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What the actual fuck?! I will preface this by saying that I am a woman that has long been beyond bothered by the "I need feminism because..." 'movement.' (Is it a movement or do they just go to college campuses with whiteboards?! They asked me to do it once when I was in college and didn't like my answer. I felt so equal and valued.) Stuff like this enrages me in a way I cannot describe - there is no responsibility for the actions/ people/ situations/ places you surround yourself with and now th…
/r/MensRights24/05/13 09:50 PM
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But... but... the safeword is 'no!' Next option: become a mind-reader.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 09:45 PM
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THANKS for the info! I will look into it (after lunch!) for my own edification. Lots of ridiculousness and emotion at the heart of the arguments of these feminists women adult females whatever-the-fuck the PC term is nowadays.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 06:48 PM
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Don't know too much about this comparison or procedure or attitudes on either (was just regurgitating some of the nonsense heard in my classes) - where can I learn more?
/r/MensRights13/05/13 06:41 PM
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YEP! Female castration? Forced sterility and/ or childbirth? Drought? Famine? Nah, unimportant. Guess what I faced this weekend?! A stranger on a bus referred to me as 'chick.' The horror! The patriarchy! I felt so oppressed!
/r/MensRights13/05/13 06:11 PM
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So true on your first sentence. And what a travesty in comparison to women where actual oppression exists - by comparing first- world women to that, we've created at an entire generation of victims that whine when men hold the door while women worldwide fight for their literal lives. Seems like a legit parallel to draw. scoff
/r/MensRights13/05/13 04:26 PM
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As a decidedly NON feminist woman, I, too, cringe at their cause, their statements, and, most certainly, their delivery. It is too bad that intelligent discourse is being replaced with the same type of anger, control, and victimization as the thing they were against from the start - you're right, that is eerie.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 04:23 PM
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Reading this brings really hit home for me. Exact same thing happened to my uncle who has been like a father to me. I am really so so sorry for this guy. No one deserves that.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:55 PM
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MINE TOO, ACTUALLY! I once found a random gal on reddit that eats M&M's like I do. It was life-changing and bizarre. Have a wonderful day, sir and life-upvote for basketballing!
/r/MensRights17/03/13 07:46 PM
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Upvote - I like you.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 07:30 PM
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that's my typical response, but one day I thought: wouldn't it be great if I actually tried to be more athletic?! I'm trying. It's not working
/r/MensRights17/03/13 06:52 PM
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har har. yes.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 06:41 PM
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I agree with you. I cannot articulate why, but I do sympathize. Can you give me an example? The closest I can think of is: if a girl gets hit on by a guy she's not into, he's a creep. If he looks at her boobs (which she displayed with a fuckton of glitter and a low-cut top), he's stalking her. If she's into him and does those things, he's direct and assertive.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 06:38 PM
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Well, you have to realize how much taller I am than most people, let alone women. It's always been part of the dynamic I bring to groups. And honestly, I am man-sized to someone that always looks up. The girl was simply fascinated and asked 93485 questions
/r/MensRights17/03/13 06:33 PM
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THANK YOU for your answer, really. I don't sociology, so when people throw jargon and condescending terms at me, I feel uneasy. I appreciate some of the parallels you drew for me. Thank you. really. To be fair, I don't think she was a legit 'suitor', ya know? Probably just some kinky college girl thing, or so I infer. And I do think she thought I am actually a lesbian; (sweats and was drinking man beer alone in a bar) confirmed by my comment as I left. eh.... I am on the train and am going to th…
/r/MensRights15/03/13 09:48 PM
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Well then I could replace the word privilege with 'reality'? 'place in the world'? I don't know/ care about sociology, I just thought it was an interesting occurance and it got me thinking. That's all.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 08:11 AM
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I really don't know, tbh. I just wanted to discuss with people- which, as I said somewhere below is a new concept for me. I am an accountant and don't often discuss things of this sort. Sorry if I did it wrong :(
/r/MensRights15/03/13 08:00 AM
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ADDENDUM - Because it of course came up, no I wouldn't have kissed her. Sexuality aside, smoking is only okay on about 3 or so nights of the year... Any guesses ;) Ha. EDIT: If you are trying to kiss a tall lady, as either some type of kinky college lesbian thing or for actual attraction reasons, do not say it'd be like kissing a guy. Just don't. TBH, that was a quicker deal breaker than the smoking. and I don't even smoke.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:10 AM
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THANK YOU! This is the type of discussion I was wanting to have, not some in-depth thing over the semantics of privilege! I was just wanting to chat with people about different ideas/ ways of looking at my story and share theirs. Anyway... Your point of hot privilege is what I was wondering about. Granted she was pretty drunk, so kinda sloppy/ disheveled, but on a good day, I'd say she's an 8. I just wonder how easily hot women are trusted compared to men, even good looking ones. I was in sweatp…
/r/MensRights15/03/13 01:23 AM
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Well thank goodness this is America, where kissing strangers is still overall weird! ha. I know it's hard to generalize, but I do think that if it were a guy and I was clearly not interested, reactions from fellow bar patrons would not be as light-hearted. I just wonder how many people trust me without reason because i'm normal-looking and female (and who knows, maybe I'm creepy as fuck!). Then again, people do hook up with strangers from bars all the time, so maybe its not as weird as I think. …
/r/MensRights14/03/13 09:08 PM
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I wouldn't be rude - I'm from the south, I'm too polite ;) Haha. I'd be much more cautious with my words/ actions, Yes. I would not like to be kissed on the cheek by a random guy, would not care if he were sad that I didn't take a shot, wouldn't follow him outside to make sure he was okay, etc. I am much more guarded around men and more comfortable around women. I meant not if I were a guy, but if she were a guy. As in, what could she get away with (kissing strangers, saying very sexual things, …
/r/MensRights14/03/13 08:44 PM
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Modest woman here - I do not accept that guy's apology on all of your behalf because it is ridiculous. Certain clothing attracts certain people- it's not a matter of you guys oppressing us... Don't get me started! Just came here to tell you guys that I think this is absurd, too, and I would never blame a guy for looking at parts that I've highlighted with my clothing.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 12:57 AM
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Yeah I think your first interpretation is the nonsense they're getting at.... For your question,I honestly don't know. I really don't know wtf her point is, what the book is saying, what any of it is or how this is a thing. If I were less disgusted, I'd look it up in my notes and tell you....
/r/MensRights12/03/13 12:42 AM
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Um. I'm in a master's level class and I have no clue!!! According to the book/ crazy professor, women are underrepresented and primary caregivers to children, so care is only accessible when childcare is. Also, we Feel uncomfortable in a medical setting. There was no mention of veterans (either gen) or ESL folks, or any other identity. Such a shame.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 12:33 AM
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To be fair, its a social class, not a biology one, so its more like "Tell me, class, how can we foster the environment so women feel welcome too?" Haha. Your answer is spot on, though! I swear all I need to do is bring up the obvious, that I'm Hispanic and female, and I win all the classes. "Oooh, she's ethnic, she must really know about the plight of her people." The males have no such luck, sorry dudes =\
/r/MensRights11/03/13 11:44 PM
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There are 'men,' yes. I have opinions on that, though. It is a mandatory course and it is awful. truly. I wish I could record some of the nonsense that gets said in that class. Maybe I should show up baked this week. Itd be something at least
/r/MensRights11/03/13 11:00 PM
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Yeah, I messed up the title. 'we' should have been 'women' obviously. Quit oppressing me! haha. I am in a master's program for public health. In a class right now called 'Feminist Healthcare.' Gag me.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 10:42 PM
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Plot twist: I'm a woman! I am in school right now and all my classes seemingly revolve around the concepts of 'finding the management positions we women deserve' and 'realizing how oppressed we are.' Am I the only woman that does not claim to be nor feel like a victim of something-patriarchy- or- other?!
/r/MensRights11/03/13 04:53 PM
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Yeah I saw something similar... Wtf?!Relatedly, oranges are round, so it's time to eat more apples. What the actual f*
/r/MensRights06/03/13 05:35 AM
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yes, absolutely move on. At this point, you're still strangers on the internet, you owe her nothing. Texting is not initiation, it's a cop-out. I don't know you but I can tell you that there are many, many fun, cute, interesting girls out there that would love to hang out with you. Find one of them, OP :) :)
/r/seduction26/02/13 12:38 AM
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THIS! As a chick, I never understood that. Women that think they're not crazy terrify me. To me, that line is suggesting that men have 'less drama' and therefore she does too. Eeek. I have always gotten along with women, they like me and I like them - band together, sisters!
/r/seduction26/02/13 12:30 AM
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Me too! I love feeling attractive. Sometimes, it is nice to lurk though ;)
/r/MensRights20/02/13 05:55 PM
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Oh man, reading this before coffee was not a good idea. Each time I read stuff like this, I am thrown back into my summer days at college where we (men and women, as young and gorgeous as we'll ever be) could lurk, court, flirt with, and pursue someone of the opposite (or same, whatev) sex without it being assault. Ah, football players... yummy. Call it positions of power, call it dominance, whatever it is, athletes are hot and sought after. As a woman, you all have my support; things like this …
/r/MensRights20/02/13 05:41 PM
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As a woman that voluntarily hooked up with a few of the athletes in college (and eventually married one!) I can tell you that this is nonsense. When women troll for hot men, we (the normal ones anyway that aren't sitting at home thinking about white power, but rather out enjoying their youth) are NOT thinking of the 'positions of power that allow us to find tall, hot athletes.' Baloney. Also, I was in college 5 years and between me and all my friends, we never saw 'an assault.' I know it's not c…
/r/MensRights20/02/13 05:37 PM
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Thank you for sharing this! I (29/f) volunteer at the high school near my house and see this all the time. I hear things about the male teachers that, frankly, if I did it, would be fine. For instance, I openly (with the teachers, I don't share this with the HS kids) have a crush on the kid (maybe 18 or 19) that works at the Subway near the school (okay, so it's not a crush, but you know what I mean). The response from teachers? 'that dude is lucky' and 'go for it.' If a male teacher my age did …
/r/MensRights30/01/13 05:40 PM
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OP - I'm so sorry that you, in fact, did face racism and sexism in a class with people who allegedly value equality. I was in a situation like that in college and I (a chick) ended up dating the speaker-upper for awhile - he was just so hot and rational. So, non-creepy feminist women do exist!!
/r/MensRights16/01/13 10:03 PM
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YES! I am very limited in my knowledge, of course, but can contribute to the Vatican II divide- namely, feminist ideology
/r/MensRights16/01/13 09:26 AM
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Traditionalist and Catholic female here - I cannot wait to watch this thread unfold and add some of my own interpretations of the church!
/r/MensRights15/01/13 09:41 PM
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I think that buster2209 is saying that they essentially were forced to play nice with the feminist ideology because of demand from parishoners to do so. Forgive me if that's a misinterpretation...
/r/MensRights15/01/13 09:39 PM
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Yeah, catholics are good about that! Sometimes I forget how salient radical feminism really is... bummer. But I wish you well in your studies
/r/MensRights15/01/13 07:32 PM
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I don't know. It gets tough not to pigeonhole them as all radical neo-fems. As a very, very non-feminist woman, this makes dating and gender relations very tough. Feminist mindset is rampant in my grad school program, which makes school tough for me. I hope you continue to do research, understand, converse, and thoughtfully challenge yourself and others, realizing that we're not all like that.
/r/MensRights15/01/13 07:24 PM
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Beautifully said! You win the internet for the day, sir (ma'am?)
/r/MensRights15/01/13 07:21 PM
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YES! I Love this answer - you're a freakin' genius. Have an upvote. I'm going to quote this the next time it comes up. For me (a woman), it's only a bummer rejecting someone if they're nice. If they're a douche, whatev.
/r/MensRights15/01/13 06:24 PM
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Of course, if they don't get hit on, men are shallow and only concerned with appearances. Is this why there is a generation of pussies (pardon my language... reading this did not bode well before coffee!) that cannot talk to/ ask out/ hit on a woman without being a 'creep'?! I (a woman) love when a man has initiative to talk to me. If he's a douche, I'll reject him, making it clear that it's him. If he's sweet and I'm just not interested, I'll let him down easy, boyfriend card or not. Also, wome…
/r/MensRights15/01/13 06:23 PM
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I am making a compiliation (sp?) of things from this thread. I will PM you once they are complete- have some good ones so far! Also, I hear you about the salience of feminism - it's quite a shock, as a woman, to wake up and realize that what they're preaching is... off. at best. but it's easy to go through the motions because, well, that's what chicks in their 20's do! Also, upvote for your 'kicking a homeless man' analogy - they play victim flawlessly for sure! Thank you for your reply and keep…
/r/MensRights14/01/13 01:53 AM
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Your reply would be perfect - thank you! The criticism gets old, as does listening to their tales of 'enlightenment.' Eek. That's a great way to go about it, thought! Thanks
/r/MensRights14/01/13 01:50 AM
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Thank you for your list of resources! I will look into them (after I finish my schoolbook which is called- I shit you not- Feminist Healthcare). I'm gonna need a beer
/r/MensRights14/01/13 01:49 AM
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True. How sad in a setting where critical thinking and having your views challenged is supposedly encouraged
/r/MensRights14/01/13 01:47 AM
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That's a fair thought. I guess I am looking for resources/ facts about MRM/ men's experiences more than wanting to argue a point. All I know is the feminists don't seem interested in dialogue sometimes so thought I'd try different groups
/r/MensRights14/01/13 01:46 AM
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Your last point is one that I've been doing for awhile now. How sad that, in a higher education setting, I (anyone, really) would choose to not speak at all rather than be essentially called names! Sigh. Thank you for your reply and for your thoughts - and upvote for calling 'em bat-shit crazies
/r/MensRights14/01/13 01:44 AM
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Thank you kindly, sir (ma'am?) Ah, maturity at its finest. Downvoting because one disagrees, not because its crappy content.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 01:41 AM
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Thank you for both your reply and your inquiry. I think your point about a 'modern traditional' woman of sorts is an important one - I will mull it over. As I admitted already, and will admit again, I am a hispanic half-calf and play both cards when they suit me. I try to bring up hispanic culture, that marriages and roles in that culture are traditional usually, but have gotten sneers, apparently my appreciation of my culture is 'unenlightened.' How rude that I've not evolved past it, huh?! Tha…
/r/MensRights14/01/13 01:40 AM
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Well.... truth be told, I'm a hispanic half calf and play both the white AND mexican cards when they respectively suit me. Ha. don't judge me! Otherwise, sadly, they've told me my thought process is wrong, which is just as insulting. I digress. Anyway, thank you for your humor and your answer
/r/MensRights14/01/13 01:36 AM
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How I am getting downvoted for that response is beyond me! I am not as informed on the MRM and am trying to think about it, read a bit on Reddit and elsewhere before I blab something... stay tuned!
/r/MensRights13/01/13 06:36 PM
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I love this tactic! Sometimes pretending to not muddy the waters and agreeing is all that you can do! It sometimes means being apathetic in my studies, but with 6 months till graduation, it's hard not to. thank you so much for your reply
/r/MensRights13/01/13 06:34 PM
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Thank you so much for your reply. The crappy thing is: I have already pissed off the chair early on (she openly supported a political cause on a listserv. inappropriate at public university) and am 6 months away from graduation. I do sometimes fantasize about it, though! I hear you on the dogma and have come up with some dogma of my own: using my catholic background to be just as dogmatic in my views. In other classes (the ones I have to play nice in), I just get on their bandwagon and give up -…
/r/MensRights13/01/13 06:24 PM
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Hahah! Hissy fit - have an upvote. Thank you very much for your response and the book recommendation - putting it on my Kindle now! Thank you, sir
/r/MensRights13/01/13 06:17 PM
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I think that the feminist movement (as commonly thought of, not all branches, of course) has done a great deal of harm to men, women, culture, dating. I think that feminism and its supporters have become exactly who they were against at the root. Further, I dislike its prevalence in culture and am seeing it in my program - we are not all 'liberated' by sleeping around, nor are we against equality if we are traditional. My major complaint is that they seemingly advocate 'unique, diverse voices' u…
/r/MensRights13/01/13 10:02 AM
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A lot of times, I find myself being ornery. Truthfully, I'm less interested in others' opinions specifically, but more outraged that they just assume that their view is shared by all. Well, in this case, I despise the message, too, I suppose. I digress. Thank you for taking the time to answer
/r/MensRights13/01/13 09:48 AM
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upvote for circle jerk. hilariously fitting!
/r/MensRights13/01/13 08:51 AM
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Upvote because when I read your first sentence, it was in a little puppy voice. How sad, I'm sorry they're (mostly) nuts.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 08:44 AM
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for starters, most grad schools are fem-leaning by default. boo. Well, I'd like to give some prophetic, deep reason. Alas, I got a scholarship... free school.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 07:54 AM
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gah. no kidding! I am a female and not at all a feminist, but in a very uber-fem grad school. they did not seem too keen on me. eek
/r/MensRights13/01/13 07:46 AM
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I am! Me: 29, female, married, traditional, decidedly NON-feminist, cannot be offended (unless you're being a douche for douche-sake). Let's PM or continue?! EDIT: I know being a non-fem kinda defeats the purpose of discussion with one, but went to a liberal college, am in a uber-fem grad school, have some of their mindset to speak about
/r/MensRights13/01/13 07:35 AM
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It's quite tough finding them agreeable as a woman, even when trying to tell them nicely. I sympathize with you there.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 07:33 AM
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I absolutely agree and sense your frustration (although I've not been in your situation, not trying to 1-up) Every feminist I talk to dismisses my views and I'm female. I am sure it can be especially tough as a male. Caring and healthy discussion in your future, good sir!
/r/MensRights13/01/13 07:31 AM
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Thank you for posting this! And thank you for listing where it came from - very cool of you. I am a woman and often find myself so bitter at feminists' bitterness - such a terrible cycle. This is a great reminder to listen to people. ALL people
/r/MensRights13/01/13 07:30 AM
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Isn't it funny that they say 'safe place' for differing opinions? Oh, unless you're a married, traditional, gender-role-loving wife that is decidedly non-feminist. THEN you're misogynistic. If you're a liberal college feminist, you're expressing your beautiful voice.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 04:52 AM
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So, I'm a married woman that trolls this subreddit to look back on college and remember how terrible those classes were. I'm sorry feminists usually suck and tell you mean things - how hypocritical. If it makes anything better, chicks that hate that class, too, and can/ will talk to you are the ones ya wanna chase - we have our heads on straight ;) Ha! I used to wear tons of make up and short skirts and such to bug my uber-feminist-y-type teachers. WIN
/r/MensRights13/01/13 04:50 AM
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I know it's off topic and rude to say, but (mind you, I'm a 29f here) all those professors could almost be hot, too. IF they lost the attitude. Trust me, they don't like female students any more than they like male ones. I'm going to hell for that. meh
/r/MensRights13/01/13 04:47 AM
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I am a woman and this is terrible. JUST KIDDING! This post fucking kicks ass... I wish I could've talked with you when I was in a similar course in college. I felt really bad for the young men in that class - they could say nothing right. I was more than once called names because I voiced that I am traditional and I like gender roles and they work in my marriage and culture (born in U.S. but am hispanic). WTF. I digress. I wish you well in the rest of this course
/r/MensRights13/01/13 04:44 AM
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