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no it was someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:45 AM
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yeah I believe so to as well lets hope we give the new generations the tools they need to build healthier relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:57 PM
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I really hope the person you are dating doesn't turn into an asshole you deserve better. It really sucks you were with assholes earlier. I really wish can just change for the better
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:41 PM
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We analytical types look at the world through systems rather than an individual choice or one's ability to do something. For example, let's say a factory produces a red ball, but suddenly it starts to produce green balls. People say thats no big deal. Its just tiny amount of green balls. Some people go on and defend the ball's ability to be green without judgment. This is all cool and all. This all takes place in mainstream society. Normal people don't care about the factory where the balls are …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:25 PM
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I don't feel like I want to continue this conversation anymore. I don't think you people will ever understand where we come from
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:00 PM
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I apologize my intention was not to get women to have casual sex I just wanted to point out the men also are affected negatively from casual sex as well not just women. I agree with your message overall though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:58 PM
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Thats what I mean, people say stuff like you need to explore so don't get attached or something like that. I don't feel the need to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:41 PM
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I disagree with you when you say men only benefit from casual sex, since, yes in some cases, they do benefit from it, but some studies show that men experience post-coital dysphoria after having sex. Some men do go into these situations hoping for a relationship. But I agree with you on the oxytocin thing I have done some reading on that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:39 PM
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Is religion the only thing holding you back from casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:33 PM
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I have heard and read people say those things from my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:30 PM
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You know we are all entitled to our beliefs and I respect yours
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:00 PM
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Thats fair, but I believe sex has to be romantic, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:54 PM
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Is it because of choice or no opportunity? Because you mentioned, you would have an fwb if given the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:39 PM
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I am saying could atheists also view exclusively view sex as a romantic activity like religious people does. Or do people need a religious background to have the same view?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:37 PM
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I have met people who say young people are incapable of having committed relationships. Just because you have not experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:33 PM
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Yeah, I can make another post
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:29 PM
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No, it's about cultural norms. If you say it's none of my business of what two consenting adults do, then why do feminists critique marriage and amatonormativity then.If they are allowed to do it then we should be allowed to critique hookup-culture and deconstruct it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:28 PM
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This post is not for you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:25 PM
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What do you hope to accomplish here to help me improve myself? I am already improving myself, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:24 PM
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hookup culture is not the same as an individual having sex though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:20 PM
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I am sorry I think I have deleted the post because the mods said I need to change the flair
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:07 PM
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Hook-up culture is not individuals having casual sex its cultural norms
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:04 PM
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fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:00 PM
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casual sex is not the same thing as being gay lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:56 AM
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Thank you for sharing your story. I appreciate it. I am sorry you had to experience those shitty situations, especially with the stalker.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:30 AM
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Look man thank you for trying to help me but nothing you say has an effect on me. I know what I am doing I can take care of myself with your advice or those trying make me cope with promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:24 AM
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No, I am the same way, but I don't think it came naturally, or at least it didn't come from a vacuum, in my opinion, which doesn't make it bad at all. We grew up with this idea from social conditioning. But that is just my opinion, though. Thank you for sharing your perpective
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:16 AM
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Yeah I know about this study but like still people in here warped my view on it, logic isn't going to win here my friend. Only emotional processing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:01 AM
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yeah but they are so defensive though like they say I am not against hook up culture. Like why say that I don't think its needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:00 AM
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I don't mean to moralize casual sex but examine the socio and economic factors of hookup culture. Like from a sociological perspective. I asked people in here before about my theories and it makes sense. For example I believe that in tighter communities people fall in love faster and move faster and have an easier time trusting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:57 AM
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They are not just opinions but opinions presented as facts, even if it's not the norm. Who says it won't be in the future? Even if I created a boogey man, the women here validate my fears. Where are the women who share my values and believes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:47 AM
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My problem with culture now is that people don't understand choices or motivations. Not just the consequence but the social and economic factors that shaped your choice. I don't believe choices exist in a vacuum. I personally believe hookup culture can go away under certain conditions
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:44 AM
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I have theories about hookup culture personally and relationship structures. I made a previous post about how I think social and economic factors produce hook-up culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:39 AM
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When I mean hook-up culture I don't mean other people engaging in casual sex but rather the norms that are expected of people like the belief young people can't love, or that people need sexual variety, or that relationships are prisons so have fun while you can
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:32 AM
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So you would say the coupling of sex and romance can exist outside of a religious binding?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:29 AM
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What made you have those principals or like how did you come to acquire those values?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:14 AM
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Why are you not against it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:12 AM
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I cannot control society by myself but I am allowed to be upset but some of the things in society though. Are you assuming I cannot change or that I am not in the process of changing? I am working out, working on my worldbuilding project, just got a job recently, reading some books recently, and started a community for meetups irl (it's slow but I hope to make it more active). How do you know most women don't engage in hookup culture
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:11 AM
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I don't think I have said anything too wrong all I pointed out is my frustrations with rhetoric like you said. I am not pushing should on others, as I don't go up to strangers and tell them they shouldn't have sex. It's not a number, but its casual sex makes it harder to see sex as a romantic gesture. People I have met who had casual sex have a hard time seeing sex as romantic or emotional. I see it as a problem because I want to be with women who don't do casual sex and believes in the coupling…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:27 AM
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Yeah but I believe sex should only exist within a relationship, and I want a potential partner to have that same belief. I am tired of people like you trying to get us men adapted to promiscuous women. Be promiscuous if you want, but don't expect principled romantics like me to date you. I have had women tell me what she is experiencing. Think about the excitement of her teaching you stuff. This kind of comment only makes our anxiety and insecurities worse it does not help. For me it makes me th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:45 AM
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As a man, I am an old-fashioned romantic and would fall in love faster than the average man, maybe because I lived under a rock my entire life and never fell into the mainstream culture of dating and sex. I live by my own rules, and my feelings work differently. The thought of getting a commitment from a woman excites me. Honestly I believe dating discussions should not be man vs women but about issues with modern dating norms and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:52 AM
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Sex might not be romance, but romance and sex are highly correlated as straight people get into romantic relationships with people they are sexually attracted to. It does require emotion and feelings, people in friends with benefits repeatedly argue there are feelings involved, just not what they call romantic feelings. Sex by itself isn't romantic but it releases neurochemicals very similar to ones that occurs in romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 11:18 PM
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No I am not interested, sex for me is only reserved for committed romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:35 PM
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I get what you are saying now; thank you for your advice I appreciate it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:35 PM
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Thank you for your advice. I appreciate it. What you are saying is replacing bad habits with good habits. Worldbuilding is something I want to spend more time with. Also, learning to code has kept me occupied too. Yeah, people on the internet are cruel, regardless of their political beliefs. I have only one friend who I can be sincere with the rest are just for fun buddies. I need more emotional friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:20 PM
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What makes romantic relationships different from platonic relationships objectively? Women complain about toxic romantic relationships as well. If you say romantic feelings how do you define romantic feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:04 PM
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Yeah, this subs is not healthy for me, and I do believe I am addicted to this kind of content, sadly. I don't know why I am so addicted to this content and not other OCD themes. It's easier to read about these topics than others, sadly. I love world-building, but it's hard to focus and read that sub. I read from an OCD post that they also seek out content that validates their fears and anger, which I do as well. Thank you for validating my struggles as others have insulted and mocked me when I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:14 AM
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I have fear women are loosing desire for romantic relationship because of my OCD so its refreshing to here contradictory things to my fear as opposed to things that validate it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:44 AM
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I think male violence, in general is making women desire romance less and in favor of casual sex. Its more complicated than that but male violence and toxic masculinity is most likely responsible for our atomization and alienation problem. But I do think cultural factors are required for monogamy to exist and flourish. When I mean cultural factors, I am talking about media, parenting, peers, philosophy, and festivals. This is not a malicious thing, mind you, it's just how humans work, we are soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:23 AM
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We don't need to appeal to nature to defend monogamy, as appealing to nature is problematic. People can use appeal to nature to defend horrible things such as cannibalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:03 AM
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Thank you for that lovely answer it's reassuring to know women wanting monogamy can exist independently from finance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:58 AM
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How do you define romance, though, then? I believe romance is a social construction and not a separate entity that you can objectively define. If that is said the case, then society can define it as romance how ever it sees fit. I am not saying individuals can define romance willy-nilly just that how we define romance changes over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:51 AM
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Is sex, not a romantic act? Science has proven when people have sex, they produce hormones that increase attachment and other positive emotions. If sex is not romantic, how come lip kissing and other romantically coded behavior remain romantic but sex isn't. Plus I don't think you have read my post because I kind of explain my reasoning in my post. If that still doesn't answer your question then ask me again I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:47 AM
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But wouldn't that be a fling?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:18 AM
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But romantic relationships are more than just commitment and exclusive, open relationships are not exclusive and flings don't have commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:17 AM
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yeah I do men have been reported experiencing post-coital dysphoria
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:25 PM
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Yeah exactly this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:24 PM
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You are not really responding to my post and instead projecting your personal opinion as this is not about the ethics of friends with benefits but rather a critique of the label
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:15 PM
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yeah you make good points here actually with the issues of fwb
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:43 PM
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Again intimacy can occur in friendships and family
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:34 PM
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But deep emotional connection can be found in family and platonic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:13 PM
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what are romantic feelings can you actually define them objectively?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:06 PM
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But limerence is short-lived, though, and limerence is the romantic feelings. Romance is more complex than we like to think, as it has multiple facets to it from physical gestures to neurochemicals
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:50 PM
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I thought most people engage in friends with benefits maybe I am wrong, but I would love to learn about its stats. Yeah you do make good points on people not caring about it and people preferring regular than new hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:36 PM
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You do make some good points here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:06 PM
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You do make good points, but I do want to say people in fwb do romantic things together
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:50 PM
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If those are the only options why would anyone pursue them as they don't seem to have benefits in the long run? I understand people are fixed in the now but I think the future should be considered more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:47 PM
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Flings are typically don't have the commitment and romantic feelings are complex in that sometimes its not easy to identify what they are precisely. Limerence tends to be considered romantic feelings but it does not last for a long time so then what are these relationships not considered romantic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:44 PM
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I argue that romantic feelings are unnecessary for a relationship to be considered romantic. Romantic relationships are more complex than simple brain chemicals they are also a social construct
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:42 PM
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It might just be people online cause I noticed this behavior mostly in online communities. I have not met any feminists in real life, so I am unsure what they like. It's nice to meet another principally romantic person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:15 PM
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It's just that when I critique those things, they become defensive and take things personally, which I don't get because social movements are meant to be critiqued and grow. I understand men want to destroy feminism as a whole, and those people definitely argue in bad faith, but I don't argue in bad faith. I want to share my concerns and protect the values I cherish. Thank you for seeing my point OP :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:13 PM
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I think feminism generally pushed men to be more involved in childcare and domestic duties, which is good. My problem with feminism is their fixation on divorce and the defense of hook-up culture. Feminists are more interested in breaking up unhealthy relationships than producing stable, healthy relationships. They don't see the length of a relationship as a virtue in healthy relationships. They are reluctant to critique hook-up culture in a meaningful way. They critique fuckboy behavior from me…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:59 PM
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Yeah, I know exactly what you mean by the Hollywood thing. But I have also seen it in online communities
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 07:31 PM
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I am worried about this phenomenon of normalizing cheating and complacently of cheating. I see this from men with evopsych and from feminist too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:47 PM
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Justifying criminal behavior is extreme but what about situations like cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:40 PM
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But the issue is that girls are not in charge of current dating norms and rules, and neither are men. The current dating norms and conditions are entirely shaped by our environment, specifically social and economic factors. The breakdown of families, communities, social unrest, poverty, financial crisis, careerism, hyper-competition, consumerism, egoism, and narcissism. These factors must not be left out when analyzing our current dating culture from a holistic approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:30 PM
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I am guilty of that because I don't interact with people irl to much sadly I wish I can go out more
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:34 AM
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To me, this is a defeatist attitude by complying with modern dating norms, you are submitting to hookup culture. Are you just going to let the enemy win here, conforming to their norms, or are you going to man up and stick to your principals that were passed down by generation?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:30 AM
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I am struggling to find that one article in which a woman talks about her sexual past and how she had a bad experience with it. But the problem is that hook-up culture norms are normalized for everyone. Like how I hear people tell others you need sexual variety when you are young or you will regret it. This puts pressure onto people to find multiple sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:00 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:34 PM
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It's just that I feel like most people don't realize or downplay how much culture and environment impact our attitude toward sex and relationship. Our society is becoming more atomized to the point where romantic and platonic relationships are seen as disposable while our careers center our lives. I agree it's not a direct comparison, but it could offer some insight. I believe hook-up culture is the by-product of current economic and social factors that puts too much stress on individuals. You d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:34 PM
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Should I change the flair to CMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:24 PM
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A culture that encourages casual sex outside the romantic relationship) in a variety of ways. My critique is that it pressures people who don't want to engage in hook-up culture. https://www.issm.info/sexual-health-qa/what-is-postcoital-dysphoria-post-sex-blues/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30040588/ https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-3-319-16999-6_217-1 https://www.apa.org/monitor/2013/02/ce-corner
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:23 PM
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I thought CMV required me to have statistical evidence, which I do not have, this is just my speculation as I have mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:07 PM
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I am not precisely a Jordon Peterson fan, but people being this vile to him is uncalled for. I don't think he is as bad as other right-wing commentators. Bullies are bullies no matter what politics they ascribe to. Leftist need to acknowledge this but are reluncted to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:42 PM
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Gender norms in terms of fashion are not that bad thing the issue is the exploitation of women rather than the gender norms themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:57 AM
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I don't know why people neglect the environment and how it impacts dating norms and relationship structure, and longevity. I wish there was more investigation on this topic and discussion around this in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:00 PM
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I believe it is a mixture of nature and nurture, although I believe nurture is the principal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:52 PM
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Interesting what social and environmental factors do you think led to these different life styles
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:44 PM
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yeah in hs or in college its much easier since you are in same age group as your class mates
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:59 AM
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That is your personal opinion, not objective fact, though, right? I would be more comfortable living in a homogenous community. homogenous communities can be diverse maybe not as diverse as the community you live but not everyone needs that level of diversity
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:50 AM
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I don't think it's worth it to live in those communities This comment made me assume you were talking about religious communities. Why do you think tight-kit communities are not worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:32 AM
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Yeah, this was my suspicion of tight-knit communities. Why do you think tight-knit community folks fall in love faster? My thought process is that you have someone more likely to share your values, beliefs, and goals will make people fall in love faster. Thank you for getting back to me. My theories seem more plausible the more I speak to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:29 AM
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I made a typo, but I am saying a tight-knit community does not have to be religious to yield similar results.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:49 AM
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Tight Knit communities don't have to be religious, I bet if there are tight knight secular communities we will see similar results
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:30 AM
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Yeah, but people in more atomized and alienated communities expect their gender norms onto others. They make fun of people getting married early, wanting commitment early, etc... They project their life experience for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:47 AM
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I forgot to mention maybe stigma is less effective towards younger generation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:08 AM
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people will dismiss this and say muh stigma, but I think this study has merit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:00 AM
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I agree. People tend to overlook environmental factors when it comes to dating and hyper-fixate biological and psychological factors independent of the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:57 AM
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I am talking about a tight-knit community that religious communities could follow, but how do we know the stigma of divorce is the leading cause of low divorce rates in religious communities? Other religious communities like Buddhism have no stigma of divorce. Islam permits divorce, but it's not laudable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:55 AM
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I value sex as an exclusively romantic act. I would want a romantic partner who shares this value with me. It shows she strongly desires romance like me and does not let FOMO control her life. If she had sex in a committed relationship, I don't mind, personally. I have been thinking about making a post similar to windmill who made post about hook up culture and feminism which was interesting post as I care more about hook up culture impacting people like me than I do about a girl's body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:24 PM
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It's impossible to avoid regret; regret is natural in the sense there is no problem with having regrets. Regrets function as a learning mechanism to avoid people from doing the same thing again. Giving something more power means you ruminate over it. For example, if I give power to my fear of germs, I may never leave my house. Plus, you can regret about like what if I dated him instead of him? But again you do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:43 PM
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Tinder and all dating apps have one problem they are for-profit businesses. They are here to make money first. They will lose revenue if dating apps work. Two, it has to do with the character of people. If people were raised with good morals then we wouldn't be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:18 PM
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With a post like this, you will get biased responses from women defending women. B. A post like this is not beneficial, and it's very atomized. It reduces the phenomena to preferences. A user who goes by Windmill made a more thought-provoking post that is related to this, but her commentators were calm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:07 PM
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I believe you are confusing me for the OP I searched up that comment and OP was the one who responded
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:02 PM
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I am sorry I don't remember saying that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:55 PM
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What if is only powerful if you let it be powerful
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:48 PM
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I never spoke to you till now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:36 PM
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I can throw this back at you why do you need to reduce the value of sex to simple pleasure? Are you a robot?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:31 PM
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I think body count should not matter but rather the person's ideology on sex. I value someone who couples sex with romance exclusively and is enthusiastic about romance. I want someone confident in what they want and not fall for FOMO in their youth. I believe this happens to correlate with a body count. But again, their ideology is more important than experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:27 PM
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If this is the case then there is no reason to take hypocrites seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:20 PM
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What is op said sexual value as opposed to body count would that make this more interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:18 PM
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Experience in bed is not the only factor that goes into making a relationship, sure a woman with a low body count has less experience. Still, they could have other things going on for her that would make her a more compatible partner, such as common interests and hobbies, shared values and morals, and shared goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:17 PM
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Thank you! I appreciate that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:20 AM
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Yeah, an artificial womb would be suitable for paternal certainty, but that would mean women cannot stay faithful. Which is really bleak, I would like to believe women would love to be faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:50 AM
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Winmill_Flowers, my perspective is that I view hook-up culture as a business selling its product which is casual sex (fwb, fuck buddies, and one-night stands). This is like an environmental corporation selling eco-friendly product in time of climate change movement to profit of the movement. They market their products with slogans like young people are incapable of love, people need variety, or they will feel like they missed out, and it's empowering to have sex outside of the relationship. Thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:57 AM
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Mobrowncheeks is correct here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:21 PM
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Yeah I am a guy :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:05 PM
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I agree it's a problem, but these men would need to explain why it's a problem. One says sex is impure when men have it with women, which devalues women. So if a man loves a woman, he cannot have recreational sex with his beloved pure wife. This dehumanizes women but also misunderstands sex. In nature, sex is used for more than procreation and pleasure but also for bonding and strengthening relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:36 AM
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This is the consequence of separating sex from love, in my opinion. Obviously its more complex than this, but separating sex from love is a major contribution. Yes in the past sex has been separated from love with prostitution but back then prostitution was underground. Now we have porn which has become mainstream. Men watching porn has become normalized while romance is more popular with women. I think we need to normalize romance for men. I am for one a hopeless male romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:27 AM
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I would not leave my girlfriend over this, as I don't mind waiting. I value sex as an exclusive romantic activity, so I want us to bond before sex. I think women should do this to filter out fuckboys, but I also believe there are other things she needs to do introduce them to her friends and ask them to meet his friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:19 AM
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I agree with your sentiment. I need deep emotional feelings before doing something intimate. I am a hopeless romantic, but I am also principally romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:13 AM
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what do you mean?
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 03:05 AM
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Thank you for believing in me, fightmecthullu I won't let her down if I ever meet her. In the meantime, I need to develop those skillsets and healthy habits.
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 03:04 AM
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More so about unlearning toxic attitudes and traits and learning healthier attitudes and traits.
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 02:08 AM
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Thank you for your well-thought-out advice. I appreciate it. As someone with OCD, empathy is more beneficial than someone trying to solve my problem, which won't work and only reinforces my obsession. Looks like I have a lot of work to do but I think it's worth it to keep a romantic partner happy and healthy. I really do enjoy the thought of making her happy one day hopefully I will get to.
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 02:06 AM
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Yeah, I agree. I have never been a fan of the gender double standards.
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 01:32 AM
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Thank you for your advice but could you elaborate about having realistic expectations?
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 12:40 AM
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no worries that's fair enough
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 09:08 PM
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I can respect boundaries and be reliable; I don't think that is too hard. You don't have to be objective you can share your subjective thoughts.
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 08:55 PM
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agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:54 AM
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I try my best to be respectful towards others thank you for taking notice :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:31 AM
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I'm afraid I have to disagree with you when you call those insecurities. I believe those toxic behaviors result from unhealthy attitudes instead of insecurities. I am insecure about my future partner using a sex toy, but I would break up with them instead of controlling them or using toxic or abusive methods. Men and even women should be able to prefer not to be with someone who uses sex toys. I don't defend men or women; I defend the insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:31 AM
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What is wrong with this saying though, not everyone wants or needs toys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 12:49 AM
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I find it funny how the women here were introduced to sex toys by men. I also find it funny how women demonize insecurities but women are allowed insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 12:48 AM
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You appear to be blinded by your ideology from your reply, so I don't think it's worth my time and yours. How do we know the vows are the problem, not the social, cultural, and economic factors of divorce? You fail to address this at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 11:13 PM
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Because no legislation prevents partners from keeping the vow or punishing cheaters before you say there is a stigma of getting a divorce, why do many people get divorced? You seem bitter and want to attack romantic ideals and blame ideals instead of those who break them and the society that makes it hard to break them. You are no different than those who are pessimistic about monogamy and blame monogamy for relationship issues as opposed to the people in those relationships and society that mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 05:11 PM
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You have to be a troll there is no way you are being real here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:10 AM
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Or maybe hear me out, we men are picky and don't want to date women who have sex without love. And yes, there are those bitter incels upset about their virginity, but I am happy I am a virgin and didn't sleep around. I am happy I have a hobby, a supportive friend group, and three birds I care for. I am rich and well-off, and confident as hell. Women would be lucky to have me for a husband, but I am more selective than Harvard. Don't paint us all with the same light.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:52 AM
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I don't work like that. I don't want sex on a first date personally, but I am upset that why you, as a woman, didn't want a relationship with men you slept with if you want romance in general. Again I am not here to shame women who sleep around but explain why I won't date a woman who sleeps around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:44 AM
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Because it goes against our values relating to sex, as we see sex as exclusively romantic, we are pissed because society has been separating sex from romance. Now it's using progressive rhetoric to justify this. We are mad cause our values are being threatened. We don't want to date women who threaten our values. If an independent woman wants to have casual sex go ahead; don't push your lifestyle onto our people. People judge those who commit young or desire serious relationships when they are y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:29 AM
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No, the issue here is how women here avoid answering the question and, instead, explain their beliefs about sex. I don't have a problem with women having different opinions on sex than me and sharing those beliefs. The problem stems from them sharing their views at strange times and avoiding answering questions. It is like me asking which coffee place to go to, and instead, the woman goes off tangent talking about her opinion on roller coasters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:56 AM
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How else should men prove they are not going to pump and dump the women they are seeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:14 AM
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You are not answering the question. You are just prefacing your ideology. I get you to have a creed or opinion, but when people ask questions, just answer them. If you can't, then don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:26 PM
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This does not answer op's question. This is like a fisherman asking how to catch fish and you saying you can catch fish whenever you want. It really doesn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 07:50 PM
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I love how some of the comments ignore the question and spout how women can do what she wants with whoever she wants. It shows you how blinded they are by their ideology. But I advise looking for men who introduce you to their friends. This shows he wants to you to become integrated to his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 06:49 PM
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Thinking about these things is a waste of time. I have thought about things like this, but it's not worth it. All it did was waste my time and leave me bitter. But I realized if Western women are fixated on hookups and fwb, it's better to be MGTOW and make myself happy. I have three lovely birds and learning how to code to get a better job. I have fantastic friends who support and encourage me. I am fed up with culture expecting us to have casual sex in our youth and settle down when we are olde…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 03:27 PM
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I agree controlling behavior is problematic, but it's hard to trust people regardless of gender, in my opinion. Cheating is becoming normalized as men and women defend cheating and are weird about cheating. I think the best thing we can do is destigmatize insecurities and offer compassion and empathy toward other people. I don't trust women because of the people on the internet and media I was exposed to, and actually, it wasn't from the manosphere content, but I am working on building my trust …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 12:30 AM
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Its rampant in both genders, its jut narcissism in women is becoming more apparent by media
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:21 PM
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I apologize; I did not mean to imply that you condone cheating. It's more so the response to people who condone cheating in bad relationships. I am sorry you have been cheated on. That sucks, and I hope you have healed from that bad experience. You are correct in asserting that the environment has a role in influencing cheating. I admire you took some responsibility for creating a bad environment for your relationship; that takes a lot of reflection and maturity. You are wise to include the envi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:19 PM
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But even in bad relationships cheating won't help the women get out of her toxic relationship. It may be understandable but unjustified because it doesn't solve the problem. We should not encourage people to cheat in bad relationship but instead leave those relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:11 PM
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Women sharing their jealousy-related insecurities and desire to maintain paternal certainty might help combat this malicious problem. I don't think women here are helping anyone by immediately invalidating our insecurities. It shows they don't care about cheating even if they don't themselves. Instead, people ought to be more compassionate and considerate to each other. Of course, they will make some excuse not to be towards you, OP. I don't think you are a toxic person from this post. You need …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:07 PM
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