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Your problem is you are accepting the bulls**t idea that men are a privileged group, which is non-sense in modern Western countries. This is starkly illustrated by the background of the average feminist. Most come from rich families, have a private education and went to an elite university. They are more privileged than 99% of men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/23 10:33 PM
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The problem with toxic masculinity, is women actively reward it and it relies on the subjective judgement of women. I will give you some examples from my workplace, to illustrate my point. Colleague A is anomalously sent lube, sex toys and condoms. They are placed in her inbox and then the guy reveals his identity and asks her out. Luckily for him see said yes because god knows how many harassment rules he broke if she complained. Another guy tells a joke to a group of us, which none of us saw a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/23 04:22 PM
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Oh so you just didn't understand it? Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 09:45 PM
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Oh dear, someone who doesn't bother to read properly. I didn't say everyone over 6 foot is like that, I said that many women seem to have no problem dating men whose only attribute is their height. I will give you another example. Successful women I know is supporting her boyfriend, who dropped out of a job he found too stressful. He keeps bumming money off her to setup one failed business after another. The guy is frankly a depressive and not much fun. Would you like to guess how tall he is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:02 PM
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Then you need to engage that thing you keep between your ears. It begins with the letter b,
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:53 PM
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I think that women who have the 6 foot rule can often shoot themselves in the foot. The number who tolerate mediocre boyfriends because the the top of his head is 6 foot or more off the ground is hilarious. For example I was chatting to a woman in the library, we were getting on and her boyfriend wandered over. Shame for me that was taken but I was astonished that such an attractive women would date such a mediocrity. The guy could barely string a sentence together, his clothes were covered in s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:11 PM
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Sigh, you just don't get it do you? In the old days that was fine because the consequences for men fucking up was just a bit of embarrassment. Now it can be a meeting with HR, reported to their university, a video of them uploaded calling them a pervert or even criminal charges. The last sounds nuts but actually happened in the UK. An autistic teenage boy approach women his own age to ask them out. Now lets be clear, he never assaulted anyone or did anything illegal. His only crime was playing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:06 PM
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You're right and the situation is made even worse by the prick teasing behaviour of many women. The same women who get outraged at men they don't desire approaching them, are the ones who go on a night out with no money and lead one man after another on to get free drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:00 PM
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I get your point and it simply proves how clueless you are. Women are attracted to high status men. I know feminists like you think it is a massive burn to attack men for being deluded and not being desirable. In reality is just further proof of cluelessness. Men are well aware that only a small number of men are high status enough for women to desire them. Plenty of older men are members of that elite group women desire, whereas a women's sex appeal is linked to age and fertility. Men don't wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:43 PM
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Oh dear, you really are clueless aren't you? Women are attracted to status and power. Sure most middle aged men aren't in a position to have the sex lives of their dreams. So what? The brutal reality, is most men of any age can't can't the sex lives they truly desire. Only a small majority have the high status to do that but the critical thing is that isn't age dependent. Whereas for women it is. Women are extremely desirable in their youth but non-entities once they lose their fertility. You ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:20 PM
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It is a classic way of dismissing people who are inconvenient, you de-humanise them, make them none people. Incel males don't fit into the feminist worldview; feminism is based on the premise of male privilege and power. So a group of men who are in sexual poverty and socially isolated throws a huge spanner into the works. To admit they exist is to question the basis of universal male privilege and to acknowledge that women have privilege and power when it comes to sex and dating. So feminists a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/23 09:13 PM
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Oh dear, you haven't much real world experience have you? It is laughable to claim no 50 year old man could beat a 20 year old when it happens all the time. You think that a woman would prefer a short spotty young looking 20 year, to a successful mature 50 year old? Some would but plenty would go for the older man. Still live in a fantasy world if it makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:04 PM
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Not enough manpower. The sad truth is that there is no military solution to this conflict, the only answer is to talk and compromise. We learnt that in Northern Ireland and both the Israeli's and Palestinians need to learn the same lesson, otherwise this cycle of violence will never end.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/23 06:32 PM
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Sorry that line of attack isn't going to work against me. Most people live in a fantasy Disneyland in which they think they are smarter, better looking and more charismatic than they are. Most people can't face the fact they will age and die. I am realist, I see the world for how it is. Men age, they get fat and they lose their looks. However as realist I know men and women are not the same in this regard, Male fertility lasts much longer than female fertility, hence why high status older men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:20 PM
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This was a point made by the French writer Houellebecq. He said that sexual freedom destroyed the idea of romantic love. Love is the illusion that only that person can male you feel that way, only that person can give you pleasure. Love was a necessary lie to keep couples together as they got old and fat. This is source of feminists and female rage. That blew up when they undermined what they saw as the oppression institution of marriage but didn't take into account how women decline as they age…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:19 AM
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Once you strip out the conspiracy rubbish and the likes of Andrew Tate, much of the red pill stuff is common-sense. If you want to understand women, you watch what they do, you don't listen to what they say. Women have a false impression of themselves, they want to pretend they are deeper than they are and they don't want to take responsibility for their own poor life choices. Women are drawn to dominant men. Some of these men are great guys, some of them are leaders, people who care and use the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:12 AM
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Biology, men want women. To be fair you can ask the same question of feminists. Even those who claim to want nothing to do with men are still outraged and irrationally angry at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:06 AM
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To be fair when it comes to violence and women I am sexist. For example, if a woman attacked me I would struggle to defend myself because I am not convinced I would be able to hit a woman. I am deeply uncomfortable with sports like women's boxing and I have the old fashioned attitude that women should be kept away from violence. As for the draft, as a Brit I object to it on practical grounds. Conscript armies might be big but man for man they would be no match for the highly trained and all volu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/23 05:11 PM
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You're kind of right but also kind of wrong. Take quantum physics, yes there are many ways you can interpret what in means in terms of how the world works overall but it isn't really subjective. Quantum systems behaviour in probabilistic ways. We might not understand the why but that doesn't mean there is anything subjective about the way a quantum system behaves. It is a subtle point but it is important because misunderstanding of quantum physics is a gateway to allot of woo and non-sense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/23 05:06 PM
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it is difficult for me to get involved in such debates because I have to admit a prejudice. I studied science and engineering. In science and engineering clarity is important because you don't want to get it wrong. Much as it might not look like it to outsiders, simplicity is important because the subject is hard enough without adding extra complexity. So when I see stuff posted about social sciences my immediate reaction, is the emperor has no clothes. That the complex jargon filled language is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/23 03:48 PM
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So what is she and feminism offering lonely and isolated men? A man who struggles to form sexual relationships with women asks her for advice, what does she say? Well usually it goes something like this, she will tell him to stop being toxic, to stop being entitled to sex, objectifying women and embrace feminism. It is meaningless rubbish; plenty of toxic shallow men succeed with women. As for embracing feminism, utterly laughable. As if reading feminists blogs and the Female Eunuch is suddenly …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/23 03:46 PM
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They don't recognize it till it starts to slip away. Much of feminist rage is really about their own mortality and loss of sex appeal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/23 03:12 PM
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Oh it is a non-sense claim, the reason why such clothing is empowering, is because it is empowering in an sexual way. Women want the sexual attention of men and there is nothing wrong with that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 03:05 PM
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Pretty any woman can get laid anytime she wants and get a relationship anytime she wants in her teens and early 20's. The idea that the majority of young women don't much attention is laughable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 03:00 PM
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Oh that is easy, feminists claims about false rape accusations either rely on prosecutions for perverting the course of justice or false rape accusers admitting they made a false allegation. They assume all other allegations are true, which is of course non-sense. The reality is, it is impossible to know how many false allegations there are because the sort of person who would make such an allegation is hardly likely to admit that is something they have done. What we do know is that women do lie…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/23 11:50 PM
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Meaningless woo.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/23 03:13 PM
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You can't separate a woman from her sex appeal, it is part of who she is. In the same way women make shallow judgements about men based on things like height. Besides which, a woman who comes into a professional setting wearing high heels, a short skirt and a low cut top, knows exactly what she is doing. She is sexualising herself and frankly I am not going to be judge by feminists for desiring her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/23 03:13 PM
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Objectification is old fashioned religious shaming about sex, given a new progressive coat of paint. To understand why feminism is such a mess, when it comes to sex and sexuality, you have to turn to biology. Young women have astonishing sexual power, they could sleep with multiple men everyday of the year, with virtually no effort. In fact their sexual desirability is so high she can use it as a form of currency. Then that is taken away from her, by the time she reaches her 40's and 50's men ba…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/23 03:08 PM
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Really? So in your field women work the same hours as men? They don't prioritise work life balance more? They go into the same competitive fields as men? Well we know the answer to that, which is men and women in the legal profession behave in different ways.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/23 09:09 AM
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The different is, even an ugly women can get sex and relationship. The ugly broke guy can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:23 AM
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That is what women claim but the anger many of those women feel towards men reveals the truth. The problem for women is there is a big gap between the guy they can get for a one night stand and the guy who will stay with them long term. Pretty much any woman can get a hot guy to pump and dump them. The problem is they really want that guy to hang around and become their boyfriend or husband. So women end up in a horrible trap, they know what it is like to f*ck an alpha guy but they can't keep hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:22 AM
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Some partnered people, I suggest you head over to the dead bedroom forums and look at the stats on dead bedrooms. It is remarkable how many women view sex as a chore they have to perform to get a partner and can stop bothering with once they have a ring on their finger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:19 AM
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It sucks especially for men because men don't usually have as many options as women, and women often share guys with no problem. However, some women with severe mental illness (which is more common than you think) do have problems getting partners and men denying that is part of the problem. Those women simply cannot trust people. In any case, women need more confidence to establish relationships so they naturally limit their options, so they also suffer loneliness, although it is another kind o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:17 AM
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I call it womansplaining, when a woman thinks she knows more about the male experience, male problems and how the male mind works than an actual man. The reason why women and especially feminists are so reluctant to acknowledge the struggles of men, is it involves acknowledging their own privilege and power. While accepting that their claims of male privilege are overblown. If you read what actual men have to say, one of the big male issues is sex and relationships. How men are made to feel invi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/23 07:02 AM
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It is complete non-sense, the reality is so called male dominated fields have been bending over backwards for years to attract more women. My masters is in engineering and if I had been a women I would have had bursaries available to me, extra support on my course and paths to employment closed to men. Yet none of the schemes worked for one simple reason, women don't want to become engineers. It is nothing to do with sexism, the brutal truth that feminists can't face, is women prefer easier jobs…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/23 06:57 AM
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Women are attracted to bad boys, they are attracted to scum. It is why I have little sympathy with most women when they complain about men. The majority had plenty of better options which they rejected. You can't date scum and then be surprised when he turns out to be an abusive arsehole.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:25 PM
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You have to remember that most women are completely blind to 90% of men, they don't see them in a sexual way at all. They are completely invisible to them. So any discussion women have about men is already about a small group of high status guys. So of course it looks like to women they live life on the easy setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:23 PM
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toto?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 11:10 AM
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It shows the bias of reddit and the wider media, that such bigoted subs go unchallenged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/23 08:28 AM
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Itto?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 08:26 AM
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Women don't want to take responsibility for their own poor dating choices. They want to pretend that they like nice, sensitive, feminist new men and somehow have been tricked into dating toxic arseholes. If they face the reality that actively prefer toxic arseholes, they would have to take responsibility for f*cking their own lives up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 12:00 AM
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This is the big problem with feminism, the failure of women to acknowledge their role in encouraging the very behaviours that claim to abhor. Women can't complain about toxic masculinity and the patriarchy, if they condemn and ignore any man who doesn't fit into a patriarchal mould. If women don't want to change their dating preferences, they need to quit complaining about male behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:56 PM
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Mainstream discussions of such issues are worthless because they don't ever mention the interaction between the sexual and economic systems. Houellebecq, one of the my favourite writers, said there are two forms of wealth. Social and sexual wealth. Women get sexual wealth by default, which means there is far less pressure of them to chase wealth and status. A woman can get laid and get a relationship whatever her job, however poor she is and however low status her work is. For men it is very dif…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 12:43 PM
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No they are all feminist myths. The problem feminists had is they won, which rendered their movement completely obsolete. No more gender studies posts in universities, no more book deals for feminists or cushy jobs turning out articles for "progressive" newspapers. So they had to create a make believe society, in which the patriarchy is always getting stronger and women are poor little victims. With the added bonus make believe discrimination can never be beaten, therefore guaranteeing there is …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 07:40 AM
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You reap what you sow, one day she will be a fat ugly 50 something and no-one will give her the time of day.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/23 03:14 PM
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Sigh, the left just don't get it do you? You don't win by calling people names, you don't win by talking down to them, you don't win by patronising them. Yet when you try to get anyone on the left to listen, their nose is bent of joint and you get a response like yours. Which amounts to, why can't the little people understand all the good we have been doing for them? Well maybe if you tried talking to them, instead of insulting them, they would.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/23 07:33 PM
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Here is the problem with that argument. It is probably true but if you have two sides of the political debate and one side listens to you. While the other side dismisses all your problems and calls you toxic slime. Which are you going to back? Has it occurred to the modern left that if it stops abusing people and calling them names, it might get more support?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/23 08:27 PM
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The left doesn't have anything to offer men other than abuse and loathing. The irony is, the right, which are suppose to hate the poor. Are more willing to listen to the problems of low status men than the left. The left truly has lost its way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/23 10:49 PM
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Why is being lonely always seen as being a perosnal moral failure on the man's part? When a woman says she's lonely people tell her how sweet she is, how smart she is, and how one day she'll have friends and a relationship (if she's single). If a man is lonely he's told that he's probably a sexist, racist, predator jackass that needs 1 billion hours of therapy, ten thousand different hobbies and that he doesn't deserve to socialize because he's actually a bad person and he should just be alone b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/23 07:58 PM
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With all that out of the way, this is the issue I keep running into with people who claim they want to help: they can't go five minutes without accusing you of only wanting sex, and they keep acting like if you're lonely it's your fault because you're consciously or unconsciously a bad person. Let's start with the only wanting sex thing. Towards the end of the video he goes on to talk about how men treat women like trophies to be earned and that's why they aren't having success and that they sho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/23 07:55 PM
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You think Mila Kunis is undateable? I think your standards maybe just a tad high.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 07:46 PM
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This is the reason claims that feminism isn't a hate movement and will liberate men are laughable. Here is a vulnerable guy asking for advice and all he gets is abuse.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 07:44 PM
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Women don't want empowerment, they much prefer playing the victim. Power means responsibility and if they admitted they hold all the power in the sexual marketplace. They would have to admit that there deeply toxic relationships are their own fault. As you say it ridiculous that women condemn lonely men as toxic, when they choose to date and sleep some of the most toxic men on the planet.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 07:40 PM
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I am afraid that our man hating feminist society is simply too far gone. Look how the birthrate has collapsed in every Western country. Societies that embrace feminism simply die out and that is what we are living through.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/23 02:45 PM
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The European electorate doesn't want mass migration and the asylum system is seen as a way of bypassing those wishes. With economic migrants claiming to be refugees. This isn't helped by the majority of those claiming to be refugees being working age young men. The blunt reality is a majority of the European electorate don't buy their claims. My point is, if you want open borders and mass migration you have to make a case for that. Trying to achieve it via the backdoor of the asylum system was a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/23 03:31 PM
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It has nothing to do with men's liberation, it is a feminist subreddit and modern feminism is fundamentally prejudiced against men. You can't be liberated by bigots.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/23 03:26 PM
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By toxic gamer do they mean him insisting that the end product had at least some vague relation to the source material? Judging by the disaster which was season 2, the Witcher could have done with a few more toxic gamers on set.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/23 06:34 PM
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To be fair to him, it would only take one crazy to make up a story about him and his career would be destroyed. There is no defence against such a witchhunt.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/23 03:38 PM
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Henry Cavill? A man who most women drool over is an incel?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/23 03:37 PM
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It isn't just limited to Japan, we have NEETS in the West, who are similar thing. Men who have withdrawn from the world because they feel completely excluded from it. Part of this is due to work and the modern economy but the struggles the have with dating play a big part as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/23 03:36 PM
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Exactly, it is the tired old undeserving poor argument directed at a new target because feminism doesn't know how the handle the issue of male sexual invisibility and poverty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/23 03:34 PM
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The problem with incels is they don't fit in the feminist worldview. In that view of the world men are privileged, they are paid more, they are listened to and they have exploited the sexual revolution to their own benefit. Women are a class of victim's oppressed by these evil sexist. So a man who is rejected by every woman he approaches, who treated like a creep and is depressed because he has no sex life, possibility of a relationship or ever having a family is a big problem for the feminist n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/23 03:32 PM
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Go faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:37 PM
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OK "dude", whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 08:29 AM
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It is what it is. Men and women are different, any social system that fails to acknowledge that is doomed to fail. The world of men means more men fail but it is also why men excel. It has nothing to do with some patriarchal conspiracy against women. Men are driven to excel in a way that women aren't because a woman's sex life isn't linked to status in the same way as a man's.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/23 02:58 PM
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The irony of being given a lecture on improving social skills from someone who obviously has no social skills. Stop being a pussy? You need to growup.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:36 PM
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Men and women exist in very different realities. Female rage, in the form of feminism, is fuelled by the fact women only notice the elite men. They see a world in which men have the top jobs, earn more than them and whose peak sexual years stretch for decades, instead of the few years women have in their twenties. You can understand why feminists are so angry. What women don't see is the mirror of that, the rewards for success for men are great but the punishment for failure are brutal. The vast…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/23 01:33 PM
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Yes but that is the point of the scientific method and peer review. It is setup to find bulls**t and woo. It doesn't always work but that is the foundation of the subject. To be fair the same is true of humanities like history, though they are far more vulnerable to identity politics non-sense, claims that all narratives are equally true. Alas when you get to subjects which are full woo, like gender studies, academic standards barely matter. It is all about the correct message and politics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/23 08:45 AM
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When a man can be destroyed in an instance by a post on the internet, a complaint at work or complaint for trying to chat up a woman who is a member of the same sports club as him. Is it any wonder they are not bothering? This isn't paranoia, the later two actually happened. At my workplace a guy face disciplinary proceedings for politely asking a colleague out and the same thing happened at a tennis club I was a member of. A male member of the club faced loosing his membership for the crime of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/23 02:34 PM
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This is total bullshit. There are plenty of academic subjects outside the hard sciences. They’re evidence-driven and valuable. You’re not better than anyone because you have a grasp on physical sciences and physical sciences themselves are not better or more valuable than other sciences. Oh I will admit I was arguing using exaggeration, I was hoping an arts/humanities grad might take the bait and like a big old fish you did. I actually have respect for many of the none science subjects, which is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/23 08:10 AM
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The only real academic subjects are the hard sciences and mathematics because they go where the evidence leads them. They have little choice, woo and bulls**t doesn't work if you are using theoretical results for real world applications. For example, feminists tried to attack Physics in various ways and one of them was to claim fluid dynamics was sexist. Crazy but alarmingly true. Here is the thing, if you are an aerospace company designing a plane. Do you listen to the fluid dynamics expert or …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/23 10:48 PM
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They don't like being called out as hypocrites, when they complain about male shallowness all the time. In a way feminists are right, women aren't as shallow as men, they are much shallower. Get men talking about the women they fancy and they are the women about them. The everyday, the ordinary, as well as unobtainable supermodels. When women do the same, well hang on to your hats, their standards are insane. I remember being at a work do at a table which was 90% women, were they started complai…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/23 03:53 PM
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It is true to say that it is laughable to claim most men had power throughout history. Your average peasant or serf was pretty much powerless. Modern feminism still ignores class, with feminists in the UK, for example. Laughably claiming a man born into a broken family on a sink estate in Sunderland, is more privileged than a women from a rich family who attended an elite private school. As for society, there is an obvious mathematical reason feminist societies are doomed to fail. Feminists don'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/23 12:03 AM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:52 PM
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They are the ultimate cherry picked stats. The reality is, more men commit suicide than women and men do worse in education than women. They are also more likely to be unemployed and homeless. The world is sexist but against men, not women.
/r/AntiFeminists13/08/23 12:05 PM
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Nothing to justify apart from your unpleasant behaviour and general attitude. To be fair that has allowed the men you reject to avoid your toxic behaviour, so I suppose you are doing them a favour.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:36 AM
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In his main comment but that is to cover the marketing shill. Look at his other posts, they are all about selling expensive matchmaking services and his overseas dating business. If he isn't a scammer, he should have no problem providing the raw data that proves his dating service, which costs 1000's of dollars, works.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:32 AM
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You're wasting your time but you're right. I am old enough to see the results of women's extremely poor dating choices. Broken marriages and toxic relationships they are now trapped in due to kids and no longer having the value in the dating marketplace they once had
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:03 AM
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I am afraid your wrong, the level of rudeness I have experienced from women is truly astonishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:00 AM
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Oh please, if a guy goes in and makes it clear what his intentions are, he is condemned as only wanting one thing. Being told he should get to know her first before making a move. If he gets to know her first, he is condemned as a creep abusing their friendship. It is impossible to win with entitled women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:58 AM
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No it isn't true. Women who claim they are invisible to men are really complaining they are invisible to tall, rich, handsome men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:56 AM
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No need to read more than the first few sentences because they show how wrong you are. Pretty much any women under the age of 40 has hundreds of dating options. It is laughable to claim any of them are invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:55 AM
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Wow what a load of self justifying bulls**t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:53 AM
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Sorry but it isn't that simple. Friendships are a two way relationship, both people involved put the effort into maintaining them. Whereas seduction and courtship is very different, in that situation the man puts in all the effort and he is trying to impress the woman. The problem is, many friendships between men and women look more like the second situation than the first. It is hardly surprising the guy involved gets the wrong idea, when the dynamic looks more like a man pursuing a potential r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:51 AM
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Nah it is just women guilt tripping men and I simply ignore their attempts at manipulation. Women are just as shallow as men, they treat Mr 6 foot and handsome very differently to Mr 5 foot nothing and ugly. Even if they try to justify that shallow behaviour by claiming the later guy is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:46 AM
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If this isn't a scam, Mr LoveCEO here should have no problem opening his company's books to us. Show us the data. How much your clients pay and their success rate. By data I mean the raw numbers, not the bullsh*t marketing stuff. If he won't do that I am calling scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:42 AM
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Western Europeans are just as bad, the problem is the feminist legal system and culture. Which is why foreign brides don't work. What do you think your foreign bride is going to do when she learns about American divorce laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:39 AM
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I am calling it, this is someone promoting their very expensive foreign dating service. Since the poster obviously has a financial incentive to promote these businesses, I would advise people to be very careful before handing their money over. If on the other hand you disagree with that, I have a consignment of left hand hammers you might be interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:37 AM
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LoveScoutCEO your username suggests you work for these guys, so I am afraid I am going to take advice with a pinch of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:35 AM
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One part of the dating industry that I like a lot are matchmakers. There are some great matchmakers out there and if you do not click with their personality there are more. Sorry I have to disagree with this, plenty of matchmakers charge a small fortune and don't get any results. The problem is women and their deluded standards. This was nicely illustrated by an article in the Daily Mail, three 30 something women complaining they couldn't get a long term boyfriend because apps meant men only wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:33 AM
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Feminists are very two face about this. Debate with a feminist and you will be astonished how quickly they resort to shaming terms. Such as "little man", "man up" or "grow a pair". For all their claims about freeing men from the patriarchy, they condemn men for not measuring up to those standards in a heartbeat when it suits them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 11:27 PM
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The clear answer is yes, it is either ignored or laughed at. A good example is the way schools in the UK are failing boys on an industrial scale. It is blatantly obvious our education system is sexist against boys but if you try to make that argument, let alone do anything about. You face instant attack by outraged feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/23 05:57 PM
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That is one of the big problems, the inability of modern adults to make sacrifices for their children. I am fed up of men and women bleating about how hard having kids is. You have no time to yourself, they expect you attention all the time and you can't go on a cheap holiday anymore. Shut the f**k up. You have had your time in the sun, your job is to raise your kids. If you don't like, you shouldn't have f**king had them. Grow the f**k up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:08 AM
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Whatever, Atomised and Platform. They are all basically about the damage done by the sexual revolution to Western society. Though Houellebecq is no Christian reactionary, he both likes causal sex and laments the death of traditional Western society. Alas, he is French, so there is quite of bit pretentious philosophy and woo talk about advance maths he clearly doesn't understand. Still if you can see past that, they are worth a read.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:02 AM
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Husband has a different role to a lover. His job is to pay for the house, father her kids and generally be a breadwinner. Sex is a chore she has to perform, something allot of wives are indifferent to. The more honest ones keep the sex lives going, the lazy ones just stop. This isn't because they have lost interest in sex or their husband isn't communicating. Put it this, think if Chris Hemsworth suddenly appeared and asked if he could fuck her? She would reject him?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:15 PM
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No that is what politically correct types want it to be about. If he is a nice guy who cares about her emotional needs and listens to her, she will want to fuck him. That is all very Disney but it is nonsense. Women will fuck guys they barely know, guys who treat them like shit, who don't give about a damn about her emotional needs and have no interest in communication. Those men will turn her on and make her cum. That is because sex primordial, it is biology, morality doesn't come into it. Look…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:12 PM
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Houellebecq predicted this in his books 30 years ago. He said that marriage was doomed in a era were women had multiple partners, especially when they probably had a better orgasm with a one night stand than with their husband. The situation is made worse by modern divorce laws. What I am about to say isn't politically correct but it is the truth. Women desire men who are desired by other women. Nothing turns a women on more than an attractive woman showing interest in her man. The knowledge tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:08 PM
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Yes because they want a father for their children and a breadwinner. Look at the number of dead bedroom marriages, many of which follow a similar pattern. Husband expects their honeymoon to be a sex filled romp and is shocked to find his new bride has suddenly lost all interest in sex, once she has the ring on his finger. Their sex life picks up briefly when she wants to get pregnant, then pretty much dies. Do you really think that would be happening if she was sharing a bed with a man she actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:46 PM
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Nobody is reading all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:41 PM
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I call it the Zumba delusion, after a pair of sisters I met volunteering at a charity while unemployed. They were in their 30's and past their peak. Yet their list of requirements for a man was unbelievable. They wanted rich, talented, funny, tall, handsome and incredibly fit. Basically the guy they wanted could get any women he wanted, he wasn't going to give two women rapidly heading towards their forties a second glance. Yet these sisters thought otherwise because of how many Zumba classes th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:40 PM
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How can men use sex to get what they want? Sex is what we want. Frasier Crane That is all you really need to know about the power dynamics in relationships. For women sex is a form of currency and they don't even have to sleep with a guy to deploy it. I lost count of the number times in Uni my female flatmates would go out with barely any money. It wasn't an issue, they just got men to pay for their drinks. Or the girl in my class who would flirt with one guy after another to get free tuition. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:35 PM
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It doesn't have a positive message, it is a massively sexist movie and it says allot about our society that reviewers aren't calling it out as such.
/r/MensRights25/07/23 08:05 AM
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Basically it as if someone remade Spartacus but made the rebellious slaves the bad guys. I am surprised the film didn't end with the Ken's nailed to crosses, while the Barbies partied underneath.
/r/MensRights23/07/23 08:33 AM
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On the one hand it is hilarious to see feminists destroying each other in a ludicrous civil war but the other hand there is a serious issue here. There are fanatics who have pushed radical surgery and life altering drugs on very young people. Some of whom are mentally ill or too immature to take such life altering decisions. This has led to people being scarred for life or even taking their own lives, having regretted a decision they took when they were very young. Alas it has become utterly tab…
/r/AntiFeminists15/07/23 04:06 PM
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Ah yes the strong independent women, who can't wait to go part time, give up work or work a cushy hobby job. While still expecting to live in a nice house, take multiple foreign holidays and buy luxury goods. Look don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with women trading on their sex appeal to get a good lifestyle. The problem is modern women think there should be no quid pro quo in that relationship. If you want a guy to be a breadwinner and waling wallet, then you have to uphold your part …
/r/AntiFeminists15/07/23 04:00 PM
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You're right but it is a bit of banal insight. It basically says men who are more successful with women are more successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:48 PM
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Yes, it is easy to be happy being unemployed when you can walk into a job anytime you want. In the same way being single is no big deal when you can get laid anytime you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:57 PM
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I am a natural introvert, shy, quiet, probably on the spectrum. So to be blunt interacting with women is a nightmare for me, especially since my natural personally type simply isn't allowed when you look like me. Quite guy only works for tall and handsome. So to get any women to spend time with me, I have to override my natural personality type, while at the same time remaining interesting enough to hold her attention and not step over the creep line. Which is set very high for me because with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:55 PM
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The problem is a women's sexual power and desirability declines as she ages. Due to simple biology, fertility and youth are linked. Now this really shouldn't be an issue for modern empowered feminist women, who don't want to be objectified. After all they have their careers and hobbies, they don't want to be all about sex. Alas in reality a large percentage of women can't handle loosing their sex appeal, hence the rage directed at young women and men chasing after younger women.
/r/AntiFeminists02/07/23 04:35 PM
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The problem is women only notice a small percentage of men and those men do have better lives. They can get laid easily, have judgement free sex and their looks/status means they tend to be successful in all aspects of their lives. Women don't realise that is only true for a small percentage of men and most men face a world of brutal rejection and invisibility. As others have said, I don't think the average women would last a week if she had to live as a man/
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 11:02 PM
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The unemployment figures mean jack, most Western governments rig them. For example, here in the UK they don't count people not seeking work as unemployed.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 10:57 PM
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This is going to matter because decades of feminism have failed to get masses of women into the wealth generating bits of the economy. If you were cynic you would begin to suspect women actually like working cushy non-jobs in HR and admin. Naughty naughty mustn't think that, will report to nearest feminist re-education camp. So if you tell a large percentage of your wealth creators, who are men, they will have no sex life and no chance of a family life. It isn't too surprising if they decide to …
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 10:56 PM
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It is funny, they actually think they can Thought Police people like the Ministry of Truth in 1984. If they make the rules strict enough, then everyone will think the correct feminist way and we all live in a utopia. The sky will be full of rainbows, Donald Trump won't run for president again and everyone will get a free puppy.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 10:45 PM
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OK I will assume English isn't your first language and leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:48 PM
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Nope, no idea what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:18 AM
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Already happening, give it a few generations and feminism will cease to exist. Feminist Western societies are dying of old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:39 PM
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Pure bulls**t, men get married all the time, tons of men are in long term relationships. The problem is dating apps have convinced you you get a guy out of your league. Sure a top 5% guy will f**k you but they are never going to marry you. You can face reality or you can whine here till you hit the wall and no man wants you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:38 PM
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So you want men to lie to women they don't find attractive, to get them into bed? That sounds in no way toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:35 PM
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Established by whom? Gender studies academies who have ben widely discredited over and over again? Women have agency, women are adults and women are capable of making poor choices. The feminist claims this isn't this case are simply bizarre. Still we will live in your fantasy world, in which women are pathetic little snowflakes and have no control of their lives. How this will actually help them breakout of their pattern of dating one toxic man after another, is beyond me but at least we won't o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:23 PM
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Ah yes the standard cop out, which ironically treats women like they have no agency and like they are children. The reality of course, is many women are well aware of how toxic the men they date are and do it anyway. Alas treating women like adults and making them at least partially responsible for their own dumb choices is completely taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:24 PM
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As a general matter, I'm not personally invested in this topic. I think the dating market tells you what you're worth. If you have niche standards, and repeatedly fail at dating, they are too high. Really? According to feminists two women a week are killed by the their partner in the UK. Care to explain how these men, who have succeeded in the dating market, are better than the men who fail? Of course I suspect I won't get a response because judging by your initial post, rational debate isn't re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:38 PM
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Oh dear, I will have to make this simple for you won't I? Women complain that men only want them for only one thing and don't bother to get to know them first. However when a guy gets to know them first, they are accused of somehow scamming a woman and abusing their friendship, if they want to take things further. The truth is, complaints from women are basically the same as a three year old having a tantrum because they can't have an ice cream. They are the complaints of an incredibly privilege…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:52 AM
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Why I am I bothering? Women are like dodgy politicians, it is impossible to hold them to account for their own behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 06:48 AM
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You're right, getting zero interest from women is not the same as a women who can't find a 6 foot handsome rich guy to be a her boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:43 PM
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You can't have a meaningful discussion about society while bringing up endless exceptions. The you don't don't know every woman/man arguments tend to be made by people in foolish denial about biology and evolution. After all, in 200 hundred years time everyone posting here will be dead. It doesn't matter how much that goes against your feminist narrative, nature doesn't care. The same is true when it comes to human sexuality, you can use feminist non-sense to deny biology till you're blue in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:42 PM
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EDIT: THis post is NOT, repeat NOT, about the situation where a NiceGuy befriends a woman for the express purpose of later expressing sexual interest. STOP TALKING ABOUT THAT. STOP BRINGING THAT UP. THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS POST IS ABOUT. Why would that be a problem? Women can't have it both ways. They can't whine that men don't bother to get to know them before expressing a sexual interest and then whine when men do. Women have to make up their damn mind. Which way do they want it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:38 PM
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Which matters because women are being told a lie by feminists. They are being told that their fertility doesn't decline rapidly as they age and they are just as desirable in their 30's and 40's, as their 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 07:41 AM
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Not as comical as an adult who starts a post with Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 07:38 AM
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If you mean everyone is mortal and going to die, you're right. The different is, men don't depend on their looks and sexuality the way women do. There is nothing sadder than a middle aged woman, who spent her youth living life on the easy setting and suddenly finds without her looks she has nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:51 PM
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Nice strawman, care to actually respond to what I wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:49 PM
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To be fair to them, nobody wants a partner who is going to be hospitalised with multiple health conditions, long before they reach old age. A woman who is 5'2" and 250 pounds is a health disaster area.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 05:28 PM
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Of course but the problem is woman don't know the difference between curvy and obese. Men aren't attracted to women who are one muffin away from a heart attack or a stroke. Nobody is a attracted to type 2 diabetes. Men have never been attracted to the fashion model ideal because lets face it, straight men have little to do with the fashion industry. Unfortunately the body positivity movement has taken that to mean someone on the verge of diabetes, who can barely climb a flight of stairs is sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 05:26 PM
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If you want to deny reality and fight against nature, I suggest you head down to your local beach and demand the tide doesn't come in. It doesn't matter how many arguments you make, how outraged you get, the water will keep coming towards and you will get wet, unless you get out of the way. If is same with non-sense claims like this. The brutal reality is, a woman's fertility declines much faster than a man's and eventually women become completely infertile. It isn't just fertility, pregnancy is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 05:22 PM
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Elephants in denial? There has to be some kind of river based play on words here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:54 PM
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Nobody is mentioning the elephant in the room or should that be the elephant in the bedroom? When I see the number of overweight and obese married women, that is hardly shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:17 PM
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You obviously do, my angry little poppet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:18 PM
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To be honest older women don't come across creepy when they try to be sexual. Sad and pathetic is a more accurate description.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:43 PM
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The first thing I would say, is in my experience, it is women who are the most critical. There was a woman at uni who slept with a different man virtually every night. The men, for obvious reasons, had no issues with this. The women on the other hand hated her. The stuff they said behind her back was truly vile. You also have to understand that men have different criteria for long term partners. No man is going to risk a marriage, in which a women has the power to financially destroy him. Unless…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:41 PM
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Don't worry, that won't be a problem for most of your adult life. Once your looks go, you will be invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:35 PM
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Nah that is what women want to think about themselves but it isn't the truth. The truth that women can't face, is there sexual preferences aren't rational at all. That a guy that treats them like utter s**t and with complete contempt will turn them on and have them gagging for sex. Whereas with a guy who respects them and is a good partner, they can be as dry as the Sahara desert. The idea that husbands with dead bedrooms aren't getting any because they don't do enough housework is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:32 PM
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So explain the vast number of marriages with dead bedrooms? In which wives act if they are doing their husband a massive favour if they actually have sex with them? The idea that long term relationships equals better sex is laughable, for obvious reasons. Allot of women see sex in a long term relationship as an annoying chore, a price she has to pay to get a breadwinner and potential father in her life. Whereas in a hookup or one night stand there isn't another agenda. She is there because she i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:41 PM
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Allot of women have far poorer social skills than they realise. Their looks and sexuality make up for it. I think if women could step back and objectively observe themselves, they would be both astonished and ashamed about the way they treat many men. The level of rudeness from some women is off the scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:35 PM
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I remember listening to women in my workplace say the most insulting and unpleasant things about the appearance of the men in the workplace. It occurred to me, that if I as a guy were to talk about the women in the same way, I would be in front of HR. Women are casually toxic and insulting towards men and they don't think it is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:26 AM
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The collapsing fertility rate in all Western countries shows that it isn't one of feminists greatest plans. Give it a few generations and the crazy cult of feminism will no longer exist. Their prudishness means they don't have babies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/23 10:14 PM
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So what you're saying is it OK to be a bigot insulting an entire gender but not OK to call someone out who does that? Fair enough but to paraphrase Tony Stark, not a great rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:10 PM
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In some universities they literally have induction classes in which they tell male students they are abusers and rapists if they so much look at a woman. However I have seen a glimmer of hope. A new show called the Idol has had a critical trashing by the reviewers, each vowing to be more feminists and politically correct than the last. Basically because it contains sex and nudity feminists don't like. One or two of the comments I have seen about this suggest that people are getting tired of prud…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/23 07:04 AM
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So abusing men by calling them sheltered incels is civil?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:53 AM
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You're not very bright are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:54 PM
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The Nile is not just a river in Egypt. It isn't some "ghetto" women thing, I have known plenty of well educated women who have dated toxic thugs. If that what women want fine but what I can't stand is their complaints about it. If you choose to date toxic men, you can't bitch when it goes horribly wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:06 AM
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That is a myth I am afraid, men are much more likely to be physically assaulted than women. Unless a guy is some 6 foot plus muscle bound guy, he isn't immune from being attacked on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:08 AM
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No, next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:06 AM
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The issue here isn't that men don't appreciate women who have the same interests as them. It is the fact they think that shared interest means men should treat them the same way they would a women they find attractive. When I am with a women I don't desire, I treat her like a man. I expect her to put some effort in, to meet me in the middle. If I met a guy who was passive, who expected me to make all the running in a conversation, I wouldn't give him much time either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:03 AM
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You think the world is any different for men? That anybody gives a s**t about our hobbies, educational achievements and accomplishments either? The problem you have is you have been sold a lie by feminists. The world is full of lonely invisible men. The problem for women is not that they have hard, as you claim. The problem is, you have it far too easy. Your looks and sexuality are incredibly easy way to get attention. All you have to do to be visible is put on some makeup and a little black dre…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:59 AM
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No don't be silly, women have ridiculous standards and in my experience, as they age and get less desirable, their standards go up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:46 AM
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Apps are the major game changer, any woman wanting attention can get her phone out and have hundreds of men hitting on her. Hardly a surprise they all have bloated egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:44 AM
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Women are drawn to toxic men and bad boys. I remember a question asked on a feminist forum, about which man a women would like to leave a bar with. The feminist guy, who respects women, believes in sexual equality and would make a great long term boyfriend/husband. Or the guy who picked a fight with him and knocked him on his arse? The feminists squirmed, they got outraged and did everything to avoid answering the question because they all knew the truth. They wanted to say they would pick the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:39 AM
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Women are the privileged ones in our society, not men. So it is clearly non-sense to focus on their problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/23 08:02 AM
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The problem is, those social structures are breaking down. A good example of this is how the benefits system in the UK use to operate. My cousin became a single mother and the feckless father sodded off to impregnate another women. What happened next astonished me and is one of the reasons I turned against the left. What the left said and reality were completely different. The Guardian, the British left paper of record, said that the benefit system was brutal to single mothers. In reality my cou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/23 03:56 PM
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The entire economic model of the West is broken. The golden age of the West was the 50-70's. That age was broken by energy shocks and increasing none Western competition. What was striking about the golden age, was wages grew steadily and the bosses weren't much richer that the workers. This wasn't great if you were rich, so a new economic system was introduced in the West, starting in the 80's. This involved destroying unions, workers rights and outsourcing jobs to low cost countries. This was …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/23 03:49 PM
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The problem, as others have said, is feminism and its toxic attitude to sex. On the one hand they argue that anything remotely sexual that happens to a woman is toxic and evil. I have seen a feminist organisation claim looking at women was a form of violence. Yet at the same time feminists get outraged if any potential restrictions are placed on female sexuality. In fact the same feminist who argue sex was creepy, evil and a violation. Will then argue women enjoy sex just as men and women should…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/23 03:51 PM
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Nope, no idea what you're on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:24 PM
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Female beauty standards are hardly demanding. All the average woman has to do, is quit eating cake and move occasionally. This seems beyond most western women, alas type 2 diabetes and heart disease don't care about body positivity and other such non-sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:25 PM
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Houellebecq, the French author, figured this out 30 years ago and at the same time diagnosed one of the problems with the modern left. Read his first three books, Whatever, Atomised and Platform. Everyone one of them is about male loneliness and he places the blame firmly at the door of the social and sexual revolution of the 1960's and 70's. He skewers the contradiction at the heart of the modern left. Pointing out that the same leftwing voices that oppose neo-liberalism and absolute free marke…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/23 03:44 PM
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I would like to give you an answer but alas it wouldn't be allowed here.
/r/AntiFeminists18/05/23 03:12 PM
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So what? A large percentage of women are attracted to toxic bad boys, if you're denying that, you're denying reality.
/r/AntiFeminists17/05/23 10:55 PM
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You know most women aren't on dating apps how?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:36 PM
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You're 100% right and frankly women aren't being kind to man by stringing them along.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:07 AM
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Load of rubbish, I have lost count of the number of women who have told me they fell for their boyfriend/husband at first sight. Are you claiming such women are telepaths?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:06 AM
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The problem here is women haven't got a clue what they actually desire and go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:03 AM
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You don't tell how it is, you tell it how you think it is, which is very different. You might believe the shit you spout but it is still shit. Sure your advice can work for the right guy but for many men it leads to creep shaming and complaints of harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:02 AM
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What a load of nonsense. When an attractive guy does that it is seen as attractive, when an unattractive man does it, it is seen as creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:00 AM
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I have you got idea how ridiculous you sound? By any measure a woman in a Western country is one of the most privileged human beings who has ever lived. Yet you act like you live in some dystopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:58 AM
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You're right, it is hilarious how shallow they are and this is what gets them into trouble. They will accept mediocre and toxic relationships because when they saw their toxic man for the first time, he made her wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:55 AM
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Women in the West oppressed? Laughable statement, they are among the most privileged human beings who ever lived.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:52 AM
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You're right, women simply haven't got a clue what the average guy looks like. When they say average, they really mean top 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:50 AM
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Women seem to have this bizarre idea that men only want lingerie models. Yes most men would prefer someone who isn't obese and doesn't smell like she slept in a skip. That hardly makes them picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:48 AM
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Women have two version of themselves, the version they would to be and the woman they actually are. Women want to believe they are emotionally intelligent rational creatures, who make mature none shallow choices when it comes to men. That the repeated problems they face in their relationships is down to all men being toxic and therefore they bare no responsibility for their dating woes. The reality of course is different, women are extremely shallow when it comes to dating and they are actively …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:46 AM
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Yet you prove my previous post correct. Sex is a biological drive, men are attracted to young fertile women, it is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:53 AM
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Not the same thing, many of the women posting here are acting like a guy who fucks them and then doesn't marry them is some kind of borderline abuse or scam. They need to make up their mind, are they comfortable with sex for fun or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:50 AM
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They advise against them because modern women are a bag of crazy, with the added danger of scumbag lawyers out to make a quick buck. SNLs sexual harassment and you sketch nailed it. The only rule is be good looking and don't be bad looking, then you will be OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:16 PM
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Then why is there so much whining here from women about men wanting no strings sex or sex early in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:13 PM
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Modern women think empowerment should equal never having to make sacrifices. Women have all the power in the dating marketplace and if they choose to date bad boys, they shouldn't be shocked if they are pumped and dumped. If women want long term relationships, they have to sacrifice the excitement of bad boys in their youth. Their is no such thing as a free lunch. The alternative is the run straight into the biological clock in a panic and wonder why they can't find a decent guy,
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:11 PM
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Then you're not very bright.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:05 PM
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When it comes to a large percentage of men, you're 100% wrong. One of the great myths is men crave excitement and drama when it comes to sex and dating. In reality most men consider such things to be an annoying pain. It is women who tend to be the immature ones, chasing after excitement and bad boys. Until they hear the biological clock ticking and are outraged the men they rejected when they were younger, don't want to instantly marry them and have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:11 PM
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Science is disliked by many, including sadly many on the left because it destroys many ideas sacred to too many leftwing academics that has bled into leftwing politics. Ideas such as personal experience trumping objective evidence, all narratives are equally valid and there can be different versions of truth depending on your race or gender. This was seen most clearly when identity politics launched a futile attack Physics. Frankly a mad subject to attack because it is extremely difficult to und…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/23 10:22 PM
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It isn't defeatist, it is rational. I don't why so many are desperate to deny science and biology. Maybe it is because American sets the tone the for internet discussions and American society has a large anti-science element and much of America is hostile to rational thinking. Evolution and biology shape our behaviour, ignoring that is ridiculous.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/23 10:11 PM
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No it didn't, charismatic individuals chose to join it. If you think a load of men on the internet, talking about different coloured pills, is going to rival the civil rights movement. You're not living in reality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/23 08:18 PM
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You're wrong, minorities are at the bottom of Social Power hierarchy and they still have political traction. Politics is a numbers game, if enough "loser Men" supported each other, men would have a viable political movement. The fact that men see other struggling men as "Losers" instead of struggling humans is THE problem. The Civil Rights movement was led by charismatic individuals, it was supported by Hollywood stars and sporting greats. In the real world you need that to succeed and gain any …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/23 03:07 PM
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Frank Skinner, it is in his autobiography.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:58 PM
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The problem is the opposite of the one in medicine. Medicine use to take men as the default model, so often the findings when it come to things like heart disease, didn't work as well for women. With socialisation and friendship, the model is female and it is assumed that men should conform to female relationship norms. That male loneliness if caused by men being poisoned by patriarchy and somehow being defective. Basically it is a version of nature vs nurture, which assumes nurture is everythin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/23 04:48 PM
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There is no kind way to put this, a movement of losers will never get any political traction, it will always be mocked. You need successful charismatic men to get on board to succeed and that just isn't happening. Why would men with fulfilling sex and social lives care? Oh the odd highest status guy will screwed over by the family courts or the me-too mob. The problem is, even if they want to be associated with the men's rights movement, they are damaged goods at that point. I honestly can't see…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/23 07:52 AM
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If we lived in 1970, 1980 or 1990 you might have a point but we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 10:34 AM
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So all of you arguing that sex preferences and behaviours aren't innate believe that gay men and women can be reprogrammed to be straight then? Can't have it both ways feminists. If you think straight men aren't governed by instinctual sex drives, your position also means you support those horses**t religious deprograming courses for gay men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 08:28 AM
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You can say the same about your position. It is generally people trying to push a feminist agenda, who desperately try to pretend biology isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 08:25 AM
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OK, use your free will to choose not eat or breath oxygen. See how that works out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 08:23 AM
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You're right but it is pointless making such arguments because we live an age were people believe in woo nonsense. Not that it matters, those who dislike science can have as much positive thinking and buy as many dreamcatchers as they like. Science always wins. After all, in 200 years time, everyone here will be dead. No amount of positive woo thinking horses**t will change that biological reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 08:22 AM
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OK then, if you think we are not governed by biology, I want you to learn to breath underwater. Obviously it is nasty patriarchal biological determinism that insists we have to breath oxygen in a gaseous environment. That if you can just get the right set of Aquamarine crystals, the right therapy and attend enough Yoga classes. You will prove biology wrong and live at the bottom of the ocean.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 08:19 AM
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It is always just men, you have to remember that people like Kay think women are flawless creatures, who never do anything wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 08:16 AM
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You're right but your wasting you time. Post modernists and feminists dislike science because none of their woo emotion based arguments work against it. I studied physics and feminists actually tried to attack that subject. It was funny watching people who could barely count to 10 try to prove Special Relativity was sexist or fluid mechanics didn't work. The same woo fools try to attack biology and evolution with similar nonsense arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 08:15 AM
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In a way you are right, before the sexual revolution sex was highly restricted and most men did find a partner. Though even religion, with threats of eternal damnation, struggle to control people's sexual desires. The idea that feminism and wish washy woo therapy has a hope of fighting sexual instincts is laughable. When you create a free marketplace in sex, the ones who benefit are alpha males and young women, it is that simple. Which is of course why so many women are so rage filled here. Olde…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 08:12 AM
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You can rant as much as you like, reality says you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 07:58 AM
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Laughable bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:28 PM
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You're right but it is a waste of time trying to discuss it. Women aren't even aware this is something they do and either go into denial/get outraged if you point it out. In the long run they hurt themselves with this kind of behaviour, women are so dependent on their looks and sex appeal, they can't function without it. There is nothing sadder than a post-menopausal women who tries to pull the same s**t. Women complain they become invisible as they age but that isn't the truth. Age merely revea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:24 PM
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You might one day find an honest estate agent or politician but you would be a fool to rely on what 99% of them say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:18 PM
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I would agree that if you can, working on your personality and social skills is going to bring you a lot more long term happiness and life improvement Sorry I have no time for this American style positive thinking bulls**t. You can't work on your personality, you have what you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:08 AM
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The problem dear Sophia, is women here and in the wider world are equally deluded about their value in the dating marketplace. Your post shows that. You actually think men care about you money and your career? They don't, that is something women care about, not men. You can work on self improvement and target that promotion as much as you like. Men don't care. The only part of your post that is correct, is looking better will help but even that is limited. The brutal reality is, your value is li…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:05 AM
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One black swan proves nothing. Most women do delude themselves about how they act when it comes to dating. Which is why they end up in one toxic relationship after another.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:56 AM
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Sigh, you just don't get it do you? This ridiculous idea that men are being rejected because they smell like tramps and wear rags is toxic feminist non-sense. It implies all men need to do is shower and buy a decent outfit and all incel ends. Whereas the brutal reality is, female standards for men are absolutely insane, when it comes to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:15 PM
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To be honest I am not sure how true that even is. I remember reading a biography of a famous standup, so a guy with world class social skills. This is a guy who can literally walk into a hostile room and completely dominate it. What was striking was he admitted he faced industrial levels of rejection from women before he was famous and it certainly wasn't because he lacked confidence and social skills. The moment he became famous and successful, women were throwing themselves at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:12 PM
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Waste of time asking this question because women find it impossible to face their true nature. What a women will tell you about herself and how she actually behaves are as different as night and day. Women will say looks don't matter, that it is all about a guy being caring, funny and a decent man. When in reality, if Mr 6'3" and squared jawed comes along, they throw themselves at him in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:10 PM
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Desperate and frankly pathetic feminist dream. All you have to do is look at porn to see what is actually going to happen. If sexbots and AI sex technology becomes a reality, men aren't the gender that are going to become redundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:07 PM
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I am cynic when it comes to most things or the way I see it, I see things how they actually are. If a woman truly desires a man there is none of this waiting non-sense, she can't wait to jump in the sack with him. If she is waiting it is because sex has become transactional. She doesn't really desire the guy, what she actually wants is a husband, provider and father for her children. Such a relationship is doomed because sex without desire will poison that relationship. It leads to the classic d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:04 PM
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Too many campus movements are really feminist shaming movements, that spend their time telling men they are toxic and flawed for being men. Not exactly when men need, especially when so many are isolated and have mental health issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/23 05:07 PM
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It isn't that easy, the first problem is the power of shame. Any man who dares disagree with feminists is in for a world of very personal abuse. Feminists will attempt to destroy him, destroy his life and career. This isn't paranoid, plenty of men have been cancelled for daring to fight feminism. The second problem is men and women are fundamentally different. Men compete for sex, women do not. That dynamic in the sexual marketplace means it is simply easier for women to show solidarity with one…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/23 05:05 PM
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It is the visibility problem, my discussion with many feminists about gender issues has led me to the conclusion most women really think the majority of men are wealthy alpha guys. The sort of men who have wealth, rewarding careers and no problem getting sex. When you see the world though that distorted lens, feminist and wide female anger actually makes sense. They see a world populated by alpha guys and of course their lives are much better than the average women's. What of course they never s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/23 09:32 PM
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You're wrong, at least in Europe the fertility gap is being plugged by immigration from cultures which are conservative, religious and opposed to feminism. Feminism is doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 08:15 AM
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You provide zero evidence and zero arguments. I am curious why the idea that women have lower sex drives offends you so much? Oh and your argument that 50 Shades of Grey, a book about a 6 foot plus alpha male billionaire, somehow proves that women have the same sex drive as men; as an argument it is laughably bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:07 PM
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Because they don't. And you should keep reading. You'll find that it takes a trans fem a good long while to adjust to the different type of sexuality. I imagine it might be a significantly different experience no? The level of denial here is staggering. All evidence in the real world points to men having higher sex drivers. Look at the sex industry and the pattern of consumption of pornography. The vast majority of consumers are men, why would men be spending billions on sex if they had no unmet…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:49 AM
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The majority of men don't, the average woman has far more power in the dating market than the average man. A woman can join apps and dating sites and unless she is old, she will get hundreds of replies. If a woman has a bad partner, it is her own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:44 AM
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You're hundred percent right, the physical standards women expect from men are insane. I have tried to explain to women that many of the bodies they lust over are roid assisted but most won't accept that and think any man can look like that with hard work. Which is frankly deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:12 AM
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Women literally have 100's of dating options, so all they have to do is dump the lazy alcoholic. Women have full control over their lives, if their lives are a disaster, it is their own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:08 AM
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Utterly deluded post, I have never met a women who couldn't get sex and a relationship easily. This included women who lived with their parents, who had no social skills and who were morbidly obese. The blunt reality is, women have to put zero effort in, they live life on the easy setting. Whereas a man can put a ton of effort in, be objectively superior to women who have no problem dating. In terms of fitness, finances, education, personality, talents, achievements, the lot. Yet get absolutely …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:04 AM
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Western society is not going to exist in 100 years time because Western women aren't having enough children. Feminism will have ceased to exist and society will be probably be far more conservative and religious than it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:00 AM
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Why does it annoy feminists to point out the obvious, that on average men have higher sex drives? Just read stories from women who have transition and who are astonished how much testosterone increases their sex drive. It is deluded to claim women have the same sex drive as men,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:57 AM
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I will turn the question around, are women capable of loving a man they don't want to sleep with the same way as a man they desire? The answer of course is no. Sex is how women are intimate with men, not just physically but emotionally. As someone who has had multiple close friendships with women, the sort of friendships were we would hang out one on one, it is ultimately an unsatisfactory relationship. It isn't just the physical boundary, there are other boundaries. Things a women will share wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:54 AM
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I am probably on the spectrum, I haven't got great people skills and yet my ability to detect when a women is dating an arsehole is 100% spot on. I know right from the beginning whether a guy is going to be a gaslighter, an absuer or a cheat. Now I find it highly unlikely that women, who supposedly have superior social skills can't spot an arsehole just as effectively as I can. My point is, women end up with bad men because they like toxic men. So the advice to avoid toxic men is pretty simple, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:47 AM
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Yet you can't stop replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 03:21 PM
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Struck a nerve have I?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 11:17 PM
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I am not your bro either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:19 PM
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For a start I am not your "dude" and second you haven't answered my question. Are you OK with sex for causal fun or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:40 AM
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Andrew Tate is a scam artists, his methods aren't going to work for low value guys. However he is going to beat leftie progressive types, who call every man who asks for help and sympathy toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:02 PM
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It is a blatant lie women tell. I shared a flat at uni with a woman who gave me this long speech about how she was very selective about who she would sleep with and was only interested in a long term relationship. OK fair enough, it is a legitimate position to hold. The same woman then fucked a guy she met at a club in the back of his van, she didn't even get the guys name. I realised all the stuff she said before was bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:49 PM
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Nope it is gibberish.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:43 PM
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Bit rich coming from someone who has offered zero content and can't use the quote function properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:24 PM
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Could you translate that into English please?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:23 PM
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The truth is, feminism is doomed. It leads to ageing childless societies, which die off and feminists can't fix the problem because most wont admit it even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:53 PM
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What a load of s**t. That doesn't describe my parents or the parents of many other men who struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:52 PM
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Another clueless post. How is my babyboomer father, who dated in an era before toxic feminism meant to give me advice? His advice is useless because of toxic world created by feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:50 PM
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That is the problem with leftwing dating advice, it is based on propaganda about how the left wants you to see women, instead of how they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:48 PM
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If by empathy you mean being rich and good looking, you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:46 PM
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As you can see I have had it with women placing themselves on a pedestal and acting holier than thou. As you say, plenty of women exploit their sexuality with zero judgment. Sex is only wrong if men are interested in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:46 PM
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Because at the end of the day, you are still responsible for being a good person who treats people well, and pursuing your life to manipulating women to squeeze out sex will lead to a world with more hurt, including hurt to yourself. Not that you shouldn’t pursue advice to better yourself and make yourself a more appealing prospective partner, but if you’re not going to use that with the purpose of finding a meaningful connection, that makes you kind of a scumbag. It’s understandable why men wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:44 PM
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Till the sting in the tail comes when women hit middle and old age. Their sexual power doesn't last forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:38 PM
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Treating them like human beings would be start. Not treating them like creeps for having normal sex drives would be a huge improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:36 PM
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How would you possibly know? What men want is a stake in society. They want a sex and then a family life. Increasingly when they try to pursue that, a minority are told they are toxic and creeps. They are rejected by women precisely because not all men can be an alpha guy. Women have created this toxic situation, not men but because since you live life on the easy setting, it isn't something you will ever understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:33 PM
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What, you mean the standard feminist/women response of calling man toxic is not a good way of getting men onside? Well blow men down, I am shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:29 PM
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Frankly I have had with any woman who complains about dating. Women have it easy, they literally have 100's of options to choose from. If it goes wrong for them, it is because they are picking the wrong men and that is 100% their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:26 PM
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Men are caught in a cache 22. If they are straight and honest about wanting sex, they are creep shamed. If they try to get to know a woman first, they are told they are abusing a friendship and are creep shamed. Since men can't win either way, the best option is to simply ignore what women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:22 PM
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Doesn't work for several reasons. The first being, women's financial expectations in the dating marketplace are as deluded as everything else they want. She might bring minimum wage or unemployment to the table but she will still expect a wealthy guy with a 6 figure salary. In the UK a man has the additional problem of trying to compete against the benefits system. Poorer women know how to play the system, so they aren't going to pick a beta provider over the bad boy who turns them on. Not when …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:19 PM
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Advice from women is useless because women find it impossible to be honest with themselves. No women wants to admit their relationship is based on shallow criteria like how tall a guy is or how handsome he is. So when they give advice it is based on the woman they want to be, not the one they actually are. The reality is, multiple women have told me they fell for their boyfriend at first sight. Normally based on how far from the ground his head happens to be and the size of his arms. They will c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:18 PM
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The power of shaming is too tempting for the left. Having a real political debate is difficult, it forces you to think about your positions and justify them. It is much easier to deploy terms like sexist and misogynist and shut people down. The danger with that, is such words lose their power. You see this with rise of populists and the far right in Europe. People with nuanced and moderate positions on issues such immigration were repeatedly told they were racist by the left and eventually they …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/23 09:27 AM
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Note better sex for women, not men. Her argument is socialism means women are less economically dependent on men but that isn't to the benefit of men. Experience in the West tells us, that the more economically powerful women become, the more insane their demands in the sexual marketplace become. Every woman chasing after the same 6'4" guy on Tinder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/23 05:30 PM
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Mate teachers in the UK struggle to get their classes to shut the f**k up and stop throwing things at them. Political indoctrination is several levels above what they are capable of.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/23 09:37 PM
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I don't think you have a realistic view of British schools or overworked public sector teachers. To be blunt, the idea they have time to indoctrinate anybody is pretty laughable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/23 03:19 PM
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In the UK the answer is yes, as shown by Prevent. Prevent was a program originally established to deal with extremism, mainly Islamic extremism, by targeting kids at risk of radicalisation. Now to be honest there has always been something a bit sinister about the whole idea. It has good intentions but it is skirting very close to thought police territory. Alas the educational and public sector establishment were not very comfortable with that idea. So it has been retooled to mainly target incels…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/23 09:23 PM
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Feminism in the UK has basically become the old girls network. A way for privately educated rich women to get cushy jobs in politics and the media. While pushing their own interests, hence their obsession with elite 1% jobs. Modern UK feminists have little connection to anything outside their elitist bubble and frankly struggle to communicate with ordinary people. Which is hardly a shock, most have never had a real job or spent a day in the real world. Alas they are fairly typical of much of the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/23 09:15 PM
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Oh dear, another person who doesn't understand biology. Not everyone is built the same, not everyone can bulk up without roids. Me, I would make an excellent marathon runner. I suspect I could outlast many of our gymbros in an endurance event but I aint built to be a bodybuilder.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:46 PM
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At 6'1" and 220 lbs you are way above average. The average height for an American, which I suspect you are, is 5'9".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:35 PM
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The problem with that philosophy is the gym guys don't admit a dirty truth. Allot of them achieve their goals using roids and other chemical assistance. Sure some men can can jacked with a good diet, exercise and a lifting program but that is far from true of every guy. Take myself, I did intense lifting, combine with a controlled diet and cardio because I was challenge to see how fit I could get. Sure I ended up toned, I ended up allot fitter and you could see some of that in a mirror but I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:37 PM
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You're wasting you time, women are in heavy denial mode. The reality is, women have all the power in the dating world and end up with toxic men because they are the men they want. Alas no women will ever admit that to themselves, even feminists. They may go on about power and empowerment but most women want neither. Being empowered means taking responsibility for the your bad choices and their consequences. Women would rather claim that all men are toxic and they have no choice other than to dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:31 PM
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Laughable solution. The problem for the average man, let alone the below average guys, is they can put out 100's of messages and get zero responses. So with your app a guy could be waiting a year before a single woman gives him the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:28 PM
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That is true but it is what it is. Women don't want to admit that they are shallow and they don't want to admit that they are largely responsible for the toxic relationships they end up in. There is no point telling women this obvious truth because they are in denial mode. They want to believe the lie that all men are toxic and therefore their disastrous love life isn't their fault. Basic maths shows that they are wrong. If you have hundreds of options online and in real life. What are the odds …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:45 PM
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Which proves you're not listening. The problem is with women not men. Women choose toxic men and then get outraged when they don't change. The solution is for them not to choose toxic men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:35 AM
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What is the point? Women refuse to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:59 PM
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The reality, which women and feminists refuse to face, is the backbone of society is still the work done by men. Society falls apart without men, so it is frankly ridiculous to claim men are useless, as some here have attempted to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:58 PM
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Garbage in, garbage out. True of most IT systems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/23 08:50 AM
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The stats say that women are the leeches because most societal vital jobs are done by men. If you're not leech, tell us what vital job you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:38 AM
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You don't live in a place I like to call reality, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:37 AM
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That is a load of meaningless woo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:36 AM
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Laughable bulls**t. If the leeches you so despised stopped working, society collapses. If women all stopped working, it would be inconvenient but the world carries on. After decades of feminism, the most dangerous, vital and unpleasant jobs are still done by men. When you look at the jobs women do, they are still basically the ones they did in the 1950's. The fact you think that men, the backbone of Western economies, are leeches. Says to me you are a bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:35 AM
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Can't speak for the US but UK stats say you are wrong. During the bankers crash the government stat agency found a strange statistical quirk. Men were twice as likely as women to have moved back in with their family as adults. When they looked into why it was happening, it turned out the difference was unemployed women were much more likely to have a partner supporting them. Wealth matters when it comes to dating for men, in a way it doesn't for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:30 AM
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The stats say you are wrong, decade by decade it is getting harder for large numbers of men to date. Neither does getting the girl single success. I suggest you look at forums devoted to dead bedrooms in marriage and relationships. The majority making such complaints are men. Discovering that their partners viewed them as little more than breadwinners and sperm donors. Never finding them sexually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:26 AM
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On this sub and in mainstream society in general, there is this perception of, "men are going to be shitty no matter who I date or lower my standards for, so better to be miserable in a relationship with a hot/rich guy than miserable in a relationship with an average guy. And if I can't find that (sufficiently) hot/rich guy then I'm happy staying single." Do the women who agree this narrative understand what a glowing endorsement of RedPill/Blackpill this is? Yes but in reality that is an excuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:19 AM
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So you're saying that the secret to attracting a partner is to be pedantic grammar bully?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:34 PM
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The problem with that advice is the punishment from women for men who f**k up approaches is brutal. A guy on the spectrum misreads a social queue and then f**ks up an approach. He could face being sack at work, thrown out of college or being destroyed online. Too many women abuse their dating privilege, which makes it very difficult for men on the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:39 AM
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Laughable , the standard female attempt to always claim victim status. The idea that aspie men, left to rot alone, don't have it harder than women in a similar situation; who can find relationships easily, is clearly non-sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:36 AM
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Women here have I asked me how to spot an arsehole and avoid toxic relationships. The answer is in this thread. If you only go with guys with charm and great sales skills, is it really a surprise you keep getting one toxic man after another? Do you trust the charming used car salesman to sell you a decent car instead of wreck? of course not, most people are rightly suspicious in that situation. Yet women base their entire dating lives on a dodgy initial sales pitch, while dismissing men who woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:34 AM
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It is made up non-sense from feminists to justify complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:28 AM
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Sorry but women can't have it both ways. You can't demand equality in the workplace and then whine because you can't find a male breadwinner, who earns more than you to support you. Why are the sexist dated expectations of women in the dating marketplace never challenged?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:27 PM
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My problem with women's complaints, is they never take responsibility for their own bad dating choices. Your boyfriend is a cheat, gaslighter, terrible in bed, doesn't respect you, is a big child or one of the many many many complaints we hear? Well isn't that on you? An average woman could go on any app or dating site and get 100's of matches. Is she seriously saying all of them are bad? Such an argument is clearly non-sense when she has so many options. The reality is, women have all the power…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:59 AM
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You're right, feminist complain about the patriarchy and how it hurts men just as much as women but fail to acknowledge that women are just as responsible for enforcing gender norms as men, if not more so. Most heterosexual men want to have a sex life, so they are going to care about what women want and desire. Women desire men who fall into the old fashioned definition of what a man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:43 AM
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The problem with that, is women sometimes fake these signals. A good example was a girl I knew at uni, who was suddenly extremely flirty and interested me. I was frankly baffled by what was going on, till she causally asked to look at my homework. Smelling a rat, I lied and said I hadn't done it. It was like flicking a switch, she immediately lost interest and headed off to some other guy. This girl spent the rest of the year using her sex appeal to leech off one sucker after another. My point i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/23 04:15 PM
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I was a member of a left wing political group at uni and the women there were complaining about harassment and inappropriate approaches from me. So I asked them what was the correct time, location and way to approach a women? They couldn't give me an answer, so I asked a series of questions. Was it Ok to approach a women at work or at uni? No they was creepy and not allowed. How about at the gym, shops and the street? Creepy not allowed. How about at bar or club? No creepy not allowed. At which …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/23 04:10 PM
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Really, so by your logic a black person who enters the neighbourhood of racist white people is doing something wrong because he makes the racists uncomfortable? Surely it is the responsibility of the bigot to change their behaviour. Women in this case, not the people they bigoted against?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:14 PM
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Here is the list for unattractive men: 1)Politely saying hello. 2)breathing 3)Existing in the same universe as the women These rules of course don't apply if said women needs tech support, free tuition, free drinks, money, free counselling or any other service she needs he can provide. Remember that the instant she has what she wants, the unattractive man becomes a creep again and should maintain a minimum 5 mile distance from said women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:12 PM
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No that is you trying to justify double standards. When i was at uni I asked some women at a leftwing political society about this. They said it was always creepy if a guy hit on them in a shop. I then asked if they had ever gone out with a guy who had done that and a couple of them admitted they had. I am sorry but creep is just a shaming word used by women to condemn unattractive men who have done nothing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:07 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxuUkYiaUc8 SNL sketch sexual harassment and you. Which neatly skewers women's non-sense complaints about creepy behaviour. Creep just means a low status guy daring to breath oxygen within five miles her. When she doesn't need him for tech support, money or an ego boost. I remember a girl at uni talking about the fact she couldn't go to a shop anymore because one of the checkout staff was creepy to her. I asked what had happened and eventually got the story out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:03 PM
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What you think men are immortal? Men have a physical prime just like women but unlike women the average guy can't go onto apps and dating sites and get 100's of matches. Sure your years of dating privilege are finite but that is what being mortal is about, get over it. The reality is, every women here could get a relationship if she had realistic expectations and standards. The alternative is to burn through your peak years, chasing the top 20% of men who will never commit to you. Your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:56 PM
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Women are suppose to be the ones of the people skills. It isn't difficult to spot an arsehole, most men aren't that good at hiding their true nature. If I can do it as someone who is probably on the spectrum, I find it astonishing women struggle with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:34 PM
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However the number who would be begging me to turn their sex appeal back on after a month wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:28 PM
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It isn't difficult, put it this way, I can pretty much tell instantly when a women I know is dating a toxic man. They aren't hard to spot and I suspect you can do it as well. The problem is, like most women, you're more than likely turned on by toxic men and bad boys. So you ignore that voice telling you he is bad news and convince yourself you can change him. At which point he cheats on you, abuses you or pumps you and dumps you. You and other women in the same situation come here and claim all…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:27 PM
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The problem with women having standards, is there aren't enough alphas in the world for them. Besides which, they never ask what they bring to the table? Why should some alpha guy, who can get one woman after another give all that up for them? For example I remember a woman on a site like this, who thought she deserve a fit 6 foot plus guy with enough disposable wealth to support her. When she was north of 40, living with her parents and unemployed. Anyone who tried to point out she was deluded …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:55 AM
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At the point you have gone full white knight riding to her rescue. Maybe it will work, best of luck to you but I think you're likely to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:51 AM
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Sorry but that is non-sense. Men have fewer opportunities, not better opportunities. Being a man in the dating marketplace is like applying for a job. You send in 100's of applications merely to get an interview, let alone the job. You don't have any power and often apply for things because that is the best you can get. Women are more like the employers, weeding though those 100's of applicants and then conducting the interviews. Sure there are a ton of lousy applicants, lies on CVs and you may …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:50 AM
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The problem is too many are in denial about the reality of human existence. Feminists are very anti-science, in fact when you look at their actions on university campuses, they are anti-reason and rationality full stop. For a feminist personal experience, her own narrative and feelings are everything. To disagree with that is to mansplain, be toxic, create a hostile environment. The problem with all that, is mother nature doesn't care about a feminists feelings. The laws of nature are what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:20 AM
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You don't want to face reality that you have all the power in the dating world and if things are going wrong it is down to you. You can maintain that delusion, don't try and then bitterly regret it when you get old and nobody wants you. Are you get embrace the privileged place you have in the dating marketplace and get that relationship you claim to want. It is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:08 AM
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Nah that is just American Dream bulls**t. Most Americans who improve themselves don't become rich and most men who do don't get the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:05 AM
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From what I have seen she isn't listening, she is rejecting what men here are saying. Quality white knighting by the way, don't think it will work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:04 AM
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1-3 matches a week is something most men could only dream. You are incredibly privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:02 AM
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So if I told you that I could eliminate all those risks but the price would be you be sexually invisible to men? Would you pay it? Now lets be clear what I mean, it won't just mean men don't hit on you, it will mean men ignore you or even act like you are doing something creepy/wrong if you interact with them. Would you pay that price?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:58 AM
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You haven't got a f**king clue have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:55 AM
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We are not listening because you are unable to face reality. Allot men face 100% rejection in the dating marketplace, even an average guy will struggle horribly. It is laughable to claim you have it harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:54 AM
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Women have it much easier, they date on the easy setting. Even a below average woman can get 100's of hits on dating sites and apps. All she has to do is filter out the bad guys and pick a decent one. That isn't difficult, the problem is there is a divide between the man who uses a women for a one night stand and the one interested in a long term relationship. An average woman can bang a top 20% guy but they can't date or marry that guy. That is what causes all the bitterness and resentment. Hoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:52 AM
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It is much simpler than that, it is pure jealously. Biology gives women massive sexual power in their youth because men are biologically programmed to desire young fertile women. The kick in the teeth, is a women's value in the dating marketplace declines rapidly as she ages. This causes resentment and bitterness, which is compounded by the lie feminism tells them. That they should get more desirable as they age, that men should want them for their maturity and career success. Alass sex is drive…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:49 AM
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I am going to admit that I want reward for putting in the work, including women noticing me. Alas it is a waste of time for a 5' 6" guy like me. For a start you are limited by your natural gifts. All the dance lessons in the world couldn't compensate for my natural lack of rhythm. Neither am I going to develop standup comic level of timing and humour, however hard I try. Sure I worked out, actually got pretty fit but it got me nowhere when it came to women. Even if my height wasn't an issue, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:45 AM
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You're right, I remember bumping into a cute girl at the library, literally bumping into her. If it had been a Hollywood film it would have been the perfect meet cute. We hit it off, discussing the book she was borrowing, till this tramp saddled up to her. Turns out this guy, who looked like he had just climbed out of a skip, was her boyfriend. Hey but maybe made up for his appearance by his charm and wit? Nope, he had all the charisma of a rock, the dullest man in the world. It won't surprise y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:40 AM
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Most people can't self motivate like that, they need to actually get a reward for all that effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:36 AM
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This is one of the hardest things for leftwing politics to deal with because at its heart leftwing politics is about dealing with inequality and unfairness. That is why the left advocates wealth taxes, strong unions, regulations on working conditions and housing. Yet when it comes to the male experience of the world of dating and discrimination against men based on looks and height, the left is in complete denial. For the simple reason, they haven't got a clue what to do about that kind of inequ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/23 08:18 AM
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I think it is due to a fundamental difference between men and women. Men have to compete to get the attention of women, whereas women get the attention of men by default. That means it is much easier for women to show solidarity with each other than men. When a man walks into a room he wants to be funnier, more interesting and more successful than every other guy in the room. It is means it is very hard for men to work to achieve men's rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/23 08:11 AM
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Of course they don't because they aren't willing to put in the hours and earn those jobs. Neither are they willing to do the hard and challenging jobs. What women want is to work fewer hours, do easier jobs and still be promoted and paid the same as men.
/r/AntiFeminists22/03/23 06:26 PM
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At the moment there is outrage in the UK because the government wants to make single mothers work. Feminists are very angry about this, which shows the truth about feminism and single motherhood. It isn't about empowerment, women going their own way. It is about making taxpaying men the breadwinner and fathers of last resort via the benefit system. If women are too immature to pick men who will stay for the long haul and pick unreliable badboys. Why should I have to bail them out?
/r/AntiFeminists22/03/23 06:24 PM
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I have little time for Andrew Tate, the guy is trying to exploit male sexual poverty and is in it for himself. I have no doubt he would become a feminists if he though it would further his media career. Saying that, the denial by feminists of the reality of female desire is ridiculous. If you listen to feminists you would either believe that all men are abusers or that women are somehow tricked into those relationships. The reality of course, is women are attracted to dominant men. Even if those…
/r/AntiFeminists05/03/23 07:23 PM
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It pointless trying to have a rational debate with feminists about the law around rape and sexual assault. For years feminists claimed the conviction rate in the UK was as low as 1-3%. The trouble with that, is it was a lie. It is not even a hard lie to expose, the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) publishes the actual number on their website and in an average year the conviction rate for rape is between 50-60%. The number quoted by feminists is the attrition rate, not the conviction rate. The att…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/23 04:30 PM
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I can only speak from the perspective of the UK but I think what I am about to write applies to the left in other Western countries. The fundamental problem was leftwing politics began to be dominated by a leftwing aristocracy. The sons and daughters of leftwing academics, journalists, politicians and trade unionists followed in their parents footsteps. Fair enough but there was a problem, this new generation of Guardian journalists and Labour politicians had never had a working class job. Most …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 10:40 PM
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Immigration only works as a long term solution if you import conservative communities that refuse to integrate. For example, it is helping hold up the birthrate in the UK but that is only happening because you have communities that completely reject feminism and much of the rest of the West. My point is, immigration maybe a solution to our population problems but only because it is a backdoor way of getting rid of feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 07:38 AM
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You're right, the problem with feminism is it acts as if men are the barrier to change. Whereas in reality the barrier is the preference of the majority of women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 07:32 AM
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That is the point made by Houellebecq in his early books. The sexual revolution was really the introduction of free market ideas into the sexual marketplace and like all free markets, it creates extremes of sexual wealth and poverty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 02:25 PM
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Which won't work because we have those policies in Europe and we have the same problems for men. If you got Bernie, you will never be as leftwing as the Nordic countries, for example. Therefore if the problem isn't merely economics, there must be another explanation, a change in society. So those criticising feminism aren't "ranting", they are in fact making a valid point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 02:23 PM
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The problem is the only way they can understand is to listen to what men have to say and that isn't what feminists/womensplainers do. Even if they listen, what they then do is explain why men are wrong based on, well, nothing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 02:18 PM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20230226011523/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/25/young-men-relationships-study-week-in-patriarchy Will this do?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 01:16 AM
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In Britain we have a very simple solution, we don't let the public have guns. This is a very good thing because a large percent of the public are morons. I wouldn't trust most of them with a water pistol, let alone a lethal weapon. It has the added advantage that when the police have pulled me over in my car, I haven't been shot once. I know that must must be astonishing to the average American but it is true. Sure people kill people but they find it much harder to do if they can't get a gun.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/23 09:52 AM
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The problem for me, with all these complaints, is what is never factored in is the sort of partner women are looking for. If they choose more patriarchal, for want of a better word, career orientated men. They can hardly complain that such men have little interest in childcare and housework. There is evidence that this is a factor. During the bankers recession the UK government found that twice as many adult men moved back in with family compared to adult women. When they looked into the differe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 04:15 PM
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The fundamental problem is they don't listen. For feminists men's issues don't really exist and if they are dragged kicking and screaming into acknowledging them, they then use the old undeserving poor argument. Dismissing lonely or poor men as somehow toxic and deserving their fate. Why should I have anything to do with a movement that refuses to listen to me and dismisses me as toxic?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 04:10 PM
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Feminism stopped being a rational movement decades ago. It is futile to debate or argue with a feminist because rational thinking and evidence went out of the window with that lot decades ago. The best way to view modern feminism is as a dangerous irrational cult, which has somehow manage to worm its way into the mainstream.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/23 06:07 PM
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How are men meant to fight the "patriarchy"? One of the biggest influences on male behaviour is sex and dating. Most men want sex lives and relationships, so women have a big influence on their behaviour. This is obvious. So it is no good telling men the "patriarchy" hurts them and they should break free of gender norms. If women reject men who break free of the "patriarchy".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/23 05:57 PM
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The problem with your post is it ignores biology. As a rule I look at what people do, not what they say. Feminists can say gender is a social construct until they are blue in the face but when it comes to dating they still prefer men who fit into traditional gender norms. My point is this, if patriarchy exists, it is enforced by the actions of women, just as much as those of men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 04:52 PM
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On one level I find the feminist civil war hilarious. I can remember when the feminists who are being cancelled by younger feminists, were the ones leading the witchhunts to destroy people. More importantly the feminist trans implosion shows the danger of joining the loony feminist movement. However loony you are, there will be someone who is even more nuts than you, who will cancel you eventually.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 04:48 PM
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The myth comes from standard feminist manipulation of stats and statistics. Take rape in the UK, feminists will only count it as a false allegation if there has been a successful prosecution for perverting the course of justice. Now this is a tiny percentage of cases but that is for a very good reason. The Crown Prosecution Service has to prove a false allegation beyond reasonable doubt to get a conviction. That is a very high bar and they are also, rightly, reluctant to prosecution for fear of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/23 09:13 AM
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The answer is no, violence just isn't in my nature and I can't imagine that makes me unique.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/23 09:07 AM
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The problem with this is it is a cache 22. When a man in sexual poverty posts on a mainstream or feminist forum they don't get compassion, they get abuse. They best they can expect is the useless advice to embrace feminism and stop being toxic. So they get driven to the kind of forums you describe because there is no safe space for incels to discuss their problems without abuse. Which of course gives people like yourself the perfect excuse to dismiss their issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/23 09:05 AM
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The reason incel has become an insult, is incels don't fit into the feminist narrative. The narrative says men are a privileged and powerful group. Who use that power to oppress women in education, in work and sexually. The existence of incels blows that world view to pieces. For incel men to exist, women have to have power in the sexual marketplace and once feminists accept that sometimes the power dynamic is reversed, much of feminism falls to pieces. So to make incel men fit they have to pret…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/23 10:31 AM
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The problem is, that no-one ever discuses the downsides of the social and sexual revolution of the 60's. The church was judgemental, it sucked to be gay, to be a women having sex outside marriage or a single mother. So you're right, breaking the power of the church is good. The downside was the church didn't care about how old you were, how good looking you were, whether you had sex appeal. In that respect everyone was welcome and that is what we have lost since the 60's. Progressives act as if …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/23 10:23 AM
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Mate, you need to face reality. You aint a rule maker, you're a game player. You have to play game as it is, you can't change it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/23 10:19 AM
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Why haven't got the invite to your local patriarchy meeting? Were we all conspire to hold women back? Be careful playing the lizard people at Pool when you go, delightful chaps but they will have the shirt off your back. Of course to throw the ever vigilant feminists off, many of our group have agreed to work terrible jobs, be unemployed and have no sex lives. They could of course all be millionaires with their own harems, if they wished but as the lizard people say, that would be a dead give aw…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/23 05:29 PM
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Sorry I don't agree. Plenty of incel men have tried to reach out to the mainstream or even feminists. I once posted on a feminist forum about my dating issues, very politely, not using anything that could possibly trigger them. The amount of abuse I got from them was actually frightening. There was no interest in listening to what I had to say or my problems. This was way before attacks by mentally ill incels, so that wasn't the reason I got all that abuse. Sadly I have found there is a real hat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/23 11:03 AM
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The problem is it is a society level issue. Houellebecq, one of my favourite writers on this topic, put it like this. If you want to fit in with youth culture, you have a certain look, level of cool or something else you bring to the party. If you want to fix in an accountancy firm, you just need a decent suit. His point is, as a result of the sexual and social revolution of the 60's, community and shared spaces have broken down. We have gone from the church, were everyone is welcome, to the soc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/23 10:57 AM
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Which achieves what exactly? There are hundreds of men willing to give women attention, so your actions make no difference. If you decide not to compete with other men for women, they won't care. Your actions are pointless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/23 10:52 AM
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What does that even mean? Sorry it sounds like a load of new age woo to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/23 07:55 AM
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True, none of those apps release data about their user demographics. There was one for men looking for affairs years ago. The ads implied it was full of lonely wives looking for a bit of fun on the side. Then the user stats leaked and it turn out it was 90% men. I would be amazed if any other app or dating site is different.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/23 07:34 PM
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The problem can be fixed if Men don't let their sex drive dictate their behaviour, it requires discipline but its possible. So you think you can succeed were the likes of the Catholic church, with their threats of external damnation failed? Get men to supress their sex drives. All I can say, is good luck with that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/23 07:30 PM
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Exactly, that is what annoys me. The majority of incel men are not dangerous extremists, hell most have little time for all that pill stuff. They are just lonely men, who have crap lives and want to be listened to. Instead of simply being dismissed, which is what the modern left and feminists do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/23 10:55 AM
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I agree with that but I am afraid that competition is a result of biology, so I don't think you can do anything about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/23 09:57 AM
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It is easier for women to show solidarity with each other because most are not in competition with each other to the same extent men are. Women, on average, have lower sex drives than men and desire sex less. The net result of that, is it is relativity easy for most women to get a sex life and find a partner. They aren't in competition with other women for these things, the majority of the time. It is very different for men, something most men here are well aware of. A man spends his life compet…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/23 09:56 AM
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You're right, all the left offer lonely and vulnerable men is abuse. They tell them they are misogynists and deserve their fate. That if they would just embrace feminism and become non-toxic, women would desire them. When they do that and find it doesn't work and question what the left is telling them, they are told that they are are still toxic and sexist and to go away. The left fundamentally can't deal with the concept under-privileged men or the idea that sexual and dating power dynamics can…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/23 09:44 AM
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Lets be clear Tate is a scam artist. He tells incel men the lie that if we just follow his advice, we too can have our own harem. In some ways it is laughable that anyone falls for his non-sense but you have to remember that incel men are a vulnerable group. I know that goes against the grain that all incel men are violent terrorists but the reality is 99% of incel men are harmless and are more likely to be the ones who are exploited and victims of con artists, than criminals. As for prevent, th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/23 09:39 AM
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Yes but I assuming that the people I am debating with are intelligent adults. For example if I am talking about the sexual dynamic between men and women, it is obvious I am talking about straight men and not gay men. It patronising to point that out to the reader and frankly insulting to their intelligence. You are asking people to write in an incredibly clumsy way and a way that is completely unnecessary because any reasonable person understands that when a group is being discussed there are al…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/23 07:53 AM
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Actually I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you were debating as a grownup and not using childish sarcasm. Sadly it turns out I was showing you too much respect and you are incapable of taking part in grownup respectful discussion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/23 07:47 AM
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You're right, that is another important issue. I remember an article, in the Guardian of all places, where stay at home dad's talked about their experiences. More than one of them of had had their partner leave them. It turn our that their wives preferred a guy at work over their stay at home husband. No earnings, plus baby vomit wasn't very attractive, as you say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/23 07:44 AM
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To me the problem is feminist act if the behaviour of women is irrelevant in determining how men behave. Most men want to have a sex life, they want to find a partner. If women choose the very men who have the traits they claim are "toxic", over more feminist men. Then it becomes very difficult for men to change their behaviour. I have an example, after the 2008 crash a lot of adults moved back in with their parents. When the UK government researched this, they were surprised men outnumbered wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/23 09:31 PM
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Any discussion that doesn't allow generalisations, when talking about large groups of people, is hopeless. There will always be exceptions to any generalisation but to list them all risks such a debate getting completely bogged down. In this case you actually taking an ideological position in the debate between nature and nurture. Feminists, at least when it is convenient for them, fall squarely on the nurture side of that debate. There claim there are no biological differences, at least when it…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/23 09:19 PM
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Yes they are, I have had posts removed. Though unlike you I don't have any delusions about anything posted here being "valuable". This is just reddit , it aint going to change the world. Virtually nobody reads these posts and fewer bother to vote. Which makes the rule even more ridiculous. Censoring speech that has so little influence is completely pointless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/23 09:08 PM
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Ah yes the standard justification for censorship. It isn't that you're afraid of debate or people who disagree with you, you just dislike hate speech. Of course since you have the power to define what is and is not hate speech, you can pretty much censor anything you like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/23 11:00 PM
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Which is a ludicrous rule and a complete denial of the reality of biological sex difference. Alas those in charge of forums are so terrified of feminists, they have abolished free speech.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/23 10:22 PM
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This might come cross as hostile but the Psychology of Women Quarterly, really? That sounds like a micky mouse academic journal if I ever heard one. Before people say that is just prejudice, there is plenty of evidence that Psychology is a woo subject, with very poor peer review: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/27/study-delivers-bleak-verdict-on-validity-of-psychology-experiment-results Thousands of Psychology papers are full of basic stat and maths errors: https://www.vox.com/scien…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/23 06:58 PM
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I suspect I won't be allowed to say this here but here goes. The reason you can't change traditional masculinity, is it is enforced by women just as much as men. Women complain that men are loud and dominate meetings/the room/any space they are in. Yet any man who doesn't do that is ignored by women, who expect men to be the pro-active ones in the dating market. Women complain that men won't take responsibility in the home and for childcare, too focussed on work. Yet most won't date men who earn…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/23 05:04 PM
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All I am asking you to do is express you ideas in clear, jargon free English. If there is substance behind what you are saying and you truly understand what you are talking about, that shouldn't be a problem. Your hostility suggests that you can't do that because behind the jargon there is nothing, the Emperor truly has no clothes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/23 04:57 PM
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Any man who becomes a feminist is a fool. Modern feminism is a bigoted hate movement which despise men and is best avoided.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/23 10:48 PM
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Well that is all as clear as mud. What sexism and racism does the OP want us to fight? Can they use clear English to express their ideas and get rid of the academic jargon?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/23 10:46 PM
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When I was young a great deal of pressure, that is how young men tend to be judged and there is a great deal of shame in being the guy who can't succeed. Now? Not so much, many men lose their looks when they age and there is a big taboo in chasing younger women that most men desire. Combine with the fact the sex lives of most men turn to s**t as they age. Even if they are lucky enough to have a wife who hasn't let herself go and is still attractive, there is no guarantee they will actually have …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/23 05:10 PM
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Sigh it is not about coming up with a solution, it is about acknowledging the problem. The left is suppose to be progressive, they are suppose to care about people's mental health and avoid victim blaming. Yet when it comes to male sexual poverty, they throw that out of the window. They tell potentially vulnerable men that women are rejecting them because they are toxic bigots. The left refuse to acknowledge that men can be rejected for being on the spectrum, ugly, poor or short. Instead the so …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/23 08:25 PM
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The problem is the left likes to see itself as tolerant when it really isn't. We have a progressive society in which racism, homophobia and other forms of discrimination are rejected, which is great. So what is the issue? Well the problem is the left's version of tolerance basically amounts to not calling people names. For example, the elderly are more isolated than they have ever been, vast numbers have few social contacts and end up dying alone. A progressive would never call an elderly person…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/23 09:35 AM
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Women hater is an label imposed on incels because they are a problem for feminist. If the feminist world view, that men are universally privileged was real, then incels shouldn't exist. So the same way capitalists use to dismiss the poor and unemployed as the undeserving poor. Feminists dismiss incels as morally bankrupt and therefore bringing their fate upon on themselves. Incels don't benefit from male privilege because of their toxicity. Alas like much of feminism this contradicts their own p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/23 09:26 AM
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What does entitled to sex even mean? That men have a sex drive? Isn't that true of the vast majority of men? Are you seriously argument that men who do get laid don't feel any entitlement to sex? Why isn't this entitlement insult thrown at feminists and women? There is a huge part of feminism which demands women should be all be seen as attractive regardless of how they look. BBW and the body positive movement? Isn't just women feeling they are entitled to attention?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/23 09:18 AM
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Feminism in academia represents the worse of the post modern movement. In which lived experience trumps evidence and all narratives are equally valid. They have moved out of Gender Studies, a laughable subject that has appalling academic standards, to poison the rest of academia. Though fortunately they have failed when it comes to the hard sciences. Feminists really hate the sciences because most scientific discoveries were made by men and science keeps undermining their claims. So they went on…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/23 10:03 PM
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By the time they realise feminism is bigoted it is too late. I read the leftwing press in Britain and it is full of feminists. Here is the thing, the group that use to try and cancel and destroy the lives of others are now being cancelled and having their own lives destroyed by younger feminists. Each wave of feminism gets crazier and more extreme than the last and they tend to turn on the older feminists from the last wave. Of course by the time older feminists realise how extreme, toxic and da…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/23 09:54 PM
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The big problem is incel=terrorist, which is one of the more absurd moral panics I have ever seen. If the mainstream claims about that were true, we would be truly fucked. The number of men without sex lives, who want them, must conservatively number in 100's of thousands across the Western world. in reality the number is probably in the millions. If incels were really as dangerous as the moral panic claims, we would be seeing epic levels of violence. In reality we have seen a few tragic events,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/23 09:49 PM
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Yes increasingly women are held up as the perfect model to follow, while male traits are portrayed as toxic. The cry goes up, why won't these flawed men just act more like perfect women? My response to that is to look at the tech industry. Computers are the great revolutionary product of our age, the drivers of economic growth. The home computer revolution of the 70's was dominated by men, young men in general, building mail order computer kits. Women were no-where in this. As but that was sexis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/23 10:37 PM
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Replace the world men with "black men" and you see the problem. It would rightly be seen as racist to hold all black responsible for misbehaviour of a minority of black men. So why is it anymore acceptable when you take race out of the equation and just make it about gender?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/23 11:03 AM
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The problem is feminism is all one way. I was in a bookshop the other day looking at the vast gender studies section in the bookshop. Not one book aimed at men or critical of feminism. It was basically the gender propaganda section. Flicking though some of the propaganda I noticed something. A lot of the complaints in these books were very childish. They amounted to, its not fair that my instragram doesn't get the same number of likes as that of the hot 21 year old bikini model. Much of it with …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/23 10:58 AM
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Here is the problem with the whole self esteem, confidence and positive thinking advice. Imagine applying it to a boxing match. Image fighting a fighter who is two weight classes above you, has a longer reach, is faster and more skilled than you. Does anybody think that American style woo positive thinking would allow you to win that fight? Or would the result be you hitting the canvas ins 30 seconds, however much you visualised the universe giving you victory? American style positive thinking w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/23 04:54 PM
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The big problem with these videos is lonely men attract the same types that are drawn to vulnerable and easily exploitable groups. The first type is scammers, those people who sell bulls**t advice about how to get laid or pull women. PUA full into this group, with their faked videos showing how low status guys can suddenly get the girl's of their dream. The second group are people pushing dangerous and toxic ideologies. At which point every feminist is nodding, except I think that feminism is a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/23 04:46 PM
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What your selling is utter non-sense. You are either trying to push that positive thinking woo, that people almost try to push on the poor. Just think positive and everything will get better. Or you're trying make people happy and content about having crap lives. My guess, judging by your belief in such rubbish, is you're an American.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/23 05:18 PM
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Yet we are confined by are nature. Women can go on about wanting less toxic men as much as they like but the reality is their biology draws them to dangerous and toxic men like moths to a flame. Men can try not competing but the reality is, those not in the race become invisible to women. Sex is one of our most primordial drives and it undermines a lot of utopian thinking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/23 04:27 PM
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In the real world nobody cares about these weird term thrown around in university departments and on twitter. Most voters don't even know what a redfem or Terf is. The moment politicians starting using such language, is the moment they start loosing votes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 10:24 PM
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Biology 101, men compete to gain the attention of women, women only want the most successful men. You view this as toxic and it is but that is to take the very very simplistic feminist view of the world. The flipside of the toxicity is it drives men to take risks and succeed. Even after decades of man hating feminism, men are still the people who drive our society forward. That isn't because of some patriarchal oppression of women, it is because men have it harder. They have no choice but to tak…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 10:22 PM
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Whereas terms like TERF make me want to bang my head against the wall. Nobody in the real world uses such non-sense language and terms like TERFs are one of the reasons the left loses election after election. To most voters leftwingers sound like weirdo, living on a completely different planet.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 05:45 PM
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Why is it a toxic mindset? Men don't sit about talking about their emotions, when they hang together they do things. That kind of side by side male relationship led to created of the computer and than the tech industry. What have women created that compares in anyway? I am not saying their aren't downsides but the way women are portrayed as the perfect model inferior men are suppose to copy, is what I think is truly toxic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 05:43 PM
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I find the civil war among feminists hilarious. I have no dog in the trans civil war they are having but what has happened shows the dangers of being an extremist nutter. I am old enough to remember when the feminists now being driven out of the movement for trans, were the queen bees of cancel culture. Destroying the lives of men and women who dared disagree with their non-sense. So I have no sympathy with them now the shoe is on the other foot. Live by the sword die by the sword.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 10:49 AM
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Sorry I can't agree with that because I think there is an aspect of feminist shaming in your post. Feminism has a lot in common with religion and like religion it likes to use sex to shame. So when men are attracted to women they are objectifying them, when they just want sex they are exploiting them and abusing them. Yet when the reverse is happens, when women objectifying men it is empowering and to be celebrated. Men abuse women, Stella gets her groove back. The double standard stinks. Neithe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 10:45 AM
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If you are right Nordic countries, which are among the most equal Western societies, should have higher fertility rates than less equal countries like Britain and America. They don't, greater equality and greater access to childcare have made no difference. Those countries still have fertility rates well below the replacement level.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 10:35 AM
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You don't face homelessness and starvation in most Western countries, that isn't the sort of poverty that the left are fighting. They are fighting relative poverty, the poor have the basic good they need to survive. The only way to do that is to take resources and the middle class, curtailing some of their freedom. This is what happens in Nordic countries. It is also what use to happen in relation to sex. To ensure everyone had a partner, monogamy was enforce by social norms and shaming. Restric…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 10:32 AM
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As for your other point, you're right, women prefer to marry up but is a problem in a world in which feminists want pay equality. Such a world makes it impossible for a large group of men to outearn women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 03:16 PM
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I would take the claims of such dating gurus with a pinch of salt. Desperate people are like red meat to con artists and scammers. Plenty of dating gurus have been caught faking videos to promote their dubious products.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 03:15 PM
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Mr Panda, being a pedant is a very good way of loosing any argument. That holds true even if you happen to be right, it gets people's backs up. I would suggest you change your debating style.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 03:13 PM
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Sigh, you're confusing two difference things. Debating the effect of changes to societies attitudes to sex and blaming women are two very different thing. It is perfectly reasonable to discuss the possible impacts social change can have on groups in that society. To blunt, what isn't constructive is your attempts to shutdown a debate you don't like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 03:08 PM
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Historically there wasn't the pill and the sexual revolution. In world in which women needed a husband and couldn't risk pregnancy outside marriage. There would accept a man, even if he wasn't their dream guy. Those conditions have now changed, which is great for women, not so great for short/ugly/poor men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 03:06 PM
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Houellebecq's counter to that argument is that distribution of sexual resources was regulated in this past. There was a taboo about sex outside marriage and you could only marry one person. This changed with the sexual revolution and sexual freedom, which can be seen as a sexual version of free market capitalism. So the question is, how can you support absolute freedom in the sexual marketplace, which create sexual poverty. Yet demand regulation in the financial marketplace? Sure money can be tr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 03:02 PM
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The favourite term is creep.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 12:00 PM
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The problem with "virgin shaming" is there is a toxic assumption that women are rational in the sexual marketplace. That they choose men based on their moral decency and reject toxic men. One of the pieces of advice that feminists give to male virgins and incels is embrace feminism and lose the toxicity. Really? Are they seriously claiming that women base their dating choices on whether men have read the Second Sex? That women never date toxic misogynist men? The reality is, the dating and sexua…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 11:58 AM
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To be honest I didn't know who Andrew Tate was till recently, not interested in celebrity trash. The idea that he would appeal to a rational incel like myself is laughable. What I am suppose to be interested in roided up ravings of some reality TV star? Someone who claims a guy like me, who is rejected by women, can run my own harem if I just listen to his advice and presumably give him money? Why would I be taken in by such non-sense? However people in both economic poverty and sexual poverty a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 11:47 AM
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Feminists tend to come from wealthy backgrounds, at least the most high profile ones. Asserting male privilege allows such feminists to claim victim status, which is a badge of honour among the left. They are no longer privilege rich girls, who achieved their station in life due to their rich parents. Instead they are part of oppressed, fighting the brutal oppression of patriarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 11:38 AM
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The problem is feminism is an ideology, it isn't based on evidence. To see this just look at how much of feminist research has been completely discredited. You can pretty much destroy any paper produced by a Gender Studies department with high school maths. Their academic standards are a joke. Lonely men, isolated men don't fit in with feminist ideology. In the feminist world view men are privileged, economically, socially and sexually. Male social and sexual failure should not exist in their wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 11:14 AM
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I have just read the chapter on race and it is dead on. I objected to Zoe William's claim that Britain had a racist government: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/03/tories-terrible-believe-elections-downing-street-behaviour To me it was obviously an absurd claim. Boris's government is certainly corrupt and incompetent but racist? When it has the largest number of ethnic minorities in senior positions of any British government? I got exactly the type of responses that Murray outl…
/r/MensRights03/05/22 03:31 PM
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Houellebecq understood this very well, he said that the sexual revolution destroyed the capacity for love. What he meant by that was that before free love, men and women could deluded themselves that only their partner could give them orgasm. Or if the sex was bad, that was just how sex was. In the post sexual revolution world that doesn't hold true. People still get married but they are well aware that 1000's of other men and women could make them feel just like their partner. The illusion of l…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:35 AM
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It is nothing to do with porn, the problem is social media. An example of what I mean is a flatmate I had at uni, who was an earlier user of such sites. She had literally hundreds of men hanging on her every word, she could have posted her shopping list and they would have treated it like the most insightful and brilliant thing they had ever seen. Of course she never slept with a single one of those guys. Now with smartphones things are much worse for boys and men. Anytime a women wants attentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:27 AM
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