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Question For Womenyouarockandnothing/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 03:09 PM
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CMVyouarockandnothing/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:05 PM
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CMVyouarockandnothing/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:52 PM
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youarockandnothing/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:19 AM
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CMVyouarockandnothing/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 05:34 PM
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youarockandnothing/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 06:13 PM
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Question For Womenyouarockandnothing/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:50 PM
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Discussionyouarockandnothing/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:45 PM
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Generalyouarockandnothing/r/MensRights21/05/26 04:04 PM
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Discussionyouarockandnothing/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 03:47 PM
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youarockandnothing/r/askTRP14/05/21 05:45 PM
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Respectfully, the claims don't matter. All the stuff about fertility in the zeitgeist right now is coming from governments and religious institutes that are seriously considering getting birth control banned across the board because birth rates have fallen below replacement level. They don't actually care about men, or women, or the cost of living, etc, because they want to solve this issue without improving society. We would sooner see condoms banned than any real positive instituional change r…
/r/MensRights11/07/26 05:42 PM
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Too many stories in my community of men taking their own lives after going through divorce.
/r/MensRights24/05/26 12:09 AM
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Good point. I don't, I was just raised religious and didn't leave until I was well into adulthood, so for most of my life I was made to feel that becoming a father was an expected part of adulthood.
/r/MensRights21/05/26 04:45 PM
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Adult women hook up with minors for the same reasons adult men hook up with minors: perversion and manipulation. Has nothing to do with biology or "giving them what they want". The double standard is absurd.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 08:09 PM
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I do think the solution to the male loneliness epidemic is not getting every lonely man a woman (which is impossible and short-sighted), but instead to get him true friends My life is proof that not everyone over 30 is without a true friend group. A relationship is not going to last as long as you hope it will in most cases. The divorce rate is not high for no reason
/r/MensRights28/10/25 03:36 PM
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I agree 100 percent.
/r/MensRights06/03/25 10:17 PM
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I agree with you. No one should fall for the propaganda that a man who's single after XYZ age is somehow defective. It's just the male equivalent of the cat lady nonsense.
/r/MensRights18/02/25 08:57 PM
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It's sad how many women I know went from being single to being a single mom, like her and the dad were never even a couple
/r/MensRights11/09/24 10:49 PM
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I understand that boys need more male role models in their lives, but for a man, I don't think working at a school is the best idea. Maybe it's just where I live but my first job out of college was a classroom para at a high school and there's weird shit going on when you consider both the female staff chomping at the bit to accuse a male staff of anything and the fact that this place did unfortunately seem to have a legitimate history of staff getting caught for immoral conduct with the student…
/r/MensRights06/07/24 06:50 PM
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No, what's happening is a third option, where just less people date overall because women are getting fed up with dating apps but don't really know where/how to be approached by quality men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:12 PM
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Everyone claims to be done with dating apps and yet single women (and to a lesser extent, single men) go to public social events, conventions, speed dating events, church singles mixers etc less than ever before. Singles are abandoning the public social space.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:52 PM
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Icks can develop over time with a sexy, confident man too though. The woman just might not notice them at first. Icks can arise with anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:21 PM
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I think it's a form of weakness. Same as how I tend to push people away because I don't like to feel misunderstood, which is a weakness in my mental state during interactions with strangers. Everyone has weaknesses to work on. Being alone, unless you do something crazy like self harm or get addicted to drugs because of it, is probably safer than being with an abusive partner though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:14 PM
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Very common behavior in schools. The girls don't know how to take rejection so they assume uninterested guys are gay.
/r/MensRights08/02/24 05:08 PM
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This is true. Generally speaking men nowadays are often in their feelings and lacking confidence and other masculine traits. Of course, if you grew up with strong male role models and have all the positive masculine traits since you were 13 years old this advice isn't for you, but we need to stop pretending a majority of boys are growing up in touch with their masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:23 AM
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"Trad wife" lifestyle, for non-super-religious women at least, is idolized mostly by single moms. They watch the content because they wish they had it. There are some childless millennial women in their 30's and 40's who've also started fantasizing about that lifestyle, but I don't think there are that many. Lonely single people fantasize about all kinds of things. Post-pandemic I see more Gen Z women drifting toward the "unemployed adult child who lives with parent(s) forever" goal if they don'…
/r/MensRights26/01/24 06:52 PM
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Having come to know a lot more people as I approach my 30's, I would still rather be the guy who's seen as disposable by women than be the woman who gave 5+ dedicated/faithful years and children to an ugly guy and then got cheated on / treated as disposable in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:52 PM
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I think whoever asked the other person out should pay the cost of the date. However, you should try to vet them for at least some genuine interest in you beforehand. Buying food/drinks for a date who finds your behavior/personality fundamentally unsexy is lame and a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 11:58 PM
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Being single is easier in the end, unless you're lucky enough to end up with someone who can stay loving, empathetic towards and attracted to you after 3 years, and inspire the same feelings in you after 3 years. If you like the odds and feel unable to live your best life as a single person, you should aspire to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:48 AM
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I believe this. My cousin's parents only got together because he kept asking her out after she turned him down multiple times over the course of weeks (this was in the 80's) and then she gave him a chance off of nothing, they became happily married and are still together and in love to this day. The man's behavior towards her at the time would totally be considered creepy, and yet she fell for him. He is a harmless guy as well, not intimidating at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 05:04 PM
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Is that an observation you and your friends have made? That men don't approach women in the wild anymore? Are there times when you wish a specific man would approach but he doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:25 PM
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The only change I've noticed in recent years re: looksmatching is that more guys who are below-average looking are settling down with women who have uglier faces than them instead of the woman being the cuter one. Most likely because of dating app culture (below-average looking men are getting most of their attention from women with faces that would be considered not very attractive). But I don't think there's been a seismic shift or any significant change.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 10:12 PM
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school shootings are caused by unchecked mental illness. teens don't/can't use most dating apps. and it's not any harder nowadays for teen boys on the spectrum to date compared to 20 years ago, they always struggled. it's not like Snapchat is the reason the socially fluent boys who play sports get the most female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:07 PM
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My one serious high school unrequited crush, she just seems to be a normal person, has a boyfriend now I believe, I heard she was always single until a few years ago though. She was never much of a relationship type so it makes sense. I dodged a bullet only in the sense that I had no spine back then so the relationship probably would've been a bad one for both of us. But I have zero idea how she acts in a relationship, i don't even know if she has any exes, current guy may be her first serious p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:08 PM
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A lot of these are genuine, people don't want to believe it because you obviously look past these things when you're in love with someone, and because it makes women look bad. Obviously not all women are going to get the ick when a guy does a certain thing. But icks are something you have to be careful about as a man unless you want your dating pool to be microscopic. Different women have different icks, but there's some convergence. I don't know why people are so against attempts to understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:22 PM
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I'm not sure a lot of women don't also look down on guys who just get intoxicated, chill and do petty crimes 24/7. Nonetheless the issue is that only having consumptive hobbies (playing video games, watching content, listening to music, etc) is seen as unattractive as men have been known throughout history for their ability to create things, fix things and work on themselves. Video games are often a very time consuming consumptive hobby which is why some women find a guy who plays them unattract…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 08:13 PM
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Yes but do women really want even more autistic men hitting them up?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:23 PM
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The problem is that once you're over 25 the % of women your age going to public social events who are single is very small. Unless you lived in a major city pre pandemic, are very involved in a large religious community or are willing to hit on customers while you work at a popular location for food/clothes/etc, organically meeting single women in the 25-35 range is very challenging. I don't even remember the last time I met a woman in that age range who's single organically outside of a coworke…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:19 AM
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wish women understood: how hard it actually is to deal with the fact that a lot of women can only feel responsive desire when first meeting a guy, thus requiring the man to turn things flirty off of her platonic energy or else the woman won't ever see him as a prospect. It's rough because sometimes you have to go off zero signs and take a leap of faith as a man. This makes women more likely to be approached by guys who just wanna fuck because it's mostly those guys willing to initiate flirting b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:14 AM
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I work at a middle school and the difference in conflict strategies between the two sexes is shocking. Boys just want to get a good punch in on the other boy's face. Embarrass him and let him know things are serious. Girls literally want the other girl to die. It's actually something the counselors are dealing with a lot lately -- homicidal ideation. Girls can hate other girls so deeply, it's scary. I would say they are the more violent sex in their minds. They're just usually afraid or incapabl…
/r/MensRights10/05/23 04:04 PM
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I would have to disagree that cold approach is a strong strategy for 2020+, even now. There may be the occasional TikTok going around of a woman complaining that men don't approach anymore, but by and large single women aren't going into public spaces looking to give a random man a chance just because he talked to her. Maybe this will change in the next few years, and maybe it's just because I live in a place where most people are homebodies, but finding single women is not as easy IRL as PUAs w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:51 PM
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I can't afford it either. At all. I live in a medium sized town with these acquaintances. I'm saying these acquaintances are convinced they're just treading water with their lives until they can move to a big city with 4x the cost of living. Due to unhealthy cultural programming. For context we're in our mid to late 20's, American, childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:48 PM
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You will always get bored of being alive as long as you think you're owed being able to do certain things amongst specific company whenever you desire. The universe owes us nothing, and yet we are blessed with a lot of good things, just not always the things we want. We have a lot to unlearn from what's sold to us our whole lives. People who don't tend to die with a chip on their shoulder. Shit, I have acquaintances who are convinced they already ruined their lives permanently by never having mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:13 AM
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[redundant comment]
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:33 PM
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They lower women's IRL self esteem (and the few men who use them too) because we don't have filters in real life. This is especially prevalent in women who weren't blessed with naturally pretty faces. So it probably won't be a net positive effect, unless you think too many women have a big ego I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:34 PM
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Lizzy Caplan I think the most attractive women on the planet are considered "plain looking" by the crazy mainstream that's obsessed with swimsuit models and big booty bitches, yet clearly they're still objectively very good looking, I wouldn't call them average.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:15 PM
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I don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility that men in general will start to work on their "behavioral attractiveness" & social game in the next few years since that's so obviously where the vacuum is right now in the dating market. (getting women thru cold & warm approaches) People are giving up on OLD in large numbers. Maybe men are largely too autistic to adapt away from it, but I wouldn't bet my life savings on the % of anti-social men to keep rising forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:55 PM
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Not enough young adult men joining the workforce. There are a lot of NEETs nowadays because it's too obvious to everyone how the system isn't rewarding most people for working.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:50 PM
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The man should be more anxious? Surely that's just your misguided way of saying the man should be runner of the show and be invested enough to take care of any problems that arise? As in, he cares, and he'll get you out of trouble. I would think women want their man to be focused and on top of his plan at the airport, not anxious. What good is a man you have to mommy out of a stressed headspace at the airport?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 05:12 AM
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I wouldn't mind dating a loner girl, but I have learned in the past that sometimes loners have really extreme trust issues to the point where they self sabotage their relationships, so in the future I would like to suss out girls like that before we got too serious. Cause as we all learn the hard way, it doesn't matter how trustworthy you are, sometimes people will just self sabotage and there's nothing you can do about it... Even if you're not "too nice" to them or whatever. People will be emot…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:09 AM
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It's hard to believe because no one wants to feel like women would make choices that hurt their quality of life. It's generally assumed that men are willing to make choices that harm their quality of life and women aren't. "Women are wonderful" effect maybe? Also reminds me of the "women don't date down" axiom -- for whatever reason it's a standard in society to think that a woman could never make a choice that didn't improve her life or at least keep it the same. Even though we're all human and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 07:03 AM
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I agree. Also the damage to the economy and morale is turning more and more young adults into NEETs which is also concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:25 PM
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I think this is true for probably something like 75 percent of women nowadays. The game for women is trying to secure commitment from a guy they want to be fucked by first and foremost, it's only a minority of women who are rejecting the advances of "fuckboys"/players for trying to go sex-first.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:33 PM
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sex is only part, but the main issue is that most boys who are raised to be kindhearted are also raised to be behaviorally unsexy, which is the biggest reason women go for guys who aren't good-husband material in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 03:43 AM
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What? It's few men if you're talking about actual LTRs. Getting into an LTR takes a lot of effort and most men aren't going to go through that for a woman who doesn't make their dick hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:54 PM
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As a young adult I was only friends with guys who were softer romantic types like me -- seeing every single one of them get their hearts broken by their long-term GFs of several years - sometimes cheated on, sometimes not - was a wake up call
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:51 PM
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It's not true in a literal sense: the real meaning is "men don't approach or go out of their way to talk to unattractive women" which is true. But it's only natural that the sex expected to do all the approaching would focus on approaching those he finds attractive. The whole "men pretend ugly women are invisible" is BS, why don't women give more attention to the ugliest guy in a group conversation when a hot guy is there? Both sexes focus their flirtations on people who they find cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:22 AM
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This 100%. People don't realize how much IRL socialization for post-college single adults has decreased compared to 50 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:37 PM
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It's because no one wants to believe that their decisions and motivations are similar to those of hundreds of thousands of other people. Once you know enough little details about someone, you can guess what they're looking for re: sex and dating fairly easily, but people hate that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:18 PM
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Being redpill aware can save a "blue pilled" man's marriage, so I think it is useful, and for more than just casual sex. For example if you're not redpill aware you wouldn't know that if you marry a headstrong woman, going along with everything she wants even when you really don't want to will actually make her lose attraction to you over time. I think people want to believe all men make it to adulthood either overcoming or never having been conflict avoidant or people-pleasing and thus there is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:22 AM
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it's sort of pointless when most in-person community events are dominated by couples and families nowadays, single women aren't going out of their way to attend these like they were 50 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:35 PM
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destigmatize fun public social events for adults that are basically singles mixers, like things were 60 years ago "nights where a bar has karaoke" doesn't count, most social events for adults aren't even set up for single people to meet each other easily nowadays. just dates and groups of friends, which is rarely productive for meeting new potential love interests
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:43 PM
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this. where I live all the (few) social events are dominated by couples
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:41 PM
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I don't think it only died because of media. It also died because the economy & society stopped rewarding men for trying hard (see: divorces, late stage capitalism), so now the fact that trying to make something more of your life often still results in failure a lot of the time is reflected to boys in media. Rest assured if things get even worse economically to the point that women start to lose their social safety nets we will see more media encouraging boys to have a hero's journey. Sadly I do…
/r/MensRights20/09/22 09:42 PM
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Considering how many people I know who pretty much have their partner as their only close friend, I would guess that is seen as the better deal to the average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:05 PM
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My point is that the relationship as a whole (which includes the non-sexy parts like how they interact as a couple, life planning, domestic day-to-day, etc) doesn't have to be man-as-leader / Mdom, and in fact often the woman is the more responsible adult & the captain of the relationship, so to speak, BUT most women still want a man who is at least capable of making her feel submissive in response to his actions/behavior/attitude sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:30 AM
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I knew this was going to happen as soon as it became commonplace for dating apps to be flooded with bots and sextortion due to the fact that <20% of men are getting any attention from real women on apps. I imagine it's easy to make a fake Snapchat and scam teen boys who are getting curved by girls IRL... Cruel world
/r/MensRights06/08/22 06:23 AM
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Women like that can usually afford to be picky
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:01 AM
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Ask yourself why you think all men with romantic interest in women are confident and willing to make a move. The reality is much more complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:56 AM
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Move somewhere where the women my age aren't all in relationships 🥲 being late 20's in a small town is hard
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:19 PM
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Most of these women you don't see at social events actually have boyfriends & just don't go out to "social events" much. 25 is an age when most people are in an LTR, even if they end up single again later, I hardly know anyone who was single at 25 even if they're not with that partner anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:24 AM
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"Swingers" (1996) is maybe the best ever optimistic breakup movie for straight men, although it's mostly about sex and dating not really being a man overall. Although it's also about male friendship now that I think about it. "I Love You, Man" is a funny movie about positive male friendship.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 08:32 AM
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Are you from a small town by chance? In big US cities single at 30 is currently very common. But in the small town I'm from it's the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:54 AM
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I like her videos. She's talked a lot about how the "boys enjoy being molested by women" idea is disgusting. People on the left hate her for being a "fake leftist" or "secret tradcon" and people on the alt-right hate her for "being a fake centrist to attract 4chan simps" but I think she's just a funny person who's always trying to make sense of WTF has been going on in Western politics for the last few years. And I think it shows integrity to make content that could easily get you cancelled by t…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 08:44 PM
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You're looking at it the wrong way. So courage and skill at protecting are both part of womens turn-ons. Strength is an indicator of that yeah, but a woman is gonna be exponentially more turned on by a guy saving her from getting hit by a car or something than a guy just lifting weights at the gym. One of modern society's mixed blessings: things are relatively very safe, which is good, it just also makes way less men develop that protective instinct and have genuine opportunities to show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 04:56 AM
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Men don't have to be subjugating someone in order to feel non-emasculated. One of the big reasons men can feel emasculated is when they don't have women in their life who acknowledge when they're right, needed or valuable. Most men are not actually told "you rock! people like you!" by society. Also men who grow up with cruel parents who constantly criticize them, they feel like they can't do anything right, and then he gets himself involved with women who are not the type to give non-10/10 men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:50 AM
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Is it really though? I work at a middle school and only like 5% or less are heavily overweight or obese, most are quite thin
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:45 PM
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It is already happening, I work at a middle school and this past semester I could count on one hand how many students told me they were afraid of catching Covid or spreading it to others, and yet 90% of the girls were still wearing masks 4 months after the mask mandate lifted despite poor air conditioning inside the school. Almost every student watches TikTok every day. They are extremely self conscious, even moreso than the teens of my own generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:41 PM
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There have been a lot of red-pill women popping up on TikTok who talk about dating and/or give red pilled advice to men, search the word "masculine" on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:55 AM
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Re: androgynous men Worth pointing out that when women fantasize about androgynous men they're usually imagining them as being quite dominant and behaviorally masculine still. "Sweetheart with a dom side". Which does not describe every IRL androgynous man. I think people mistake small crushes for romantic and sexual success. An androgynous guy will typically have a few random girls crush on him, but unless he's fairly confident and bold behaviorally, he won't get that much attention from women c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:32 AM
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Yes but as a post-college adult (let's say anyone 25 and older) it is really, really easy to end up with a core friend group that possesses no leads to potential love interests (either friends or your friends' friends) because the total amount of single people within that network is just too low.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:46 AM
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Because Beckys are more eager to please / put out for / be nice to a Chad than Stacys are, and outnumber them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:32 PM
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I disagree somewhat. For example, a lot of men were raised as boys to treat girls with too much care / put them on a pedestal if you like them, the type of boys who didn't chase girls around on the playground and were afraid of making girls upset or being criticized by them for being too forward with affections. This usually leads to being a man who pedestalizes women and is too nice, and no amount of "working on yourself" is going to make you stop being behaviorally unattractive to the vast maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:50 PM
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This 100%. I don't think people realize how much the atomized way of modern living goes against our nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:00 PM
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I agree. Most women are pretty skeptical of men's intentions (I would say red pilled or black pilled), until a truly desirable, hot & charming man comes their way. Then they become rather blue-pilled... and they suddenly don't understand men's behavior at all. I think it's "giving the benefit of the doubt" syndrome To be fair I think both sexes do this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:51 PM
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Its moreso that society keeps giving women something they don't actually want, by creating guys who have good hearts but in a simpy/weak way that is behaviorally unsexy. I think it's actually anti-feminist to raise boys to be like that since it pretty badly shrinks women's effective dating pool, but maybe it helps prevent subpar genes from getting passed on or something. So women gravitate towards the only guys who aren't simpy or weak, and they're just unfortunately not always the most loving p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 08:00 AM
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I dunno about TRP but a lot more Gen Z men are becoming black-pilled than Millennial men did. See TikTok and YouTube. Stories of "sweetheart men" being taken advantage of by women who weren't actually in love with them are pretty much stopping romantic teen boys dead in their tracks nowadays. I don't think this will necessarily lead to a larger share of men getting laid but it will contribute to there being less "beta providers" getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 10:18 PM
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Guy here, not sure I quite agree. My brain pretty much decides whether or not a woman is sexually attractive on first sight. And I most likely will still find her sexually attractive if I find out her personality is trash, I just won't do anything about it / flirt / try to sleep with her / etc. I'm not sure I've ever not found a woman sexually attractive at first but then became sexually attracted to her over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:51 PM
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Tom from 500 Days of Summer
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:54 AM
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he does at least grow a backbone in the third act tho, tells her he won't keep trying to be with her if she won't commit to him or something to that effect
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:46 AM
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Because the majority of women prefer to be submissive in the bedroom, regardless of sexuality. People aren't making that up
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:26 AM
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Not all of them but most. The story of the "too-nice boyfriend who his girlfriend took advantage of for a bit then dumped him for a guy who actually makes her wet" is spread like gospel at this point. Every young male knows this scenario now and is told to avoid being that guy. I think it's actually good for society in the long run bc it's not like boys raised to be too-nice/submissive are actually making women happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:22 PM
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Yes, I believe there are correlations. Some examples: Straight male INFP, INFJ, ISFP, ISFJ are likely to struggle a lot in dating because of predispositions for emotional sensitivity, low self-esteem and high inhibition. By contrast, their straight female equivalents have the same flaws but will usually do decently in dating (this is just because of differences in what each sex finds attractive), but the depth of their emotions still makes it hard for them to find the right person. They also hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 10:18 PM
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For me the biggest one is just not being able to actually become emotionally invested in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:42 PM
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I know the Madonna-Whore Complex is unnatural and created by culture, my point is that a lot of boys have it because they're taught growing up that "the only girls who really care about sex are slutty / sexually adventurous girls", which is false and a belief that disadvantages everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:20 AM
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Yes. One big example is TikTok. No other platform in history has been as efficient at helping break down the Madonna-Whore Complex by having trends that "expose" the fact that "good girls" are horny too go viral every day. In fact, the platform is so sexualized that almost every trend is flooded with jokes that equate to "I'm a girl and I'm horny". I think this is actually a good thing because the Madonna-Whore Complex is really harmful, as is any sort of messaging like "good girls don't care mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:13 PM
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Men who are actively desired by women are scarce. Not abundant. Thus they "gatekeep" relationships by being stingy with who they're willing to be monogamous with due to their large amount of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:39 PM
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Was always taught that women want an egalitarian dynamic in their relationships, found out through experience & conversation that most women's fantasy dynamic is NOT that but instead to be loved by a "Caring Dominant" type man who leads the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 11:14 PM
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Men have less social pressure to go to college and can see what's happened to the economy and the "American Dream", especially post-covid. Less women should be going to college in today's climate actually. It's not financially worth it for anyone in most cases. The sex ratio would be restored if less people bought into the college scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 01:22 PM
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It's because you can't ask people to analyze their subconscious responses. It's why threads that ask things like "should a guy ask consent before he kisses you?" or "do you like when a guy tells you what to do?" are always responded to with answers that don't reflect how women actually feel in the heat of the moment, and thus are bad advice for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:46 PM
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There is a dark undertone to the recent wave of women speaking out about this IMO. They can see that the world is economically falling apart and they want strong men to help them. I would say most of these women are just looking out for themselves and don't actually care about us.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 05:15 PM
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The concept of secular in-person community in the first world was already dying before the pandemic, the pandemic simply pummeled what was left into the ground. Hardly any secular people are fighting to preserve in-person community. So everyone is lonely and isolated. It doesn't help that a lot of people are still afraid to have community in person at month ~20 of the pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 03:45 PM
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Most women want sexually dominant men. A lot of men aren't really into being sexually dominant but they do it to please women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:48 AM
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An introverted man is self-mate-guarding, so as long as he's highly desirable, a lot of women will appreciate that. However I would guess that introverted women do better in dating than introverted men since men are expected to approach women. So extroverted men are preferred by most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 05:59 PM
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That doesn't go against my point, which is that the pool of men who've graduated college and are sexually desired by women is shrinking rapidly (simply because the pool of men graduating college at all is shrinking rapidly). Thus competition for these men's attention is increasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:51 AM
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How much has the bar been raised in reality though? I still hear a LOT of college aged women complain about getting their hearts broken by "fuckboys". In fact it seems to be happening more now than it was 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:25 PM
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We're already seeing that IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:04 PM
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I wouldn't mind. I know what I'm insecure about and if they know it too but still like me, as long as they truly respect me I don't give a shit. However, I've had many friends whose exes were constantly poking at their deepest insecurities, just to get what they want or humble them. Some men, some women. And I wouldn't put up with someone like that. Rather be single than deal with someone who becomes a bully when they're upset, because that's embarrassingly immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:40 AM
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It's mate guarding. A 28+ year old woman doesn't want her competition for a high-value man around her age to be women who are 18-25, but that's what happens because high-value men often choose (and are desired by) younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 03:06 PM
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I'm confused. You were arguing that women have all the power in the relationship market already. But in this comment you say they would if they would stop giving it up so easily. So they don't currently have it when it comes to the most sought-after men. And in fact, the social phenomenon of sexual competition pretty much guarantees that even if women acted as a collective, they wouldn't be able to gain any new leverage over securing the commitment of these men, because there are always women wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 08:13 PM
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This is blatantly false, attractive straight women's #1 complaint about the men they want the most is that those men usually don't want to commit to being monogamous with them. If they really had the power, those men would commit, and straight women would probably be a lot happier as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:19 PM
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I think for most people the brain wants a partner who is not TOO generic in some way. Being physically "unflawed" can make someone seem too generic. But I would imagine the majority of people aren't bothered by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 06:04 PM
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Most women just prefer to be submissive in the bedroom, it doesn't usually come from brainwashing or just doing it to be nice. It's a human nature thing, I believe it ties into the fantasy of being chosen and highly desired by someone who could easily have anyone they want. I would bet it's also simply "you feel more desired when someone is taking you than when it's your job to take that same person". But also, leading in the bedroom requires a woman to have gotten over more of society's purity …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:00 AM
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It's mostly conservative women who say it. But I've also heard a lot of liberal women make essentially the same complaints, just without the word "masculine".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:42 PM
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Women do handiwork all the time. But I've heard many women say they would prefer if a man would do the handiwork that is very physically difficult, such as moving a new refrigerator or dryer into the house, or installing a new sink.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:36 PM
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You are right, not sure why so many people are disagreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 10:41 PM
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Masculinity is crucial for infrastructure and societies keeping their people safe and secure. Also, most straight women cannot be truly sexually satisfied by a man who has severe lack of masculinity, no matter how progressive society becomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 10:36 PM
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It's just the fact that most ""nice people"" are overly inhibited and non-assertive, and due to differences in male and female sexuality men don't really care if a woman is like that but woman are viscerally turned off by men who are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 01:27 AM
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They're more receptive but the fact that women are mostly inexperienced with being the pursuer does create the phenomenon where wlw can end up not dating each other simply because neither knows how to properly pursue someone
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 11:51 PM
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Not just that. Pandemic. It will affect the economy and thus people's dating lives (and birth rates) a lot more in the end than it has so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:48 AM
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That "nice girls" are sexual beings too, and they can never truly like a guy who doesn't turn them on, just like the "bad girls". AKA the antidote to the Madonna/Whore Complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:49 AM
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This is the reality for most average-looking men. And the "get better photos" argument doesn't apply most of the time because amazing photos can't hide that a man is only a 6/10 on an app where 9s and 10s are plentiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:42 AM
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Women are afraid High Value Men will, despite their abundance of options, occasionally turn to the services of legal sex workers to get off, which makes it harder for women to get their commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:39 PM
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Based on the answers so far, I guess it's worth saying that I didn't post this as anti-woke bait: I used to spend a lot of time around people (old friends and acquaintances) who believe it's morally wrong to not do whatever you can to help the oppressed (I used to live in a Portland-like city, if that helps), and I imagine in communities like that (or if I posted this on a big Twitter account) more people would be choosing the first type of person. I wasn't expecting the second choice to be so s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:23 AM
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I'm aware we don't, I just made it two extremes for the purposes of the poll.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:11 AM
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Half right IMO. Everyone in here is right that in the real world, most men and women are not so hostile to each other. However, anyone can plainly see that the percentage of adults in a committed monogamous relationship at any given time has declined somewhat in the last decade. However, it's probably more from FOMO / Paradox of Choice caused by dating apps and social media than hating the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 08:14 AM
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Social skills matter significantly IRL and I think they're a crucial part of being a developed, attractive person. That said, it's foolish to pretend society isn't still moving away from people dating people they've met in real life (especially in liberal areas, and compounded by the pandemic), so dating apps become the main avenue and it does become more about looks than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:23 PM
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It generally comes down to women being shamed into being afraid to admit what actually turns them on, both by society going back thousands of years ("women are pure and it's gross if they actually like sex") - but also some pride that comes from ego or feminist beliefs. See: most women are submissive sexually, but most women would never admit that to a man. I also believe some of it is wanting to seem more proper / like a better person. Most women wouldn't admit that abusive hot guys can still m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 06:47 AM
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Base issue is that modern society grooms kind-hearted men to behave unattractively and have unattractive personalities. Thus the majority of men who women find viscerally attractive are harmful to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:06 AM
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Sense of humor is valued by a lot of men for LTRs but not really for hookups. But a lot of men subconsciously see being funny as a masculine trait (because historically it was) so it's actually kind of a turn off to them. That's where all the feminist memes about men not liking funny women (and sexist memes about women being unfunny) come from. See also: the struggle of even the good female comedians. I personally agree with the "modern" view that being funny makes a woman more attractive, thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:55 PM
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Women like sex for much more than the possibility of orgasm. Most women who talk down on sex are only focusing on the orgasm aspect and still become depressed if they stop having sex, even though becoming celibate won't make them orgasm any less. If women didn't benefit from sex on a psychological level there would not be any women seeking out casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 08:05 PM
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Men who share traits in common with Kpop boys but are actually available to date due to not being famous or living in another country. Soft pretty boys without strong masculine features. Men with many feminine traits and very few masculine ones. Basically the type of guy described in 1. I'm not saying woman who claim to prefer femboys end up dating the usual Chad, but they don't end up dating feminine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 05:39 PM
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But how many women actually date the "available equivalent" of Kpop boys? They usually end up dating guys who aren't particularly feminine at all. Femboys are not largely sought after in reality as much as they're admired and fantasized about. Being a straight femboy is a good way to be single for a really long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 03:03 PM
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Good point. Thanks man.
/r/askTRP14/05/21 06:06 PM
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She's never dated anyone, so yeah. Idk about her self esteem though, based on our conversations it seems average
/r/askTRP14/05/21 06:01 PM
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Good comment. Thanks man.
/r/askTRP14/05/21 05:57 PM
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My bad, I got later Gen Z mixed up with Gen Alpha cause I didn't know what the cutoff was. Not 6 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 08:43 PM
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I do think that Gen Z and Gen Alpha women are on average somewhat less into hardcore feminism and women-as-dominant, rather-be-single-forever type stuff than Millennial women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 07:59 PM
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My bad, I meant that in the future, will the majority of humans continue searching for romantic love as long as humans exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 07:54 PM
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My observation over the years is that it doesn't matter if your life is actually interesting (unless someone is specifically looking for a partner like that), what matters a lot more to people is that you have an interesting, passionate mind, and don't give off "NPC" vibes. So coming off as a unique, three-dimensional person of which there is no one who thinks exactly like you out in the world is important. It also matters a lot if the things you like to talk about are considered interesting to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 04:19 PM
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She's a conservative, and against misandry, if that helps contextualize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 08:01 PM
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She's a conservative and introverted if that helps contextualize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 07:53 PM
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I think there's a miscommunication about the age ranges described. Girls who are 18, 19 often want guys who are 23-25 because they're more mature. Most women quickly learn that guys aged 18-22 are both pump and dump city and very immature. Female sexuality desires confidence and emotional stability, having both traits together isn't super common in guys their own age until they reach 25 or so. So guys who are a bit older than them are usually more appealing. Also a lot of women have desire for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 07:59 PM
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