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| 3 | How to best explain my choice not to get married to friends and family who just don't get it?I usually just placate them and tell them what I have to in order to get them to leave me alone. It is all bullshit though - "dating", find the right person, "we" thinking, and working at relationships in general. I think men need the equivalent of radical feminism. That's why MGTOW - the ideas of self-ownership, and individual identity are so important for me. I never really took the red pill, though I'm a nomad so I at least looked at it. I just like those core tenants of MGTOW, and those alon… | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/10/18 07:10 PM |
| 2 | I don't experience love anymoreI'm not suicidal at all but I saw that coming. This has been the best year of my life, just not too excited about work. What upsets me is I think I've been brainwashed to live my relationships like other people's - following scripts, working together like we're part of a coalition as a couple, coupledom. I hate it. Never used to think about that stuff before. Now I've got this team work stuff stuck in my head, shaking hands, that sort of thing. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/10/18 09:17 PM |
| 1 | I don't experience love anymoreI've got the marriage scripts in my head. I'm trying to deprogram them. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/10/18 03:42 PM |
| 2 | I don't think I could enter a relationship with a woman again...giving up a chunk of a typical man's life on this earth by denying myself... We all "miss out" on something. Just enjoy everyday and don't look back or look up to what other people say you're supposed to do with your life. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/10/18 11:06 PM |
| 1 | I don't think I could enter a relationship with a woman again...I'm thinking my future is all hookups, FWB, or any type of open relationships....only problem is a lot of people adhere to the usual relationship paradigms....so they might not be into that sort of life. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/10/18 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Probably an unpopular opinion but..I just see people worship the book "No more Mr. Nice guy". Also, online various typologies of what constitute a "nice guy". I definitely find it useful when understand certain behaviors. I just don't accept agree with everything I've read (that's why I said my opinion might be unpopular). Also, I'm not a feminist or MRA. It seems I have to be one or the other or both. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/18 10:42 PM |
| 1 | What really matters in life?The emergent properties of the mind. The collective unconscious. I believe all of our inventions and ideas emerge from who we are. They aren't invented. They are discovered, they are possibilities.... Sorry, that's my armchair philosophy for you. I think love is really important too. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/05/18 08:46 PM |
| 1 | What really matters in life?I'm quite content with a regular job as long as I can pursue what I truly love in my free time. I have cousin who is a nomad, he flies back and forth between Canada and Australia. Works as construction worker when he's here, and teaches surfing when he's in Australia. It's a great life. | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/05/18 08:06 PM |
| 1 | I'm really having a hard time...I'm 35. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/05/18 07:01 PM |
| 1 | The power of the pussyAlthough I was kidding ('cause you know I'm supposed to be telling jokes all the time), you're right. The social indoctrination almost got me, but then it seems I'm always acting in the way people expect me to. Thirst is real. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/05/18 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Something to consider......I know what you're saying but I personally don't like having that degree of control. I'm not saying I'd give up all control though. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/04/18 08:03 PM |
| 1 | The power of the pussyYeah, you're fucked So are you dude. What the fuck? | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/04/18 09:19 PM |
| 1 | The power of the pussyI did wank to the thought of her and it was the strongest orgasm I'd ever had in my entire life. I've never felt so strongly before. I don't want to be a jerk to her, but man do I want to impose myself on her, take her home and have my way with her. That orgasm was mind blowing and will forever be seared in my brain. I like how I've been acting on here. If she doesn't like me, whatever, but I think she does (or I'm imaging things..not sure, like I said vibes and synchronization) | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/04/18 03:42 PM |
| 1 | The power of the pussyyeah dude...smh...maybe these erotic fantasies are just a bunch of pent up sexual frustration...maybe not..dunno. Something intense like I've never felt before nonetheless. If only I could free myself from the shackles of my superego and social restraints I might just do something about it. There's a lot of neurotic thoughts stopping me it seems, perhaps. | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/04/18 10:52 PM |
| 1 | The power of the pussyActually the entire post was mostly an excuse to work in the phrase "The power of the pussy corrupted me". I've seen the phrase before and it just sounds funny. Yeah, I'm weird. | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/04/18 10:33 PM |
| 1 | The power of the pussyYeah, I now it sounds horribly sentimental and self absorbed doesn't it, but then I guess that's what happens when you try to put pen to paper. I just care about her, irrationally, and I feel like I'd be willing to put her needs first more often than I have others in the past, but in a less dependent way. We're not fucking and she's not my girlfriend. She just a girl who hangs out with the same crowd that I do. I have no idea if she's interested. These could all be auto-erotic fantasies that my … | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/04/18 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Sometimes the greatest act of love is to do nothing at all.Well, I wasn't implying(or even referring to that situation) that you should expect her to come back or use it as tactic, but if the person comes back, and you want to let them back in that's fine. In general, I don't think you should ever try to "win" someone back. Once it's over, it's over. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/04/18 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Are MGTOW2 and GentlemenOnly basically the same subreddit?Based on what I saw on that sub it's similar but I don't think MGTOW2 is about being a "gentleman" and pursuing "manly hobbies", whatever those are. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/03/18 05:45 PM |
| 1 | This blows (pressure to marry)...Sidebar: "No demeaning allowed. We live our own lives, and do not attack others." So, yeah, fuck you. And I don't intend to breed. The world would be a better place. There's already more that 7 billion people on this planet. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/03/18 04:50 PM |
| 1 | This blows (pressure to marry)...I have my own place in the same region but they support me. My mom has good intentions but is a little controlling. My school work was one area of my life that I did have control over. I'm done with it now, and financial independence is now a goal of mine. Ideally I would pursue my other dreams and get a part time job or work fewer hours, preferably a job related to what I studied, but most positions are full time. It's hard to find work either way. That's an interesting quote. It actually makes… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/03/18 02:54 PM |
| 1 | This blows (pressure to marry)...Good points. Just want to clear one thing up. The type of love I'm describing is not unconditional. It's based on voluntary association. If someone's being an asshole repeatedly (as my friend has been), I don't have to continue to associate with him. The only reason I tolerate him is because he's been good to me in the past, and I've known him for so long. When you form a relationship with someone that isn't abusive and is based on voluntary association - that's love. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/03/18 03:28 AM |
| 1 | This blows (pressure to marry)...Totally. On an unrelated note...I hate the term "single". I mean what is it? As opposed to "taken"? | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/03/18 11:16 PM |
| 1 | This blows (pressure to marry)...That's for the advice. I have no problem with women, though I do suffer anxiety, but it goes away pretty fast when I'm comfortable with them and I've been socializing, but marriage is definitely not for me. I've seen how society glorifies it. I'd rather have multiple romantic partners / friends, and I feel like marriage is sort of like an illusory coercive contract to make you feel safe and people realize that now, which is why divorce rates are high. People can and will leave whenever they want… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/03/18 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Sex Dolls- The Ins and Outs and Ins and Outs...This is interesting stuff. I'm a bit of a hedonist so I'm interested in devices that could somehow stimulate the pleasure centers in the brain. I recall the someone using the term "sex button" in an article I read once. I found it here: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/mar/12/sxsw-neuroscientists-home-hacking-your-brain-with-electronics That's the future. | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/01/18 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Sometimes the greatest act of love is to do nothing at all.There is a subreddit r/wgtow but it's private | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/01/18 08:31 PM |
| 1 | No more validation!Yeah, pretty much. Wear what you want to wear. I'd love to grow my hair long again, dye it blonde at the tips with red streaks, but I think once I start working I'm going to have to cut it. I'm basically doing what you're doing. I'm still going to bathe daily obviously, and I'm not going to walk around be mean to people, but yeah, if I want to grow a beard, I'll do that. If I want to ratty clothes that I think look cool to me, I'll do that. Who needs validation. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/01/18 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Theory: "Chads" and an invention.yeah, I can see it..it's not just "chads" but "nerds", "geeks", "jocks", "cool guys"...those writers invented all those things, the whole cast, and pitted us against each other. I never self-identified as a "nerd" despite having nerdy interests. I used to like carpentry when I was kid, I fixed bikes, I programmed computers, later I played the drums and the guitar, and I developed an interest in philosophy as well. But I would never pigeon hole myself according to the any image the entertainment … | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/01/18 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Beautiful...It's really cool. I'm signed up for courses on Linux, SQL, Ethical Hacking, and Java: Spring Framework. The quality of the instruction seems pretty good to me, plus you can look up the qualifications of the lecturers before hand as well as their feedback ratings. All of the courses people offer have to go through some quality assurance as well. There are courses on all sorts of things, and I mean everything (not just IT and programming, but everything) I'm thinking about signing up for a few mus… | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/01/18 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Beautiful...I don't think it's such a bad thing though. I actually like monk mode. It's important to be able to stand on your own. I've been playing my guitar, going to shows, and like I said I've been educating myself (Udemy courses) which are just as good as the courses I took in university plus you can do them at your own pace and I got them for $15 a course. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/01/18 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Beautiful...I appreciate the sentiment. I'm think I'm going monk for life. Right now either my mind or body isn't in a state where I would want a woman for either sex or any type of relationship, and I believe in living in tune with who you are. As for work, I'm trying to avoid the full time 40 hour work week, not a big fan of being a wage slave. I need time to think and drink. I'm trying to find the meaning of life, whatever that is. At one time, I thought it was love, and perhaps it is, but I'm in a state… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/01/18 07:34 AM |
| 1 | I was banned from r/mgtow for asking why 'Ex-Gay Therapy' is in the sidebar.I tried to have meaningful discussion on r/mgtow as well. There are few guys who actually said meaningful things, one even said my post was interesting, but they went ahead and removed it anyway. It seems people like to bully each other on there. Heaven forbid you don't participate in the circle jerk. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/01/18 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Abusive Relationships: No Hope For MenMy mom always used to put my dad down, cursed at him and berates him for always hanging out with his friends. The worst thing is my dad isn't that smart, so he makes mistakes and she verbally castrates him for it. This has been an ongoing theme. Throughout my childhood I saw this happen over and over again, to the point where I noticed he developed reactive narcissism and would almost childishly try to defend himself. It got really bad a few weeks ago when I was visiting, she ran up to him with … | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/01/18 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Theory: "Chads" and an invention.I never said I was a Tesla. Nice talking to you though. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/01/18 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Became MGTOW Through ExperienceI don't believe in looking at other's lives, and then modelling my own according to that standard. Marriage and long term relationships are almost fetishes in our society today. People look at them and think that's what I should be doing, I should play the game, and follow the dream someone else is trying to sell me. Follow your heart (as cheesy as that sounds) and stay healthy. I don't even define my relationships anymore, there's no exclusivity, feelings come and go whether I'm "dating" or not… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/01/18 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Theory: "Chads" and an invention.I strongly agree that men are made to be incompetent fools on TV. When I was a kid I used to watch a show called beetlejuice. The main male character was a goofy retard (at least he was funny..awww), while the main female character, lydia, was a genius (stable, collected, sensible). You know what really bothers me? I read an article that suggested boys were starting to under perform in mathematics and science. I'm tempted to blame this on anti-intellectualism in pop culture. The role models boys… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/01/18 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Theory: "Chads" and an invention.The internet scares me sometimes. I actually do know a few Teslas. I did an undergrad in physics, and these guys all have their PhDs now. One went to MIT, another went to Harvard, another UBC. I knew a really smart guy but I don't think he watched much television. In fact, I don't thing these guys model themselves on the goofy guys on TV. The smart guys I know aren't media whores. In contrast, I have a friend here who doesn't nothing but binge watch stuff and he's pretty empty headed. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/01/18 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Theory: "Chads" and an invention.I stopped watching the Big Bang Theory many many seasons ago. At the very beginning of that show, in the first few episodes, Sheldon was actually really cool. He was smart, and a little quirky, but he wasn't a bumbling awkward mess. They gradually made more and more dorky, and eventually paired him, and everyone else off. I hate that show, I can't get behind any of the male characters. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/01/18 07:45 PM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.to "they".. I swear I was not lurking on this sub before. I just hate marriage and everything associated with it and what leads up to it. That's all the rituals and games and screening process... all of that.. you can only be friends with women. I don't want to screen them. Marriage is not the ultimate goal. I thought MGTOW because I read some good things on quora. | /r/MGTOW | 12/01/18 03:01 AM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.To a time before the poet, before women were appropriated as objects in popular culture, before the romantic age I guess (as much as I love my ephemeral whims)... the thing is, once that happens, someone will eventually write a love song or a poem, or make a gift, and then people will fall in love with those things, and then people will amplify their ephemeral whims, and instead of falling in love with people, they fall in love with love...and then we end up where we are now. I get the feeling y… | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 08:48 PM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.Lol. Okay...I'll be more careful with my terminology. I think we can form attachments to people besides our care givers. I can kind of see what your getting at though. That you shouldn't get attached to a lover or spouse. Technically, if we never got attached to each other..I guess it could make life a lot safer...abusers don't abuse if they don't get attached, right? Crazy idea for you: should we traumatize our children, so they never form attachments in their adult life then? Is dismissive att… | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 08:31 PM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.Yeah, I know of dowries and arranged marriages to the do what you feel like mentality to the poet who exploits women and turns them into objects which leads to the exploitation of women, because they are no longer women but abstractions that float around in popular culture. Totally, I get it. I'm certain it's a perfectly natural instinct, but it can be warped and deformed in deadly ways. I don't believe in love at first sight, though in my experience, after I develop feelings for someone, they b… | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 08:23 PM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.I want to add that when I say eros, it isn't just passion. It's the illusion of "closeness", "affective" closeness, that I child might feel for it's primary care givers. It's not an empty feeling. It's a feeling of security. | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 05:47 PM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.Interesting post...apparently the mods don't think so. Isn't MGTOW about thinking for ourselves? | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 05:08 PM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.Looking at recent research the underlying biology is there only it isn't really called "romantic love", rather it is called attraction (romantic) and is linked to increased dopamine levels in various brain structures which tie into the frontal lobe (and i theorize is connected to creativity). The invention I think you're talking about is the actual expression of that biology - songs, cards, courtship, all that stuff. Yeah, everything around marriage and all that was invented to keep women under … | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 04:50 PM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.To me it's just a bunch of meaningless bullshit I don't want to go through. I'm not going to comment on "all women" because I don't know. I'm pretty sure there are some fairly hedonistic people out there who don't want to "grow up" and get married and enjoy letting their emotions engulf them rather than repressing them and living some practical sensible life. I don't want to be the "would you like to get some coffee?" nice guy. I want to be the crazy guy who's dopamine levels skyrocket and write… | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 04:21 PM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.Yeah, infatuation kicks ass. Curse me again and forever! We all live in varying degrees of delusion anyway...which I suspect is tied to creativity going back to what I said about Emma Goldman. | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 04:17 PM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.I am arguing facts. I've studied the psychology of love and I'm seeing through some of the assumptions (one being that we should all get married and be in exclusive long term relationships and search for "real" love). You'd be surprised how some MGTOW ideals do overlap with feminist ideals. And just because, as far as being functional is concerned, we don't need our feelings, doesn't mean our feelings aren't an important and enjoyable part of life. I don't want to end up in masochistic loveless … | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 04:56 AM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.We all manipulate, that is true.. I'm manipulating you right now... my heart and lungs are manipulating the environment even. I don't want to go all out chad though. Chads are dumb. I will only compromise so far. I think it's quite possible to have a beneficial conversation where there is mutual gain out of the interaction, more than just trying to pick her up. "she's not yours" (that's another feminist ideal by the way) I don't believe in dating or exclusivity though so she can't really cheat b… | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 04:49 AM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.So the feminists and anarchists were right.....Well, for what's it's worth I see beauty in some of your philosophies but I think somehow, at least online, they've been tainted and misguided. Like I said, I actually like some MGTOW ideas. Fuck this pill shit. | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 04:39 AM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.I don't want that. Ever. If I had to choose I'd go with serial monogamy or polyamory. | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 04:35 AM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.Just because there's a space between us (an inevitability) and we're not psychic doesn't mean love isn't real. If you want to get philosophical, there will always be a space between us and the universe and the environment, does that make our experience any less real? Yes, the affective component of love, what you feel, isn't what she feels. This is why cognitive empathy is superior to emotional empathy. I don't think she only love what you do for her. How do you know she doesn't see you and want… | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 04:26 AM |
| 1 | I don't share some of your dispositions...in fact I knew very little about MGTOW when I first posted.See, that's what I mean by I don't share some of your dispositions. I actually want genuine connection with women without projecting my dreams and biases on to them. All these things - marriage, dating, courtship, buying the dream home...etc. That's the bullshit I want to cut through. I couldn't care less about sex, but I have nothing against a one night stand or episodic sexuality. | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/18 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Courtship = bullshitYeah, totally. At least that's more honest than overthinking and worrying if she'll like you, or if you should say this or that, or if she's compatible or any of the whole slew of bullshit they feed us. | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/18 07:43 PM |
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