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The latter definitely. Unfortunately boring, average women still seem to desire excitement and as they aren't internally motivated to be "crazy and fun" then that responsibility falls on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:14 AM
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Public nudity laws are in place to save the citizens from themselves and each other. There's already inane hysteria regarding "rape culture" without public nudity, allowing it would only add fuel to our already overly-litigious society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 09:06 AM
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Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel, take a gander at a couple of threads where we've already discussed this. CMV: TRP actively engages in confirmation basis TBP: Why is basing sexist Red Pill beliefs on Confirmation Bias so critisized by you guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 10:48 AM
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and lack of accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 09:14 AM
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So then men should have the choice to opt out before the child is born, rather than a woman having the unilateral decision on whether the child is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 09:21 AM
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Uhm, no, I'm not going to cater my responses to protect the feelings of people You shouldn't have to cater your responses to anyone. That's the whole point TRP makes to men, expectations of women be damned. You don't owe anyone more than the most basic level of civility.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 08:56 AM
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I think you vastly overvalue the respect we have for other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:40 AM
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Certainly, no one is above suspicion until they prove trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:36 AM
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Probably just a coincidence, but it seems that the different pill designations seem roughly analogous to the colors for the different Lantern Corps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:02 AM
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To answer the titular question: Why do TRPillers insist that women shouldn't be attracted to looks? The only ones that shouldn't are the body positive sort but I think we all know that they are completely hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 09:14 AM
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I see. Even then it seems that the two are trying to make the case that women don't objectively see the "beauty" in a man, or even subjectively related to physical features and preferences as men do in women but develop a sense that a man is attractive to them based solely on how he makes them feel. It's an interesting concept but not one that I'd feel comfortable backing at this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 08:35 AM
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Where is it said that TRP insists women should or shouldn't do anything? 1- it's a subreddit that describes the general actions of women as is. Then tells men the best way to use these actions and tendencies to their advantage. 2- It's a subreddit specifically for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 08:06 AM
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I'd say objectively she's an 8-9, however personal taste largely overshadows this. For me personally she comes across as a 6 because I don't care for white women and she is too petite for my tastes. I might bump it up to a 7 for the large eyes and dark hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 08:03 AM
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When they try? That's their choice. It's my choice whether I choose to tolerate that behavior. There are a great many things I don't like, but that doesn't matter- ruminating on something I can't change is foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:52 AM
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This has been documented before. An essential characteristic of those TRP would define as blue pill (not the sub) is not taking responsibility for themselves and finding any outside source to blame for their situations/problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:41 AM
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If reality is a constant, why is it different for everyone? Because not everyone has the same cognitive capabilities and the experiences as you describe affect the perceptions of the individual. Birds fly and fish swim- that's all they know. Do they somehow change reality? Have they altered the laws of physics?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 05:05 AM
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having a conscience and being just a little bit empathetic Your attempt at shaming is noted and welcomed. Apparently it's only offensive when it's directed towards women (particularly sluts). The best kind of correct, Mr. Conrad. Don't get the reference but But most people don't get together based on ___ alone. Works for most anything, thus... meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 05:01 AM
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Try autism or Asperger syndrome. No thanks. Is the latter even a thing anymore? Now IF CHS, Nancy friday etc had held sway and ASD guys hadn't been thrust into the scapegoat role... No idea what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 04:55 AM
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It could account for many of them, as the more likely situation is that they have a low SMV and they are unwilling to take the necessary steps to improve that- that's how the description of stage three MGTOWs comes across. The other way to look at that however is that the joys/comfort they get from their incel lifestyle are preferable to the work required to improve their SMV. Otherwise, conceptualize a man who grew up a stereotypical neckbeard, found TRP and actually took the time to dress bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 09:03 AM
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First, you cannot give any more fucks about how other people see/judge you. That leads to a mindset where you will be afraid to act and hold frame if it seems like "something a cripple should not be able/allowed to do". In my opinion one of the best responses in this thread. In a dating context most of the obstacles we perceive exist only in our heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 08:17 AM
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Reality is the perception. You have it backwards, our perceptions shape our view of reality. We unconsciously digest the information we detect which either confirms or refutes our previous notions. Coincidences are just that. I'll give you an example that I am pretty sure you will be able to tie to something that has happened in your own life. The situation is plausible, the connection isn't at all. That is precisely what I'm talking about: magical thinking. Your perception that the causation of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 07:44 AM
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Your negging is noted, but I'm taken. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 07:30 AM
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Those who are entertained and motivated with snark and one-liners are rarely concerned about the intended message- only how they can manipulate it for entertainment. They are buffoons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 07:23 AM
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What I am saying is that your expectations create your true experience I get what you're saying, but the only way we alter reality to fit our expectations is via hamstering, to use the local term. Anyone can lie to his/herself and after long enough truly believe them. Keeping in mind that to some degree it's also possible to misread cues and attribute something that happens to an incorrect cause, and of course our expectations can alter our choices but reality doesn't bend to our whims- only our…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 07:21 AM
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I didn't say you were (again, comprehension- I can limit my syllables for you in the future). Just a reminder that this isn't TBP, and I'm not impressed or motivated to reply by snark and internet lingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 06:59 AM
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If that's what you got from my reply then you really, really need to work on reading comprehension. I can't reasonably believe that public school in Australia is that far behind the abysmal state it's in in the U.S., but you're making a case for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 06:41 AM
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What's the purpose of life in your opinion? The purpose of life is survival, however in the first world that's not a worry for the majority. Aside from that, there is no purpose. We ultimately create our own reality.... I agree with the first sentence and I don't think those outside of masochists (using the term loosely) seek out poor experiences and that ideals are overly positive as opposed to being negative. That ideals are compromised with the complications that arise from reality is a commo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 06:37 AM
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But how is that different from any other preference? Some people don't want to date people of other races, some people don't want to date fat people, or short people, or the mentally handicapped. It's not shaming, it's simply a preference as others have said. Your poor self esteem made you feel ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 06:04 AM
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Never heard this to the point where it could be attributable to a whole category of people within my groups of friends. I've never heard anything similar during my school years either but now in my 30s there's little chance that I'd want anything to do with virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 06:00 AM
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Anyone else encounter this? I didn't have sex until I was 20 and in the military. I'd had a couple of girlfriends and orbited several more over the time from puberty to graduation but was too beta/needy at the time to be a worthwhile boyfriend. In my peer group there was always virgin-shaming from other guys if the topic came up. In retrospect, I'd have chosen the opposite course: assuming I'd been cognizant enough to use protection I'd prefer to have lost my virginity before I'd had time to rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 05:58 AM
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You don't believe in love? I believe in "love" like I believe in "happiness": feelings that are consequences of chemicals in our brains. They are fleeting and still occur because they push us to procreate. We all crave to feel something so deeply it changes who we are.... Perhaps, but as children we also entertain notions of rabbits leaving us chocolate and fairies paying for baby teeth. Just because people grow to adulthood doesn't mean their beliefs and desires are any more rooted in reality. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 05:51 AM
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Yes that's why I don't know why TRP is built on the idea that all women share the same ideas and beliefs and behaviors. Because we see (based on our own experiences and aggregated data in the form of not only TRP field reports but also similar accounts across the manosphere and in talking male peers) these behaviors. The severity of the behaviors is the only thing up for debate. They certainly exist minimally for the majority. Are there other, nicer assumptions that could also be made? Absolutel…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 05:36 AM
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Are there certain people that crack you open and you don't really have control over how you feel about them? We all have "buttons" that can be pressed. Everyone is vulnerable to manipulation, whether it is intentional or not. The danger is misinterpreting someone's ability to manipulate you as being an indication that you are somehow linked by imaginary notions like love or fate. They fall to magical thinking and completely disregard reality. I used to think it was involuntary with some people. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:39 AM
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Understood and women don't suck per se (taking the high road on this one). Many of them have tendencies for behaviors we wouldn't tolerate in other men. I think that's likely the majority of it. I can't speak for women but the longer you live and the more you interact with people you realize that it is foolish to assume that most people are like you or share your ideas and beliefs (a reason the "Golden Rule" has been mostly replaced by the "Platinum Rule") however when you're young it's easy to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:32 AM
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There are still feelings, and letting go still sucks but just as you have to have enough willpower to keep eating right and exercising you also have to learn to control how much you're willing to leave yourself open emotionally to another person. It takes practice. Analogy time: I see opening up completely as emotional gluttony. You get those feels and you want more and more of them, and to a stronger degree. Thus you leave yourself open to harm as the obese do with their health. Over time you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:19 AM
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understood, and agreed- was in a hurry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:13 AM
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Letting TRPers forget that the world hates them and is brutally against them Even without the MRA tagged topics not a day goes by that there isn't a reminder that men get a raw deal in the dating arena- it's part and parcel of almost every post. Again, TRP is described as an area to help men realize their sexual goals. MRAs are ineffective and come off as "whiners." They don't even make the progress that bat-shit insane feminists do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:12 AM
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I feel like it's a main selling point of TRP - women are just inherently untrustworthy, whereas men are simply "primal beings". I have no idea what you are talking about with "primal beings." Sounds like some New Age BS. As far as trustworthiness in the context of a LTR, you can never fully trust a woman, but you can trust a woman to be a woman (i.e. Briffault's and hypergamy). Having said that, it's a safe bet although it is setting the bar very low, low enough that better women may surprise yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:06 AM
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Jesus all those ONS's would be more work than just sustaining one LTR It's really not. With ONSs and FWBs they don't see you enough to get over the "newness." You're perpetually in the pre-honeymoon phase and once the "honeymoon is over" so to speak you just next them. I've found it's almost always better to "next" someone you've begun having to make compromises with rather than consistently settle (even if both of you have to).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 03:51 AM
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Let me go ahead and correct dragoness_leclerq's statement so it's not (yet another) strawman: The effort I've put forth to improve my SMV has various applications. While hitting the gym and being more active helps to improve attractiveness it also improves my health and most other leisure activities I have. Continuing education helps me make more money (certifications, etc) that improve my SMV, but it also helps me improve job performance. In a nutshell, the effort I'm willing to expend has to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 03:47 AM
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That's a very naive viewpoint. Husbands are involved in this as well. How does this negate the risk? The fact is 72% of women file for divorce regardless of who did what. The fault doesn't need to be unilateral. The action taken is largely unilateral, and the man doesn't have a choice if his wife files for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:28 AM
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I want to know if men literally just want to have sex with as many attractive women as possible or if there is some sort of cut off? What is the goal? Personally, my goal is to have sex with a variety of different women, at my leisure, without the effort required to maintain a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:00 AM
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How are men that sleep around "a lot" better eventual partners than women who sleep around "a lot"? Other than the requirement to be skilled sexually whereas women only need to be available, I'm not entirely sure sleeping around is a mark of quality for anyone as far as relationship value goes. How are men any more in control of their impulses to cheat or just overall better relationship material than women, given the same history? I missed where this has been asserted. To follow the thought tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:27 AM
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I'm still not seeing a complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:07 AM
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Yes, I see- when you can't out-think someone you just edit to appear less the buffoon. High quality modding, there, m8.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 09:39 AM
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I was hoping you'd bite on that. They didn't rate themselves at all in this particular occurrence. So, do you always prefer to be contrary or are you just another admirer?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 09:19 AM
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red pillers seem to think that a high sexual partner count is attractive in a man That's because it has been seen time and again that social proof is important to women. It explains why men get hit on/flirted with much more often when they are already in a relationship/married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 08:00 AM
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Just a quick question, does your definition of "shaming" include every description that isn't completely positive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 07:54 AM
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What age did you begin weight lifting? What was your height and weight at your most unhealthy? What "miraculous benefits" were you told you'd encounter? You've spent more time describing your time lifting than what you claim you'd expected to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 07:15 AM
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I always saw TBP'ers as similar to the "Puppy Bowl." Softer, cuter, kinder and free of the harsh reality of real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:56 AM
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Coddling men in the "anger phase" by allowing them to freely rant. It may be necessary, but it isn't constructive and IMO should have its own subreddit. MRA topics- the point of TRP isn't to change society, but to become successful despite society. Any and all threads pointing out alpha, beta, etc influences, examples, and behaviors from movies, television, books- any fictional source.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:52 AM
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Where would a person find this information in the pre Internet age? Books if you were too squeamish to approach another person; mature men who appear to be successful with women if you weren't afraid of speaking to strangers I think you basically had to be lucky and have a player uncle or something to teach you this stuff back then. That would have been easier, certainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:14 AM
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I only read the OP, but I missed the part where he complained about it. All I read was his fervent questioning to BPers of the phenomenon he's noticed which flies in the face of commonly-asserted characteristics of women. Would you quote the part that is complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:11 AM
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Women's inability to rate themselves accurately is just another sign of their immaturity, reinforcing the notion that they are the "most responsible teenagers in the house." The simply lack the ego integrity to be truthful with themselves. It is expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:07 AM
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The bottom line is one works and the other does not. The difference between how non-TRP males have been successful with women and how TRP-minded males have been successful with women is that the latter group has to at least start out being mindful of the tactics they use until the point that "the game" becomes second nature, whereas the former group have naturally come by their own tactics. The strategies themselves serve the same purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 06:05 AM
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"Can men and women be just friends? In many cases, the answer is no."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 09:12 AM
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First off, it's a platitude which I know blue pillers love and revere, but they are not descriptive enough to be helpful. Secondly, many aspects of PUA tactics and RP's prescription of them aren't "nice" (negging; dread game, strategies for overcoming various shit tests) but they are very effective in assisting men to get sex from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 09:00 AM
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No one in your life could have given you decent advice That's simply not true. From TRP's sidebar the information available has been out there for sometimes hundreds of years. It just isn't (now, nor will it likely ever be) socially acceptable. That doesn't mean it isn't available, or that the wisdom behind it isn't more widely known than is ever mentioned in polite society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 08:55 AM
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I'd hardly call TRP a crash course. You have to realize that no BP'er has the understanding of TRP that someone who has immersed himself in it does and as such they rely on their imagined, Bogeyman-esque idea of TRP as presented at TBP. It would be similar to an astronomer and astrologer having a conversation about the stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 08:08 AM
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I get that, but if you are a 3, you can still date your fellow 2s and 3s. That's not necessarily true. It has already been shown that women tend to rate men much more harshly than men judge women. Women also tend to rate themselves as more attractive than they really are, and have myriad ways of tricking men to make them appear more attractive than they actually are (spanx, makeup, etc). Even ugly women are hypergamous- to think they'd settle for someone at a similar SMV is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 07:26 AM
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How is he wrong? Having read through that thread previously both men and women have physical preferences/requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 07:17 AM
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TRP has helped me quite a bit in streamlining the process to getting satisfying sex. The guidelines/sidebar material helped me to understand why women do what they do and has helped me to have realistic expectations from them. In addition the field reports have helped me identify locations and tactics that work well for me- some I may never have thought of myself. Overall it has taken a lot of the guesswork out of dating and helped me eliminate ineffective behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 06:58 AM
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Also, I wouldn't have graduated with a degree in Sociology This is the only part that sounds feasible, if only because it seems very unlikely that someone who buys into the RP view of the world would be able to put up with the load of leftist bullshit the social sciences offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 06:51 AM
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Someone who treats women like people. Getting started with the platitudes with a quickness, bravo. it's easier to have fulfilling relationships with women when you have at least some female friends, because then you'll know how to interact with a woman better That really depends on what a guy sees as a "fulfilling relationship." Having a couple of FWBs is plenty fulfilling to me and I keep the "friends" part few and far between. Also, if women are just "people" then why would anyone need to lear…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 09:57 AM
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You can treat people any way you'd like- I don't deal in "should."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 09:42 AM
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I'd be okay with that if only because unlike the "kindness" scenario the alpha value one actually plays out exactly as described.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 09:14 AM
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we should exclude men from leading and administrative positions Sounds good on paper, but it can be troublesome when your CFO demands maternity leave or you have leadership more driven to appease everyone or simply lacking the ability to be decisive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 07:07 AM
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I don't know that anyone has argued that women have realistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:55 AM
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How is it circlejerking when it's just one person making a post? That'd just be regular jerking, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:52 AM
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It's just another BPer that has no fucking idea what they are talking about. Par for the course.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 10:07 AM
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If you have the required plumbing them you're likely a man. What you aren't is a man with any frame of reference when it comes to heterosexual relationships so your inexperienced opinions don't amount to shit and only muddy the discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 10:00 AM
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Correct me if I'm mistaken: your flair is BP man and in another thread you stated a preference for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:47 AM
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And what authority are you on heterosexual relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:37 AM
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Your confusion on this is because you think men and women are measured by the same metrics and preferences. This is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:08 AM
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I'm saying what you or I think as average has no bearing on what any individual finds attractive. What may be a 5 to me may be an 8 for someone with different preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:49 AM
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Which might be meaningful if they're was a standardized metric on what constitutes a hb-anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:33 AM
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They do?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:22 AM
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We're used to it with BPers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:09 AM
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I doubt it creates a more negative view of women than women themselves do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:46 AM
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That does seem to be the baseless assertion BPers desperately cling to
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 09:38 PM
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I'll believe that when it stops working unbelievably well for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 04:14 PM
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Or perhaps their threshold of awesome is much higher than yours
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 11:13 AM
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Creepy is just a buzzword used when someone is unattractive and showing attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 09:07 PM
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It's the way you've seen. There are also guys who got divorce raped and said fuck it instead of getting involved anymore. It's not so difficult to imagine a guy whose been in a dead bedroom relationship for years having completely given up on sex and once the divorce finally happens he just fails back on the things that still brought him pleasure while married - hobbies and intellectual pursuits.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 06:55 PM
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You couldn't be more wrong. But you're on the size for that so it's expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 12:45 PM
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No, not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:12 AM
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I believe I can experience the same feelings most others can but the way I perceive them may not be the same. We are the collection of the experiences we have endured and even within the same culture and society that can be markedly different from person to person
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 12:22 AM
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Because I don't believe most people know the difference. They use words as they have heard them used without true understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 12:06 AM
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I'm arguing for the part of compassion that says you must feel the way the other person does. Pay better attention. People value the sentiment and comfort you give them, whether or not you actually feel the same thing they do doesn't matter and generally trying to insinuate you do can easily come off as insensitive and offensive if your perception of their feelings is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:34 PM
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I'm actually arguing that most people who claim to empathize lack the capacity and lie about it to appease perceived social pressure. Even people who share a common experience won't perceive it in exactly the same way because a lot of that is cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:29 PM
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The greater part of empathy is the delusion that we know exactly how another person is feeling. Sympathy is more than adequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:09 PM
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Then you'd have to prove a majority, which you can't because even if every cherry picked comment was from a completely different person it wouldn't be even close to a majority of the 88,000+ subscribers to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:37 PM
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There's obviously a distinction between the goals and ideals of TRP and the personal views of those who follow it. We all have opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 08:47 PM
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We all know that TRP advises strategies women commonly use already. I'd imagine a BP report to reinforce compliance for men jumping through such hoops and firmly cement them as the bitch in such a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 11:07 PM
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If a man is happy being in a relationship with a dominant woman and find sexual and emotional fulfillment in being of service to her, is there really anything wrong with that? TRP isn't about judging people's relationships- they will tell men what actions or inactions are causing them to fuck up their relationships. Asking if something is good or bad is a value judgment and TRP isn't about getting into morality issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 08:06 AM
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we can use Elliot Roger against you You can but as usual you'll be completely wrong. Rogers has been pointed out as staunchly anti-PUA and PUA is one of the main contributors to TRP strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 08:03 AM
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It's not about admonishing women, it's about pointing out to men what behaviors in women coincide with poor relationships and greater chance of divorce. Just because they say things that don't reflect well on women doesn't mean that they intend for women to see these things as do's and don't's- it's one of the things TRP is consistently right about- women can't bear to not be the center of attention. Everything has to be about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:59 AM
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Except it's not. Men were never saying hey, let's get generally physiologically weaker people in one of the few areas that still value physical strength. The military is just another career path that some women wanted to get into and the government bowed to the social pressure. Apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:56 AM
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Go ahead. I literally could not care less what you do in your social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:30 AM
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Values are inconsequential as well. We're talking about sexual strategies. Morals, ethics, and values are entirely outside the realm of TRP. Those are issues BPers want to harp on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:43 AM
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I'll go with all*- as AWALT is geared toward a sufficient enough number of women as to apply to all on assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:41 AM
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it is an egalitarian movement When has feminism ever sought to make equal any arena where women hold an advantage to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:39 AM
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Completely beside the point. What a woman regrets after the fact is inconsequential. The fact is that many of them can't come to the same realization when they are caught up in the tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:13 AM
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Which might be provable if you could actually pick out someone following TRP strategies from sight alone, but the ones who are proficient don't give obvious tells. But don't let me interrupt the world that only exists in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:00 AM
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Sorry, I wasn't aware that links to reddit comments are supposed to be taken seriously as evidence. Only when they support anti-RP sentiments. You'll notice the hypocrisy when BPers comment about how TRP field reports can't be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:56 AM
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they may not be the top, but they are pretty high. Then obviously they aren't as popular. TRP generalizations are accepted when there is a majority that fit such views.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:51 AM
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Just the ones with vaginas
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:46 AM
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Why do you BPers always put words in my mouth Because when they can't find realistic fault in what you say they'll argue what they wanted you to say. Typical BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:45 AM
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through a bluepill frame rather than a redpill frame be prepared for hundreds of special snowflakes commenting that motivations and such of women can't be interpreted from because everyone is different and unique while at the same time even the mere insinuation that a man is not performing as expected will have him demonized
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:43 AM
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Not speaking for RP but in my opinion yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 11:14 PM
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I experienced it in high school briefly but looking back (so this may be hazy) it was my own fault for making myself an easy target by being a fatty and refusing to stand up for myself
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 07:17 PM
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Having children is shitty- period.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 06:07 PM
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Because said fields require physical strength. Which men generally excel in compared to women. Isn't that unfair? Will you lecture reality about this inequality?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 10:51 AM
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They already did an explanation over at TRP, that way you can have an answer rather than badgering someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 10:48 AM
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You mean like the majority of u/XYEaQMZJvS's posts here?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 10:42 AM
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and how they're just sl00ts doing something with your head. In my experience actual sluts don't tend to show LMR- it's women who are afraid of looking like a slut to other women. Once you prove to them you're not the type to "kiss and tell" LMR goes away. It's disappointing when you have to convince women to do what they want to anyway- really kills the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 10:41 AM
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I imagine in a sub of over 3000, I'm not the only one in "lurk and read" mode. It would be interesting to see the numbers for what percentage of subs have posted. I suspect many are throwaways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 10:26 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 09:47 AM
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Just because something is sexist makes it automatically false? I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 09:36 AM
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Did you miss the part where we're living in a feminized society with a particularly pro-women bias? It's generally a very stupid thing to proclaim unpopular truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 09:34 AM
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It's not as big of a deal on the internet. So long as they don't post identifying themselves as women as if it's some qualification or post beta views then there's no disruption as there would be in a physical location where women would disrupt the environment simply for being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 09:31 AM
2

Most people Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 09:25 AM
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As someone in the medical field who works with Child Protective Services I see cases of abused children at the hands of their mothers often. One of the reasons it isn't publicized is because 8/10 times (guestimated) it's classed as postpartum depression and medical treatment is sought rather than there being legal repercussions. Men don't have that particular get-out-of-jail-free card.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 09:02 AM
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Possibly- I can't speak for all RPers, but my purpose for being here is to try to discuss gender issues with people of differing beliefs. As it's called Purple Pill Debate it makes sense that there will be people trying to argue in an attempt to win at being right. That's a little too neurotic and try-hard for my tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 08:41 AM
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I tend to check back every week or so to see if there are any worthwhile posts or even just some original content instead of the same posts rehashed by people that weren't around to read it the first time. I feel as if I've gotten everything I could use already from TRP. I identify as redpill because I do believe many of the basic TRP premises however the actual subreddit has become a caricature of itself and is usually not worth reading aside from entertainment value.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 08:37 AM
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Promoting understanding is hardly the same thing as seeking justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 08:15 AM
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Be thankful you're a man. I definitely am- just because women have some advantages that get brought up ad nauseum at TRP doesn't mean that women don't get a raw deal. To be valued primarily for your looks and genitalia and to be treated with kid gloves until those looks fade- then the kid gloves come off and you just have to learn to live with it? Sounds far worse than just being treated as disposable by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 08:12 AM
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RP? Does this concern you? The only part that concerns me is how backwards their priorities are
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 07:51 AM
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However, posts like this do nothing but shit on other people for what they are doing in their lives. Those posts are real life examples of the phenomena TRP posits. (which it seems like TRP has, though not all red pillers are that way) Nah, ARPALT- the more moderate ones just have better self control. The low quality posts and posts consisting of nothing but complaining appear to be TRP's fill-in for outrage porn. Those are no better than the snark over at TBP. I could also argue that without TB…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 07:49 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 07:35 AM
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Is it all that necessary? Yes If TRP is about finding the bits that work for you and ignoring the rest, why censor that and not the bitching? That you'll have to ask the mods. I think the bitching should result in banning. Some time ago there was even a modpost stating that there would be action taken concerning low quality comments but that's changed nothing. Why censor anything at all? Crystallized, no-bullshit male communication my foot :/ Because tone-policing results in feminized spaces. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 07:35 AM
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It's a subreddit for heterosexual men to shed beta misinformation that is commonly taught by western society and to discuss strategies that allow better success with relationships with women and at best gives the reasoning behind why these strategies work. Unfortunately, as TRP has grown it's picked up quite a following of people that just want to complain about women. As those threads never seem to get locked or deleted more and more of them are started. Despite heavy moderation, the sub is als…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 07:27 AM
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There really isn't much else to follow. Your lack of comprehension makes it useless to bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 07:13 AM
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Just because you don't understand how they fit together doesn't make it a non sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 07:00 AM
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How is it more "realistic" to lose your virginity to someone who is not your spouse? Because not all relationships lead to marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 06:34 AM
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TBP says that people should do what they want and not be dickbags to others for their choices. Unless you're TRP, then it's totes the opposite. Funny how TBP preaches tolerance only as long as you agree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 06:31 AM
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Perhaps but it's a necessary evil to keep the subreddit free from beta influences. Unfortunately it does nothing to keep topics focused on positive helpful information rather than just bitching about things women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 02:05 AM
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I don't doubt that people (regardless of pill) get emotional comfort from having pets- particularly if they aren't in a relationship. I'd be stressed to hell if I didn't have a cat. As far as sexual needs go it's women or masturbation only. The latter is far more convenient but the former can be a zesty enterprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 01:49 AM
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But I figure if it works for people, that's a good indication that TRP is correct about a lot of it. You'll find over time that the actual ideas TRP espouses are rarely the issue- it's always the language/tone. Blues won't swallow a pill that tastes bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 06:29 AM
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Women are fickle, they go with whatever "feels right". This; which is why you have to take whatever women say in "Cheaters, why did you cheat" Askreddit posts with a grain (and likely a shaker) of salt- because the accounts listed are post-hamster and likely reflect very little that factually occurred.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 02:44 AM
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The strategies have worked for me tremendously- for better and worse. I've been more successful with women over a broad range of careers/education, ages, and personalities using more or less the same strategies, just tailored a bit differently per person. Unfortunately the fact that they have worked has really affected my respect for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 02:42 AM
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I'm all for posts that stimulate discussion. Many posts fall into "this is my opinion, whatever" which is just a half-assed CMV anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 02:38 AM
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I avoid the discussion because I can see the likely outcome and it's pointless. There's nothing constructive about bitching about who has it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 02:09 AM
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I don't see how this will result as anything other than victimhood olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 08:33 AM
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How does this article strike you, and what do you think about domestic abuse? I see what you did there. I chuckled.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 09:20 AM
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Of course she says shit like this. She has no reason to be moderate. She's absolutely hideous and has no value to men.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/14 07:07 AM
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Women lack common sense. In other, more feminine subreddits I've seen common sense decried as bias.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/14 06:59 AM
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You refer to the car key analogy (which is poor) when it suits you and then go back to the actual situation when you can't refute an argument on that same poor analogy. At any rate, let's go back to the actual situation. Everyone has privileges, responsibilities, and disadvantages based on their lives, choices, and lifestyles. If someone chooses a life in the public eye- which is part of being successful in Hollywood- then that person has to realize that attempts will be made to invade their pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 06:09 AM
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Of course the person who actually leaked them is ultimately responsible, however it doesn't change the fact that as a celebrity it is really, really stupid to take that kind of risk. Stop moving the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 05:05 AM
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You won't get a realistic response because BP doesn't hold that women should be responsible for their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 04:34 AM
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The entitlement is astounding. This is the fantasy mindset you'll find with idealists. Although many times you'll find that the views are just part of the BP buffoonery.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 03:59 AM
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Can you not see how hard you are victim-blaming? Victim-blaming or not as someone famous there are far more people looking to violate your privacy. It is phenomenally stupid to create any kind of incriminating evidence such as these photos. It's not the womens' fault that those pictures were leaked, but it's absolutely their fault for allowing them to be taken in the first place. Really, really stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 03:31 AM
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Fortunately that number is decreasing as more men see what a sham marriage is
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 11:04 AM
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I think the red pill is way too preoccupied with trying to control the way people live. Really? Because that seems like the entire feminist strategy of "Here's a group of us outraged about something. Go change it for us, men!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/14 09:37 AM
0

Holy shit you know 80% of all men!?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/14 09:34 AM
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But you have fat acceptance bloggers who also happen to be "feminists" preaching that overweight women have a right to be overweight, while also having a right to date guys that look like this. Unattractive people will always be disadvantaged. Some of them just get a raw deal, like the birth defect kids whose parents were so selfish as to make a kid go through that. For others, like fatties- they bring it on themselves and it's hard to feel anything but disgust towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/14 08:45 AM
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I don't think you come off as particularly white knight-y but you do seem stuck in a beta frame of mind. That's not an insult, by the way. It seems to me that you still want to believe that true unconditional love is out there and it really isn't- not from people. You might be able to get a dog to love you that much, but that's the only bitch that ever will (zing!). I think it is good to seek personal happiness. We shouldn't live our lives wasting it worrying too much about others' emotions. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 06:14 AM
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Then there's no lasting attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 08:00 AM
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Well, that certainly explains why there are no attractive female candidates, but plenty of attractive female lobbyists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 09:29 AM
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Going by: When you understand and feel another’s feelings for yourself, you have empathy. I think terpers can identify and understand others' feelings but there's no emphasis on feeling their feelings- it's more about what to do when a woman is acting a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 06:53 AM
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Guy here, but this thread from RPW seems like something fitting for your thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 05:03 AM
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Falling Down (1993), a man acting out in a legitimately psychopathic way as opposed to what passes as psychopathic or sociopathic on this board.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 04:44 AM
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Yeah because you can't just outright say you hate [group of people] and actually gain supporters. Exactly why would they discuss strategies for forming relationships with a group they supposedly "hate." You make no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 03:08 AM
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I'd extend that to any profession where sexuality is used for monetary gain- particularly strippers, bartenders, and some waitresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 10:48 AM
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They're all pink on the inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 10:45 AM
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Have you even been to that sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 03:46 AM
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Because the rationalizations that bluepers use for what is considered politically correct are inherently hypocritical. Exactly, the meanings of words change based on what they want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 01:50 AM
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But it is, because there'd be no need at all for discussion if people didn't have opinions. I'm not sure what you don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/14 10:53 AM
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If you already knew the "correct answer" then why did you ask the question? Basically this Randal: I hope it feels so good to be right. There's nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the shortcomings of others, is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/14 07:42 AM
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When "real discussion" consists of trying to alter the language used or to make content more palatable to the masses it is, in fact concern trolling. From RationalWiki: "A concern troll visits sites of an opposing ideology and offers advice on how they could "improve" things, either in their tactical use of rhetoric, site rules, or with more philosophical consistency."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/14 06:27 AM
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So how did it come to be that this advice got blended with anti-feminism, decrying the crumbling western society, opinions about women in the sciences, the military, and politics, and so many other controversial ideologies? Because people have opinions and mods at that subreddit allow such discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/14 01:30 AM
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Do you believe both genders to be equal? No What is your beef with feminism? I believe it's outlived any actual necessity and is now creating issues out of nothing in order to receive special benefits. How would you go about achieving gender equality? There can never be gender equality. The genders are essentially different and will never be equal. Why do you associate with MRA's when they clearly hate your guts? I don't. MRAs come across as whiners as well. Do you engage in (protest, engage in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 06:31 AM
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It's possible, but I'd hardly say it's feasible. Also, if I was going for a professional the office is a horrible place to try to pick up- particularly if she's an executive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 06:16 AM
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Personalities vary but the reason that PUA strategies work aren't because someone is a "club" person, it's because women in general react favorably to the strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 06:00 AM
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Not everything is about you, sweetheart.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 05:17 AM
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You're the only one talking about pinning and choking. I was talking about holding a dominant frame- not BDSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 05:05 AM
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In behavior yes, but I think the difference in base mentality is far less than you'd imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 04:36 AM
1

But again everyone has to start somewhere. Just because you were able to learn such skills or had a certain level of introspection growing up doesn't mean everyone has, and who are you to deny someone the pursuit of their own happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 04:36 AM
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I don't see why it would make any difference. The motivation behind doing shitty things is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 04:33 AM
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implying there is a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 09:10 AM
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If your aptitude in discussion wasn't completely overtaken by trying far too hard to be witty via snark you'd almost be entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 08:54 AM
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So the issue is a person's lack of creativity? Because they are taking someone else's creativity, applying it and tailoring it to what works for them. Not everyone needs to reinvent the wheel. Would you find fault in everyone that reads manuals or self help books for other things? What about school? Should everyone figure out the Pythagorean theorem for themselves or is that okay to take from someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 08:39 AM
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Except that isn't the amendment that TBP tends to throw around. They purposefully and conveniently phrase statements in the worst possible light. It's pandering and blatant circlejerk-baiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 08:28 AM
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there are probably better, less miserable ways of achieving the same goal. When those alternatives are succinct, easily digestible, and as readily available as TRP is and provide the same or better results then I'm certain men will respond. The path of least resistance is usually sought.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 08:14 AM
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Off the top of my head, my guess is that it is because PUA doesn't come across as genuine. But certainly those people with less natural ability in seduction have to start somewhere. This is where TRP's advice to "fake it 'til you make it" comes in. For those that didn't simply pick up these skills from experience or worse yet haven't even gotten the chance to- do you suggest they just forego dating altogether?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 07:18 AM
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The problem with this, as pointed out in another thread is that these actions are only classified as manipulation when it is something a person is using as part of an artificial strategy (negging in particular, possibly more covert forms of dread). When a person naturally behaves this way it's given a pass. This inconsistency causes terps to see bluepers citing manipulation as crying wolf.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 07:04 AM
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This is where TRP's emphasis on being dominant in bed has served me very well. In the past I'd go with variety- some nights would be lust-crazed and full of adrenaline others would be comfortable, lazy morning humping and the reaction was primarily positive but sometimes lackluster. Since moving to a more dominant frame (particularly in bed) and dropping the lazy, comfortable sex the response has been consistently more excited and enthusiastic. As stated in the 16 Commandments of Poon- "fuck her…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 06:42 AM
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Are you still grasping at straws to incite outrage?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 05:28 AM
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Share the tendency of having predispositions which he doesn't even name? Are you reading a completely different post?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 05:17 AM
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It just says women share characteristics with dogs. Except it doesn't. It says the steps to train are similar and that both in this context have behaviors that can be seen as obedient or submissive. He never says the tendencies themselves are similar between dogs and women. Comprehension is crucial.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 03:37 AM
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