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It’s more sustainable to not place that on a singular person. But to have a support system aka a community of loved ones that offer each other mutual kindness, care, support, thoughtfulness, and consideration. Yeah but that doesn't invalidate your romantic partner place in the healing process when it's reciprocal. Hot take? I think men seem to live a more “individualistic” life than women. Whether or not that’s because of nature or nurture, the reality is it seems to be the case. Individualism i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:07 PM
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It's individualism that's causing this issue you can even see in friendships. Heck sometimes I feel guilty for asking friends to help me out. I feel like I am the only one asking for help and I just think others don't really come to me for help because they are ashamed. Some guys do come to me for help sometimes but rarely. If you won’t listen and comfort your partner when they’re feeling bad, you don’t truly love them. Absolutely true 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:39 PM
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What does that entail though is what's my question
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:44 PM
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I said it already but as a guy I would feel weird if my girlfriend has a guy friend picking out her clothes and doing a face mask on her or something. But hey you do you I ain't judging just sharing my thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:43 PM
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Is it really, I know I would be weird if a guy was invested this much in preparing date for my girlfriend. Him picking out her clothes and such feels wierd
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:41 PM
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Q4W Where do you draw the line between sexual objectification or just sexual depiction in media?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:40 PM
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Why are you this invested in preparing your guy friend to date. Heck I was never this invested in preparing my guy friends for a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:38 PM
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Depends on the video game though, some things that we kill are brainless goons or they respawn back so you don't technically perma death them. The only exceptions are bosses but even they will respawn in new game plus
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:40 PM
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I have severe maladaptive daydreaming
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:36 PM
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I don't understand people who are so obsessed with being morally superior to others
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:38 PM
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The problem I see with any formalized education related to dating, the realities of divorce Couldn't the education system teach about divorce and how to break up? Also just because there is bias in teaching doesn't mean we shouldn't. America as a religious bias in teaching abstinence but that doesn't negate the need for sex ed. Many schools teach about birth control and such
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:13 PM
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Humans are not cars and romantic relationships are not needed while cars are needed to travel
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:09 PM
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OP what kind of person would actually believe women shouldn't have exit plan
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:07 PM
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I don't understand why this would be important to anti hook up people like me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:36 PM
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Yeah it's not worth going to be honest as someone who doesn't fit in with those crowds. Gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:34 PM
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Yeah but it's better if I delete so that I am restricted to comeback
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:32 PM
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Others don't want that kind of life style and its to stupid to moralize people like this
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:05 AM
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I don't want to erase the idea or something I just don't believe people need to be pressured into it. It's never a personal choice though. Choices don't exist in a vaccum. But I'm glad I have a choice to be monogamous and that people who don't want to be have a choice not to be. This is too much liberalism for me to handle ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:02 AM
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I regret going to parties, they were boring and I was awkward. I prefer the kick back instead. What's a black bodycon never heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:56 AM
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Well that's reddit for you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:11 AM
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And if someone is shaming you for not doing so then they aren't your friend The problem with your ideology it ignores these kinds of people which is not good. Poly people are do this often especially the ones I met. Being aware of it and accepting it's right for others doesn't force anyone and that's where I'm confused by how you think knowing of something means force into something. Who cares it's right for others I just don't want their culture to shape monogamous culture
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:13 AM
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I'm not speaking about isolationism. I'm speaking on expanding my life into leading many different lives and roles since I only get one so I can meet as many varied interesting people as possible. That's just nomadic lifestyle and not everyone one wants that life style there is a reason why humans stopped being nomadic and became agricultural
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:06 AM
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I don't even know man, I deleted my old account cause I wanted a break
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:59 AM
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Yeah man people should be exposed to Nazism. I judged your pfp seems like you are into this so called ethical non monogamy which could explain your knee jerk reposnse
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:58 AM
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In pop culture porn just means sexual depiction but in recent times it means the industry that exploit women and depict sex in an objectifying way.u
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:16 PM
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I think I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:11 PM
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I am not going to waste my time here so I will keep it short. Your ideology isn't special or unique it's just liberalism. To be more specific it hinges on consumerism and individualism. The need to shop and try out different products is consumerism. You seem to assert an individual freedom to do something is more important than having a community. If that is the case why are so many people lonely even though society is free and has many options. Making things easier doesn't mean less interesting…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:02 PM
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well you can send a message via pigeon, so don’t use a phone to communicate There is always sexual art, erotica, and imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:41 PM
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watching porn and fill that gap. Yeah but you don't need to watch porn to masturbate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:14 PM
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But wouldn't it be easier to live in a community of shares values or meet people in community of shared values
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 06:51 PM
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Also i explained it works as qe work perfectly and neither of us are looking for things we want outside the relationship coz we fit super well.. If it works for then it works for you but I genuinely think poly and open people should stay away from monogamous people .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 06:14 PM
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Fair point I suppose but how are you going to teach people about things that goes against their values when it comes to romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 06:12 PM
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nts and he doesnt want an open relationship anyways so it works perfectly for monogamy But you don't want open relationship? And i dont think poly has changed my veiw of monogamy coz i never was polly i was just in open relationship Bruh poly is open relationship My bf always been monogamous and i went with exactly what his comfort level is. I wouldn't date someone like you nor should people be pressured to date someone like you. Agreements are not enough for me we ought to have same identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 06:06 PM
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Why not exactly? I am just as likely to keep my word as anyone else? How can a polyamorous person tolerate being in a monogamous relationship that doesn't make sense to me. Okay, cool, but ive said nothing like that and the opposite in the fact that i am in a amonogomous relationship? Idk if ive worded something poorly here but i am not better than OP? You are in a monogamous relationship but you are still polyamorous and the ideology you have adopted from polyamory will influence your ideas of …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:48 PM
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Yeah the person doesn't want to cheat but they also want the other person to not cheat on them too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:45 PM
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Doesn't mean anyone should force you to believe that. Force as in law enforcement isnt going happen but what's more likely and more dangerous is people are going to pressure others by using shame and judgment. But knowing that exists just means more choices for everyone to mold the type of relationship they want People don't need to know it exist and sure knowledge doesn't force anyone to choose but people don't need to be forced to learn about them though either
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:44 PM
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I wasnt dictating shit my point is it is up to the two people in the relationship whats healthy for them? This doesn't erase the fact people with open boundaries often feel like they are superior to closed boundaries. And how people are pressured to open up or tolerate open relationships both are on the same page, thats what i feel is important. I am not sure being in same page is enough, a poly person dating monogamy even with agreed terms sounds like a bad idea to me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:41 PM
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I both I agree and disagree with you. Let me explain sexualfulfillment is different from sexual urges. Masturbation is not fulfilling as it's not sexy it only eased sexual urge but not desire. And you don't need porn, strippers or other forms of sexual exploitation to masturbate. Erotica and sexual art are better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:37 PM
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Sexual fulfillment is not same as sexual desires, masturbation is not sex and cannot be fufilling
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:32 PM
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Also i know im not within the normal thoughts of a monogamous person but i am also on a manogamous relationship I don't think that's fair for you to dictate definitions of monogamy since you are not a monogamous person but are in a monogamous relationship which is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:31 PM
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Let's say you restrict yourself but then you want a partner who also restricts themselves. You are not comfortable with people who don't restrict themselves. By that logic you do want to restrict the other person that's the ideal. The fact you care about their behavior shows this. If monogamy was about only restricting yourself you wouldn't be monogamous you'd be in a relationship where you restrict yourself and not the other person
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:28 PM
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Yes but that doesn't erase the fact people tend to moralize open boundaries over closed boundaries. In this comment. I have seen people spout out their open boundaries in a better light than closed ones to make them look superior. They say like I actually want my women to have sex toys I don't want to restrict her freedom and sexual autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:25 PM
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What's more interesting is to learn about how people develop their boundaries and preference over time and to see if there are any correlations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:21 PM
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For me, im pretty open, i want my partner to enjoy life, and if they want to try something, i would even be okay with them finding someone to get that sort of experience This is just showing us you are biased and ideology supporting said bias. I don't think your ideology should be applicable for monogamous relationship. I also believe mastorbating separately is healthy as it means there's never someone who really wants it and is totally unable to do anything if the other partner isn't in the moo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:19 PM
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That's not exactly what I am seeing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:15 PM
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disagree with your definition of monogamy, but that's personal thin You cannot disagree with my definition of monogamy it's literally the objective definition of monogamy. Don't give me the postmodernist shit about monogamy is subjective and specific to the individual. But other times masturbation is a great way to at least relieve some of the pressure. Two points here, you can masturbate without porn usage and masturbation doesn't not fulfill your sexual desires. It's like a snack instead of wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:04 PM
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Not really, though. If both people agree to monogamy then it’s not putting a restriction on the person That's literally putting restrictions though, you'd leave the other person if they have sex or romance outside of the relationship. But putting that deal breaker means you are putting an ultimatum and that puts pressure on someone. I am pro monogamy. I am arguing that people have right to have boundaries against porn in monogamous relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:58 PM
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You really can, I would denote porn is not same thing as erotica or sexual art
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:50 PM
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Monogamy, infidelity are very non-binary things. I argue it is binary because the simple definition is one sexual/romantic partner at a time. Swingers and the like are not monogamous by that definition. People can't cherry pick their definition since that will loose robustness of how we categorize things. I can't call a hyena a dog just because to me it looks like a dog. That's not how things work. So I'd say becoming the only sexual outlet for your partner is exactly the thing that might make s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:49 PM
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The comment sections hear is why the fear of monogamy disappearing is valid. A bunch of arguments here talk about how it's controlling people sexual autonomy which negates the idea of monogamous love
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:44 PM
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Not having sex but entertaining a plausibly deniable flirt sesh? If a partner said that to me I am dipping lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:41 PM
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But that's basically monogamy, it's putting restrictions on each other not chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:39 PM
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Could this help change outcomes for some men, yes, but there are much bigger fish in the sea to tackle to actually address that. I don't deny your calculations but what is this so called bigger fish I am not suggesting to use that principle to resolve the issue, the reason why I talked about the principal to illustrated how minority can cause big impact in society. Number of poly people might be small but they can greatly influence society. Historically polyamory was normal in tribal society of …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:02 AM
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Correct. And statistically speaking, clearly most folks aren't very good at it. Statistics doesn't exist in a vaccum but I guess people like you have hard time believing that. Yes. When you feel you've proven me wrong on this issue and have the evidence, please feel free to post it. I'll be happy to admit I was wrong. No hurry, of course. In the specific course I don't have evidence on me, I believe there are several factors that could influence how humans date but those factors are hard to chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:02 PM
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I think that's an overstatement. I'd say many monogamous folks don't plan on having the same partner forever. Further, many folks just don't place a high value on monogamy; they don't pedestalize sex. I'd argue a lot of modern dating problems begin with the notion that sex is some sort of purity indicator, as opposed to just an activity to be enjoyed between consenting adults You definitely have strong biased against monogamy or at least life long monogamy buddy Great. I'll be waiting to see how…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:39 PM
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My argument is that you can be exclusive without being committed. I interpreted the post as casual dating where you date multiple people at the same time. You can be exclusive with someone you are dating without being committed. I personally don't want to date multiple women at same time and I expect women to not date others while dating me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:04 PM
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Yes polyamory people can be committed but not exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:11 PM
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I understand what you mean but what I am trying to convey is that a small minority can accomplish big goals that can effect bigger population
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:01 PM
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I mean exclusivity and commitment are two different things though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:57 PM
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backwards at best or bigots at worst. I actually had a falling out with a friend over this BS. My God these people think they are morally superior than us and make us feel bad for wanting "old fashioned"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:25 PM
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The non avian dinosaurs were the majority but they are gone now. The majority never last long
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:23 PM
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But that's not the issue the issue is that pressure from normalizing this. Liberals are too stupid to understand that consent often doesn't exist in vaccum and there are societal pressures to get people to confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:21 PM
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I think they want it to be normalized, because people who are vile to those that complain about something often benefit from the things they are complaining about. This is something I have noticed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:19 PM
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You are beyond cruel why don't you learn some empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:18 PM
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Sharing partners" is basically FOMO if you really think about This is the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:15 PM
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I wish I could be one of those This is the issue is that people like you and me are pressured to confirm to their standards and values when it comes to dsting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:15 PM
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Why be judgmental, can you not handle people disagreeing with you on something like this. Not everyone is going to share your opinions on dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:13 PM
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Just because it's minority that doesn't mean things can't change. Minority of something can still cause change. Pareto principle, is the idea that 20% of causes are responsible for 80% of outc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:12 PM
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I think he is not talking about that either I think he is talking about casual dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:09 PM
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Good response
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:08 PM
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The folks that are ok with "sharing" (let's just call it non-monogamy) don't care what other folks think about it. And no amount of suggesting what they "should" do or shaming them is going to change it. The issue isn't them the issue is there style of dating becoming universal to monogamous people. Monogamous people are now to expect their partner dating or having sex with other people. Actually humans can change the world to meet their needs they and other animals as well. Animals change their…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:06 PM
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I find it strange
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:11 PM
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If a women is into Yaoi I am not dating her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:52 PM
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This sounds like one of those cringe articles that go like here are 5 things you do about something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 01:31 PM
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Hook up culture uses both feminist and red pill rhetoric to justify it's existence and continued it's hold onto people. That doesn't mean redpill or feminist are bad it just means hook up culture uses their rhetoric and beliefs. I am not for double standards myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:05 PM
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I don't know it's virtue signaling but they are definitely framing casual sex in a positive light. I guess they want to reassure that casual sex doesn't ruin their desire to want monogamy or make them settle down with less than attractive fellow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 01:22 AM
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What do you mean by personal finance?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:59 PM
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No I wouldn't get my son an escort as I believe the sex industry is vile
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:17 PM
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I personally don't think so I just think some women are too ingrained in individualism which allows them to adopt fringe ideas about romance. Sure the men who are indoctrinated in metaphysics can be bigoted but their bigotry comes from patriarchal social structure while the stupidity of women come from a knee jerk reaction to patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:07 PM
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Agreed but it's not fair to lump us with those men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:03 PM
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“ I’ve never run a successful business because it’s the customers who are wrong” Cough Starwars Acolyte Cough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:01 PM
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I agree with this and I love your flair sex negativity is awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:57 PM
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I had an ex bf that wanted me to be his therapist and it was very draining, to say the least. He had a lot of problems, and I did my best to fix them. But it was never enough, he still clung to his addictions and our relationship went south. Hurt people hurt people. I have trauma from that relationship. I advised him to get help so many times, but he didn't want to. Always made excuses. His behavior got worse. When we broke up I blocked his number, but he could leave me voicemails. He left me nu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:07 PM
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Yeah I agree fuck zone is worse and it happens to men as well. But the fuck zone is result of hook up culture where friendzone is natural. Friendzone isn't malicious it's just when a friend rejects you. I have been friendzoned but remained friends with her until we moved on our separate ways. But I firmly believe that the reason why we drifted apart is not because I asked her out just that we moved apart or had little common interests. In fact I don't have female friends anymore even the ones I …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:46 PM
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As a man I would love to support my women about hearing her trauma because I love her. I think women hate men using them as a therapist because it's not reciprocal. That's why I think psychology should be a mandatory course in high school
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:40 PM
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Maybe it's not that you are picking wrong it's that society fails to raise good men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:31 PM
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That's exactly what I have been noticing too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:19 PM
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For sure
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:21 AM
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Why defend the intentional homewreckers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:20 AM
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It's not a party it's an ideology that popped up during the enlightenment era by people like John Locke and John Stewart Mill. It's a metaphysical ideology that neglects the dialectic nature of the material world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:19 AM
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I am sorry you had to be in a relationship with that sociopath. I hope things get better for you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:13 AM
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Yeah because they are liberals not because they are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:12 AM
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I cooncide I made a mistake but Involuntary. Involuntary manslaughter is the killing of a human being without intent of doing so, either expressed or implied. It is distinguished from voluntary manslaughter by the absence of intention
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:58 AM
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It seems like you are defensive towards homewreckers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:56 AM
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When we talk about murder we usually assume murder is intentional because that's how we use murder in everyday language. That's why when we talk about accidental murder we use the word to denote if there was intentional or not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:34 AM
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This is a deflection because when I talk about homewreckers I am talking about the ones who know. It should be obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:26 AM
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That's what women say about anything that serves their current pursuit I would substitute women with liberals
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:09 AM
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They are both responsible for hurting someones feeling. I have seen cases where homewreckers make fun of the cheaters partner. I think that should amount to something. If we downplay homewreckers they will start to normalize their behavior. They could literally use "that's not my relationship" as a way to avoid taking responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:06 AM
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I disagree and it's stupid to say they have less responsibility. It takes two to tango
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:49 AM
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That's my thinking as well which is stupid, men have been homewreckers as well. I think people are cum brained in reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:30 AM
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I don't understand why people don't think homewreckers are equally as responsible as cheaters. Their scum humans who deserve more hate than they receive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:26 AM
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When you mean radical feminism are you talking about Andrea Dworkin kind or liberal feminist with stupid ideas. There is a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:50 PM
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Sometimes we go to conventions like anime ones but that's about it. No one in my friend group is really that interested in dating unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:20 PM
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It is but I ain't meeting women nor new people in general
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:01 PM
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Fuck those men, apathy is a pathology poisoning people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:01 PM
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I only hang out with my friends like 2-3 times a week but that's it. I don't meet new people at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:57 PM
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Neither does villianizing insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:24 PM
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I don't care about the people who write in here though? I never claimed our loneliness stems from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:48 PM
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Because women do, a lot actually Women don't talk about this issue they are too indoctrinated in liberalism to understand Blaming society takes the heat off of the people who have the ability to enact change Here is the liberalism I was waiting for. Why don't you actually read science instead of getting your ideas from a metaphysical ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:16 PM
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I don't expect women to fix this issue for men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:08 PM
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You implied all men don't want friends though. I don't see what other point you are making
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:00 PM
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Do you think our loneliness really just stem from not having a GF? You really want to make this about yourself don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:59 PM
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Men aren't a monolith lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:57 PM
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No it isn't though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:51 PM
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Who says I want to make women into those things
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:48 PM
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I don't, I am not one of those men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:38 PM
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So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:37 PM
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This just sounds like liberalism to me. A lot of liberals speak but no substance. Choice doesn't exist in vaccum like you liberals like to believe. Choice exist in the material world in which the material world shapes and influences choice. The whole point of society is to make things easier than individual. Of course individuals have responsibilities to participate in society that's how things work. Let's talk about alcoholism. Yes people make decisions to buy alcohol but to reduce addictions t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:37 PM
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Sure pal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:51 PM
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People who benefit from capitalism hate people who whine about loneliness. Capitalism is an economic system that is designed to make people lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:50 PM
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I respectfully disagree because even if you develop yourself that doesn't mean you will go out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:48 PM
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Communism that's the only viable answer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:15 PM
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Because people don't ever talk about building a social network and instead use work on yourself bro to shutdown meaningful conversations
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:13 PM
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You have to earn money to buy it, hunt it, procure it yourself. This only appeared because of private property. In tribal society concept of money didn't exist. People all participated in communal labor to reap the benefits of society. People are allowed to complain about issues they face. The only reason why you don't like people who complain is probably because you benefit some how from the thing they complain about. I live in a city where 3rd spaces are being taken down to make room for expen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:12 PM
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Not really, I bet a lot of men need strong support system but just are deluded to believe women will provide that same support system.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:05 PM
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This is stupid because humans depend on the existence of society to survive. Most people buy food that is raised and grown by farmers for example. Humans will help other humans out and you can't stop that. Loneliness isn't sadness it's specifically sad about not having adequate social network. So the solution is to develop that network not work on yourself bro
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:02 PM
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This just sounds like individualsm to me. Humans are empathetic animals no matter how much liberal speak you spout will not change that fact. There are plenty of women and men who are empathetic towards lonely men. As there are men empathetic towards lonely women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:59 PM
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It's not just a girlfriend, men want friends, family, and community
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:57 PM
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traditions lead the society to. Suicides, a lot of unpacked traumas, mental problems... This ignores the root cause of all this, the economic system.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:01 PM
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u/nightsofthesunkissed I have read some of the articles you posted. The one from the blog doesn't really prove that it's a scientific definition. It doesn't cite scientific sources in which psychologist define it as an actual disorder. Symptoms, such as low self-esteem, envy, and excessive perfectionism, can interfere with a person's ability to enjoy healthy relationships and reach their full potential. They don't really define what excessive perfectionism means or what low self esteem and envy …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:17 AM
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What is anti miscegenation?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:43 AM
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At least the ones who matter Why put down the men who care but don't insult women who are promiscuous. I have met women who prefer low count men are they also people who don't matter. People should not be judged based on their personal preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:41 AM
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If you don't like monogamy then don't date monogamous people. But people still criticize and analyze monogamy. If people are allowed to criticize monogamy then we are allowed to criticize hook up culture. Everything is subjected to criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:40 AM
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Women aren't entitled to an orgasm No one is entitled to orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:37 AM
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Well for starters, it's also known as 'Rebecca Syndrome'. Is that a scientific terminology though, do you have sources? It's a pathological response, so it can I noticed an important word in that sentence "can". It doesnt mean it will always will. Anxiety, Anger, and even joy can cause maladaptive behavior correct? But should we demonize these emotions just because they could possibly cause harm? Men have killed women for cheating. We can all agree that the man who murdered his cheating wife sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:34 AM
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Do you care how many guys a girl has held hands with? Kissed? Once upon a time, people cared. Judge people for who they are. The past may inform that, but the important thing is who they are now I don't know why these men frame this as body count but in reality for me and other men it's about having casual attitude towards sex and following hook up ideology. It is important to accept people who they are I agree people make mistakes. But the thing is there is a difference between women who had ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:29 AM
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It's unfair to call men with preferences incompetent lovers. But I agree we aren't entitled to girlfriends and I don't care nor am I going to villianize women who use sex toys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:20 AM
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No it's about us not sharing the same attitude towards sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:19 AM
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between a guy who cares for cultural reasons vs. a guy who's insecure. What's wrong with guys being insecure? I have seen women in reddit say they feel insecure when their man flirt with other girls, use onlyfans, or complimenting other women besides their own partner. Are these women evil for having insecurities. I
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:17 AM
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They just want to feel morally superior because they have not done anything good for this world other than perform activism on Twitter or reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:13 AM
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This is going to be fun But otherwise, it's just retroactive jealousy with cute wrapping paper on it. What's wrong with retroactive jealousy? You'd rather suffer through toothy blowjobs and lackluster handjobs with inconsistent pacing and passive grip if it means you're not going to be laying there thinking about her past sex life Number of partners doesnt mean they are better at sex. Women with low n count can have way more sex than women who have casual sex and can learn to be better with a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:12 AM
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If that's the case would say same thing as someone who cheated in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:07 AM
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https://www.ranker.com/list/love-and-relationships-in-aztec-empire/katia-kleyman https://pressbooks.claremont.edu/clas112pomonavalentine/chapter/sandra-joshel-2002-the-female-body-and-the-body-politic-livys-lucretia-and-verginia-in-amy-richlin-ed-pornography-and-representation-in-greece-and-rome/ It's hard to find sources on sexuality of these cultures for some reason NGL. Damn this pathetic search engine
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:05 AM
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Exactly 💯 but it's to be expected from brain dead redditors
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:49 AM
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Nope, that’s a social contract. Social contracts don't exist in a vaccum, there is a reason why that happens. Women aren't entitled to an orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:45 AM
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Your other points don’t apply to me as I have no interest in casual sex and no opinion on what other consenting people do with their own bodies. Yeah but here we can see you are deflective towards any criticism of casual sex because you said I have no opinion of what two consensual adults do. You could apply this argument to people who try to criticize monogamy. And it’s not selfish to ditch a man who is threatened by a woman’s sexual pleasure. I never said a women is selfish for leaving a man f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:16 AM
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I'd be down with that if it's with a committed romantic partner
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:01 AM
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Nope, we don’t agree. Taking away a woman’s means of getting off so she winds up frustrated after you get yours is emotionally abusive I don't understand why you can't understand what I mean. Men don't need or want to take away sex toys from women. We want to find women who don't already use sex toys. But if I fell in love with an inept man, or a man with PE, or a man who couldn’t get an erection or ejaculate for whatever medical reason and he denied my orgasm, too Just find someone who is okay …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:59 AM
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Then we are in agreement then
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:39 AM
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Or he could get his shit together and get better in bed. What's wrong with breaking up with women who are sexually incompatibility with you. Painted yourself into a corner here. If sex isn’t gratifying for her and you take away her means of pleasure, why should she do anything at all? If sex isn't gratifying to her she could just break up. Or she could communicate her sexual needs with her man. Also you didn't respond to my other points
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:30 AM
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Exactly this is what I believe as well, I believe our values regarding sex come from socialization as opposed to muh human nature. In another words humans aren't meant to be promiscuous
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:24 AM
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You can take her vibrator, but you can’t take her showerhead or her electric toothbrush It's not about taking things from her it's about finding a women who doesn't want to use sex toys. If she feels like she needs to use toys then she should break up. Frame it however you like, but for women, it’s about sexual competence. If he sucks in bed, the fruit will wither and die on the vine. As it should. Sex isn't just for men. I have heard progressive argue about the orgasm gap and how men expecting …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:13 AM
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Well I kind of disagree with you, my friend grew up playing Skyrim and now he joined sword fighting club and fights people with swords. I fought him with swords and he definitely was not holding back. We had to wear armor. As a kid I fought people with lightsabers. After playing legend of Zelda I wanted to solve puzzles so I tried escape rooms and found them to be fun. Fantasies might not exactly reflect real life desires but they do influence real life desires in some way
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:57 PM
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Finally someone who accepts human behavior is shaped by environmental and cultural factors
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:52 PM
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Because he’s wildly insecure and terrified of female sexuality, Why do you think this is invalid fear and why demonize insecurities? Even women get insecure when their man follows insta models. You mention about men fearing sex toys or something but my objection is that man are entitled to have that boundary. To me it's just matter of sexual incompatibility as opposed to a moral failed presented by modern feminist. You can look at it as controlling women but to me it's about sexual compatibility…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:49 PM
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Fiction is inspired from reality in some way or manner. Fiction of course isn't reality but rather is inspired by reality. For example SpongeBob isn't real but a bunch of characters are inspired by real life sea species
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:21 PM
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This is an issue with media that is trying to present itself as an educational piece such as sex at dawn
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:36 PM
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I am asking how do people learn to value sex in a certain way?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:34 PM
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I don't think eradication of paternal certainty is a socialist thing per say but Fredrick Engles did write about those that concept existing in what he calls primitive communist societies in which modern socialist tend to idealized. Look at books such as sex at dawn which essentially argue that in a post patriarchal society paternal certainty and monogamy might not exist since those concepts were tied to private property. Alexandera Kollantai wrote about romance under socialism in which she idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:07 PM
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those societies weren't capitalist, where partnering for life has a huge financial benefit But those societies didn't believe romance can last life long so why should we idolize that or want that for modern society. those societies predated grooming to make people believe in romantic love at the expense of what is actually best for them What does this mean for the concept of romance in a post patriarchal society
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:54 PM
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I asked women a question whether they want to live in society a or society b and many women choose society a which I found surprising. To sum up society a is where life monogamy is the norm and the concept of biological fatherhood is important and society b is society where casual sex is norm and women don't know the father of their child is the norm. So my question is why to feminist and socialist tend to romanticize tribal societies like mosua in which biological father as a concept doesn't ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:28 PM
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Men in love are also blind to red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:17 PM
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So how does someone value sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:47 PM
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Couldn't you argue that the reason why some people, some women don't engage in casual sex because of patriarchal indoctrination
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:32 PM
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Is it human nature? Is casual sex something that all humans need to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:18 PM
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Again you are not answering the question
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:03 PM
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It logically makes sense since you aren't really answering my question. The first answer you gave was about how there is biological drive for you to want kids but you don't want kids which is a weird way to answer my question. Your second response you didn't say yes or no and said people should do what they want which again doesn't answer my question. If I asked if people should have casual sex or not then that would be an acceptable answer but that wasn't my question
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:52 PM
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I just think you are dodging my question
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:47 PM
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This just tells me you believe promiscuity is genetic or human nature and just avoiding answering that question directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:34 PM
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They don't need to pay me for me to speak the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:13 PM
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I disagree because I believe men can trust their partners not to cheat. I don't want to live in a world where I need to get paternity test I want to live in a world where my woman enthusiastically wants to have my babies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:12 PM
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I am just asking is it something you would believe or want to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:09 PM
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Nofap people don't this, they don't think sex is a sin or even masturbation. They believe that addiction to masturbation is a problem which is something I agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:05 PM
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If there is anything I envy about religious communities it's this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:03 PM
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But would be the one to adopt that view though?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:01 PM
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So you think women can't be trusted to give birth to her partners baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:01 PM
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they can be as cautious as they want to 🤷‍♀️ that's their right but i dont feel offended or annoyed or anything about it. That's good at least i dont care about paternity as it So if a man gets into paternity fraud you have no empathy for him. If so if a women gets cheated on by a man you wouldn't care?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:00 PM
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I've had casual sex. It was neither good nor bad, just something I did when the opportunity presented itself. I am not talking about you I am more so asking if you believe humans are meant to be promiscuous. Like is it genetically programmed into us?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:32 PM
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Society B could be seen as tribal societies like the mosuo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:31 PM
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But are women biological and evolutionarily inclined to have casual sex? Most women I know have never had casual sex because it goes against their religion/morals, so they've never even considered it. Should dese women have casual sex? Also is religion and morals the only reason why these women won't have casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:28 PM
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QW: Which Society would you rather live in society A or Society B. Both society are egalitarian in which men are raised to be good men going by feminist definition of what it means to be good. Now I will explain the difference. Society A: Is a monogamous society in which biological fatherhood is emphasizes and monogamy is meant to be life long. People can still leave a relationship in which they feel unsatisfied. Sex and Romance are coupled in which sex only occurs in romantic relationships. Soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:25 PM
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So do you believe everyone women should experience casual sex or they would inevitably regret not having casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:15 PM
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I want to ask women a hypothetical question if they want to live in society a or society b but automod thinks it's a shit post smh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:03 PM
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I wonder what post
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:02 PM
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That's like saying I am apathetic towards cheating because I won't cheat. It doesn't make sense because people who don't cheat care about cheating as they value loyalty and infidelity. This isn't about paternity tests it's about women wanting to give birth to her husband's kid as opposed to not caring about the paternity of kids
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:41 PM
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But this is not about paternity tests though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:38 PM
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I wish the allpill subreddit is still around
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:24 PM
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My post isn't even up and it isn't about paternity test. The issue is that women like you are becoming apathetic towards the concept of biological fatherhood. For us men we find the idea of creating life with another person romantic and we expect our romantic partner to value this as much as we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:23 PM
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How does the mod even work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:12 PM
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It's pretty obvious in that it's meant to gauge what women value
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:03 PM
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I did but the it got automoded 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:02 PM
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It's not about mandatory paternity test it's more interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:00 PM
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I want to make a post about paternal certainty to get an idea what people really value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:45 PM
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would you rather be average in an average relationship with an average woman The first obviously I am a romantic so I only want romance not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:36 PM
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That's what it USED to be. Apparently now it includes your friend being manipulative and trying to keep you single I don't think so maybe to some few entitled men but not for all men or all traditional men. I do hate it when I sound like a feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:17 PM
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I didn't argue that my argument is for society to raise better men. Unless you think things can't change
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:02 PM
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I will give you my two cents on the matter. Friendzone is just a friend rejecting your romantic pursuit. I think people are valid for feeling hurt by this and aren't morally inferior
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:00 PM
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This is an intelligent take I agree with wow
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:54 PM
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I am not trying to invalidate fears that women have by any means but I want to point out all these are news articles that women consume. Their fear or distrust of men come from media and experiences. Men also have legitimacy to fear or at least distrust women from their experience and media they consume. I had bad experiences with women which I am not comfortable sharing with in detail and I have interacted with women who cheated on their boyfriend. My question is that is women's responsibility …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:52 PM
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I am confused at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:32 AM
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Are you sure you are replying to the right person?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:31 AM
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Yo no need for name calling man chill. Epigenetics disproves idea that genes are solely responsible for behavior and some phenotypical traits. Environment plays a greater role than much genes. https://developingchild.harvard.edu/resources/what-is-epigenetics-and-how-does-it-relate-to-child-development/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CEpigenetics%E2%80%9D%20is%20an%20emerging%20area,is%20no%20longer%20a%20debate. https://www.scielo.br/j/hcsm/a/NQrjZTQgFr4QtYZvBzDh9ct/#:~:text=As%20Medawar%20and%20Medawar%20(198…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:25 AM
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Good advice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:49 AM
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Genetic determinism is idealist bullshit which has no basis in reality. Epigenetics disproves genetic determinism
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:46 AM
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Bro get your mind away from genetic determinism
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:30 AM
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I see cheating as a problem for mono normies because it involves betrayal and lying in a relationship. To me it seems like you are back peddling, you said you personally don't see cheating as a problem above. As I have said before I don't believe cheating is gendered but your response to me wanting a thoughtful discussion about cheating as a complex sociological problem is quite telling given that you are relationship anarchist. To me it seems like you have an agenda you are trying to peddle abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:23 AM
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This is exactly what I am talking about, you people do not see cheating as a problem is what's the problem. You have political agenda here and you came here pretending not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:09 AM
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I fully agree women and men are socially conditioned to a promiscuous life style. People tend to downplay how much environment affects our behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:07 AM
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Cheating is interesting. Cheating is harmful. Cheating is a human thing. It's worth talking about and thinking about. But gendering it doesn't help actually look at it. I agree but my point is even if women cheat more would liberals start downplaying cheating due to protecting women. Let's say men cheat more than women then I could see the argument that it's patriarchy that cause men to cheat more so the solution would be to combat patriarchy instead of villifying men. What you mean by cheating …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:03 AM
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That doesn't answer my question though. To be clear I don't think cheating is gendered but I am curious even if it is what does that actually entail to cause people to be emotional about in the comment section
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:45 AM
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Let's say that men do cheat more than women so what, what does it mean and is there way to reduce the numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:35 AM
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This is not cheating though? If you "take a break" from your relationship, then you're not in a relationship. That's just literally what words mean. You might get together again or you might not I thought there was a difference between a break up vs break. Also to me if a person immediately has casual sex after the so called break seems suspicious to me Same deal as the first - this isn't "redefining cheating," it's giving context or trying to excuse it. If I steal from a store and get caught, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:34 AM
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I am not sure what your argument is about
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:27 AM
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Even if women cheat more what does it matter to liberals?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:27 AM
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I think liberals in general want to muddy the definition of cheating to get away with it as opposed to it being a liberal thing. For example a women can say her man is cheating on her by looking at Instagram girls while the liberal boyfriend can argue that it's not cheating because nothing physical happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:17 AM
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I don't think cheating is gender but I thinks it's more important to discuss how can we reduce cheating and analyze cheating from a sociological perspective as opposed to an individualistic perspective most bluepillers cling onto.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:02 AM
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This is why I don't like redpill it's the reactionary front of hook up culture while sex positivity is the progressive front of hook up culture
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:45 AM
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That insecurities and jealousy aren't evil emotions and people have right to these feelings regardless of gender
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:10 AM
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what i dont believe is that they have anything to do with worth or that they are as universal or timeless as others insist they are So why even rate your partner like that in first place, it's hurtful thing to do. no not at all So what do you think women should settle?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:58 PM
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but if i am asked where i think someone matches up against existing beauty standards, i dont see answering as "supporting beauty standards Yeah you are because you are giving him a rating. If you don't believe there is objective beauty standards why even rate your boyfriend like that. Why even be with someone you don't find him that attractive. Isn't the point of feminism to tell women to not settle for less?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:00 PM
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i mean you can be against war and still acknowledge war exists Just because you acknowledge that war exist doesn't mean you have to support a war. Before you say some wars are justified is there any reason why objective beauty standards determining worth of individuals would be justified?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:54 PM
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like there is knowledge that beauty standards exist and where a person may fall on that hierarchy (which is bullshit to have a hierarchy in the first place, this hasn't always been the case), and then there's your personal preferences, and then when you fall for someone attraction skyrockets in a subjective way People who I thought would be against beauty standards go on to claim they exist and he should be grateful to be called a six what was being framed as progressive here People who judged h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:48 PM
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It was on a dating subreddit where a man asked his gf what were his looks like and she gave him a six while he said she is a ten. They were vile towards op and accusing him of shit testing when in reality he just wanted to know what she thought about him. He was wrong about going about dealing with his insecurities but that doesn't make him malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:27 PM
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Yeah especially to frame it as progressive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:17 PM
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Yes you should
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:16 PM
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It means you are gay lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:11 PM
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I thought he meant men getting stuck in a relationship where women don't find him that attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:11 PM
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It is but many women judge men for leaving that kind of relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:09 PM
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It means you are gay
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:08 PM
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Yeah I definitely believe that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:38 PM
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Or wrecked homes at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:19 PM
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Yeah I noticed that to specifically from people who worship ideas from sex at dawn
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:18 PM
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Yeah I have noticed that too as well. It's like home weekend and people who defend them argue that home workers didn't make the vow to cheat or what ever. It's sickening
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:58 PM
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I don't know who that is but man society is becoming obnoxious by romanticizing cheating and home wrecking. I have seen Japanese interviews where women are ok with cheating. My coworker talks about wanting to fuck other man while being married and pregnant. It's concerning especially when people are framing things as sexual autonomy against patriarchy or what ever
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:52 PM
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So what if you have personal didn't see it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:48 PM
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Does are the most dangerous ones
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:46 PM
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Why does it feel like people on reddit are defensive towards homewreckers and permissive towards cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:41 PM
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