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wonka__vision/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:44 AM
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How exactly is that insecurity? Being selective is not insecurity. If anything, insecure people are less selective in their partners. Most men have a hard-wired aversion to high n-count women. This is more prevalent in men than it is in women. That is why many women have a hard time understanding it. Men have evolved to favor low n-count women, just as women have evolved to favor tall masculine men. Men historically had no way to guarantee paternity. A man who had sex with a high n-count women c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:25 PM
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The thought of paying money to insert my penis into a hole that hundreds of other penises have already been inserted into is a turnoff. The upside to dating would be hoping to find a hole that hasn't had many other penises in. That's hard to do nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:45 PM
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It's pathetic from a women's point of view. It's logic from a man's point of view. A women who let a few dozen random men run a train on her is not going to be seen as a prize by the vast majority of men. It's about as appealing as buying a used toothbrush.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:03 PM
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That man just sees it as it is. Maybe the women is insecure about being a hoe and pretends that she can erase the past. The man might want to grow an apple instead of a pear, but whichever he decides to grow, it will be his own personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:05 PM
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Behavior and lifestyle may change, but that doesn't negate the past. A man will see a high n-count women as a hoe regardless of whether or not those n-counts were from yesterday or 10 years ago. N-count can't be reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:21 PM
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It is most men who need women. Not the opposite. More accurately, it is most men who need the women's vagina. If she didn't have a vagina, the men wouldn't need her. It's not the women, it is the vagina that is needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:10 AM
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They will gladly be used for sex by a 10, but not a 5. The ones who they are most likely to have sex with (Chad) are the ones most likely to see them as beneath her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:08 AM
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A hoe is a women with a high body count. In order for her to be a hoe for me, she would have to rack up a bunch of dudes “for me”. No, I wouldn’t want her to be a hoe for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:48 PM
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I always find it humorous when they say they had a hoe phase. It’s not like they can undo being a hoe. You can’t un-screw the people you screwed in the past. If they were once a hoe, they still are a hoe. There is no statute of limitations on being a hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:23 PM
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Do you hide your face under makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:09 PM
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The more I understood women, the less I loved them. I stopped approaching them when I was about your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:33 AM
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What do I do? It feels literally impossible to find a attractive guy who doesn't hook up. What is it that you have to offer that will make a man with tons of options want to stop exercising those options? Do you realistically bring anything to the table that he can't otherwise get for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:31 PM
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I can absolutely confirm that this place has an anti-male bias. Anything that shows women in a negative light will end up with a perma-ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:26 AM
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The majority of women look "good enough" for most men. Men are not that picky. She just needs to look "good enough" and not have an abrasive personality. Anything else is icing on the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:59 PM
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Society in general does not care about men's problems. Dating is just one of many areas where men face an uphill battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:04 PM
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And I know this, as a slightly above-average women with high reproductive value. How are you quantifying that? Most women think they are above average, which is mathematically impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:56 PM
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Women would lose a lot of power and ability to manipulate men if these men had no sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:56 PM
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Men are simple. Men want a women who is reasonably attractive, complements his life and not a bitch. The better looking the man, the more attractive she has to be. It's that simple. Women start with high (relative to men) SMV. Non cosmetic things that lower it are: Bad attitude, high n-count, age and children from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:46 PM
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last year i remember seeing a guy in the mall and it took almost everything in me not to throw myself at him lol. wonder how he’s doing :,) Chad is doing just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 10:09 PM
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I would say it is a large percentage single women. They complain about constantly being pumped and dumped and that men ghost them after sex. The simple fact is that if they had anything to offer other than a vagina, they would be wanted for more than just their vagina. Even good looking men will have sex with ugly women. It doesn't mean they want to date them. The disconnect with reality some women have is astonishing. Even the unattractive women with bad attitudes think they deserve top tier me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 10:04 PM
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If all humans have standards they want met in a potential partner, why are we all angry about each other’s standards? I'm not sure it is anger. It is pointing out ridiculous standards that don't match their own value. I can't expect to sell a dented rusted out high mileage Kia for the price of a new Mercedes. The value is just not there and shows a disconnect with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:04 PM
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The good old “you are just insecure bro” doesn’t work when facts upon facts are there to slap you in the face. That is the standard comeback from high-n women. They think there is some kind of mental flaw in a man who does not want to stick his penis in the same hole that several dozen other men stuck their penises in. I don't want to use the community vagina any more than I want to use the community toothbrush. It's repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:01 PM
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They have the option. Men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:46 PM
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I truly think that men are causing some of their own problems. While women might be more hypergamous due to social media etc, I feel like men would have an easier time getting causal sex and relationships if they didn’t basically shout out into the heavens that when a woman gets with a man, it lowers her value. On the flip side, women also cause some of their own problems. When a women is with a man who is out of her league, she will likely be pumped and dumped. She will then find another man wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:38 PM
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From the men's perspective, they feel cheated because the women made no inclination of stopping sex beforehand so they realize it was all a plot to trap them in marriage. She never had any interest in having sex with them in the first place. The common argument against this is that men aren't entitled to sex Women are free to stop having sex with their husbands... but the husband is always expected to keep paying the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:08 PM
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They needed to do a study to figure this out? Most men are sexually attracted to most women period. Being friends with a women doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:41 PM
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I don't think women should settle, but at the same time I think most women over-value themselves. Women, even ugly women, are constantly told they are beautiful by their friends. Men on the other hand see these women as good looking enough to have sex with, but not much other than that. Average and below average women all want top tier men. It's fine for them to want this but they must understand that they will be pump and dump objects for these men. I would rather an average women spend her lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:37 PM
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I have never met a women who truly wanted equality. They never want any of the downsides that come with being a man. They don't want to do the tough jobs that are dominated by men. Why do people who push for equality want more women CEO's, but don't more women trash collectors? Why don't we get rid of men's and women's sports and combine them? It could just be tennis, not men's tennis or women's tennis. We are all equal right? Why don't we have men collect retirement benefits 7 years earlier tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 10:46 PM
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Men start the wars so let the men die There are more men leaders so most ignorant people assume that men are more likely to start wars than female leaders. This is false. In the last 500 years, queens were 27% more likely to start a war than a king.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 10:37 PM
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Women are in control of their sexuality while men are controlled by it giving women ability to dictate everything that happens. ...and women know how to manipulate a man by using his sex drive against him. There is even a book written on this subject "The Manipulated Man".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 02:15 PM
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A man who can get quality will also be able to get quantity. Any women can get quantity, but quality women will get quality men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 01:38 AM
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I have a lot of experiences with men doing unrequested favors for me Those are called simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 02:56 PM
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I've had a few platonic female friends. I have found that friendships with women tend to be more draining and one-sided than friends with men. Women generally want to talk about things and men generally want to do things. I don't like having long discussions on the phone. With my female friends, I spent more time than I wanted having conversations I was not really interested in. Those friendships seemed to take up a lot of my time with little in return. They eventually faded. It seemed like I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 02:54 PM
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Men absolutely care about looks more than just not being obese or deformed. Men care about looks, but they already find most women attractive. Women almost have to put effort into being ugly. Man= cares about looks and finds 80% of women attractive Women= cares about looks and finds 20% of men attractive. Who is more shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:21 AM
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They are basically allowed to completely disguise their appearance, hiding their true level of attractiveness. ...and then this women who is a 5 but looks like an 8 with makeup struts around acting like an 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:13 AM
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But she still has the freedom to choose, which is what this thread is about. She can feel bad about her choices later in life, but she still had the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 06:45 PM
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The man, in the vast majority of cases, only has once choice. That choice is to provide resources. If he doesn't want a partner, he still has to provide for himself. The women, in the vast majority of cases, gets to choose whether she wants a career, a family, a combination of both, etc. If her current man does not agree with her choices, there are hundreds of simps waiting for her on tinder to fulfil her needs. Few women go looking for a man who wants to be a stay at home daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 06:18 PM
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Most women are "hot enough". Most men aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:53 PM
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No, they don't. If women want to have children, that constrains their future hugely in a way it doesn't constrain men The women has the freedom to choose whether or not she wants children. She can choose to have a career instead. Complaining that having children constrains your future is like locking yourself in a jail cell and complaining that you are in jail. You choose that path. The freedom to choose your future is probably the greatest freedom someone can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:51 PM
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Haha how many women have smacked your ass while you were walking down the street this year? I can think of at least 5 times where I, as a man, have had my genitals and/or ass grabbed by women. All totally unprovoked by me. Some of them total strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:59 PM
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Why would you expect a 29 year old woman not to have sexual experience ? Nobody expects a 29 year old women to be a virgin... at the same time most men don't want a slut. Most women don't care about n-count. Most men do. The only men I know who don't care are the men who would sleep with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:48 PM
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I really don’t see younger girls picking you over the younger guy. Peaking does not mean that they will attract younger women. It means that they will attract more women in total. An average 25 year old man likely has little resources and only average looks. That same man at 35 will still have average looks, but he will have more resources. He now has more of what women want as compared to when he was 25. In contrast an average 25 year old women likely has good enough looks to attract the majori…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:49 PM
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College educated people of both sexes are more likely to be married so of course college educated women are more likely to be married. The Quarterly Journal of Economics, Volume 121, Issue 2, May 2006, Pages 673–697... "Women put greater weight on the intelligence and the race of partner, while men respond more to physical attractiveness. Moreover, men do not value women's intelligence or ambition when it exceeds their own. Also, we find that women exhibit a preference for men who grew up in aff…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 04:41 PM
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Who men decide to bang and date seriously has nothing to do with looks. It has everything to do with social standing and background. You're obviously not a man. Few men care what the women they date/marry do for a living or what their social standing is. In general, men are attracted to fertility. You can pick out examples of Hollywood actors that don't fit this generality, sure. If we are using the term "men", we must speak in general terms, not a few specific men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:53 PM
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Most men are physically unattractive to most women. They may have other things like resources or the ability to provide protection that make up for the lack of physical attraction. We have all seen ugly men with extremely high social status do well with women. Your use of the generic term "attractive" is ambiguous. Attractive enough to marry? Attractive enough to have a ONS with? Physically attractive? Financially attractive? These are all different things. People often have different standards …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:45 PM
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Most women find most men unattractive. Most men find most women attractive. The average women does not find the average man attractive. This leaves most women trying to get committed relationships with the best looking men... and getting pumped and dumped because these are the men all the other women want. In the end, women are free to choose whatever man they find attractive. If they are choosing the men all the other women want, they must accept the fact that they will be pumped and dumped. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:26 PM
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But none of Hefners women is attracted to him Not physically. They are most certainly attracted to his resources. Most men are better able to provide resources as they age. Their physical appearance may suffer, but they still have something of value. Women's physical appearance also suffers as they age. Since men value physical appearance and not resources, the women looses value in the eyes of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:15 PM
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In general, women’s attraction ages commensurately. In general, men's attraction doesn't. In general, men are attracted to fertility and women are attracted to resources and protection. As men age, they generally are better able to provide resources. As women age, they generally look less fertile. At the age of 45, most men are better able to provide than they were at 25. At the age of 45, most women are less fertile than they were at 25. This does not mean that a 45 year old man is more attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:04 PM
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She has acquired his resources, which is what her goal in marriage is/was. Women can easily weaponize intimacy since they know they can get it anytime and anywhere. Society does not allow a man to keep the resources he spent a lifetime earning. Imagine if a man could stop paying for the roof over her head and the food that goes into her mouth without consequence.
/r/MensRights03/03/22 05:29 PM
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That's not the law where I come from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:01 PM
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She could just as easily cheat on him and abuse him. I don't see how anyone "deserves" to maintained at a certain quality of life. If you need a certain quality of life, you should work yourself to obtain it. Another person should never be responsible for maintaining your quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:27 PM
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Put a cap on what the lower wage earner receives in the divorce. Get rid of alimony altogether. If a man worked hard and has 5 million in assets, why should a women be able to walk away with 2.5 million (plus years of alimony) if she never worked, or earned very little during the time they were married? I get that she might have been taking care of kids, but why does she get to walk away with millions? The ability to take over half someone's life savings away creates an incredible amount of powe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:27 PM
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but in the west you can leave easily... You think loosing your house, half your life's savings, paying years of alimony and starting your life over again as a middle aged man is easy? I know many married men who are only married so they don't loose everything they worked for. Starting over again is often just as miserable as being in a miserable marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:14 PM
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Women also estimate 80% of men to be unattractive. So while an average women may rate herself accurately, she is still not attracted to the average man. Even if a man overrates his attractiveness, it does not really matter in the end because he will date women well below any false level of self attractiveness. https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/ "Yet another study, run by OkCupid on their huge datasets, found that women rate 80 percent of men as “worse-…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:53 AM
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Not upset at all. Never even think of it.
/r/MensRights01/03/22 08:05 PM
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No, the guy who gets to marry the girl is the winner, not the guy who has a ons with her. I don't see how paying for her house and other bills is winning. The other men got free sex. The beta bux has to pay for his sex. It's like having a live-in prostitute. If a women rides the carousel till she is 30, I would not want to be the man she "settles" for when her looks can no longer get hookups with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:28 PM
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Most women are not as hot as they think. Almost every women will tell you that she is a 7 or 8 on the 1-10 scale. Men have no problem having sex with ugly women. The reverse is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:15 PM
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Women: Spends an hour in front of the mirror trying to be as attractive as she can be. Same women: Upset that men approach her because they find her attractive. If women truly wanted to be invisible, they could easily buzz cut their hair and walk around in baggy sweatpants and flip flops. It takes no effort to be invisible. Instead they artificially enhance their appearance with a fake mask and often ass pads, girdles, wigs and push up bras trying to accentuate all the features that men find att…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:10 PM
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Women have a much better social support system than men. Women know they can get physical intimacy anytime they need it from almost any man. This makes being "alone" for a women much easier than being alone for a man. If men had people to talk to and could get sexual intimacy as easily as making a phone call, it would be easy and probably preferable for a man to be alone also.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:28 PM
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When everyone starts to settle down and match up 1:1, many woman are left with men that aren’t that sexually appealing, while most men find their woman sexually appealing. Many woman I know in LTR, rarely orgasm in their LTR, while almost every man does. ...which leads to a dead bedroom. I don't see how the man gained anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:12 PM
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Herpes never had a stigma until the pharmaceutical companies got involved to make a profit off of people's shame and sometimes bad symptoms. It's a skin condition and nothing more. Now HIV in the other hand is a serious issue. Nothing more than a skin condition? It is an incurable disease that never goes away once infected. It can also cause some serious complications.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:28 AM
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Men shouldn't care about body counts because men should see women as more than purely sexual creatures. Women shouldn't care if the man has a job because women should see men as more than ATM machines.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 03:23 AM
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The people who are having sex, are having a lot of it with a lot of different people. I think OLD has been the largest contributor to the rise in STDs. The men that women want to have sex with are the same men that all the other women have sex with. Men overall have lower rates of most STDs than women, but it is reasonable to assume that the men that women are having the most sex with have higher rates of STDs than the average man. 1 out of every 5 women has genital herpes and about 1 out of eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 01:16 AM
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Why are you in a relationship where you haven’t had sex in a year, rather then leaving? You make leaving sound so easy. My peers who have left unhappy marriages have basically had to start their lives over again at middle age. They lost their house and half their life savings. With so much to loose, I see why so many men stay in unhappy marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:23 PM
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We're at a 30-year low for sex Yet we are at record levels of STD rates and those rates keep climbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:11 PM
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I was thinking the same thing. I am a man and the same shit happens to me all the time. I have even been sexually harassed at work to include my genitals being grabbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:32 PM
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My main issue with TRP is the insinuation that one has it worse than the other I am not sure a convincing argument could be made that women have it equally worse or more worse than men. You might find one or two bullet points where women have it tough but when life is taken in it's totality, I am sure most will agree that it is tougher to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:03 PM
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I also wonder if part of her problem is being a biological female and having feminine features they can be difficult to mask. Which further proves that looks matter... a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:47 PM
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Getting married makes ending the relationship very difficult… which allows people to get lazy and not be the best versions of themselves. If you’re not married, both people have to put effort into actually being someone that the other person wants to keep around. Do you want the other person to be with you because they feel stuck with you or because they want to be with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:57 AM
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but "being a woman for a day" comes with more dangerous and unwanted attention than not, and this is my experience and those around me. I understand. I have been inappropriately touched several times by women, all unprovoked. (genitals grabbed, ass spanked, ass pinched, ass grabbed, attempted pants removal, physically had to remove a women from on top of me, all separate instances) I can imagine how it would feel to be a women in these instances. In my case, while I found the behavior highly ina…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:32 PM
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I completely agree with you. I think mitigating the creepy and unwanted behavior is a bit difficult to do on a large scale. There will always be a percentage of the population who partake in undesirable behaviors. If you have a solution to the problem, I am all ears. Again, the fact that I think mitigating this behavior is difficult to do doesn't mean I condone it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:59 PM
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Are you implying that being attractive and receiving unwanted attention from creepy men has to be a given? I'm saying that creepy men are going to be attracted to the same things other men are attracted to in general. Why would a creepy man not be attracted to an attractive women? ​ But stating that basically women have to live with dangerous behavior is... problematic. Dangerous behavior exists whether we like it or not. We all have to live with it to some extent. We can mitigate it to a certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:23 PM
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I feel it is hard wired in most men. Historically, a man who raised a child with a low n count women would be more likely to pass on his genes. A man who partnered with a promiscuous women could end up raising another man’s child. Magnify this over hundreds of thousands of years and the low n-count preferring men will be more successful and make up the majority. Women like to cope by saying that men who prefer low n count women are insecure. It’s not insecurity, I just find it repulsive on an in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:14 AM
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Anything that is attractive is going to be attractive to creepy/predatory people as well. I’d think this would be common sense. There is no way to be attractive to only the people you want to be attractive to. Women who feel invisible as they get older experience what most men feel their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 06:48 PM
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“because we are heavily judged on our looks and reminded that our currency lies on thinness and youth, so after a certain age we just become invisible” Women often complain about unwanted attention from men. Wouldn’t becoming invisible be a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:57 PM
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You’re right. If I had to date one it would be the virgin. I know it wouldn’t last because I would constantly be wondering why someone is a virgin but films herself sticking bananas in her ass. The girl with 40 partners would not even be even be an attractive option in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:29 PM
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Neither. Rather be single. A women who is a virgin at 28 would not typically be sticking bananas in her ass on camera. I would question her mental state. A women with 40 partners is just not something I am interested in. That one is self explanatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:12 PM
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https://www.newser.com/story/267184/women-have-more-empathy-men-are-more-analytical-study.html "The Telegraph reports that researchers at the University of Cambridge tested more than 670,000 people and found that when it comes to *empathy**—the ability to gauge how others are feeling or what they're thinking about—women have more of it, and that* *guys view the world more through a logical rules-based system**."*
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:13 PM
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I have noticed that left leaning people seem to think that everything needs to be perfect, and we can legislate our way to perfection. They want to pass laws that make themselves feel good and morally superior, even if the actual result is not good. Right leaning people seem to be more independent and find government to be a hinderance. An entity that takes more than it gives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:23 PM
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unattractive girls are cheating with filters, make up, shape wear, photoshop etc. and create an attractive fake self and this fake self will be treated as the real self and such they think they are attractive and aren't attracted to their looksmatch anymore. I don't know why society as a whole puts up with this deception. Why can a women put on a mask and society allows her to use the attractiveness of that mask as herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:46 PM
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men are known for over estimating their attractiveness, so… there’s also that problem. But a man who over estimates his attractiveness will not see real world results with his over estimation. If a 5 thinks he is an 8, he will still be getting rejected by women over a 4. His over estimation has no impact on real world results. A women who is a 5 but puts on a fake mask, girdle and ass pad and gets artificially enhanced to an 8 will be attracting 8-9 men. She will see and benefit from the real wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:39 PM
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I tried to make a new thread stating what I said above. It was removed for not being neutral or something like that. I don't know how much more neutral you can get than proposing equality in artificial enhancements between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:44 AM
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It is deception. It's so common that nobody even questions it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:40 AM
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What really gets me is women using their artificially enhanced level of attraction as their baseline attractiveness. Unattractive women get to put on makeup and play in a league above their true level. They look down on men who at their same level of attractiveness. Almost every women wears makeup in public to artificially enhance her attractiveness. A 5 can become a 7 with the makeup and hair done just right. This women who is a 5 now gets the beauty privilege's of a 7 and will act accordingly.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:26 AM
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Because that will never be published anywhere. Only men can be made to look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:19 AM
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How many wives leave husbands who can't find a job vs husbands who leave wives who can't find a job?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:54 AM
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you can't possibly believe any woman actually love you The love stops when the paycheck stops. I don't call that love. Men love women for who they are. Women love men for what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:30 AM
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How much time do you need with someone to know if you are comfortable around them? Comfortable enough to exchange potential diseases? More than a few minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:22 AM
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They spend an hour in front of the mirror trying to be as attractive as possible and then complain that they get male attention. Damn right they love it. If they didn't they would have spent all that time in front of the mirror. They are only fooling themselves. "Oh my gosh! why did I have to be born so good looking!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:57 PM
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I saw an unattractive overweight woman when I was out yesterday (mostly because she was overweight, she had the fat under chin thing like Jabba the Hutt) and noticed she was alone, and then a minute later a 4/10 sat down with her with some food. But I'm sure she feels that she "settled" for that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:42 PM
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the standards for women are practically nonexistent Having a vagina is about the only standard needed. Bottom of the barrel women will find a partner much easier than bottom of the barrel men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:41 PM
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If they are getting nailed by the guy within an hour of meeting him, they know little about him other than the way he looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:31 PM
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You're risking a permanent STD for sex? That just baffles me that people don't care. I like sex but I have rejected many more women than I have slept with. I don't want lifelong diseases for a few minutes of pleasure. I often hear promiscuous people say "But I get tested regularly". How the fuck does getting tested prevent you from getting a disease? Getting tested tells you after the fact that you already have it. Testing yourself does absolutely nothing to prevent yourself from acquiring an ST…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:30 PM
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Is there any number at which point it would be unacceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 08:53 PM
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Yes, but it is impossible to account for every variable. It is logical to assume that a promiscuous person will have a higher risk of both acquiring it and being a carrier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 08:37 PM
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https://www.webmd.com/sex/how-common-genital-herpes 1 out of 6 people. 16.7% Just because you don't show symptoms doesn't mean you don't have it. Many people carry it and spread it but don't show symptoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 08:17 PM
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You would be ok with a 35 year old that had 340 partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 08:13 PM
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Something to ponder when deciding on acceptable n-count... Odds of having had sex with someone who has genital herpes... N-count/risk % 1/16% 5/58% 10/83% 15/93% 20/97% 25/99%
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 08:09 PM
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A lot of disconnect when men try to understand why women aren’t attracted to them or what women are attracted to comes from their belief that women should only be attracted to physical characteristics. Women have an attraction floor in addition to other requirements. I think most of the disconnect comes from below average women feeling entitled to men that are out of their league. They feel that they will be settling if they get stuck with their equal. As men, we logically know that we can't rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:20 PM
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You will find most hookups are about looks. If a man looks a certain way, she will have a ONS. There will be no requirement for the man to "pay" in any way. The rest of the men will have to "pay" in some way. Dates, time and resources, etc. He must make up for his lack of genetic desirability in the form of resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:19 PM
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I think most people like to point out the outrageous and laughable... which is what FDS is. Everyone stops to watch a trainwreck, no matter how gruesome the trainwreck. When women who are the garbage dumps of society rant and strategize how they are going to lock down a millionaire 6'2" 10/10 cooperate CEO who cooks, cleans, takes care of the kids, pays all the bills... while they themselves are the female equivalent of a "scrote". The thought that they themselves are the bottom of the barrel wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:21 PM
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Hypergamy is not just about women getting railed by Chad. Hypergamy is women partnering and marrying up in socioeconomic status. A women will want a man that is above her equal. This leaves low socioeconomic status men single. Women with low socioeconomic status are not held back because men do not care about a women's socioeconomic status. Example: Bill and Sally are both 28 years old. They are both a 5 on the looks scale. Their personality is average. They both work as a cashier at Walmart. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:49 AM
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“Only insecure men care about how many dongs a woman has sat on” That one is my favorite. In my experience, only insecure men take whatever girl they can get. The confident men with options weed out the less desirable women when it comes to committed relationships. Having standards is not insecurity. Quite the opposite. ​ Most men care in one way or another The only men I know that don't care are the men who will stick their dick in anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:31 PM
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The challenge for women is making it back home after the date without being assaulted, kidnapped, or murdered. Is that really a challenge? That sounds like most of a women's dates will end in one of those 3 things. I don't know where you are from, but if this is a challenge in your world you might want to move somewhere else. Dating aside, men are 79% of all homicide victims and 93% of workplace fatalities. The outside world is much more likely to kill you for being a man. (but nobody cares abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:05 PM
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...and then complain that men give them looks and attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:50 PM
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Understandable, but men and women are attracted to different things. I am attracted to femininity, but I am not a feminine person myself. Am I a hypocrite for being attracted to something I am not? I completely understand why women have a hard time with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:38 PM
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It shouldn't, but it does. That is just the way most men are wired. It shouldn't matter that a man is 5'2" tall, but it does to women. Men and women can't control what we find attractive. Thousands of years of evolution have wired our brains to select to the best possible chance of passing on our DNA. We should not feel ashamed at what we find unattractive. You can't fault a man for not wanting a promiscuous women any more than you can fault a women for not wanting a short man. Edit: Don't confu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:26 PM
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I see posters there simply declaring themselves to be "high value" really based on nothing simply having some sort of inner confidence. They think having a vagina makes themselves high value. That is the only card they can play so they use it as a manipulation tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:16 PM
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Our market value does start declining and fast. I thought FDS women were under the impression that their market value never declined?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:10 PM
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Just another <6' Scrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:08 PM
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There is no reason it should effect my dating value It does to most men. ​ I have value as a person outside of what men think of me. Yes, but that is separate from dating value. This thread is about the sexual market place as indicated by the title. Your employer may value you as a good employee. Your family may value you as a loving family member. That doesn't necessarily mean men are going to value you as a dating partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:58 PM
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Those traits are best avoided even if she does have a low n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:48 PM
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Also, promiscuous women with self-respect will literally laugh in your face because they know better than to listen to someone who has to mold women into what they like instead of being someone who deserves that kind of woman. Why would someone want to be someone who deserves a promiscuous women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:45 PM
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It’s the hypocrisy Men and women are attracted to different things. Most men find a high n-count unattractive while most women are less concerned with n-count. To call difference in attraction hypocrisy is not painting the whole picture. I like women with an hourglass figure and wide hips. Am I a hypocrite for liking wide hips when I myself have straight man-hips? I like soft, feminine, non abrasive personalities in women. Would I be a hypocrite for wanting those personality traits if I don't po…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:39 PM
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Key traits: Impulsivity, attention seeking, need for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:32 PM
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A womans value is not determined by sex. It's not impacted by sex. Me having a lot of sex does not make me less valuable as a partner. Value is what someone else determines it to be, not what you think it should be. Like it or not, most men will see a high n-count women as less valuable. Just like a women is repulsed by a short fat man with no job. Most men are repulsed by a high n-count women. Sure, they will still borrow their vagina for a while, but rarely is a high n-count women a top choice…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:29 PM
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Men can tell very little unless a woman is purposely flaunting her past. There will always be exceptions, but high n-count women tend to have certain traits. Impulsivity, thirst for attention and need for validation are typical behaviors seen in these women. Every high n count women I know has at least one of those traits. By avoiding committed relationships with these types of women, a man can lower his chances of getting stuck with a high n-count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:13 PM
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The sluttiest women I know are actually quite ugly. I think they do it for validation. I have not seen a very direct correlation between n count and women's looks. Any women that wants to be a slut can be a slut, even if she is ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 03:03 AM
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They want men that have assets worth more than 1 million dollars. Most of them are based in the USA. 1 in 14 Americans have such assets, but they want millionaires in a country where the average worth of assets owned per person is 50k. Furthermore, the average age of a millionaire in the US is 62. Only 1% of millionaires are under 35. I am sure the majority of FDS women are looking for men under 35. The chance that a man under 35 has a million in assets is 0.08% (8% of people are millionaires, 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:26 PM
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From the limited reading I have done on FDS, they seem very abrasive, entitled and delusional. I have no desire for someone like that in my life. Despite what they think of themselves, I doubt they have anything to offer other than a vagina, if even that... which is why they are single. I have never known a decent feminine women who was involuntarily single. These women don't have problems attracting good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 12:44 AM
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Average women think average men are hot all the time. No. Average women "settle" for average men when they can't lock down Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:23 PM
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If you’re an ugly man you either need to drop out of the dating game or you need to get with an ugly woman. An ugly women will still have many more options than the ugly man. It will still be difficult for the ugly man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:21 PM
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The average man has a better chance of becoming a billionaire than becoming a Chad. Chads are simply winners of the genetic lottery. There is not much a man can do outside of radical surgery to give him the looks that women want. Although many men will face huge obstacles, a man has more control over his decisions and earning potential than he does over the genetic traits he was born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:11 PM
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Offering sex for money would actually be cheaper for the man when his time is taken into consideration. All the time saved from having to play the courtship game could be better utilized in more productive endeavors. The downside was that if she was actually a prostitute, the chances of her having an STD would be high.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:29 PM
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Trust me, it is nothing like a man's need. Men were literally born to fertilize.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:39 PM
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Idk maybe I’m Super naive but I feel like if anyone put 100% effort into finding a partner they could do it pretty quickly, no? I don't think an unattractive man could find a partner quickly no matter how much effort he puts in. An physically unattractive man needs to be extraordinarily successful before his attractiveness as a resource and security provider overcome his physical unattractiveness. Unattractive women still want at average or above average men. An unattractive women feels she is "…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:42 PM
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I think he is saying that since testosterone creates a very strong sex drive, men will find most women attractive. Since women don't feel the biological need to release, they can be more picky with what they find attractive. To a starving human (most men), chopped liver and onions would be an attractive option for dinner. A person (most women) who is not hungry will pass on the chopped liver and wait for the ice cream.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:28 PM
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A women who uses her vagina to manipulate men into giving up his resources is a predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:46 PM
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The women on the Titanic had no problem with the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:26 AM
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I have zero sympathy for the women. They all go for the same man and wonder why they get pumped and dumped. If you want the man that all the other women want, you need more than just a vagina. He can get that anywhere. Stupidity should hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:45 PM
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The response when a women sexually assaults a man is always "men do it more". That is about as intelligent a response a saying "She shouldn't be dressing like that" I can think of at least 5 times where my genitals or ass was grabbed by different women unprovoked. I also had one instance where I had to physically remove a girl from on top of me who was trying to have sex with me. I guess it's ok because "men do it more".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:48 PM
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If you don't want to be responsible for what happens when you are drunk... don't drink. I've been sexually assaulted by drunk women. If the roles were reversed and I drunkenly grabbed a women's genitals, I would have been thrown in jail. Women get a free pass when it comes to sexual assaults.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:51 PM
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Online dating is real life and can't be dismissed. It's how half the people meet these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:31 PM
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It's interesting to see women complain that there are no good options... without even considering the fact that they themselves might not be a good option for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:04 PM
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Is your name Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:57 PM
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If I am a guy and I am confused about my SMV. I just need to try to have casual sex with girls... after sufficient attempts I will notice a pattern where I get rejected by girls above say 8 and I usually get accepted by girls below 6 so I can estimate my SMV. Women only have casual sex with men who are well above their own SMV. A women who is a 5 will have ONS with 8-10 men, but she will reject a 5. One can estimate their own SMV by real world results. You can't ask friends because they will be …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:37 PM
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You expect a woman to work 8 hour shifts every single day, and also come home and clean an entire home & take care of your children just because you earn 3% more than her? Women don't want men who only make 3% more than they do themselves. Women want 6 figure men or men who make significantly more than they do themselves. I agree that if both are contributing equally financially, they should be contributing equally at the home. Women typically don't "settle" for a man who makes what she makes, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:14 PM
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These podcasts often question what do women bring to the table, and also talk about how men deserve a woman who cooks, cleans, and doesn’t have a “used vagina.” Women are not very fond of these statements. Women may not be fond of the statements, but that is not going to change what men want. Men are going to prefer a vagina that has not been used by half the local community. Men who are successful pay most if not all of the household bills. If a man is paying all or the majority of the bills, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:50 PM
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I think it's almost entirely the fault of average men for having completely, unrealistic expectations. I don't think any man will agree with this statement. Men quickly learn their value on the dating market and adjust. It takes women several years of being pumped and dumped until she realizes her value. The extremely lopsided response rate on dating apps basically proves your statement to be a fallacy. Men will resort to messaging pig women just to get a date. (Look up "online dating pig women"…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:48 PM
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What is the real reason most average men have a near impressive time finding a girlfriend? Average women don't want average men. Average women think they are above average. Most women will tell you that they are a 7-8 on the 1-10 scale. It is mathematically impossible for most women to be above average. Most women think that since good looking men will have sex with them, that they themselves are good looking. In reality, most men will have sex with most women, even ugly ones. A women never want…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:09 PM
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Women do not lose value with age. When it comes to the dating market, they absolutely do. ​ It doesn’t matter how many “owners” she’s had. It matters to the majority of men. You are unable to see things from a male perspective. You think the way you think should be the way men think. The world doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:04 PM
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The problem comes when that prospective boyfriend figures out that you are okay with other guys being in it just for the bang, as that renders the whole waiting for sex thing purely a form of chastity theatre. Truer words have never been spoken.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:41 PM
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Is that really all you guys want? To have sex? I can't say that it is all guys want but it is a primary motivator. I would not date a girl if knew sex was not going to happen or if I knew she would make me jump through hoops. I would just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:01 AM
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What exactly are men offering? ...cause I dont see them bringing anything to the table. Spend the rest of your life without a man then. Don't call a man when you need your couch moved either. Call Sally instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:45 PM
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A relationship with a women who gives ONS to other men while making me jump through hoops is not a reward. I don't want to have to play by a different set of rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:02 PM
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so why is it so wrong to also test the reactions of potential male life partners by holding off for the first date? If she makes all men wait, most men wouldn't see a problem. The problem is that she is "easy", but only for some men. If she had sex with Chad on the first date, yet makes Sheldon jump through hoops, it's going to build up resentment in Sheldon. The inconsistency is the problem. No man wants to jump through hoops to get something a particular women is dishing out to everyone else f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:50 PM
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Yeah even as a woman this logic makes zero sense to me. It’s one thing if a woman isn’t into casual sex period and makes EVERY man wait. But a woman who’ll quickly fuck some men and not others is the worst of both worlds—she IS easy but is pretending to be a good girl. Thank you for being the voice of reason. I don't know how women don't see this for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:03 PM
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It’s not that the good men aren’t given the opportunity to have sex with us, it’s just that we want to want it out. But making the good men wait while rewarding random "bad" men seems contradictory in the minds of most men. We see things differently and we have different wants and needs. ​ And yes, plenty men don’t “reward” the “wifey material” women with committed relationships. Unbelievable. I know. Decent women in general, an wifey material women in particular are in extremely high demand. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:48 PM
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It wouldn't make me feel good either, as a man. The women here think it shouldn't matter. It just shows how disconnected women are about how men feel and think.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:38 PM
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I just want to better understand you so can you list out what constitutes as bad traits? I was using that as an analogy to try to convey how men feel when women "reward" men who are not boyfriend material. A man who does not exhibit the traits of being a good boyfriend will be rewarded with sex on the first date. It doesn't sit well in the minds of most men that a women would have sex with random men on the first date yet make him wait because he has good traits that would make a good partner. "…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:26 PM
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For most men, sex is a need. If he goes a long time without it, it constantly occupies his mind. It's like having to urinate and all you can think about is finding a toilet. This is why so many men can be manipulated with the hope of obtaining sex. Most men can't obtain sex easily... only the good looking men who women constantly reward with ONS. I imagine for women, sex feels good, but it is not a need. She can go a long time without it and be at peace in her mind. The committed relationship is…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:57 PM
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She said if i wasnt boyfriend material she would maybe have had sex with me. Does the fact that she would have sex with random dudes on the first date while you had to wait make you feel good?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:48 PM
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Sex is not necessarily a reward. For men it is. If you don't believe this, you have no idea how the male brain operates. A man does not ask a women on a date if he knows there is no possibility of sex. Sex is the ultimate reason for the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:34 PM
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She wants him to take her seriously. She is being gf material A women who gets railed by a bunch of Chads on the first date and makes "boyfriend material" men wait is not gf material in the eyes of most men. I can't think of a bigger insult than a women telling me I have to wait and put time and effort into something a bunch or random dudes got for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:29 PM
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A woman who is "at a healthy weight and has a decent figure" who keeps her hair in a buzz cut (the easiest and cheapest way to maintain one's hair), wears t-shirst and cargo shorts (cheap and easy clothing), doesn't shave her legs or under her arms, doesn't have a skincare routine and isn't one of those rare souls who naturally doesn't get blemishes/dry facial skin, doesn't do anything about her eyebrows which may naturally be wisps or a unibrow, etc. etc. etc., will not be considered "beautiful…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:29 PM
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Or what if she never had penetrative sex, but did everything else on the book? I consider n-count to be penetrative sex. I also consider anything that exposes someone to potential disease into to equation. If 10 guys stuck their penises in her other holes that has to be taken into consideration. She could still have an STD without the PIV sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:21 PM
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I can “pull” pretty much anyone I want. Then why even ask the questions you are asking? If you can pull pretty much anyone you want, why are you even worried about what triggers a bunch or random redditors? I am sure your high value and confidence is attracting plenty of quality men willing to give you a commitment. Just pick one of the many 6' 6-figure guys who is waiting in line for you to give him a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:40 PM
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People commented things like I’m low value because I’m old, have kids Are you old with kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:10 PM
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Every time I commented about knowing my worth, knowing what I bring to a relationship, or having certain qualities What do you bring to a relationship? If what you bring is not what people are looking for, it has no worth as far as relationships are concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:07 PM
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your standards are too high if you're not getting any. And if it's not already clear, "getting any" mean getting sex if you're a man. It means getting a committed relationship if you're a women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:45 AM
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If a HVM didn’t put a ring on her finger then she is not a HVW.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:24 PM
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“She had 30 ONS’s but she wants to wait a month before I can have sex with her. She must really like me” -said no man ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:13 PM
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One thing is certain… A man who can provide is much easier to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:17 PM
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male friend to female friend... Want to go fishing? No Can you help me move the refrigerator? No Can you help me remove this transmission? No Can I listen to you gossip about people and hear you complain about not being able to find a good guy? Of course!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:18 PM
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Yes. I stated something similar in the second paragraph above. If he gives a committed relationship to an ugly single mom then yes, he did find value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:07 PM
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You're completely correct. I didn't correctly convey what I was trying to say. If a man sees value in a women, he will give her a committed relationship. He will still have sex with a women he doesn't see value it. If he gives a committed relationship to an ugly single mom then yes, he did find value. Many women have an inflated sense of self worth because they can have sex with most men. They mistakenly believe that since they have sex with valuable men, they themselves must be of equal value t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:57 PM
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Similar: Both involve an exchange of a man's resources for a women's vagina. I don't know any man who would marry a women who didn't have a vagina. I don't know any women who would marry a man without resources. Although there is more to a marriage, the exchange of resources for sex is the primary factor. Without this exchange, most marriages would not occur. Difference: With prostitution, you know the price upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:33 PM
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I just suggest that men today need to make a stand and not wife up single moms or other low value women. Because females today are seriously not trying to offer men shit. Completely agree. Unfortunately, the male sex drive is so strong that he will often take a low value single mom if it allows him semi-regular access to a vagina. This is why low value women have a self-inflated sense of worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:18 PM
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If anyone believes that men don't have an evolved, instinctual aversion towards investing in sluts, he is deluding himself I have said this before. I can't help my own biological preferences. The traits in women that I like just so happen to be traits that give me the greatest chance that my DNA will be passed on. I don't consciously make those preferences. The preferences are hard-wired and I can't change them. I have known several otherwise good looking women who have high n-counts. Some of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 06:01 PM
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Women who are not mothers are the most free. But as most women are mothers, men are more free. But most women have a choice to be a mother, so if she is not free it is by her choice. Having the freedom to choose is the most freedom a person can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:47 AM
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Game and personality can't make a below average woman attractive to men, men's attraction is contingent on looks. The vast majority of unattractive women are unattractive because of things within their control. Weight, tattoos, piercings all over their face. (I know I am going to get comments from the few men who like this stuff but most men don't find this attractive) Yes, most of men's attraction is contingent on looks, but it doesn't take much effort to look good. Women almost need to put ene…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 05:01 PM
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they expect the man to organize, pay for everything, do all domestic housework, serve as a free therapist (but god forbid women have to do "emotional labor"), run errands, and cater to their every whim while all they offer is their existence. If he didn't, he would be a "scrote". I have never seen a more delusional and entitled group of human beings than I have on FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:47 PM
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Have you noticed that almost all of the women who complain self-proclaim themselves to be above average? They wonder why they can't get an above average guy. The harsh truth is that 1/3 of all women are in the bottom third of all women. If a women is having problems getting a commitment from an average guy, there is a very strong possibility that she is in the bottom 1/3 of all women. "But I think I'm hot. All my friends tell me that I am hot." ...of course they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:48 PM
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Most males I know don't go through life trying to find words to be offended by. I don't know any male who would be offended by being called a "male". Can you imagine an Alaskan crab fisherman or a lineman who has been fixing power lines in the freezing cold complaining to his buddies that he was called a "male"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:47 PM
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it’s dehumanizing. “Female” isn’t specific to humans; woman is. Does your drivers license say that you are a female? Don't most forms and applications ask if your are male/female? Is that dehumanizing? Most men don't understand why such little things like this bring out emotional responses in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 07:24 PM
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I completely agree. I wasn't necessarily talking about the business/work environment but not necessarily excluding it either. There are ways to enhance your professional appearance and ways to enhance your sexual appeal. It's not sex specific. Short men are also paid less. Sloppy unkept people in general are seen as lazy. Attractiveness is a privilege few people talk about but everyone knows it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:58 PM
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I'm not specifically pointing this out to you. I am just trying to get women in general to see the other side of the coin. I often hear "why do I have to be so good looking" type comments from women. To me, It's absurd that a women would complain about attention after she spent and hour in front of the mirror making herself as attractive as she could before leaving the house. I think that most women want that attention, but only from certain men. I don't know anybody who wishes they were born ug…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:46 PM
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I struggled when dating men because many were not emotionally open A man only makes that mistake once with a women. You can't blame the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:25 PM
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Couldn't an attractive women avoid attention by making herself unattractive? If she gets a masculine haircut, no makeup, baggy sweatpants, flip flops, and has that just rolled out of bed appearance, she will probably be ignored. These things take zero energy so it's not like she has to put extra effort into being unattractive. It seems to me that an attractive women at least has some control over the attention she gets. If a women complains about attention from men, why would she take time to en…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:02 PM
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If I had the choice of the two, I’d pick getting the attention I think most people would.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:37 PM
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Oh, that sounds helpful. I'll give it a try. I didn't realize that was such a triggering term.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:32 PM
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The flip side to that for a man is being completely invisible. I think men have a hard time sympathizing with females complaining about getting attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:23 PM
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I'm not going to date anyone shorter. So you reject men for superficial reasons but complain that men only want you for superficial reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:13 PM
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Women do... unless they are approached by a 10/10 handsome man... then it is ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:16 PM
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Exactly. What is acceptable and desirable from a 10/10 Chad is creepy and repulsive when it comes from a 2/10 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:13 PM
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Do you think the men they want are willing to commit but they just haven't chosen those men? Or is it that the men they want just don't want to commit to them? When I read the posts on FDS it seems like they share manipulation tactics, not try to improve themselves. I read those posts and I know why they can't obtain what they want. There is a great sense of entitlement and very little introspection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 04:06 AM
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Do any women in FDS ever accept accountability for their own failures in dating? When a man is having problems, he is told to improve himself. When a women is having problems, it is because men are trash. At some point, a women who can't secure a commitment needs to take a look at herself and see if she brings anything of value to a man in the long term. Is simple math really. If men won't commit, it's because they don't see you as worthy of a commitment. That is because these men have better op…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 12:26 AM
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Even if someone somehow managed to remain STD free after thousands of partners, I have no desire to be the 1,001th guy in line.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:36 PM
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How does it have little to do with dating? People who don't want STD's care about n-count and therefore reject high n-count dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:04 PM
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Most ugly women have high notch counts because they can always get a better looking guy to have sex with them just not a relationship. Two of the slutteist women I know are very ugly. Their N counts probably approach the triple digits. One of them actually got married eventually. I am sure the poor bastard that married her has no idea that is his wife was once drunk on a public sidewalk pulling her underwear aside begging some stranger to fuck her. (eyewitnessed)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:51 PM
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If people feel they need to lie about it, that means that it really does matter. Everyone likes to pretend that they don't care, but most men do care about n-count when it comes to committed relationships. ONS and short term flings don't matter obviously. If you had to choose between two women to spend the rest of your life with and everything was identical except for their n-count, would you take the women who had 3 partners or the women who had 30? I think we all know which one is a safer bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:39 PM
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The better looking you are, the more options you have. If your options don't meet your standards, your standards don't match your actual SMV. The better you look, the less of everything else you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:25 PM
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A weird criteria to have when dating someone? How about not wanting a lifelong STD that has no cure. (Most STD test do not test for Herpes. Condoms not 100% for Herpes) Odds of having had sex with someone who has genital herpes... N-count/risk % 1/16% 5/58% 10/83% 15/93% 20/97% 25/99%
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:56 PM
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I really don’t care. In fact, I don’t want to know. Ignorance is bliss. I think most men who say they don't want to know really do care... which is why they don't want to know. They choose to be blissfully ignorant of their partners n-count rather than have to think about how many other guys have been in there. Does any man really want to be at the back of a line for a gang-bang?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:44 PM
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Very well written and accurate. There are only a couple of things I would disagree with... ​ Men have distorted the average woman's attractiveness. They see the 'average woman' on tv or porn, and overlook the 50%+ population of fat, ugly, undesireable chicks. Most men find most women attractive. Even average women are attractive to most men. The two most important things that have the biggest impact on a women's attractiveness is her weight and her attitude. Both of these things are well within …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 03:01 PM
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