zihuatanejo Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
21	How Rebecca Watson's response to Dawkins imparts a lesson on feminism women are not as rationally detached as men. Generalities like this really have no place in a rational debate. You can generalize about feminism because for the most part it has certain tenets that all self-identified feminists believe in, but I wouldn't try to use this incident to make broad statements about women in general.	/r/MensRights	08/07/11 05:51 PM
2	Wage Gap Myth... women execs actually earn MORE than men, not less. It would be nice if the article was sourced a little better. Here's June O'Neil's article on Comparative Worth which agrees that many other factors beyond discrimination account of the wage gap. Warren Farrell's "Why Men Earn More" has garnered ample praise, so I'd like to check it out myself. His follow up book "Does Feminism Discriminate Against Men" looks very promising as well, because it is a "debate book" co-written with feminist James Sterba.	/r/MensRights	30/06/11 10:16 PM
–	Prosecutor dismisses new science, defends rape conviction of Detroit man imprisoned for 25 years ("Science does not trump the testimony of individuals" says prosecutor) Appeal is still open (top one). My guess is if the court grants him a new trial, the prosecutor will be forced to drop the charges, notwithstanding her asinine rhetoric. Edit: Changed "his" to "her"	/r/MensRights	17/06/11 04:08 PM
–	PA woman offers $1000 to kill the father of her child on Facebook. Guy responds. She only gets "solicitation to commit murder" and he gets "attempted murder and conspiracy" I actually looked up the Pennsylvania Sentencing Guidelines and it seems the punishment for solicitation, attempt, and conspiracy are all equivalent. Of course, technically, the punishment for solicitation is harsher than just "answering" the ad, because in order for you to get a conspiracy charge you need some kind of overt act in furtherance of your original agreement. So if you tell your facebook friend you'll kill her boyfriend and then you go play video games instead, her punishment will be…	/r/MensRights	14/06/11 10:51 PM
–	PA woman offers $1000 to kill the father of her child on Facebook. Guy responds. She only gets "solicitation to commit murder" and he gets "attempted murder and conspiracy" I agree that the actions fulfill the elements of a charge of conspiracy. However, the implication you're making is that the woman was given a break because she is a woman and the man received a harsher charge because he's a man. I'm only saying that this discrepancy can also be explained by the difficulty in proving the elements of conspiracy vis-a-vis solicitation, given that they have the facebook status. Also keep in mind that you can only either be charged with solicitation or conspiracy, no…	/r/MensRights	14/06/11 05:48 PM
–	PA woman offers $1000 to kill the father of her child on Facebook. Guy responds. She only gets "solicitation to commit murder" and he gets "attempted murder and conspiracy" In general, that's how the crime of solicitation works. Solicitation is asking someone to commit a crime. It's much easier to prove than conspiracy or attempt. If the father had actually been killed, the woman could be charged with first degree murder under murder for hire.	/r/MensRights	14/06/11 04:38 PM
4	Went to the bar yesterday.. To the best of my knowledge, it won't. California's Civil Rights Act is much more robust than New York's.	/r/MensRights	11/06/11 03:37 PM
–	Went to the bar yesterday.. That's correct. If this were in California, all the guys would have to do is show that they requested the same price per drink as females and were denied. That's from Angelucci v. Century Supper Club.	/r/MensRights	11/06/11 03:24 PM
–	As a man, this is how I demonstrate the insanity of ‘blaming’ and ‘slut shaming’ rape victims! Great job formatting that, really ace. Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. Also, I prefer "chief" to "ace" but I'll let it slide. You would like to be held to the claims you make. That's fine. But I should be held to the claims I make as well. What does it matter what you think the consensus at r/mensrights is and who's to say I agree with it? You're basically saying "You are ignorant and close-minded, I am not going to argue with you because you're not going to agree with me." You are entitled to ha…	/r/MensRights	10/06/11 07:05 PM
–	As a man, this is how I demonstrate the insanity of ‘blaming’ and ‘slut shaming’ rape victims! It's not my fault if the users of 2XC launch a stupid critique on an easily critiqued point. I would rather be held accountable for my criticisms of the argument, not theirs. -- Yeah, I know r/mensrights doesn't believe in victim blaming. That's why I am intentionally avoiding engaging you on those grounds, because it will lead exactly nowhere productive.	/r/MensRights	10/06/11 06:51 PM
–	As a man, this is how I demonstrate the insanity of ‘blaming’ and ‘slut shaming’ rape victims! Let me try to be more clear. My point is that the helpfulness of the advice is irrelevant to the point of the comic. The point of the comic is that there seems to be some sort of disconnect when giving advice to a woman about how to avoid rape vs. how to avoid another crime. The girl in the last panel does not get upset because the advice is not helpful. She gets upset because she feels that giving a woman advice on how to avoid rape is the same thing as blaming a girl if she gets raped and does…	/r/MensRights	10/06/11 06:35 PM
–	As a man, this is how I demonstrate the insanity of ‘blaming’ and ‘slut shaming’ rape victims! Of course you didn't, but the girl in the last panel of the comic does. Go back and read what she says again. She doesn't say "Sir, I understand that you are trying to help, but I believe you are mistaken. Here are some studies that suggest otherwise." She says "IF YOU TRY TO GIVE ME ADVICE YOU ARE SAYING I DESERVE TO BE RAPED." When I checked the response to this comic on 2x, the top rated comment agreed with the girl in the last panel. The consensus over there seems to be it is perfectly accep…	/r/MensRights	10/06/11 06:22 PM
–	As a man, this is how I demonstrate the insanity of ‘blaming’ and ‘slut shaming’ rape victims! You guys are fact-oriented fellows, so surely once you review the studies and see that rape is usually not incited by sexy clothes, you will call this individual out as a clown and move on There's nothing wrong with calling someone a clown for ignorance of statistics. There is something wrong with categorizing his well-intentioned attempt to be helpful as an attack on all women and a tacit expression that any girl that does not follow his advice deserves to be raped.	/r/MensRights	10/06/11 03:16 PM
8	Aren't both men's and women's rights supporters supposed to be fighting for equality? Why is there so much animosity between the two factions? (xpost from r/feminisms because I really want to hear from both sides) Make sure if you are going to spend a lot of time writing a cogent and meaningful comment that you post it here. The mods in r/feminisms are quick to delete comments they don't agree with.	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 06:08 PM
–	Are you concerned about the frequency with which people use "bitch" and "cunt" in this reddit? Use these search terms and actually see how common they are These words (or any vulgarities) really undermine the strength of any logical argument or rational point to an impartial observer. For example, which point is objectively more convincing?: A. "We can't let these feminist cunts get away with redefining rape while simultaneously retaining the old stigmas associated with its older meaning." or B. "It is important to combat the disturbing trend in feminism in which they attempt to redefine rape while simultaneously retaining old stigmas associated w…	/r/MensRights	08/06/11 03:33 PM
–	The real reason pro circ people are so successful: A foreskin is worth 100K$ and is used in many female vanity products. "If you believe this, you are a fucking retard." Well, maybe not in those exact words.	/r/MensRights	08/06/11 02:07 PM
2	No women should be sent to prison in the UK according to 'women's justice taskforce' report Although, I do like how every comment on the r/twox version is "WTF this is stupid."	/r/MensRights	08/06/11 12:18 AM
3	In Making Campuses Safe for Women, a Travesty of Justice for Men Lowering the standard of proof for rape accusations is patently absurd and I can't believe it would even be considered, let alone mandated. But this is what happens when every suggestion on how to lower the instances of rape is categorically castigated as "victim-blaming."	/r/MensRights	07/06/11 05:29 AM
–	Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard You've highlighted the problem right there. Both choices you list are unilateral decisions made by the mother. Is it fair that the father not have any say on whether his baby is born, especially if he is going to be financially responsible for a choice he doesn't get to make? "What's a girl to do?" Consult the father beforehand.	/r/MensRights	07/06/11 04:02 AM
–	15 Aspects that Must be Recognized in Third Wave Feminism The author of the article was trying to push feminism in a more moderate direction. You may be correct that your 5 points are a more accurate description of the current state of feminism than the 15 points of the article, or maybe you're not. The craziest voices are always the loudest.	/r/MensRights	06/06/11 06:50 PM
5	F*ck the Salvation Army The Salvation Army is an Evangelical Christian organization. One of the tenets of Christianity is clearly defined gender roles such as "the sanctity marriage" i.e. anti-homosexuality, and the man as the unquestioned head of the household. Indeed, the "Salvation Army Code of Conduct" is offensive to men and it is good to point this out. But why is there no code for women? Because women are expected to do whatever their husband says, as they are the subordinate in the marriage. The author loses me…	/r/MensRights	01/06/11 09:23 PM
5	If only I'd had a vasectomy I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with a girl saying "I've made a decision, I'm keeping it" as long as she doesn't demand financial support. Note this is very different from "I've made a decision, I'm aborting it." I'm pretty sure all women want kids, it's biological ingrained into them. When she said she "wasn't sure" she probably was and just didn't want to drive you away.	/r/MensRights	31/05/11 02:17 PM
6	I wish when I was younger that someone had set me down and had a heart to heart talk about all the ugly truths of life, so I am leaving this here for any young people who care to read it. Make sure you only eat male animals as well or else you risk catching crazy from the female ones. It's Mad Cow Disease not Mad Bull Disease, you know.	/r/MensRights	31/05/11 03:35 AM
7	For anyone complaining about being "censored" on r/mensrights, r/feminisms DELETED three out of four of my comments there for no reason other than because they disagreed with them. Yes, you are right to be frustrated. But they can see these comments. They don't want you there and they either don't care that it pisses you off or they actually derive satisfaction from it. Seriously, can't you see them reading these comments "WTF, 3 out of 4 of my comments are deleted" then giggling maliciously as they deleted your fourth? You made us all aware with this post, but I think it's time to leave them in their fantasy world of censorship. Who cares what "the rank and file on that s…	/r/MensRights	27/05/11 05:38 PM
17	For anyone complaining about being "censored" on r/mensrights, r/feminisms DELETED three out of four of my comments there for no reason other than because they disagreed with them. I too would be very frustrated if I took the time to make well thought-out and civil comments only to have them deleted. I hope and assume the mods in r/MensRights don't delete comments they don't agree with. If you want to have a legitimate discussion then it obviously can't take place in r/feminism. In order to encourage legitimate discussion in this subreddit, we basically shouldn't downvote posts by feminists no matter how wrong or misleading they are. Why not? Because reddiquette demands th…	/r/MensRights	27/05/11 04:54 PM
1	'Slut Walk' Straw Men I most certainly agree. There's no way there can ever be reform in rape legislation if flat out discussion is met with such hostility.	/r/MensRights	24/05/11 10:26 PM
1	'Slut Walk' Straw Men Like, I said, it was a glib interpretation. And I agree that feminists took this opportunity to push their agenda with all the subtlety of a kick in the teeth. Here's the problem: The straw man that the feminists and their ilk comport to create "rapists get a free pass because of the way a woman dresses" is not so distinct from the claim "how a woman is dressed is one among many factors that should be used to assess the moral culpability of the action." The former is repugnant; the latter is rat…	/r/MensRights	24/05/11 10:09 PM
-1	'Slut Walk' Straw Men Lots of good points in this article. I agree that the Slut Walk definitely does it part in constructing straw men. These woman take Constable Sanguinetti's words ["women should avoid dressing like sluts in order not to be victimized”] and turn them into "if a woman dresses like a slut, she deserves to be raped." Ludicrous. However, with regards to this point: No sane and rational person in 2011 believes rapists should be given a free pass because of the way women dress, and to suggest otherwise …	/r/MensRights	24/05/11 08:17 PM
4	Some "rapes" are less serious then others. Of course, Mr. Kenneth Clarke is right! Are car theft, carjacking, returning-borrowed-car-past-the-due-hour all equally serious transgressions? Tyrannical political correctness speech code taboos prohibit sensible discussions "Poor form" is a good way of putting it. I think the point is that PC taboos prevent certain types of discussion. In this case, many people will always assume that when you say "less serious" you mean "not serious." I don't think that's a fair assumption just because it's a common one.	/r/MensRights	23/05/11 08:04 PM
2	Some "rapes" are less serious then others. Of course, Mr. Kenneth Clarke is right! Are car theft, carjacking, returning-borrowed-car-past-the-due-hour all equally serious transgressions? Tyrannical political correctness speech code taboos prohibit sensible discussions If you have no problem with these definitions, you should also have no problem with the statement "Some rapes are less serious than others." And if you don't, I agree with you.	/r/MensRights	23/05/11 07:43 PM
6	"I've always thought that the older women in a community should teach the young boys/men about sex"- In response to the Hummer mom who molested two 14 yr old boys. I was always looking for the perfect word to describe statutory rape and now I've found it: "tacky" Thank god for this article. The author should be ashamed of herself.	/r/MensRights	23/05/11 07:24 AM
12	Boston Globe Writer: It's Fair Game to Humiliate Men Accused, But Not Convicted, of Rape 'Given the Imbalance in the Legal System, As Far As Rape Prosecutions Go' She understands it, but to her it doesn't matter. To her, rape is so horrible that it's worth it to treat all men as guilty until proven innocent ("a minor inconvenience") if there might be a chance that it deters future rapes. It's impossible to argue against this kind of irrationality.	/r/MensRights	21/05/11 10:27 PM
18	Boston Globe Writer: It's Fair Game to Humiliate Men Accused, But Not Convicted, of Rape 'Given the Imbalance in the Legal System, As Far As Rape Prosecutions Go' "But given the imbalance in the legal system, as far as rape prosecutions go, there seems no great shame — for deterrence's sake — in imposing a little shame. Degrading? Brutal? Do these words really apply? Compared with what rape survivors endure, a short walk in front of flashing cameras seems a minor inconvenience." This is a very dangerous and warped logic. Given that the suffering of rape victims is so horrible, basically any means that MAY (in theory) deter rape is justified, as long as it…	/r/MensRights	21/05/11 07:43 PM
20	If it were a man writing this about women, you'd close that account in a heartbeat I think this sociopath has gotten enough attention. I mean, we don't waste our time going to KKK blogs and logically respond to their claims that other races are inferior, do we? She's a sexist who hates men. Let's ignore her and stop giving her attention.	/r/MensRights	21/05/11 05:25 AM