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you_done_messed_up/r/askMRP15/02/16 03:40 PM
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Trump's genius, as Scott Adams routinely points out (seriously, read his blog, its the only thing that makes Trump make sense) +1 to this. It's an amazing read.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 02:03 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:08 AM
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I feel like I have been RP for a year with her So you had the information... The problem now is she's 6 months pregnant. ...yet you did this. Dude, this was a huge mistake, you dug yourself deeper into this hole. Time to buckle up, you're going to be playing on 'ultrahard' mode for a while.
/r/askMRP27/05/16 07:05 AM
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She is on an SSRI. You probably know this but this kills her libido. The effects can last several months after she stops taking them. It doesn't mean that you shouldn't better yourself, but don't expect her to jump on your cock anytime soon.
/r/askMRP23/05/16 02:14 PM
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You asked about "ideals, not reality". In a dream world they get love for who they are. :) In our universe, men are disposable, because sperm is cheap. Males are only useful as long as they perform.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 10:22 AM
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Well, yes. I have never seen an attractive, confident, strong guy have these kind of issues with relationships. Yet billionaires, celebrities, top 1% men still get cheated on and/or divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 09:30 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 09:26 AM
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In a dream world: without the burden of performance. Or in other words: A man wants to be loved for who he is, not for what he does in order to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 09:22 AM
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One problem: once robots reach that level of sophistication, neither John, nor Jane will have jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 07:06 AM
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I don't disagree! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 11:47 AM
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No. I just think that shit testing is to a large extent an involuntary thing that women instinctively do. Not unlike men checking out butts or cleavages. And I think in a marriage or a long enough relationship (say 2+ years) they will happen no matter what. It's good to be aware of them, but I think it's the husband who needs to learn to deal with them properly, instead of requiring the wife never to do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 10:48 AM
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Do I understand that the idea is to make women voluntarily stop shit testing? Does that really work in a LTR? For me it's hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 09:04 AM
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I think it's true, TRP falls into this trap. Ironically so does TBP. :) Or any other ideological group, liberals, conservatives, religious groups, atheists etc. It's human nature. But to some extent this is nothing but the NAWALT / AWALT discussion again. There are 2 things to remember. In mainstream society it's taboo or at least politically incorrect to criticize women as a group. This is not true for men. Another important thing: the men that RP tries to help are especially prone to default t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 06:04 AM
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If this is a troll, it must be a dedicated one based on the post history.
/r/MarriedRedPill14/05/16 08:08 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 12:26 PM
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Depends. Do you blame a successful businessman for giving in to his urges, thinking with his dick, fucking the young dumb assistant and after it comes to light losing his family, his wealth and his business in the divorce process? He just followed his biological programming that urges him towards seeking out new, young pussy. All of us have to control our animal brains to some extent to function well in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:37 AM
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If your husband gets plenty of good sex he most likely doesn't need MRP. Keep up the good work. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 12:07 AM
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The possibility of divorce needs to be on the table. If the husband refuses to consider it as an option, it gives the wife too much power in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 11:44 PM
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I think being an "expert on marriage" is a very low bar. :) Mainstream marriage fixing advice is absolutely crap. When you see the same stories playing out in marriages around you (MRP members are much older on average than TRP) on /r/marriedredpill, /r/deadbedrooms etc. you start recognizing a lot of the patterns that repeat over and over. And when you start having those "HOLY SHIT THIS WORKS! THIS ACTUALLY WORKS!!" moments, it does transform you. Nothing makes you a believer more than when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 11:36 PM
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Most of the /r/marriedredpill population was in a failing marriage, started looking for solutions to fix it and found the red pill somehow. They want to avoid the consequences of a divorce (if possible): financial devastation, not seeing your kids etc. I personally think that most of the MRP population would not get married again with the knowledge they have now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 11:10 PM
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I think women are hopelessly romantic when it comes to the tingle inducing alphas, but totally pragmatic when it comes to betas. This.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 11:30 AM
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BP in this context means the status quo, the mainstream view, the default conditioning a median person gets in Western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 08:39 PM
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This gets emphasized in RP not because men's love is truly unconditional in the absolute sense but because female love is much, much more conditional than most men believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 08:09 PM
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For me the irony is how all those 36 retweeters actually contribute to making the red pill more widely known. That's how I personally found RP: someone online described it as the worst evil since Hitler or sth along those lines and it made me curious, so I looked it up. I owe that person a hug and a lot of money for helping to save my marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 04:37 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 09:48 AM
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Holy shit. This.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/03/16 04:45 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 03:56 PM
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I don't live in the US. TRP =/= RP Yes, TRP is somewhat obsessed with US college culture. But concepts like hypergamy, SMV, preselection, AWALT, shit tests don't stop working at the US border. Women like muscles and dominance, dislike nice guys, hamster, play the victim and blame shift all over the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 07:20 AM
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I wish there was good, easy to link advice to give the thousands of men on /r/deadbedrooms besides red pill stuff. There is red pill "light" in the form of No More Mr. Nice Guy Married Man Sex Life Primer Mindful Attraction Plan These are very watered down but already labeled as "abusive". And of course there is PUA stuff for what it's worth. Much tamer than red pill but already carrying a stigma in the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 04:14 PM
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The argument is always "women choose to work lower income jobs,no privilege here", That's not the real reason. It's that women put a premium on time flexibility. "women have privilege because men choose to work more dangerous jobs" Men are disposable. This is biologically ingrained. It spans history and cultures. Men are expected to risk their lives for their tribe, for the women and children. If you're not ready to do that, you're not considered a real man. Female lives are more valuable, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 12:29 PM
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I think I was a fairly average dude in my younger years. Neither less, neither more successful with girls than people around me. But I was definitely a Nice Guy until very recently. Not in the /r/niceguys caricature sense but in the No More Mr. Nice Guy sense. putting other people's needs and happiness ahead of mine covert contracts, victim pukes not setting boundaries, choosing to avoid conflict instead etc. You see these symptoms on a lot of males at /r/deadbedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 08:10 AM
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Where's the evidence that's it's biological? If it's a trend that spans history and different cultures, than it's a good indication that it's biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 08:26 PM
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It's biology. It's encoded in the female firmware for a good reason. It's about making sure that there are resources available to provide for one's offspring. Shallow? It doesn't really make sense to judge it that way. We love to eat fatty and sugary foods for evolutionary reasons. Is the enjoyment of chocolate shallow? Is the enjoyment of sex shallow when we're using contraceptives and can't have children? Is wanting to have babies shallow? Is prioritizing the needs of our own children in favor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 05:57 PM
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It's her female privilege to use victim mentality and her tears to get what she wants. But that's a crutch. I don't want her to have no tools beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 05:03 PM
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The bad news is that you dug yourself really deep into this hole. The good news is that you found the right place for help. It's going to be one hell of a ride!
/r/askMRP02/03/16 02:38 PM
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Your wife commands you around in your own house in a disrespectful tone and you oblige her singing a song in your head? She has complete authority over you. She has zero respect for you as a man. You either need to be in that room because you have a reason or not. I thought nothing of it. Are you sure? Is it possible that you were upset that she's bullying you around? You need to set boundaries. You need to tell her that she can't be disrespectful with you in your own fucking house. Locking you …
/r/askMRP02/03/16 02:13 PM
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I did something miniscule to put her under pressure, she asked me (like a bitch) to go away so she could finish what she was doing [...] I walked into the other room and waited until she was finished, this was about 15 seconds (no harm done), I remain in frame. o.O That's not what frame is. This was the opposite.
/r/askMRP02/03/16 01:50 PM
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Maybe not everything is a shit test and it's okay to go out with your girl once in a while. Movie nights can be fun. If you don't like the movies she picks, you can pick better movies yourself and suggest them next time. Or even better, take her somewhere even more fun. Lifting is no excuse to be boring.
/r/askMRP02/03/16 10:24 AM
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We can't help but get older and we are afraid men won't love us anymore when that happens. The fact that older men chase after very young women is a painful reminder of this. Refreshingly honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 10:08 AM
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It tells them to spend more time alone I think the opposite is true. You're supposed to go out and improve your social game. Approach strangers etc. Understanding social / group dynamics and getting practice is an important part of learning how to AMOG, which is crucial to game.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 09:22 AM
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I don't think it's a conscious decision men make after weighing pros and cons. The male preference for female virgins spans across time and cultures. (Bible, Quran etc.) Most likely biologically encoded.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 10:57 PM
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I only have a preteen daughter. What I'm currently trying to teach her is to try and solve problems without resorting to using her tears, getting herself wrapped up in a victim role and constantly trying to find other people to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 08:17 PM
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I don't think this entitlement is exclusive to men, just like getting raped isn't exclusive to women, but since we're by far the vast majority of the victims of this lifestyle we appear to be more entitled. I used to think that this was overwhelmingly a male issue. But after spending a lot of time on /r/DeadBedrooms I see that probably half or more (I didn't really count) of sexually frustrated posters are girlfriends or wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 08:10 PM
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I think your wife, and everyone else for that matter, should accept the immutable law that people who rave about the fabulous quality of their lives on social media really don't have such a fabulous quality of life as they're so busy documenting it rather than living it. My favorite video about this: A Trip to Italy
/r/MarriedRedPill01/03/16 01:14 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 12:10 PM
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The red pill is a model. It doesn't have to be 'true' for it to be useful, just give (on average) better predictions than the next best available model. See The Relativity of Wrong by Isaac Asimov
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:59 PM
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This. When women say these traits or behaviors are attractive (it can be altruism or choreplay or whatever) they imagine if they'd like an attractive man doing it. Is Ryan Gosling sexy when he's being altruistic? Sure! Can a guy, who is otherwise not attractive to a woman get in her pants by being altruistic? Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:31 AM
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Don't listen to fat feminists. Watch the advertising industry and anything that's marketed for women in a sexualized context.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 08:28 PM
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You're currently an unattractive guy in these ways (overweight / timid / whiny / badly dressed / badly groomed / boring / etc.) and you could improve by doing X, Y, Z...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 07:29 PM
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I really like the /r/girlsmirin sub. Women around me often actively deny that they like muscle and bodybuilder type guys, but I do catch them slip and making the mirin' faces exactly like in this video. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 05:09 PM
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So there was this dude (father of 5?) who fucked 3 different women (and rejecting a fourth) in one day and told you the details exactly how and in what hole and you post it on the internet? It sounds a bit like some red pill fanfic to me. Either that or if this guy is for real his life should be turned into a movie.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/02/16 04:55 PM
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What I'd be interested in is if women do this in environments where there is guaranteed to be no man around or do they get "sloppier", i.e. less effort going into makeup / clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 04:16 PM
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While I don't discount the social pressures for children, my experience with my wife and friends is that "baby rabies" is very real. I also saw it up close (friends, relatives) with women in their mid-late 30s. In some cases it's tearing them apart mentally and sometimes health wise. It's very, VERY real.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 10:55 AM
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It is extremely accurate Are you sure?
/r/MarriedRedPill26/02/16 10:03 AM
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I was kind of hoping you had a story where a guy approached you on your period and you didn't reject him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 07:25 PM
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When you were on your period and you didn't reject the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 06:49 PM
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I have ever rejected a man because of my period So what happened then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 06:16 PM
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...or move to another country with a different culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 04:15 PM
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/red-pill-mens-rights-anti-feminist-group-who-know-what-women-want/ This was interesting. I actually expected worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 03:15 PM
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Isn't this post drifting a bit far from sex / gender discussions?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 02:33 PM
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I don't know why red pillers would ever care about /r/thebluepill. I looked at it 3 times in my life and I saw zero value. Is it satire? Is it outrage porn? ¯\(ツ)/¯ How does it matter? Where is the obsession with that subreddit coming from?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 12:23 PM
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The traditional tools for most unfucked men (single or married) in the West to numb themselves are: porn video games alcohol / drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 10:49 AM
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Yes, it is a heuristic. It's also horrible advice for the median guy who needs it most -- i.e. one who is unsuccessful with women. If you have a buddy with bad hair, always wearing the same faded Slayer T-shirt, who responds to most questions with shrugs and grunts and asks you to give him advice to land that job interview at the IT department of a bank, you shouldn't tell him "just be yourself". And just like with job interviews, there are tons of books and resources full of tips on how you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 10:05 AM
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Polygraphs?? That's a thing?
/r/MarriedRedPill25/02/16 08:02 AM
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Yep. Once I understood that women value feelz over truth, it made much more sense. That's why it's important to watch their actions, not their words.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 07:24 AM
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I've seen a couple of threads on here about LL being caused by anti-deps. My wife is on them too and it did absolutely kill her sex drive. People will tell you that it doesn't matter because if you're super-alpha Chad, she'll jump on your dick regardless of any hormone level and medication, but that's not true. You need to talk to her doctor, because if your wife's depressed she won't want to fuck you either. BTW afaik, anti-depressants have a horrible track record and are mostly bullshit. But I…
/r/askMRP24/02/16 11:08 PM
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Also, the score's now, what... 700,602,435 for automation worriers looking at the first effect of automation... and 0 for automation worriers looking at any effects beyond that. The problem with inductive thinking like this ("Psssh, it's fine because it has always been fine.") is that if the horses were more intelligent they would have thought the same. "Hah, there will always be jobs for us!" Until there weren't. I'm also sure that if the dinosaurs would have had been intelligent they would hav…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/16 09:42 PM
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No, because I'm a man full of testosterone. If she's a body builder or a dominatrix I might need a drink or two first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 06:06 PM
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Call center jobs are already disappearing, gradually replaced by automation.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/16 03:34 PM
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women get tingles from men cooking, cleaning and baking Bullshit. Anyone who believes this hasn't been to /r/DeadBedrooms Choreplay makes you a better roommate, but doesn't generate attraction where there was none. Do women like a manchild who can't take care of himself and needs a mom to clean up after him? Hell no, it's a huge turnoff. Would women want Ryan Gosling to cook for them and clean their apartment? Absolutely. Can you get into women's panties with cooking / cleaning if they are other…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 10:43 AM
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You can't stop shit testing, you're a woman. It would be like training your boyfriend to absolutely never look at other women's butts or cleavages. It's your boyfriend who needs to learn handling your shit tests in the appropriate way. All he needs is some know how (available on RP pages and in books) and some practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 10:00 AM
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There is almost no actual hard data for human sexuality and attraction that matters for the red / blue positions, because it's almost impossible to produce. Even when there is data it doesn't matter because it's human nature to discard anything that questions our existing views. Typically the red piller will present someone with evidence for their theory Thing is for sexual dynamics you will never have really hard data. Even when you do lab experiments for example, the applicability of the resul…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 09:37 AM
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A lot of women think this way, but it's impossible to really do much about it because they don't even realize they think this way. You just act happier and happier, she just gets pissier and pissier mostly because she wishes she could just operate with a healthy and constructive mind like you do, but she's jealous and resentful she can't, and it's easier to try and bring you down instead of figuring out her mental shit to stop thinking this way This. This is my wife. She says things like: "I jus…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/02/16 07:08 AM
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Anytime. ;)
/r/MarriedRedPill23/02/16 08:10 PM
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You make /r/theredpill sound like a social movement. But IMO the anti-feminist grumbling is just a side show. It's a subreddit with advice for men on how to be more sexually successful with women. As long as the advice they give is working well enough (compared to other easy to access sources of tips), the community will keep growing. Someone offers better advice somewhere else? It'll slowly fade away. It actually reminds me of /r/keto which also goes along the mainstream thinking on how to lose…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 03:38 PM
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I don't believe this. It's been mentioned that there are also demographics to consider. A man can be killing it at the Ernst & Young company xmas party but be completely out of his element at the beach or at an emo rock concert. If a man approaches a woman, talks to her, but is rejected for a date/further interactions, this is because his X, Y, Z attributes in sexual value were not high enough. If this man had a higher level of X, Y, Z attributes, the woman would not have rejected him. This is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 10:12 AM
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It's spelled libido.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/02/16 09:36 AM
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Preach!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 05:45 PM
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Old man high five!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 03:42 PM
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Yep. Sending my kids to college soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 01:10 PM
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Stating the obvious, but it's going to be impossible to get actual data on this. One data point: me 17 w/ gf 16. what else makes a better justification for the anger phase? Dead bedroom. Sometimes I feel like I'm one of the oldest people on PPD. Y'all sound like college students to me. Or under 30 anyway. http://imgur.com/FJJErCi
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 12:03 PM
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Q4RedPillers: In your time on PPD and/or other more "blue" sites have you learned anything of substance or value from BluePillers, "mainstreamers" or other critics of TRP? Not really, but I'm keeping myself open to the possibility (it's only been a few months). Caveat: I don't consider myself the core TRP audience, the stuff on /r/marriedredpill is much more mature and level headed to me. I learn a lot from /r/divorce and /r/deadbedrooms though. Highly recommend them to anyone interested in how …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:59 AM
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This.
/r/MarriedRedPill19/02/16 02:33 PM
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http://imgur.com/WloB86G
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:46 PM
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Dishonesty or straight up lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:17 PM
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if I ever improve my life I'm leaving the red pill and turning blue again So you as a red, you're masculine, stop catering to women's needs, putting them on a pedestal, hold frame, pass shit tests etc. You find a girl who likes your red self a lot, settle down, turn blue. Stop going to the gym, stop doing your own thing and start treating her like a princess. How many years do you think your sex life is going to last after that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:41 AM
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The Joys of Marriage. To get a more realistic view of married life is like take the time and read through 200 posts on /r/deadbedrooms and /r/divorce each.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:31 AM
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I think the saddest part [...] the Bluepill mocks them for this. http://imgur.com/TyltsGM If someone has internalized the red pill principles and gets sad because there are people in one corner of the internet -- that he has absolutely has no obligation to visit -- make fun of him or his approach to being more successful than something is wrong. How fragile is this guy's ego? If a group of strangers on the internet can make him insecure, how is he going to approach girls? Does he pee himself whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:16 AM
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She is on anti-depressants (prescribed after we were married), though her attitude and self image have improved greatly, in the last few years. You know that these can strongly affect her libido, right? You should look up the specific type she's using.
/r/askMRP18/02/16 07:43 AM
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I'm here to have my views challenged before I lose myself in groupthink. Also to observe the hamster operating at a large scale. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:23 AM
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Communicate! Didn't work? Communicate more!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:18 AM
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Yeah kids blah blah, who cares? Our biological firmware makes us extremely devoted to our children. If that wasn't the case, it would be really hard to tolerate screaming little monsters who use up all your money and time, don't let you sleep (or fuck) for years, shit / piss / puke on everything and require almost constant supervision just to stay alive. :) Look at the sacrifices people throughout history and cultures do for their children: they give up their careers, they work insane shitty job…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 05:06 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 04:53 PM
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"I also wonder if our sex life has dwindled in part because I’ve let myself go, and ditched the healthy diet and rigorous workout regime I devoted my time to before we had children. Unlike a lot of clueless men bullshitted by their wives, he seems to know what's up. He's just a lazy ass. It's his fault. The good folks at /r/marriedredpill would bitch slap him back to being a man. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 04:25 PM
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Yep, that's why it's called /r/deadbedrooms and not Blowjob City. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 03:54 PM
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They are in this new misogynistic society. There's starting to be a major backlash on women who think for themselves. You sound a bit like someone who lives in a parallel timeline where Biff Tannen and his legion of TRP troopers took over Hill Valley.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 02:00 PM
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You described 15 years of my relationship almost perfectly. I really did need to learn, through observation in relationships, how important sex is to men. I'm pretty sure that my wife still haven't fully internalized this. She might understand it on an intellectual level, but it's still a very alien concept to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 09:51 AM
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You'd be surprised how long deadbedroom couples can fake normalcy. Deadbedroom cliche #13: "Our relationship is great except for the sex." Most couples are not arguing, throwing plates, creating drama. They are friendly roommates and parenting teams living a family life while slowly dying inside. Some can and do hack it for decades. I don't know if you have kids, but when you're a parent and you're responsible for these innocent little humans, gambling with their future just because your sex lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 09:37 PM
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It has a lot to do with shame. They are very often reluctant to seek medical / professional help. Men are supposed to be sex machines, anything that puts a question mark on their masculinity at this level can shake their whole identity. One of the most brutal shaming tactic is questioning if a man's penis is functional (or big enough).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 09:11 PM
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Think something along these lines: https://youtu.be/M8kE58nsW2I Or silent starfish with yawning. If she's a real pro, she'll be on Facebook while you're doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 08:46 PM
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Porn addiction, low testosterone, erectile disfunction, premature ejaculation are common ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 07:45 PM
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Duty sex is the worst. Once your wife starts yawning / scratching while you fuck her you know you've arrived in married hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 07:40 PM
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Often there are kids in the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 07:34 PM
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Defend Explain Excuse Rationalize
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 06:16 PM
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take her in your arms, make deep eye contact, kiss her affectionately She explicitly told me not to touch and kiss her in these situations. When I do, she either goes completely limp or turns away (depending on her current indignation level). I ignored this request for a couple of months actually but it didn't help as far as I can tell. That's why I started laughing / joking / disengaging more. She keeps asking me to talk to her. I personally think discussion is useless, because she's so overwhe…
/r/askMRP16/02/16 05:50 PM
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Alpha male = leaders of men. It's not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 04:09 PM
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Does he get easily laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 03:59 PM
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Is he alpha or not? He may or may not be alpha. (Are women attracted to him?) The set of traits that females are attracted to have been encoded into human DNA in prehistoric times. A lot of alphas end up in prison in the 21st century. A lot of alphas are the scum of the earth (but still get laid like tile).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 03:58 PM
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Whole industries are built on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 03:28 PM
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You might find these useful: Mateguarding: don't do it Why Men Shouldn’t Mate Guard
/r/askMRP16/02/16 03:06 PM
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Guys, we had training on this. We don't talk about the volcano.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:59 PM
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I mentioned the dishwasher example elsewhere. the result shouldn't be a pouting wife for a whole day, should it? Maybe at first, but eventually the response should be a bit more positive. It's only been a couple of months and it's uneven. (Also dependent on where she is in the cycle, I think.) At first, shit tests almost disappeared and she might have been scared of me, actually, now they come back. Usually the post-shit-test fallout is worse than the shit test itself. Her pouting periods did sh…
/r/askMRP16/02/16 12:40 PM
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Male traits that most women find sexually desirable. (I.e. not necessarily as a long term provider but someone who makes their panties wet.) You can look at men most women find sexually desirable and generalize from there. None of these are all or nothing, but more women will find them attractive than not. confident, assertive successful / popular with (other) women physically fit tall and/or physically dominant in other ways socially dominant (leading rather than following or NGAF) aggressive a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 12:33 PM
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The fact that you're reacting to her feelings this way is showing her that they affect you. Thanks, good points. The challenge for me is to deal with the legitimate part (filling the dishwasher the right way) without reinforcing the histrionics she wraps her point in.
/r/askMRP16/02/16 11:25 AM
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Men have started to figure this out a while back. I think it's a huge contributor to the plummeting marriage rates in the developed world. This was my favorite YouTube comment I saw this month: Marriage is all about HER. It always has been, and it always will be. A guy who gets married is signing up for a soul-sucking, thankless, miserable job. It's like cancer, but you don't die. You don't need TRP to get this information out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 11:11 AM
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I would make it a mandatory to read 200 posts on /r/divorce and /r/deadbedrooms each before marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 11:06 AM
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When she says"You don't respect my feelings". Are you sure you are not confusing her woman speak as opinions, thoughts or ideas? Please provide a context. Is the shit test about you or something you do or do not do? Every shit test that I've personally seen has a kernel of a valid complaint in it. At least plenty enough for plausible deniability. Example: how to fill the dishwasher. These are just turned into a shit test which is pretty obvious to me because they are blown way out of proportion,…
/r/askMRP16/02/16 10:00 AM
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I consider myself an expert on this (FML). Qualifications: years of dead bedroom in the past, read all the bluepill books about it, avid /r/deadbedrooms reader. Sometimes it's neutral / health related: hormone levels drop on either side other health / mental issues (PE, ED etc.) past trauma strictly religious upbringing fucking people up However the following are much more common: Typical mistakes from the husband: gets fat assumes he locked her down for sex (believes he's signed up for Marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 09:38 AM
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I believe TRP works on certain women, enough women to sleep around a fair amount, but not really more than shallow interaction. How do you explain the married red pill success stories?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:50 PM
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Look, you can do lots of things, but there are consequences for all of them. You certainly can laugh at her shit tests, but you might earn reprieve by simply not laughing at them. Laughing isn't always the right response (although sometimes it is fitting). Maybe you are exaggerating this point, I don't know. The way I mostly react to shit test is either one of: ignore laugh amused mastery leave the room She takes offense at most of them, although it might be that grinning at her might be the wor…
/r/askMRP15/02/16 04:12 PM
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Today is 4 days until shark week. PMS.
/r/askMRP15/02/16 12:05 PM
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they fundamentally lack empathy towards you as a human being It's a recurring deadbedroom trope that the husband is in love with the woman, tried to do everything for her, tries to explain how much he's suffering and the wife doesn't care. It might not be universally true of course, but many of these people need a big smack on the head to shake them out of their hopelessly idealistic thinking (common to many, many men) where they feel hurt and wronged and see the situation as unfair / unjust. "W…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 09:12 AM
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How could an MRP man ever bring himself to get married? I think most MRP men find the red pill after they got married, ended up in a dead bedroom and started looking for solutions. There might be guys who decide to get married after becoming RP aware, but I've yet to see posts about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 09:04 AM
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My oldest (22) says she's never having kids, and she's with a man that agrees. They have decent jobs and WILL make more as they advance, which means they'll have plenty of disposable income to live how they please. Having children would eat all of that income, as well as any time to enjoy it. It's been foretold.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 05:55 PM
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I can't help but feel that when talking about holding frame it prevents a nuanced view of things. Very few things are black and white, and when speaking about holding frame it seems to show reluctance to grow as a person and see another's view point. I think TRP readers like yourself would greatly benefit from 'holding frame' example videos. Many get the wrong idea about what it means. I came across something where the poster said something along the lines of "When you think you can't live witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 01:41 PM
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Not just religious families.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 08:00 PM
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Top rated comment on the video: A guy who gets married is signing up for a soul-sucking, thankless, miserable job. It's like cancer, but you don't die.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/02/16 04:39 PM
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If women are superior are covert communication and other manipulative traits, why don't they compose the majority of our politicians? Why don't they dominate sales? Among other things: for the top spots you need also need a high level of aggression and a readiness to deprioritize family lives (travel + insane hours). For a lot of women these don't come easy. you're really just humble-bragging like "I'm too rational to care what other people think!" You're probably picturing some kind of Sherlock…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 04:30 PM
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Playing the victim and blame shifting on a high level are amazingly useful qualities. It was essential for women in prehistoric days to function in a world where the other gender easily dominated them physically. Covert communication is much more than that. Think of seducers, salesmen, very, very good diplomats, negotiators etc. In our world today, when physical strength stopped being important, the most skilled politicians (not just women) use these skills to rise to the highest echelons of pow…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 02:42 PM
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Sure a few examples: I can be overly aggressive, competitive and risk taking. I almost always value truth and logic over hurt feelings. Covert communication is not my factory setting and had to train myself in it. I'm still not a natural. I can be impatient. I'm inclined towards prioritizing work over family. I'm prone not to GAF about what my environment thinks of my actions / decisions. Etc. FYI there is a Wikipedia article related to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_psyc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 07:59 AM
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I like her a lot, she's smart and funny, but I do not love her unconditionally. Not any more. My oneitis is gone. Say you had a person who you really really like and really click with on every level. On the second date she tells you: come on, marry me, we'll have wonderful kids together, but I'll only have duty sex with you once a month. I don't know what you'd do, but I personally would laugh in her face and there would be no third date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 07:52 AM
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Easy example: I check out the boobs of women who walk by without thinking. 100% autopilot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 06:54 AM
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Yes, maybe I just got lucky and red pill happened to be working on my woman who I guarantee you wouldn't recognize as the target of the TRP demographic. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 06:52 AM
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If you were needy, why was she with you? It's been decades. It started out just fine but after the first kid / moving in together it all went to hell (dead bedroom cliche). I had major oneitis for her and when she cut off sex I tried to bluepill harder: be even more selfless, take her on dates, communicate more yadayada. The fact that she could take me for granted now resulted in a dead bedroom which in turn turned me into a needy beta bitch of hers. If I could go back I would just laugh in her …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 06:43 AM
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I don't know that this proves much. Let's be honest, there probably is no sequence of words that I could type into this comment box that would "prove" AWALT to you. :) But that's ok. Neither my daughter, nor my wife are drama queens. They are decent people, actually. But just like me, they can't ignore their biological firmware.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 09:04 PM
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What kind of guy were you before you found TRP? Were you a stereotypical nice guy? Were you needy? I tried to be the best husband with the knowledge that my beta conditioning gave me: I treated her how I myself would like to be treated. I put her needs before mine inside and outside the bedroom. I let her shame me for my sexual needs. I tried to solve thing by communication and took most of what she said at face value. I talked about my feelz. Heck, I wrote letters about my feelz. (Yeah, it's pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 08:59 PM
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I think I get what you're saying, but I'm very convinced that what the behaviors and patterns the red pill attributes to women under the AWALT umbrella are much more widely observable than the Tinder / sorority / party girl demographic that TRP seems to focus on. E.g. the article How women argue almost perfectly describes the way my mom, my wife, my daughter, my female friends and coworkers behave when they get into a more heated discussion. For me, this is the meaning of AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 07:12 PM
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That's the point though, there are tons and tons of emotionally mature women who don't do blame shifting, emotional impulsiveness etc. It's because with TRP tactics, you will usually get the women that are more prone to this, since TRP tactics are geared towards this kind of women. I'm only one data point of course, but... My daughter does victim mentality, blame shifting and emotional impulsiveness. Heck, she even does shit testing in her own cute pre-teen way. She can also cry on demand and ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:48 PM
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"I don't like muscle." "You're already too big."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 04:55 PM
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I have the feeling that you kind of watered it down. ;) E.g. when my wife shit tests now I mostly handle it the same way when my pre-teen daughter throws a tantrum. I ignore her or make a joke and leave. Maybe, you're right and this 'mainstream' advice is readily available somewhere and I was just unlucky. I didn't find it although I looked for many years. And I did read a lot of bluepill relationship fixing books. If you have it somewhere in one nice package I'm sure linking to it would help th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 04:53 PM
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I wasn't clear. I meant lifting. Her mouth says no, I shouldn't do it, but her eyes and hands say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 04:24 PM
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I'm married, my customer base right now is one person. ;) The red pill is a model. For it to be useful, it doesn't have to be perfect, but it needs to bring better predictions for my wife's behavior than my old blue pill thinking did. So far it's working. On a sample size of N=1: taking her off the pedestal, being less invested in her: boom, works getting fit is good (despite what she says, but I'm watching what she does, not what she says) avoiding coming off as needy / desperate: doubleplusgoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 04:17 PM
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OP, read the top 100 posts on /r/deadbedrooms The lack of sex / intimacy kills people from inside. And not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 03:20 PM
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It's not just red pillers who have recognized this. Esther Perel also talks about the difference and contradiction between "love" and "desire".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 10:12 AM
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This PPD debate won't change OP's views but if she spent a couple of months on /r/deadbedrooms, it might. If there is an initial sexual attraction for the beta male, it quickly disappears after she tied him down and can take him for granted. Sometimes it's obvious during the engagement, sometimes on the sexless honeymoon, sometimes the trickle sex only dries up completely after the first or second kid. It's all pretty textbook deadbedroom stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 09:15 AM
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The point of the story is that if the husband knows that women (even his own, perfect wife) will have a hard time staying loyal to a loser for long, he doesn't let himself turn into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:47 PM
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"it'd be alpha if you do the chores I'd ask you to" what_is_this_i_don't_even.gif
/r/MarriedRedPill10/02/16 04:30 PM
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you already think all women are shit I'd say that's a fairly extreme anger phase interpretation. There probably are red pillers who actually think that way (most likely fresh, young and angry), but I'd say that's an extreme. There's a bunch of us who are married and I'd say for most of us AWALT doesn't mean that women are subhuman filth. It's a reminder that our wives or LTR partners are not perfect angels / princesses, and they might actually struggle to keep up with the ideals that society pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 04:12 PM
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AWALT is a number of things. It's a counter-meme for NAWALT, one of the most common arguments invoked by the mainstream/BP for any attempt to generalize observations about male-female differences. It's a counter-meme against the "women are wonderful" effect. It's a reminder that men and women are different in ways that do matter. (Mainstream / BP culture tries to minimize this effect which when internalized leads to a lot of frustration in relationships.) It's a reminder that if a man believes h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 12:25 PM
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Make me very rich OR Get a drop in my testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 02:07 PM
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Most women will also never experience what it's like living with 10x the average female testosterone level. When they actually try it, it's not described as a pleasant experience. And then try not getting fucked on top of that. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:47 PM
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Men typically look for the kind of love that their mother gave them growing up. As unconditional as it can get. Many will fall to oneitis, loving a woman like this. Pretty much unconditionally. They expect to be loved back like this. It doesn't occur to most men that it will never happen again. That motherly kind of love is never coming back. I think the company metaphor mentioned by /u/fromthepit is a good one. Another is to tell men that when they become needy / desperate or their woman loses …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 10:24 AM
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