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It's all a projection, which no young guy should internalize. Low value is 'their' frame. You should wake up every day believing you could change the world in a positive way, as many men throughout history who were once viewed as insignficant later did.
/r/MensRights20/04/26 09:24 PM
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Yep, society isn't going to change overnight, and men have to adapt to the situation. All societies past and present have had injustices, but people still had to work within the parameters of the system and live the life they were given. This need not mean one has to become a pua - it could be mgtow or any other path that works for that particular man. It is hard to 'swallow the red pill' for many, to realize what we believed to be true about women is very far from it.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 07:52 AM
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This is something alot of people don't get - a man can be good looking and have money and still be viewed as a beta by women. Women go for status as they see it, usually as defined by what is popular in the media, and often chase guys that are ugly and broke but viewed as cool/edgy.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 07:36 AM
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Don't do it, don't let 'them' win. The despair is real, but there is an entire community now that knows exactly how you feel. It's not like years ago (ie the 90s and 00s) when this was truly bleak. Things will change for the better in the near future.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 07:31 AM
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That's what makes is difficult for men's rights to gain traction. Men as a gender are far more factional, whereas women are more communal. Society also realizes this and pits men against men to prevent any real challenge to gynocentrism. Feminism isn't anything ingenious or revolutionary, but simply tapped into tradcuck sentiment that society already held.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 07:14 AM
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The article says that the law will view 'extreme misogyny' as terror in addition to existing groups such as Islamists, redpillers and others. It's more likely that feminists view this as a broad based method of 'getting' men of all types. The idea that feminists are easier on non-white men is laughable. Many feminists are racists, the whole Karen phenomenon is evidence of this.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 07:00 AM
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Absurd - All major religions including Christianity consider pornography and promiscuity (which porn depicts) to be sinful. Sex is for procreation not recreation, to be undertaken by a man and woman within the bounds of holy matrimony - according to religion. It should be noted that in the 80's - both the feminists (2nd wavers) and the religous right attempted to ban porn - and still want to. Project 2025 expressly calls for a ban of porn and sex work of any kind.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 05:45 AM
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They want unicorns (liberal military guys tend to be rare, most are conservative). And macho guys tend not to be that sensitive or devoted. Betas are, but unsexy to them. It's just sad how difficult modern society is. When you look at how non-western societies are, everyone has roles that yes can be restrictive, but most people seem much happier.
/r/MensRights27/08/24 06:52 AM
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This is clearly the dynamic one can observe in any big blue city. The women are generally liberal and feminist, but tend to date lots of bad boy and foreign types who exhibit machismo, and who rep a more traditional culture. Whereas the modern day nice guy they 'say' they want tends to be viewed as asexual, as someone who is good to be a friend or coworker but not desired for dating. I don't think this is just a conflict that they're unaware of. I think they need both types of men. The non threa…
/r/MensRights27/08/24 03:45 AM
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Yep, they rail against the very thing they crave. In many ways reminiscent of the hypocrisy of some religious folk.
/r/MensRights27/08/24 03:13 AM
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Best thing to do is to ignore them, they thrive on attention, and 'the rules' allow them to spew but don't allow men to counter them. If possible guys should setup their own mra tiktoks where they can rebut the feminist narratives. In reality, there's no real way to change them. The goal should be to help other people see the truth, and reframe the narrative.
/r/MensRights27/08/24 02:54 AM
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Rights without responsibilities seems to be the sine qua non of feminism. Men only got rights recently (in historical terms) due to the high prices paid to advance humanity. If something hard and dangerous was to be done - it was done mainly by men - most of whom are forgotten by history.
/r/MensRights27/08/24 02:40 AM
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And keep in mind that most of these judges are men. Society (past and present) is deeply tied to the idea that it's men's job to sacrifice for society and women, and that women (especially if white and middle class or better) should be protected at all costs. Men who complain about being victims tend to be viewed by men and women alike as cowardly. It's a sad reality - we likely have a long way to go before this thinking ever changes.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 04:15 AM
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IIRC, Alana was a lesbian and an introvert, so she had some of the same complaints or perspectives that low value men have in the dating game. But for her (again, IIRC) it was about love and relationships. For the men, it's about being sociosexually ostracized, ie at a stage way before love or relationships.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 03:41 AM
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Yep, hypergamy works greatly against most males in the dating market. The beta who is a 5 simply wants the female 5, but she can sleep with 10's and date 7's. Human mating dynamics benefit the alpha males at the expense of beta males - it's less pronounced than in our hominid ancestors but still very much present.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 03:32 AM
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Apex fallacy - they're focusing on the top men, not the masses of mid and low level men who tend to blend into the background. The stats you quote won't matter for that reason.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 03:17 AM
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It's sad - but the way society thinks is this: men are disposable, women are valuable. Both traditional and modern ideologies believe this at their core, which is likely part of human hardwiring. That's why men's safety does not matter to society. Also that other men are the attackers so 'they're doing it to themselves' is the sentiment. But the men doing the attacking are usually the dominant males ie alphas - not the typical man (ie beta) who is usually the victim.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 03:03 AM
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Yes, women find power dynamics hot, and know that most of them can't get access to those powerful men, and are 'stuck' with betas. Women can't admit this openly of course, as it would reveal their superficiality.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 04:48 AM
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Powerful men do generally choose for marriage women of similar status. But that status need not be her career etc - it's the status of her father/family that usually matters. Of course who the man really wants to have sex with usually has nothing to do with that stuff, and all to do with beauty and youth. Which is why powerful men often also have women on the side.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 04:39 AM
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Exactly - female sexual selection in no small part shaped how men are. Females are attracted to dominance and toxicity, then turn around and blame men. It's why the complaints of nice guys triggers them so - it reveals a core aspect of female psychology.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 04:33 AM
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Apex fallacy plays a big role as well. Women see themselves as special creatures, on the level of alpha males, and seek equality to them. That's what equality means to feminists. They don't see the masses of betas grinding away to make society work, nor do they care - they feel entitled to it. Patriarchy made women obligated on some level to betas - that's what enrages women and what led to feminism.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 04:15 AM
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Romance genre are mostly (99%) about alpha males and mildy attractive women, like Twilight and 50 shades. It is female pron - usually written by women for women. There have been a few 'nice guy' romcoms that are made to get men/couples to watch - but those are usually (as others have said) done with a wink and a nod, clearly absurd. Those are not what women like to dream about - it's done to fool the betas into thinking that being a nice guy works.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 04:08 AM
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We can see why religions emerged, as they (at least the monogamous ones) functioned as a type of sexual socialism. But there were many misandrist elements to traditional society - the typical man's obligations were high, all for the 'privilege' of accessing a female.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 03:56 AM
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Yes - but feminism has convinced society that men (betas) must serve them to bring about equality. As much as we think society won't accept harems - it already has. Beta taxes pay to support women's carousel lifestyle.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 03:45 AM
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Agree - that seems to be what feminism's end goal is, to reproduce with the alphas, and use the betas/govt/etc as the 'village.' They want 'all women' to have access to such a lifestyle.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 03:40 AM
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Neither party cares for men's issues, that has been established. The problem, as the OP implies, is that it's often viewed that the left/Democrats are the only pusher of feminism and misandry. This is untrue, as right/Republicans have similar views in many ways to Democrats when it comes to these issues.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 07:05 PM
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Yep, male production and disposability is what led to civilization - which benefitted women. Women are hardwired for extraction of resources - it's like a kid's mindset that is fixated on their own needs and wants without concern or awareness from where things come from.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 06:59 PM
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That is true, UK has become a feminist hellhole. I was talking more from a US perspective.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 06:47 PM
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Powerful men supported feminism from the beginning because it (a) doubled the workforce, (b) increased consumerism (c) made women more sexually available to them. Feminism benefits alphas at the expense of betas - as intended.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 06:37 PM
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Tradcons view rp/mra/mgtow as losers, every bit as much as feminists do. Tradcons come at it from a slightly different angle, but both share the view (stated or unstated) that it's men's job to make women happy, and if women are unhappy it is probably men's fault.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 06:21 PM
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Tradcons are paleo feminists - they view men's role as that of disposable protector and provider. Traditional society was the fertile soil upon which feminism took root and flourished, because they have similar core beliefs.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 06:13 PM
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ADHD drugs have been overprescribed in the past, but what he describes doesn't sound like side effects of these drugs, which have been around forever. This guys issues sound more related to the fact that his birth mom was a heroin addict, and was likely using drugs/smoking/malnourished etc while carrying him. That could cause developmental problems that would have lifelong effects.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 05:57 PM
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Exactly - you have to do your own shit tests to weed out the losers. Paying for small first dates like coffee etc is fine. But if she wants expensive dates early on that's a sign of a material girl.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 11:17 PM
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Stuff like that probably converted many younger men, who have a better grasp on the situation than older generations.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 11:07 PM
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It's a way to mock male suffering.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 10:54 PM
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Yep - the media and society has no empathy for misfit or unattractive men, who are demonized and viewed as dangerous. Yet has all types of sympathy for misfit women - forcing us to see them as equal to the more attractive women. Anything less than worship of 'all women' is seen as misogyny.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 10:53 PM
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Many betas do on some level realize what you said, but many also are just bluepill and clueless. Then alphas of course love the system as is as they're the prime beneficiaries. The younger men are likely the ones to push for change as they see the problem more clearly.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 10:39 PM
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Conservatives and apoliticals would do the same. Society is misandrist at its core and sees mens' role as protector and provider for women - whether the men want to do it or not. Society and feminists will find ways for men to pay up - through relationships, marriage and taxes - to support women.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 10:28 PM
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Society (both left and right) is misandrist and blames men for anything that goes wrong or 'hurts' women - who are viewed to be entitled to support and protection. Men are 'bad' and must pay up. The top tier of men (ie, alphas) who benefit sexually and financially from feminism don't care about the other men.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 10:15 PM
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Paternity tests should be mandatory upon birth.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 04:35 AM
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Great post. But the mistake is to think feminism was ever about equality: this is the intended result. Feminism is about extraction of resources, and subjugating men (especially the betas) under gynocentric rule.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 04:16 AM
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Women are hardwired to extract resources - both from men and society at large - and don't care what the reasons are, whether false or real.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 03:55 AM
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Harsh, but possibly reality, due to hardwiring. Cultures past and present were based upon male dominance (ie patriarchy), likely in part to ensure that most regular men would attract a wife and reproduce. IOW, society understood that women only wanted strong men. As we advanced, society came to view equality as morally correct. But it likely has had the effect of rendering such men as unattractive.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 03:14 AM
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The people overall from non-western nations are much nicer, raised better with more respect for humanity. The west has become a cesspool, driven by consumerism and media. Latin, Asian and Eastern Euro women are to some extent influenced by the west but still have a traditional and nurturing side to them.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 10:58 PM
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Many feminist guys are well meaning nice guys who naively believe that doing what women say will: make women happy, lead to a better society and help them get laid all at the same time. Of course we know better, but most guys do not, so it's hard to blame them considering that's what our media and society teaches us.
/r/MensRights23/02/24 03:16 AM
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Yep - Hooters may've been edgy in the '80s when most women wore baggy clothes. But in today's world it's normal to see women in skimpy outfits, and so Hooters does seem like a dated concept.
/r/MensRights23/02/24 02:47 AM
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Women love the bad boy - there are many such stories of women falling in love with inmates, and this guy was a convicted murderer. Then of course feminists will complain about 'toxic masculinity' - when it's what most women select for, to varying degrees.
/r/MensRights22/02/24 04:26 PM
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Your 'corollary' statement describes how society has always worked. Men generally will push other men out of the way, and women are hardwired to extract resources. The only way to deal with this is how you did, passive resistance in a sense allowing gynocentrism to eat itself. Women have always taken men for granted, who have shielded them from reality and from other women (who they mostly don't get along with). Leaving women to their own devices is perhaps the best medicine.
/r/MensRights22/02/24 03:58 PM
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Some don't like that men now have a vernacular which allows us to more quickly and easily communicate these ideas - which were developed by pua/rp a long time ago and are not anything new.
/r/MensRights18/02/24 11:54 PM
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Exactly. AFBB requires that the betas and omegas play their roles as free support system and provider for post-wall women. Feminism is a cartel that seeks to control supply and valuations, and men seeking 'outside' women is therefore a threat.
/r/MensRights18/02/24 11:39 PM
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Women are far more selective and are willing to share a desirable man. The human species evolved from more than twice as many mothers than fathers as a result. The typical man has far lower SMV than the typical woman, who is in a far better position to get a mate of her choosing.
/r/MensRights11/02/24 05:06 AM
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I think we can have a better system at some point, as technology and social media make it easier/cheaper to campaign and get elected, thus reducing the reliance on big donors. We also need to have more choices than the two party duopoly.
/r/MensRights11/02/24 04:57 AM
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Yes, the cops, other men, the state (divorce court, etc) - ie their 'hitmen'. Women are hardwired (hypergamy) to do this. All of them do it to varying degrees. Feminism just takes it to a more twisted level.
/r/MensRights11/02/24 04:29 AM
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Men have no way of knowing which man/institution/state agency will suddenly attack him at the direction of a woman, ie female proxy violence.
/r/MensRights11/02/24 04:18 AM
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Yep, women use proxy violence, which in many ways is worse. The person who hires a hitman is more evil and violent than the hitman himself.
/r/MensRights11/02/24 04:10 AM
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Female violence has more to do with how they play men against each other, ie violence by proxy. Feminism is simply an institutionalized version of this, whereby they use other men/media/state/courts to do it for them.
/r/MensRights11/02/24 04:00 AM
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Female hypergamy, in many ways, is at the root of male dominance competition. Thus it could be said that male violence is female violence by proxy.
/r/MensRights11/02/24 03:48 AM
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Men are supposed to be tough and disposable, while women are precious and protected. That's the underlying sentiment that most people hold. That's why feminism is so effective because it plays upon such traditional sentiments, all while claiming to be against them.
/r/MensRights07/02/24 09:07 AM
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To be fair, Dems usually agree with those same laws. Obama was famous for lecturing men about fatherly duties. Both parties are gynocentric and tend to look down on men's rights.
/r/MensRights07/02/24 08:48 AM
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Traditional society was more balanced, but IMO it provided the fertile soil for feminism to grow from. Traditionalists present themselves as being on the side of men but are fairly gynocentric and misandrist. Feminism grew out of this sentiment and is the main reason it has such far/wide reach. Releasing women from their obligations was easy for feminists to accomplish because it was consistent with traditional pedestalization of women and the tendency for society to trust their supposed superio…
/r/MensRights06/02/24 01:04 PM
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The rise of Trumpism is the messy beginning of a new ideology that is neither traditionally RW or LW, and that rejects our current system. He's like a wrecking ball to a system that many are simply fed up with. IMO in time it will evolve to better incorporate non-white men, populists and MRA's. IMO, the liberal side of the aisle will get more and more feminist and neoliberal. That may be the dividing line in our future politics.
/r/MensRights06/02/24 08:53 AM
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Traditionalists are the worst, basically stealth feminists. Both ideologies share alot in common in terms of shaming men into serving women.
/r/MensRights06/02/24 08:47 AM
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Very good analysis. The incels are simply the lower class of our SMP that is heavily tilted in favor of women and alphas. If the masses of mid value men (betas) started to realize that their interests are best served by standing with the incel against the system - that's when real change will occur. That's what feminists don't want, and why they so fear and demonize the incel.
/r/MensRights06/02/24 08:15 AM
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In the past there was more reciprocation from women (which made it seem like a better deal) but feminism basically removed women's obligations while increasing men's. Honor only makes sense if it works both ways. Personally, I'm not giving up my seat in the lifeboat, and I think many men are coming to the same conclusion.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 03:55 AM
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What's mine is mine and what's yours is ours - how most women think - which leads to them demanding their own spaces while denying men the same thing. They'll also claim that since men 'had it good' for so long (myth) that it's women's turn to have the double standards in their favor.
/r/MensRights03/02/24 05:46 AM
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Female pedestalization Keep in mind they'll say that is benevolent sexism, all while demanding more of it.
/r/MensRights03/02/24 05:32 AM
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I don't understand why things are this way Chivarly my friend is the underlying problem common to almost all societies past and present. Feminism is merely chivalry 2.0. Men are supposed to sacrifice and be disposable. Therefore the entire concept of male rights seems sexist to many (not just feminists) because it violates that underlying sentiment. Women and children first. Women have never been oppressed, rather they were a child-like class that was entitled to protection and provision. That h…
/r/MensRights03/02/24 05:19 AM
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Most cultures still expect men to protect and provide for women Feminism is simply an outgrowth of that traditional mindset that expects men to provide for and protect women for very little in return. Traditional patriarchy simply ensured easier access to a wife and job, but had the same underlying mindset of male disposability and female entitlement. When the Titanic sunk men had to give up their seats to women.
/r/MensRights03/02/24 04:39 AM
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Women only see things in terms of outcomes. Men 'have' money and women want it - and they don't care what rationalizations they'll use to get it. It's why feminism can seem contradictary, but when viewed through this lens makes perfect sense.
/r/MensRights03/02/24 04:22 AM
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Feminism is patriarchal, simply one-sided, where they shape shift depending upon the situation to maximize gain.
/r/MensRights03/02/24 03:50 AM
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Higher std risk has nothing to do with it, as women tend to love the players and frat boys whose very lifestyles carries higher std risks. As others have stated, it has to do with women's love of machismo. The bi guy is viewed as weak/effeminate whereas the player is viewed as macho.
/r/MensRights03/02/24 03:47 AM
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Is this because, to a woman, a man having sex with another man makes him less masculine and therefore less attractive? Yep, although they claim gender doesn't matter, at the end of the day they prize the macho dudes who aren't viewed as 'gay.' Even in liberal communities women still tend to hold men to fairly gendered standards. Like a woman may accept that women could be vegan etc but tend to view male vegans as wimpy. There are a host of hypocrisies like this.
/r/MensRights03/02/24 03:38 AM
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Swift/Barbie etc are expressions of Hollywood driven consumerism and in no way threaten existing power structures despite them being female.
/r/MensRights03/02/24 03:16 AM
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And women's demand for resources and status (hypergamy) is a prime driver of patriarchal society, where only the top men actually have the power that feminists ascribe to all men (apex fallacy).
/r/MensRights02/02/24 01:57 PM
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She epitomises what many young women want to be – powerful but joyful, financially independent, patently not in need of a man but having zero trouble getting one – while he stands for all those threatened by this subversion of the patriarchal order. How exactly does Swift or Barbie threaten the patriarchal order? Swift is a corporate pop creation - a cookie cutter white girl who can barely sing or write a good song. Barbie was co-written (probably mostly written) by Gerwig's husband (who is 14 y…
/r/MensRights02/02/24 01:44 PM
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It's because the underlying sentiment of society is that men (especially beta) are simply lucky to get access to women, and if/when they do they must be ready to pay up.
/r/MensRights02/02/24 08:51 AM
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They are correct to a point but it also implicates women. Powerful men do control other men with the assistance of - and to the benefit of - women. That's how it's always been and feminism is simply that dynamic on steroids.
/r/MensRights02/02/24 08:28 AM
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