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Ideally, the goal would be to work together, but I think both sides are a bit too jaded by either to see the benefits of uniting causes. It really bums me out here how many people do not like women in this sub/movement. 9 out of 10 interactions I have on here are misogynists. You're one of very few interested in discussing, dissecting, and looking at opposing views with a critical lens instead of flat out insulting women. I think all perspectives have validity, and all experiences are different,…
/r/MensRights27/02/17 02:32 PM
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Women of color are less likely to graduate high school, more likely to have unplanned pregnancies, and less likely to attend/graduate higher education degrees. Women of color face the same problems all people of color face, except there are a shit ton of additional sexist stereotypes. Black women have to "tame their hair" and "adjust their attitude". Asian women are either "quiet and unseen" or sexualized as a "dragon lady". Hispanic women are seen as illegal immigrants. These are thing white wo…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 10:05 PM
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that's not simply picking and choosing simply the worst aspects, it's noting that a wide scope of women including a congresswoman and institutions backed by the government of Canada have regularly and by design used language and taken actions directly harmful to men because they are men. How is this not anecdotal evidence, though? This isn't the collective group of thought as a feminist, these are specific examples of what some hateful people have said. This isn't the norm, this is the deviant.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 09:56 PM
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The sources all take you to another website with nothing backing it up. No proof of stated statistics or links to studies conducted by reputable people, no names of people participating, no data or anything that makes me believe these are facts. Chose your bubble, and I'll choose mine. I'm not going to waste my time proving something to you that is clearly fake. Just because you don't experience daily sexism doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's like saying that men experience zero problems beca…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 09:53 PM
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I think I did hurt your feelings a little, and I am sorry about that. Otherwise you wouldn't be continuing to respond.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 09:36 PM
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Here, I googled it for you: fem·i·nism (ˈfeməˌnizəm) noun,the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes There is a wide variety of types of feminism, you're right. White feminists will ignore people of color/trans rights. Militant feminists are more violent. Intersectional feminism works to provide a voice and place of inclusion for everyone. What's so wrong with diversity? Do I agree with it all? No, and nor will I agree with everyone in one single movement. That's a …
/r/MensRights24/02/17 09:35 PM
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I love how a website proves that it's valid and correct. Where's the source beyond another website that looks like it was made by a 12-year-old in 2002? If you can find valid credible websites, I'll look into it; that have sources and peer-reviewed credibility. Everything I've explored from what you sent me is a rabbit hole of eastern European/Russian run websites to make people like you stay distracted from the truth. I'll quote him again, fake news.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 09:31 PM
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Yikes, that is a lot of hateful language I'm not saying it's perfect, nor do I agree with some of these quotes. To pick and choose the worst parts of a movement is a bit anecdotal, don't you think? Do you have about 25 hours so I can get you a summary of all the hateful things men have said about women?
/r/MensRights24/02/17 09:28 PM
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I'm not going to pander to this bias and propaganda website. I agree and know there are issues men face, but this is nonsense. If you can find peer reviewed articles I'd be happy to read some, but this is to quote our great American president "fake news".
/r/MensRights24/02/17 09:22 PM
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You're right I'm being a bit of a dingus here, but I'd argue you are as well. Dingus party later?
/r/MensRights24/02/17 09:20 PM
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Sure, you seen it all.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 09:16 PM
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Yes, I did get passive aggressive with the book, but before that I was being honest. I do hope you can find a little happiness today, zero sarcasm. I'm also happy that you've found what seem like some great supportive communities for you, and that is always a nice thing to find, again, zero sarcasm. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, I truly wish you well even if we cannot agree.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 09:14 PM
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I did not anticipate this response if I'm being honest. I thought it'd just be downvoted and ignored. Sure it wasn't the most intelligent comment. I'd argue I'm putting a little more effort to stay kind than my original response. I am getting at my wits end, though, because I'm finding a lack of empathy from this sub - which to your original point is my fault. This is not my "safe space", nor something I agree with, so I have very little patience here. I will say I encountered a few very kind pe…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 09:12 PM
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I completely agree with you, and intersectionality feminism would argue the exact same thing. Feminism, to me, is about inclusiveness. It's about acknowledging there are wrongs in the world that we can fix and change. It's encouraging men cry in public if they want, or encouraging boys to play dress up/with dolls. What infuriates me about this sub/movement is that very few acknowledge that intersectional feminists care about these issues too, and instead MRA's displace the blame to feminists. Ar…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 09:05 PM
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It's sad you can't even see when someone is trying to be nice to you, especially when you make it so difficult. Fear not! I am not going to let your googling of a "textbook project" deter me from my relentless cheerfulness. What is this "book" thing you speak of? You have much knowledge, sir, teach me your ways of cleverness and bitterness. My silly little female brain only knows how to tweet and watch netflix.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 09:04 PM
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You're not wrong. I came here, and quite often come here, to understand opposing views. Is that so wrong?
/r/MensRights24/02/17 08:58 PM
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Now that you've edited your post, I can respond. The original post said: I seen the same for many safe places sub, and obviously doesn't represent everyone there. Butttt you can't be complaining about it since they all have the same rights and idiots who ruin it for others. This is a place for men to air their grievances about the struggles they face because of feminism. I don't expect anyone here to be forgiving or nice about my opposing view. I enjoy debating, especially when I am challenged. …
/r/MensRights24/02/17 08:48 PM
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I'm really sorry you're filled with so much hatred. My intelligence will not be defined by the words you can google. It's a shame we can't have an actual conversation about this, and it's pretty evident that you lack empathy for any and all situations that are not your own. It's also clear to me that you have no idea what you are talking about in regards to this situation, and dumb on me for pandering to your troll behavior. I should've known when you misquoted Gloria, and your complete disregar…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 08:34 PM
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Did you seen it? I still don't really understand what you're saying, perhaps English isn't your first language.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 08:26 PM
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Fair enough, there are extremists on both sides. I'd argue feminism has more valid points, personally, but that's my opinion as a feminist. I completely acknowledge men face struggles and challenges that are unfair and sexist towards them; if a man wants to be a preschool teacher he's looked at like a pedophile. That's not right. I'd argue, though, that intersectional feminism tries to look at all perspectives through a lens of equality first mentality, if that makes sense.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 08:20 PM
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You'd think they were being oppressed like it was the 1950's. You're right, we've made a lot of progress, but there is still tons to be done, specifically for women of color. I agree progress has been made, but there's a lot more to do, including the struggle that many men face because of gender norms.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 08:18 PM
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Fair and valid point. I'm slow to learn that this sub believes that misandry and feminism are the same. I'd like to point out that it is not true for intersectional feminists, just like I'm sure not all MRA's are misogynists. Perhaps we've just encountered so much hatred on the opposing side we're quick to judge.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 08:02 PM
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Can you unpack that a bit for me? I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you implying that all feminists are misandrists? With that logic, can I call all MRA's misogynists?
/r/MensRights24/02/17 07:51 PM
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While I respect your use of big words, again you're just side stepping every single issue. You're really going to blame women's sexuality for the worlds problems? Have you been watching a lot of 30 rock lately? What brings anyone anywhere? Why do men build bridges? Why are there jets? I was hoping to have sex tonight. - Jack Donaghy True signs of intelligence are marked by when we can admit we are wrong, not when we can prove we are right. I know there are flaws in feminism; too often people (fe…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 07:48 PM
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Cool, and thanks for having a respectful discourse. It's nice to find people who, while I don't agree with them, can have an intelligent conversation. I really appreciate that. It's kind of rare to find here if I'm being honest. And the same might be said to a MRA who goes to a feminist sub. I really hope that people can continue conversations in a respectful manor, while acknowledging they disagree. I'm not sure why it's difficult to admit when you might not be completely right, or that there a…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 07:38 PM
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Fair enough, what I should have said that those self-identified feminists are actually misandrists. Feminism wants equality. Misandry hates men and wants the destruction of men. Especially considering that the women who advocated for the Duluth model were all self-avowing feminists and advocates the Duluth Model as part of feminist theory. As stated before, I'm pretty up to date with feminist theories. The fact that I haven't heard of this before is not shocking, I have much to learn in this lif…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 07:15 PM
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People can hurt people, absolutely that is an age/gender/sexual orientation/race etc. blind thing. No denying that. Historically, though, would you agree that men (white men particularly) have had a much easier go of it than most women/people of color? Feminism childishly says "nuh uh, it's all mens' fault, women r perfect" Nope, wrong again (in Rafiki voice)! I encourage you to read anything by Judith Butler, Caitlin Moran, or Roxanne Gay. Feminism argues that this is the way society has always…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 07:10 PM
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In my experience, MRA's are not actually about men's rights. They have encountered so much hatred from an ex-girlfriend or mother or some woman (or women) in their life that has pushed them to a place of such hate they want to say "I'M SAD AND OPPRESSED AND IT'S FEMINISMS FAULT!" Men face a ton of issues. I acknowledge that and intersectional feminism acknowledges that. MRA's confuse feminism with misandry, plain and simple. Heck, some feminists confuse feminism with misandry, so maybe it's not …
/r/MensRights24/02/17 06:23 PM
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Erin Pizzey has a point, but she is the only one to prove this statistic, no one else has done other research on the matter. Also, Erin is a -pause for dramatic effect- feminist. Gasp! A feminist who cares about men, and safety? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS. I'd love some articles, to be honest, about women protesting men's shelters. Youtube videos are helpful but I don't find them as credible as something with statistics and multiple sources. Thank you, though, for the insight this was helpful! I would…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 06:16 PM
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"Hating men is an honorable and viable political act" - Gloria Steinem, That's actually Robin Morgan, and you cut a vital part of the quote out for your point (well played). The quote is, "I feel that man-hating is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." She's talking about "the man", such as "the system" or the patriarchy, not actual men but it's still gross to say and the implications are there as well t…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 06:02 PM
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Yikes! In what way?
/r/MensRights24/02/17 05:45 PM
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Please, keep going. And you should write a book if you feel that passionately about it. In the 25-34 age group, 37.5% of women have a bachelor's degree or higher, while only 29.5% of men do. (Rates of college attainment for men and women in this age group are increasing roughly equally.) But for the over-65 crowd, only 20.3% of women have such degrees, compared to 30.6% of men. You understand that this was a direct attempt to increase women's access to college, right? This is proof that feminism…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 05:39 PM
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Feminism is about equality, trying to change gender norms so men can cry in public and women can be CEO's, or vice versa. Feminism wants to provide rights for men, to get full custody of their child, to solve the rising suicide rate among men, and to encourage men to not have to hide their emotions if they don't want to. Feminism wants to destroy the patriarchy that keeps us all in these dumb boxes where men have to provide and work, while women stay at home. Feminism wants to allow people to ch…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 05:23 PM
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I'd love to see some sources for feminist protests against men's shelters. I can't find anything credible, beyond this incredibly sad story of a man who committed suicide after unable to provide funding for a mens shelter. That article has some great points too, specifically pointing out that men are more likely to commit suicide, and men and women are almost equally at risk for domestic abuse. Feminists might protest a co-ed shelter, where all domestic abuse victims live in one area. I wouldn't…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 05:18 PM
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You're joking, right? This is a very anti-feminist sub. While I have had some decent conversations with people here, and I think if MRA movement could pull their own head out of their ass for a second, we could jointly achieve a lot together. Men's rights activists, while holding some valid points, completely ignore the struggle many women face just for being a woman.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 05:11 PM
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Too bad they support the duluth model (basically arrest the man no matter what at a domestic abuse call) and actively fight the opening of male victims shelters or deny the reality of domestic violence being equal. As an avid feminist, I had to look up the Duluth model. To me, this suggests it lacks merit within intersectionality feminism. After a bit of research, it's deeper than "basically arrest the man no matter what at a domestic abuse call"; it's more of an assumption that men are more lik…
/r/MensRights24/02/17 05:07 PM
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No fucking shit. Any feminist will agree with you. This sub is unreal.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 02:58 PM
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Indian women are roughly 90% of the labor workforce in fields and with manual labor, and yet a majority of women do not own any land. This law is not an equality move for either gender, but India is the fourth most dangerous place for women to live. If a woman dresses provocatively, she deserves to be raped in the eyes of Indian men/society; it's not western/feminist ideals of "slut shaming", it's an actual societal standard. There wasn't any form of protection against domestic violence until Pr…
/r/MensRights30/04/13 06:54 PM
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To be fair, women in India have very few options to owning land because of the land law enacted there. Women just gained the legal right to own land in 2005. This is a step sideways for equality, however, women have very little options to make money or gain independence in India. Marriage is not the lofty romantic idea there, it's often more planned with more traditional gender roles expected to be upheld. Divorce will only increase when women have total equality there, but their culture would s…
/r/MensRights30/04/13 02:58 PM
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What about words such as "bitch" or "whore"? These are gendered terms where men have no equivalent, so perhaps it's not relevant to the conversation. I understand what you're saying, but I disagree. I think the inability to laugh at the term "cunt" only gives more power to the people who use it as an offensive term. Fear of a name only increases fear of the thing itself. I respect your point of view, and I never thought using the term "dick was degrading, thanks for enlightening me on that.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 10:04 PM
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I would respectfully argue the opposite. "Cunt" is supposed to represent the vulva, which has been considered dirty through history. I feel like we're splitting hairs a little bit here, because lots of people use the term "cunt," specifically Australians, as an inoffensive almost endearing term. It's a big cultural thing, I think, but I understand and respect your point of view.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 06:50 PM
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I feel it's worth mentioning that there's still an instinctual desire to prove ourselves strong as a man. The easiest way to do that is to refuse help when it's offered. It's just one of the ways men and women are fundamentally different. I understand what you're saying, but I think that's more of a personality flaw than a gendered issue. If you refuse help when it's needed, you're only hurting yourself. I completely get what you mean. I think that sometimes we're so focused on our own goals we …
/r/MensRights16/04/13 09:50 PM
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lol
/r/MensRights06/04/13 04:00 PM
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If I have an obligation to support my children while they're young, so do my children have an obligation to support me while I am old. Obligation is the wrong word, try common decency. You're disproving this "obligation" theory by suggesting that people have the right to leave the country when they can't even give their kids money. I don't even have a contract with the children. This is exactly why that law exists, you think fathering a child isn't a contract? I hope someone is there for your ki…
/r/MensRights03/04/13 01:36 PM
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This is exactly my biggest issue of /r/mensrights. I've personally encountered more negativity than positivity regarding equality. Feminism, in my opinion, does not blame men for the inherent inequalities both genders face; feminism blames society and gender-based inequalities that both sexes tend to perpetuate. From what I've experienced here, most of the MRM blame feminists for their inequalities, as well as laws that favor women. Examples such as "women always get child support," "feminists c…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:44 PM
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You could write it from three points of view; the female gives her point of view (maybe she tries to push it off as self defense), the male gives his point of view (maybe he was drunk and unsure of what he wanted, but wasn't able to articulate "no" or was drugged), then give an actual non-bias account of what happened. Maybe have an unnamed narrator reencounter the whole situation after hearing both points of view. A kind of middle ground, if you will, exposing the truths that can come from an e…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:20 PM
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Both you and I know that you can't prove a negative. So you made up a story to prove a point? Point well proven. If you owe someone money with a binding legal contract, you have an obligation to pay that debt. If you refuse to pay that, it can be considered a felony. As a felon, your rights, despite what the UN might say, are denied. That my friend is the unfortunate truth. Judges and prosecutors will never let a case like this in front of a jury because it's almost a given that the defendant wi…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:58 AM
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What is your source for this man in jail for 14 years of withholding child support? Why doesn't he show his bank statements? Why doesn't he attempt to apply for a loan and show why he was denied? I know what contempt of court means, and I think you're the one who is a little misinformed. He's probably in contempt of court for refusing to show his bank account/financial records. In court cases, even bench cases, there is this pesky little thing called burden of proof. How would the defendant be a…
/r/MensRights01/04/13 02:40 PM
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I thought I was pointing out the general ridiculousness of this mentality, not accusing anyone of it. I'm sorry if you thought I accused anyone of thinking like this. It would help the MRM if you tried to be more open to a discussion, than automatically resorting to anger to convey a point. You catch more bees with honey, but I guess why would you want bees, right? No disrespect, I'm still new to this, and it's difficult to understand your point of view if you assume that I don't give your opini…
/r/MensRights27/03/13 03:01 PM
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Sorry, I'm kidding, sarcasm can be difficult to convey in text. I thought you were also being sarcastic. It's a bad attempt to relay the message that telling a person they got raped because they dressed a certain way, or they were in a bad part of town, or they "asked for it" is not a logical process. When applied to men, it is just as ridiculous as the advice to women.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 02:42 PM
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Come on, dude. I'm sorry you've experienced unpleasant misandrists in the past, but you don't have to be rude. I'm trying to respect your points of view, but when you degrade others like that it's frustrating for me to take you seriously. Don't resort to vulgarity and anger, you only make yourself look ignorant.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 02:35 PM
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Makes tons of logical sense, right?
/r/MensRights27/03/13 02:33 PM
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Right, but your original post suggested that none of those things ever happen to anyone. I agree with you, I think we're just misunderstanding each other. these are all the things women go through but no men and therefor misandry isn't real and stop bitching about how men have problems too The point isn't to put down men, it's was a bad attempt to switch the gender roles some rape victims face. Such as "dont wear slutty clothes because then you're be asking for it" or "don't walk alone at night.…
/r/MensRights27/03/13 01:39 PM
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... that was kind of the point. These are things a lot of women are told. It was meant as a crude/ridiculous/sarcastic joke.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 03:46 AM
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Thanks so much! It's pleasant respectful conversationalists like yourself that honestly keep me coming back here. I wish we could work together, but it feels so hopeless sometimes. I think with level-headedness and respect, tons can be done!
/r/MensRights27/03/13 03:44 AM
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You have a lot more to learn if you think the MRM is not applying emotion as an argument. I totally understand and respect your opinion, but both feminists and the MRM are guilty of over-emotionalizing serious situations. I am of course speaking from my own point of view, and I'm including some extremists that perhaps you don't agree. For example, this study reveals female rape victims enjoyed the experience. I disagree whole-heartedly with the article and reasoning behind it. I think it is a di…
/r/MensRights27/03/13 03:42 AM
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I mean no disrespect, but I think this was the key aspect of the article. “Single-parent families tend to emerge in places where the men already are a mess,” said Christopher Jencks, a professor of social policy at Harvard University. “You have to ask yourself, ‘Suppose the available men were getting married to the available women? Would that be an improvement?’ ” Instead of making marriage more attractive, he said, it might be better for society to help make men more attractive. This is an unfa…
/r/MensRights22/03/13 02:29 PM
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You can't leave the country if you're on parole or committed a felony. Refusing to pay child support, or any form of money owed, can be considered a felony. You have the right to leave the country at any time as long as you're an upstanding citizen in the eyes of the law. Committing a felony limits your upstanding citizen status. If everyone fled the country when they owed money, regardless of whom is receiving the money, we'd have an economic crisis. The law was obviously made because people we…
/r/MensRights18/03/13 04:56 PM
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The women who make those statements are shallow pricks and you should call them out on it. You're right that a lot of people don't call them out. People suck sometimes and I'm sorry you have to deal with it. I really understand your point of view and how frustrating it is, that ABC study was really interesting. I respect your point of view and how rationally you discussed this issue, despite my opposing point of view. I wish more people were as level-headed as you, feminists and MRA's alike. Bet…
/r/MensRights14/03/13 08:46 PM
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Try being a tall girl sometime and then get back to me. It's something of a two way street, and I try to not let it get me down. I'm roughly a head taller than a majority of my friends, guys and girls. I've dated guys shorter than me, because I don't let height be a reason to date someone, and I kind of don't have a choice. That twitter account is disgusting, and I'm sorry it exists. I understand it's different, and I'm sorry these immature assholes exist. It's unfair, but I still don't think it…
/r/MensRights14/03/13 08:28 PM
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You're completely right, they aren't real life examples. I just wanted to try to give examples of how the media portrays it for both men and women. I have yet to encounter a man or woman who said "I would date a girl regardless of her body type and physical appearance." It's not a gender issue in my life, it's a shallow personality flaw. I'm sorry it is an issue for you. Agree to disagree, I guess. I think you're splitting hairs a little bit here, but again, that's my opinion. Thanks for discuss…
/r/MensRights14/03/13 08:12 PM
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I'm sorry, but you're wrong. This is not a double standard. Men say things like that all the time. It's constantly perpetuated in the media for men, look at any tv show starring Charlie Sheen, the whole cast of Entourage, and every other romantic comedy ever made. It's completely and 100% respectable for men and women to outright say "I won't date a fat person." It has nothing to do with gender, its about personality. I respect your opinion, but disagree with your logic. You're confusing prefere…
/r/MensRights14/03/13 08:02 PM
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I'm still unsure what you mean by that. How is it a double standard to have a preference, if both sexes have a preference? I 100% agree there is an unfair advantage for shorter men, but I'd also make the argument that it can be just as difficult for taller women to date. By society's standards, both are limited to their potential partners because of their height. I disagree with the standards, height should not be a factor when people date. I would not call it a double standard, though, I'd call…
/r/MensRights14/03/13 07:51 PM
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I think you're logic is a little flawed. I would argue this is more of a personality based issue, not a gender issue. Both men and women can be shallow. Men constantly complain about the weight/looks of women, Peter Griffin's "No Fat Chicks" is perhaps the best example of this situation. The media sexualizes both men and women, David Beckham's underwear commercial last year and even the new polo ad this year sexualize the bodies of men that has historically been held for women. I don't know if i…
/r/MensRights14/03/13 07:45 PM
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Well said.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 12:52 AM
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This article from Forbes is an interesting, albeit sexist article, stereotyping both genders. It's an interesting how the author argues the same reasoning as Farrell, with kind of opposite examples. Farrell gives a much more coherent, respectful, logically-based answer, while the Forbes article just overhypes traditional stereotypes.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 08:42 PM
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I'm just giving historical context, it doesn't mean it's right.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 02:03 PM
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Unfortunately, the original "white knighting" was created under the assumption that women are not equal men, which is why it's associated with misogyny. Historically, knights were not the nice guys that modern day fairy tales often portray them. The message is nice, but it will be associated with misogyny whether intended or not. I really like the dad one though!!
/r/MensRights28/02/13 12:15 AM
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I'm curious what you mean by disadvantaged healthcare opportunities. Could you expand on it a little for me? I'm ignorant on that issue. Also, I'm a little lost when you say financial burdens, I understand the societal pressure to provide for the family is astronomical. To put the blame on women spending 80% of the consumer income does not seem basis for a financial disadvantage/injustice, it seems more of a life injustice if that makes sense. I would argue women are spending 80% for the benefit…
/r/MensRights27/02/13 06:29 PM
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It wasn't anti MRM, if anything it gave a fair analysis of both sides of an issue. People have started to listen to the MRM. I'd argue 90% of what he wrote, while not the best writing, was accurate. Generalizations, maybe, but they're accurate.
/r/MensRights26/02/13 08:27 PM
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Not at all, I was asking if CaptainDancyPants was suggesting that was what feminist think. I'm not assuming anything, because I want to understand and discuss this valid point of view, not fight about it. They way he worded his reply, however, was elusive, relying on fancy words instead of proving a point, if that makes sense. Could you maybe explain what he meant? I still don't understand what he was trying to prove, hence the further questions. The way he blamed rape as a way for women to "rem…
/r/MensRights19/02/13 08:19 PM
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Then why do they trivialize violent rape by equating it to any other heterosexual act performed by a male? The way they throw the term around so lightly, you'd swear they didn't really care. Are you suggesting feminists think all heterosexual men are rapists? I used to be a bit of a white knight about rape accusations, but now I think the entire all-encompassing rape hysteria is simply a shit test to remove all but the most sexually aggressive males from the gene pool. I don't mean to offend you…
/r/MensRights18/02/13 06:39 AM
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Okay, fair enough, but you didn't answer my original question. Now men do the hard and dangerous work, but women are now in control of how and when they do it. How? I'm not trying to be offensive or rude. I'm just curious what you mean.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 04:30 AM
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Fair enough. I guess I don't understand the correlation between hard and dangerous work, and how/why/when men have lost control.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 04:22 AM
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Can you expand on this a little more? Do you mean that men are not in control of their finances, or do they receive less respect for working difficult jobs, or perhaps both? I don't mean any disrespect, but about 80% of sweatshop workers are women. What defines "hard and dangerous work" and why should men be the only ones who have to partake in it?
/r/MensRights18/02/13 03:06 AM
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I'd argue both are irrational fears. If you think everyone is always going to rape you, I do not think feminists made you think that. Feminists work to stop rape, not perpetuate it. Do they always get it right? Obviously not, as groups like this continue to emerge and shed light on ignored issues, like wrongful accusations of rape and unfair generalizations placed on men associated with rape. If you think the only reason marriages fail is because women are money hungry man-haters, again I think …
/r/MensRights18/02/13 02:11 AM
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You made an incoherent statement and I misinterpreted it. I was wrong. I guess I didn't apologize to you for it, so I understand your anger and assumption that I "have zero intellectual integrity." You should try to be a little more forgiving of people, I'm trying to understand your point of view. You're making it difficult, you didn't respond with anything besides "idiots aren't welcome... you made up shit that I didn't say." You didn't try to engage me in a discussion to prove me wrong. You re…
/r/MensRights05/02/13 06:09 PM
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Super helpful, a study that opened my mind to statistics and studies I haven't heard about, and a link to BPD. This is why you guys will never amount to anything, you're unwilling to have difficult conversations. If you had honest intelligence and decent people skills, maybe you'd be half as successful as feminists, and be able to prove your point. People still believe mens rights is considered history class, where we learn about how white men did all these awesome things and sometimes minoritie…
/r/MensRights05/02/13 04:40 PM
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I guess I'm an idiot for thinking I could have a calm conversation with an opposing point of view. My silly imagination is so active.
/r/MensRights05/02/13 04:21 PM
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My misinterpretation, and I apologize. Could you point me to the statistics that suggest domestic violence is bi-directional? I'd be interested in reading more about that.
/r/MensRights05/02/13 02:09 PM
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The term "men's rights" is inherently sexist as well.
/r/MensRights05/02/13 12:28 AM
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in reality it is not so clear and most often both are at fault. SarcastiCock somewhat implied the victim was "asking for it". I guess I jumped the gun, pun intentional, and assumed SarcastiCock was suggesting a person deserves whatever violence they tolerate. Devils advocate, nay, the possibility of an opposing point of view, is not welcome in this subreddit.
/r/MensRights05/02/13 12:20 AM
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That is kind of an ignorant statement. Abuse is cyclical. If a woman is abused/molested as a child, she is more likely to be emotionally abusive to the people in her life, thus she becomes the abuser. More often than not, the abuser was once abused. I agree that there might be some middle ground/area for dispute on labeling one party as the abuser and the other party as the victim, but to suggest a person deserves physical violence is unfair. The only potential I could see is self-defense, but I…
/r/MensRights04/02/13 10:57 PM
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I disagree. Homeland security isn't going to say "this woman hasn't paid her $4500 due to her ex husband and kids, but you know what, she deserves this $5000 vacation, let's give her an exception." I understand in most cases of child support, women are favored. That's unfair gender based rulings and it's inexcusable and wrong. Unless you're working for the CIA/international business/a job that requires you to travel, you don't need a passport. If you're working a job that requires international …
/r/MensRights26/11/12 10:25 PM
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It doesn't only require men who are in debt of child support pay, correct? Gender isn't a factor, so if a woman also owed $2500 in child support they also wouldn't be given a passport. I'm sure there's a fee for renewing a passport, this suggests so, but I could be wrong. Child support is so flawed, but fiscally if you can afford a trip that requires you to be out of the country I think it suggests you can pay off the $2500 debt required to pay for your kid. I think it's trying to prevent parent…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 05:44 PM
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To play devils advocate, is this a gender based rule, or does it only specify child support debt? Of course the majority of men are forced to pay child support, so I guess the question is obsolete, but I'm curious. Also, if you're renewing a passport isn't it about $150, money that could maybe go towards owed child support instead? And if you're fortunate enough to afford a passport/the trip that requires a passport, couldn't you also argue that it's a protection to ensure the money owed is paye…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 05:15 PM
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Aaaaand I broke the first bullet. I apologize. I genuinely want to understand this subreddit and thought something like that might help. Sorry if I offended/bothered! Thanks, this was very helpful!
/r/MensRights01/10/12 10:21 PM
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This is the same kind of ignorance I previously gave to this subreddit. Not all women want those frills and romance, someone prefer to clean and cook for themselves; they are called feminists. I fall under this category, hence the original offense to this subreddit. I agree that a relationship should share the burden of unwanted activities, but I also don't want to be pressed when I've clearly said no thank you, as is the continued advice on here. Agree to disagree, I think, and maybe we should …
/r/seduction04/09/12 09:02 PM
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The top comments from this thread. This general thread. This checklist kind of changed my opinion, but this shots it down. This surprised me in a great way, and has opened my eyes to what you guys are defending. But this is the mentality that offends me the most. I guess it gets results if you guys love it so much. The more research I do, the more I guess I can start to understand this subreddit. Best of luck to you.
/r/seduction04/09/12 08:50 PM
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I think I judged way too early, you're right, and I again apologize. I still, however, find the whole idea of an "alpha male" incredible sexist and feeding into a misogynistic world. I think you should campaign for a better term, Renaissance man comes to mind, but I guess that isn't considered sexy. I applaud your efforts to better yourselves and wish you the best of luck. It doesn't matter what I think, and honestly I hope you find happiness.
/r/seduction04/09/12 08:40 PM
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I don't think I can stomach much more. I browsed enough, and if this is an improvement for you guys, I'm not attracted to the direction you're headed in. My opinion doesn't matter, all that matters is how you guys feel about yourselves and that you're working on yourself. I support the cause, I just can't support the way you guys are attempting to achieve it. Best of luck to you.
/r/seduction04/09/12 08:10 PM
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I'm sorry, I honestly didn't realize that seduction was such a confidence booster. I don't understand this subreddit and I'll stop trying. I didn't mean to insult, but as a woman browsing this subreddit, I must say, it is not attractive. Best of luck to you, I genuinely hope you find confidence and happiness.
/r/seduction04/09/12 07:47 PM
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Explain to me, then, this idea of "alpha status"? It would appear the only form of self-gratification on here is to fuck bitches and be superior to other douche bags. I genuinely believe if you want help attracting women, you should be getting your advice from women. We clearly disagree on this, and I clearly don't understand it. I won't apologize for my opinion, but I am sorry if I offended you. I realize my post was probably too harsh, but women will be able to help a guy on tips on how to be …
/r/seduction04/09/12 07:34 PM
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As a female I believe I could give better insight into how I want to be "seduced" as opposed to a bunch of guys telling me how I want it. Agree to disagree, I guess, but I'm insulted this subreddit exists. I am one female, but I gather most females would not like this. I don't mean to troll, but if the OP genuinely doesn't want to come off as creepy, I'm assuming its towards women, and women would be able to give better tips how to not be creepy than other guys.
/r/seduction04/09/12 07:22 PM
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I am a female and I can say with confidence this subreddit will get you no where. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but if you believe in this you should also believe you're not going to find any girl who respects herself.
/r/seduction04/09/12 06:51 PM
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This entire subreddit is creepy, so you really shouldn't be getting advice from other creeps. If you seriously want some advice, try /r/askwomen or other female subreddits because they will give you FEMALE advice, not other guys using tricks that sometimes work.
/r/seduction04/09/12 06:23 PM
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This is a great article.
/r/MensRights01/04/12 07:52 PM
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The "under 35 make the most money" is wrong. Maybe combined they all do, I'm not sure if that's what the statistic was referring to, but women make less money than men. for example but I totally agree with the majority of this article though!
/r/MensRights01/04/12 06:02 PM
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