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I explained my perspective in my previous post. If you can't see where I'm coming from, then there's no reason to continue this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:11 PM
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You know what's funny? I think that serial monogamy with bouts of cheating is the rejection of modernity. It's people returning to a more ancient state of human behavior. Modernity was humans putting lifelong monogamy as the highest form of relationship in order to build a stable society. However, our technology today no longer requires lifelong monogamy to maintain a stable society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:54 PM
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You moved the goalposts in your analogy. You previously said that OP was saying, "If I can't have casual sex, nobody can!" But your Disneyworld analogy is about not being friends with someone who has gone to Disneyworld, rather then "If I can't go to Disneyworld, nobody can!" I still don't understand why you think it's hypocritical. If a guy had a lot of casual sex, but wouldn't date a girl who also had a lot of casual sex, that would be hypocritical. But the OP never engaged in casual sex in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:49 PM
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A traditional relationship requires the culture around people to incentivize and enforce lifelong monogamy, because that's not the default state for humans. We evolved more for serial monogamy with bouts of cheating. With the increasing prevalence of divorce, extramarital pregnancies, and cheating, it looks like our culture is headed in that direction as the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:24 PM
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That's not the mentality though. He's saying that he would only date women who haven't had casual sex in the past since he didn't have casual sex in the past. He's not stating that nobody should have casual sex. In fact in his original statement, "having issues with her more promiscuous past" isn't shaming, since no one is entitled to dating or relationships with another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:03 PM
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Why is he seeking casual sex if he's also shaming people who engage in it? It's pretty obvious. If he's not able to have casual sex, and can only have sex with women who he's showcased his commitment towards, he's going to want women who haven't engaged in casual sex. Otherwise the previous guys had sex with her with very little investment, whereas he has to invest a lot to get the same outcome. If you take an alternate scenario where he's had casual sex with women in the past, then providing co…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:47 PM
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You're way too young to be giving up on finding a wife and having a child with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:26 AM
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I think that it's sad to intentionally bring a child into the world if you're alone. Now if you have family that would support you (parents, siblings, aunts, uncles, ect.) then it might be okay. But even then, you're placing a burden on them that they otherwise wouldn't have. It's one thing to ask for help with your child when you already have a partner, but it's very different when you intentionally chose not to have a partner while asking for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:24 AM

Not just hypergamous, also hyperglycemic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:17 AM

Is OP autistic? A recurring question in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:15 AM
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Woman 2 would be preferred.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:01 AM
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Polyamory people are way too ugly for that lifestyle to become mainstream. They need some hot people in polyamorous relationships in some kind of reality tv show to get any foothold in mainstream culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:45 PM
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Women still need "game" to get a guy to commit to her
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:53 AM
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It's fetish when a large discrepancy in height is specifically sought after. For example, if a man wants a woman with breasts, that's pretty normal and not a fetish. If a man only wanted a woman with large breasts, that would be a fetish. Likewise, a woman wanting a man taller than her is normal. However, if she wanted a man that was much, much taller than her, then that's a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:10 AM

He's not talking about other people and children that are external to you. He's referring to a woman who should have been carrying your child, but cheated and is carrying the child of another man. He is proposing that the tendency for men to avoid promiscuous women for long term bonding is to avoid helping raise another man's baby that was supposed to be your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:37 AM
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I have to assume that you're a woman, because there's no way a man would think his libido is due to how women are portrayed in media. Media, for the most part, reflects what we already want back to us. We're not entities that can be easily manipulated into changing our sexuality by consuming some videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:17 AM
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Clearly culture plays a huge part in the norms of how men and women act in a society. We're not subject to evolutionary pressures in any significant sense with the time scales during which modern society has existed. In our culture, women are tasked with being enticing enough for men to want to come up to them, since women don't want to approach men. That requires beauty. An ugly woman is not getting a lot of men (men that she'd want) coming up to her. should it not be the men who make their ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:04 PM
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I don't think one can generalize across all "average" women, but there is an archetype of woman who is average or a bit below average, has a high sociosexuality, and hooks up with a bunch guys out of her league during college and/or using dating apps. Those women can usually only get committed relationships with guys of similar attractiveness. However, those guys don't have as much experience hooking up, even less with women more attractive than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:40 AM
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Regardless of the nuances, there is a fundamental difference between men and women regarding how we experience desire for sex and access to sex in the world. We're not having equal experiences, hence the discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:10 AM

You're right, but that doesn't make what is available a useful stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:50 PM

Using stats in the context of dating is not very helpful, because the populations that they are being applied to vary so much. You have highly religious people vs secular, rural vs urban, immigrant vs native born, varying age cohorts, varying education levels, cultural differences by region, cultural differences by ethnicity/race, differences due to income/wealth, etc. These stats don't take any of those variables into account. Instead everyone is reduced to just to age and marital status. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:06 PM

The 18 year olds who knew how to do makeup, fashion, fitness, etc. probably do look best at that age if they've already maximized their potential and they've grown into their features already. However, that's rarely the case, and I think most women maximize their potential somewhere in their 20s. I'd say girls in their early 20s are the most coveted, because a lot of women have found a look that works for them by that age. Also, their body likely developed for a few more years, making them have …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:40 PM

I'm not saying subjugation didn't happen, nor am I saying that there weren't intentional attempts to codify it in various institutions. My issue is that it often is framed as a thing "men" did to "women", leading women who are less discerning to point to any man as the reason that she is suffering in some area of her life. To frame it like that does a disservice to the realities of what our ancestors faced. Could it have been any other way? I don't know. I don't think any society that was egalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:04 PM
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The things about ovulation makes sense. I had a coworker who I had no attraction towards, but then one day she was helping me with something completely banal, and I had an inexplicable rise in libido when she was near me. There was nothing else going on, but I assume that I was sensing her pheromones during that stage in her cycle. Very weird to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:26 AM
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I think short term mating made sense in that context, but to have that be the default approach of relationships and raising children in our modern context feels like it would be a disaster. Women being the sex that couldn't control their urges compared to men is such a foreign concept in our modern society that I can't even wrap my head around it. I have no idea what that society would look like where men complain about women coming onto them too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:41 AM
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This is an idea that's espoused in red pill spaces, which is not framed or articulated in any meaningful way. Obviously the statement, "Only children, pets, and women are loved unconditionally," is untrue. It makes it seem as if only men are capable of expressing unconditional love to women, but women are not capable of expressing it to men. We should try to understand the meaning behind the statement instead of attempting to argue against its surface level stance. "Unconditional love" or "agape…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:13 AM
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Any opinion on the internet is going to get backlash. If you want a girl with a low body count, who'll be a stay-at-home wife, who's not fat, conventionally attractive, etc. then go for it. You should also feel free to express that opinion online, but try to avoid denigrating those that don't fit into the type that you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:50 AM
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I find it difficult to parse the nuance of "intent at subjugation" because that idea assumes that men consciously decided to put women at a lower position in society relative to men. I think it was more of an emergent phenomenon from our sexual dimorphism and other relevant factors. Hunter-gatherer societies were likely more egalitarian than settled ones where "dating" was based more on biological instinct. Whereas the settled groups had to contend with property, patrilineage, and violence from …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:00 PM
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I think that the highly traditional societies, like the Islamic ones, are required to put up a dam to prevent the tide of cultural change that comes with technological progress from bursting through. Feminism emerged partially as a result of mass communication and industrialization. Women around the country and the world could communicate their ideas about what a better world, in their eyes, would look like. Industrialization also produced goods that would have otherwise required a significant a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:49 PM
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Based on the style and wording of your post, you were mocking and belittling him. Base attraction is self-serving, sure, but the attraction that emerges in our cultural context is susceptible to influence. A society that puts a certain trait at the top of the hierarchy is going to be more attractive. Much of the direct influences in our society have been abstracted away due to the complexity, but we can observe these kind of influences in smaller, less complex societies. For example, the practic…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:34 PM
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From a facial aesthetics perspective, he has a strong jaw and sharp jawline, which women, straight or lesbian, find very attractive in this day and age. In fact a sharp jawline, which tends to be a masculine trait, is even considered an attractive trait for women in Western societies (Angelina Jolie, Olivia Wilde, J Lo, Keira Knightly, Margot Robbie). I've got to include the male actors here too (Tim Chalamet, Brad Pitt, Harry Styles, Henry Cavill, Matt Bomer). The emphasis on the jawline might …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:11 PM
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For most of human civilization, marriage wasn't based on love. Women were exchanged to the highest bidder for property, titles, land, and family relationships. Women were forced to marry for security for centuries until modern times, but those traditions are still very engrained in our society and tbh it makes sense to a large degree because of capitalism and how expensive life and education have become. The arrangement of human mating rituals in societies past wasn't a conspiracy created by men…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:59 PM
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It's a disservice to belittle the OP's perspective by claiming that everyone should obviously know women's attraction to men is superficial and self-serving at its base. The hierarchy of values imposed upon us by culture has been disintegrating for some time, but remains in pockets all over the Western world (US and it's culturally-similar satellite states). That hierarchy positioned men and women of great moral character and skill at the top, putting forward the claim that it is they who should…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:40 PM
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This advice is to attract women. Seems like you have no problem there. Keeping women requires a different set of skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:31 PM
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Why do you say "and"? My previous statement didn't require a response. There's nothing in my statement that that calls for any change in behavior or moral judgements.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:00 AM
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Is it how they were raised, biological, or just a matter of finding the right person? Yeah, I think you answered your own question. How we decide to approach sex and relationships is highly dependent on our genetics/biology, cultural background, and the people we are interacting with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:46 AM
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The only advice people need, both men and women, is to maximize your potential physical attractiveness and improve your charisma. Those are the only factors you need to focus on if you want to get more dates. There are a ton of resources on becoming more a physically attractive person and also a bunch on becoming more charismatic. To be more physically attractive, one should structure their life to maintain a healthy weight, take care of their skin, have a good haircut/facial hair, fix your teet…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:37 AM
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I'm not really a Christian in the whole sense of the word because I mostly follow a Buddhist Goddess but I can acknowledge wisdom when I see it. I grew up in a Buddhist family and have never heard of a goddess or any deities. What sect of Buddhism are you practicing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:22 AM
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What girls prefer guys do varies and holding the door open like that is common courtesy even with strangers. However, there are some women who like when men hold open the door for them every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:48 PM
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I don't know why you think that, men watch porn fully clothed with their hands laid flat on the table in front of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:47 PM
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I suppose men watch porn for the same reason then, to be entertained.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:04 PM

I think hunter-gatherer societies likely varied in the cultural norms from tribe to tribe, but most probably had fairly open relationship formation compared to their settled society counterparts. I imagine the differences between men and women during those times were also more pronounced, as well as there being a limited pool of suitors. It was probably like playing musical chairs, where if you didn't have a chair once the music stopped, you were screwed unless you pushed someone else out of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:24 PM
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Okay, you're just gonna be intentionally obtuse, huh? Women read romance novels and Wattpad smut for the intellectual rigor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:11 PM
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The difference is the value and norms placed on sex in any given culture. If sex is viewed as a sacred bond between two individuals, and breaking that bond by cheating is one of the worst things you could do in a relationship, then sex work is going to be viewed very negatively. Whereas if sex is something fun that two people or more can engage in as a stress reliever and a way to connect with others, but it's not a deeply sacred, intimate act, then sex work is viewed as just people using what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:37 PM
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You're probably referring to opening a door, walking through it, and then holding it open with one hand to let the next person grab a hold of the door. Whereas the version being discussed here is where you walk up to the door, hold it open from the outside while letting your partner walk in, and then you walk in after them. Women dating men don't hold open the door for men like that in our culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:26 PM
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If you found out a guy was reading Nabakov's "Lolita" while self-stimulating, you'd be a bit concerned about that wouldn't you? It's not just reading the book for it's literary value at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:22 PM
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Yes, even I feel that way as a guy making good money. My bills require me to work for a company doing a bunch of work that I find tedious and unfulfilling. I have to spend the majority of my awake life at a place doing work with a bunch of strangers just to not lose everything I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:00 PM
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Play out the scenario. You get a wife from abroad who stays at home and runs the household while you bring the biscuits and cheddar home. That sounds like a pretty good deal, right? But assuming you live in a Western country, that's not the type of relationship most of your kids will grow up seeing. Watching your wife do all the household chores will make your future kids, especially daughters, resent you and disrespect you as they grow up in a culture that views that marriage arrangement as abh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:52 PM
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I don't think it's that extreme, but the issue does become where guys of that caliber match with women who are attractive, but not attractive enough for him to commit to her, and then those women adjust their standards since it seems like she could get a guy who's that more attractive that her. The guys who are at her level of attractiveness wonder why those women don't match with them, so they go find girls who are a bit less attractive. Thus, creating a cycle that really messes up the dating p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:24 AM
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The poster mentioned that in-person attempts also didn't work out. I agree it's hyperbolic, I don't think he actually is willing to take "anyone". Most people want to date those of similar attractiveness. Women pretty much have the same complaints when using dating apps. Despite having a plethora of potential matches, plenty of which would be great a LTR, those guys tend not to be the ones she finds physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:21 AM
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There are also a bunch of good looking, average height women in LA, who would be a potential match in a functional dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:07 AM

We men do the same thing with a beautiful woman. It's a lot easier to project positive traits on attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:05 AM
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Yeah, I can see that some people disagree, but she's still a far ways off from Lizzo. Ashley Graham is lucky that she has a feminine fat distribution and doesn't hold much fat in her face. Had she the exact same bodyfat percentage, but held more fat in her stomach and face, she wouldn't be considered attractive in our society. And like I said, it varies culturally. In Mauritania, Lizzo might be considered a beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:39 PM
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Most women would still view it as a compliment to be considered beautiful like Ashley Graham, because she is an attractive woman. However, Lizzo is far less attractive than Graham or Connelly. There are universal beauty standards and both Graham and Connelly meet them. If Graham was fatter or had a less feminine fat distribution, or if Connelly showed more signs of aging, they would not be considered as beautiful. And it wouldn't make sense to compare a skinny woman to Ashley Graham in the first…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:43 PM
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Yeah, women women do experience violence in those domains. They also enact violence in those domains.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:29 PM
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The difference is most women would want to be considered as beautiful as current Jennifer Connelly or younger Jennifer Connelly at some point in their lives. Whereas the vast majority of women would never want to be considered "beautiful like Lizzo" at any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:16 PM
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Because that's not how women express their power. Rarely are they on the frontlines of violence. The women who desire to enact violence on others often use men as a conduit to achieve their goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:08 PM
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The benefit of a woman who's a virgin is that they're easier to commit to monogamously. Committing to one person is sacrificing you dating and sleeping with other people. If a woman you are seeing has had a lot more sexual partners than you, you might not feel as committed to monogamy with her...unless she's very attractive. That's the only benefit I can think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:03 AM
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Guys with small d's don't really have any other choice. Yeah, there are some women who want to get dicked down and you need to have the necessary equipment to do so. Other women are okay with other things. Women aren't going to say that small dicks feel just as good as regular sized dicks, most even say they don't like when it's too big. Life isn't fair sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:57 AM
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Seeming emotionally in-touch and mentally healthy is still attractive in its own right (along with other traits like wittiness, cheerfulness, intelligent, adventurous, well-read, respectful, etc etc). I think all of those are very positive traits, and they would make a woman more attracted to a man who has them. I just don't think that (barring marginal circumstances) that these traits lead to genuine attraction (which I know you disagree with my definition) on the woman's part absent the requis…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:45 AM
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It does seem that the we disagree with the traits that makes guys attractive to women, where I believe it's only physical attractiveness and game, whereas you include a variety of other traits. However, the main disagreement is that I don't believe the guys who struggle to get dates are mostly due to mental health issues. I believe your perspective would hold true for a long term relationship. A woman may see a man who she doesn't initially find physically attractive or alluring, but the basket …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:31 PM
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It would make them more attractive as a partner if they had dating prospects to begin with, but it won't increase the number of people willing to go on a date with them. Often what's lacking is either physical attractiveness, game (charisma, ability to flirt, etc.), or both. If the reason an individual is not improving those two traits is due to mental health reasons, then perhaps the therapy can help. But more often than not, the guys struggling with getting dates are just not attractive enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:55 PM
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Yet improving dating options is the issue that's often being asked about. It's disingenuous for people to give the advice of going to therapy or working on mental health as a solution to a lack of dating options. You might feel a bit better about yourself, but there won't be any meaningful change in your dating options if that's the only advice you heed. It's like if a college student was asking about how to get a job after graduation, and rather than telling them to get work on their resume, do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:28 PM
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Sure, but this is about improving your dating options, not becoming a healthier person. You can have all of those issues, but still have a bunch of dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:56 PM
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That would be disgusting. Also OP, you should know that men and women are not the same. We should be held to different standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:01 AM
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It's because humans are lazy and don't want the negatives that come with positives of changes in the culture. Independent feminist girl bosses found that climbing the corporate ladder isn't all that fulfilling and it's really hard to balance being a mother and a demanding job. But you get independence and freedom to choose your path in life, and some women find their careers very fulfilling. You also have the freedom to date around, sleep around, and have fun without parents or a husband stoppin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:12 AM
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Women aren't repelled, they just don't find those traits attractive. The only women who are specifically looking for those traits tend to have been in abusive relationships. Most women prefer kindness in a long term partner, but excitement is more important for a lot of women in their early years. Kindness doesn't evoke excitement or passionate emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:01 AM
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I said if you are hot and/or have game, you can get women. A 5'5" indian janitor can score with a woman if he makes himself presentable enough and has enough game. The woman might not be attractive, in fact she might be downright ugly. Also, just being hot is unlikely to get you an equally hot girl. That's why you need game. Status/looks/money are the only things that determine how or who you date. No, it's just looks. If you increase money/status, all you're doing is improving your chances with…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:15 AM
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He could date a woman, I never said attractive woman. You said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:57 PM
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Are you asking about dating advice for dating the most attractive women or a woman? Because if you can't make enough money or develop enough social skills to date a mediocre-looking or even ugly woman, I have no advice to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:55 PM

I don't need facts because I'm not autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:47 PM
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If a man lacks the drive to work on becoming attractive enough for a woman to want to be with him, then he's a genetic dead-end and is not meant to reproduce. Then he should be happy with porn, AI gf, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:40 PM

One man's bullshit is another man's fertilizer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:37 PM
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Not all dating problems, but the problem of getting dates is solved if you're hot (and have sufficient game), that's for sure. If you can't be hot due to some genetic traits, you have to leverage other aspects of yourself (wealth, social status, charisma) to get a girl to settle on some of the physical traits she's looking for in a partner. If you're really desperate to be hot, there are also several surgeries that could help.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:23 PM
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I don't know what to tell you, you seem to have your perspective and I have mine. IMO life's too short to microanalyze your past. If a guy wants to sleep with women, he's got to make himself hotter or have really good game. If he doesn't have that he can just go to therapy and jerk off to porn, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:11 PM

You're right, life isn't fair and a lot of people get upset about that. Maybe someone was born into a poor family and missed out on experiences because they were working at an early age. Maybe they were born as an ethnicity that made life more difficult. Maybe they were born with a disability that took away a lot of opportunities. Maybe they were born with parents who were abusive or neglectful. Life is full of unfairness, and a lot of people have resentment, projection, and anger who they see a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:41 PM
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You can have all of that and have no problem getting dates if you are hot and/or have game.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:35 PM
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I agree autistic women are at least fuckable. Autistic men otoh should probably stick with an AI gf
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:25 PM
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Cool, most people are like that. Autistic dudes are really only good for programming and taxonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:22 PM
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Lmao you def are autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:21 PM
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There are far more men willing to get into a relationship with an autistic girl than women willing to get into a relationship with an autistic guy. The situations aren't comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:37 PM
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The guys who struggle to get dates aren't unique. A guy who's struggling with dating is ugly, lacks game, or both. The solution for any guy to get more dates is to become more attractive and up their game a bit, or up their game a lot and make themselves a bit more attractive. The only way therapy is going to help if the guy is fat and eats his emotions, or is depressed which makes people not want to be around you. Most people date without needing to go to therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:33 PM
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It comes from the pain of being a young guy and having to jump through a bunch of hoops just to get a girl who might be interested in going on a date with you. And then you see other guys who don't need to do any of that having a pretty easy time getting dates. But then you get a bit older, get a good job and have your own place, and you find that more girls are showing interest in you. Some of those girls are a bit older, looking for a man who can take care of her and future children. Then you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:19 AM
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An example of someone who improved his own life and now helps others improve their lives is HealthyGamerGG
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:44 AM
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I personally wouldn't have an issue with my gf going to a club with her friends, but I can understand why some guys would be uncomfortable with that. If that is something they don't want in a relationship, that's their prerogative. I'm trying to convey to you their perspective. Also, GenZ doesn't go to strip clubs because of internet porn, which is arguably worse than a real-life semi-naked woman, but that's a whole other discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:46 AM
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People can be asked out anywhere, but clubs are unique places where there's alcohol, drugs, dancing, flirting, it's dark, loud music, women wearing a lot less clothing than they would in normal life, etc. The closest thing would to a club, as another poster mentioned, would be a strip "club", but the differences being that none of the women there are actually interested in the men, there's a bit more skin shown, and some of them don't serve alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:30 AM
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Do you know what a club is? I don't think women are getting drunk, dancing, and having to avoid guys trying to flirt and grind on them at Starbucks or a bookstore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:12 AM
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No, your bf has never been to a club where the women treat him with the same attention a girl gets at a club. The only men that get that kind of attention are male celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:04 AM
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Would you be okay with your boyfriend going to a club where the women there were flirting with him, trying to dance with him, buying him drinks, and trying to take him back to her place? Obviously that situation would never happen in real life, but that's how clubs are from the perspective of a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:52 AM
7

If you aren't upfront that you're dating and sleeping with other people, then yes, that's unethical behavior. You both have to be on the same page and can't use the excuse of ambiguity to say it's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:39 PM
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