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They've done some hard hitting stories, like the one about Gen Stanley McChrystal that got him fired.
/r/MensRights06/04/15 09:23 PM
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I had to check on Google and Twitter just to doublecheck to see if this was real. It is.
/r/MensRights25/03/15 09:32 PM
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In you're last paragraph you start trying to make me look crazy for saying we should read objective literature as much as we can, committing the straw man fallacy by saying I'm proposing we all disregard the work of every influential writer. No, I never said we should do that. But when it comes time to place a true/false judgement on their theories and assertions or decide whether we believe what they're saying, we must put their theories through their due paces, and one of the ways we do this i…
/r/MensRights11/03/13 01:25 AM
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You say you agree with the reasoning presented, but you then say you don't know if the premises for said reasoning are true....how can you accept the conclusions as true without checking the premises? I believe the premise because the premise is common knowledge. It's like saying I shouldn't believe MLK advocating Civil Rights until I research the premise that Slavery actually occured. The fact that slavery happened is common knowledge that nobody disputes. Nobody disputes that feminist believe …
/r/MensRights11/03/13 01:20 AM
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And you then misinterpret when i say "don't read things written with political motivation." You took it completely out of context (I don't know how you did that, considering you quoted the whole thing right above...). what I actually said was that you shouldn't read something written with political motivation and accept it as truth. Yes, I said this, and yes, it applies and is important here. If you want to know about feminist theory, go read about feminist theory. I'm not saying you should go a…
/r/MensRights11/03/13 01:11 AM
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I'm not looking to fight? Look I'm not trying to overwhelm you with words or anything. I'm not looking to "win". I honestly don't want to spend all saturday debating you. I just feel I have some points that I need to point out. If you want to call it a day fine. But I do want to finish my rebuttal of your earlier post.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 12:50 AM
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I think there's been a misunderstanding. I asked you if you think rape is about either Rape OR Power. It's a one or the other question. I can assure you most feminists ardently believe "Rape is about Power and Not Sex". In fact I challenge you to find even one feminist who would say otherwise. It's basically one of the pillars of modern feminism. I'm actually shocked you're unsure about this.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 12:47 AM
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You said "Feminists go "MRA's believe in X" or there's lots of articles that start off with "African-Americans think Obama should-". It's not to be taken literally." What do you mean exactly by 'taken literally'? If I read something that started off with either of those statements I'd assume the author meant that most members of the reference class possess whatever belief/quality the article is talking about. Yes, that was a bad choice of words "taken literally". I meant what you wrote, that mos…
/r/MensRights11/03/13 12:40 AM
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I want to try a different approach. I'll do a point by point rebuttal of your response a little later. I just want to get a handle on your views. Do you believe eape is about sex or power? And can we both agree that feminists (the vast majority) believe that rape is about power and not sex? Do you believe rape is a crime similar to something like a mugging or is it more like a hate crime, in line with white southerners lynching blacks back in the Jim Crow South way back when?
/r/MensRights10/03/13 11:41 PM
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First, I've never come across anything that says 'secular creation' is a tenant of feminism (not to say that no such writings exist..). I've never seen it described as "secular creation" but I've seen plenty of feminists argue that gender is learned, not inate and that gender roles are a direct result of society imposing them on us. Also, she argues that rape is not a cultural issue. I don't think it's wise to entirely isolate rape from social factors; behavior and personality is equal parts nat…
/r/MensRights10/03/13 09:09 PM
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That's what I want to know. Feel like he was a kindred spirit.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 11:01 AM
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I did post in the thread also. It's a old thread so I'd basically be talking to myself. I just wanted to let other people know how distasteful I found it.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 11:01 AM
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The reason I found the thread was because I originally was going to post it but Reddit told me it was already posted. I didn't know if that was against Reddit rules reposting something that had been posted. And I did message the three previous participants. Sadly the one I agreed with isn't active anymore. I'd hate to think he got discouraged and left.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 11:00 AM
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You know how subjective "ideology" is? By your logic we shouldn't read any articles from a feminist website because they're all shilling for their ideology dressed as science. I'll read an article from anywhere, be they feminist, Christian, conservative, liberal, MRA, and I'll judge it by the merits of the article not the person themselves. Also the author wasn't arguing against some scientific theory like gravity, she was arguing against rape, which is very hard to prove either way. She used mo…
/r/MensRights10/03/13 07:05 AM
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Did you even read the article? If the article is so flawed, why don't you actually read it and poke holes in it?
/r/MensRights10/03/13 07:02 AM
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Who cares what the website is, how about you read the article and tell us which parts are wrong? You're no different than feminists taking one look at say a website like A Voice for Men and flatout dismissing it because it's a MRA site without reading a single article!
/r/MensRights10/03/13 06:56 AM
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Couldn't agree more.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 12:29 PM
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You guys dissapoint me. This is the perfect article that describes how feminists view rape. Some people don't see brilliance when they see it.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 12:29 PM
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LOL, it's such a childish response to a slight that's largely in their imagination (Seth was mean to womenz!) Right up there with "My dad can beat up your dad".
/r/MensRights25/02/13 10:38 PM
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I remember this episode, I never really thought about the message behind that show. I think it was a more "don't jump to conclusions" and "witness memory may be unreliable" than rights of people accused of rape but it's a good message regardless.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 10:36 PM
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Naivety/ignorance about something makes you weak, and being in the know about something makes you strong. They try to equate Privilege with Ignorance. If you're one of the groups that they deem privileged they try to put you down a peg by saying your privilege blinds you to all the struggles that their oppressed group/gender/race/whatever faces and that makes you naive/stupid/weak.
/r/MensRights03/02/13 08:11 AM
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No I disagree. Not about your leaving but your analysis. I like that this subreddit is broad. I've been on a forum that had a strict Stay on Topic policy and it's no fun and it really discourages people from trying something new or being creative. Let people post want they want and let the users decide whether it's worthy or not, isn't that the point of Reddit? I don't like the term "circlejerk". It's more: there's a lot of inflammatory stuff we MRA's have to put up with, what's so bad about blo…
/r/MensRights01/02/13 11:42 PM
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Don't have time to read the article but it sounds like a lightbulb is going off.
/r/MensRights26/01/13 02:15 AM
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I think it's a good point but I here's the thing. First I doubt having more women in frontline combat is going to single handedly lose us wars. Unfortunatley there might be some real consequences, worst case scenario some female soldiers inability to carry a heavy load or something like that costs another soldier his/her life. BUT the thing is that few people will believe people like the author of this article or scientists or generals that women can't do the same job as men. We have to wait unt…
/r/MensRights25/01/13 11:10 AM
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If you want Selective Service abolished then you should be pro- include women in SS. Because only when women are included will people realize how terrible it is. People don't care about SS now because it's mostly disposable single men who are forced to.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 11:02 AM
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"Hi there. Much like telling a Muslim not to hijack airplanes would be insulting to him, this is very insulting to men. If you are posting this seriously you really need to think about the logic of it. Criminals do not stop doing crimes because a poster or PSA's tells them not to. This will not deter rapists, all it does it insult good, decent men who would never rape." "If you posted this as some kind of satire/joke then shame on you. Joking about rape/mens supposed procolivity to rape is not f…
/r/MensRights14/01/13 12:16 PM
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I'm not going to even dignify that by clicking on it. But from what you all have written it's pretty much what I expected. I don't believe in collective guilt, certainly not for something that's a pretty rare event overall.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 11:25 AM
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I believe these things, they make me feel good, here's some facts that may or may not come from a biased source. If you disagree with me blah blah blah buzz words like "entitled" and "misogynist" + F BOMBS to make me seem powerful and in control. Sadly this type of thing isn't limited to feminists, it's part of a bigger battle between emotion vs reason.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 03:34 AM
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It's discrimination, we don't ban Muslims from planes even if the statistics had shown muslims are a bigger risk than non-muslims (no offense) or raise the insurance rate of asians if it showed that asians were more reckless drivers (I have no idea if this is true I'm just using it as an example, no offense intended). We're suppose to be a society that treats everyone as individuals not as groups.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 11:06 AM
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Michael Moore flat out said this on his Twitter and it really angered me. It's a tragedy but it's no excuse to go nuts and start looking for scapegoats and using it to attack people with whom you have a axe to grind. Unless you have proof he had a problem with women/specifically targeted women its is completley irresponsible for Michael Moore or the media to just float these pet theories.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 10:58 AM
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There's two seperate wrongs at work here. One is that it's just white middle classed men who compose MRAs. The other is that just because one is white or not poor it's ok to marginalize their problems.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 01:32 AM
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Yeah, obviously we don't want to seem like we're making the shooter a victim. Rather in the big picture it helps EVERYONE (men, women, children) if men don't suppress their emotions, get counseling, allowed to talk about their emotional problems without stigma, etc so it doesn't lead to a variety of problems that are epidemic among men. These types of shooters do seem to be only men. I feel like we should recognize this without demonizing all men as potential shooters.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 06:33 AM
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How is that hypocrisy? Circlejerking? Sure, but every community has that. Look I don't mind constructive criticism of the community but I don't think you make a good case. When you get a large group of people you are going to have some irrational or illogical posts. I still think MRM leans towards logic and reason more than not. Also there's a difference between the likeability of a community and whether their core beliefs are right. The feminist community may be the most mean, unpleasant and pi…
/r/MensRights15/12/12 06:27 AM
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Honestly Jezebel is basically the feminist equivalent of Ann Coulter. I don't trust that they're making a honest argument but just putting inflammatory posts for pageviews like all Gawker websites. Its one thing to argue with a feminist who actually belives what they're saying, it's another to argue with a carnival barker who just cares about getting people riled up.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 12:55 AM
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I don't even understand what the author was saying. Since when are feminists for brothels? I have no idea how its working in Holland but I'm all for legalization of prostitution in the United States.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 10:51 AM
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I agree it shouldn't be called rape. But I think many people do this out of frustration because in our culture only certain words gets you instant attention. Words are power.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 10:44 AM
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Assuming this was a major war. Once the military starts to run out of volunteers, they'll just pressure men into volunteering via propoganda and shaming. (Oh you pussy, you're not brave enough to fight for your country). This is EXACTLY what happened in Britian during WWI. They didn't have mandatory conscription so they used shaming and blacklisting (Employers were encouraged not to hire single men of age who didn't enlist) All a volunteer army would do is preserve the status quo while giving wo…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 05:10 AM
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The draft was ended in 1973. Selective Service is a contingency plan in case they need one. As feminists love to point out, it's very unlikely it will be instituted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States With that said I'd like Selective Service applied to both men and women. I bet simply getting the notice that they'll need to sign up and forward their address will be a splash of cold water. You want male privilege? You got it. I read recently that certain female servic…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 05:02 AM
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I love how hatey-mchaterson makes the argument that the draft is an active exclusion of women then permutationofninjas makes the obvious point that if any woman feels "excluded" she can VOLUNTARILY sign up.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 10:32 AM
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It's not so much a rebuttal as basically being a smartass in the reader comments section. But I found this at least worth something. "3. Men haven’t changed much … Except now they don’t have to marry a woman just because she’s gotten pregnant, they aren’t financially responsible for supporting their entire family, they can cry without being called a “faggot," I'm not sure if those are even true, but I interpreted "Men haven't changed" as there hasn't been a mens movement like women had with femi…
/r/MensRights30/11/12 10:05 AM
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John Cheese is a white knight. Pretty sure he wrote some BS article on sexism in comic books where he demonstrated this. The article itself is a joke.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:59 AM
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You mean "Fuck you Colbert" :)
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:20 AM
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Suzanne Venker has hurt not helped men with her article. "All they have to do is surrender to their nature – their femininity – and let men surrender to theirs." Seems more like conservative drivel than any idea that wants to help men. Pretty much giving the liberal media and feminists more ammo to dismiss anything that advocates for men.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:19 AM
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I actually read one of Michael Kimmel's books (Guyland). The guy has a deep hostility to single young men playing video games, as opposed to say being a ATM to a woman and kids. Talk about entitlement.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:08 AM
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A small minority of men will still be at the top. Not because of sexism or the patriarchy because men are biologically more driven to attain money and power (thanks to evolution). The middle class if you will will mainly be composed of college educated women, then lower class women, poor single mothers. Then at the very bottom of the barrell will be undesirable men (single, beta males, unemployed). The men at the top will let the feminists have power as long as it doesn't threaten their own posi…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 02:41 AM
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Even though men overhelmingly support the Republicans they still get disrespected by them. At best apathy at worst this.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 02:29 AM
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It's good advice. But then again if a real breakthrough with MRA comes it's proabably going to come from a person who has let Mens Rights take over their lives. Woman's sufferage, abolition of slavery, civil rights, it's all come from these leaders that give themselves up to the movement. I'm like you but I wouldn't discourage anyone if they really believed in the movement strongly enough for it to consume them.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 03:03 AM
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Right. It exists but it's not due to sexism. It's another one of those things thats a complex issue but is simplified by the masses. I'll use the NBA/WNBA as an example. If you were not a sports fan, knew nothing of how professional sports worked and just looked at the data you'd come to the conclusion that there is a huge wage gap between male and female basketball players, which then of course not understanding anything else, must be a result of sexism.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 03:18 AM
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I'm so glad you posted this, I was going to do the same thing. This group has the absolute best arguments against feminism, social justice bloggers. Every MRA should have this site bookmarked. It absolutley tears me up that this person isn't well known. The guy is an absolute master at debate.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 03:03 AM
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A war that requires a draft in America would be terrible. But one of the few positives would be that men realize how outrageous selective service and the draft is. I predict when that day comes the interest in MRA will explode. Again hope that day never comes but sometimes it takes something horrible for needed social change to happen.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 04:21 AM
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That's pretty blatant. I don't think even feminists would want this. (Maybe I'm being naive.) It'd just backfire.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 04:17 AM
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"That’s exactly what most tumblr social justice amounts to. They see (perceived) oppression and try to make the “oppressors” feel bad about themselves to get some sort of sick moral satisfaction. Whether it’s being male, able-bodied, straight, thin, white, cisgender, or whatever else, they are right there to make you feel bad and hate you for it. Apparently Tumblr’s brand of justice is not to bring the less privileged up a notch, but to attack those they perceive as more privileged. By whatever …
/r/MensRights21/11/12 01:27 AM
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I read about Emmeline Pankhurst in "To End All Wars" an excellent book about WWI and the pacificst movement by Adam Hochschild. She was a total psychopath, as the article notes, using arson and vandalism to pester the government to giving woman sufferage. A real feminist terrorist. The most outrageous is the public shaming campaign on single men that the British government initiated. Single men who did not enlist were blacklisted from all jobs and women were encouraged not to marry them for bein…
/r/MensRights21/11/12 01:11 AM
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That's not misogyny. At best sexist and understandable to let off some steam when you see this kind of article. For you to use that word so carelessly in the Mensrights reddit is pretty ridiculous.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 01:05 AM
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Paraphrasing: "Have you been mocked for something that a misogynist society sees as feminizing?" Male virgin shaming. Women get mocked if they have too many sexual partners, men if they don't have enough. Flip sides of the same coin. "Even when large men are mocked they are referred to as having man boobs". So if a woman gets made fun of for having hairy armpits or legs or big muscles then that's proof of a misandrist society right?
/r/MensRights20/11/12 03:05 AM
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Most of the issues here don't directly affect me. Mostly I'm a MRA because I think they have the truth on their side and the feminists are not only wrong but insufferable and arrogant I can't let a group like that go unchallenged. I am a man but I'd like to think I'd still be a MRA even if I was a woman. It's not about my personal experiences or biases it's about the truth.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 11:26 AM
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It really makes my blood boil.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 11:21 AM
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Honestly I don't see this as being anti-man or boy. The pronoun thing seems over the top but I think it is a good idea to treat boys the same as girls when they're crying or allowing them to play with dolls. It's not gonna turn them gay or effeminate, it'll just let them be more emotionally open men which is healthy.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 03:51 AM
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I hope you asked the same question to feminists.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 03:40 AM
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You worded the question in a way that's very difficult to answer, for me at least. I can think of plenty of things I agree with feminists (birth control, abortion rights to an extent) but I find it hard to think of a privilege that men have that women don't that's not the result of nature/evolution but institutional privilege.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 06:49 AM
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You have nothing to worry about. It's not like not signing it means you don't get drafted. There's a very low chance of war where a draft would be implemented in the US IMO although you can never say never. But I think the chance of a criminal prosecution for not registering for SS is greater than a war starting and you getting drafted. On the front of Mens Rights, African-American men wanted enlist and fight in wars to prove they were equal to whites, Japanese-American men fought in the Europea…
/r/MensRights14/11/12 06:32 AM
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I haven't read the whole book but I read a good chunk of it and despite the provacative title a lot of what The End of Men says is completley in line with what MRA's argue. If you changed the tone of the book you could easily be fooled into thinking it's a book by Christina Hoff Sommers. I think she should get some credit because despite being a feminist she's telling the truth even when it's not compatible with the perpetual victim mentality of feminists.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 04:53 AM
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This is something that I don't think gets talked about enough in the MR community. You have to be careful about expressing these ideas, not because they are wrong but a lot of people simply cannot have a rational discussion about this. It's like being a atheist in a really religous town. You quite possibly might end up a pariah and you might feel very isolated. It's great you feel passionate enough about MR to speak up but remember making yourself feel miserable isn't helping anyone. Pick and ch…
/r/MensRights13/11/12 06:48 AM
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That is a long article. I read the start but lost interest. I think the thing I got out of it is that if Feminists were somehow able to acquire total power over this country and implemented all the reforms they wanted, it wouldn't make the majority of women one iota happier than they are now. It's like salt water, the more you drink the thirstier you get.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 06:39 AM
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Feminism has a huge head start over MR. Giving support to egalitarianism would still put men at a disadvantage. Also it's kind of a branding issue. Egalitarianism just doesn't have the clarity as a MENS rights.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 11:51 PM
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You need feminism because your roomate voted for Romney? So basically feminism is a giant thumb for you to suck when you're upset. "I need feminism because the barista got my order wrong"
/r/MensRights12/11/12 11:43 PM
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Come on, this one is a bit silly.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 05:27 AM
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It depends on the venue but sometimes you need to debate them. Even atheists debate religious nuts sometimes.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 10:41 AM
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The irony is that if we elect a female president she'll prob pay lip service to mens issues to avoid being labeled as "only caring about women". Similar to how Obama never did much for the black community while Dubya did a lot for the black community and even Africa.
/r/MensRights10/11/12 05:29 AM
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I'm not clicking on a Perez Hilton article.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 10:16 PM
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I'm not going to begrudge a 9 year old girl for being good at football, it kinda is a amazing story. But you for every girl like her there's prob thousands of girls that can't make the cut. Those don't get reported because it'd hurt womens feelings and if they did report on it they'd just make up some theory on how society brainwashes girls into thinking they're not good at football.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 10:26 AM
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If a woman became President you know how much of a freak show that would be? You'd naturally think feminists will be happy. Feminists will NEVER be happy. Once the initial jubilation is gone they'll spend all their time waiting for some idiot to make a inappropriate remark about her then get all righteously indignant about it. "So-and-so on Twitter called President Warren a cunt, even when the woman is President of the United States the patriarchy still refuses to treat her as a human being".
/r/MensRights08/11/12 06:33 AM
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Its like if everyone owned guns, maybe you hate guns but if you don't own a gun you're at a disadvantage. I don't want men to play the cynical special interest game and become a tribe like women, gay/lebians, african-americans and hispanics but it seems we must out of self-preservation. Its not like I'm hoping we get a MRA President but at least be enough of a voting bloc that presidential candidates will at least pay lip service to us. Nothing too excessive, how about a simple "I care about men…
/r/MensRights08/11/12 06:27 AM
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This is prob the best tactic for the feminists. If they were to have a honest debate they'd lose and then they'd have personal crisis. It's not easy to realize your whole belief system is a sham.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 09:13 AM
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"Use a Buddy System! It is inconvinient for you to stop yourself from raping people, ask a trusted friend to accompany you at all times." Actually a buddy system would just result in you and your male friend teaming up to perform a gang rape which would be worse. Sorry but ridiculous tips deserves a ridiculous response.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 06:24 AM
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I doubt they'd boo that. I agree with equal pay for equal work, just prove that's what it is first.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 05:02 AM
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Sad, but I blame men. Present company excepted. Men who cares about mens rights need to become a bigger voting bloc. We'll never be as big as womens groups but at least get to the point where men are acknowledged. It's laughable we don't even get a token "I care about men" from the candidates.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 01:18 AM
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Pretty much how we all feel. Breast Cancer has been politicised. Its not longer about helping people but about the kotowing to womens groups. Forget prostate cancer, how about a non-gender specific cancer? Think the NFL would ever do something about that? Of course not, that would appeal to everyone instead of a specific consumer group they want to exploit. If it was a honest attempt to help fight breast cancer I'd be all for it, but its just a craven attempt at cash. Of course this is a sentime…
/r/MensRights06/11/12 09:49 PM
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Christ, I didn't even know this happened. They changed the stimulus bill because they thought too many were going to men? That is absolutley outrageous.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 10:42 AM
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Those reasons aren't sexist but generally with a headline like that I thought they were referring to men who have low social status/low paying job/passive. "Losers". Its fine if you call them losers and don't want to date them but the hypocrisy comes in when they then criticise men who only want to date younger, attractive women. Subconsciously they're doing what they're genetically programmed to do (women go for high status men to ensure they and they're offspring's survival, men go for women w…
/r/MensRights06/11/12 07:46 AM
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Since they can't disprove the evidence the feminist tactic will now be to discredit Sommers by labeling her as a right wing conservative so they can safely ignore her.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 07:38 AM
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My issue with feminism is that many feminists lie, aren't open minded about any differing opinions (dogmatic in other words) and flip between playing victims in certain situations while being bullies in others when its fits the situation. But my biggest issue is with feminism is that nobody seems to call them out. I don't like right wing conservatives either but I take solace in the fact there's always a lot of people willing to call out their BS. Feminism seems to be protected by this liberal n…
/r/MensRights05/11/12 04:33 AM
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Yes we wouldn't want inconvinent books on how women are doing better than men get people to have crazy ideas like how men might be struggling. Better disprove it quickly before people actually start to be concerned about men and gasp have sympathy for them.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 09:48 AM
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Why blame Wikipedia? I'm not expert but it's mainly a battle of wills. You get in a dispute with someone over an article, ask a Wikipedia mod to arbitrate, present evidence, then they make their decision. It's like a court battle.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 09:27 AM
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I'm all for it but the problem is all it takes is one extremist on either side to poison the well and it's back to "Oh all feminists/MRA's are like that, screw them".
/r/MensRights31/10/12 05:20 AM
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Men harassing women is wrong period, that has nothing to do with feminism. If men are getting away with harassing women in the South I would say jerks have it better in the South not men.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:45 PM
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I watch the old episodes of Married with Children and think it could never be made today. No doubt some feminist blog will try to get it cancelled because they were butthurt by some fat woman joke by Al!
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:20 AM
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I believe in equal legal rights and equal opportunity. I don't believe in "equal rights" if by that you mean pretending we live in a planet of androgynous beings with minor differences in genetalia and reproductive capability that are taught by society roles of "men" and "women". Men and women are inherently different beings, this is not because of society, the patriarchy, parents, etc. This is caused by biology, by evolution. So if your definition of "equal" is a literal equal it's never going …
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:17 AM
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I think you're taking the completley wrong approach. When hit with this insult/accusation you shouldn't brag how much of a stud you are and all the various women you've slept with but you should point out that it's completley irrelevant how much sex a man has or how great a job he has. What they should focus on is the strength or weakness of his argument. If someone calls you gay as an insult and you vehmently deny it you're essentially validating their worldview that being gay is wrong. You sho…
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:05 AM
5

Aurinegro fans, however, were incensed by their club's attempts to try and make them aware of breast cancer Funny guy. Maybe it was because their traditional jerseys were changed because of a stupid marketing campaign. This isn't about breast cancere awareness it's about sucking up to the female consumer. I'm glad the Venezuelan fans responded to this bullshit unlike the majority of NFL fans. Also cannot stop mentioning the stupidity of campaigning against breast cancer in a area (mens sports) w…
/r/MensRights30/10/12 02:04 AM
4

It's definitley a mens issue. Men are the overwhelming customers in prostitution and they're being denied this because of some very dubious reasons. I don't know if I'd label it a "Mens RIGHTS issue" because that makes it sound like if I'm demanding it as a right and that just makes it open to ridicule. But I think it's a important male issue and I definitley think it should be discussed more in the MRA.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 11:58 PM
1

I think this does bring up a good point, in that people always focus on the race when this type of stuff happens. Like when a black person is closely watched at a store or something. But it's just as much about the guys gender as it is about race.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 05:33 AM
8

Ok this is a question I've always wanted to ask. What is the motivation? What is in the heart and mind of the male boss that makes him give less money to female employees? Does the male boss just not like being around women? Is he so old fashioned that he only wants to hire men cuz he thinks they're more competent? I just find it difficult to imagine why a male boss would risk a lawsuit to screw women out of money.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 01:33 AM
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I'm always happy to see fellow rational people try to have a civilized debate with people they disagree with. Women are inherently physically weaker and have been oppressed in most societies, either in the past or currently. These are things we can agree on(hopefully). I can think of some example against the "oppressed" part but sure, let's say on the aggregate women have been oppressed historically. Never seeing this world from a female perspective, you all think women in today's culture to alr…
/r/MensRights29/10/12 01:25 AM
0

Yup that's the thing that I can't get over. Obviously nobody is anti-breast cancer awareness. We all have mothers, sisters, significant others. But it's just a slap in the face to men that the NFL, a league that only exists because of the support of MEN since the beginning and still has men as the majority of its fans doesn't do something similar for prostate cancer. It's honestly just a naked attempt to appeal to women so they can sell more pink jerseys, there's no altruistic motive. It's all a…
/r/MensRights29/10/12 12:43 AM
7

It's shameless pandering just as bad as the right does with christian conservatives.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 12:37 AM
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Sometimes I wonder if this isn't the result of a female ignorance over male sexuality. Obviously rape is wrong, but just like if you've never experienced hunger in your life you can't understand a homeless man who steals food a woman can't understand why a man would rape other than some crude way to control women. Rape is a complicated thing but at the core it is sex at the center, that's the trigger. Other ingridients are being a sociopath and such but it's the sexual aspect that women simply d…
/r/MensRights27/10/12 07:37 AM
22

Wow that sucks. I was a virgin for a long time so I can emphathize. Male virgins have it so rough, there's such a intense peer, societal and (obviously) biological pressure to lose it. It seems you got caught up with the absolute wrong person in a very vulnerable time in your life. Really sorry to read that, hope you do meet someone nice in the near future.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 06:20 AM
8

Boy are we going to do this for every post now? How about some leeway? Just downvote if you don't think its on-topic.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 05:29 AM
8

I saw a NY Times article about how women are unable to do as many pushups as men in a scientific study. It's gotten to the point where I'm surprised that article got published. Who cares about facts and science if its hurts female egos?
/r/MensRights26/10/12 05:26 AM
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I've thought about it and I feel people saying something on their mind even if it's 100% on topic is invaluable. Maybe it's superflous but I sometimes they bring a lot of interesting ideas to the discussion. Turning this place into a strict MENS ISSUES ONLY would make it boring as hell.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 07:30 PM
4

That's kinda misleading though. Those running corporations are men but they don't identify politically as men. For example it's not like they're sitting in their boardrooms thinking "How can we help men? "How can we make sure the patriarchy doesn't dissapear?" They care about themselves and their corporations. That's where they put their lobbying $ at. And they screw working class men proabably more than they screw working class women. So it's technically true human beings who happen to be male …
/r/MensRights25/10/12 07:20 PM
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Bye. You won't be missed. You barge in here call everyone who doesn't fit your narrow definition of Mens Rights "pussies" "misogynist pussies" and ask "have your balls dropped yet?" Fuck You, maybe there's some superficial stuff here but at least most of us treats each other with respect. I'd rather have that then some asshole who insults everyone because the discussion isn't exactly as he wants it to be.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 06:56 PM
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Or you could take the 2 seconds it takes to explain. I don't know it either so I was hoping someone would actually EXPLAIN.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 06:48 PM
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You can, but feminism has become identified so strongly with gender feminism that it just creates confusion and too much explaination. It like wearing a shirt with a swastika but a traditional east asian swastika and not the Nazi swastika. You'll get so many angry people and comments it's better to just ditch the baggage of the swastika and use something else. (and I'm not equating feminism to naziism, it's honesty the best example I could think of for this situation)
/r/MensRights24/10/12 11:44 PM
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I don't think a feminist would ever argue women want equal pay regardless of lifestyle choices, they've entrenched themselves in the fact that women are always equal to men, sometimes superior, but never inferior. So they'll argue something completley crazy like women work as hard/harder than men even with kids. When confronted with evidence disproving the gender wage gap they've either said other studies show that even figuring lifestyle differences into the math it still doesn't account for th…
/r/MensRights24/10/12 11:40 PM
4

Republicans are no better. Even if they don't actively promote feminist policies they inadvertently do the gender feminist's bidding by being a real-life strawman. All those dumb comments about rape and opposing birth control is fuel for gender feminists.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 11:35 PM
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Here's a book for this topic. Why Men Earn More: The Startling Truth Behind the Pay Gap -- and What Women Can Do About It http://www.amazon.com/dp/0814472109/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_3.3Hqb0F79PW2
/r/MensRights24/10/12 05:44 AM
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I'm sure if you did a study you'd find that most of the time its teen girls who cyberbully other teen girls. But nice try trying to put pedophilia, voyeurism and cyberbullying into one "its mens fault" package.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 03:23 AM
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I have to disagree with that. A world dominated by women would proabably have less wars and less conflict but on the other hand would proabably be a lot less dynamic in terms of technology, innovation, entertainment.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 05:47 AM
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I would fight for women if I thought the pay gap was due to pure discrimination. But it doesn't make sense to me. Just on practical terms what motivation does a boss have in paying his female employees less? He's going to risk a lawsuit because he's just that sexist? It just makes more sense that the pay gap is more about womens choices, and proabably because the top 1% schew the average. I'd like to see a comparison of middle class working men to middle class working women.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 12:40 AM
5

Obviously that kind of behavior is despicable. Assuming it went exactly as she describes it (and I have no reason to doubt her at this point).
/r/MensRights19/10/12 11:08 PM
4

Its just politics, women are a special interest group. It's really irrelevant what they honestly believe they'll say anything for votes.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 01:47 AM
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These two clowns make me laugh. Obama: "the wage gap is important because women are frequently the bread winners these days." Yeah think about that Barry, maybe it's because more men are unemployed than women. Pretty soon the wage gap (myth) will be irrelevant because there wont' be many college educated men. Romney: "I asked my staff why all these people who applied were men and they said they were the only ones qualified so I said well let's find some women." LOL Mittens admitted only the men …
/r/MensRights17/10/12 01:44 AM
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Wow, I can understand if they wanted to keep this for kids/younger fans but ALL males? Even like a 10 year old? I'm sure a band like One Direction has young male fans. Just pure sexism, it's not even borderline.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 10:35 PM
1

I kinda agree but I think its kinda the chicken and the egg. More men have to organize and form a sizeable voting group (specifically branded for men's issues) before the media takes us seriously.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 06:19 AM
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Well then women would have to fight the wars because men would be much to valuable to society.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 07:34 AM
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I don't think I neccessarily buy his argument. If a woman just says "That guy treats me disrespectfully" she's not going to get the same attention as "That guy treats me disrespectfully because I'm a woman". I dont' think it's out-of-bounds to say the second statement. I hate too bring this up because it's used so often but think of the civil rights movement and african-americans. They wouldn't have gotten anywhere if they just left race off the table and tried to deal with it as individuals. No…
/r/MensRights14/10/12 06:44 AM
18

I appreciate it when women challenge other women on this stuff. When woman argues this stuff it's a "Only Nixon could go to China" type situation.
/r/MensRights13/10/12 05:17 AM
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Not even worth a response, don't give him the pageviews.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 08:38 PM
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There's a number of reasons. Most men are hardscore NFL fans and aren't going anywhere while women have to be wooed to watch games. Same reason why independents and undecideds get the bulk of attention during voting season. Men don't organize or speak up about these types of things as well as women. And women are naturally more sympathetic. Plus Pink is just a lot more marketable then whatever color men would get. I'm mostly frustrated at men. Male NFL fans need to complain about this to the NFL…
/r/MensRights05/10/12 02:25 AM
5

Wow and I thought womens issues were dominating this election cycle. Apparently if you go even one debate without talking about women it's unacceptable. God forbid we talk about androcentric issues like taxes and the economy. But that's the thing with these advocacy groups, they never say they are satisfied because admitting that would hurt their cause. They must be always in a siege mentality. "Nobody respects us, everyone ignores us, we're the victims. We're mad and we're not going to take it …
/r/MensRights04/10/12 06:18 PM
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I was listening to sports radio and heard about this. Sadly the radio host thought the fact he didn't press charges and forgave his accuser was a honorable thing. If he doesn't want to press charges I fully respect that but I don't think it's anything to praise him for. Only when one of these despicable women get nailed in a high profile case will other women think twice before pulling something like this.
/r/MensRights20/09/12 07:18 AM
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