you stated, it doesn't explain differences in people's behaviors at all either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 03:36 AM
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oh no, that didn't happen to me. that was an example. I think rpers at best can generalize what women do, but not why women do it. Then again, it is not they care about it... See I don't even think they can succesfully generalize what women do and If one doesn't care why 50% of the population does one thing in anyway, then that seems to me like that person is pretty incurious about humanity completely. That's like a girl saying to me "I don't care why guys do anything they do" seems bad man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 03:27 AM
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hmm, the problem is our experience often lies. How we see and cognitively interpret things = our experience and that is often wrong. Case in point: I gain twenty five pounds and gaining weight makes me angry person who screams at my wife every morning. My wife gets fed up and leave me. I use this experience to claim: Women all want men with six packs. But really my wife left me because I was angry and a misery to be around not because of my weight gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 07:52 PM
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Isn't that what everyone does? Really can we ever truly know what other people are thinking? Red pill gets it wrong maybe 90% of the time because they keep trying to cram people into a model that doesn't work. I get it wrong probably 78% of the time. Still better but not great. The inner world of your best friend are often as distant to you as the furthest star in the galaxy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 07:46 PM
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Huh, I struggle with it but I look at their actions, their faces, what they do, their behavior and I try to imagine what their motivations might be. I try to filter out my own predispositions but I understand that I cannot do so successful. i try to think about the subtext and the obvious things they say and what they mean by what they aren't even saying. but even then I am liable to get it wrong. and even trained psychiatrists do, which is why I wonder how the RPers can ever believe they are an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 07:41 PM
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I can't speak for all blue pillers cause we are not a collective but I am interested in how humans work and why they do what they do. I just think RP is way too simplified of a concept and kind of intellectually prone to taking short cuts and enjoying confirmation bias. I also think it is really really hard to make a model of millions of people due to their sex. The within group differences are more salient than the differences btw groups. Tldr; BPers are interested in people we just think RP ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 12:50 AM
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Hey man, I have been there. Depression is really difficult and it sucks your soul, Pm me if you want to talk. I know how it feels.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/17 01:51 AM
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I've seen this with my own eyes man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 04:22 AM
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So many low smv want a 8 whike rejecting girls who are actually in their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 12:58 AM
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I'm pretty sure you said she was the doctor and you are the lawyer. I'm a little confused on how you're going back and forth and back because no where have I seen you stating you are a medical doctor, unless we are talking about PH.d's, which is a different type of doctor, but not quite what one thinks of. Aren't you the one who sits at home playing house dad while your wife subsidizes your internet writings? It is well known and I have discussed many times my wife makes more money, that I am no…
/r/TheRedPill04/12/16 06:26 PM
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You still haven't told us who brings the bacon in your relationship, BPP. Because you said your wife is a doctor, and you are unemployed. My point is that your entire dream of male supremacy and what men bring to the table ends in your own life. You aren't even the breadwinner of your own home.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/16 02:46 PM
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It is not an ad hominem attack. Just reality. I am not asking you to shack up with me, I think what scares you is that I do not at all care how you feel one way or another. Love is all you can offer me that I could not give myself. You are not any more of a prize than the rest 300 million humans. Really, you are not.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/16 07:34 PM
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We get to achieve and do work that is meaningful and interesting. I truly love what I study and am thrilled to be there, 50 y ago, I probably would have been stuck in a kitchen with 5 babies or something truly terrible.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/16 01:26 AM
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Leadership? I can make my own decision, thanks. Stability? I am stable. Emotional balance- how odd. As if without men we could not manage our emotions. Physical protection-most men cannot even bench press nowadays. A gun is much easier and requires less effort. Will buy one in a few years. Income? Come on. Look at BPP, he doesn't even have a job. His wife make most of the dough. I know I am going to be set for the profession I am training in. Sex- you can get that from guys with NSA and it is fa…
/r/TheRedPill01/12/16 01:24 AM
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Thank you. This is what my generation of women has been saying loud and clear.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/16 01:19 AM
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I think you overestimate how much women want you. What good is a guy like you except for making babies? I mean I would really need to be convinced why being with a man like you would be worth it? Sex I can get cheaper and elsewhere, food I can cook myself, money lol, I am in school and I will make my dough. The only reason any shacks up.with a guy rt now is for love. But I cannot see how one woulf fall in love with a bitter guy.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/16 01:17 AM
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You know if you were only keeping a wife to cook, you should just order a short order cook or maid, actually cheaper and waste less of our time.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/16 01:13 AM
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What is being firm enough? And why is that something you get to decide?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 10:34 AM
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This is an echo chamber and if you hot into the real world you would see how unreasonable you truly are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 10:32 AM
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You are defending rapists. I am only 125 pounds please explain to me how you expect me to push a 160 or 170 pound full grown guy off me ? I am waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 10:31 AM
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The post is a bit old and when I click on the link to look for the data supporting it, I find none. So yeah. But I do see that women that are accepted have a higher graduation rate than men, so better luck next time, mkay?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 05:36 PM
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Yeah. That's not true. And there is no statistical difference btw male and female mcat scores. Better luck next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 04:29 PM
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We're also 50% of the entering medical school classes. I hope you're not saying that half your doctors are unproductive. I suggest not pissing us off, since we will no doubt be the ones putting you under anesthesia and diagnosing your cancers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 04:16 PM
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From how he is speaking. I do not think he loved her either. Even more, even if his wife was not sure, he admits she suspected that he was cheating. The truth was, he fucked up by cheating, fucked up by dissolving trust in the relationship, and fucked up by giving a fuck me or fuck you talk to a pregnant woman. That is why instead of patting him on the back, mrp should see this as a relationship failure on his part. I was not the one who said it, but the guy needs to take responsibility. There i…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/05/16 07:37 PM
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Dick or gtfo.
/r/askTRP15/05/16 04:36 AM
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That is idiotic. It takes two to tango, you fucked up, cheated and broke your marriage and now you are a sad failure.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/05/16 04:32 AM
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Look, men are responsible for themselves and their happiness. Only pathetic women fight for men who do not want to be there.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/05/16 04:28 AM
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does not really mean much at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 03:32 AM
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can confirm, we are doing worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 03:31 AM
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I don't know man, you sound pretty triggered yourself.
/r/MGTOW09/05/16 12:25 PM
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I would be insulted by most of your statements but well, they're not true. What's the point of this conversation, we've loss respect for each other. I think you're an insufferable jackass who trolls the internet on your free time, and well, you believe that my intellectual capacity is low. You're not going to convince me without explaining or somehow showing why you are right and I am wrong. Telling me "I have never taken a stats class in my life" isn't explaining to me why married women should …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 02:34 AM
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You're an idiot. The question literally asked for All WOMEN. Are married women...women? Yes. Then adding those proportions of never married who want to be and divorced/widowed who wish to be married, then most women are either married or want to be. It is not a tough concept. Despite me LITERALLY TELLING YOU the question is not ALL SINGLE women, you keep insisting on arguing about only never married/single. Nice. But you didn't read the question. Why don't you get that through your head? Most wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 02:36 PM
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Aww, I appreciate the thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:05 AM
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I think my safety is just as important as everyone else's. Before, there was a mechanism to make women feel safe in our bathrooms. We said, it is a woman's only space. But now with the definition of woman opened up to a feeling of being trans that cannot be biologically confirmed or confirmed in any sort of way, we don't have that protectionn. Also, there was a strong social component of shaming towards men in the wrong bathroom, don't go there. But now, I can see a situation in which a woman is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:04 AM
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I think my safety is just as important as everyone else's. Before, there was a mechanism to make women feel safe in our bathrooms. We said, it is a woman's only space. But now with the definition of woman opened up to a feeling of being trans that cannot be biologically confirmed or confirmed in any sort of way, we don't have that protectionn. Also, there was a strong social component of shaming towards men in the wrong bathroom, don't go there. But now, I can see a situation in which a woman is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:04 AM
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You're entitled to your opinion but I just don't think either of us will see eye to eye on this. And that's ok. 1) The context of the conversation was : Women were talking about what womanhood meant to them. I was told I needed to call menstruation part of uterushood. It was idiotic. 2) I want to address two main points your brought up. A) Notice you have to believe in male or female brains due to trans people. But what if brains are just brains? I mean science does not need to be created to con…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:58 AM
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What part of saying those women who were NEVER MARRIED are not representative of ALL WOMEN do you not understand? Are my words confusing you, are you unable to read english or something? It's basic stats. And please, I've left college and I'm on my way to graduate school this year. I think you're the one who is missing introductory stats, which in that case, you can always take a refresher course in that or reading basic English.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 11:53 PM
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trans people that I know have told me that they'd known they were different all their lives. Even if the connections don't snap into place until later, they don't just "become" trans once it all comes together. Okay, I can't refute someone's internal experience, however I can question what a trans woman means by " I feel I am trans" And isn't "I feel I am trans" different than the experience of womanhood, why then must we expand womanhood to incorporate them? I don't understand that. WHy can't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 11:34 PM
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Unfortunately, 30% of never marrieds is NOT a random sample of the population. I don't really see how you don't get that. Never married are different ideologically, racially and economically than the rest of the population. I'm a blue piller, but I think you're the one being a willfully obtuse jackass. Have a great day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 11:11 PM
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You know I agree with you. Have an upvote haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 08:05 PM
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Agreed. And I am really angry about the way some extreme trans activists are policing what women can say about their bodies. For example, some schools have banned the vagina monologues on account that not all women have a vagina. Ok, whatever, but what about us women who do? Don't we matter in our own movement anymore? or there are things like michelfest, where women only gather, and trans women are angry about it. But there are transwomen only spaces where cis women cannot be. I feel like a 2nd…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:30 PM
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It is though. Are you saying that being a woman is something that is chosen internally? Because I never woke up one day and chose to be a woman, I was assigned it and the roles around it. I think an important aspect of gender is that it is societally determined not your choice. I mean, this has been studied extensively and trans people have existed throughout human history. And it's not like a fixed gender binary is true across all of nature. I won't be condescending and give you a bunch of link…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:25 PM
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There is a difference between sex and gender, that's kind of the whole point of this, no one is saying that sex is a feeling, sex is what you're born with. Other people not identifying with the genitals they were born with has nothing to do with you or your sex (or gender, which I'm guessing is what you meant). That's not really true. When trans people claim that they are women because they "feel like it" or "don't identify with their genitals", then they are changing the definition of what it m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:03 PM
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I object to the idea that my entire sex is just a feeling so yeah, I have no issues with lesbians or bi women, but I have issues with the idea of trans women. Also, there is no way to differentiate those who experience gender dysphoria from those who claim to in order to have access to womens spaces. I would be ok with a unisex bathroom set aside for gender questioning women/ men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 05:40 PM
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I don't think so. If you feel that it is right to make arguments about all women from 30% of the population, be my guest. But let's not pretend that makes any kind of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 05:37 PM
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The methodology was random surveying (N=over 10,000). but I'm not arguing about the methodology, I'm arguing about your interpretation of the findings. Those are two different things. Without any statistical data whatsoever to substantiate that claim. The irony, it burns. Yeah, I do. Assuming women who are married want to be married, and factoring in the half of women who are unmarried that do not want to be, and the 30% of women who would like to remarry, we can easily argue that most women fal…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 05:04 PM
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My experience has not be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 04:34 PM
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The flaw is that never marrieds are only 17% of the population and previously married, according to this article, we might estimate to be 15% http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/22/divorced-women_n_3636650.html so together, both only make up 32% of the population, it would be extremely disingenuous to make any statements about all women in general from a survey about only 32% of them. And that's all I can say about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 04:26 PM
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No. I do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 03:58 PM
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Hmm, this does not square with what i see in life or in relationships. You're entitled to your viewpoint though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 02:39 PM
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I don't think you have refuted anything. Once again, the question was: Do most women want to get married? My argument was, yes they do. Never married women do not speak for all women. That is the flaw in your argument. Let me also point this out,http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/ If you look at the graph on the first page to your left, you'll notice that never married men and women are respectively 23% and 17% of the entire population. My poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 02:29 PM
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I mean I am not white or male, I just feel that the left has gone too far. I also feel that the left sometimes cares more about feelings than making common sense policies to change the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 02:27 PM
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Pretty much. I had a joke about progressives once. progressives always say they are progressing.....but where are they progressing to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 02:25 PM
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thanks. It's frustrating that a lot of us women are now afraid to say what we feel. Once on the web, I was yelled at for saying that for me, menstruation was an important mark of womanhood because not all women have vaginas I am now a republican.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 12:28 PM
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I know I will get murdered for this and possibly have to pick up a new handle, but I am not a fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 12:20 PM
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Actually, looking at your data, I don't agree. When you ask about people who would like to get married someday, the 55% and 50% is from never married people. Why is that a problem? Simple: If out of 100 women, 60 got married and 40 did not. and that 40% said marriage was worthless and they never wanted to be married, then.... would we assume most women don't want marriage? The problem is most women who want marriage will be married, and the women who never married arguably don't like marriage as…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 12:18 PM
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If you want to believe Brad Pitt could have anyone regardless of marriage status, who they are, etc, then more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 11:59 AM
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Not all women in fwb try to lock men down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 03:46 AM
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Maybe, but the overall thrust of the argument was that most women don't want to get married. Perhaps slightly fewer women prefer marriage than men, I do not know. However, most women, by far, want to be married. And that was the argument I was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 03:44 AM
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There are no objective truths, just a multitide of them jockeying for position.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 03:24 AM
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I see differently. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 09:25 PM
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Shouldn't we be asking Op that? He made the absurd statement, he has the burden of proof. "Every moderately attractive girl has a partner count of 12 alphas per month".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 09:25 PM
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When his comments are insane, then yeah, we are going to mock him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 09:23 PM
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Can you clarify that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 09:15 PM
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I don't think so. What you consider a risk vs not all depends on what your values and starting maxims are. And what is an acceptable risk vs not has a lot to do with your thinkibg style and your ideals as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 06:54 PM
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I like everyone else would pick the best of all potential mates available, if both want to commit, are faithful and love me, I'll.pick the intelligent one. Now you: you have 2 girls willing to have sex with you, who will you pick. Hotter or uglier one?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 06:28 PM
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Except women have showed you over and over that it is not what they want. Most women want to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 06:08 PM
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I think you are defining value as what you feel is value and not what a woman thinks. Since we make up half of the sexual market, yeah, our feelings are kind of important. For me, I do not give a rat's ass how high value or astute or whatever a guy claims to be. If he cannot give me kids or marriage, he is worthless to me as a partner and his value to me outside sex is zero. I suspect most rpw feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 06:00 PM
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Because you have none. You don't even know what a matrilineal society is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 01:57 PM
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So how is that different from trp or rpw?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 08:08 PM
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I was banned for rpw for dissenting. So yeah, that day has come.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 08:07 PM
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Surely not, but we have changed what a lot of parents teach their kids on race. Just because a section of the population is racist does not mean the underlying beliefs, structures, ideas have not changed in society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:37 PM
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I think considering all the change we have seen since the 60s that is debatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:18 PM
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I don't think so, more and more men have been coming out with their stories of rapr and the shame and misery they feel seems to match the feelings women report when they are raped. There was definitively some ideas about how women were devalued by rape maybe pre 1960s and 1970s. But those are not at the core of why rape is bad or a crime. Lesbians can be raped, and they are not interestes in attracting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:07 PM
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Pem, you can't even debate other people, like no offense, but most people sigh and put their hands up when you willfully misunderstand simple concepts and misuse logic. At this point I mean, who really wants to debate you in blue pill? I think i might be one of the few.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:43 PM
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I think the point i am trying to make is if rape's damage is all about a woman's sexuality and her ability to gain attention from men, then we shouldn't see rape of men as a crime. It is. I think moreover, we shouldn't see raping an unattractive girl as a crime, but it is a crime. So what I am getting at is "rape" is something damaging not because of sexuality or attention from men or whatever but something deeper and more internal/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:42 PM
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ok. we're cool then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:40 PM
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http://pdfsr.com/pdf/the-effects-of-premarital-sexual-promiscuity-on-subsequent-marital Check page 5 and there is a lot of data showing that men and women are judging the opposite sex for having tons of partners. namely: here:http://www.jstor.org/stable/3813720?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:39 PM
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It doesn't make you less valuable as a woman, what does that even mean? valuable as a partner?--- that is in the eye of the beholder We're not going to agree anyway, so let's just leave it here. Then why are you even here? isn't this PPD, lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:33 PM
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You haven't explained why my analogy is faulty and yeah, asdf quit because you refuse to see logic. Sex does not make me less of a person, just like being stolen from does not make me less of a person. Doesn't mean everyone should steal from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:31 PM
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Men also get raped out of prison too and their rapists are prosecuted. Maybe, prison was not the best example. People don't care about those raped in prison because they are seen as bad people who get their just deserts. But as I said, rape is not specific to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:29 PM
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I don't know you seemed salty when you said, "I'd literally laugh at any woman that found my sexual past to be an issue." But whatever. As long as you held yourself to the same standards as you hold others then cool. My PIV is lower than yours, so that plus your age would disqualify you for me. As long as you're ok with me making that judgement, I support you making yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:27 PM
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No it is not. You are wrong, as she has stated and your logic is faulty. You are confusing devalue with "lack of value" and my analogy works fine,much thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:24 PM
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I think there is still a societal stigma by red pill types and men too that exist. and that societal stigma also affects women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:20 PM
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No. You can "not" put things on a pedestal and still have them be important.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:19 PM
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Why are you getting salty? Like I said, women have the right to judge you too on your sex past. For me, if I met you and learned you held red pill beliefs, I would probably judge you as not being a good match. And that's an ok decision to make. And women can judge you for having too little sex too, maybe she doesn't want a virgin. Stop getting angry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:10 PM
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Except there is science to show that those statements are not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:08 PM
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Pair bonding exists, you just are not able to think abstractly about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:07 PM
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So when she orgasms after masturbation, she's bonded to her dildo?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:06 PM
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That's not what she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:05 PM
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And it's true of many other women. I feel differently about sex, but just because I have a viewpoint doesn't preclude another viewpoint from being equally as true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:05 PM
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Women can love people when they don't even have sex with them. Crazy!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:04 PM
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Meh, I'd break with the blue pill and say I would want to know a guy's past. That doesn't mean I want to stigmatize people with unrestricted sociosexuality though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:01 PM
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Whatever. But women can hold you to the same standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:00 PM
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It means different things to different people. For some people it's a fun handshake, for me, it's a person sacred thing. that said, I don't think women who chose to have lots of sex lose in value, different choices are different choices, it is a free country.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:59 PM
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A prime expression of a woman's power is her expression of her sexuality in all its various forms. How she chooses to display her body. Her ability to gain attention from men. Her ability to use that attention and power to get things for herself, whether that be material goods, societal status, favors/services, and other benefits. Her ability to get sex pretty much whenever she wants it, however she wants it, from men of her sole choosing. And this really is her primary power, even in today's fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:58 PM
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It's the question of bodily sovereignty. DO you not have a right to your own body? Is your body not more intimate to you than a pair of video games?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:56 PM
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So what if she doesn't want to fuck him? She's not losing any value, so what's the big deal? You need to get out of the value judgement. What about her feelings too? She's not happy because she is forced to do something she doesn't want to and she doesn't enjoy it. And having a lot of sex, does not cause a loss of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:55 PM
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She's right. Your logic is faulty. I have 25 dollars in my pocket that I want to give away to a good cause. Someone pulls a gun to my head when I am walking to my charity and steals the 25 dollars. By your logic, I didn't "lose" money since I was going to give it away anyhow, does that mean what the thief did is not a crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:53 PM
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The Blue pill position is not that sex doesn't mean anything. So why don't you start from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:51 PM
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Why don't you ask a rape victim so you can find out?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:29 PM
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Can I sneak into your room in the middle of the night? Hold a gun to your head and then tell my 6"2 to stick his dick in your butt without lube? (Rhetorical question not a threat). If I do so should I just pay a fine because that will compensate you for the bad experience? Your analogy is really terrible, I suggest you rewrite it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:28 PM
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Reported again. With any luck you'll actually get banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 01:06 PM
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It doesn't take long to find it on the internet. This is common knowledge in the scientific commmunity. Considering you never cited a source, why don't you try it first and I will follow. No point throwing pearls after swine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 01:05 PM
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twisting intensifies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:47 AM
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duly reported for breaching civility
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:44 AM
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And even in wolves, the female and male work in a team to seamlessly hunt down the food for the pack, if you don't believe me, watch the documentary on the druid pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:43 AM
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Nature is a bit different now that we have modern society and are not getting chased by saber tooth tigers any more. Moreover, it is arguably right that nature never meant for women to be "graceful, nurturing and supportive and all that bullshit", that is in fact culture. Their are evolutionary studies that show that a man's preference for thin, "decorative" women has a lot to do with whether he expects the woman to contribute to taking care of the family. In countries where women and men must s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:42 AM
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Actually the exact opposite is true, scientific studies of matrilineal and patrilineal societies show that when men get power they are less likely to invest in the family or community and when women get power they are more likely to invest in the family and community and therefore lead to the betterment of the entire group. Sorry to RIP on your parade, just meh science coming in. Mom's in a great career, and is teaching me how to follow in her footsteps. I really just think you haven't met that …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:40 AM
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Except your site marked him an Endorsed Contributer and said "no one can disagree with him".... so yeah.... Rp's again, twisting themselves into pretzels for the win.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:37 AM
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Rp doesn't believe 90% of humans exist. Their strict adherance to outdated rules and well, the lack of scientific logic behind their ideas is why I don't find them applicable to my life or well most women's except in the most superficial manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:36 AM
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Teach me more, Senji. No, but actually, I'm always in special awe of alpha women. I've seen a few in my life, really awesome women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:33 AM
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You know what, you're right. Says no homo while railing a dude's succulent asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:08 AM
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You know saying "no homo" doesn't make it not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 09:53 PM
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god me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 02:45 PM
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Sorry, I meant /u/Koffing, not you. In my defense, it was late.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 02:29 PM
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All you need to do is reread the original post love. I
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 02:28 PM
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"You can point out hypocrisy without being so inflammatory. It immediately puts people on the defensive, and would just as likely cause RPW who read it to double down, IMO." Ok, that's very fair. I was just angry because if I had known that when I was a RPW or whatever, i would have realized the error of my ways faster. If I knew the lead moderators i was supposed to look up to weren't even really doing RPW then I would have probably had a "d'oh" moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:21 AM
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thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:16 AM
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LOLLLLL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:16 AM
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Nope. I used to be a RPW so that's how I know all this. Other RPW's have been messaging me on the sly too, telling me they agree with me. I hope one of them can stand up to Tempest and wingnut one day, most of them are afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:15 AM
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because you asked for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:13 AM
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ahh, I see. It wasn't about taking them down. it's about the ideology they signify. Indubitably, I don't like them, but what I find reprehensible is that they claim to be RPW but never practice what they preach. By exposing their inconsistencies, I hope to show others why RPW is not only wrong but completely self contradictory in itself. that's why i asked the mods to sticky it. if it was just an attack thread I would not have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:11 AM
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they were not personal attacks, everything I said was true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:09 AM
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We do both. Actually. and we're split on how our subreddit should go. I happen to be one of those who thinks we have a duty to warn people away from ruining their lives through RPW.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:08 AM
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I am part of TBP, so yeah, you were asking me, the flair literally says "Question for the blue pill". jeez, Rpers will hamster out of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:06 AM
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Yet you make an entire thread on how your fee fees were hurt by my comments? Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:05 AM
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I have a question, why do you see the post as amoral? Everything I said was true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:05 AM
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I am a BP here, so shouldn't you also be asking me? Also, I resent you calling my post witch-hunting, Everything I said was true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:51 AM
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I have no idea why or if they took it down, I'll ask them myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:46 AM
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because it wasn't an attack. attacks are unfounded, what i said was 100% the truth. I used to be a RPW. I know this. The RPW are 100% unqualified to be giving advice. Neither Tempest or wingnut have children. They don't. Ask them if you want for me. Wingnut spent a lot of time, not having very chaste encounters, she was not a virgin before marriage. Again ask her whether she was. I am not lying. I am a virgin. Wingnut is not and she was not at my age. She should step down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:43 AM
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No it's still there. Thank Goodness, I'd be pretty mad if it was not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:41 AM
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90% of it is parody, and PEmBayliss, don't you have kids to feed?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:40 AM
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Except my post was about RPW, which was specifically for me and written by women. i tried it. it was damaging. I found other women who feel the same eh. I've evolved to the point that TRP doesn't make me that angry any more, but those lying mods on RPW make my blood boil.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:40 AM
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lel. You might want to check your entire subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:38 AM
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You don't have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:38 AM
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It was not a mean post. It was 100% true,
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:36 AM
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It would be pretty clear what the event is if you were a regular user of BP, but you're not, so I think we deserve the benefit of the doubt. secondly, RPW have and do come over to TBP to argue and defend themselves. Finally, you are forgetting this all started with this https://np.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/4bclzu/i_need_help_coping_with_my_husband_being_a_new/?sort=top Here's where Tempest T Cup called us, we were not there and we are not even allowed to post on TBP. And they have an RP…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:36 AM
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Your entire post was "hey Bpers, why is this here?" Wouldn't it be smart to ask the person who made the post? Or is your intent not to learn anything, but just to fell good or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:31 AM
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If you want to ask me any questions, I am here, take a swing. But if you are confused about the origin or reason about a post, isn't kind of stupid not to ask the person who made the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:30 AM
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I stand by my post dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:53 AM
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It was in response to RPW who called us out. Their statement said we were "brigading RPW" - We were not. and not only that Tempest T cup accused us all of "trying to get a woman to have two kids by two different fathers. If tempest T cup wants to respond on TBP, she is 100% free too. I, on the other hand, am banned from RPW or whatever. Please get your facts straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:52 AM
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Hello, I am wondering whether and I 100% stand behind everything I said there. If you are interested in why, please ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:49 AM
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I think, considering RP talks a lot about how women are less virtuous, less worthy of trust and all that, TRP needs to stop pretending they don't care about morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:49 AM
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Hello, it sems you guys have called on me, how sad, deqr atlas that you never tagged me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:37 AM
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It's kind of like group think, right? Everyone has ( while not the same ideas), gradations of similar ideas. It is really good and worthwhile to have people with completely different ideas and opinions attack you, people from different walks of life question you and argue with people you have little in common with. it makes you a better team. I read a really interesting study at google, which talked about how the best teams work. one of the things they found out, is that when people who are diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 01:34 AM
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I agree, no doubt since I lean blue my comment will never be upvoted ( another one of the problems on this sub), but yeah OP you are right. If you'd like I will share my reasons that I left and didn't come back really. 1) as a BPer, it is tough to argue here because you are always outnumbered. Your posts are downvoted to oblivion and almost no one sees them. but even when you do argue, when i made posts i would end up having 8 or 9 people argue with me until 3 am or 4 am at night. I don't have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 12:14 AM
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I would say it is not as worthwhile as red pill ideas actually getting challenged. But I think most BPers have voted with their feet, and very few are here anymore. So to me that shows the value of PPD for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 12:02 AM
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Then we have to apply the same agnostic standard to red pill teachings. Do we know if when red pillers say girls respond to them, whether girls actually do? Or whether red pill has made their marriages more happy? Agnosticism cuts both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 06:10 PM
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"Hey, you have a field of study that I know nothing about. Therefore you should take my word on that field, even when I give you no reason why you should accept my expertise." Wouldn't it make more sense for you to say "You're in law school, therefore I'll adjust my conception of the burden of proof" ? Unfortunately being in law school doesn't make you anything less of an idiot. And you clearly know nothing about abortions
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 02:19 AM
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We have cheap, safe, widely available and effective birth control Let's pretend this is true. Why can't a guy wrap it up if he doesn't want to pay child support? Condoms exist. It's a complex situation, not given to facile and simple answers. You cannot just dismiss men's concerns here. It's nuanced. that's probably the only thing we can agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 02:16 AM
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except that often abortions save lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 02:13 AM
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How would you even do that? Follow someone around into all of their most inner times to be sure they are truly happy? That is quite silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 02:12 AM
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lmost nobody is killed by abortion clinic shootings 3 people is not nobody. Looking back, I'm not seeing any evidence that women with wanted pregnancies were targeted in the sources I linked to. You linked to a study that said a lot of women hold pro-choice views. FIne. But you forgot that the women who end up with unintended pregnancies or have abortions may have different values and ideas than the rest of the population, just like women who live in a small farm in the south have different idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 06:35 AM
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Wait, hold on. I pointed out women who were denied abortions were more likely to be in poverty, assuming you're against poverty and believe women are humans you have to admit women being denied abortions is the same or worse as men paying child support. Oh look, a tiny ass ass number. how many men are in dire poverty solely due to child support? Is it even up to 4k? lel. Seriously, what the hell's with aborters and driving? Yeah your day is shot. Big whoop. I know you're a trust fund baby and ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 06:16 AM
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Also another interesting article http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/08/16/2479431/low-income-women-denied-abortion/ nearly 6/10 women from the turnaway study could not get abortions b/c of costs and driving since 80% of counties don't have an abortion provider. That works out to 4,000 women each year who are denies abortions. lel. Is that insignificant or something? Next, oh, women who were denied abortions are 2-3 times more likely to end up under the federal poverty line. So....child support…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 05:51 AM
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Because Cis knows all about abortions from the "family convos around the dinner table" lel. Fact:In the U.S., 87 percent of counties have no abortion provider at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 05:42 AM
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Wow. and you're a bigot too. Winning all the awards Cis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 05:42 AM
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News doesn't report many deaths from shootings of abortion clinics. It just reports the shit out of a very small number of deaths. My reference was to the recent Colorado shooting of women at planned parenthood. Which is why i suspect you don't read the news. Two way street; have you been homeless for decades? No, have You? Or did you just talk to one homeless guy and "feel" like you understood what it meant to be homeless? because I have talked with and worked with a lot of homeless people and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 05:39 AM
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Pem, you cannot have it both ways. You can't have men having tons of access to sex and no responsibilities towards women whom they actually impregnate unless you support abortion. If you do not, you must support child support. Pick one or the other, but it can't be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 05:23 AM
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Almost nobody anywhere gets shot outside of an abortion clinic. Interesting, I assume you don't watch the news have you dealt with any of the rest of the things I said? Waiting. I'm talking about decades of homelessness, which happens to far more men than get shot outside of an abortion clinic, and is somewhat lethal itself. Please show me that homelessness is more related to CHILD Support than mental illness. I know a decent amount since I come from from a blue pill family that raised me to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 03:57 AM
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WHERE CIS? You haven't been able to articulate, perhaps b/c you DON"T KNOW. What abortion clinic, you mean the ones I have to drive 50 miles to get to? The only one in TExas? Where I have to wade through hordes of protesters and possibly get shot? Where I have to undergo a forced waiting period and can barely get in cause the times are all booked out? Which one? You mean the one the state is trying to close down in TExas? You mean where I have to see a sonogram or I cannot have an abortion? What…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 03:43 AM
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Just because a worse problem exists doesn't mean you can't have sympathy for a lesser problem. There is only so much energy, time, resources and really emotional reserve in the world. Compassion and attention from the public is not an infinite resource and we make these cost comparisons every day all the time, why should a "dead bedroom" require more compassion that any thing else in society? Why does it deserve mine or anyone else's sympathy or time?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 02:32 AM
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Why don't you go advocate for them instead of crying over western women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 01:48 AM
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Holocaust is over, black men are still getting shot. Next?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 05:08 PM
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Yeah they are. You states, women have "tingles" when you do this. Hearsay. No one knows what is going on in a woman's mind. Man says: My wife loves me more than ever since I started MRP. Hearsay: No one knows if his wife even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 07:44 PM
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You're right of course, your dick not getting sucked is more important than black men getting shot. Sure it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 05:57 AM
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How do you know that? And by that argument then all of TRP's claims are demonstrably false, they don't have access to women's or men's minds either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 05:57 AM
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Nope. I'm putting the claim in it's proper context of men's problems. Don't you care about all men's problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 10:13 PM
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All women in abusive relationships really want to be there? Pem, is that supposed to be better?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 10:13 PM
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Checkmate GridRexx, well played.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 10:11 PM
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You can't see how speculations about a place you've seen are more grounded in proof than speculations about something you've never seen?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 10:09 PM
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Pem, you've never debated using ideas in your life. And I never called you a racist, you just imagined it. As usual. Thin skinned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 10:08 PM
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Only when RP do it right? Let the butthurt flow through you , PEm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 10:02 PM
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Uh, I think that would be you, not me, Since you are against answering questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 10:01 PM
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Oh, Pem, poor Pem, so thin skinned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 10:01 PM
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I don't think your speculations are on the same level. She's more correct than you. Let's not pretend that all bad marriages are completely unknowable or unseeable by friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:59 PM
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There are better ways to convey this. And really keeping a dollar for sex, that is putting a price tag on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:59 PM
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Black men dying at the hands of police are men's problems. And yeah, I'm more worried about the idea of dying that not getting pussy, aren't you? I thought you actually cared about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:58 PM
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Nope, I never called you a racist. I just said I knew people like you. If it wasn't women, it would be minorities.or whatever. . You should be ashamed of your making fun of men posting at Deadbedrooms about their sexless marriages. It's disgusting. Ok, Pem, want to go at it? Let's see. Every woman I've ever seen who is with an abuser or a cheat is a woman who wanted to be there. She puts up with his shit because he is attractive and she likes the way he fucks her. There are at least 3 other men …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:57 PM
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What I am saying is she is simply offering an image of certain relationships from the outside as evidence that they are good relationships and our contra what TRP says. I think she knows them more over the ten years or more so of their life than you do. So If she says they don't fit the RP narrative, she is probably more right than you are. is that these relationships aren't actually going as TRP would predict in private then I have that they are going that way in private. Private is different f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:47 PM
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No, it's not about treating his wife as a "one dollar prostitute" (you don't provide a prostitute with emotional intimacy, have kids with her, and pool your assets with her). It isn't about putting a price tag on a single sexual act. It's about conveying the idea that something is amiss in your relationship. You can do that by conversation. You can do that by saying you will walk. There is no need to put a price on emotional or physical intimacy. It demeans it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:41 PM
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Except when you/your RP friends have fun tell us BPers that our "experiences aren't real" and we don't know the real truth whenever our lives counteract the RP narrative. Come on Pem, admit it, you don't believe in responsibility for men or Rpers especially. Your life is to cry about how all your failures were caused by women. I know your type. I went to school with some of you. Lazy brats who didn't do their work on time, failed their SATS, took stupid shit classes and wondered why even our loc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:40 PM
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because if you do, it will reveal how few choices men have in the reproductive process, and it would be terribly inconvenient to your dogma. Uhhhh. No. I wanted your answer because I want to see where our discussion starts from, if you believe men have no responsibilities then arguing with you is a waste of time because you're a blind fool. If you believe men have some then we can start a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:37 PM
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Of course you need to resort to being obtuse and strawmanning. You've been dodging my questions and refuse to tell me what responsibilities you believe men have for coitus. When you want to actually debate then call me, if you want to run away from questions like an 8 year old then I got better shit to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:26 PM
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Pem, I don't think you've ever taken responsibility for anything in your life. Do you even know what it means?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:18 PM
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Tfw I agree with tgp on one thing. I have to go cleanse myself now. It's pretty disgusting to me. Well played, TGP, well played.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:17 PM
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You are being hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:15 PM
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unfortunately, according to reports personal vibrators are better. i have lots of buds who said they never got one orgasm from a guy. and i was like shiiit, that's why I a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:14 PM
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lol. Pem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:12 PM
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Generally we don't take part in crazy cults that make us disgusting to the opposite sex, so yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:12 PM
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They aren't. Trp doesn't deny that any of these relationships EXIST, they make the claim they are suboptimal relationships for men in general, due to sex, respect, and hypergamy issues. You've failed to prove they are not. You're no different from someone who insists evolution didn't happen. Unless you have EVIDENCE Atlas, your opinion is just that, an opinion. So tell me more about how pandas REALLY caused 9/11. I'm waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:05 PM
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I think I already addressed this. before you start with the whole.... but you support feminists "silly problems"... no, I often don't. So there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:03 PM
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I happen to think that both partners in a marriage should make an effort to make sure each one is satisfied. That said, that is not what joseremarque said. He stated. Man withholds kind treatment for lack of sex this is exactly the kind of RP thinking that made me really really sick when I was in it. At the height, I believed that to get any kindness from men, I needed to have sex. Your kindness in a marriage should not be based on sex. Just like sex should not be based in how much your partner …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:02 PM
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Me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 08:56 PM
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So you don't believe men have ANY responsibility for ANY decisions, because women have what you call "the final say" - which is incredibly debatable. if this is true, then I guess we are raping men since they have so little agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 08:54 PM
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As far as other red pillers told me, awalt is heuristic, a model that fits 60% of the cases. If you don't like it, then complain to them. Unless you've got some authority on all red pill more than others
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 08:52 PM
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eh, I've seen evidence that the more attractive you are the less likely you have casual sex. too tired to look up a study now though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:21 AM
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Can confirm. was really angry and bitter as a rpw, still working on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:20 AM
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it's actually common if they watch too much porn and have the "grip" of death.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:18 AM
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She was being sarcastic Ben.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:17 AM
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well, here in TPP, we call it a heuristic, can't you see? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:16 AM
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and the newspeak goes on.....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:14 AM
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haha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:13 AM
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And data also agrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:12 AM
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No.... you're kidding? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:12 AM
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And they know more about your friends/life than you do.h
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:11 AM
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If I was alone with any of these men and gave them a truth serum, would they tell me they got the quality and quantity of sex they wanted and we're treated with the respect they desired? I don't know? do you? If I was an alien from Mars and I was given one chance to see Earth or die would I take it? You are dealing in hypotheticals and cannot possibly know more about her relationships than she does. So unless you can prove your unfounded statements with eye witness experience then your probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:10 AM
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They do so all the time,
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:08 AM
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1) this has nothing to do with the thread, it never asked RP to come and disagree with all of our stories. 2) You are making statements you cannot corrorborate about people you don't know. 3) you are one of the reasons this subs sucks so much, by not sticking to the rules of the agreed post. Dick picks of gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:08 AM
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Do you think your statements are something to be proud of Pem? Everytime I ask you a question, you ignore it and try to move on as if hoping I would forget your glaring issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:05 AM
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and I don't think it has anything to do with bedroom. Don't know though. virgin here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:02 AM
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there is no wall. and that depends on your standards. There are some non negotiables such as a man who is sane, healthy, not abusive that you cannot lower otherwise I agree with damask.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:59 AM
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Pem, it is relevant. You don't have a leg to stand on. And you need to be exposed for the hypocrite you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:58 AM
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I didn't invoke Hitler first , it was the poster above me and PEM.... WHY don't you go address any of the other points I have made? Did or did you not say you feel no pity for women in abusive relationships? Answer the question Pem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:50 AM
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divorced dads are single dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:49 AM
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Does seeing that RP marriages can work and seeing RPers happy deliver a similar blow to the BP in your m not really. RP makes claims that are universalist in bent. All women act like this --- or according to their "heuristics" most do. If via TBP and true like I find that to be false, then why go for RP when BPers are so happy? If it ain't broke don't fix it. Rp claims that our dominant paradigm of relationships is either wrong or not working for most people. but if I see Bpers happy and see tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:47 AM
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What? TBP's disdain? haven't several commentators explained it above? What about a better question...why out of all the problems in the world does he specially deserve my sympathy? A black boy who is one year older than my brother was shot in cold blood in Chicago and the footage was released today, please explain how this guys problems are worse than that and why he deserves sympathy more than others? before you start with the whole.... but you support feminists "silly problems"... no, I often …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:43 AM
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I guess two wrongs really do make a right in your world. No it doesn't, but I think it would be ridiculous not to expose Pem as a hypocrite. He doesn't really have a moral leg to stand on in this race. He has stated that all women deserve to be in abusive relationships, if you'd like evidence, i can find the proof for you, so It's a bit like the plot calling the kettle black. Imagine Hitler rebuking Stalin for his depravity, that's kind of like Pem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:41 AM
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I think he is a hypocrite himself. Here are some of his statements. 1) on sluts:Be that as it may, sluts tend to be shitty women and poor risks for commitment. Not much you can say to counteract that, sweetie. 2)on women:They act respectable, polite and dignified. They're playacting, fronting. It's not real. Get them behind closed doors and you'll find out just how disrespectful, rude, unrefined and downright cunty they can be. Women manipulate all the time. Women are masters at manipulation. 3.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:38 AM
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So I should expect kind treatment by men based on how much sex I have with them? In that case, Should I expect all men to be assholes unless I take my clothes off?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:37 AM
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uhhh. no you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:35 AM
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Uhhh, unlike the reds who absolutely never ever admit they are wrong and anytime you tell them they have hurt someone they claim "amorality"? Rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:45 AM
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Uh, I thought you always believed we were ebil and wrong and needed to kneel down before the red sword of light or something. But thanks for acknowledging we are the better people. I knee you had it in you to see the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:43 AM
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Oh,no Pem, I think you great future as an actor or something. Better quit your day job.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:42 AM
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Women are allowed to say no to sex. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:41 AM
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Uh considering that RP goes out of it's way to poke fun at girl who are in pain, hurting, have been raped or else, I'm not particularly giving much of s hit. And he doesn't seem to be hurting that much either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:40 AM
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Are you SERIOUSLY CRYING about TBP being "mean"? You're fucking kidding me right? Oh my god.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:39 AM
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I think it was good advice and not cruelty. Some posters here have seen me be cruel and well that is not it. If you can't handle that small pinprick of reality, well then the RP probably should move to MARS considering I can go to RP's front page and find at least one article that could cause a mentally unstable young woman to slit her wrist on any given day. Grow a skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:38 AM
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TRp describes single mothers as the scum of the earth Pem Bayliss says" That's okay and not cruel at all" BP states men shouldn't reward sex with money Pem Bayliss "THAT's SO HATEFUL!!!!!" Welcome to RP, let the butthurt flow through you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:37 AM
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1) many people do. If not cuteness, attractiveness, if not attractiveness, whiteness, if not that then they may have a family friend who helps them get discounts. Would you call all of that classless too? 2) I'm not taking something away by force, it is given. I am not whipping my hair and with the power of my magnetic gaze making guys give me discounts , shit, I wish it worked like that. The man is a free agent who chooses to give the discount. The only one doing the taking is the employee who …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 11:14 PM
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hat still doesn't tell us anything about whether stepmothers become stepmonsters. Nope. That's not what I said, I'm glad we can agree, based on all the evidence at hand ( and ever written or created) that men are more likely to remarry in the USA. Good. And point 2) We can agree that stepmoms are more likely to be abusive than regular moms. Therefore if we accept one and two, men are exposing their kids to more stepmoms, increasing the liklihood that they will expose their kids to abusive steppa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 11:10 PM
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Um, you also conveniently ignored the whole article and took that statement out context. Let's try again. "Nevertheless, all available evidence indicates that excess risk from stepmothers (relative to genetic mothers) is roughly on the same order as excess risk from stepfathers (relative to genetic fathers)." Are all stepmothers bad? No. I NEVER STATED THAT. Are stepmothers more liklely to be bad than genetic mothers? YES So if dads are remarrying and stepmothers are likely to be worse than gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 11:07 PM
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It's still more likely Pem. I think your probably should admit that I'm correct about that part. And if we accept all my other statements as true, then yeah when I say Men are doing that well at being single fathers either. We'll have to agree to let that stand. That's how debate works, both of us present our facts and use them to support our overall argument, and if the other person cannot successfully refute that argument then the person with the best argument wins. Have a good day Pem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 11:02 PM
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cute animal farm reference, but no, that's not it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 10:58 PM
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Cool. but then unless you can support your view with more than "oh, look, people are asked whether they were married or not". We're all going to discount your statements entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 10:57 PM
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Lol. expecting red pillers to do research. Yeah, I can only dream of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 10:55 PM
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if you're actually using cuteness to get discounts. That involves taking away from someone / something else financially and potentially getting someone fired. Not really. I mean the guy can choose to ignore it and sometimes he does. I'm not forcing him to get fired. On top of it,as I said, my cuteness doesn't work on everyone, in fact it works on very few people, so it's not that big of a deal. but most people don't use their cuteness to get discounts. Women use their attractiveness to get disco…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 10:54 PM
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um, I kind of asked you that. And you've never replied. Do you believe a man has no responsibility for child birth. It is a yes or no question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 10:46 PM
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As of 2013, men are more likely to remarry:http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/11/14/chapter-2-the-demographics-of-remarriage/ See pew trends, 3rd figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:43 PM
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Note, I just updated it on stats about how dangerous stepmothers are, see my original post. If you want more recent data about male remarriage I can find that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:39 PM
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Sure here's another stat using us census bureau: refer to pages 6 and 8 please: https://www.census.gov/hhes/socdemo/marriage/data/sipp/us-remarriage-poster.pdf Here's is the risk from stepparents: I'd refer you to page 6 of this document. Here's is the source:http://www.cep.ucsb.edu/buller/cinderella%20effect%20facts.pdf In that paragraph it says:rs. Can we infer that excess risk is a feature only of stepfather homes and not stepmother homes? The answer is no. The reason why stepmothers are ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:34 PM
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Ehh, Sure legal responsibility is one, but I think we can all agree that parenthood goes beyond legal responsibility and some things are correct within the letter of the law but not societally accepted. I mean for example, you can kick your kid out at 18. But most parents allow the kid to finish HS or and help with college. By the sense I get from your reading, as soon as kid turns 18, you become as distant to him/her as a stranger. I don't really think that is a full encapsulation of responsibi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:31 PM
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Ahh thanks. hehe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:29 PM
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but if you're using your "cuteness" to get discounts that is really classless, I don't really think so. I don't understand why it's any more or less classless than guys using a deep voice to impress a crowd or a guy using his bulk./weight to intimidate a guy who wants to start a fight. Not sure if it works for chicks but doing neck workouts and breathing from your diaphragm makes a big difference if you want a low pitch voice. I'm actually lucky in that my voice is middling and I can pitch it bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:28 PM
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No it doesn't at all. See my post above. The US census groups single as a large category that encompasses divorced, never married and widowed. And once again your passage did not prove t proves I'm right about single meaning "never married", At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:26 PM
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Show me stats that prove it and I'll be more likely to believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:24 PM
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Uhhh, HOLD ON, One second. YOUR COMMENT LATER IN THE THREAD: "There are a few single moms whose men or husbands did screw them over. A few. Not most, or even many. So epxlain to me why your ideas/ examples/ feelings are more useful or valid than mine. I can back with stats the idea that men are more likely to remarry and they even want to remarry more. http://time.com/3584827/pew-marriage-divorce-remarriage/ And do I need to point out that step parents usually don't treat the kids well? I'm wait…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:23 PM
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I was being a bit sarcastic. sorry. it doesn't translate well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:20 PM
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That seems like a real desire to shift responsibility. What, in your opinion, ought men to take responsibility for in childbirth? Or is none of it their fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:18 PM
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This is also true. BC is not 100% effective and even now, many kids were born due to a bC defect, in a headline law case making the news. wonder if RP would shame those women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:16 PM
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Well, more and more she won't have access to an abortion. States are passing more and more restrictive abortion laws especially in TExas, I figure we should at least throw that card out there since everyone seems to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:15 PM
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Controlling for education and money, honestly men don't do a lot better. Especially since men are more likely to remarry, then that really screws the kids up . I knew a man whose wife died, he remarried an awful stepmom, kids starved. And he did nothing, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:14 PM
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How would she know his number or where he lived?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:11 PM
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I don't think the situations are comparable. I mean we generally believe that if you have a kid, you have a responsibility to that kid. Madonna has no responsibility to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:11 PM
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ehh, but there's precious little debate done here. mostly arguing and unfounded statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:10 PM
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Maybe cause you're a feminist strawwomanTM
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:09 PM
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uhhh. Any why should anyone believe your estimate is any more correct than anyone else? Why are you so arrogant?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:08 PM
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Well, men also tank their marriages for stupid reasons: see cheating, which a lot of red pillers in the mrp forum do. So, in that case, yeah a man chose a bad outcome for his family.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:07 PM
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Uh, that doesn't prove that single mothers cannot be both never married/widowed/divorced/separated. In fact, that passage never deals with how to label or confer single status. Moreover: when I did look up single moms on the US census, it stated that grouped mom as single if they had a baby and were unmarried, single , or divorced. So I doubt the US census uses your defintion either. Come on..... That doesn't prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 08:51 PM
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Eh, I mean that[s not entirely true, at least not now or in recent years as far as I have seen. Generally as anarchkitty has stated they grouped single into single-never married and single previously divorced but all were still single mothers. Here an article from PRB (population resource bureau) that supports my point. http://www.prb.org/pdf10/single-motherfamilies.pdf If you look at page 1, 5th paragraph, you'll notice that they talk about both never married and prev divorced mothers as single…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 08:49 PM
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uhh. Hold on, what dictionary are we getting our definitions from now. What does crazy mean in that dictionary or "moving the goalposts"? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 08:40 PM
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Well, considering that the split here is 70% red to 30% blue, maybe you should upvote more blue posts so we can have an actual debate. But no, don't let me stop you from circlejerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 08:38 PM
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Maybe her mom and dad were actually aliens from the planet Zorg sent to take over the universe too!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 08:37 PM
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most chicks don't go flashing their tits to get a discount lol. Wait. Whut? That's not what I meant by using my cuteness. What I meant is that I notice that whenever I'm around guys, I sometimes pitch my voice higher, laugh more and give a big smile. Sometimes I can get away with puppy dog eyes too. That's it. not flashing my tits,jeez we're not at an x-rated porno here. Then an hour later when the line was absolutely stacked (say 50 people) a girl came and stood behind me. The lady behind her d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 08:27 PM
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I mean of course we do. What is being a young cutish girl useful for: Note, being cute depends on the room, the guy you are hanging out with and how tall you are. If I wanted to be 1000% honest, I would say: Cuteness: with the right guy ( my appeal is very specific and really only sometimes), gets umbrellas held over my head when the rain is pouring, a hand with my books sometimes, a door held open for me, and a $1 discount at the vendor, a pass when I make controversial opinions What cuteness d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 04:30 AM
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Imagine if during something as dangerous as a life threatening scenario, or as important as a business meeting, a red pill man were allowed to simply go silent and fail to react until they are more comfortable. uhhhh. What? Are you okay? I know a good head doc you can see for your schizophrenia.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 04:21 AM
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Well, what can I say.... we have cookies! and long lasting happy relationships, that too! I can honestly say that seeing that BP marriages can work and seeing BPers happy was the biggest blow to the RP in my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 04:19 AM
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More than that, in the original days, before video gaming was marketed solely to guys in order to increase branding, girls used to play a whole lot too. and video games were more gender neutral. Thw whole concept of video games as a "boy/manly" thing is kind of an invented ad myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 06:54 PM
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Me too. I've loved fantasy since I was seven. It never occurred to me t that it was "nerd culture" or that I was taking it from men. I've never gamed because we weren't allowed to have videogames in our house unfortunately. I wanted pokemon cards in the old days but my parents couldn't afford frivolities when I was growing up. This is deeply insulting and well...wrong/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 06:53 PM
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uhhhhh. What do you think of this analysis of the recent interest women have taken with nerd culture? What analysis?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 06:51 PM
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I do believe that male lawyers would be willing to marry someone of significantly lower social status if they were really attracted to her physically. I don't think so. It's an interesting thing, but when you look at men in the 1950s list of what they wanted in a women- they listed more stuff about compatibility, financial stability and ecetera. In contrast, more women are also marrying down. I don't think it's biological, as much as societally induced.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:36 PM
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Thanks for putting into words what I have been struggling to articulate. Saying women are incapable of intellectual development after 18 or critically engaging with the world is not much different from saying "I hate women". You're saying that women are lesser beings who cannot think, analyze or control themselves. And it's simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 04:20 PM
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Moreover, since there's been a shift in opportunities for men and women due to the sexual revolution, men are also not dating down as much as they once were. The new normal is a marriage of two equally educated partners who provide their kids with a double income. Or parents who switch btw caretaker roles and breadwinner as the market demands. SO much nuance that TRP is missing. The average lawyer doesn't want to marry a janitor either. Sure, he'lll fuck her; but marry her? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 04:18 PM
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Because I've been happy to talk to you about it whilst you have been interesting, swapping POV. There hasn't been much of a debate, b/c with a few concessions you've been unwilling to believe RP is wrong. You have this idea , "it worked for me, it worked for a few guys I know, IT MUST BE RIGHT". I did read RPW and a lof of influential bloggers like Sunshine Mary, your probably don't know her, she was kind of before your time and it also hurt me a lot. Hell! Half of this has been a rant about how…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 05:45 PM
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I mean, you're the one who copied me , so... I guess you're a second grader.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 05:11 PM
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RP is there for the people that want it, and you don't want it. And only 15 posts to get you to accept this point instead of banging your head against a wall. I guess I'll call that a success. But don't fuck yourself over by just blindly rejecting real life changes just because RP is among those that notice them. At the point that RP left me, I think living in a cave is probably better than RP. remember, TGP, YOU guys DID this. I went to YOU first (RP) and when I tried to accept your teachings, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 08:14 PM
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it's a view a lot of women need do not need to hear. Her brain is crazy and she definitively isn't really helping. There is a reason there aren't too many RPW subscribers and it probably has a lot to do with them not giving useful actionable advice. Susan's girl game is a whole lot more helpful for young girls, wingnut is just.... well a nut. No it isn't, because by the way you are talking here I can tell you don't have a great handle on this. That's fine, but I won't be told to shut up because …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 07:52 PM
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Well, since you copied me, I guess I am the creative one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 07:48 PM
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The RP standards are illogical. I am a woman, so of course, we all know RP doesn't give a fuck what I think, but it'd be cool if you'd listen instead of just disregarding everything. 1) A low n-count woman will want a low n count man. Outside of the RP "universe", very few high n count men partner with virgins because as virgins we think they are bad bets for marriage. Assuming I can have any guy I want, I will choose the less experienced guy over the more experienced all other things equal b/c …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 05:57 AM
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apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 05:46 AM
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Ok, I'm not really interested in all this bs. may god have mercy on your soul if you don't marry a red pill woman and instead marry a blooper. I mean, the RPW aren't doing much better than we are. I mean, a lot of BPers have happy bf's and marriages. And a lot of RPW have utterly failed. So I fail to see what you're trying. and except for a few gems, this dating advice generally sucks, go post it in RP and not here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 05:44 AM
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but to say it "FAILED" for her still doesn't prove that RPW always fails. Sure, but we can't prove RPW is necessary or sufficient in most cases either. RPW, like I have said extensively was , what was the lovely word the elegant ladies of RPW used, "a shit filled twinkie for me" It was believing too much in the concepts RPW teaches, deferring to your man, submission, ignoring your needs and wants, that got OP into this stupid situation. And RPW, as usual when the shit hits the fan, isn't going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 05:42 AM
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re-read above dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 05:40 AM
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However, I would caution you against taking so much comfort from the TBP gals ... Who are often describing their 2-3-4 yr long relationship. Marriages are different 5-10-15 years in to that starting period. In many cases I think the things they describe themselves as happy about now will become issues down the road. Sure, but we also have a fair bit of married BPers too. From my perspective, however, I do see a lot of flawed RPers who have failed at both their relationships and marriages, a pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 05:39 AM
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Do you think there's anything legitimately wrong with what I'm saying besides my flair? Yes, I do. It takes two to tango. She's also stated that she's told her husband she is unhappy with his job and where they live multiple times and he has not done or thought or tried to help her make any plan to change it. In another post, she wrote her husband is someitmes more stoic and hard to communicate with. On top of it, admitting attraction to others when you know your partner is unhappy is pretty stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 11:05 PM
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Go re-read my posts and try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 11:01 PM
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Repudiating career women for marriage is saying that women who don't have careers are more apropos for marriage. and yeah, that does say that if you want marriage you should not have a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:44 PM
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Well if you have fun reading our worst shit and then trolling us, I don't think you can complain about how it makes you feel. If you're feeling terrible reading our stuff for the lulz. Well, that's your lookout. I don't feel guilty about that. It's hard to feel sympathy for trolls who make themselves feel bad whilst mocking and trolling others. I used to feel bad when I actually believed it, but now I don't so I don't feel as bad anymore. So yeah. Maybe you'll know better again at 30. Best of lu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:40 PM
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I mean if he cheats on her, she should divorce him, but if not, she stood try to make her relationship work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:31 PM
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The person above claimed TRp never said anything about career women, which wasn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:29 PM
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There are risks in every part of life and the risk of having a down syndrome baby in your 20s is not zero either. In fact, most down syndrome babies are born to women in their twenties b/c of sheer numerical strength. To be honest, if the choice is between being a good parent in your 30s and being a shitty one in your twenties, one should try to be a good parent. We have techonology to help more women have babies but we can't undo the effects of shitty parenthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:26 PM
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Only blue pillers can see it. He's insane and angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:16 PM
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well, but if you decide to leave, you have no retirement savings. You can always downsize to have a cheaper house payment but cannot regain retirement savings/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:13 PM
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You're not in imminent danger of physical harm or death and neither are your kids. He has not abandoned you and he's not fucking other women. He's not beating you, cheating on you or retreating from you. SUCK. IT. UP. BUTTERCUP. DEAL. WITH. IT. This is bad advice and she will leave if she follows this. Women and men can only suck it up so much. Yes, no life is perfect, but she is really unhappy. She's obviously been sucking it up but cannot anymore. She either needs to finish her studies and see…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:29 PM
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STOP LISTENING TO TRP! IT WILL KILL YOUR MARRIAGE! JUST STOP. Edit: #believeing in trp will fuck your marriage over
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:26 PM
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I too tried it and it didn't work for me either. it doesn't work for anyone. They are crazy and they will not be there to catch you when you fall because they are the most selfish bitches I have ever spoken with/about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:24 PM
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Do not listen to TRP about marriage, They've succesfully destroyed more marriages and relationships than they can help. You need to really let him know how miserable you are and that things have to change. IMO, I don't know all the details, but when you have kids, you NEED to think about them. Kids do not do well after a divorce. They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:24 PM
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Why in the world would you do that? your 401k is your retirement savings and you lost them... why????
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:21 PM
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Divorcing is dumb, but it's up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:21 PM
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Uh, I don't recommend taking RPW's advice, half of them haven't even succesfully managed to get their hubbies to marry them. Don't believe me? I'll show you the post. I don't think you should divorce your husband. That's fucking stupid, also think of your kids. What you should do is find a way to get your mojo back. Tilt back the power in your relationship. Finish schooling, succuesfully find a job and things will begin to look up. Use your freer time to read interesting intellectual books. if h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:20 PM
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Wow. That's a lot of insanity and anger from one posts. If you need therapy, I have one I can recommend to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:15 PM
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Well, TRP does say stuff about "career women" https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3qelhp/stay_away_from_independent_career_women/ in there he says "these career women are stubborn,are entitled and only go for them if u enjoy power struggles. As men let us flip the script and go for pretty,feminine women , barely legal in age and groom them to our liking by feeding them the red pill." https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/22fwdp/forbes_article_dont_marry_career_women/ And Rok had …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:00 PM
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Whereever did you get the feeling she wanted to divorce him. Just b/c she's unhappy doesn't mean she wants to break up her kids lives. I think she got married too soon, subsumed herself in marriage like many women and forgot who she was. Which can be changed, but is also a sharp critique of RPW. However, their many failures are crtique enoughh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:54 PM
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Women can still have kids past 35, dear old mamaa had my littlest at 40. It is hard, yes, but it's harder to also be trapped in a life you didn't want to live, feeling stunted b/c you thought you HAD to HURRY UP and have kids when you weren't ready. Also, not sure if you'd be a good parent in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:52 PM
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Except trp also says that for every display of love, give 1/3rd of love back. Honestly, trpers are never honest or true about what their actual beliefs are, I've learned that they water it down b/c they know it's indefensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:49 PM
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They can't explain it. sorry. They don't know how.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:48 PM
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Single mothers are the scum of the earth. I hate women. Remember women are the most respoinsible teenager in the house. Welcome to trp, the hamster is strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:48 PM
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The only correct statement he has made is that women cannot always have it all. Other than that, yeah, all bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:47 PM
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I don't think she blamed him completely for her unhappiness. How will any compromise be reached if you are always the victim to his career and his children? Oh here we go again, In RPW the WOMAN is ALWAYS WRONG and never the man. This is why they've utterly failed to fix relationships and marriages. And in fact, could not catch a woman whose husband was cheating until it was too late. Unless one wants their life to be ruined I suggest never taking RPW advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:45 PM
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Exhibit A: WHY RPW does not work and will destroy your happiness and life. Yep, yep yep. Thanks for the advice whatgives31, I will defintiively be taking it into account when looking/dating for a partner/husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:43 PM
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Why would you think I'd try and argue my way out of it ? I don't expect anyone outside my personal life to show me any respect. I'm not here seeking your respect.... Feel free..... Because I knew you were going to continue arguing and trying to press your point. It's cute. But my mind is made up. It is true, you're just reading shit outrage porn. There is shit in there, mixed with the gold. TBP filters the shit out and read that, RPM filter the gold out and read that. Have fun reading the shit y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 12:00 AM
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No. If it makes you feel terrible ? Don't read our stuff. You've seen enough. You can make a choice now. I have made a choice. I don't respect you if red pill is what you stand for TGP. And I find that sad, we've had a lot of fun convos together. but if red pill is your way then sorry, I can't respect that TGP. and that's not going to change. You can't argue your way out of it. Do you want to read people trying to speak the truth, and feel terrible, but perhaps gain a brutally honest view ? That…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 10:33 PM
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Why would we? arguing with red pillers is like arguing with a stone wall. Also you don't respect us, you think women are holes to jerk off into, your posts call us the scum of the earth.... there is no way we will engage with you guys. If you ever decided to clean up your tone, then maybe. But as long as a post such as "single mothers are the scum of the earth" is upvoted and cheered, well, then, nah, no one wants to talk to you. I mean do you think single mother should kill themselves? what are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 09:25 PM
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If someone says otherwise, then discard him and believe me. I know stuff. What makes your belief more representative than his?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:59 PM
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Moralising massively curtails its ability to do that. Except as the purple piller above pointed out, you guys moralize all the time. 1) women drives a guy to suicide was a top trp post. implies we should nto drive a guy to suicide 2) women cheats on her husband and trpers are angry implies women shouldn't cheat on their hubbies. So when you say moralizing, what you really mean is that it's okay to moralize on the fraillties of women but not men. That's bs and you know it TGP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:58 PM
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Allowing discussion on all topics and leaving the moral filter to the reader is the opposite of censorship. man that's just false, because TRP does make moralistic statements, a purple pill gusy said it best, so I'll quote him: "Yes, it is. They're banning certain types of speech. That's fine, it's their right. But you can't do that AND claim "we don't censor." You do, RP. I also disagree that their stance is even akin to "no moralizing allowed." What they don't allow is moralizing they don't li…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:56 PM
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Sure there will be angry people in all subreddits. but my stronger question is: since trp is a carefully cultivated garden of useful material, why keep these posts? what purpose do they serve?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:54 PM
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. I believe that it must be tested against opposing views and remain rational to be a good viewpoint. But is purple pill debate a good place to see opposing views? I mean look at most threads here, it's all red pill. This place is more of an echo chamber than a good debate half the time. Even when I do a both pills debate post, I get 4 messages from a red piller for every 1 msg for a blue piller. Why not look somewhere better?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:53 PM
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UH. that was not my post, I was quoting it to tear it apart and I wanted to know whether the guy above wanted me to look at this post for arguments sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:51 PM
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It's almost exactly the same. Do you think we seriously believe, every woman on this earth is the same? I think a lot of you do. and as for the other, you interpreted the post in a different way than someone else I spoke to, what makes your interpretation more correct or more representative of the TRP than his? that's what I'd like to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:50 PM
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That was not what the post said. The post said: 1) I believe all single mothers ( except widows) are bad people who are destroying their kids 2)All single moms are only single moms ( xcept widows) because they lied about BC to entrap their husband s spawn 3) Single mothers are subhuman 4)Single mothers are 100% responsible for their kids growing up fatherless. Do you agree with those statements for all non-widow single moms? Would you be willing to post it on facebook? let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:49 PM
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sure: Here are some posts that I wonder why are still left up. 1.https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3dajpw/women_have_no_value_outside_of_their_pussy/ 2.https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1b42y3/women_have_no_value_beyond_their_pussies/ There were some sensible comments in there. but I wondered why there was no reprimand, you left it up there b/c you thought it served a purpose: what purpose was that? Here's another highly upvoted one:https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comme…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:45 PM
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Yeah, but it's not your job to tell someone else on TRP how he has to deal with the moral implications of his actions. I agree with this. This is why I have never ever gone on TRP to tell people hey, you are wrong and I don't like your ideas. However, I think TRP owes it to itself to think about what the consequences of their actions are. Because that's reality..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:35 PM
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but that doesn't mean that there's an inherent contradiction between the two. but there is. Like I said, I have no problem with TR's censorship. But they are making statements about what info/ideas they want in their sub. A political party is not a bastion of free speech and neither is TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:34 PM
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Wow. I had to re-read this post b/c I was so surprised someone was willing to be honest and straight with me! So in your opinion, what purpose do you think such statements serve at TRP? Why do they allow this stuff, is it just poor quality control, is TRP happily courting a radical fringe?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:33 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:31 PM
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So, in your opinion, ought a guy to linger in the anger stage forever? "anger phase" is something though that a lot of TRpers use to excuse the angry rants. Infact, I'm arguing with someone right now who is doing just that. So....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:31 PM
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Ok. So why if I drop by TRP at any time, I find guys who seem to be angry at women . making posts all filled with bashing all women. just today: 1)https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3r3yqw/woman_in_early_20s_goes_on_sex_spree_hamsters/ 2)https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3r55tg/fr_awalt_even_when_you_nurse_them_back_to_health/ 3)https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/19non3/i_used_to_be_so_blue_pill_that_i_came_to_hate/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:29 PM
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Actually, I was wondering why that bothered me so much and now I realized it. TRP holds women to such a high standard. There are tons of posts marked as Red pill example where thay post about women who cheated on their husbands, used a guy for money and so on. These posts imply a moral judgement on women. Yet, hypocritical Red Pillers refuse to turn that eye on themselves. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:25 PM
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But that doesn't fly either, b/c the people having moralistic arguments were TRPERS not blue pillers or anyone else. In fact, a man who said that you should "try to get to know a woman" was deemed as "not TRP" enough and told he was wrong and drummed out of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:24 PM
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What I mean when I say I'm shocked is that post was full of unfounded biases and assumptions. I wouldn't be surprised if you said "lift" or whatever, but it's all about how he "feels" single mothers suck b/c he "feels" they all lied about BC to entrap men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:59 PM
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Confused about what and it what way? When a gun owner says "every gun it's loaded," he assumes that his audience is conscious enough to know that he does not think every single gun on the planet is loaded. That's not really the same thing as saying AWALT. And they're free to think that. That's not an inherent message. It may be a conclusion they've reached from the red pill, but not an inherent message. What makes your inherent message any more correct than theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:57 PM
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1) But do you care about the truth of the rant? or how the rant twists the truth? From any logical viewpoint, the hyperbole in many RP posts often makes them completely meaningless. The response I got to that was that the post were not for me and the reality was supposed to be more measured. But then I also argue with TRpers who believe for example " all women are shit" word for fucking word. So not only am I confused, I'd wager some trpers are confused as well. And it makes it even harder to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:48 PM
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You have to understand, if we let all the feminists in then our entire sub will be nothing but feminists bitching at us. I have no problem with that,as long as we acknowledge that's what TRP is doing. TBP bans trpers for the same reason. Because it's so straight forwardly good red pill content. It got VERY heavily supported. I don't know what kind of question it raises. I guess my quibble is that I didn't see any actionable information there except hatred of single women. if you look down in thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:45 PM
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Maybe you forgot what I was responding to. You said that TRP subscribers subscribe just to downvote. I inferred that someone who cares about TRP that much, would likely subscribe to TBP. Nope, that doesn't follow. [Of course, I would like to point out that a subredditanalysis of TBP found that only one in 17 subscribers also subscribes to TRP and realistically, a lot of those are actually red pillers who also check the blue pill. Or they could be bluepillers who check the red pill. 2.>You're kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:42 PM
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I addressed that in number 5 of my post. If a guy is in the anger phase, the correct thing to do is not to give him a forum for his stupidity, but to tell him he needs to lurk more and that such posts will not be tolerated. If mods can tell guys who question trp to get out and delete themselves there is no reason they cannot do this for angry guys.b
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:38 PM
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Great. At least we have some common ground for a good debate. Okay, so my next question is: what purpose do these angry ranting posts serve. I've gotten 1) TRP is a place for angry men to rant about women 2)These posts must be as hyperbolic as possible to be effective- which I thought was intriguing. so what's your viewpoint?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:36 PM
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Okay, how is "ranting" anywhere within the stated aims of the red pill which is "The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:34 PM
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Why do you use the word "censor" instead of "moderate" ? Simply because a lot of trpers are arguing with me that TRP is some bastion of free speech instead of an archive which is carefully cultivated to create/ allow certain content. We "censor" content that doesn't help the sub move forward or explore our ideas well and we keep content that does. I don't get the question. What do you believe helps the sub move forward? That might be a bad example. Without looking back and checking, that post wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:31 PM
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Okay, but if you're scaring the people who hate those words you are by a process of elimination inviting people who believe that. By the way, I'm not just pulling this out of my ass, I am actually debating a guy right now who has asked me to prove than any single mother is a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:26 PM
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1) You've also gotta explain why we grow so much faster than TBP. here's why TBP growth is slower than TRP, for every TRPer that leaves, most never want to deal with TRP again. Why subscribe to a subreddit that makes them miserable. hell, I left TRP for a couple of months myself. We're a subreddit of a subreddit. Of course we will grow much slower than TRP> 2) Successful means winning the nomination. and he won't win it. I would place money on it. 3) yes you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:25 PM
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But you're okay with the people who believe word for word "single mothers are subhuman scum, right?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:22 PM
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I don't argue with racists. sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:22 PM
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Great. But that was not the point I was trying to make. As TRP, you have a sidebar full of content you endorse as representative of TRP's beliefs and mods whom you trust to safeguard the authenticity fof that sub. If I pull from the sidebar, then it is content that is representative of TRP. And if you can't explain why it's there, that similair to a Christian who cannot explain who Jesus is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:20 PM
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On what? Because at the moment I am having an argument with a man who really does believe single mothers are subhumans with no redeeming qualities. I want to know whether this is a feature or just a bug.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:18 PM
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Which idiots?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:17 PM
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We just don't control it the way you want us to. Okay great. At least you admit that you do censor what appears on TRP. So my question is why do you censor what you do? That was the whole point of this post? The answer to your question is that we don't remove that content because it's the kind of content that we've chosen to allow on our sub and it's the content that we want there. And this is exactly what I've been trying to get TRP guys to admit. Alright, so why do you think a post like "Singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:17 PM
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Hmm. 1) as a lot of posters said on the subreddit where you were discussing TRp's new number of posters, a lot of people subscribe just to downvote you. 2) Just like Donald trump has a push in the polls, TRP is the reactionary subreddit that is the flavour of the day just like The game was in the early 2000s and tucker max's books once were. 3) You don't know how much you "could" grow without the clickbait angry articles. And grow sustainably.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:12 PM
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I don't know: 1) do you think black people have a lower IQ and are subhuman scum? 2) are you afraid of all the black men taking "your" women? 3) Do you sometimes wish we could exterminate all blacks and minorities so Europe could be as white as it was in the Pre-Roman era? if so, you're a Ku-Klux Klan white racist like Dylann Roof. Glad I could clear that up for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:10 PM
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Here's the meaning of hate: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hate I think his ideas fit. Moreover, people will read his work and use that ideal to treat single mothers worse. he's not directly responsible for that, but he is somewhat responsible. And even more, single mothers are bad relationship prospects, they harm their children, and they're bad for society. It's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:07 PM
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This is the most interesting response I've gotten here. You've piqued my curiosity. In my subjective belief, and once again since I've realized all of TRP is subjective I generally don't pull out facts anymore, I think you can still keep the mindset and the confidence without having to state everything in absolutist terms. Moreover, the ambiguity helps us make more accurate predictions about the world. I've been reading abook called "the Signal and the Noise' but NAte Silver, great book. In it h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:04 PM
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avoid single mothers, they're bad relationship prospects, they harm their children, and they're bad for society. That is pretty hateful. and more than that, it's not even true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:55 PM
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I never said that. Try reading my post again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:54 PM
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Okay, so when I read posts like "single mothers are scum " or read sgtatements like "women are shit", I'm supposed to take that as angry venting or how the man truly feels?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:53 PM
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Well, I've already addressed that point above in paragraph 4. basically for every person they bring to TRP, they scare 2 away. This is not a good long term strategy, just like DOnald Trump's behavior is not a good way to win the Republican nomination.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:50 PM
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They subtly provide the full picture. They don't provide any picture Epicurean. We're talking about whether or not he hates women. He hates women who happen to be single mothers. His argument is based on beliefs about the behavior of single mothers; Yes, apriori hateful, unproven beliefs, irrational beleifs too. So once again what is his intent but to stir up anger against single women? I also think that i am not alone in thinking he wants us to hate single mothers. Another RPer below said this:…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:44 PM
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Hmm. Ok. BUt TRpers often complain that they are hated by other subs, and it seems like they dislike this. See this post: ScumbagBillionaire:I've been banned from various subs not for violating any explicit rules, but because a user or mod didn't like what I said and checked my post history and saw me post on theredpill. Then the user would just say "HE'S A REDPILLER!" and all discussion would stop or I'd have a mod send me a private message telling me "we don't want redpillers on our sub" and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:42 PM
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In order that ALL men with ALL moral systems have access to everythibg that works we have to take no moral stance. No that's ridiculous. Because everyone brings his morals to teh discussion, it would be more correct to allow people to state those morals instead to let them linger as biases which color your information. And if men try to moralize on the content, then we can have a robust debate about morals vs content. But stifling that debate makes no sense. Eitherway, it is still censorship. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:37 PM
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Uhhh, what critical thinking? He rarely said what you claim he's saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:33 PM
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Ok. So I will show such posters this exchange when I argue with them. Okay, let's get back to the debate I really wanted to have. What purpose do you think incendiary language serves ergo that mods do not ban it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:33 PM
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I come here to convince myself. That's really interesting to me. Why is TRP not enough to convince you? Why do you need to be secure in your beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:31 PM
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I think single mothers are good and bad people just like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:30 PM
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People say you can do this all the time, but people from TRP don't care either way as both sources would provide the same info. If u wanna do that go ahead Hold on, I am a bit confused. Why wouldn't it matter if some source was 100% true and another was 99% shit and 1% true? Of course it would, the first would be easier to digest and more actionable and the second would turn off mahy people b/c of the shit. The hatred can often provide context, like you say it shows bias and provides information…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:29 PM
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TRP as a private company can censor what they want, no one can hold them accountable. I completely agree with this. However, TRP cannot also claim to defend free speech and censor people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:24 PM
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Because, as I say... Moral arguments are outside the confines of RP thought. Once again you cannot explain why? That is censorship at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:24 PM
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That's completely true. However, in that case I assume you wouldn't try to defend TRP. My problem is when I encounter guys who are defending TRP but say "Oh that shit in the sidebar is not representative of me. I don't believe that! I am an individual" Like okay. but it makes a debate meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:22 PM
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Ok, so is TRP aplce for angry guys to vent or place for angry guys to get less angry and better their lives? Or is it both?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:19 PM
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No it was not. He didn't spend more than one sentence on LTR's. He did write a lot of stuff about how he felt that single mothers were a poison on society and damaged their kids. See my analysis below.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:18 PM
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No, he's given me an answer that is illogical, I've pointed out flaws in his logic. But whatever, I'm not here to have a debate about whether he cares or does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:16 PM
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Uhm, no I was about to tear it apart b/c I disagreed with it. sorry. I'm just waiting for him to confirm that I had seen the correct piece of information.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:15 PM
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This kind of moralizing is banworthy. TRP doesn't tell you what is morally wrong or right, you have to decide that for yourself. I think with all due respect, that is silly. One of the books I really like, is a song of fire and ice. In that book, Ned stark tells his young son that when you execute a man, you need to do it for yourself, stare into his eyes and accept that a life is the consequences of that man's actions. Anything else is babying a guy. Similarly, if you use dread game, you owe it…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:14 PM
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I already posted an explanation of it's intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:07 PM
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Okay. Thanks for helping me prove my point. Actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:06 PM
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It's a necessary step to allow debate to take place. Why did you decide what debates are okay and not okay to have. That is censoring. Moreover, these guys debating the morality of TRP were Trpers, so that doesn't work TGP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:05 PM
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Ok, I'm skimming the article right now. first sentence: 1) "Single mothers are complete and utter mother fucking subhuman scum 99.9% of the time. If she's not a widow, she's scum. The statistics for kids raised by single mothers shows all manner of dysfunction (poverty, mental illness, crime) for kids raised by single mothers, but not widows. Well, that was insulting and incendiary but since I am asked to ignore the wrapper and see the content, I'll look at that. Content is shit. Single mothers …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:56 PM
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a group of people working together to advance their shared political, social, or artistic ideas. TRP fits that ideal. You never answered my question. What was the main message of the post? Here is the post You've never answered any of my questions either, I'm kind of waiting on thagt. I had 5 in the original post so it shouldn't be so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:54 PM
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I guess you're referring to this post :I'm not sure if the author assumes that women stop maturing mentally once they are 18 due to physiological differences between men and women. If that is the case, I have to disagree. However, if he see's it more from a view of "Women are conditioned by society to not have a need to mature any further than 18" (which is then bolstered by an entitlement complex), then yes, I do agree. The 'science' behind this is from the 1850's, so I would take it with a gra…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:53 PM
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Hes saying that its important to be able to extract valuable, insightful or useful information from things that are mostly shit. That's ridiculous. If TRp is producing mostly shit, the correct answer to that is to pare down the shit to the useful nugget if information. I have also rarely seen anything useful on TRP that I could not find elsewhere. Everyone in TRP knows when to skim through peoples posts, because they are fueled by emotion and therefore only useful to understand the context of wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:52 PM
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Okay, do you actually believe everything you said or is there some "message" in your words I am missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:47 PM
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I guess you wrote this to me in order to say that this is the type of guys trp was written for , right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:46 PM
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Not that I have seen they have not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:41 PM
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I would agree with this except that TRp does not follow it. I found some of the discussions about the morality of RP some of the most interesting parts of RP b/c instead of living in theory it looked at how theory worked in the real world. But the moderators banned it, so why couldn't I choose out of those ideas? It was pre-selected away from me. In this way, RP is disingenous, either RP agrees that all views should be represented blue pill and moralistic views or it agrees that all views are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:40 PM
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Lol you found one post about single mothers written in hyperbole, admittedly so by the author If moderators can censor moral content or blue pillers, then why can't they censor extreme content, especially when it brings such a bad view of their movement. t. He gave an opinion and people smart enough to look past the outrageousness got it. First of all, why can't he just give his opinion, why coat it in outrageousness? and what do you think he was trying to prove. Please explain to me what the de…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:38 PM
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Or to point out flaws in their beliefs. Even when trying to convince someone of views, it's possible to be fairly detached and not care whether or not they belief you. If you don't care about what I have to say, why are you pointing out flaws in my argument? I mean you choose to subscribe to PPD and this place is not a debate tournament, so yeah, you do care about TRp and you're trying to convince. Let's put that point to bed. Here is where reading comprehension comes in. What was the main messa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:36 PM
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They are not for you, can you imagine not being the target group? Even when I run it by my brother or other guys I know, they still don't appreciate it or understand it and there are other men on TBP. So once again, why is it there for me to read?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:33 PM
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I would have to explain if people questioned me on it, just like I would need to explain if I was a Ku Klux Klaner waving the confederate flag in public and said I didn't mind black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:32 PM
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I'll address your other points later, but your first point got my notice. Men need a place to vent and speak freely. TRP has long had a commitment to offering men the opportunity of such a space. The mods don't want to censor. But then why do you censor people who make moralistic statements in TRP, does their right to speak freely not matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:28 PM
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Don't read rants and bp examples. That's a ridiculous cop out. Why are there examples there for me to read? I just told you, none. So what's the reason for it to be there? It adds no content and only serves to outrage people, it's like empty calories
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:27 PM
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I think you're forgetting that reddit is not a publicly owned site. It's a privately owned one. Just as restaurants can kick out customers who refuse to pay, reddit can kick out people who bring bad enough publicity to Reddit. So yes, if TRP brings enough bad publicity to reddit, reddit will shut it down. However, the federal government cannot ban TRP from the web -- that would be censorious. Hope I cleared that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:26 PM
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Yeah. It's okay. I'm not pissed or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:18 PM
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Debating does not me I care about how others view me. The very point of debating is to convince someone of your opinion or viewpoint. I disagree. I don't women, I'm not racist, and I don't care about cares. I don't see a decent majority of TRPers expressing or espousing those views. Look at the threads from the last month or so. Where are hateful views expressed? Okay, now you are being willfully blind. Single mothers are the scum of the earth was just one of your ( by your I mean TRP's)recent p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:18 PM
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I was talking about /u/veyron99
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:15 PM
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1) You didn't answer my question 2) TRp obviously does care about what others think, if not then they wouldn't be arguing in PPD. Why are you defending TRP or even explaining it to me if you don't care about what I think?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:14 PM
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The culture on TRP is an idiot test. When you can't read information without getting offended then you shouldn't read TRP. So let me get this right, you think TRPers are secretively hiding good information in bile and crazy statements? Why not just come right out and say what they want to say? Moreover than that: The women is the oldest teenager in the house? What useful information is that trying to impart?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:09 PM
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TRP does not care what others think. But you do. Otherwise you wouldn't be trying to convince young guys to come to your site and you wouldn't be arguing on PPD? So let's discard that out of hand immediately. If you've got a problem with TRP views and message; challenge it. I have all the time. Calling it hateful, misogynistic, racist, homophobic, etc. does not challenge TRP message. But that is the TRP message.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:08 PM
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Oh great, a racist again. Tell me more about how I am inferior. Should I perhaps kill myself to rectify the issue? Just wondering.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:06 PM
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No one's is burning any books my dear. TRp has it's own private back up site for when it gets kicked out of reddit so I suspect y'all would be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:05 PM
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It's about the same. Source: am black. I'd also point out that many white nationalists subscribe to TRP. In this subreddit, I've been told that one of the best things a woman should do for herself is to not be black, as I have the misfortune to be born black I was confused about how I should proceed. Was bleaching my skin and risking cancer the right way to fix it or should I attempt suicide to solve the problem? /s Both two shits of a feather or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 08:00 PM
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Who else ought I to ask, random guys on the internet? But either way, not the chief point of my post. Address it and add value to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 07:59 PM
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I secretly love you. Like that was such a wonderful comeback, you basically swatted him like an annoying 2 year old. It was beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 11:29 PM
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Your memory is WRONG. Nah, I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 12:41 AM
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RPers are not based in logic, fact, science, the real world or anything other than feelz. They've told me. I don't debate them anymore because it is generally not worth the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 12:39 PM
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TGP, please don't lie. I remember that situation perfectly. You were banned because you kept harassing our members with PM's. Avoid that shit in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 12:38 PM
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Nope. But hey.it is possible
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:18 AM
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Are you okay? That is a completely retarded view? I hate to ask but ..... are you four?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 03:37 AM
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actually it is working just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 06:53 PM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/09/paternity-leave-policies_n_7762108.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/upshot/paternity-leave-the-rewards-and-the-remaining-stigma.html?_r=0 http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/01/the-daddy-track/355746/ Here are some excellent articles about it!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:53 PM
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that's tough. I would support a financial abortion in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 10:41 PM
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'cept the cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 10:38 PM
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You know a ton of feminists are fighting for paternity leave? I think it would potentially be an excellent idea that would strengthen families and i wish more people did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 10:38 PM
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I for example, think it's unequal that men don't get pregnant. I think we should cut up men's stomachs and implant babies inside them, no matter how unfeasible until mean carry half our nation's babies. /s *just for note that was sarcasm, cause I know a red piller will use as an example of a heartless feminist or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 10:36 PM
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I'm kind of dying of laughter myself. I wonder what else we could apply that kind of logic to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 10:32 PM
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Men are jailed ALL THE TIME for not paying child support. How do you know they're not lying? Have you been jailed for not paying CS? How do you know Pem?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 10:24 PM
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Yup. Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 10:14 PM
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It's important to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:45 PM
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or african americans. grr.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:41 PM
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Wow, TGP, never thought I would see the day when I would agree with you. In this case, you are right. Hold on to that, I may never say it again. haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:41 PM
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yeah, but see my above posts, condoms actually aren't all that effective. Nevertheless, we fundamentally agree, do what you can to avoid pregnancy if you're not ready for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:40 PM
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Me: Well, my friend told me her boyfriend has a tatoo Pem: How do you know that? she could be lying, women lie. Me: um.... Pem: I have it on good authority her bf does not have a tattoo, a friend of a friend of a friend told me he doesn't have one. Crickets. Not logical pem, it just isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:38 PM
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Me: I think 9/11 did occur Pem: How do you know? Where you there? Did you see the twin towers fall? Me: well, no Pem: How do you know they weren't lying to you? Me: well newspapers reported it.... Pem: That may or may not be true. let's continue with this line of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:37 PM
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So I guess everyone who doesn't have kids should not talk about child support. Ok. that sounds reasonable. Is this how you debate other things. 1) I don't think the moon landing was faked. Pem: HAVE YOU ever gone to the moon? Me: well, no, I'm not an astronaut Pem: So you don't KNOW what is going on haha, I love this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:31 PM
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so you don't pay CS. You live with the mom. Guess your arguments are moot. them logics. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:28 PM
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note: women also have to spend money on their kids. I feel like we all forget this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:27 PM
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ok. but here's the issue, we once did have forced sterilizations and this was the result:http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/07/25/205547272/north-carolina-set-to-compensate-forced-sterilization-victims Even more, I don't have time to find a source but look it up, sometimes women who had been raped by a relative were sterilized b/c the rape was deemed their fault/ I don't really think we want government bureaucrats deciding whether we can or cannot have kids, it just doesn't work out wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:22 PM
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ok. But birth control can have some significant effects, one of the ones less spoken about is depression. quick search, but if you look under webmd, bc can lead to depression http://www.webmd.com/depression/guide/medicines-cause-depression I'm not saying it's not irresponsible to use bc or wrap it up if you do not want kids, but bc definitively does have some side effects that people aren't really speaking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:16 PM
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well, actually that's not true. Here's a nyt article 40/100 women will have a pregnancy in spite of condoms after ten years of perfect use. but perfect use is kind of the wrong number, typical use is probably a better note because as we know, women are not perfect and that number is 91/100. so condoms aren't very good. sad truth is fertility awareness if used well is actually better than the condom. Stats I have used are down below. Check it out, it's super interesting! http://www.nytimes.com/in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:13 PM
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nyt just published an article about i think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:09 PM
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or easy birth control like implanon, has been incredibly effective at reducing out of wedlock rates too as opposed to birth control which has to be taken once a day at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:08 PM
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Well, it's a personal decision. And just like the decision to have anal sex, it's regulated as someone's personal business, the idea is the government should try not to deal or get into people's personal lives if they can. Otherwise, I can see that being a pretty slippery slope. I mean, we could simiarly argue that it makes sense to "castrate" guys in jail so they don't have any more kids ( ugh, how horrible can believe I'm saying this). but we don't because well, the government can't do that. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:00 PM
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Well, here's the problem with that. Abortions are surgeries and can be risky. Who holds the liability if someone is forced to have an abortion and they die on the operating table? the state? the doctor? What if you cannot have an abortion for some reason, then what happens? If the women has ptsd or requires mental treatment becuase she was forced to abort a baby she did not want to, who pays for that? Surely we have to recompense her since she was injured due to state action. Do you really want …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 07:57 PM
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I don't need your upvotes. I don't care about your thoughts about my taste in literature. You are free to disagree with me, as long as you do so respectfully, knowledgeably and explaining your views. Which you did not, you just called me a hipster. and to be honest, that insults me. and it insults me even more that you continue to hammer on your mistake when a simple " I'm sorry, I was wrong" would have remedied the situation. I am not interested in moving on until I hear "sorry" In PPD, wheneve…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:21 AM
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It in no ways makes me look pretentious at all. If I said Sylvia Plath's Bell Jar is awesome, that's not pretentious either. You got angry, jumped on me, and basically attacked me out of nowhere in a way that did not add at all the conversation we were having. Please explain why.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:04 AM
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Yep, since you are so well read, your opinions of literature are more important than mine and the only ones that matter. Why, I am simply an idiot who has never read shakespeare. and the SJW "low how smart I am?" How condescending is that? Welcome to red pill, insulting people who don't deserve it, didn't ask for it and never did anything to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 04:31 AM
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but is that necessarily true? sure outrage gets clicks, but results and supportive communities do too. I don't believe that trp couldn't become successful without the hatred and beating down of women. I mean nofap is amazingly successful and they don't write screeds on how women are useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:18 PM
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no one on tbp is trying for literary elegance tho, while trp does. I mean when I make tbp posts I barely spell check them so ( shrugs)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:15 PM
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What? That's crazy. I love love literature. As someone who wants to say the truth, I can say those guys are not terrible, but they are certainly nothing to write home about. I mean they can put a sentence together, but beauty, elevated prose, deep insights, and just amazing writing is kind of not their forte. You want really deep writing, you can drop by Plato, beautiful poetry, I'd recommend some of the Arabic writers. But GLO, JP, Whisper, Archwinger? come on they're not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:14 PM
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of course it would. If you've ever read any trp field reports, once they start getting sex and become "alfalfa", they start treating girls like shit, cheating on their wives and generally acting like douchebags. So yeah, guys act like assholes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 02:32 PM
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Nope. This is trp working right. This is the world trp creates even if it pretends it doesn't want to. When the most important thing you rate women is on their attractiveness of course women are going to realize..... Being a better person < than being hot thankstrp
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 02:29 PM
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yes. I question myself all the time, look at my mistakes, worry about things I have done. Earlier this year, I made a huge mistake in a place where I worked and I have been thinking about how my attitude caused that and what i could do differently. It's part of what helped me escape the red pill's pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:32 PM
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to me: you refuse to believe my words, because every woman is a liar. If you don't even accept my words as true, how can you argue with me. and you have no idea what guys hit on me because you are not me. If you want an exhaustive list of the 6 guys that ever hit on me ( mostly homeless dudes), I could give you and each description, but honestly that feels like personal invasive information. So you have to take my word for it. Or leave, believing your psuedoscience. But don;t you dare call me a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:31 PM
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You specifically said that you refuse to talk about "every single guy that ever hit on me" Ok. I'll specifically state it: That was not true. there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 06:37 PM
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No no HSW, that can't be it. It must be because of their alfalfa cocks. As a woman, you don't understand anything about your desires, motivations or self. Sit down and let your alfalfa talk for you. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 06:01 PM
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No, I assume that every single girl gets attention. Yeah. That's not true either. K. Just pointing out that you still had men pursuing you, so the TRP's "destruction" of your life wasn't about being unattractive to ALL men and having no prospects AT ALL. I specifically said that was not true. I mean unless you want to argue with my experience of life, well then good luck. It was about your realization that you probably won't ever have a top 1% alpha male commit to you. What top 1% alpha male? Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:59 PM
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No we don't debate. Because you guys ignore evidence and then we get frustrated, and the whole thread dissolves into personal attacks. But meh, I guess trp needs another echo chamber. I've met very few redpillers who were capable of deep self reflection anyway/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:55 PM
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nope. You made a sarcastic aside about BP, I responded. You're just mad because you know Rp is full of nonsense. Sorry. not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:54 PM
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Well since you still sound bitter I am only bitter that you're still teaching people this crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:53 PM
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1) You noted that trp hurts those who are fundamentally insecure ---> we agreed that some feminists are fundamentally insecure ---> I logically pointed out that due to premises A and B, feminists wouldn't benefit from trp. then you defined "tumblrina feminism" with no evidence that definition is right. and then asked me to tell you about these feminists despite the fact that people on tumblr is literally the definition of unimportant. do you think that feminists of the tumblrina faction are actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 05:09 AM
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what others? You assume that every single girl is drowning in attention. But we aren't. And that's the reality of life. I mean do you want me to talk about every single guy that ever hit on me? that's idiotic. and not information you need or deserve. if you want to believe I am lying because it contradicts with red pill theory, well, kind of proves the close minded thing right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:55 AM
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Or you can realize that you've invented an imaginary problem that doesn't exist and leave the virtual reality for the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:45 AM
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Girls get matched with tons of guys, so you have really stand out if you want her to return your messages. Yeah.there's a societal penalty on women who have ons, so tindr is skewed towards men. however, message enough girls and one will say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:42 AM
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to me a meaningful life is one dedicated to decreasing the abject suffering in the world. meaning differs from person to person, but pleasure is not at the forefront.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:41 AM
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You sound bitter :) Don't worry, once I stopped believing a pseudoscience that works for only .001 of the reddit population about how 3 billion people are genetically inferior things got much better. Whaddaya know? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:39 AM
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what men that liked me? You mean the one crack addict who was wondering how to get a woman like me? Do you think I should have dated him?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:37 AM
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you're being willfully obtuse right now and this is why we don't debate red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:36 AM
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I know.:(
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:24 PM
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Read your stuff again. that's mere hamstering on your part. Her links did prove you wrong, and you've made no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:23 PM
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see i don't agree with you. i think beauty doesn't = intelligence or worth and a meaningful life is more important than a fun one. and this is why we can't debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:14 PM
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you haven't answered me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:13 PM
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if he's on tindr, he doesn't have to. And all people need to have a minimum fo self-confidence to say hi or make eye contact with the opposite sex. no need for crazy sets and games though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:58 PM
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yep. I dated one guy who treated me badly and my dad was so angry. I laughed and said, "haha, now you know what other women you treated badly must have felt like. You can experience their pain through me"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:53 PM
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consider that tumblrina feminism is indeed about being an asshole to men well trp makes statements about women as a group. etc: single mothers are the scum of the earth. and since trp isn't just addressed to ?tumblrina? feminists, I think it's fair game to ask that? do you believe all women are tumblrina feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:51 PM
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it's the tenth circle of hell. you freeze in your own tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:48 PM
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Do you think most men people would have that maturity? there fixed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:47 PM
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consider that tumblrina feminism is indeed about being an asshole to men I have never been on tumblr and I doubt that tumblr represents the majority of women just like rp doesn't represent all men. Did you just reduce all women to tumblrinas? What even are those?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:46 PM
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it hurts. and the worst thing for me, is since I;m struggling with internal dislike fo myself because I am black, it just encourages my neuroses.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:44 PM
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many feminists are fundamentally insecure so then trp would be harmful to them,correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:30 PM
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do you genuinely believe most girls are narcissistic? and if you do, do you think narcissistic women or men would come to red pill? I mean, narcissistic women are not coming to rpw, because they aren't going to be submissive to anyone, and all the rpw stuff is water down their backs, why would they let internet guys tell them how to act? For example this girl: http://ari-zonasugar.tumblr.com/post/46816384201/sugar-tip-how-to-keep-your-sugar-daddy-interested is definitively not going to RP. but a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:22 PM
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I know this but you don't know all of our history either. That's absolutely true, so sure take all my notes with a grain of salt. I wouldn't willingly sleep with someone who is already involved with someone, although I can confirm that a lot of girls do do this. I've slept with a few then later found out. And some guys steal cars. But that doesn't mean it is common either. I have no intentions of marrying anyone. I think every relationship should run it's course and end naturally, that's my pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:17 PM
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Why do you think that cheerleading is there? It covers up the insecurity of many women? Why do you think there's a fat acceptance movement, because most fat women don't feel accepted. Also, I would love to see the study that says this and who did it. Not a study, it's a rough estimate or whatever. I mean trp does not use facts very well, so I similarly don't look things up as much as I used to in these arguments. It's a waste of time, since most rpers rarely post studies with links and data inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:05 PM
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also, one more think. If as a woman you're already suffering from low self-esteem or are prone to be taken advantage of and kept under someone's thumb, messages that further encourage you to treat your partner like the best thing since sliced bread and always search for you being at fault yourself are probably not the best lecture for you. You just agreed that trp/rpw is harmful to people with psychological issues. btw
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:55 PM
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If as a woman you're already suffering from low self-esteem lost of women suffer from low self esteem. at least 30% of our population.( probably more)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:53 PM
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nope. we've actually brought a lot of trpers away. just last week a guy said, #thank you TBP because our discourse helped him detox
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:51 PM
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TRP isn't a set of actions, it's a mindset. Actions are a by-product of your beliefs and your thought processes. It's a terrible mindset. All those links are very nice and great. but in practice that's not what they do? RPW aren't open or agreeable. i've seen them cut women down mercilessly who don't agree with them or have different lifestyles. So it's nice that they've got that stuff in the sidebar, but eh, useless. And I've read their sidebar. Not all women are good in a supportive role. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:48 PM
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I've read the sidebar. And I will never go back to that shithole. It was the worst place that ever happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:24 PM
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You're right. the best time I have succeeded with trp guys is when I could empathize with them and try to bring understand their feelings. But, I have run out of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:23 PM
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I'm a lot better after I left trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:21 PM
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Well, trp is racist. to above poster: hey molly!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:19 PM
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paranoid that every man wants to game you, right HSW? Is this guy opening the door to be nice, or because he wants in my pussy? Should I let the guy pick up the check? but if I do, he'll think he's entitled to sex. What about that funny guy I liked, is he a secret trper? And more than that, how do you trust men? Look at the MRP cheating thread, is it worth being married to them? If all men are like trpers, is it worth engaging with them? Why not just wgtow? Yeah. that shit makes you paranoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:19 PM
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Nope. RPW is bad for women and trp is incorrect about the causes of female behavior. I have a friend in college who tried to practice game all the time *(not exactly RP, but RP does promote some game aspects). He's still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:14 PM
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more TRPers Nope. We don't want may Trpers there. Their sub is 3x our size, we won't be able to have fun if they brigaded. But if a guy who is seriously questioning trp comes, we'll engage, especially if he is willing to change. as we have. look at our history. TBP, in it's current state, is a sure fire way to make more people go Red Pill. As a former Rper? or RPW, nope, tbp didn't send me to red pill. my curiosity and naivete did. It was disastrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:13 PM
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nope. -55 to -40: The majority of men are disgusted by the sight of you. Your kind will suffer most when our sexbot overlords arrive. Losers hit on you constantly figuring they have a chance. -39 to -20: ** You were born to cockblock. But you’ll manage to marry a table scrap.** I was born to cockblock and men are disgusted at the sight of me? Do you know how much I struggled to hold eye contact with men after that? I thought they were disgusted by me. I felt disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:11 PM
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a few weeks/months of making her jealous until I could make her want me and then re-establish a bond with her before I poured my heart out would have been a good thing. Dnachem, you shouldn't have gone out with her again. When someone rips your heart open, the correct answer when they want back in your life is "no". TRP or no TRP, that doesn't change. I definitely wouldn't rule out a bit of jealousy tactics in future... It's not like I would be doing anything harsh. there are tons of girls out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:01 PM
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Nope see my above answer. Your philosophy is toxic .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 01:21 PM
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no. This is why trp is just nonsense and wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 01:20 PM
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It told me I wan't worth anything as a person, and that with a 5 in SMV, my best bet was to sleep with a guy for a ONS whom he'd be embaressed to take home or look at in the morning. #thankstrp
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 01:20 PM
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Well, there have been numerous trper's who came and have asked us questions.. But hey, if you don't want to try, I won't stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 01:18 PM
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Shrugs. Ok. Well, then that's your prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:53 AM
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How on earth did reading something on the internet destroy you? It taught me toxic ideas about myself, my own attractiveness, the way I was judged by society and I was just young enough and naive enough to accept it. If you're unwilling to accept yourself then there's nothing that anyone can say that will make you happy, RPW or otherwise. RpW isn't about accepting yourself, it's about trying to create yourself into this idealized viewpoint of a woman. Sure, you can try to be pleasant, but, not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:53 AM
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Well, give me some idea of how you planned to go assuming petty thinks of class as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:44 AM
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In our culture, women are not the askers, men are. I'm not sure how that means that women aren't choosing men based on attractiveness on tindr and so on though? But good artificial scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:43 AM
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I don't have a Ph.d, but I am going for a more terminal degree. So, and let me get this right, according to trp, should i kill myself or buy cats? because those are the options trp gives me. Do you think that would help the mental health of women? Let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:42 AM
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I did read /r/ redpillwomen. It destroyed my life. You've created me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:40 AM
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let me bite, so why would accepting this text as correct doom her argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:37 AM
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I used to be part of that trp loop and now that I'm out of it, I can't debate it that much either. Why? because all the presumptions of the debate kind of fall apart like spun sugar or something. Let me explain: in order to debate, both sides have to have some core commonalities, right? In debate, we usually have a set of defintions of what each term is and we both agree that perhaps "creating a better society might occur through making the society happier, richer or whatever". Moreover, we agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:36 AM
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That makes no sense. You presented a book without any sort of explanation as to why it's important or what we're supposed to make of it. What do you want us to say? It's a book? You'd have to give us more to work on Ec.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:12 AM
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I'm curious. I studied biology ans so have little background in all these feely touchy things, can you explain to me why one source is the be and end all authoritative source on women being chattel?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:11 AM
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EcCoast, then find us a quote that proves your point. In this whole debate, only Petticoat has posted any quotes or anything to prove her point. You have well, nada, nothing. So..... we're waiting.....*crickets**
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:09 AM
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eh. I'm a girl, and I'm not lesbian so idk not very helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:03 AM
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Hopefully to stop posting on tbp, and give up on you guys, get into graduate school, get a bf and erase every vestige of rp from my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:02 AM
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It's all about the eye language, the subtle signs of intelligence, and perhaps a little bit of witty sarcasm. I don't very much like guys who talk too loudly to too many girls. How borring. unoriginal. stupid. The guy I would like, sits, cute and collected, calm, drinks a little, but not too much, and watched the room coolly, making smart observations about the people in the room. I've seen too many guys chat and chat on about terribly stupid subjects that are not at all intriguing to listen too…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:11 AM
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and sometimes, if that guy is good looking, he can have this kind of fascinating brooding way about him, depending on how he looks. And that look might draw you in, as he's a kindred spirit and make you think "damn that guy isn't talking up all those chicks, he's just chilling in a corner by himself. He seems like a cool cat. I wonder what that's about"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:08 AM
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you would be more receptive initially because of that pre-selection.. maybe.... or maybe you'd say, hey this guy is a player and I want to stay away or you might also think I'm not that interested tonight. The problem with game is that is assumes that women are like tables, they don't exist or move unless guys get there. Sometimes a woman sleeps with you because you just happen to be in the right place and she's horny. Happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:06 AM
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female attraction to males relies on more than just a man's physical appearance. Not true. For one night stands, appearance is enough. It's the only salient feature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:04 AM
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ITT: That racism is over 9,000! Keep at it KuKluxKlan Just don't burn my house down!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:03 AM
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Yes. and romcom are not good dating advice men. Please. we're not Zooey Deschanel and you're not Ryan Gosling. please. Please. please.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:57 AM
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nothing. I can't think of a more fucking terrible and stupid choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:55 AM
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well there are 2x times the Rpers than Bpers and that's not including those who post regularly, which is probably an even more skewed number. It's so annoying when a Rper makes a confrontational post like "So BP, why do you support evil feminist tumblrinas?" and some Rp guy then complains "hah, look no Bpers here" ---> ( bro-five) No joke we aren't here, there are like maybe 10 regular Bpers, and we have jobs to do, apps to fill out, come on, we can't be here 24/7. calm down bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:54 AM
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No. We don't. For women, literally being willing to ask a girl out gets your brownie points. and if you ask enough girls out, well, you'll end up catching one. meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:47 AM
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yes. it made me quite depressed for a while in college. I analyzed myself by the SMV test and felt myself wanting ( as a 5). Add to that my dark skin, and the fact that according to chateau all my education was worthless ( I can't fuck a PhD, right?), it led to a very dark place for maybe a year. Thanks TRP. thankstrp
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:45 AM
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it was more like chateau heartiset --> Hooking up smart--> RPW ---> ( escape out of Plato's cave) --> avoid rp for a whole while ---> tbp---> purple pill
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:42 AM
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and, I should have added this too, amusingly enough to me, I was drawn to RP because I though, wow, this is so scientific and logical. When you're a nerd, (like me), you like books, facts and numbers. I like puzzles and I like answers. I'd memorize the number of interracial marriages in the USA, by race and by gender. I loved the idea of the sexual market, and trying to treat men and women as players in a game of supply and demand. I adored the fact that something like trying to get some with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:39 AM
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I think so. Discussions go round and round, covering the same ground. TRP cannot consider another way, because for them, there is no other way. and that's why I mostly come in to grind their gears and make sarcaustic asides. Every once in a while, I meet a terper? Rper? ( what's the new politically correct word?) who really has the capability to intelligently self-examine themselves; but you have no idea how many terpers I met who believe they cannot be wrong. I think each and every person has t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:30 AM
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My patience really has run out, since you steadfastly refused to answer those questions. They are of a general nature. They are not specific to one person. I am sorry for that, but once again, I won't put all the effort it for nothing, if you want to see my specific critiques, look at my posting history. I can pretty capable of critiquing the red pill, but hey, why should I bother with a guy who seems overly angry at the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:20 AM
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great. And hopefully, when you do find a girl, she'll show you that a lot of the manosphere stuff doesn't work anyway. And hopefully, I can stop coming to these places, looking at mrp is terrifying me away from all men. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:18 AM
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yeah, a blooper reel is full of mistakes, but to me, I don't associate blooper with that, I associate it with stuff that's fun and cute and not insane ( like a terper). I mean if you want to me to be upset, eh, I'm sorry?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:17 AM
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Outside academia, Beyonce is a black woman who proudly promotes feminism as part of her brand. Beyonce is no more a feminist than a flying cow, she promotes unrealistic body standards amongst black women and her video with all the models seemed, well, pretty bad to me. I will also point out the case of Hugo schwayzer. https://bitchmedia.org/post/we-need-to-talk-about-feminism-race-and-hugo-schwyzer That's where the whole solidarity is for white women started with. So, well, as you can see, we ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:42 AM
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I asked you questions. Nope, not really, you never gave me any actionable information. You simple said, I once tried to be nice and being nice was bad, so well I like RP. I'm intrigued by how you'd like me to refute that. Am I supposed to disagree with your feelings and experiences? Well, what about this. I once tried RP, it made me miserable, PennBayliss, refute that! You'd probably ask me: Well, what parts of trp made you miserable? If I was answering like you I would say: Trp just made me fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:34 AM
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It's easier to ignore Manosphere racism because it's a place full of weirdos and racists and conspiratards that don't pretend to be anything else. Yeah, but the racism is still dangerous. I mean, when manosphere people talk about asian chicks being easy, asian men being beta cuckolds or whatever, I mean I'm not even asian and I find that insulting. You've jumped from frying pan to the fire. feminism and social justice talks a big game about how anti-racist it is, which makes racism like the stuf…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:12 AM
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I wanted to engage you in some debate, but you're making it personal when it's not. I wanted to engage you too. But you haven't given me much to debate and well, I'm not going to do the work of going through all the trp posts when you haven't offered anything of substance. If you'd like to see some good posts where I've debunked trp, look at some of the work I've posted in The purple pill. I've done a bunch of pretty good longform posts, but well, I'm not going to give when you have't tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:09 AM
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And as soon as I stop talking to them and walk away and ignore them, they come crawling back wondering why I'm not chasing them saying they want me again. From girl to girl experience, I can tell you that there are some girls like these. Usually the really attractive ones, who like the thrill of the chase. Such girls want to chase you and "win" you, but once they get their "prize", they don't want it anymore. I'd encourage you not to date those girls. You want to take it slow, so no huge affecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:56 PM
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If I had been an asshole on purpose and manipulated that girl during the breakup, I could have made her want me even more and maybe have saved the relationship and the 2 of us could still be happy. But would you be happy being an asshole? Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I am reading, I don't think you would be the type. You'd hate it, and eventually hate her and yourself. So let's rule that out. I've also met a lot of girls that I liked who either friend zoned me after a date or 2 or they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:53 PM
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Are you seriously telling me you can't see what's racist about these statements? Rhand,you have to know that the mainstream media is racist anyway, right? And feminism, like the liberal left and other places have their racist elements. However, the movement you put yourself into ( the manoshere) is far more racist than feminism would allow the average girl to get away with. And after they have come for the jews, and the blacks, don't doubt they will come for you next.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:46 PM
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It's not about me. Yeah it is. You are miserable about your kids and wife and you've let it take over your whole life. For what it's worth, I am sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:44 PM
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no you'd probably get good advice if you came there with a particular problem. I.e, you came to tbp, and said, hey I am struggling with these elements of the red pill. ie) are women truly hypergamous , b), c) and etcetera. Some of it would be satire but some would be genuinely good advice. I encourage you to try, unlike TRP, we don't bad rpers just for posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:43 PM
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what, where has she been racist, can you point me to the links, I am just missing it. Feminism has nothing to offer me as an Asian man. It is poison from root to fruit, and we need only read its seminal work, "The Joy Luck Club," which casts Asian men as the patriarchal oppressors while absolving white men of everything, to see that. What? I'm pretty sure that's not the point of the Joy Luck Club, or not what I got from it when I read it in 6th grade. What about this? http://www.rooshv.com/are-t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:23 AM
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Penn Bayliss, without you putting forth info, I can't give you examples, you better do some work to get some.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:17 AM
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This is really just to flesh out your position. I'm not really interested in BP "help", since it's "help" from BPers that almost tanked my marriage and ruined my children's lives. Well, you're not really giving me anything to work with. I asked you to tell me what happened in your marriage that made you try to go nuclear wasteland, you refuse. I can't help you if you don't want to be helped. neither can I show blue pill in action if you are convinced red pill is infallible. And well, if you thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:14 AM
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ok. But you must look around you and see that not every girl just jumps from one guy to another. So did you have any exclusive commitment with these girls, where they your gf's or just girls you were interested in? Were they extremely attractive, and had hordes of men circling around them or were they in your league? Did you express verbal interest or were you just hoping she'd notice? It could be about 1,000 reasons except that you cared more than you should. Caring is integral in a relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:12 AM
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life isn't just about an smp.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:09 AM
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yes. I do. Why? because of this:https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/379t57/blue_pill_women_do_you_identify_with_feminism_why/crme72d and this:https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/38k18i/reviewing_the_ok_cupid_study_what_it_really_says/crvosgr so yeah, red pill comes from the fees and even red pillers admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:08 AM
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I can;t help you if you're leaving out information that I need. All I have from you is I am no longer nice, or kind. I am someone who isn't me. And I no longer do anything for others. Ok. So what do you want me to say, give me more, so I can critique you effectively. otherwise, well,no cigar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:38 PM
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Wife didn't leave me because I STOPPED being 'nice, kind, myself, doing for others'. I need a more comprehensive answer. First of all, did you cheat in your marriage? How was the quality of your marriage before? Did it fizzle out? You say you're not nice anymore, what does that mean? Do you never listen to your wife? are you sure she's happier or just tolerating it? When she said she would leave you, did she give you a reason why? Did she cheat? I need a bit more to go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:34 PM
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What is trying it BP? Why did you wife leave you? What happened when that occured? Why do you think your life is different now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:31 PM
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Ok. I'll bite. Pm me about when you've failed with women and why you think you have? Because for every RP reason you give, I bet I can give you a BP reason and explain why it makes more sense. And some of it will be how you pick them. If you go to bars or tinder to meet women, well you won't have much luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:29 PM
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To try to help you guys realize how wrong you are and move to something more sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:27 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:27 PM
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What do you mean? What evidence would convince you? I mean, of course women are capable of love? if not, we would not be human! I love my brother. I want to kick him half the time, but I do love him. I sacrifice for my family. I took a year out after college when I wanted to go see the world to come home because my mom asked me to and she was really sick. I do love her. I love my dad, when mom was in the hospital, I made him food, I packed him lunch. On saturdays, I make sure he eats, I have giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:24 PM
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what imperatives? Shit if there was hell maybe I wasn't doing it right, is my tbp card going to be revoked? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:19 PM
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me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:17 PM
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Because they are so crazy, what can you do? And also, they gain some more sympathy from me if they, well actually, thought of women as people. I have talked to a few damaged RP souls and some I've been able to offer comfort and support that's pulled them away from the RP,( note: I've noticed that logic never works, love does, weirdly enough), however, as a person, I only have so much empathy and well, when they say that "Women can either go to college and be useless sluts or be chained to their …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:17 PM
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RP cannot be logically refuted. It has no logical basis, it's based on feelings and intuition, like palmistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:14 PM
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TBP is not a circlejerk, it's a satire sub,satire. If you come over to blue pill and say "I'm really struggling with these parts of the red pill, can you help me", you'll get good advice, but we aren't there to save redpillers, like my best bud J.Cole said, "some people save hoes, I'm not that heroic". We're not here to save you from the red pill. You have to do it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:12 PM
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I never had a problem with being called a blooper, so IDK what the big deal is. blooper sounds kind of cute actually, like a mudkip. It's like a term of endearment to me, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:08 PM
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I don't similarly have a problem with the terper and blooper. In fact, I just learned here that I was supposed to be offended. brb. crying in my room.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:07 PM
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me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:06 PM
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yeah. I going to call bs on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:05 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:04 PM
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Debate is not based on your personal stories, you debate based on facts, figures and logical philosophies. Source: I actually did do debate for a few years. None of the nonsense in this forum comes anything close to real debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:03 PM
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No, we do debate, the problem is it is impossible to debate trp on anything because trp isn't based on facts, but feelings and anecdota. ( Side note: I had a trper? red piller? tell me he relied on anecdata Lol.) How can I debate that? If you look through my posting history, you'll see I've written several posts critiquing parts of trp theory and stuff, but eventually I just gave up because when I point out studies to the contrary of trp beliefs or show holes in trp beliefs red pill adherents ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:01 PM
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I mean, if that's where you want to go, okay? But I wasn't really just thinking about Rpers specifically or women, the world is more broad than that. I was saying that if you have a childhood where you have no boundaries and get whatever you want and that is coupled with not giving much care about people's suffering and not having the ability to change, you'll forever be a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 09:58 PM
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what? No re-read my statement I never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 09:30 PM
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No. I'd be happy with the claim that whenever an extremely indulgent childhood meets a person who lacks self awareness and ability to change; and that bad personality is compounded with the advantages of wealthy, social power and beauty you get a person who still acts like a child and is unable to grow up, change, succeed or think about how their actions affect the outside world. The affluenza case shows us that this is not only a woman's thing, it happens in men too. and red pillers, blue pille…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 11:43 PM
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Attractive men, I still think they have a harder time than attractive women frankly. possibly but that's only 5-10% of the population. So here's the problem, when I point these views out to you, you double back and reasonably agree that white, wealthy, attractive people are generally going to get more of a pass than uglier, non-white, non wealthy women. That's why cases like these can happen, I implore you to look at the link:http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/05/us/texas-affluenza-teen/ and therefore, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 10:55 PM
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No, I am pointing out and I can support this with studies, attractiveness helps women. and attractive women who are white are more likely to get press if they are missing and be treated well. Attractive men can make money off going to jail ( hot felon, anyone?) Point is, yes society give benefits to the attractive. It always has, for both sexes. But that doesn't fit for majority of women, so you can't deal with a model that only fits ( at best 9-10% of the population).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 08:57 PM
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and the extended adolescence, doesn't that mirror what some women ( generally the only women who can get away with this are wealthy, white, young and pretty) are doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 08:06 PM
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And you don't think men get any lack of responsibility passes in this society at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 07:50 PM
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Because there's nothing I enjoy more than poking holes in the shitty logic of trp. Moreover, someone has to engage with trp and the rest of the bluepill is not, so I am here to hang out and make the points they'd probably be making. However, make no bones about it, your ideology is irredeemable and stupid as long as it's based in blaming women for everything and taking no ounce of personal responsibility for yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 07:48 PM
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No offense but I don't really know of women who have difficult romantic lives, and not all of the women I meet have the looks of models. I went to college with women who could be considered ugly and they still managed to have an active romantic life. There are these women out there You simply don't notice them because as humans we are hardwired to pay attention to attractive women and not ugly ones. I have it really good? How? Are you unbearably ugly? 5 feet tall? incredibly poor? living in a wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 07:46 PM
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and that's simply not true. Either way, you shouldn't say "women are children" argue about thee lack of responsibility in society in general. However, when you say I am a child, of course I find that offensive. In that case, you have very little ground to tell me to stop calling you terp
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 07:43 PM
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just because a man slams a woman doesn't mean he wants to marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:32 AM
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did you read that tumblr at all? and why do you think you out of all men deserve a life like "the most interesting man in the world". You know who that guy really is? not real, just like chuck norris is not real. Why not focus on the fact that you have it really really good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:31 AM
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No one would ignore other humans bleeding on the floor, but if you want people to like you you must be likeable. attractiveness helps. but that sword cuts both ways. and women feel the sting every bit as much as guys do. If you think you have it bad, read this:http://ugly-girl-problems.tumblr.com/ and then you can come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:23 AM
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You completely missed the entire point of her conversation and stagnated in your misery about being 5'6. Look, man, my dad's 5'6, he got a hot wife back in the day, ( my mom) and his height didn't hurt him. You're either looking in the wrong places or you haven't improved yourself enough. Yes, life is harder for shorter guys, but it is also harder for uglier girls who theoretically have to be 50% of the genetic pool. Men pre-select against them, they are invisible. if you care to know, this is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:14 AM
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I don't believe red pillers are capacble of that kind of empathy ladyvetinari. their wiring is broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:10 AM
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I once gave a guy my notes and tests from my genetics class and he gave me neither money, nor sex. I feel that I am a victim, men don't value me. Do you think I should start a sub about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:08 AM
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I am offended that I even saw it. You should write it as tumblr**** so as to avoid triggering me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:06 AM
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No I am making fun of you not for being emotional but because you believe in an ideology that denigrates and disrespects women, you don't deserve my respect or care, neither do you deserve to tell me what to call you, terp.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:05 AM
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no it doesn't. terper is just fine. why are you guys so orwellian? this isn't red pill, I feel like my free speech rights are being trampled on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:03 AM
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and yet still the red pill to blue pill ratio is 60/40. to be honest this sub needs blue pillers more than they need red pillers, we all know it and see tons of threads where red pillers are circle jerking themselves. and to be honest, red pillers are people who I have rarely see have a civil discussion without calling someone autistic or saying something like Women are evil, can't trust them, only want them for their pussy, etc. I find that offensive, since I am a woman. I think we should ban t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 04:02 AM
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Well in the spirit of our new PC ness, I take offense to the word ("Tumblrinas") it hurts my feefees. see my tears?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 03:59 AM
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thank you. why am I being censored where in another thread a guy says women are incapable of logical planning beyond cost/benefit ratio? I mean are you guys kidding me?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 03:57 AM
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nope. i don't mind bloop and i liike twerp. stop being so pc, isn't red pill all against that? edit: I'll raise you one. Y'all stop saying women are children and I'll cough up some civility for you. until then,thems the breaks little twerper.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 03:54 AM
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Red pill is getting so idiotic, I honestly can't tell anymore :/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 03:16 AM
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oh, all jobs are available to women? I thought we were being chattel and shit. That changes everything. I'd live in Canada with my husband. He would be a heroic dude ferrying african american slaves to freedom in Canada. I'd only see him like once every 3 months and we'd naturally have wicked awesome sex because we'd be so happy he made it alive. this of course would lead to about 5 kids. 3 boys, 2 girls. In Canada, I'd be working to set up hospitals, schools and business for freed slaves. I'd a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 03:14 AM
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fine, idiot: http://halls.md/average-height-women-height-weight/ - woman is 5'5 http://www.livestrong.com/article/357769-weight-height-for-the-average-american-woman/ 5'4 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/body-measurements.htm cdc: 5'4 and man is 5'10 http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/healthcare/a/tallbutfat.htm http://www.theaveragebody.com/average_height.php Where's your citation, oh wait, you don't have one. You just made it up. typical redpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 03:02 AM
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I can't read that page on Human reproduction, is there anyway you could copy it? Note that, none of the examples you cited prove that logical behavior is exclusive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 02:57 AM
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first give me proof of your statement then I'll give you proof of mine. I'm tired of doing all the legwork for red pillers. I mean you have google, love.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 02:49 AM
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Not true. good troll though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 02:47 AM
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explains trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 02:46 AM
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Reporting you again. Whatever you need to say is fine, but you absolutely don't need to call me autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:09 PM
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PepperAnne2, I am not your enemy here, you don't need to attack me. I've accepted my unattractiveness, why are you hammering it into me? Woman to woman here, why are you so angry with me? And why do you then turn around and blame your dating life on being black rather than on your lack of good looks? If you think ugly women of other races are getting more action than you then I think you ought to make more ugly non black friends. I've had them, and they complained about not finding men too. I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:07 PM
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Nope. I see nothing i did wrong. You are a red piller, are you not? And you ignored my caveats, did you not? and red pill does make sweeping generalizations, do they not? Or is AWALT specific to every case? When we say we need to be civil, that doesn't mean we cannot criticize red pill, this is purple pill, not your echo chamber. If you do want an echo chamber, red pill is right there. Instead you said one thing originally which proved me right, and are now changing your tune, probably because y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:01 PM
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I just want to let you know that I think this post is well thought out and interesting. food for thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:16 PM
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I love it. so cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:15 PM
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infidelity if you have no kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:13 PM
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Just pointing that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:13 PM
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Care to support that? When you support that IQ is completely independent of family envrionment and completely unrelated to lifestyle/behavior, sure then I'd find opposing stats. Other than that, I am sick of doing red piller research, you have google, do your own. The good ol' single edge case means we can't have any rules at all no matter how generally true they are. IQ can help your business and work. Connections enable you to gain a chance, but you still need acumen to deliver. In the case of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 01:44 PM
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more personal attacks. great.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 01:43 PM
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correlation is not causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 01:38 PM
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Aerobus, as usual, you are a red piller who completely ignored my caveats and situations. If I was childless, I'd chose cheating as worse. Because if i was cheated on, I'd divorce anyway. So if you held a gun to my head ans asked ( assuming I have no kids), I'd chose cheating. Does that fit your model then? You can't use such overly general rules for human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 01:38 PM
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I am still his family though. It's a tough thing for all involved. What if you meet another man who is a good dad and willing to help you take care of yourself and your kids, do you just say "nope", I will stay married to this drug addict I have not seen in five years because reasons? That does not seem very logical to me. Life goes on. And I chose to use a violent scenario because you said "marriage should never be dissolved" without any caveats. You have to caveat for extreme cases, wherein st…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 01:35 PM
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shrugs. The stats I see seem to validate my experience far more, but YMMV. I cannot argue with your lived experience. I am not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 01:30 PM
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agreed. But I wanted to also point out that if trp wanted to be taken seriously, they could definitively choose to. It's not like the trp place doesn't ban users for ( what I consider) even more minor slights such as questioning trp groupthink. If trp really wanted to get a more mainstream audience, they could easily remove posts with hyperbolic language. They do not. So i assume they agree with those posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 01:29 PM
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Oh him? Yeah, I don't understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 01:27 PM
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One word. Kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:01 AM
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I don't agree. I chose divorce is worse because of the kids. I assume most/many marriages have kids, and kids really really don't do well in a divorce. If it's a childless marriage, then I'd chose infidelity. that said, both are awful and if my partner cheated, I'd lose all respect for him as a man and as my partner. it would take a long time to fix that :/ But if there were kids, I'd still try anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:00 AM
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I don't think that's fair. People do change over marriage. Say a very good guy develops a huge drug problem that puts you and your family in danger, are you obligated to stay with him cause divorce is evil. Hell, I hate frivorce more than anyone else, just like I despise cheating of men and women, but you have to admit sometimes divorce is necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:57 AM
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divorce. especially if you have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:55 AM
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psychics are silly, but fun, just take it with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:52 AM
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hahahaha what? Maoist-man you're crazy? Which dealer do you get that stuff you're on? Tell him to hit me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:52 AM
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and I really think, that if TRP ever wants to be taken seriously, they have a responsible to police their own speech. Which TRP does, right? Ex: If you're on TRP and rant about GLO selling t-shirts, shadow ban. Or if you tell a poster than sleeping with someone's wife is not normal- shadowban. Yet, it seems a bit silly that the anti-woman talk " all women are whores", " Single mothers are evil" cannot be similarly banned or removed. To be honest, the only logical conclusion is that that content …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:48 AM
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Many are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:36 AM
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I can't argue too much on hypotheticals. I simply don't know. My strong suspicion is that the race of the person would be less important than their poverty, mental health status, and what environment they lived in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:36 AM
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yep. colorism is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:33 AM
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Are you fat? Ow. That hurt. Actually, no i don't believe so. At 5'0, 118-121, I am a bit chubby, but still within normal for my weight. I guess I could try to lose weight, but there's not much to lose except maybe 20lbs? I am not significantly sure I'd be better looking at 100, and I've never fallen below 110lbs, without being violently ill. I just agree with them, not because I believe black women are intrinsically ugly, just that I agree that black women are considered by society to be the bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:30 AM
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African and African American culture is different from white culture, but the average black dude is less of a danger to a white woman than the average white dude. he's also less likely to get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 08:59 PM
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I know a few real examples too, they are married and still happy. YMMV
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 08:58 PM
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what? no? Depending on your religion/views Your maidenhead is kept, so you can be pure or so it pleases your future husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 08:57 PM
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haha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 07:15 PM
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Its because they fear black men because of how they act. no it's more like they fear black men because of how they believe black men act.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 07:15 PM
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eh, fellow black woman here, I think they're correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 07:12 PM
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Moreover, women who can profit from virginity selling have to be a certain type of women, generally Western, very attractive, and very young nubile women. not all virgins are like that. finally, if you sold your virginity, it would kind of defeat the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 07:10 PM
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http://laughingatgod.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/bill-oreilly-at-his-best.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 07:08 PM
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The moon how does it get there?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 07:04 PM
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thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 07:03 PM
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what? This makes no sense. Good troll though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 07:03 PM
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Go where the women are. Book clubs, knitting, yoga, are great places for you to find a woman. Cultivate female friends and let them know you are available. Get in shape ( only red pill advice that really works) so that your body turns heads. Cultivate a female friend circle, so that you have many to pull dates from. Go to college, more women go to college than men so the sex ratio is in your favor. Then approach tons of women. ( one will say yes) And finally, know that big cities are your friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:59 PM
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You cannot ignore the rest of the world, sorry, women exist outside of Europe. I specifically stated my culture, it's not my fault you didn't read that. I;m glad you downgraded "all" to "most" which is less hyperbolic, but I still don't accept your claim. I think marriages can work when women outearn men and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:53 PM
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Man, this is ridiculous, I know, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:50 PM
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Not really. There is a slight correlation between IQ and some things, but many of the things correlated with it aren't that important, and the correlations aren't that significant. Sorry. that's not reality, Iq is heavily correlated with your lifestyle and behavior. IQ can help you in business/work. Eq/ getting the right connections is generally more important. Otherwise every single businessman would have a sky high IQ, which as we can see from Donald Trump, is simply not true. Your reply here …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:50 PM
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And that's okay. I put this post out as an experiment. I expected people to say what? not all men are rapists, you're right the other post is stupid. But then I forgot this is purple pill and people are delusional. I mean this is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:43 PM
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I cry every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:44 AM
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Most don't do anything, just spend all their free time neglecting the kid and watching tv all day. People today hate their jobs, housewives of today run their and their husbands' lives and most husbands aren't able to get laid on their own, which is why they are married in the first place. Lol. You're assuming that I am talking about mainstream American culture instead of mine, where the wife makes breakfast, lunch, dinner, cleans house, chauffers the kids, and perhaps manages husbands business …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:44 AM
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(Slaps head) But it's not true, I am not the same as other women. There goes your argument. Congrats for answering that for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:42 AM
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I also don't believe men should pay. However, men do pay because as Grid Rexx says, they think it entitles them to sex. Ergo, I never let men pay for shit. I am not a whore, you cannot pay for my pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:32 AM
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Also, by that argument, only women can explain the behavior of men. I could theoretically say"Men of red pill, how many men have you dated to justify that not all men are rapists?" Of course, I would not say that because that's absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:24 AM
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What? I don't have to date women, I live around them 24/7, knowing their innermost thought and feelings and understand them on more than a fuck/would not fuck level. Many women are also my buddies. As said, I can definitively confirm AWALT is simply crazy talk that can only be believed if said person is addicted to meth or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:23 AM
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sure. as long as you don't try to hamster it away like red pillers do " well that was only one guy" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:21 AM
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or you could argue giving up a job she loves to stay at home and miserably play nanny to her husband all the time, or not having bills paid because her husband can't accept that she makes more than him. Sometimes it even extends to just putting up with husband's numerous infidelities. No doubt, you'll rationalize this as AF/BB or whatever. You do know there are many ways to skin a cat, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:16 AM
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The lawyers often advise men not to seek full custody because they know they aren't going to get it. That's very interesting, but since it's anecdotal, I can only be agnostic about it's truth. it'd be nice of we had a survey about the reasons as to why men chose not to pursue custody, however, as of now we only know that men who do chose to pursue do get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:14 AM
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Not sure what IQ has to do with many of these things unless you enjoy talking about deeply complicated topics with people. Of course I do. You don't want to have deep convos with your SO? Don't want to talk about love/ politics and so on? Even more, don't you think that people who have similar opinions and lifestyles have similar IQ's? Hint. Hint. they do. Are you autistic? And here we move on to unwarranted personal attack, even when I try to be civil to you guys, I get these. I don't think any…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:12 AM
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Np. I'll link it to you tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:08 AM
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Eh. cultures that expect women to be submissive often require women to twist themselves into roles they do not quite fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:07 AM
1

give up their job, or keep their job but avoid paying bills because the "man" pays the bills,( even if he brings in less income). Not argue with the husband even when the husband does dumb things, just being generally whipped. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:06 AM
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I've never disqualified a friend from my group due to his IQ, so I'm not sure why I'd disqualify a woman from being my girlfriend. You say that, but when push comes to shove, would you be able to have a conversation with a girl who has a seriously substandard IQ, would she like what you like, could you take her out to places, would she raise your kids the way you want the kid to? Her intelligence is a factor that makes you want to hang with her. And huh, what does IQ have to do with business?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:18 PM
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right mate hold up, let me go get the thread where red pillers complained gay people are destroying their chances with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:14 PM
1

you mean a lot RP. it's like 2 RP to one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:13 PM
3

I don't harass people via PM. I prefer to do it out on the open comments where everyone can see. Because I don't give a fuck/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:12 PM
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In my culture, women say they "did it for the sake of the marriage" usually when doing stupid shit they shouldn't have to do so their husbands can be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:05 PM
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I have. Sheryl Sandberg used it to describe her late husband. She also referred to him as the love of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:04 PM
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if we're being all for traditional roles here, where men are courageous and self reliant, then let's not forget that nurturing has been considered a feminine characteristic about well forever. If you're subscribing to traditional neoconservative ideas, like red pill often does then nurturing can no more belong to men than courage belongs to women. So no, men can't raise kids, they haven't got the right plumbing. :) all in a red pill tipsy turvy world. Sorry there dude, in the red pill utopia- sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 06:49 PM
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it's a good thing no men care about comfort or have emotions!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:43 PM
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you're completely right. for example, children don't need nurturing when they are born. As the founder of this new manosphere world, I suggest throwing our babies into the woods because who needs feminine qualities for the continuance of society. Wyvern, doesn't that Kool Aid taste strange to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:42 PM
1

well, then maybe it's time to drop your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:40 PM
1

go after her. Not all girls will date shorter guys, but you never know if you don't try.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:40 PM
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I'm 5 feet tall. My father is about 5'6 to 5'7. My mom was pretty hot for her time. Sure, height can hurt a guy, but at the end of the day, 5'6 is nowhere near dwarfism. Look deep inside yourself to see why women are rejecting you. And now that 5'6 men do get married and do have great wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:39 PM
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I'd drink cyanide and slit my wrists in the bathroom if I had to marry and have sex with a guy I despised. Not all women do well in those circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:35 PM
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Black person reporting in.: Yeah doldenberg, I feel so bad that white people were not able to take us as slaves anymore. Hell, my grandma was even captured and sold on a slave ship! Tragic. And all those poor white people now have to clean their own lawns and work their own farms. I cwy every time. /s/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:32 PM
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I can't find the source, but when men do seek custody they get it 90% of the time. So yeah, default fifty fifty custody has become mostly the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:30 PM
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the husband was bound by law to be the familiarial provider (a good thing for women) Not really, husbands often beat their wives and there was no way to prosecute them. So your husband could be a great provider or a punisher. Just hope your man picker worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:28 PM
3

Aristotle also supported slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:27 PM
1

Hey bro, I had to read Aristotle in one of my core classes at school. Did you know the genius also believed in slavery? He believed there were some people more suited to be masters and others who were "naturally inclined" to be servants. Given that truth, I am a little surprised you're giving him much credibility. Let me know whether you'd like to be my slave, love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:27 PM
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haha. perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:22 PM
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Do any women feel distressed by the thought that the female emancipation essentially leads to the destruction of society and the unhappiness of several men? No, what the hell are you talking about? You sound crazy. Can you be more specific about why my rights are destroying society?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:05 AM
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Hey, I'm not the one who is immune to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 04:10 AM
1

small weird hugbox. You mean the entire world?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 03:51 AM
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No that's the trp way, just like raping and exploiting young girls, while cheating on your wife and jeopardizing the health and safety of your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 01:40 AM
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My mom has been happily married to my father for the last 25 years, that's the blue pill way. But you wouldn't know about that, considering mrp is full of men who have cheated on their spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 06:01 PM
1

Why wouldn't it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 02:09 AM
1

Ah, there is that BP RP delusion you guys are known for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 02:09 AM
1

The black woman I was talking about actually called black men "thugs" and I sincerely don't believe in that stereotype. It's really sad that some black women think that way. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 01:37 AM
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They are there, I don't know if they asked the questions on the newest survery, but the second one shows the beginning of the BP group think. I think that was the June one. RP is mostly debated here. TBP TRP is just a cesspit where collectivists confirm their confirmation bias which each other and continue their cult-like group think. It's a very narrowminded, sheltered, and toxic outlook. The rest of the adult world makes fun of people who deeply subscribe to that crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 01:37 AM
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It's probably also unlikely they'll get much sex either. I mean, we can see the college guys are cleaning up left and right, correct? But in the uneducated men bracket there are more men than women, which actually would mean that men would be more likely to have relationships, they cannot get sex as easily. So if you want to have sex and a better quality relationship, it figures that you'd want to go to college. If you want no sex, and a lower quality relationship, then probably don't go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 01:34 AM
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But don't you think trp has a specific ideology of what works vs what doesn't? And even more, what would you say to the guy for whom trp doesn't work? How do we know whether he's found a flaw in trp or he's just an outlier? Without any science, or double blind experiments, I agree that you can change conclusions quickly, but how do you know which conclusion was right? Whatever seems to work for me, seems suspect. TRP is aiming to be the answer to men who've been divorced and dis-empowered, it se…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 01:32 AM
1

Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 01:11 AM
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uh my post has nothing to do with alimony and only custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 01:11 AM
1

ha ha ha. can i use this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:34 PM
2

On top of this, red pillers are encouraging each other " don't go to college". Just read red pill advice to a 16 year old where they told him to avoid college. This will not make it easy for him to find girls or get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:31 PM
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and i think that's a good thing, something red pillers ought to be celebrating. If you spend more time with your kids, aren't you more likely to get custody in the divorce? And kids need dads, obviously, and need fathers as role models and to spend time with them,not just to bring a paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:29 PM
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educated women ( white women) in particular have the highest degree of marital stability and the lowest likelihood of divorce. Any census can tell you education has a protective effect on marriage. so there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:26 PM
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Mostly I don't care.This won't stop women from going to school or college, if anything I guess we'll start needing affirmative action for men by the time my kids get there, and we'll similarly start holding boys a year back. eh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:23 PM
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I have. It was extremely annoying. I am not shocked by these results and actually read about them in the Economist a year ago. That said, Making stuff up like the red pill does doesn't quite seem right. Biology is also having a small probably with reproducible, it has a lot to do with the rush to get a positive result, tenure and the lack of checking experiments. however, the big things, DNA, mitochondrial endosymbiotic hypothesis and etcetera are generally pretty right and reproducible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:19 PM
1

In science, the specifics do matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:17 PM
0

this is true. but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:16 PM
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Please bring them. I'd love to read all about it. And please let me know where the red pill is able to be debated or questioned. TBH, we have more free debate on TBP than TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:16 PM
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At least it is science, not "mass anecdotal data" which has no reliability or sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:15 PM
1

Thank God I am in biology. hehe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:14 PM
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** This just in! Scientist tried to replicate 100 Terper experiments, 100% failed** Scientists complained that there were no quality controls, experimental protocol, nor hypotheses in any of the so-called "experiments" , making then very difficult to test. Scientists pleaded with the president to address American's lack of scientific literacy"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:12 PM
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It all depends on the accouterments of femininity or masculinity. If I choose male, do I get to be 6 feet tall, attractive and muscled? Or am I going to be a fat guy with glasses, acne who is 5 feet tall? If I choose female, do I get to be 5'5, blonde, with big boobs and epitomize what is considered beautiful in America? I think on balance I would prefer to be male, because being male brings distinct advantages and I've never quite vibed with the whole stupid simpering, and people telling me I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:09 PM
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I actually got that from an article written by a black woman who married a white man and that was her hypothesis. Doesn't mean that she isn't completely wrong. Just because one minority person says troubled things doesn't mean you should take them as fact unquestioningly. There are some black men that say all black women are 100% fat, would you accept that statement "just because a black dude said it"? I think it's a little much to even accord "possible" to a statement that is wholly unfounded a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:03 PM
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Yep. get to it. make sure you raw dog her, white women don't get pregnant either!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:41 PM
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eh. I'm not particularly attached to womanhood. If I woke up with a penis tomorrow, I'd be like "cool", something interesting to play with. But I'm not on the whole "being a woman is wonderful" stuff. I'm mostly pretty eh about it. I didn't chose it. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:36 PM
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That's an exaggeration. Women are not disadvantaged in every way. I come form an upper middle class family which affords me a lot of advantages in life. I am of an unfortunate skin color (black) that does hurt me, but I think a white upper class woman would be very advantaged. Women are also allowed to express a larger range of emotions than men do. To be honest, except when I am dealing with sex/relationships or the top 5% CEO's/richest people in America, I think women here have got things goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:34 PM
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black men can be sensitive, sweet and kind. and white guys can be autistic assholes, trp shows us that intimately. I think I might be taking your words out of context, but if not,please don't bash our men. Black women don't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:21 PM
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i know ha ha ha. it is truly white women who do all those things! I think you need to inflict yourself on white women and avoid black women like the black plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:18 PM
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exactly. You're right. Stick with white women. They look like people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:15 PM
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Too bad there's no salary, health insurance, and we take alimony and child support! Oh what a shame! I guess you'll have to stick to white girls then!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:14 PM
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ok. Punish him for his existence then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:11 PM
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But I do, so send him over!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 09:00 PM
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no. I'd be happy to love him, cherish him, make him kids, offer him regular sex, feed him everyday, marry him, and have someone to cuddle at night. Also, since I have a low n count ( virgin), I'd be happy to give my virginity. Please put us in touch!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:23 PM
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exactly. I advise you and your fellow red pillers to stay far away from us, "we're all shrill harridan, harpies" etcetera. can confirm. am black.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:50 PM
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Ok, let's accept your ideas for the sake of discussion. Would't you acknowledge that many men don't know how to do it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:49 PM
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yes. send him my way!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:48 PM
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My guess, if it were true is this. 1) black women that marry white guys are generally of better quality. In order to overcome the bias against black women, you have to be prettier,more educated and so on. Even more, since the # of black women relative to black men is in black men's favour that means that a lot of quality black women will be left out of the dating pool, which makes them good catches for white men. 2) there's a lot of social stigma against black women, white men. Once again, I say…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:46 PM
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and probably a good thing, because it protects us from douchebags.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:37 PM
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kicked off the Napa bus! haha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:36 PM
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Yeah, but as well someone who has looked at the data, the cofounding factor is that the amount of black women/white male couples is small and nearly nonexistent, so we might see a lot of weird trends. the sample size isn't large enough to make any confident predictions. TBH, being a black woman in the dating world is a little dicey so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:34 PM
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brb. eating a cupcake. yum!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:32 PM
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your wording is weird. but yeah, I see what you mean. most people in America exclusive marry the same race and date most of the same race. of course, we date black guys. I prefer them myself. Our cultural outlook and ideals are much much more similar than well, a white guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:31 PM
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yeah, doesn't really count as sexual experience. like bbw? as a black girl, I was always shocked that this was a thing!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:28 PM
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Excuse me woman, what are you doing? Keep them away from us! We are already dealing with crime, racism and other issues in the black community we really really don't need red pillers to make our lives more difficult. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:26 PM
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nope. we are no feminine at all. we're men, ask our men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:25 PM
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No this is false. don't listen to her. Please!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:25 PM
2

hey, I heard prostitution is legal in nevada!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:22 PM
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White women are terrible evil creatures. As a black woman myself, I can assure you that we are even worse. Like multiply everything you put under white woman by four. I advise you not to date, marry or even speak to black, white or latina woman. Stick with asians, the world will be better for it. Edit: thanks to all my asian women for taking one for Team Woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:21 PM
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but for the rest of us normal human beings your view is extreme and out of touch with reality. Especially since I do say to respect the no, but then to restart the interaction later on if she still seems interested in you. You assume that only those who are autistic misread facial cues. I mean, come on, you're not being realistic at all? I'm sure you, like 99% of humanity had interactions where you misread a person's facial cues, or intentions. Why would you assume you suddenly have telepathy wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:43 PM
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but for the rest of us normal human beings your view is extreme and out of touch with reality. Especially since I do say to respect the no, but then to restart the interaction later on if she still seems interested in you. You assume that only those who are autistic misread facial cues. I mean, come on, you're not being realistic at all? I'm sure you, like 99% of humanity had interactions where you misread a person's facial cues, or intentions. Why would you assume you suddenly have telepathy wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:43 PM
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There's no real discussion to be had. Men shouldn't try to negate a woman's no's based on imagined body language, their own feelings, or a smile. Assume no means a hard no and avoid getting slapped with a rape charge. If you'd like to read more of what I conrtibuted, I have made other posts above. But otherwise, I am not going to spell it out for you, as one of the few bloopers on this reddit forum, I am already working overtime. I can't do all your work for you. Good night darling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 08:10 AM
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No it does. The girl said no. When a girl says no, but smiles, guy still push on. all the time. It's a problem. Secondly, and this is a serious problem for the red pill, why are you assuming the guys who read this are going to be socially adept enough to magically tell the difference between real no's and half no's and whatever? because in the real world where I live, men and women have a varying range of social skills. I've noticed guys often see only what they want to as opposed to what is rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 08:03 AM
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nope. go reread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:34 AM
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as an african, I can tell you that contraception is half the story. We also really like kids, we also have a different model of society that doesn't allow either men or women to slack off. Men have to prove their worth ( so all this circle jerking on the internet, is not kosher in our society). Women have to be worthy ( so we fall more conservative in principles). neither men or women are allowed to decide not to have kids. If men do not have kids, they are chastised and seen as worthless or lac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:32 AM
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Guys also don't understand that girls often smile and still mean no. Since trp is based on experience and feelings, i'll give a personal experience . Went on a date with a guy. 25 minutes into it, he's broken a few social faux pas, and I don't really like him. My brain is furiously calculating a way to get out of my situation. If there was a distraction, I'd probably like escape the other way. I take him to my school, where I feel safer because it is my sphere of influence. Smile and talk with h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:17 AM
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ITT: How to get slapped with a rape charge. No = no. please respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:06 AM
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clearly it is a post specifically about BDSM Which is a niche sexual fetish, am I right? And Bdsm does include things like consent,respecting partner no's, being safe, research, all things trp does not care about. Bdsm is also about having respect for your partner, which trp does not ( believes AWALT). So you are wrong in two dimensions. 1) as you admitted yourself, you took a niche blog/fantasy out of context and tried to apply it to ~ 3 billion women 2) you conflated trp orthodoxy with bdsm, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:44 AM
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I just want to note that this passage is from a website with an address of DumbDumbSweet, someone who describes herself as "owned wife, trying to be the perfect fuckdoll" naturally, i think it makes sense for you to take that as representative of all women's desires. Just like BBW is indicative of all men's secret desire for obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:33 AM
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I'm sure you readily admit that a woman has the fundamental right to change her mind, no? Like she is totally DTF but then isn't..that's okay she changed her mind right? Men should respect that. Sure women change their mind, no doubt. However, when she's standing alone in some guys room who she doesn't know with no way of getting out and unsure if a guy will hit her or worse, often that "change her mind" means I just decided to go with it so this does not end even worse that I thought it would. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:07 PM
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Like I said, people have jobs. Some people come her to purple pill to debate. but even I am guilty of leaving blue pill for long periods when I have other things to do. blue pilling is a hobby, not a full time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:04 PM
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Nice try, but literally no one in the history of forever has even remotely suggested anything resembling the same universe as that. Hold on. once again, a terper lies. Que surprise. you just compared pushing through LMR as trying to get someone to buy lotion. Pushing through an explicit denial of sex from a woman ( I do not want to have sex with you) is rape. How much clearer do we need to make it. Do we need to sit you down and hold 500 seminars ? so yeah, you just compared lotion selling to ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 05:16 PM
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No wonder why a lot of blue pills from PPD don't even hang around bluepill subreddit a lot. We've got jobs man and careers and exams. no need to wank to red pill 1,000 times every day. sorry we have life and pressing issues? Like I really apologize I don't want to spend my every waking moment reading text from deranged red pillers. Sorry not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:04 PM
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You're right, rape is the same as buying lotion you don't want. totally. not like rape is life changing or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:01 PM
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I never found trp to be effective advice in my own life, so I don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:14 PM
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the traditionalist, regressive women out there that co-opt feminist taglines and logic and benefit from it selectively, even though they still expect to benefit from traditionalist roles and maintain their female privilege of moral superiority, have really screwed things up too and are responsible for a lot of TRP anger. i think...... i might love you. yes. yes. yes. all the agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:16 AM
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how much have you read of the internet? because the web is wide and i have no doubt there are other resources much better than trp for men and women. And trp encourages one to assume a lot of what a woman says in a shit test. I've read through some married red pill and a lot of times a woman wants to have a real conversation about what her husband is doing. And trp either fogs, agree/amplify or stonewalls her. Sometimes a "honey, why are you acting like this?" really means a woman is wondering "…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:12 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/38k18i/reviewing_the_ok_cupid_study_what_it_really_says/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:01 AM
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eh. it's okay. lucky i got out of it and life is becoming clear again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 03:53 AM
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there are tons of relationship helpbooks, gurus and so on. Dr. Nerdlove is one of them and no doubt there are many more. one can google them on the web.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 03:09 AM
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And I would go even further, it's not just about feeling wronged but how you act . sometimes you can feel worsened but channel that into working harder or choose to move to another company where someone appreciates your talents. I think anger is good, healthy and sexy, it's an expression of libido, life force. However, trp is inappropriate with anger expression. a normal person when he doesn't get a promotion he believes he deserves, decides to move to another company which gives him better oppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 03:05 AM
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if you get angry when you don't get something, you are entitled. I agree, but I think it's not just the anger, but the fact that they put the anger on an whole gender and then act in stupid/bad ways towards women. everyone feels anger, it's healthy and normal to a large extent. But what you do with that anger is important. In my case, I channeled my frustration and lowliness into books, schoolwork and getting a degree from a great school. In trp's they channel it into going to the gym and bitter…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 03:02 AM
0

once again, see above, women are humans. dark shit happens to us too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:59 AM
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I thought RPW could help me. Instead it twisted my life and mentality so badly I'm still detoxing. so yeah, thanks for nothing trp/rpw
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:57 AM
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ABCCBSNBCWAPOCHITRIBLATIMESNYTCNNFOXMSNBCTHEVIEWOPRAHDAYTIMETVCOSMOPEOPLEUSWEEKLYENQUIRERBETTERHOMESANDGARDENSWOMANSDAYREDBOOKCHURCHCULTUREWOMAN'SCLUBS Shit ABC was supposed to help me with my problems, who knew? once again, trp tries to downplay women's pain or suffering, acting like entitled princes, as if they are the only one who suffer. Which is false. I am a woman. I cry too. I don't get magic money falling at me out of the sky. flashing my pussy doesn't pay my college loans. I worry, I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:57 AM
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and no, not everyone is miserable, but no one is perfectly happy either. at the end of the day misery is all in the eye of the beholder. I hate to do this, but I remember reading some study somewhere where they found that optimistic people were still optimistic after suffering horrible tragedies ( losing a limb/ losing a family member) as long as they had a year or so to grieve. Life is all about your reactions to it. You could be rich and famous with pussy flying at you left and right but you k…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:54 AM
1

that is awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:51 AM
1

I actually did a take down of that study months ago, you should go read it instead of spouting the same fallacy over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:49 AM
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and that's making a whole lot of assumptions. I mean a hottie at a bar might be privileged when she's partying out at night, but she could also come from a poor neighborhood or work as a waitress and have no job or hope of prospects during the day . No one would call this woman a hottie, but I think she probably is more privileged than a slam piece in the local bar. http://www.forbes.com/profile/gina-rinehart/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:48 AM
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But no doubt nermalsweater isn't having a hard time picking up or finding the woman he wants. Another premise of trp that I find interesting is this belief that all other non-trp men are either natural alphas or miserable betas or whatever. TRP only really works if terpers assume everyone who doesn't have the knowledge they do is miserable. but the thing is there seem to be plenty happy men and women on the blue pill and in good relationships who are unabashedly against trp and that makes me gla…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:53 AM
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I really like this point. Like a whole lot. Really interesting viewpoint krypto.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:38 AM
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exactly. like we go for a run. or punch a punching bag. or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:36 AM
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r/self improvement is one, for example. and they could pinpoint things they want to change. i.e.- I want to become more fit " r/fitness" and so on etcetera. however, if you believe all women are children or whores or whatever, like you're never going to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:35 AM
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is that what the blue pillers are calling it now, thank God we have a new word for it, cause none of the sad crap I've read in this forum is anything close to STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:33 AM
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I'm also just going to point out that if you're a single dude with a surrogate child and no wife/mom, all the problems/bad social outcomes associated with single moms also accrue to you. So far, I have seen studies, (I guess I could look them up but honestly, I feel like I've done my share of fact based arguments with red pillers) that show that single fatherhood is no less or more toxic than single motherhood. Also, if you have a daughter you're going to have a bit of a problem. But anyway, goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:31 AM
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They're upset men are no longer getting a free pass on everything. In the olden days, men who were perhaps less desirable would be married to some young woman who had no other options by her parents. She would be miserable, he would be happy and society would continue. Nowadays, men can't just get a girl by having a job or whatever. They have to be nice people, people who a girl wants to be around. They have to woo a girl, give kindness, etcetera. Now if a guy is abusive, a girl can leave. Now a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:10 AM
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Thank you! This is something I believe and agree with. It's not about having preferences and whatever, it is the fact that you are no better than a pharisee. For example, a guy who has been a virgin all his life due to religious reasons says he wants to marry another virgin then I agree. but a guy who has been to different countries and gotten different strains of hpv now wants a virgin... ugh. no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 04:12 PM
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You don't get auto-added to an ideology. you can argue about the philosophy, and i'd agree on that, but we aren't talking about that Don't be stupid. These girls do agree with 90% of the ideology and if instead of saying "feminism says this" you just asked questions such as 1) Hey do you believe you should be to be paid as much as a guy she'd be like yes, definitively! It's similiar to me agreeing with everything democrats believe, voting for democratic presidents but refusing to call myself a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:18 PM
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i don't particularly want to die yet dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:09 PM
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i'd say it was doomed when it started pushing ideology like the duluth model and attempting to suppress evidence that contradicted it. I had an argument with one of you about this model. it isn't even that. it's a decision whether to join a group. The stupid thing is these women ARE already part of the group 90% of the time. They just keep lying to themselves and to you guys.. Next time a woman tells you she is not a feminist. Ask her if she's willing to drop out of college, and or quit her job …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 08:10 PM
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Right back at you darling. But sorry, I don't love you enough to fuck you. I'm sure you have some other sorry woman for that. forgive me for having other things to do than repeat points i have already made ad infinitum on the web. I mean, if you want to go try rebutting everything, sure, but I hope I am not paying for your welfare darling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 08:06 PM
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I mean on your sidebar it links to a document saying women are the most responsible teenager in the house. By that logic, you believe women are inferior. And I didn't need to go through any posts to find that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 08:04 PM
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oh no, I don't think it's an ethical lapse. I was just using it as an example of a bad decision, or a silly thing to say. I was also making a larger point about my frustration with popular feminism that seems to be there to celebrate every single choice a woman makes regardless of how sensible those choices are. for example: here's a comment by some girl who is upset about feminism 's concern with sex work. " true feminism is allowing all women to do what they want to with their body, choose wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 07:58 PM
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Also, belittling other women for not agreeing with your views makes you a shitty, hypocritical feminist. Nope it does not. I am goddamn sick of non-judgemental feminism. Feminism isn't a goddamn ticker tape parade for women. It's a movement. and yeah, being a feminist does not mean I have to hand out awards to women for doing anything no matter how stupid. That's not feminism, that's your mom. If you don't want to be judged for your choices, go live on Mars. On Earth, people have freedom to live…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 07:42 PM
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Yep. As I said, you can do whatever the hell you want, but I can judge you for that. Last I checked, it is a free country. USA!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 07:32 PM
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yawn. I already answered that point. check your comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 07:31 PM
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no Lonny, you never tried to see my POV. I'm not going to waste time teaching the unteachable, I have other things to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 09:28 PM
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starvation isn't a thing? but to be honest, what I would be worried about is health. How would hospitals run if every nurse ( women are 91% of the profession) disappeared tomorrow? I know a little bit about medicine, and I can definitively say that without nurses to monitor vital signs,give drugs and medicine the doctors order and so on, doctors would struggle to do their jobs and would be able to see less than half as many patients, probably only one fourth. The other thing is we'd lose at leas…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 09:23 PM
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Lonny, figure it out for yourself. You have a brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 09:09 PM
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why do they have such a hard time accepting the fact that some women don't want to be feminist? It's your life if you don't want to be a feminist, but we have this stupid idea in our society that all decisions are the same and that just because you have the right to make a decision you are also free from criticism of your decisions. It is the second thing that irritates me. Yes, you are allowed to cheat on your husband. But hey, I am allowed to criticize you for being a terrible goddamn wife. Si…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 08:45 PM
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Here's where I got my source from..... http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2010/07/27/where-women-work/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 08:39 PM
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I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 08:31 PM
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sure
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 08:17 PM
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Uh, nope. Highly performing women are statistics too. Let's be goddamn honest about this, most men and women will contribute little if anything to the world and have little to be remembered for generations after.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:34 AM
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Barbecue grill. Stove. Oven. Men know how to use these things (myself included). Congratulations! Women also do math and chemistry, and can figure out electricity power grids if given a few days. Take him directly to the specialist, and I never said there wouldn't be casualties. Specialist doesn't know jack shit, and you don't even know if your kid has a life threatening ear infection or a common cold cause uh, no general practitioners. Even then, specialist has no time to take care of you, no n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:31 AM
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ok. np.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:28 AM
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And you don't think men have anything to do with how women look? If men favor makeup, women wear more....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:28 AM
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As I was told. Alas, what a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:27 AM
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My point is that there are less women interested in the arts and it's not because of socialization. that is simply not true,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:27 AM
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does an internet blog count as science, it's a hard question, what do you think? And correlation/causation, have you heard of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:26 AM
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no probs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:46 AM
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You certainly implied it. Sure, make up whatever implications you like. Women set the makeup standard in competition with other women. Ooooh, in competition for other women for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:45 AM
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more like a third-world country if all the men disappeared than if the women disappeared. Your point is unsupportable. I pretty much just proved that america would be like a 3rd world country if women disappeared in healthcare alone. Things I have not even touched. 1) teachers 2) secretaries 3) accountants 4)cooks 5) restaurant workers 6) cleaners ( maids) ad infinitum. I just chose healthcare because that loss of personnel from that profession would immediately lead to a drastic drop in life ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:44 AM
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Yeah, racial profiling is heavily different and quite a subject that needs more nuance. I'd be happy to send you some interesting department of justice articles to read about it if you ever want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:38 AM
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so your point is what... there were more great male writers than females writers during which time period.... because if you argue that there are more awesome male writers than female writers since time immemoriam.....um.... no joke.... women weren't allowed to write, or writing was seen as unseemly. Women in the 1500s might have been busier raising children than writing books, in the 1200s many never were allowed to read. By that argument, there are more awesome male singers and actors than wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:37 AM
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Yeah, considering most of us have no idea who she is, I question whether she'd be considered successful. I mean, yeah she's rich, but men inherit wealth too, doesn't mean they are successful. Sheryl Sandberg on the other hand.... whoa man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:32 AM
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Who is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:31 AM
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Ugh, kate. nah, she's a celebrity, but I'd argue about whether she is successful. I certainly don't consider her much of well, anything except a glorified housewife. and that example fails because royalty is held to different distinctions, I mean if Prince harry and his brother ( whoever he is) were regular men, none of their work or lives would be considered particularly noteworthy either. We don't praise royalty because of what they do but what they are. But Amal Amueddin... oh yes, there's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:30 AM
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whatever. it doesn't have to be jk rowling, you seized on one author. take any from the lexicon of awesome female writers she pointed out. hell what about harper lee, her book is on tons of high school lists or sylvia plath's bell jar, have you ever read it? It was evocative and amazing, haunting really. or even try virginia woolf, You would need to prove that ever single one of these women have made little to no impact in literature. Please prove your larger point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:28 AM
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ugh. sara. just stop there. don't put your foot in your mouth, mkay.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:03 AM
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Um, atlas, just confirmed it above, but if you want to make up and pretend Atlas said shit he didn't say... eh, be my guest. Your hamster needs a workout, it's getting fat anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:01 AM
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Good idea, don't let these guys make you do their dirty work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:59 AM
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and its kind of similiar with tech and surgery. I personally don't want to suffer to be accepted by my colleagues,
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:53 AM
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I said that America would become more like a third-world country if all the men disappeared than if the women disappeared. Hmm, I think if your healthcare system is gone( no nurses or pharmacists to dispense drugs) and you have no schools , you're pretty much a third world country. Hell, even my home country, which is considered third world, has all those things. I also forgot home health care aids are majority female, so your dotty old great aunt in the nursing home...... yeah.... you better st…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:51 AM
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A very anti-feminist line of thought. Hot girls can't be competent? Haha. I explained it perfectly above. and I never said hot girls cannot be smart. I won't defend a straw woman. Who actually thinks these women are so smart? It is called a BEAUTY pageant. yep. Just like survivor didn't pick these girls for their skillz but well, kind of along the same lines of things beauty pagents pick for. Lol, yeah, Emma Watson is curing cancer. Y so much hate for Emma? ( I cries sad tearz) And whose fault i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:47 AM
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What us blue pillers? Please show me pictures of the guys and whatever. I'd love to see what the vetting and skills tests for the girls were, I bet it had a lot to do with "do you look good in a bikini"? Edit: for reference, sara, I am asking lonny about the vetting for the cast of the survivors show he mentioned, where men did everything and women just "sat around and cried". I am pointing out that generally on TV women are required to be attractive and are held to a higher standard of youth an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:41 AM
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i answered it already in my post above. I also forgot to add, nurses and pharmacists, oops.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:40 AM
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No it's not, because as usual you miss the nuances of medical care. it's something I notice a lot with people who subscribe to the red pill, the inability to see nuances that make things important and a one directional style of thinking. Stay with me love, I happen to know a lot about the medical field, and we need primary care doctors more than we need specialists. Everyone needs a primary care doctor as the first point of contact between him/herself and the specialist. For example, say you sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:39 AM
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I agree. Unfortunately, I'd be willing to be a pair of my favorite underwear that men are more likely than women to watch survivor shows. and well, what do men want to see? Hot girls ? or competent not hot girls? Why are beauty pageant winners universally lauded despite the fact that they rarely make very intelligent statements? Hint: I don't think it is their sparkling personalities... Sometimes you have girls like Emma watson who have the whole package, but generally if you're girl who spends …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:20 AM
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Um, I wrote that medical schools have gone 50/50, said nothing about all physicians alive. Men got a bit of a head start. Also take a good look at this http://www.hschange.com/CONTENT/934/#ib2 It's an old article, women were 25% of the medical workforce and now we are 31%. Note that women are half of all pediatricians. So your kids gets sick, well, it will probably just die sans women. and more than 1 in 3 primary care physicians, so once again, sorry about your sore throat or wondering whether …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:17 AM
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Brb, let me let Hillary Clinton, Billy Jean, Wilma Rudolph, Marie Curie, Mary Putnam Jacobi, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth , Mary Ainsworth, Margaret Mead, Clara Barton, Dorothy Dix, Gerda Taro,Ann Tsukamoto, Rosalind Franklin,Stephanie Louise Kwolek’s ( her research led to the development of Kevlar vests) that they are only woman and could not change the world. By the way, without those people we would have let's see......no DNA structure, hmm, no Kevlar... and hmm no stem cells, and haha no …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:04 AM
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yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 02:53 AM
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Lonny zone, Question for you... do you think women were picked based on their skills or whether they looked good in a bikini? I am just interested, because from what I see, all the women were really attractive, but if you're weeding out for hotness, that means that you're also decreasing the likeliness of competence. Why? You've just decreased your pool to maybe 30% of the population. Give that these women were picked for how stupid they'd look on reality TV and how good they'd look in a bikini(…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 02:52 AM
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lol. I love how he put hunters..... who the fuck hunts for their meat anymore in a 1st world country?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 02:47 AM
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Doctors? Mostly men. As someone applying to med school, I can tell you that around 2007 or so medical schools went 50/50 and that trend is holding steady since. So yeah, this whole doctors mostly men thing, as time passes, not so much. also primary care doctors..... mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 02:46 AM
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see above.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 02:44 AM
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see above.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 02:44 AM
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If women disappeared, our government would partially collapse. 90% of teacherss.....bye, fertility ends, no children are made. Houses are filthy, no one cleans them. half of the doctors are gone and most of the primary care doctors would be gone as women make up most of the primary care doctors, so say you need a checkup or you're wondering if you might have cancer.... sorry, out of luck. no nurses. 90% of healthcare collapses. no childcare, no nannies. How do the guys doing all the "important j…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 02:42 AM
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Hmm, interesting question. I was reading a whole book about it because I have this strange interest in total fertility rates. The only country that has ever been able to reverse a below replacement fertility rate ( i.e., every person having one kid) is Georgia( in Russia). And the way they did it is by having the Gregorian Pope ( a huge cultural symbol) bless every third child. France, Germany , Italy and Sweden have had only mixed success. Some things that have helped a little bit is offering m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 02:29 AM
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there is no evidence of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 02:14 AM
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If I wrote "TRP's fundamental beliefs", someone else could just point "I am a TRPer and I don't agree with this and this, thus your set of fundamental beliefs is wrong". then anything I say is subject to question and I find it impossible to argue then and that's why I am a bit frustrated. I mean I do read CH and other blogs, unfortunately, I don't have time to read every book associated with TRP but I'm not sure that it would be even worth it, because people would still say if I critiques part o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:19 AM
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put some hasishh up in there and I'm game!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:17 AM
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Hey TGP, I am asking the mods to ban me for a bit, I participate here too much and it's taking a lot of time. I'll see you when my ban period ends. Pause this convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:11 AM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=paradigm&oq=paradigm&aqs=chrome..69i57.2452j0j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 was wiki wrong? because I have always heard paradigms discussed as models.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:11 AM
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Nazrath, I get downvotes regardless of whether I link my comments to TBP or not. I have authored perhaps over a thousand comments here, about 60-80 % of them are downvoted. I haven't linked all those comments to TBP because that would be impossible. I would say I have linked maybe about 15-16 comments posts to TBP. In one night, I answer about 20-40 red piller comments alone. yeah, this sub has a downvoting problem, and even the mods agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:09 AM
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If you cherrypick something out of TRP, unless a mod deletes it or it gets massivelly downvoted, it is part of it. The point here is many users won't identify with all of TRP, and many will feel unrepresented when you cherrypick certain posts and comments. that is my problem. You gotta catch the fundamentals, the core concepts wich are common to almost every user that composes TRP. My frustration is that the way fundamentals are applied is different, thought alpha traits are aggressive and chad …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:07 AM
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let them know I also took your lunch money. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:02 AM
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paradigm is a model right? You can't describe a model?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:01 AM
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there is only one definition if rape. That is not up for debate. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:01 AM
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I'm not saying you are stupid,I'm sure you're a bright guy I stand by that comment too, I was trying to be nice. What i meant there is I assume Cis has some intelligence outside of the manosphere and is not a generally stupid person, he's just being deliberately obtuse and ignoring any points that were made.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:00 AM
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What ever do you mean? Yeah, if a red piller makes a particularly ridiculous statement, i'll link it to tbp and say, whoa that was a crazy statement. I'm not the only one who does this. hell if you banned ever tbper who posted on the purple pill and linked it to tbp, you'd have no one here. And then you'd really have an echo chamber. I also link to tbp, to let them know when I review a study so that they can come over and hopefully come back to purple pill and comment. And sometimes it does brin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:00 AM
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Ok your post is really long. I am going to break it into parts, and read it in parts, if that's okay. But here the science data we'd need is on promiscuity by age. Number of sex partners per year through the 20s and 30s. Split to a good level of granularity. We could define the demographic pretty tightly this way. There is just no data. Scientists don't collect it. Not even Kinsey is granular enough. Hey I found it for you. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr036.pdf It is pretty interesting. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 02:26 AM
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I'm trying also to not let my frustration get the better of me. I know I can dish it out a lot, haha, but it seems the debate is a lot better when we all try to not throw insults. I mean, I try.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:51 AM
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Ok. I am saving your posts and holding it out as part of TRP theory. You're not in the anger phase right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:47 AM
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Ok, enlighten me. What is your paradigm?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:45 AM
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ok. So if I pull from the 16 commandment of poon exactly as the guy said it and explain why I disagree, I am good to argue about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:44 AM
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Yes. another thing I have noticed is Trpers will say "spinning platez is bessstt," , "don't tell your wife about TRP"; but a lot of TRPers especially the ones on successful relationships don't seem to practice what they preach, blueschoolprof's wife knows about TRP, in fact they implemented it together and she consented to it. Some TRPers seem to be in it for lifting, while others just improved themselves ( i.e, got a better job and got in shape) and do not practice dread, frame and so on. Then …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:43 AM
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I have been reading TRP like CH for years. My problem is I'll say something like dread doesn't work and cite an article of CH about what I think dread is and Terpers will run around and scream "That's not really red pill. I don't believe that. You cherrypicked that!" and so on, and I am left confused about what to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:40 AM
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ok. If we can all agree on this, then I'll pull red pill thoughts I want to attack mostly from this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:39 AM
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It's not about gotcha, it's defining yourself fairly for a sensible debate. if we are trying to debate AWALT and then you claim it's a heuristic when redpill sidebar says "AWALT - All Women Are Like That", whom ought I to take seriously? http://no-maam.blogspot.fr/2012/06/woman-most-responsible-teenager-in.html is on the red pill sidebar but I doubt most redpillers would argue women never mature past the age of 18. Hypergamy: Commonly referred to as “marrying/dating up”. In a dating sense this t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:37 AM
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it's not a very good note, because the u/Cyralea literally said women desire to be raped by a high value guy. Rape is sex women cannot consent to. THen in his post, he pussyfooted back and talked about consensual sex with safe words, which is not rape. His title was misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:30 AM
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I bring up red pill definitions from the side bar all the time, and I'm often ignored. Also, the side bar doesn't get into nitty gritty details like " does red pill believe in male hypergamy", it's often just a list of definitions, not coherent philosophical statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:27 AM
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me too. But I have gotten differing responses from red pillers. And well, I am just confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:52 PM
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ok. I'll play along, just wrote a similar post, myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:46 PM
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But yeah I haven't exactly seen the "Stop slut shaming me I identify as 5 genders and I'm a cat, call me by kitself pronouns OR ELSE" anywhere on here. lol. those people are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:38 PM
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Oh good. I have been trying to tone down personal attacks but ugh I hope humor will be ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:35 PM
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what about when we explain a concept to a red piller and he keeps pretending not to get it? here's an example:http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/38k18i/reviewing_the_ok_cupid_study_what_it_really_says/crvou8m What ciswhite is doing is a prime example of what we are talking about. I'm not asking for a ban but I was wondering if you have any strategies to address things like that? It cheapens the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:35 PM
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I think red pillers and blue piller should come out and state their beliefs because it is very difficult to know what to argue with red pillers, they shift goalposts when it pleases them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:33 PM
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YES! I'm a conservative, sex negative feminists that is more into issues of gender equality in the workplace, idk what tumblr feminists are doing. I have never liked them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:32 PM
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Honestly, hostility is less of a problem. I report the truly egregious guys, the rest I give as good as I get. What I do have a problem with is stuff like this. from my article:"The second danger is omitted variables. These are things that cause both X and Y separately, but which the person doing the study didn’t think about. For example, the NMP study finds that people who wait to have sex later tend to have higher marital quality. That’s a correlation. Does it mean that if you choose to wait l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:26 PM
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so I could get banned for that, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:16 PM
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You haven't changed any views yet because your studies either only confirm or are too irrelevant to the subject matter to change my view. A lot of the studies I posted are pretty relevant. I don't know what else to tell you. You lot have been an incredible disappoinent. I thought the left was better than this. For the first time in my life I was arguing against you, rather than with you, and it's been really very... Disappointing. I find you an awful disappointment too. For me, I don't want to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:15 PM
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Which it already has. People like me and a few other blue pillers have had to carry most of pp debate. Indubitably that's not sustainable. I make posts and have 20-30 comments which I have to reply to all by myself. Eventually, I will get sick and leave and then the purple pill community is even smaller and less diverse. After a certain amount of time, it will only be red pillers on here if nothing changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:12 PM
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My issue is with red pillers it is hard to debate becuase they move the goalposts and often act willfully obtuse. Like cyranea pretending to not know what rape is. Will I get in trouble for calling him ridiculous?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:10 PM
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Yep. I regularly get downvoted to 0 or negative 1 even when I am making perfectly reasonable points. Which means that, ridicules out of ridicules, I find that in my own posts, my responses are all the wya at the very bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:02 PM
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well, we're a little confused and understandably so by what red pillers like and want. For example, male hypergamy. I've argued it's a real thing. Some red pillers agree, some don't , who do I go with. If red pillers want to make "the book of poon" available as a pdf then I'd read it, but I'm not going to spend money on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:52 PM
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rape is nonconsensual. harsh sex is, well consensual. You've missed it. Do you need a dictionary definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:46 PM
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or that women are not your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:45 PM
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yeah. it was also a really intriguing part of the post! They correlated promiscuity with a different kind of attachment style.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:42 PM
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yep. Rape is literally defined as nonconsensual sex. if it's not non-con, well, it isn't rape. Or has the definition changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:42 PM
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yep. Rape is literally defined as nonconsensual sex. if it's not non-con, well, it isn't rape. Or has the definition changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:42 PM
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My analogy follows perfectly well. Heuristics only might work when we deal with short, fast paced decisions. However, they have a tendency to lead us astray. See the killing of Amadou Diallo ( heurtistic: Black men tend to have guns, killed an innocent guy) or the here's a bunch of ways heuristics can go wrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristics_in_judgment_and_decision-making
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:36 PM
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thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:33 PM
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that's not a place where you changed your view. You've always had this view. When have you ever read something a blue piller said and thought, you know what, red pill might be wring about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:33 PM
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so, q? would frottage count then? or handjobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:29 PM
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I agree with you for the most part, one tiny quibble, it seems not to correlate with attractiveness but sex desire/ childhood attachment style. In that those who sleep around tend to have anxious/avoidant attachment styles and be unable to be happy with their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:28 PM
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No what's annoying is you're not making any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:25 PM
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It seems to me you've taken it wildly out of context and the stuff you posted does not support that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:24 PM
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data I have read supports that analysis too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:23 PM
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mine or alreadyredschools?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:23 PM
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No. That was not what i was saying. and there's is not much evidence supporting the idea that men bang women commit is not an insanely reductive state of ideas. But you will just ignore that too. So whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:21 PM
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or fall into the swamp and get eaten by an alligator may be a better analogy. but you get my overall point right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:19 PM
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gross. i would never share a guy i actually liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:13 PM
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I can. You just aren't showing me anything the contributes to that. I challenge you to show me any one post where you have ever change your mind about an RP tenet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:09 PM
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Yeah. I know. :/ I just got so excited because it seemed to be a pure evo psych stand on terp beliefs but it conflicted with their ideas in interesting ways. tfw. nerdling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:06 PM
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instead as they're running they fall of a cliff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:04 PM
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yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:00 PM
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No, I get your ideas. No you don't. You've never bothered to read or engage critically with the material I presented, only the parts that support your own feelings, you can't accept that any part of your model is wrong. You need to show us something better than what we are doing now. RP commonly does this, bloopers not so much. No I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:57 PM
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I get what you are saying. You write perfectly clearly. Thank you. You just don't understand us when you write. I can;t say I really blame you.... If I read our stuff the way Bloopers read it I'd be confused as fuck too. You know what TGP, whatever, you win. I could spend my time rebutting more of your points, but what do I gain from it? I've had arguments with you that lasted three days and you still ignore my ideas or miscontrue beliefs. I'm never going to be able to convince you, you are so s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:51 PM
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AWALT- all women are not following the same evolutionary strategies. some prefer short term mating- RP hunting ground. Some prefer long term- not RP hunting ground. Women shift strategies based on environs and personal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:47 PM
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But having sex with a lot of prostitutes doesn't make you a stud. What about having sex with a lot of ugly chicks, does that make you a stud?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:55 AM
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That is not the view of RP itself. RP itself doesn't have a view of "What makes a good hubby candidate" because we don't care. Once again shifting the goalposts. I can look up posts where trpers argue that promiscuity is good/ great all the time. And you are like " I don't agree with this, it isn't true" Do me a favour... can you let u/sleuthoftrades know that? All Male RP says is "This is what you want in a wife" with "not a slut" top of that list. Seeing quite a broad confirmation of that. COm…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:52 AM
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I'm not sure. What 's your opinion? It's an interesting question. Red pillers often say high partner count/ high promiscuity shows that those men are high value but if your n is high from fucking prostitutes... is that high value?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:29 AM
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By your logic prostitutes are very desirable partners because a lot of men have had sex with them. right. these are the same type of standards you are applying to men. It doesn't make sense at all. I doubt guys who are promiscuous are fucking tons of 9s and 10s, infact, they are probably fucking a lot of girls who are much less so attractive because we'd logically expect 9s and 10s to trade sex for commitment.So guys aren't promiscuous because of high value but well, because they are lazy and ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:24 AM
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Nope. An unattractive woman who is a slut may not want for sex, but she probably won't get relationships. A guy who is too unattractive to be considered for relationships won't have the chance to be promiscuous in the first place. It doesn't seem logical or supportable to say this. If we run with the trp model, women trade sex for relationships, then a guy who is unattractive would be able to get sex by offering commitment, just like a girl who is unattractive would only be able to offer sex in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:18 AM
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That those men women who are promiscuous obviously have something about them that makes them able to twist women men around their finger. The question isn't whether they make good partners or not, but whether they can manage to make women men fall for them (who will of course then make loads of excuse why that particular promiscuous guy gal is different and truly loves her). Do you see why this is circular logic? You are confusing sex with love and anything you say of women could also be said of…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:10 AM
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I'm confused, can you give a specific claim this states? wheras much of the relevant scientific culture focuses on Positions A and B (sex causes love) Is that saying love leads to sex in reality or that scientists approach sex and love from a different way than our culture thinks about it? Can we have more context?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:01 AM
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Having a high partner count as a male is not the same as having à high partner count as a female. Males with high partner counts, while they may not be good long term partners (providers) are exactly what women want to bang as proved by their high partner count. By this logic, women with high partner counts are exactly what men want as proven by their high partner count. That's circular logic. We know that is not true. Promiscuity is just bad for guys and women. Don't want your women to sleep ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 08:55 AM
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tgp, I have gotten into explicit arguments with red pillers who believe that male promiscuity holds no risk while female promiscuity is the worst and that men can sleep around with no consequences. This disproves that. If you don't believe me, I can quotes posts for you. Why did you bold those bits ? They're great confirmations of the behaviours we have observed. That's why. I explained above. But you also tied this to women not changing around 30, but I'm not seeing the science article backing …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 08:50 AM
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Because being beta is a great evolutionary strategy for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 05:52 AM
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What ever do you mean? Promiscuous men according to evo theory can never be good partners. They have no good partner traits. They are not loyal, don't have the capability of expressing love or affection. they are impulsive and unable to be ethical. Also, narcissistic. And there are indubitably men who "could" be promiscuous but chooses not to. They'd be better partners. And being promiscuous, I would guess ( guess because I have no studies on this) has little to do with anything but a lack of se…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 05:51 AM
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The 50% of times this gene is in a guy, the gene will replicate until a point where every other guy in the tribe is also a stud who doesn't take care of his kids too, so the gene starts to compete with itself. The point, according to the book was that it depended on environment. Also, good genes had nothing, as I stated to do with studs/ whatever but everything to do with hotness and immune profile. I.e, in a harsh environ you need a good immune profile and a robust constitution. and since few p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 05:47 AM
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Wait, though. gene makes someone very promiscuous, it'll help half the time when that gene is in a guy, but hurt half the time that gene is in a girl that's not what the evo psych said. Promiscuity in men is correlated with a lot of bad bad things. It doesn't seem to be helping at all. The same is true for women. and well, it seems that strategies depend in the environmental context? In a harsh environ--- good genes are important. in a chill environs, provisioning is more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:43 AM
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What? This is even a study more favorable to TRP, I just don't get what the big deal is. And Divorce rape? What does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:41 AM
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Women aren't naturally polygamous, you're right -- but they ARE more likely to cheat, and this trend legitimizes cheating, even within long-term relationships that started non-polyamorous. Not true. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/women-cheating-men-study/story?id=13885519 Honestly, if you don't want a polygamous relationship don't do it. I am sure there are many woman willing and able to be faithful to you if you are a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:22 AM
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Hey, I don't agree with the slutty life either. and I am a woman. I think women and men who act sluttily are bad partners and life bets. However, I think men are mad hypocritical when they give attention ( and yes, sex is attention) to sluts while then turning around and saying they want non-slutty women for relationships. If guys stopped giving attention to women that sleep around, women would stop doing it. If men continue to do that, then no slut shaming will stop sluts form being sluts. So w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:18 AM
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It's really typical of you blue pillers to find and hold up that one outlier woman and say, "see! see! there's someone for everyone!!" But that's bullshit. I agree that exceptions do not prove the rule. however, my point is that women and men are made up of many disparate variables, right? The feelings, experiences, emotions, thoughts and so on that shape each women are different, so are those ones that shape each man. For example, I can say men like a girl who is attractive. but what is attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:52 AM
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If she has them (pretty much only attractive women have them, tbh) Yep. orbiters are really only for hot women, middling to average women well, don't get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 10:37 PM
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that's true but only of some women, and it's really tough to tell what percentage of women that will be in any "market" so to speak. I.e straight edge people have different ideas around sexuality than people into bdsm for example. My point is throw away all the categories and just meet women as people. If you are smart, good looking and kind, yeah other girls will want you more. If you happen to be a leader in some things, it will bring women to you. If you get overly ripped and muscular, some g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 10:33 PM
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why not just categorize by interest and individuality then?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 10:29 PM
1

???? Can some one make a concerted TRP list?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 10:28 PM
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Bro I cannot keep track of all these greek acronyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 10:26 PM
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Who is he? Was he the guy who was dating Miley Cyrus? And if I was on a date, I would not go with him, because that would be rude to the guy I was dating. And imagine how awful he would feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 10:25 PM
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we're really not. and tbh many people, at least at my school thought thought catalog was just a bunch of crappy writing about stupid things. we used to joke about it, like we'd say something stupid and be like "WoW I just got my next article for thought catalog!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 10:23 PM
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That's why it's extremely problematic debating on trp. If alfa is whatever women find attractive, then if someone has sex with a 300ilb guy, trp would think he is alpha. In reality, women's attractiveness cues are far and wide and differ based on the woman, time of day, time of month, and also the color of the sky. It's much better to get to know each woman and find out what she personally thinks is attractive than to make things up. This is why TRPers will often strike out again and again at ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 10:22 PM
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me either, but i guess it's one of the whole if Johnny Depp said yes things for some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 10:17 PM
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The point is that nothing about the guy made him attractive, he was just there. and available. His alfa stuff didn't draw him to her, she just looked around and thought well guy is here, guy would sleep with me, let's have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 10:13 PM
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but that would assume most girls are cheating in their relationships and that's not really true. and alpha genes ( dominant/agressive) are not necessarily good in every situation/environ. For example, If I'm stuck on a desert island without water or food, who would I want to shack up with ? The guy who is strong and can get me food. But in modern society? In a boardroom or living in a house together? well, I want some guy that can be smart, but also sensitive and sweet,assertive if he has to, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 10:12 PM
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I am going to push my feelings about trp aside and say I like this theory better and it jives more with what I have seen than other trp ideas. However, quibbles Would drop everything to sleep with. Will sleep with no strings attached. Will sleep with in the hope of obtaining commitment. Will sleep with once commitment is agreed on or implied. Will only sleep with for provisioning of money/resources – no real attraction (only exists for some women, many are just not interested in using men for re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 10:07 PM
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the other way round is more sensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:51 PM
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in that article I see Research in behavioral genetics is showing that things people previously attributed to socialization weren't" due to socialization after all. Can you let me know where he cited a specific study?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:39 PM
2

SUMMERS IS AN ECONOMIST.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:32 PM
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act that liberals believe that we are all equal WITHOUT any justification. The fact that there are less women than Hi. I'm confused what are you trying to say by that gif?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:29 PM
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Lawrence summers studies economics not biology, that's like an art history professor trying to treat cystic fibrosis. He did not have any research/credibility to say what he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:27 PM
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looks cuddly and comfy. I like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:25 PM
1

I don't feel sorry for you for deluding yourself with blue pill fantasies in order to justify a lazy and complacent lifestyle. In fact, I'm the type of guy that would fuck your wife while you're at work. Nope. not angry at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:21 PM
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Red pill: ask women what they want in a guy? Women respond. Get mad. jesus christ man we can't even have our own guy types. Why don't you tell us what you want us to like next time?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:20 PM
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also cute. good taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:18 PM
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that guy isss cuuuttte.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:16 PM
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yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 07:09 PM
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WAIT! Like a red pill guy? Confused at the hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 07:08 PM
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Wow. She's practicing the red pill on men. Hey, bro let your gf come on here, we need to get notes! /s What? Don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot? That's what the red pill does to women, so why is he upset?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 07:08 PM
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All I hear of are the opinions of the charicature in your head of RP which is never anything remotely close to the RP I know and my wife knows and every other red flair knows. My opinions all comes from posts on red pill and the work in various blogs. I'll raise you one, if you terpers did some decent quality control, made an attempt to remain objective, allowed women in the debate and deleted posts from guys who have just been dumped by their girlfriends, I'd make an effort to read more trp boo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:29 PM
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When a woman can look at RP and say "Well, I don't like it much. Plus look at all the assholes. But I agree they have got us pegged pretty good" well, it kinda defeats a lot of your "It's not valid !" bullshit. TGP, once again, no grasp of science or logic. If your wife agrees with TRP ( assuming she is real and she read more than the sources you handpicked for her)...... great. That proves nothing. If I think numerology is valid, does it make it anymore valid? Or do you think your one wife's op…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 04:22 PM
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When you attempted to message my wife and discuss with her how I was a misogynist asshole and she should leave me. I don't know who did that, but I didn't. And I thought your wife was not even on red pill, so how is that possible? The whole fight club analogy or whatever. Assuming you treat your wife well, then I'm sorry. If you don't, well I don't have apologies to give but I didn't do it and I doubt many bloopers were part of that. Either way, I don't care enough about you to do that. I mean y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:36 PM
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If you don't have the humility to admit that some people there are intellectually competent and possibly even smarter than you tha I went to a top school sumant, I know there are tons of people smarter than me. I mean, holy shit, some of the kids I went to school with were brilliant. I think there might be some smart red pillers who have achieved a lot in other areas of their lives and have done things that are worthy of emulation, but well, thy're just wrong about red pill specifically. They ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:31 PM
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Jedi Knights Hahahahaha. Lol. Ok guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:26 PM
1

Dante's Inferno is obscure? Jesus Christ, I know very few red pillers believe in science, but no one reads literature either? I mean I've read that book like three times, once for fun, once in school, and once in class.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:25 PM
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What I'd find funny is different than you. I tend to prefer more explicit humor ( as in when the joke is kind of spelled out) less than subtle ones. So looking at the link I find funny would not be useful to you. You can go look yourself. Humor is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:24 PM
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You going to admit your site drips with hate, What do you mean? TGP, we don't hate you, you're just a monkey in a cage. It's funny to us. Don't take life so seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:23 PM
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Nazrath... are you fat? That's tough, I'm sorry. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:50 AM
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Sumant, that's not a really applicable analogy. For you to get the joke, you have to get it, or agree with some blue pill ideals. If you're all circlejerking with red pill, well, sorry, you won't get. Blue pill is a mix too, some funny, some irritated, some informative. You'd have to go through a lot of it, but eventually you'd find funny stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:49 AM
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funniness is subjective. science, in case you were wondering, generally isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:46 AM
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Good humour at least to some degree transcends politics. Not really applicable in this case. We can all agree Chris Rock can be funny and Dave Chapelle but red pillers can't even laugh at themselves. I made this great joke a few days ago about tying the idiocies of red pill to dante's inferno. None of them got it because well they can't take a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:45 AM
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I know, so much work, so many field reports. This one dude even had the crazy idea that he conditioned his fuckbuddy to stop smoking and come to see him, when all he did was ask. The lack of logic was.... jesus christ, people need day jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:39 AM
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as we can see trp has no sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:37 AM
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I disagree Chemist. I don't hate TBP. I have had a few times in my life when I felt pure unadulterated hate and it's not something to be taken lightly. I feel TRP's actions are horrible, but I feel reasonably sure in our pro-feminist world that a woman who wanted to escape a relationship with a terper could get help from us or others. And trp hasn't hurt me or mine, they're just a random bunch of guys circlejerking on the webz. I mean, they make me chuckle more than anything. And thank God give …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:35 AM
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the 77 cent stat and the 1 in 4 stat are more nuanced than any talking point or most mainstream feminists will believe, unfortunately trp doesn't deal with ambiguities, sense or science, so it's a little rich coming from y'all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:31 AM
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TGP, in case you didn't get it after your 99 posts to everyone in TBP, let me say it for the record.... we don't hate you. Why would we? You're guys who couldn't hack it at dating, cannot have normal relationships with your wives without consulting married man sex life primer and cannot understand the meaning of science. Hate would mean there's something meaningful there and well, there's not. Sure I find myself irritated with red pill a lot but hate is too much energy, I'll save that for the Go…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:28 AM
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Aww, you guys think you're jocks. How adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:24 AM
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Just read any shit on trp, y'all arr crazy. I mean I once had terpers trying to argue with me that anecdota was scientific data. when we have stuff like that, who the hell needs comedians?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:23 AM
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there isn't. I reviewed the common data set given about promiscuity and men and the study by Jay Teachman unambiguously did not say that. He had no data about men's partners so there was no way to make that statement. Here is my review of the study. http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/38k6ha/does_being_a_female_virgin_mean_your_marriage/ Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 05:22 AM
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Those that worked, I stuck to. I didn't need scientific data. That's great, but if you want to make a wholesale claim about women and desire and men and the marriage and dating markets, well you need science.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 12:27 PM
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Not science. and don;t even try to argue with me that it is. My friend dated a bad guy. AMALT. anecdota! Hating men fits my lyfe! See you in church!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 12:25 PM
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Their strength is in their vagueness. RPT makes specific, easily falsifiable predictions. RPT is similarly vague. What is an alpha? Anything from Hitler to a guy who runs a tech company. What is shit testing? Anything from making a cutting joke, to a sort of compliment. What is hypergamy? Even the red pillers don't know. So yeah, teh red pill is very vague. Predictions derived from incorrect assumptions, no matter how vague (unless p=1), Red pills assumptions are incorrect. My girlfriend cheated…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 12:24 PM
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sorry i graduated college already. thanks tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:59 PM
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I'm was a bio major in college but not going into research cause god research can be such a pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:55 PM
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is it as good as your children's books? because if so, I lost IQ points just by trying to read that. Look TGP this whole convo has degenerated to personal attacks, in the interest of being civil, let's just leave it here. I already stated how I felt, it's not going to change. Why don't you let it go?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:50 PM
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I don't think all red pillers are insane, just misguided. You though, I don't know about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:49 PM
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Good story Greasy Pole. the next maurice sendak of our times. When is your next children's book coming out?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:47 PM
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your panties are in a twist So fascinated with my panties Villaintine? No one cares if you agree with it or not. Then why are you still arguing? I've told you I don't care about four posts ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:46 PM
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what here isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:42 PM
-2

virginal internet explorer that you never used at all? Sure. ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:40 PM
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You're right. I can't argue with crazy. I explained myself. I'm not doing it again. Stop wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:38 PM
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I'm trying to teach you how to think without needing a scientific article telling you the answer. I love mysticism, the beauty of literature, arts and non scientific things, I would never claim to create an unbiased theory based on Ella Wheeler Wilcox's the Queen or D.H. Lawrence's A passage to india. I could make guesses based on my experiences but never a wholesale theory of humans. I do know how to think GP, I don't need your help darling
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:36 PM
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Let me get my old post back up again. The scientific method is based on rigorous testing. So it's not just I went out into the field. tested strategies on my mom or my sister, but something like this I went out into the field and tested a large group of people, preferably not related to me, I did double blind studies, I controlled for other factors, population size, and co-founding variables. The investigate/question has to be done in a way that is as rationally clean and free or errors as possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:33 PM
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I am cool with that analysis. but by that same standard that we don't give tarot reader any validity, why give it to red pillers?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:31 PM
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yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:30 PM
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I think you need to go re-read what I said. I cannot prove anything against your own experiences. If someone says God is real, I went to heaven, what am I going to do tell him he hasn't? If red pill doesn't have science to back it up ( which I asked for) I cannot engage. If red pillers pull out scientific studies showing that all women marry up ( hypergamy) in every single situation or that 80% of the men get 20% of the sex, I can read the study, linger on it's points and critique it or accept i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure I said AWALT because red pill said women were all slutting up their twenties riding the cock carousel and I have not well, not. But thanks for the subtle shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:24 PM
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I think i've explained over and over why anecodote is not data.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:23 PM
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I know that. Believing in the red pill, is comparable to believing that phlogiston causes fire, both don't really make sense. Hmm, I think my religion analogy was better though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:15 PM
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ok. this is just childish. see ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:13 PM
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And for many men TRP doesn't work. Those are all subjective experiences. But that's not most important here, you know what I think you hate? Most of us, men and women want to be known and loved for who we are. With the red pill you put on a mask that alienates you from women and yourself. You cannot be who you are because you are not good enough. That hate you feel is the belief that if you showed who you really were to your LTR, she would dump you, the strain of always carrying a facade for eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:12 PM
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yeah. I wish more tbpers were here. But more than that I wish there was more science in the red pill so I could deal with it and understand it and debate it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:06 PM
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Yep. I am. I refer to it when I explain that my personal experience doesn't match up with any mainline red pill thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:06 PM
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That's more of what I was getting at. Perhaps I didn't say it very well. I do make a few slip ups when replying to like 21 different posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:05 PM
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go back home or to your wife Greasy Pole and stop shit testing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:02 PM
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pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:01 PM
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Nothing in my post makes me a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:00 PM
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Thanks to politics, all science is now psuedoscience: Damn. So ips cells is psuedoscience, hold let me get back to you, I need to email all the research I know and tell them science is pseudoscience Things like the innate differences between men and women would undercut the "we're all the same" narrative, and thus are never funded...and never studied. simply not true. .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 10:57 PM
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what claim are you trying to prove here, just so I can be clear? exactly what about smv.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 10:55 PM
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I don't think you know what science is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 10:53 PM
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this is the only study I have gotten, haven't had a chance to read it yet. will soon!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 10:47 PM
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completely unambigous experience oxymoronic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 10:45 PM
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Except your fix is wrong in all practical/unplanned situations. How can I prove to you my fix is right when your entire theory is based on anecdote? I can't, why would I try?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 10:40 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlogiston_theory Did I misspell it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 10:39 PM
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