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Frankly, I think that some people are just authoritarian and others are liberal. ​ If for some reason an authoritarian cannot find an in-group that is in power, they will join a liberal cause. And if that liberal cause starts to gain power and legitimacy they will work hard to turn it into an authoritarian group where they can be a central and influential member. ​ And liberals (real liberals, not modern SJWs) are liberals regardless of their group affiliation. Even if their in-group is the one …
/r/MensRights11/06/19 08:08 PM
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I mean that you give all women guns and lots of all sorts of people will end up dead.
/r/MensRights10/06/19 11:22 AM
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Sounds like a recipe for a whole lot of dead MRAs to me.
/r/MensRights10/06/19 08:44 AM
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You're a hero. ​ I'm so tired of seeing so much misinformation on here. I don't have time to fact check every damn thing I read on the internet. Reddit used to be better. With submitter post at least trying to say true things, and top post always had a clear correction if there was anything wrong. ​ And now original posts are full of intentional misleading information. They get corrected only sometimes, and attempts to correct misinformation are invariably met with misdirection, gaslighting, con…
/r/MensRights10/06/19 08:07 AM
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SEXUAL ASSAULT PREVENTION TIPS: Invest in a competent, non-corrupt police force. ​ /ftfy
/r/MensRights09/06/19 02:56 PM
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There is no model, the Duluth model is 100% horseshit. Any alternative model would be 100% horseshit. Like others said, the other model is due process, treating individuals as individuals with individual rights. As opposed to treating them as genders and holding them accountable for something that is entirely theoretical.
/r/MensRights08/06/19 11:46 PM
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Where do you think the wage gap comes from? Men earn 60% of the money but women spend 80% of it. Women just don't work as hard as men, because they don't have to, because men are easily convinced to pay for 250k worth of debt. ​ Also, how do you not declare bankruptcy on a debt of 250k? There's no way that's ever getting paid off, institutions who lent that money were completely irresponsible and deserve to be defaulted on.
/r/MensRights08/06/19 10:46 PM
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Also, how incredibly high they were in the early 1900s kinda proves that the idea that men were privileged and women oppressed is kind of a lie.
/r/MensRights07/06/19 09:59 PM
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It's an extended scene that was not in the actual release. It looks to me like they did their best to cut all the excessive SJW stuff out of the movie.
/r/MensRights29/05/19 07:30 AM
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In terminator, the implications are clear, the terminator is reckless with human life, and that's not right. Luckily, in this case, he was being reckless with people who generally have the same disregard for human life. This make it easier to forgive the terminator. But it IS something wrong, that must be forgiven. ​ In captain marvel, the movie (with the extended scene) expects you to celebrate her cruelty, because the target of her cruelty asked her to smile. ​ Btw, I watched the movie, and I …
/r/MensRights29/05/19 07:28 AM
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I seem to remember that the terminator in T2 had killed some people in the beginning of the movie until the boy John Connor ordered him not to. ​ But maybe I remembered wrong.
/r/MensRights25/05/19 07:10 PM
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I'd rather get raped than killed. ​ Are you seriously implying that mass murder isn't objectively worse than mass rape?
/r/MensRights25/05/19 06:57 PM
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I guess I don't know enough but it seems to me that she was given an impossible task because the house is unable to come to a consensus to anything. Anything she proposes will be considered insufficient. ​ But putting a woman in charge of delivering bad news seems to be a common tactic of the last decade. You're going to have a rare few misogynists who will say that it's all because they put a woman in charge, and then the feminist army will come charging in her defense. And the people trying to…
/r/MensRights25/05/19 05:30 PM
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I don't know if there is anything out there. The best I can find is Red Pill Theory. While most of it has been warped by hormones and stupidity. It does contain a lot of truth to it. ​ It's super important to recognize the radically different way in which women interact with the world and behave socially. And how to maintain your power within that social environment. ​ This is how I manage to contribute to steering my group of friends clear of feminism. Basically, despite there being a few femin…
/r/MensRights25/05/19 05:15 PM
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The hero of terminator 2 had a character arc where he started as a psychopathic murdering machine and ended with something resembling compassion empathy and respect for human life. ​ That Captain Marvel scene was glorifying the psychopathic callousness justified by disapproving of the way a guy flirts with girls.
/r/MensRights25/05/19 11:49 AM
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First, I wasn't making the point that "gender is a social construct", I was making the point that your argument is invalid. So you're just trying to refute something I didn't say. Secondly, there's absolutely nothing ignorant and stupid in using an existing word to refer to new concepts. Large chunks of mathematics, invented by people way smarter than us have done exactly that. If you have a problem with a new concept that people are proposing, dispute the concept, not the word that people are u…
/r/MensRights22/05/19 06:29 PM
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You can't just disagree with someone's definition of a word and then act like you've proven that the concept behind the definition they were using doesn't exist. ​ Well, actually you can, you just did. I guess what I'm saying is that you can't do it without appearing ignorant.
/r/MensRights22/05/19 04:33 PM
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Yeah, kinda how feminism is about equality between the genders. ​ Until you go into the details, and you realized that feminism presents a warped perspective on reality through patriarchy theory. ​ The red pill does the same thing. It's stated goals are lofty, but it does present a warped perspective on reality, the resulting advice on behavior becomes warped as well. ​ People from a very feminist / blue pilled environment can learn a lot from red pill theory. But those that stick to red pill th…
/r/MensRights08/05/19 06:00 AM
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The difference between aggressive and assertive is tact.
/r/MensRights07/05/19 07:12 AM
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When it just started there was a transition between a ton of meticulous rote work to a mix between meticulous rote work and managing complex abstraction, to ever more complex abstractions and ever better tools to reduce the amount of meticulous rote work required. ​ At the start it didn't pay well. And since men, then and now are expected to be the primary earners, they weren't going to take that kind of job. Men entered the field when the job became important enough to pay more for it, which ca…
/r/MensRights04/05/19 09:52 AM
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I'm in tech, women are rare as hell, but I've never seen them be less qualified than men. ​ But I'm sure your mileage will vary and that some companies will hire women in tech just to have more women.
/r/MensRights04/05/19 09:48 AM
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I was raised on shows like inspector gadget. Girls were always the smart ones. Guess how many girls in the computer science class? ​ The media won't change biology. Girls, with few exceptions, are never going to take up the chivalrous self sacrificing role just because that's what they saw in movies growing up. But boys might start to believe that they'll find tons of women just as honorable as they are, but they won't.
/r/MensRights03/05/19 05:36 PM
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Why is everyone here being so weird? ​ Standardized crash test dummies is the weird thing. There should be female crash test dummies, tall crash test dummies short crash test dummies etc... ​ Obviously if all your tests are with the exact same crash test dummies, then your safety features will be tested only for a particular shape of a person. ​ And if that particular shape is male then that sucks for women and is a very valid concern. ​ The fact that this kind of garbage is getting upvoted make…
/r/MensRights27/04/19 10:48 PM
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A simple change in copy and focus could have turned this from a value signalling exercise to a campaign that matched reality. That's exactly right. You could flip the writing around (a bit of the editorial focus) and you'd have a video promoting respecting men's natural harmless behavior (kids mock fighting, men casually flirting with girls, awkward men awkwardly trying to talk to girls, etc...) in order to promote smoother relations between men and women. And the video would have a completely d…
/r/MensRights25/04/19 08:26 PM
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The entire thing was just a big massive troll. Almost every situation had two different interpretations. ​ Were the boys just play acting wrestling or were they full on fighting? Can't tell. ​ Was the guy just going to walk up to a hot girl trying to respectfully strike up a conversation and flirt with her. Or was he going to walk up to her and unload his frustration and baggage on her? Can't tell. Did the guy ask the hot girls at the pool to smile as a (foolish) way to break the ice and start u…
/r/MensRights25/04/19 04:40 PM
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They person who wrote against discrimination (aka diversity) was a woman. I'm quite certain that google would have responded so harshly if James Damore was a black woman.
/r/MensRights22/04/19 09:27 AM
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The difference between men's lib and liberal men's rights. Is that men's lib believe that we live in a patriarchal society wherein women are oppressed by men. And that it is that oppression that explains their cherry picked statistics and that we must therefore compensate for that oppression by oppressing men and privileging women. Liberal men's rights (e.g. MHRM) want each individual to be free to express themselves without any social expectations or impositions based on their sex or gender. Wh…
/r/MensRights31/03/19 08:30 AM
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It's super short sighted too. Of course there's more guys on there than women. But top quality men are looking for top quality sluts, tinder made it easy for those men to find some. In turn girls flock the the platform, and guys follow. Girls are always going to be disappointed, they trying to get commitment from the top 10% while only being the in the top 50%. But that top 10% of men are drowning in pussy, what they need is more convenient access. If they want to maintain their success, they ne…
/r/MensRights31/03/19 07:44 AM
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He intentionally baits his "opponents" into misunderstanding him and his position, then rebuttals them with sophisticated (and accurate) arguments that only his followers understand. He is a demagogue and is creating a cult of personality. And IMO that's not great progress. But it is progress. I'm just not buying what he's selling.
/r/MensRights28/03/19 07:27 PM
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There you go, Trump is finally learning how to use the established venues for corruption.
/r/MensRights08/03/19 08:43 PM
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I disagree. Back in the days right before the internet, MRAs would use outrage tactics to make sure that people would talk about them. So, right from the start, their leader didn't care if they were perceived as misogynists. But the movement didn't fill itself with misogynists. And when then internet became a thing and outrage tactics weren't really needed anymore only MRAs were actually quite left leaning and anti misogynistic. But now, the Men's rights movement has gained a lot of credibility …
/r/MensRights05/03/19 07:55 PM
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Also did i not explain why definitions are important in debates. It isn't only your problem considering this is a discussion thread. We need a single definition so to not collide. That's why he referred to people who self-identify as feminists. They identify themselves as feminist as per their own definition. He brought a claim and supported it with some sources and some statistics. You claimed to be able to bring all the stats needed to bring clarity so if these statistics are wrong or a misrep…
/r/MensRights05/03/19 08:47 AM
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Believe in yourself. Look inside yourself for the validation of your own experience. Because you can't always expect others to do so. It is nice when you can have others relate to the difficulties you face. But it isn't always like that. You have to lower your expectations. It does make the world look a little harsher. But the world is a little harsh. That said, if you have real depression problem. It's quite possible that no amount of amateur psychobabble like mine will ever be able to help you…
/r/MensRights04/03/19 11:09 AM
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You've got a shitty card in you hand. But you gotta play the hand you're dealt. And you're pretty young, you'll get a few more shitty cards like that in your life. No one is ever actually happy. Everyone is always trying to be happy. Frankly, I think our brains are built that way. It doesn't matter what your actual life circumstances are, your brain will find a reason to be unsatisfied, and you'll try to fix it. And if it's unfixable, then you live with the misery and try to fix the next best th…
/r/MensRights04/03/19 11:01 AM
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First, feminism DOES have an anti-white problem. They are the ones racists against whites. And just the same as how they are sexists against men and see anyone that opposes that sexism as misogynists, they are also racists against white men and will see anyone opposing that racism as racists. The form of their racism is the same as their sexism. It's based on the apex fallacy. They look at the top 0.1%, see only white people and use it as an excuse to oppress white men at the bottom 30%. I this …
/r/MensRights04/03/19 10:08 AM
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You're looking at men's problems through a feminist lens, so you are going to get some mixed responses. But I do appreciate the sentiment. Thank you. The concern with the feminist lens, is that it makes disappear all the worst objective injustices that men face. It also has a way of always blaming men for men's problem, and then holding men accountable for fix it. Instead blaming society as a whole and holding society and women accountable for fixing things. The other problem with feminism is th…
/r/MensRights04/03/19 08:54 AM
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It's such a dumb reactionary thing to do. It's like they truly don't get it. Both ads are insulting to men. This one is not as bad as the other one. But they're both telling men how they need to be. Instead of just letting them define it for themselves. It's like "oh? guys didn't like us trying to portray them as dumb pussies? Ok, we're going to make an ad celebrating square jaw, traditionally masculine army men."
/r/MensRights03/03/19 10:03 PM
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Nope, wasn't joking. His earlier stuff was much better. the later stuff looks just like /r/mensrights
/r/MensRights01/03/19 08:45 AM
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There is /r/maleempowerment There is also /r/oney that isn't terrible. It's just that stuff that's not outrage inducing doesn't attract much interest. So it doesn't get much posts and it doesn't get much content.
/r/MensRights28/02/19 08:26 PM
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Why would they use ethereum as the decentralized communication protocol? Isn't there something better, with better performance and cheaper that we can use?
/r/MensRights28/02/19 07:42 AM
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To be honest I don't have a very strong opinion on it. It just seems reductive to me. As in, it reduces the person to their gender and race. And I think this is a problem in public policy because if there's a problem that affects people of a certain gender or ethnicity, it's often not due directly to their gender or ethnicity. And with the variability of human beings there's a good chance that other people of all genders and ethnicities also suffer from the same problem. So why are we only tryin…
/r/MensRights26/02/19 06:51 PM
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Well, in a way I totally agree it's bullshit. In that anytime someone makes a movie based on a book or an established lore and they don't respect the source material, then it's kinda bullshit. It's like there's this source material that has some serious soul to it and that soul made it very popular. But if they then try to capitalize on its popularity but without preserving its soul, then that's total bullshit. Then going around and accusing people of being mysoginists because they are upset tha…
/r/MensRights26/02/19 06:35 PM
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I spent 5 minutes searching, couldn't find anything. The best I could find is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHhexi3FS28 Which seems to prove pretty much the opposite. She says that a Wrinkle in Time wasn't made for white dudes so it's normal that white men critics didn't like it. But she would have liked if there were more diverse critics, then her movie would have gotten better critical approval. With Captain Marvel, she did a weird media stunt by having an interview with a disabled bla…
/r/MensRights26/02/19 07:46 AM
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Except that who paid for the poster? If it was government funded, then there is a problem with it. If it was funded by a private business school. Then good luck to them.
/r/MensRights26/02/19 07:32 AM
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What I found funny, is that his idea is, in fact, not nearly as patronizing as the Gillette ad.
/r/MensRights25/02/19 08:19 PM
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No it's not. You obviously don't understand what Patriarchy is. Patriarchy is a social system that empower and privileges men while disenfranchises and oppresses women. What you have here is a list that shows the exact opposite. You should learn what you're talking about before you spew nonsense.
/r/MensRights24/02/19 08:13 PM
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I'm a leftist, I oppose a large portion of what are typically conservative political position. And am in a favor of a large portion of what are typically leftist position. The idea that every human being is deserving of an equal quality of life and the opportunity to have the same kind of life as anyone else regardless of gender, belief, place of birth etc... is a very leftist ideal. It is why am I am an MRA. These things that feminists do, they aren't leftist. They're just plain sexist. To me t…
/r/MensRights24/02/19 10:40 AM
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This is real progress. This is amazing. Finally someone bringing sanity into the discussion. And real progress too!
/r/MensRights23/02/19 08:42 AM
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The guy was 15 years old. She was 19. I don't see what the big deal is. I also wouldn't care if the roles were reversed either. Please stop with the puritanism. Puritanism is how you end up with idiocracy. When only idiots have sex, only idiots have kids, and then idiots rule the world.
/r/MensRights21/02/19 09:38 PM
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I am a left wing liberal pro men's right. And I argue the opposite. Traditionally left wing institutions are no longer liberal. They are now regressive and authoritarian. Meanwhile, the right still has no real intent of ever helping the bottom 50% of men. Only true progressive left can help men. The problem is that there are no more political institutions that represents the true progressive left. Even /r/mensright which used to lean fairly progressive left is getting captured by regressive righ…
/r/MensRights21/02/19 05:49 AM
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My male friends that are sluts get laid more easily than my female friends that are sluts. But my female friends that are sluts are more subtle about it. Also, women, on average prefer older men. Men, on average, prefer women who are 18-30. Women prefer men who are like 25-55. That's a 30 year range vs a 12 year range. So, as a guy, when you're young, girls your age want nothing to do with you (because you're competing twice as many older more attractive guys). As you get older it reverses, girl…
/r/MensRights19/02/19 10:48 PM
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I actually kind of like Star Trek discovery. And there's not that much overt misandry. Most of the things that the guy talks about are just plain wrong. There are a bunch of prominent white guys in Star Trek discovery. The captain is currently a white guy. The chief engineer is a white guy (although he is gay). And there's plenty of white guys in secondary roles as well. And high ranking too. Michael Burnan is not a Mary Sue and there's no way anyone who has watched the should would honestly thi…
/r/MensRights19/02/19 09:43 PM
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Imagine being the reporter. And your qualifications as reporter are "black, female and disabled"
/r/MensRights12/02/19 08:53 PM
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Anyone who finds themselves in this situation or close to this situation. The solution is to make good male friends. And put your male friends first. This guy's mistake was to put women first. And that's just bad for you. Never do that. Bros before hoes, always.
/r/MensRights12/02/19 07:43 PM
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Dude, what that guy did is NOT ok. He didn't "just say there's a time limit for when it's safe to have kids". He lectured her and touched her inappropriately when she was not able to leave (on account that he had her glasses) and then even after repeatedly asking him to stop he didn't.
/r/MensRights12/02/19 07:30 PM
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It's because of money. Feminism makes a lot of money. Sometimes it's a lot ton of money for doing a fair amount of work. Sometime it's getting a fair amount of money for barely any work at all. Men's rights advocacy doesn't make any money. And the reason for that is government. Government gives feminism money (we're talking 100s of millions, if not billions) but does not give anything to MRAs. And there are very many reasons why this works this way. First there is the women are wonderful effect …
/r/MensRights12/02/19 06:46 PM
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This reply makes no sense. Where is your supporting argument? Is there something that makes you completely unable to have compassion for men? I don't get it. I'd like to think that your just a troll (MRAs are probably the easiest troll targets in the world). But I don't think that you are. I think that your original post represents your real view of MRAs. And somehow no evidence or proof of the contrary is going to be enough to change it. I don't know what it is that you need to be at peace with…
/r/MensRights11/02/19 09:47 PM
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In the tool bar there is a chain/paperclip looking button. You select the text that you want to make clickable and then click on that button. Then you'll be able to enter the website address. That chain/paperclip icon is pretty common in a lot of tools. So once you know to look for it, it is quite handy.
/r/MensRights11/02/19 09:15 PM
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This is very impressive. Great work. Can you make the links clickable numbers instead like [1] [2]
/r/MensRights11/02/19 07:43 PM
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The only instances where women were cared for and lived privileged lives have always been in the upper classes and they have almost always been white. I can find at least one more. Women who were "forced" to stay home and do the cooking and cleaning while the men were choking to death in coal mines or risking their lives on construction sites. There are many other examples of women being privileged compared to men, and I take it as proof of how fundamentally sexist you are that you can't think o…
/r/MensRights11/02/19 07:02 PM
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Can we please, get an alternative to reddit that's not an alt-right cesspool. Pretty please with a cherry on top?
/r/MensRights10/02/19 08:34 PM
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Nope, women already have all their rights. Men don't. Women's rights today is about female empowerment and male oppression. How in the hell do you expect MRAs to cooperate with that?
/r/MensRights10/02/19 06:48 PM
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This is a false comparison. First, to be fair. If you ask a random MRA, there's a good chance that he WILL complain about the ghostbusters reboot. Second the outrage against feminism isn't about inconsequential bullshit like ghostbusters or a couple of songs. It's about the Duluth model being pushed as standard procedure for officers. It's about the presumption of motherhood for resolving child custody disputes. It's about preserving basic civil liberties for male university students. It's about…
/r/MensRights10/02/19 06:28 PM
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0It seems to me that you understand nothing about men's rights. And probably don't understand much about the real world impact of feminism. Allow me to explain. Practically all of the "women are bad" posts that you see here are to treat 2 problems: Highlight double standards. This and that woman did this and that horrible thing and was celebrated for it. The key here is that we're not saying that women are worse than men, we're saying that horrible women are often celebrated or excused by societ…
/r/MensRights10/02/19 02:46 PM
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Maybe you can say it again in English? In particular try and keep the link clear from one sentence to the next as to what you're referring to when you say: "they, them, this school of anti-feminism". I can deal with spaghetti code but I can't decipher this spaghetti grammar.
/r/MensRights09/02/19 04:04 PM
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Unless it's done in academia. But there seems to be no research money for anti-feminist science in academia. Maybe republicans/conservatives should get on that.
/r/MensRights09/02/19 03:44 PM
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Use "women" instead of "female", male/female is typically used for animals. Edit: when using it as a noun. Female as an adjective is ok. The same is true for Male and Men
/r/MensRights09/02/19 02:13 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/afy8sn/proctor_and_gamble_releases_anti_men_commercial/eeau927/ Edit: No need to ban absolutely everything on that list. Every dollar counts. Guaranteed you're using some of these. And most are so easy to replace.
/r/MensRights09/02/19 12:43 PM
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You should fix the formatting, I couldn't read the whole thing. In fact, I stopped at the first thing: -No erectile dysfunction or performance problems. Inability to achieve orgasm is a big problem for a lot of women. And there's a easily a ton of other things. I mean, if you're self conscious about the size of your penis, imagine being self conscious about the size of your breasts where it's visible to everyone.
/r/MensRights09/02/19 09:59 AM
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Why am I getting downvoted?
/r/MensRights09/02/19 08:20 AM
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They can get help from every media outlet to support their gaslighting bigotry. But they can't hide falling sales for long. I think we need to keep P&G on the front page /r/mensrights for months. Hopefully, people will be able to reshape and retransmit the message in other communities. P&G products are well known to be overpriced. I'm sure that the production of P&G uses exploitative labor and their false concern for poverty needs to be advertised as hypocritical in feminist friendly circles. Ga…
/r/MensRights09/02/19 08:18 AM
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More like obvious troll
/r/MensRights09/02/19 08:09 AM
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They also have a more gender neutral initiative to combat extreme poverty. And by gender neutral, I mean that they're still a little biased against men, but their not directly attacking men, this time. https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/02/08/p-g-sponsors-documentary-on-extreme-poverty.html?ana=yahoo&yptr=yahoo The topics include clean drinking water and sanitation; racial bias and criminalization of poverty; girls’ education; responsible sourcing; plastic waste, and disaster relie…
/r/MensRights09/02/19 08:04 AM
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No, what they should do is make sure not to do one-on-one coaching of female colleagues. Just generally not be alone with a woman. Record sexual encounters in order to have proof that it was consensual. Don't get involved with feminists, or women with a history of lying. etc... All things that you'll find promoted on the manosphere.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 09:58 PM
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Straight up grabbing someone's genitals is pretty severe. But I've gotten might ass grabbed before, and I don't think the woman that did that should face any real repercussion from it. Someone going down the street and running after people to grab their ass is one thing. But grabbing someone's ass in a club, or bar, (depending on the club / bar) or at an adult fair with sexual undertones (e.g. octoberfest) is just not as big a deal. I sure as hell wouldn't do it. It is way too dangerous for a ma…
/r/MensRights05/02/19 09:39 PM
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Right, what do you think I meant by "overcriminalizing" how about we make it not illegal? At least not something that lands you in jail. It's like we're making natural sexual behavior illegal. And then it's mostly the dumbasses that end up with children.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 09:15 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks, this is just not that bad and that we're overcriminalizing sexual behavior? At worst she should get a 200$ fine.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 07:07 PM
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I don't think so. Proper access to abortion is the only "right" that women may be lacking in some places. And that's only because lots of people think fetuses are children. What breast cancer? It's probably the most overfunded research area. Rape culture? It doesn't exist I don't understand this narrative that you should compare victim status. OF COURSE you should compare victim status. Murder is worse than rape. We have the resources to tackle both, but we should spend more resources dealing wi…
/r/MensRights03/02/19 12:38 PM
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So... then the whole thing is fake? On my reddit !?! Well, I never...
/r/MensRights02/02/19 11:24 AM
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That is the lamest laziest attempt at hiding someone's identity I have ever seen. And I've watched superman.
/r/MensRights02/02/19 09:36 AM
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Playing devil's advocate: The ad isn't telling you not to be a man, it's telling you not to condone violent behavior and sexual assault. Why would you have a problem with that? The real problem with the ad isn't its official message: "tell your friends not to do horrid shit." The problem with the add is that it mixes mundane things with evil things, portrays one as the other. Everything in it is extremely nuanced and ambiguous: there's no actual sexual harassment, there's not actual bullying, th…
/r/MensRights31/01/19 11:24 PM
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This is the feminist scientific study pipeline. I just saw that study on /r/science yesterday. Basically, when an adult sees a video of a child cry in pain and they're told the child is a girl, they'll think the pain isn't as bad as when they're told the child is a boy for the same video. As with a TON of psychology research, they don't really consider reality. They have proven that adults judge a child's exclamation of pain differently based on their perception of the child's gender. That does …
/r/MensRights31/01/19 10:16 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks it's not that bad for a 17 yo and a 24 yo to have a sexual relationship together? And I agree that a teacher is somewhat in a position of authority and that can be abused. But for a lot of people that authority is a turn on and the fact that it can be abused doesn't mean that it does get abused. I definitely think a teacher should get fired, or at least suspended for engaging in inappropriate relationship with their student (at least wait until they're not in your c…
/r/MensRights31/01/19 09:21 PM
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding something or you're misunderstanding something. That image seems to be justifying blaming all men for the actions of a few. Basically, the forest is getting chopped down by a few humans. It doesn't give a shit if it's just a few of them and not all of them. It's humans doing the chopping down. And it's environmentalism that's the only thing that can stop it. So it's absurd for a forest to be against environmentalism. This is actually extremely effective. Environmentali…
/r/MensRights31/01/19 08:40 PM
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Gillette was expected to be on the way down before the advert. Sales being unchanged doesn't mean anything. Gillette razors are way overpriced. If you polarize the customers (feminists will buy it at any price and non-feminists won't buy it anymore), then you can keep selling it at the same price, while still losing as many customers as you were going to lose anyway. Boycotting Gillette is not enough, you have to boycott all of Procter and Gamble.
/r/MensRights31/01/19 07:31 PM
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The official reason for legitimizing talking about "toxic femininity" is to fight off the "women are wonderful effect". I used to suffer from this. Somehow, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary in my personal life, I just believed that women were better than men, that they were kinder, that they understood society better and that in many ways they were smarter. Highlighting all the bad things many women do and showing how they get away with it and how other men who suffer from the women ar…
/r/MensRights30/01/19 12:25 AM
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That a decent example of the reality that women are and have always been treated with privilege compared to men, and practically everywhere too. Feminists like to point out to examples in other places and other times where women were treated very poorly. But the reality is that in those places and times men were treated worse. Feminism isn't fighting base human instinct in favor of some moral high ground. On the contrary, it plays right into it. Or as I like to say, feminism is part of the patri…
/r/MensRights29/01/19 09:41 PM
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Looks like I was confusing it with purity balls. So I don't know what Daddy Daughter Dances are.
/r/MensRights29/01/19 08:58 PM
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Lazy Mexican Smelly French Dumb Blond ... When a negative adjective is used on a group of people and spoken by a bigot, the intent is to convey the message that the adjective applies to everyone in the group. When it becomes clear that many members of a group feel that it is indeed used that way. It becomes the responsibility of all decent people to use a different expression to convey their meaning. The only ones left who keep using the offensive expression are bigots and assholes. The acceptab…
/r/MensRights29/01/19 07:25 PM
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You do understand that you're part of why men are so oppressed right? The way it works is that people in power want to put women in a protected class and men in an exploited class. To the left, they say men are evil and powerful, women are wonderful and vulnerable, we must chain the men and empower the women (who are often too lazy and ineffective to truly take power). To the right, they teach you bullshit ideologies like the rights of private businesses above all else. And then they use those r…
/r/MensRights29/01/19 07:55 AM
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If they are, it might mean trouble for them. Feminist girlfriend and wives, and creepy feminist men might have an uptick of buying Gillette razors. But it will go back down because to them it's just a fad. Meanwhile the insult they've given to men who really understand the damage that they're causing isn't going to go away. It's going to stick. But not just that, the mainstream doesn't have the attention span or the knowledge to understand the debate. But over the next few month a certain image …
/r/MensRights29/01/19 07:47 AM
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They had a quaterly earnings announcement on that day. Investors were expecting to see $1.21 per share but got $1.22 per share. We're going to have to wait a few more weeks to see if the boycott has any effect. Also, the company's name is Procter and Gamble. And they sell a lot more than just razors. Find these overpriced items and stop buying them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Procter_%26_Gamble_brands Not only did Procter and Gamble execs say that they are fully behind the Gillette ad…
/r/MensRights28/01/19 06:26 AM
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Yeah, that's basically the result I'm looking for. In an ideal universe everyone deserves an equal quality of life and everyone would get that. But in the real world, that would be unfair to those that work hard. And I still think that even those who merely have better ability still deserve a bit more. The ideal universe is an unachievable goal, but we can work to make some progress towards it.
/r/MensRights27/01/19 02:23 PM
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The problem with doing this is that genuine women haters will join the "sarcastic" movement. And then the original message that doing this is wrong gets lost.
/r/MensRights27/01/19 12:06 PM
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Personally, if it was a mother and her son it would still be creepy. Frankly I would find it even more creepy. But when you consider the context it's even creepier. If I'm not mistaken this tradition is part of a bigger custom where women have to remain virgins until marriage and the father gives her away to her husband. The impression that it gives is that the father protects her daughter's virginity by standing in place of a romantic partner until she marries.
/r/MensRights27/01/19 11:57 AM
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No one believes or could be made to believe that all men are fat. Many people do believe and and many more can be made to believe that all men are toxic.
/r/MensRights27/01/19 11:37 AM
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progressive movement has largely been taken captive by regressive ideas sooo... progressive is now regressive? This is exactly the Orwelian kind of language that I'm complaining about. It's absurd. We aren't campaigning for equal numbers of homeless men and women, or equal numbers in workplace deaths, just for more support for those men in need. Yep, basically: equal opportunity AND fair outcomes. Like I already explained equal opportunity is insufficient. Some people will advocate for equal opp…
/r/MensRights27/01/19 11:14 AM
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I want to take the great successes you talk about, attach a word to it, give it a definition that seems to describe how that success was achieved and say that we should do more of that thing. You want to use the word liberalism, I tried to use the word progressive. Progressive seemed to make sense since others have already established the idea that what feminism is doing is in fact regressive. For the most part I agree with what you're saying. But I think that the idea that equality of opportuni…
/r/MensRights27/01/19 04:06 AM
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You're doing exactly the kind of thing that I'm complaining about in my original post. I've clearly defined what I meant by progressive and then you come along and tell me that the word progressive means something else. And that my "solution" is wrong because that "something else" isn't the solution. But the "something else" isn't the solution that I was talking about because you redefined my words. So now I'm going to invent a new word zprogressive that you cannot redefine from under me. Again,…
/r/MensRights27/01/19 03:51 AM
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None of this means that you should conflate the two. Feminism is regressive authoritarian left. Men's rights is progressive liberal left. There is no such thing as right wing men's rights. The right has never wanted to help men. Republicans only make a show of it in order to try and convert progressive democrats who feel left out by the now regressive democratic party. The right has never cared about, and are usually the cause of, problems like male homelessness, male incarceration rate and male…
/r/MensRights26/01/19 10:46 AM
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And are you going to have the same opinion once they make it a felony to misgender a person? Then you'll be the one locked up for 8 years because o multiple felonies and parole violations. You're using those words like it justifies treating a human being like an animal. It's bullshit.
/r/MensRights26/01/19 02:02 AM
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Not everyone is naturally stoic. Those who aren't often learn that showing their emotions causes people, especially women, to lose respect for them. Now, I think that there are ways for a man to show emotion where people won't lose respect for you. But very few people know how (I don't). So, the point is. There is a reality where showing emotions as man is going to make things worse. Some men never have to find out because they are generally stoic to begin with. Some men never really find out be…
/r/MensRights25/01/19 08:45 AM
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This is what I'm hoping for. People need to understand that it's not just OK, it's desirable for men to have power. Just the same as women. And it's normal for men to make mistakes. And it's normal for men not to be perfect in their interactions with others. By and large, men's behavior is not nearly to the point where you need a full social intervention telling them how they should behave. And the same is true of women. There are a lot of posts on here showing that women can be bad too. But ove…
/r/MensRights25/01/19 08:27 AM
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I hereby invoke Poe's law. It is not possible to tell if this is sarcasm or not. And if it is, it is impossible to tell what it is supposed to be mocking.
/r/MensRights25/01/19 12:06 AM
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See, that's exactly what I'm curious about. The anti-MRA shaming tactics are very successful. But it's just not possible to shame someone into buying your product like that. P&G has a long history of boycotts of all sorts. Many that looked scarier than ours. So I can understand why traders are unconcerned. And they just might be right. But we'll have to wait and see. It will be 3 months before the next earnings call. But it might be just a week or two before insiders know about the impact.
/r/MensRights24/01/19 11:12 PM
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Back then I think there was a thing called the civil rights movement. Unfortunately mainstream knowledge of history is feminist history. And that's my level of knowledge of history. But the civil rights movement brought worker rights, and equal rights for every ethnicity. And I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't behind the beginning of equal rights for women too. But somehow women had to have their own movement. It couldn't just be civil rights for women too. It couldn't be equal treatment of wo…
/r/MensRights24/01/19 02:05 AM
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Here's my take on feminism. They lure you in with promises of giving you social infrastructure through which you can express your compassion empathy and sense of fairness in order to make the world a better place. And then you find yourself in an environment where people are telling you that men, especially white men are the cause of most or all suffering in the world (which is complete false, duh). And that it's particularly their maleness (and their whiteness) that makes it so. I expect that t…
/r/MensRights24/01/19 01:10 AM
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It might be something to do with it being an SJW thing, or just circumstances in general. If they had done it with the rewind thing, all hell would have broken loose, 10x worse. Then they did it with this ad and no one seems to care. And it might be because this is an SJW thing. SJWs are actually extremely powerful. You don't want to be publicly against SJWs in a fight like this. There is a fair chance that it will literally ruin your life. So even people who might be outraged at the precedent t…
/r/MensRights24/01/19 12:01 AM
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It's a lie. Seeing it happen in real time was eye oppening. The hate against this ad is FAR more widespread than you'd believe based on social media. All the mainstream media tries its best to be in favor of it. At the beginning the dislike to like ratio was 10 to 1, but then weird things started happening and people's dislike stopped working. They got a LOT better at deleting all the comments hating on it and a TON of SJW comments started showing up. I hope SOO much that this is going to tank t…
/r/MensRights23/01/19 09:55 PM
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You're stumbling onto a very tricky situation. On the want side we're trying to highlight the double standard. So there are memes that pop up with with exaggerated "toxic femininity" to mock "toxic masculinity". Off course, there are a bunch of women haters and they love spreading these kinds of memes under the cover of sarcasm. And this subreddit being anonymous and everything it's kinda of difficult to shame those people. And we don't want to become like feminists and start banning people for …
/r/MensRights23/01/19 07:18 PM
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Seriously though, what is happening in your life that you view of reality is so warped? How did you come to the conclusion that the kid is a douche? He did absolutely nothing wrong. And ffs Someone brought up that Nathan lied about something. As if that changes wether the kid is a douche. Are you literally missing half of your brain? Say, Nathan tells everyone you're a rapist. And everyone believes him. Then it gets found out and proven that he lied about that. I think you'd quite like it if eve…
/r/MensRights23/01/19 07:07 PM
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Procter and Gamble too. They own Gillette and the whole leadership of Procter and Gamble is backing the sexist ideology behind the Gillette ad. So that's a bunch more products that you can easily boycott.
/r/MensRights23/01/19 08:02 AM
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Frankly, I think we should go the other way, and de-escalate the situation. "Sexual assault" without coercion is not that big a deal. It shouldn't lead to serious legal repercussion. But it should, generally, get you kicked out of whatever place you're in (provided that you really offended the person you "assaulted"). And depending on the type of assault and the context, environment, it shouldn't even get you kicked out. E.g. if you're in a club with a sexually charged atmosphere, a quick tap on…
/r/MensRights22/01/19 08:38 PM
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Add to that the regular and incessant pestering for activism, signatures (and oh, btw, you can donate here, but you don't have too, just your signature is enough, but the donation's button's right here, ok?) This thing smells so fishy I feel like I'm on a fishing boat. (I'm bad at punny similes, don't sue me).
/r/MensRights22/01/19 07:30 PM
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/fixing this for you: because the world refuses to have compassion for men and invest in their wellbeing just for being human. Is it so wrong to teach men to solve their own problems when you know that seeking help causes more problems than it solves for men? https://www.reddit.com/r/wholesomememes/comments/aifoqk/men_being_wholesome/eenr2pk/ Women lose respect for men who are weepy. People in general lack compassion for men. I used to be against these kinds of "feel good posts" because they're …
/r/MensRights22/01/19 07:25 PM
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Impossible to lie about the price of a company like that. People who have a lot of money to lose if they're wrong and are willing to spend a lot of money to make sure that they're never wrong believe that our boycott won't have much of an effect. Except these people are sometimes wrong. Hopefully especially about grassroots movements like ours. It's not the first time P&G gets boycotted. It got boycotted before due to the fact that they had some implied homosexuality in their ad. There was a pet…
/r/MensRights21/01/19 10:58 PM
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I'm switching away from P&G until they do a full apology and total condemnation of toxic masculinity theory. So, probably forever. It's so easy too. There are too many choices of stuff to buy anyway. Now I only have to decide between half as much stuff that is all essentially the same thing.
/r/MensRights21/01/19 10:51 PM
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I started watching from way before the 900k dowvotes mark, and I don't remember seeing those black dancers on the tv. Maybe CBS got a different version directly from Gillette?
/r/MensRights20/01/19 06:50 PM
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It's not about making Ideologues apologize, it's about making Procter and Gamble apologize and clean house. An Ideologue is just a person. Procter and Gamble is an institution. It can be destroyed (but I don't think our boycott is that strong) but that's not going to advance our cause. It needs to be converted. And it is a corporation it cares about money first and foremost. That makes it a soft target from our perspective.
/r/MensRights20/01/19 06:23 PM
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We're not fighting a company here, we're not fighting people either. We're fighting an ideology. Specifically one of hatred towards men that used to masquerade itself as compassion for women and now pretends to be concern for men. Fighting an ideology is hard. To beat it, it's not enough to destroy the symbols and leaders of that ideology you have to pervert them. Proctor and Gamble have made themselves a symbol of the ideology of toxic masculinity. What's great about it is that they are extreme…
/r/MensRights20/01/19 02:29 PM
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Standard operating procedure for feminism. Say correct or difficult to falsify things in scientific publications, BUT use easy to misinterpret language. Report on said scientific publications, keep most of the nuance intact but strongly emphasize the perspective that supports the false narrative (general public acceptance of the false narrative is the end goal). Report on those reports (blogs, tv, politicians etc...), but ommit the nuance and only mention the parts that supports the false narrat…
/r/MensRights20/01/19 10:16 AM
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Go on the youtube video. Put a dislike on it. Also right a negative feedback comment and say you're boycotting it too. Even though you love the add and like the product. Their association with Gillette is toxic and can't be tolerated. You do this, and all the other brands will start doing politics to sink Gillette's new marketing strategy. Basically, if someone at a completely different section of the company does something stupid that hurts themselves, they don't care. They might even be glad o…
/r/MensRights20/01/19 09:27 AM
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Unfortunately it seems it's just par for the course. Last time this showed up here, someone pointed out that many women are now paying more than men for car insurance in California. Sadly, this just proves that the only reason why car insurance was treated different from health insurance is because of sexism.
/r/MensRights20/01/19 09:14 AM
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Never shoot your foot to spite your nose. If you can't find a good replacement keep using it. Good men worked hard to make that shampoo. Don't let feminists take it away from you. But, if you can find essentially the same shampoo but from another brand. Then that would be nice.
/r/MensRights19/01/19 10:10 PM
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Midan, don't be a moron. If you're not already then that's great. If that offends you it just proves that you're a moron. PS: I'm a big fan of shoeonhead. Could you please stop by her Patreon and give her a bunch of money? kthxbye
/r/MensRights19/01/19 09:30 PM
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It is shaming masculinity. It blows certain things out of proportion (mansplaining, attempting to flirt with girls, being bad at flirting with girls). It false frames these things as uniquely male problems (women "femsplain" too, they bully, they sexually harass, and they are occasionally awkward at flirting). And then holds all men accountable for fixing it as though by the fact of being male you are responsible for all the other men doing bad things. THAT is shaming masculinity. How are you on…
/r/MensRights19/01/19 09:29 PM
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I get that this is to try and highlight a double standard. But would a man really get a much worse treatment? Sometimes yes sometimes not. The "child" is 15 years old. And clearly consenting. News flash: teenagers have sex. News flash: teenagers have sexual preferences News flash: some of those teenagers have sexual preferences for older people. Do you want to know who those guys are that say "niiice" when a teenage guy has sex with a teacher? Guys who are into older women. Now I get it, the law…
/r/MensRights19/01/19 08:36 PM
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It's not the first time that Procter and Gamble gets a boycott. But it is the first time that I get to boycott something. It's great, I came back from buying a different Laundry detergent. I absolutely LOVED the old one. But Procter and Gamble owns it. So, it's out. Procter and Gamble has been boycotted by conservatives before over homosexual imagery. I guess it didn't hurt much that time. But I'm a liberal. This is going to be a bipartisan boycott. Do we have any non-lazy people who can make a …
/r/MensRights19/01/19 04:38 PM
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You're right, you really don't understand what it's like being attacked for being male. All the things you mention are excuses used to attack men. That video was designed to piss MRAs off. And piss them off it did. But not enough. This video is the result of decades of research to disenfranchise men. How is anyone using the expression "toxic masculinity" not worthy of immediate and total condemnation? You have to be willingly blind to fail to understand that most people in the mainstream will in…
/r/MensRights17/01/19 10:52 PM
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Is it just me or is this hard read? Here it is in more compact format: Top Brands Always menstrual hygiene products Ariel laundry detergent Bounty paper towels, sold in the United States and Canada Charmin bathroom tissue and moist towelettes Crest toothpaste Clancy's Potato Chips, Stackerz, etc... Dawn dishwashing Downy fabric softener and dryer sheets Fairy washing up liquid Febreze odor eliminator Gain laundry detergents, liquid fabric softener, dryer sheets and dish washing liquid Gillette r…
/r/MensRights17/01/19 08:50 PM
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Gillette is owned by P&G, the Gillette campaign is their official company position on social issues. The list of P&G products to boycott is pinned on the front page and you can find it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/afy8sn/proctor_and_gamble_releases_anti_men_commercial/
/r/MensRights17/01/19 08:01 AM
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Also, it takes a dogmatic stance on things that require nuance. Take the hot girl bit. She's obviously dressed and prepped to attract and will want people to take notice. And will certainly want attractive men to come and introduce themselves. Whether it's by saying hello, asking for directions or catcalling, it all depends on culture and personal preference. I don't cat call, never seen anyone cat call a girl (I have been catcalled by a girl once, though). But I don't hang out in those kinds of…
/r/MensRights16/01/19 01:47 AM
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Maybe you didn't click the link. They're supporting the exact same thing as Gillette. That could explain why Gillette thought their advert would work. It's because all the other stuff was happening inside echo chambers that their real customers didn't know about.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 11:08 PM
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Whelp, if you guys are shills for harrys, this is a MASSIVE fail. There are four organizations on that page: The one at the top, The Representation Project, is just pure feminist bs. The second, is basically "He for She" all over again. "A call to men": A call to men to value and respect women more. Exactly the kind of garbage we're boycotting Gillette about. Better take that down before more people find out. The third one, CALM, is a strange one. The description given on harrys.com's website se…
/r/MensRights15/01/19 10:57 PM
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Or when human traders see that there is indeed a problem and start trading down and the bots pick up on the trend. Honestly, I have no idea how day trading markets work.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 09:31 PM
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Exactly, this P&G thing is so cathartic. Finally something I can DO. And it's not just Gillette, it's all of Proctor and Gamble On this article, you can see that Gary Coombe is 100% behind this misandrist campaign: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/briannaheldt/2019/01/15/gillette-releases-controversial-ad-against-toxic-masculinity-n2539054 And here, you can see that Gary Coombe (Global Grooming) is #3 top leader at proctor and gamble (behind, the CEO and Global Health) https://www.pg.co.uk/leadersh…
/r/MensRights15/01/19 07:57 PM
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And Proctor and Gamble seems to be doubling down. So I may actually go through the effort of switching their other products. I use Ariel laundry detergent, Head and Shoulders and sometimes Crest toothpaste. All P&G products that's going to cost them when I stop buying them. It's kinda nice to have some kind of criteria to help me decide which to choose of the 1000s of products that do essentially the same thing for the same price.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 07:40 PM
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I checked it on wikipedia. Gillette is owned by Proctor & Gamble. You could try and boycott them, but then they sell half the stuff you buy and it would take you a few days just to list them. Wikipedia says that Wilkinson Sword Company has sued them because they were making false claims in their advertising (still doing it lol). So I'm going to buy a bunch of Wilkinson Sword Company razors. Hopefully they don't turn out misandrist. Edit: I also found some of their ads Pretty Good: https://www.yo…
/r/MensRights14/01/19 07:27 PM
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I can't stand Mirrodin's style of arguments. It is almost transparent in its hate for transgenders. But he just tries to find some politically correct way of expressing it. That said, my personal experience does validate this. A lot of gender queer people are socialized into believing that they need to change their gender rather than accept their quirks and learning how to fit in society while accepting and respecting their own biology. (*Edit: and respecting how society wants to see them)
/r/MensRights13/01/19 04:05 PM
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Many feminists do often criticize traditional femininity. But when acting with authority they make sure not to do so because only the individual women herself can say what is right or not for her, no one else. And NEVER, EVER would any feminist even think of calling bad feminine behavior "Toxic femininity" because regardless of the actual intent, it gives the impression on the listener that femininity itself is toxic and that's not acceptable. And it should be downright illegal for anyone in a p…
/r/MensRights10/01/19 08:34 AM
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"Traditional Masculinity" could lead to flirting and the formation of well functioning families. Thereby preventing the slow burn extinction of those societies that practice it relative to those societies that vilify it.
/r/MensRights10/01/19 08:22 AM
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There is no such thing as not enough people who do X. It is always, companies aren't willing to pay more for people who do.
/r/MensRights07/01/19 07:07 PM
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I don't get it, isn't this something the FBI should be looking into? I mean forging court transcripts should be some kind of very serious federal crime shouldn't it?
/r/MensRights05/01/19 08:04 PM
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It's easy to find seemingly convincing evidence for these kinds of theories. I still haven't found a way to properly asses the reliability of a social theory like this one. But since we're putting theories out there. Seems to me that the core problem is letting hypergamy run rampant. With hypergamy unchecked in just a few generation, you wind up with a inverse proportional relationship between the value a man brings to society and his reproductive success. This can only lead to the collapse of c…
/r/MensRights03/01/19 10:47 PM
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Sucking on government money is its own industry. Things like that don't come about because there is a need for it, they come about because there is the right kinds of people in all the right kinds of places to make it possible. Half of the time, when feminists say that feminism cares about men too and that men's rights activists should become feminists too. What they mean is that they want us to join the feminist industry, add our forces to their forces in order to try and get even more governme…
/r/MensRights02/01/19 05:36 PM
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The truth is boring and complicated. These alternatives probably already exists in sociology and psychology research papers. But they are boring and complicated so they never reach mainstream consciousness, they don't even reach MRA spaces. But if you want to put the effort into it, maybe you can look for and find these papers and post them on here.
/r/MensRights02/01/19 02:09 AM
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I just watched it, I thought it was pretty good. All the bad guys but one are white males. And the one exception is a white female that gets barely any screen time. It's like they put the effort of making a diverse cast for the good guys, but gave up when it was time for casting the bad guys. John's character was a hero and like the guy says in the youtube video, he was repeatedly vindicated. Basically, he's an anti-hero. Saves the day, but is an asshole while doing it. The movie has an obvious …
/r/MensRights02/01/19 01:27 AM
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This is a shitty attempt of doing a reverse gender role of the hot-crazy matrix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwbKYcBdVyk The reason that it is shitty is that the chart they made comes straight out of red pill theory. Basically, it's a chart of what men understand of how women are and what they're attracted to. So it's super lame. The hot-crazy matrix is something that men don't do by instinct. It is advice for men by a man on recommending additional considerations beyond what they instinctiv…
/r/MensRights01/01/19 03:57 PM
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I haven't seen the movie, and while lack of male bashing is sadly to be considered a step in the right direction, glorification of male weakness isn't really what we're looking for. "I screwed up" and "I need help" are things women have been trying to get men to say since humans have started speaking. and in all those hundreds of thousands of years of evolution, men never "learned". I don't think it's because we're neanderthals, I think there's a legit reason for it, even though we don't fully u…
/r/MensRights31/12/18 05:16 AM
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I disagree the left and the right have very different view as to what men's rights should look like. Secondly, what BAS88 says is correct. Today, feminism is one of, in not the single, greatest threath to men's rights and their home is the democratic party. I consider myself a liberal progressive. And I think that feminists are regressives that need to excised out of liberal politics. But we need to keep pushing for and protect individual liberties like transgender rights, gay marriage, etc... B…
/r/MensRights30/12/18 10:00 PM
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Ok, thank you. Looks good to me now. I wish you luck.
/r/MensRights23/12/18 12:28 PM
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And you go on /r/mensrights to recruit candidates? It's an incredibly self-selected group of people, your study is going to be essentially worthless. Alternately, you might be here to study men's rights activists themselves. And there are tons of interesting things to try to learn about men's rights activists. Their sexuality is the least of them. I've been seeing these in /r/oneY as well. It's just bizarre. And there's so little context too. Can we consider these as SPAM unless they come from p…
/r/MensRights23/12/18 11:37 AM
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It's just the continuation of the new narrative that started a few weeks ago. The elite started seeing how feminism was starting to hurt them so they're working on redirecting the damage. You're going to start seeing less and less calls for female board member quotas and women executives. I'm not sure exactly who the "Elite" are and how they're able to manipulate the feminist narrative in this way. But this looks planned to me. (Right wing pundits will tell you it's George Soros but right winger…
/r/MensRights23/12/18 11:25 AM
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Yep, that's something... I mean people are saying something about racism or something. I don't get it. Am I being accused of being racist against blacks because I point out that blacks can go to jail for innocent stuff like smoking weed a lot more than white, or is it because I'm being racist against whites by making it sound that they have it so much easier when really they don't. Or maybe it's that there's little bit of something for everyone. Reading it again, it sounds like master troll bait…
/r/MensRights20/12/18 10:39 PM
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This is something that I'm just now learning. But I think it is important for MRAs to understand. Sure, you could say that the system is rigged. But a better interpretation is that you don't know the real rules of the system. She followed the real rules, you didn't. The real rules aren't written down and they change all the time. People sometimes get scared of following the real rules, instead of following the one people say are the real rules. As though following the rules that people give you …
/r/MensRights20/12/18 12:51 PM
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The compromise between feminists trying to change society to subjugate and exploit men and a MGTOWs trying to change society to subjugate and exploit women isn't a fair system. It's a system filled with injustices on both sides that each side figures is going to be better able to exploit than the other. The middle between two bad things on the extreme isn't the sensible solution. It's just a messy mix of bad things. Extremism is simple and easy. Sensible and nuanced is hard and complicated. Thin…
/r/MensRights19/12/18 12:36 PM
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This again? I'm honestly all in favor of people trying to improve the quality of the sub and having discussions on how to do that. But it's to the point where people are basically making almost the exact same post every other day. And I keep trying to answer the same way: Be the change you want to see. You want more posts on here discussing ways that men are underprivileged in modern society? Then make interesting posts on the subjection. You want more discussion on these posts, then actually re…
/r/MensRights17/12/18 11:14 PM
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Internet keyboard warrior much?
/r/MensRights14/12/18 10:58 PM
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Louie C.K. and Aziz Ansari. Louie was ruined by metoo for being into very tame weird sex. Aziz Ansari was ruined by metoo for being bad at sex. This is the proven b.s. because what they were accused of was b.s. It's hard to tell about the rest of it, some of the girls of the Kavanaugh case have retracted, but he wasn't ruined by it. There's also the recent attack on Neil Degrasse Tyson. Most likely fabricated, probably going to hurt his carreer. Before metoo there were a few highly publicized ca…
/r/MensRights14/12/18 10:56 PM
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The youtuber is saying that gender is binary because society will treat people as male or female. That's basically what gender being a social construct means. Society says what gender is. And society largely says that there are only two genders: male and female. But some people don't want to see themselves as just one gender or the other. And some people don't want society to see them as just one gender or the other. So starting with saying that gender is not a social construct and then making a…
/r/MensRights10/12/18 07:44 AM
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Religious, traditionalist, nationalist and authoritarian. I'm not fighting for Men's Rights just to swap one moral absolutist authoritarian regime for another different moral absolutist authoritarian regime. Even thought that particular moral absolutist authoritarian regime happens to want to privilege my gender instead of oppress it, I still whole heartedly trust them to find other reasons to oppress me. I want the government and large institutions (universities and large corporations) to stop …
/r/MensRights09/12/18 10:06 PM
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Or you could treat them like human beings who don't understand what this sub is about yet and you explain it to them. Also, keep in mind that for every post, there's 10 (or 100?) people with the same opinion who are just lurking. So that's a lot of people you're turning away from the movement for no reason. And to be honest, I think tone-policing is extremely important, because I don't want this sub to turn into just woman bashing.
/r/MensRights09/12/18 05:09 PM
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Oh don't feel bad about not "getting it" sooner. Like I said, because of the free speech take on moderation, there's probably only 5% of posts that actually talk about the real issues. So it's normal that they get lost in the noise. Watch "The Red Pill" documentary by Cassie Jaye (it's hard to find online). Watch the disposable male by Karen Straughan. Those are pretty good introductions to the movements. Your best bet is to try and stick to Youtube where people aren't anonymous, because extremi…
/r/MensRights09/12/18 04:40 PM
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Be the change you want to see. Bitching about feminism is way easier than trying to come up with constructive solutions. You have to accept /r/MensRights for what it is. It is practically a free speech zone where anyone can give their point of view with little moderator intervention. This means that a lot of organizations find it easy to target /r/MensRights to spread their propaganda. A lot of bitter people find that it is a convenient place for them to air their frustrations. That said, femini…
/r/MensRights09/12/18 02:32 PM
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I just don't see the problem here. I just wish men felt free to do that same kind of stuff. But then again, they'd rather talk about work and video games.
/r/MensRights09/12/18 12:48 PM
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Wow, I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed. It was so strange to see the flip from right wing propaganda right before the election to left wing/feminist propaganda right after the election. This place is under the receiving end of so much bullshitters, it's incredible.
/r/MensRights09/12/18 08:39 AM
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Lol, my poor dude/dudette, you just stirred the hornet's nest. You have a LOT to learn. But the fact that you're here proves that you want to learn. If you want some serious content, I recommend you watch youtube videos from girlwriteswhat. Start with the disposable male. If you're looking for some light hearted humoristic stuff, I recommend shoeOnHead. But as a first introduction, your best bet is the "Red Pill" movie by Cassie Jaye. But it's not on youtube and can be difficult to find.
/r/MensRights08/12/18 02:51 PM
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No, the reason that those figures work is that the people who "believe" these statistics don't care about the truth.
/r/MensRights08/12/18 12:33 PM
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There's always been incompetent people in positions of authority. These incompetent men are slowly being replaced by women. I guess it will make them easier to recognize?
/r/MensRights08/12/18 12:14 PM
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In feminist academia, it's pretty much how this works. You have a biological sex. And you have a gender. Your gender is a social construct. (A bit of a warning to any trangender person reading this, I respect you and I respect your choices, but you're probably not going to like what I have to say). Like Tzaran says, you can't ever change your sex. The tricky part is the gender. Gender, since it is a "social construct" is not a rational thing. It's not even really a real thing. It's what people p…
/r/MensRights08/12/18 12:09 PM
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Cassie says in the movie that the pregnant feminist is her friend. So she wouldn't want to make her look too bad. But you can tell the total disregard for men's concerns. There's no excuse for adoption without the man's consent. Almost everything else to do with parental choice you can argue women's body is women's choice + best interest of the child. But it's still bullshit, if it's about the best interest of the child, then government should pay for it. Making the "father" pay for it is about …
/r/MensRights08/12/18 11:35 AM
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It's time we rethink the way science is done. It needs to be more open and democratic. With far more emphasis on reproducibility. Governments primary job should be to fund and reward research that invalidates, replicates or somehow demonstrates limitations of popular research papers.. With equal importance is funding research of "hard" science. Like physics, mathematics, biology and, to some extent, medicine. I put hard in quotes here, because it is a misnomers. Compared to soft sciences, "hard"…
/r/MensRights08/12/18 09:54 AM
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One of the key things we need to do is to make ideas derived from the concepts of male privilege and patriarchy theory into politically incorrect ideas. To do that, we need scientific consensus that these concepts are bullshit.
/r/MensRights07/12/18 06:26 PM
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I think that there is a fundamental difference in the way most women understand and interact with reality compared to men. This difference, looks like solipsism. But it's not that. Women are able to understand reality as occurring outside of themselves just as well as men can. And they will use that ability whenever it suits them. To me, it's about how women and men deal with the interaction between their emotions and reality. Men will make an abstraction of their emotions, and an abstraction of…
/r/MensRights07/12/18 06:15 PM
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Where can we see the minister's written response? Without it, we've got nothing more than grandstanding.
/r/MensRights06/12/18 12:47 AM
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I like saying that feminism is the patriarchy
/r/MensRights03/12/18 09:24 PM
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As you should be this is straight up briggading. It's against reddit site wide rules and can get you banned from reddit altogether. It's also against /r/men's right rules and will likely get your submission deleted by the mods.
/r/MensRights03/12/18 07:08 PM
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men's right doesn't have this. And people concern troll all the time. And we regularly have people come on here yelling the propaganda of the week. But we still manage. And that's because we have a defensible position. Our plight, our stance and our perspective are all grounded in reality. This is not the case for feminism.
/r/MensRights03/12/18 06:51 PM
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I think that you'll find that this is not only possible but actually is the only sensible way to do things. Feminism is about equality for women and men. And feminism does help men too. You see, derailing conversations on topics that help women hurts both women and men. Because by doing so you promote patriarchal values and the patriarchy hurts men and women. Plus feminism exists to fight oppression. But we can clearly see that men are oppression women proof: Trump. Therefore any time wasted try…
/r/MensRights03/12/18 06:34 PM
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I don't think so. His response is timely and well done. For this kind of allegation to sink you, you should be safe if: - You are left leaning - You never admit fault - There is no hard evidence And ffs, a lot of these things are nothing compared to what I see men and women do to each other on daily basis. If people really only had sex in the way that #metoo seems to want us to, almost no one would get laid anymore. Except for the mickey thing, that is completely out of bounds and should be a ja…
/r/MensRights03/12/18 06:24 PM
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TL;DR: I'm starting to suspect that you're engaging in propaganda. If you're not, PLEASE spend a lot of effort on educating yourself about the Men's Rights movement. The honey badgers and Cassy Jaye's "The Red Pill" are good starting points. " such as the fact that men aren’t really allowed to be emotional in our society" I'm starting to believe that you just may be a shill, now. If you are, you are WAY smarter than what we've been seeing in the past few weeks. But as you can see, it's not worki…
/r/MensRights01/12/18 06:51 PM
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They want to care about men's issues. But feminist theory won't let them. The two big lies of feminism are male privilege and patriarchy theory. Any "help" coming from someone who believes these two big lies will cause more harm than good. If you want to show compassion for both men and women, you'll have to first revisit your views on these two theories. The truth as I see it is this: The rich are privileged The beautiful are privileged Women are privileged The patriarchy exists in western soci…
/r/MensRights01/12/18 05:47 PM
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FeMRAdebates is dead. MRAs won the debate almost as soon as it started. I dug into it about 2 years ago. Saw that they had rules where they wanted people to agree on the terms they were using. After all, you can't have a proper debate if you're using words that might have completely different definitions. So they tried to define patriarchy, lol. I think that exerciser alone caused one or two feminist mods to stop being feminists. The feminists just weren't able to twist logic enough to define pa…
/r/MensRights01/12/18 05:26 PM
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So I took a look at the fempositive website. It's not nearly as bad as I feared. Basically, take the most sexist stuff about /r/mensrights, reverse the genders, make it much smarter, and you have fempositive. It's all about seeing the worst in men.
/r/MensRights01/12/18 10:21 AM
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You're find these people IRL Most reasonable people don't actually spend that much time online. Too many crazy people. Learn where and how you can stand your ground on what you believe in. If you're already doing the IRL thing and you're just looking to see how to fix the online situation. You're pretty much screwed. Online discussion these days is completely corrupted by various kinds of propaganda.
/r/MensRights30/11/18 06:07 PM
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I disagree, I think that's not the reason at all. First, feminists get burried in anti-MRA propaganda. They don't even read this place because their afraid to have their souls irreparably damaged from just looking at it. Second, there is a fundamental difference between the MRA approach and Feminist approach to acquiring new adherents. Feminists appeal to empathy, when someone start on with Feminism, the core concept is compassion. The poor abused women, the persecuted homosexuals and transgende…
/r/MensRights28/11/18 09:15 PM
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Lol, reality has an anti-feminist bias.
/r/MensRights27/11/18 06:04 PM
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Pure Men's Lib bs. Again.... Are you a real person oceanicpoultry? Or just a propaganda account, because we've been seeing a bunch of these Men's Lib submissions lately. The pressure to "be a man" is sexist. But a lot of that pressure is self imposed. It is instinctive. IMO it becomes a problem when others try to leverage that instinct to try and manipulate you: "Be a man! Go work 80 hours/week to support me and our chilldren". And yes there are "feminine" traits in every man. But we can learn t…
/r/MensRights27/11/18 08:46 AM
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Humanism seems nice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism And googling for humanism vs feminism gets this result: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/10/feminism-not-humanism-youtube_n_6132414.html Which ironically explains why feminism is a sexist movement and humanism is not.
/r/MensRights25/11/18 10:52 PM
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I think that's what they're saying, they don't want to ban circumcision for male children because based on the intent to make it gender neutral, adult women would then be able to choose to get circumcised. Which is obviously bullshit. Clearly, the Israeli lobby has gotten to them.
/r/MensRights25/11/18 12:58 PM
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I always figured that feminism is actually the modern implementation of the patriarchy. Men in power want to oppress other men and make women more accessible to them. That means lowering the soci-economic status of men, raising that of women to be nearer that of the elite. But this whole thing of putting more women as board of directors kinda poked a hole in that theory. But not anymore, in the UK: Middle-class women’s issues such as the gender pay gap and corporate glass ceiling are to be downg…
/r/MensRights23/11/18 08:16 AM
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Nope, this is Men's Lib misdirection. Instead of asking society to relieve the pressure on men: Demand that women do real work too. No more free rides on gender's studies and arts programs. Provide additional government services that cater to men exclusively. Services that find creative solutions around the problem of men not wanting to appear vulnerable. Fix the law so that fewer men end up in prison for bullshit reasons. Better financial protection laws, especially from alimony and child suppo…
/r/MensRights20/11/18 06:49 AM
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Feminism is a movement and a label, it has a core philosophy and core beliefs. There are diverging beliefs among various factions and it is likely that for any given core belief, you will find a faction that disagrees. But there is still a general trend. And most importantly there are clearly defined organisations and political leaders (e.g. NOW and Susan B. Anthony). There are key concepts like patriarchy and privilege. The definition of feminism is NOT equality, not in the way it is used, and …
/r/MensRights10/11/18 05:57 AM
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Except that those people aren't random nobodies. They are prominent and in some cases key members of the movement. From what I understand, (correct me if I'm wrong) in most cases they are officially supported by the most prominent feminist organisations. "Proper feminists", if they exist, have no real power. It's also awfully convenient that "proper feminists" believe in true equality while supporting misandrist institutions and philosophies.
/r/MensRights09/11/18 06:12 PM
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Well, not anymore. Looks like /r/MensRights is dead. Left wing feminists have been trying to kill it for years without success. Turns out what was needed to kill it was for the republican establishment to start supporting it.
/r/MensRights05/11/18 10:59 PM
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I feel like republicans are trying to take over this sub. It used to lean quite liberal, but now there are a lot of conservatives being more and more vocal about their perspective. I used to advocate for equal opportunity and fair outcomes. I feel like conservatives want equal opportunity (often only for those like them) and divergent outcomes (winners win big, losers become slaves). I feel like liberal MRAs want true fair treatment of individuals regardless of gender. Whereas conservative MRAs …
/r/MensRights04/11/18 07:26 PM
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Pagans are still around. Jews are still around Christians are still around Muslims are still around And unless something drastic happens to humanity, in a thousand years, feminists will be still around too.
/r/MensRights30/10/18 11:04 PM
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I stopped watching as soon as the jocks lifted up the girl's shirt up bs. That was episode 1, I believe. I don't know how it took you until the end to notice. And this is from someone who thinks the new female Doctor Who is actually quite good.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 05:59 PM
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That's what happens in almost any story. I am also a fan of Doctor Who and I also quite like the new direction. I fully expect the viewing numbers to drop because women will stop watching. Doctor Who was the alpha male. Now the show has no alpha males, and therefore, women won't really want to watch it anymore. I will admit this, what drew me in for Doctor Who is how they had a man as a leading role in a sci-fi show and was proud of his strengths. This is getting more and more exceptionally rare…
/r/MensRights28/10/18 10:52 AM
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Ever been to r /menslib? Everything on that poster seems to come straight out of that ideology. It's part of a two pronged strategy of empowering women and removing accountability for them on one side, and disempowering men and holding them accountable for everything on the other side. The will promote all the male behaviors that make them submissive and weak, while vilifying all the male behaviors that give them power and agency. They do this by giving examples of how the empowering male behavi…
/r/MensRights24/10/18 11:17 PM
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What is even the point of this submission? There are plenty of reasons to hate on Emma Watson. This is NOT one of them.
/r/MensRights23/10/18 09:51 PM
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It seems there’s nothing women can have – not even their status as a marginalised sex class – that men will not expect them to share lol, wtf, it's called equality....
/r/MensRights23/10/18 04:47 PM
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The master changing from male to female definitely felt like some kind of cringe. But it wasn't exactly SJW cringe. It's more of a femme fatale + women are wonderful effect. It's super cringy but the character type has existed since long before SJWs was a thing and been used in contexts that had nothing to do with feminism.
/r/MensRights20/10/18 06:09 PM
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As a fan of the show, I quite like the new doctor. There seems to be even less SJW pandering than there was before. And they needed a bit of a reboot. Things were getting a little too masturbatory. And the change in gender gives them an excuse to make an even bigger break in personality and story line from the older doctors. At least, that's what I'm hopping for.
/r/MensRights20/10/18 06:05 PM
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You missed out on the victim blaming in the last paragraph: This man should have gone on to publicise the said woman’s deeds, gaining inspiration from the many Me Too survivors. This could have saved his life and it is a clear indication that men should also join the campaign by voicing out their stories of harassment on social media.
/r/MensRights16/10/18 06:23 PM
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If you can afford it, you get a really good lawyer. Don't just keep your head down, make some friends. Don't talk to her, for any reason. Anyone questions you have your answers ready, "she's done X, Y and Z it's crazy and it scares me, I have no idea what to do about it. I don't want to start a fight with her, I don't want anything to do with her, but I'm not going to let it stop me from living my life" Edit: removed comment related to your username. I realize now that skyler white is the wife i…
/r/MensRights14/10/18 09:31 AM
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Well I have a theory, if you're a socialist when you're young and a capitalist when you're old, then you've been a selfish asshole your whole life. You're a socialist when you're young because you need society's help to find a solid place in society. And once you've found it, you become a capitalist because you don't want your resources used to help others who have not found a solid place in society.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 06:59 PM
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If you consider feminism like a religion, it makes sense. It's like going from being an atheist to a christian or a muslim. You're abandoning reason and responsibility in favor of what an ideology makes you feel. It's willful ignorance and irrationality. It's like wanting to go back and feel the women are wonderful effect. It is a way of life and it is a betrayal of their gender (when men do it) and a betrayal of justice.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 06:55 PM
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First, this being reddit, there's a more than even chance that this whole thing is fake. Bed Bugs investigator extraordinaire and all. But even if it is real, your first instinct is to go OMG this is proof of how hateful people have become of men? That poor woman was so ravaged by those bed bugs that days would go by that she didn't remember! She became completely paranoid. She was not acting rationally in the least. You can't go reading some weird ass gender bs from that. It makes no sense. It …
/r/MensRights10/10/18 10:40 PM
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That is such bullshit. When you start accepting outright lies to confirm your beliefs, you're turning into a lunatic. I have a friend who started saying that (but from the other side). We don't need more lies and insanity. We need truth and a level head. By accepting these lies you're just falling into the gender war trap, designed to distract us from all the other problems. Feminism IS a big problem and has been for a long time. But the mensrights community is turning into exactly the SAME prob…
/r/MensRights09/10/18 07:26 PM
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Which brings in the real reason. Those fields are hard word, but pay well. Women don't need that kind of money.
/r/MensRights02/10/18 06:13 PM
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Just make sure that you don't let this make you shy away from continued contact with the rest of the family. From the way you talk it doesn't look like you're really at risk. But if she's really far gone, her next step is to start turning others against you. If this exchange causes you to start acting shy with the rest of your extended family it will make it easy for her to turn others against you. Feminism feeds on displays of weakness. Be polite, be tactful, be present and don't apologize. Aga…
/r/MensRights01/10/18 10:15 PM
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ACA, net neutrality. Civil rights protection (e.g. anti-torture, anti-patriot act).
/r/MensRights30/09/18 09:51 AM
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But feminism is serving its purpose of divide and conquer. And frankly, I'm pretty sure shooting yourself in the foot is what left wing politicians are paid to do. See, right wing politicians promote blatantly anti-middle class policies and support it patently wrong theories. Left wing politicians promote pro-middle class policies but mysteriously always end up a few votes short or somehow end up shooting themselves in the foot. The problem for left wing politicians is that this kind of hypocris…
/r/MensRights30/09/18 12:30 AM
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I'm trying it's harder than it looks. A good troll will be almost indistinguishable from a normal but slightly misguided well meaning person. Whereas a political shill has a lot more backing and resources than you do, they are also sometimes difficult to distinguish from a well-meaning person who's listened to one too many political shill or whose political preference is just too different from yours. And sometimes maybe you're the well-meaning person who's listened to one too many political shi…
/r/MensRights30/09/18 12:11 AM
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Feminism is based upon how women (supposedly) feel. Look at where that's lead them. Yep, I'm looking at feminism and it looks to me that appealing to people's desire for compassion has helped them gain mainstream appeal and almost universal social acceptance. Now here we run headfirst into the average woman's lack of empathy for men. It won't resonate with them, whatever it is exactly that you mean. I guess then that my experience with women is different from yours. I know plenty of women femini…
/r/MensRights30/09/18 12:02 AM
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So, FGM where they ritually cut off girls labia minora is just fine? Because that is completely equivalent to circumcision and is totally illegal in most (all?) western democratic nations. But somehow male circumcision is just fine. In fact I believe that in many places even a simple nick of the labia is considered illegal FGM, while they still allow full male circumcision. And you should look into how some men are "circumcised" in Africa. It is just as barbaric as removing the clitoris. MGM isn…
/r/MensRights29/09/18 06:28 PM
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Hi, /r/mensrights has been invaded by trolls and political shills. And things are only going to get worst. Good people like you will no longer join and the good people that joined a long time ago come here less and less and will eventually abandon it altogether. As the MRM becomes more accepted, it becomes more powerful and it can be used as a very powerful tool by conservatives against liberals. So they are working very hard at corrupting the movement. The republicans want to do to the MRM what…
/r/MensRights29/09/18 06:02 PM
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You're not going to win over people who are tired of hate by trying to teach them to hate feminists. So you see hate as the only possible tool? I don't understand how you come to that conclusion right after reading something that states the exact opposite This is the part that confuses me, because what is needed for anything to happen is for women to have empathy for men, even their sons, and that just ain't the way it is. So it's women that need to have compassion, not MRAs. That's essentially …
/r/MensRights29/09/18 03:04 PM
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Women have the capacity for empathy for anything. Women, minorities, whale, elephants... AND men. Maybe you live somewhere that is too far under Feminism's influence to be able to notice. MRAs generally don't hate women but they do hate feminists. You're not going to win over people who are tired of hate by trying to teach them to hate feminists. The Red Pill isn't viral. Hate is viral, compassion is not. That's why we need a lot of content with compassion as central theme.
/r/MensRights29/09/18 08:57 AM
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Doing things based on logic and justice is good to build a solid philosophical and moral foundation. But we need emotional appeal in order to really get mainstream. Feminists lure their rank and file in by appealing to people desire to show compassion. Feminist will show them how others have suffered: women, minorities, lgbts and then they will point to men as the source of all the suffering. As a result they manage to turn compassion into hate. But a good portion of feminist rank and file don't…
/r/MensRights28/09/18 11:41 PM
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I'm not sure where I was saying or implying otherwise. The old guard doesn't display a lot of compassion in the way it communicates with the public. The vast majority of MRAs on here are also guilty of this. And I'm most definitely guilty of this. Even the honey badgers seem to be guilty of this. All their arguments are founded on logic and justice. Also just in case it wasn't clear, I didn't mean that the MRA old guard lacked compassion or tact towards Cassie herself.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 08:49 PM
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Yep, feminists have destroyed the civil rights movement by diverting the attention of a lot of impressionable compassionate young women.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 04:54 PM
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I am anti-religion, conservatives hate me too. Conservatives have always treated men as disposable it's liberals that have continually fought to improve and preserve men's civil rights. That is, until feminists took over. Before, you had conservatives who were regressives and liberal who were progressive. But with the full takeover of corrupt feminists both parties are now regressives. Nothing will be fixed by supporting conservative regressives. The only hope is for real progressives to start t…
/r/MensRights28/09/18 04:42 PM
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She's not an "MRA" but she is a men's rights activist. She doesn't want to associate with the old guard. And I believe it's because the old guard is emotionally insensitive (they care more about justice than compassion) and they are intentionally politically incorrect (which was the right tactic at the time because awareness was the most important objective and political incorrect behavior attracted attention).
/r/MensRights28/09/18 04:38 PM
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Again with this WalkAway bs. You're not going to scare off liberals with this. We're not idiots.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 01:22 PM
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It is a weapon that is used against us. It is an extremely powerful weapon and if we don't master it we will not be able to progress further. What's more, it is our weapon to use. The natural resting place of political correctness is civil liberties for all. It takes the constant application of power to move it to where it is today. We can move it back.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 01:21 PM
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I'm not familiar enough with the situation. But I would be astounded if Linus was abusive. My interpretation of "abuse" is that it is a pattern of behavior used to manipulate, weaken and control someone. Unnecessarily rude and hurtful due to a complete disregard for tact, empathy and compassion. That sounds more believable. And like I said, I think it's this culture of disregard for human niceties that contributed to the success of tech endeavors. He needs to revisit his approach because the suc…
/r/MensRights24/09/18 01:42 PM
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There is no way in hell you were ever a democrat you political shill.
/r/MensRights24/09/18 11:21 AM
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You underestimate the power of feminism and the sheer number of Manginas. Especially in the tech community. There will be no fork. Linus Torvald himself has gone on a hiatus to reflect on how he can be more inclusive in the way he communicates. Last time he went on hiatus was to develop Git which turned into a huge industry. All that he is and all that he built is in large part a result of his philosophy of merit over feelings. This is nothing less than the beginning of the death march of tech e…
/r/MensRights24/09/18 11:08 AM
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Because girls spend their boyfriends money on the stuff that TV tells them to buy.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 10:03 PM
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It's the new patriarchy. The elite push the average man down while propping up the average woman. This makes the vast majority of men and women unavailable to each other. With a small minority of men available to most women.
/r/MensRights20/09/18 07:04 AM
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The details can be revealed after the trial is over. By then it will be too late for media frenzy. But there will be enough oversight to detect and fix broken system.
/r/MensRights20/09/18 06:46 AM
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Start small. Start within your own social group. I haven't gone so far as to defend the MRA label itself. Honestly, it's not worth defending. But defending MRA talking points and defending those using reasonable MRA talking points are things I've done. And it has really had a powerful impact on the social dynamic and in preventing the incursion of feminism into the group. I would not defend the /r/mensrights subreddit, because at this points, obvious misogynists are regularly getting upvoted. Th…
/r/MensRights19/09/18 12:52 AM
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Welcome to the feminism industry. The more automation we have, the more we have incompetent busybodies looking to justify a paycheck. And so you get the feminism industry. The ideal vehicle for incompetent busybodies looking to justify a paycheck.
/r/MensRights18/09/18 07:28 PM
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You're reading a subreddit full of manhaters that bans anyone that is not a manhater. There are lots of women on /r/mensrights too and they don't hate men, hell, I dare say that they like men. And I'm pretty sure "modern" women aren't any different than olden times women. The only difference is that now it's really easy to read what the worst of them think.
/r/MensRights18/09/18 07:19 PM
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When you see "correlated" it means science hasn't got the foggiest what's actually going on here, but there may be something interesting worth looking into. Like maybe depressed people tend to live in hostile environments and so self-reliance becomes critical for their survival. Or maybe depressed people need to bottle up their emotions because nobody wants to hang out with a sad sap, and it's probably easier to treat depression when you get to hang out with people. Basically, "toxic masculinity…
/r/MensRights28/07/18 02:19 PM
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/r/Menslib is the product of a lot of research into subduing men. It is disgusting. /r/mensright is a completely open forum. It used to not be so bad, but some people are now taking advantage of its gaining credibility to spread their hate. Basically, exactly the same thing that's happened to feminism. I feel like what we need to do is to go back to the label of of civil rights. It so much less devisive. But also so much more boring the /r/civilrights subreddit is barely hanging on. But even if …
/r/MensRights27/07/18 07:00 PM
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Is that Obama quote for real? Did he actually make a speech in defense of white men? I was convinced he was an unrepentant 100% hardcore feminazi (Trudeau did manage to upstage him in that regard, unfortunately).
/r/MensRights23/07/18 09:13 PM
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If all of the most powerful people in the world had billions securely stashed in my bank (as in investments controlled through my bank), I would feel very, very, very safe.
/r/MensRights21/07/18 09:57 PM
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Are you seriously unable to comprehend that some muslims are callous murderers and some muslims are decent, kind human beings and that when a callous murderous muslim kills a kind, decent muslim it is an atrocity?
/r/MensRights15/07/18 09:36 AM
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Like the OP said, you have all your facts wrong. And even if your facts were right, I don't see how you belong on this sub. So what if a lot of muslims are murderous, the victim could be a completely innocent and kind person. It's like saying I don't give a shit if you get falsely accused of rape because westerners are feminists so the men over there deserve all the misandry that they get. I mean, how is this movement going to get anywhere if the members have no compassion for men?
/r/MensRights15/07/18 09:06 AM
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Women (many women) don't want to be safe, they want to get fucked by the most powerful men, while trampling on the rights of the average male. And then try to leverage what they have to appropriate for themselves as much as possible the power of the men they fuck. So, yes, women are safer with MRAs but it's the last place they want to be. Patriarchy is a system where men are incentivised to compete highest positions of power and where (attractive) women are elevated to just below them. All that …
/r/MensRights13/07/18 06:49 AM
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It's not harassment if it's not repeated regularly over a long period of time. Otherwise it's just a guy hitting on a girl.
/r/MensRights08/07/18 07:30 PM
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Except that it's not progressive it is regressive. I am progressive, and anyone advocating for men's rights on an equality of opportunity basis is progressive. These SJWs are regressive bigots.
/r/MensRights08/07/18 07:10 PM
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But he never apologized or accepted blame. This is the most important. Never apologize to a feminist. They will recognize you as an easy prey and attack twice as hard. No one will want to defend you because you won't even defend yourself. It would be suicide. Doing it in an affable and innocent way is next level. For beginners: don't apologize. For advanced users: be nice about it.
/r/MensRights06/07/18 09:17 PM
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They don't even do that. They imply that they're doing that, then throw random statistics that barely supports it and hope reader's poor reading skills will do the rest. I mean ffs, while trying to debunk that men make up one third of domestic violence victims, they point out that 2 thirds of patients who go to the hospital due to domestic violence were female. I am assuming here that the number of patients gendered as Apache attack helicopter is statistically insignificant. Do the 3rd grade mat…
/r/MensRights06/07/18 09:11 PM
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That's "post-truth" thinking. If the points are valid then there are facts to justify it. If all you can find is green text, then maybe you should reconsider your points.
/r/MensRights05/07/18 11:11 PM
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Chase compassion instead of justice. If you haven't yet, watch The Red Pill from Cassie Jaye. Look for other similarly minded youtubers. A lot of the fuel for this subreddit is outrage at the injustice. But I don't think outrage will cure the injustice. Spreading compassion will. Feminism lures people in with compassion and then corrupts them with hate. I would like to see MRAs lure people in with outrage and heal them with compassion.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 09:35 PM
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Or you know, maybe it's because people make accurate self assessment. People whose stress doesn't hurt them can tell and say so. People whose stress does hurt them can also tell and say so. People who's aging process comes with many bad side effects will say that they feel aging is bad for them. People who's aging process comes with fewer bad side effects will say that they feel that aging isn't so bad. Convincing someone whose stress hurts them that they should start believing the opposite, may…
/r/MensRights30/06/18 07:49 AM
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I don't understand what is causing these high level executives to take strategies that will obviously hurt their business.
/r/MensRights27/06/18 10:23 PM
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Omg, bbq, wtf, I started reading some of the comments and came accross this: https://archive.is/f10KK The behavior of those people is absolutely atrocious, I want to understand who put these people in charge and who is protecting them and shame them until they relent. And that was 10 months ago, what has happened since then?
/r/MensRights26/06/18 09:55 PM
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Add to that, your opponent (feminism) has a couple of orders of magnitudes more resources than you do.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 04:43 PM
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In vitro fertilization with donated sperm.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 07:07 PM
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Yeah, like I said to the other guy, you're right. Feminism and the left are almost the same. But I still don't like them being used interchangeably, because IMO, the goal here is to remove Feminism from the left, not to destroy the left.
/r/MensRights13/06/18 07:37 PM
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Wow I watched a couple of his videos and he seems to be saying a ton of stuff that I agree with and feel should be more mainstream. Thanks a lot for pointing him out to me.
/r/MensRights13/06/18 07:35 PM
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Lol, maybe you're right. As long as you don't start calling feminists liberals, or progressives because they're the opposite of that.
/r/MensRights10/06/18 08:02 PM
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I'm really getting tired of of politicizing happening in this subreddt. Feminist != left Feminist is authoritarian, morally dogmatic. They are exactly the same as traditional catholics, orthodox jews and radical muslims. They just follow a different rule book. They are not progressives, they are regressives. This expression the "regressive left" was getting really popular a while back. I'm certain it was thought up by some conservative think tank somewhere. Looks like they gave up on it, but f' …
/r/MensRights10/06/18 07:12 PM
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I don't have much experience in this, but if half of what I've heard is true. The divorce must be your top priority right now. Go find divorce rape horror stories online so you get properly motivated to do this right. You're going to be no good to your son if your life is fucked and you're a stressed out wreck for the next 15 years. Get a good, MRA friendly lawyer. To be afraid to spend a little extra. If your wife gets custody and a sympathetic lawyer she can end up with alimony and child payme…
/r/MensRights10/06/18 06:12 PM
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I've already said this today but I guess I'll say it again. Feminists aren't progressive, they are authoritarian with a dogmatic moral code. They are right wing regressives. Trying to move society back to a state where people's behavior is minutely controlled. There are no progressives or left wingers in politics today.
/r/MensRights10/06/18 10:02 AM
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I'm left wing and I'm so glad this is happening. Justin Trudeau is a hardcore feminist even for a liberal. We need less feminism in liberal politics, not more. Also IMO "liberal feminist" are neither liberal nor on the left, they are authoritarian with a dogmatic moral framework. From my perspective they are in the same bucket as traditional Christians, orthodox Jews and radical Muslims. All right wingers.
/r/MensRights09/06/18 05:26 PM
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The problem is that it pushes the almost ubiquitous narrative (especially among children) that women are far superior than men but being held back by, usually, the men currently in power. Children have no historical or social context. They will believe it.
/r/MensRights09/06/18 10:47 AM
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I don't understand what you're trying to get at here? Too small for what and how is this a response to homelessness rates being higher for men than women in Muslim countries?
/r/MensRights02/06/18 04:12 PM
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"women NEED to be delicate/weak/depedent/emotional" = "men NEED to be harsh/strong/independent/emotionless" These aren't traits imposed by social convention. These are traits helpful for sexual attraction and gender power dynamics. Delicate, weak and dependent makes women more attractive to men. Emotional makes women better able to manipulate men. Harsh/strong/independent/emotionless are all things that in the right circumstances will make a man more attractive to women. In addition, Harsh (and …
/r/MensRights02/06/18 12:40 PM
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You seem kinda new to this. It doesn't matter whether a men's rights movement has male supremacists in it or not. Feminists will claim that it does and it will be believed by the main stream. You can't let your actions be dictated by what feminists say about you or you're never going to be able to accomplish anything. Feminists have a ton of crazy ones, and they're frequently put front and center of the movement and it doesn't stop feminism from being socially acceptable and politically correct …
/r/MensRights02/06/18 10:41 AM
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This somewhat anti-white website that has been dug up from a deep corner of the web. It is completely insignificant compared to the serious racism being faces by blacks. This is a men's rights forum. Not a white rights forum. And almost of the problems faced by men are lessened when faced by a white man, vs a black man. So if I'm going to start seeing some intersectionality on woe is the white man. I better as FUCK see 100 times more posts talking about how particularly bad and worse it is for b…
/r/MensRights12/05/18 06:46 PM
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Get your racism off of here please. Especially since black men end up suffering just as much or worse at the hands of feminists. You are aware that feminist support for black is only token support and they take every chance they can get to divert that support towards white women, or worse case scenario, black women. Black men get zilch for support. All the horrible stats on how men do more jail time for the same crime or how they die earlier or are more likely to die at work. They're even worse …
/r/MensRights12/05/18 05:28 PM
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Yep, that's a couple of reasons, but in truth there are a ton of reasons. In no particular order: People like boobs. Men, Women, gays, lesbians, everyone likes boobs. There's an effect that's gaining awareness, you may have heard of it, but I don't remember the name (or maybe it doesn't have one) but it goes like this: It has be proven that if an avoidable, serious, problem that affects 500,000 women and no men needs $1 million do solve, people will will rally and raise money to make sure that t…
/r/MensRights10/05/18 04:10 AM
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A lot of girls are a kind of succubus and will fall for emo guys. My instinct tell me that they won't fall for actually sad wimpy guys. They still need that pro-activity/male agency that they find attractive, but combine it with the "emotional depth" of a guy that cries at the right time under the right circumstances, and her legs are going to immediately spread apart and panties will disappear.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 03:18 AM
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I consider myself a progressive. The american democrat party aren't really that much on the left anymore. They're the ones turning into moral absolutists and embracing intolerance. I still adhere to the left, it's left wing parties all over the world who are becoming right wing authoritarian moral absolutists with an us vs them mentality.
/r/MensRights06/05/18 06:24 AM
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I agree with most of what you said. But I don't believe that toxic behavior has no gender. I think that the way in which men express bad behavior is often different from the way in which women express it. I also suspect that a lot of "toxic behavior" contains elements of self preservation, self empowerment and self actualization. By eliminating all "toxic" behavior from a person that person may end up unable to have any real agency in society anymore.
/r/MensRights28/04/18 07:26 PM
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This is just some retarded kinky shit. From the texts, the guy is totally into it. Creepy af, if you ask me. Especially if your friend actually thinks that this is somehow about sexual assault prevention.
/r/MensRights01/04/18 11:13 AM
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Except that it's not true. Many feminist advocate for female exceptionalism. Women should do less prison time than men for the same crime. Women should have preferential treatment for consideration for high paying jobs. Women should be able to keep the same pay even if they work less and put less effort and thought into the work that they do. Feminism is also based on the belief that men are generally privileged over women. And that's pretty much constant across all branches of feminism. Althoug…
/r/MensRights30/03/18 08:52 AM
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Ok, I'm going to try and keep my response short because you're a troll and there's two big topics I want to address for anyone else reading this. So first, "toxic masculinity" is an expression designed to make men look bad. It is hate speech. I don't care what the original definition was. Speaking of which, the social scientists that came up with it seem to have mysteriously failed to research and raise awareness of "toxic feminitity". To me it looks like academia is ground zero for this particu…
/r/MensRights26/03/18 01:38 AM
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Omg, are you serious or are you a troll? Hang around here a bit longer and learn a few things. Domestic violence isn't a men's issue. The vast majority of domestic violence is reciprocal. That means both the man and the woman are violent to the other. This is part of the blame men for everything that feminists have been pushing for a long time. But they seem to be going overdrive on it in the past couple of years to combat the rise of men's rights activism. Basically, the idea is to blame men fo…
/r/MensRights25/03/18 11:52 PM
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Is this blaming men for men's problems? If so, it might be part of the feminist men's lib push. Which is not at all about helping men. I read through parts of the transcripts, and the conclusion seems to be asking society to change to be more accepting of men who are more emotional. Which is a step in the right direction. But like others are saying, what's really needed is protection of men's spaces and better social services targeted at men. Some men feel like being emotional or vulnerable is u…
/r/MensRights25/03/18 11:17 PM
1

Feminism is basically a religion. For a lot of people once they've converted to a religion they don't convert back. Just consider this, there are atheist Christians out there who don't believe in God and just believe that Jesus was some great dude with awesome things to say. Interestingly enough the pull to stay "religious" seems to be the same. You've equated morality with your religion. And you've made friends with people who believe the same. So you can't quit the religion and become immoral.…
/r/MensRights24/03/18 09:29 PM
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There is a bit of a just world system. But there is also an unjust world system. Basically, shitty people find themselves surrounded by other shitty people and end up buried in shit. Good, people find themselves surrounded by other good people and end up building nice things. In that sense, you will often see karmic retribution on people who habitually behave badly. But, shitty people and good people tend to separate because the good people try to move away from the shitty people. This creates a…
/r/MensRights18/03/18 11:48 PM
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Also Red Pill != Men's Rights There are a lot of blue pill Men's Rights. And while I personally believe many of the things that Red Pill theory advances, I don't agree with the general culture and the general behavior that most Red Pillers seem to believe is the natural reaction to the truths found in Red Pill theory. Lumping in MRAs with Red Pillers and then lumping in Red Pillers with Roosh was a huge propaganda push by SJWs about year ago. To give the impression that all MRAs are just a bunch…
/r/MensRights18/03/18 08:37 PM
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Ontario judge takes real action towards eliminating the wage gap.
/r/MensRights17/03/18 04:47 PM
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The rebuttle is: Why do you hate men? Why can't you care about men just as much as women. Then either they backpeddle and you can start "cooperatively" discuss men's issues and how to fix them. Of course, there, you could face men's lib philosophy (which boils down to all men's problem are men's fault for being men instead of being more like women). Or they will double down on the sexism and tell you about all the reasons why she hates men. You stay on the positive side of things and talk about …
/r/MensRights17/03/18 07:57 AM
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Cassie Jay's The Red Pill. Reason doesn't change people's minds it just makes them rationalize harder. Don't try to win the war right away. Just go for the small steps. The Red Pill (the movie, not the pick up artists movement) is all about teaching compassion for men. Then you can start moving in with the idea that it just seems like feminism just want men to fix women's problems and want to tell men that if they have problems then it's men's own fault, so people shouldn't help them beyond tell…
/r/MensRights14/03/18 01:20 AM
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SJWs are regressive Men's Rights is progressive.
/r/MensRights13/03/18 11:28 PM
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"MRA sites being listed among toxic sites" is part of how feminists try to control our behavior. "questionable assertions and negative comments about women here as well." The thing is that the problem is that you're calling the assertions "questionable" like you're not sure if the bad things we're saying about women are true or not, and therefore we shouldn't be saying them. What's actually happening is that women engage in a ton of absolutely horrendous behavior. And unlike feminists, we don't …
/r/MensRights12/03/18 06:53 PM
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Yep, it keeps getting worse too. Season 1 was nice in that it's one of the very rare mainstream shows these days that showed how a truly toxic human being can behave when that person is a woman (Trish's mom). They also did a weird thing, which is apply "toxic masculine" traits to a woman (Hogarth, the female lawyer). I've personally never witnessed a woman behaving this way or heard of one. But I took it as progress because it helps put the bad behavior in context and continues with the principl…
/r/MensRights10/03/18 05:23 PM
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I don't know who these anti-capitalists you speak of are and what they're doing to prevent men from getting help. In my experience, right leaning capitalists tend to have a horrendous track record at supporting social services for men. IMO, the real problem with feminists, is that they take attention away from these problems. Basically, anyone inclined to ensure that services be made freely available to those in need gets quickly seduced by feminism where they are "taught" that women, racial min…
/r/MensRights27/02/18 10:12 PM
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I think we have to be very careful with this type of question, and personally I think it's exactly this type of question that increases suicide rates. What's wrong with it? It puts responsibility on men. Instead of asking, does society fail at giving men spaces where they belong? You as do men struggle in finding a sense of belonging? I think part of why men commit suicide more successfully is because of the hyper agency imposed on them. If you try and commit suicide and fail as a man, you will …
/r/MensRights27/02/18 09:46 PM
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Feminism today is a religion, patriarchy theory is their equivalent of a god. So long as feminism believes in patriarchy theory as it exists today, I will be against it. If they manage to restructure patriarchy theory such that they cease to vilify men and hold them accountable for all of society's faults, and then furthermore genuinely try and fix social and legal problems that are specific to men then I will no longer be an anti-feminist. But I still won't join their religion, to me it would b…
/r/MensRights25/02/18 09:24 PM
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"She also has a question for the 61% of men who responded "yes" when asked if they believe in the wage gap: "Well, if you believe it's there, why are you not doing something about it?"" Translation: and for those men who failed this shit test. Here's another shit test to make sure you've properly stapled your balls to the floor.
/r/MensRights25/02/18 06:09 PM
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