zodiacthrow Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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12	As a feminist ... "We do not see joining army as inferior" uh, yes we do. Plenty of stereotypes about stupid/poor people joining the military exists. "Glorofying veterans" is very much a surfacial lip service. And in countries where mandatory draft exists, sons of every powerful and rich people avoid and dodge military service at all costs. If you're gonna point at how a small minority of military members are glorified/receive benefits, then I can equally point to how society glorifies motherhood and gives benefi…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/09/25 10:02 PM
19	As a feminist ... You're just describing the same thing but with different words and tones. It also excludes men from maternal role because society thinks men are not capable of being a good parent. It's not JUST because being mother is inferior, it's because a father doing "motherly" things is viewed as inferior. It's the same way women with masculine traits like big muscles, chiseled jaw, thick eyebrows, mustache, etc. are viewed as inferior - not because the society thinks beards and mustache are inferior, but…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/09/25 09:39 PM
19	As a feminist ... Bruh, do you actually have a reading comprehension problem? Who tf here is arguing whether it stems from patriarchy or not? For like 10 comments in a row I've been countlessly stating it's a MISANDRY stemming from patriarchy. Why tf are you even pointing out that it's patriarchy when that's literally my whole point? Patriarchy.hurts.both.genders. This is literally core principle of feminism. So why are you trying so hard to deny that draft is misandry because it hurts and kills men? With your lo…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/09/25 09:14 PM
17	As a feminist ... 💀💀💀 I literally pointed out that you're turning this into men vs women rather than seeing that things like draft is a misandry practiced by patriarchy on men - yknow, which is the whole premise of feminism 101, that patriarchy hurts men as well?? This makes you look like your entire framework of the world is just "patriarchy=good for men, bad for women" and therefore, misandry cannot possibly come from patriarchy. Look, in the end of the day, it's the thousands of men who go and die in the filth…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/09/25 08:23 PM
23	As a feminist ... Yes, I'd like to know just what kinda definition of misogyny and misandry you're working with where "women cant fight, so men must die, but that's just misogyny, no misandry there" and "men cant parent, so women must parent, but that's just misogyny, no misandry there" can coexist at the same time	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/09/25 08:05 PM
25	As a feminist ... Again, it IS the same thing as drafting. "Women are bad at fighting (therefore men should do all the fighting and dying)" is how it's played out. Idk how many different ways I can explain this concept to you until you realize that just because there's an aspect of misogyny in it, doesn't mean it's not misandry.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/09/25 07:33 PM
37	As a feminist ... If you don't understand the feminist bashing, look how our conversation just unfolded. You claimed women being seen as "bad at fighting" is misogyny (true). But in the same breath, you claimed men being seen as "bad at parenting" is, somehow, also misogyny. I'm one of the few ppl here on this sub still calling myself feminist, and even then your argument felt incredibly disingenuous and double-standard. And you wonder why so many people here have allergic reaction to a lot of feminists?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/09/25 06:09 PM
27	As a feminist ... Okay this convinced me you're trolling. You think "women make terrible fighters" is misogyny because it excludes women from an entire societal role, but "men make bad fathers" is, somehow, also misogyny even though it excludes MEN from an entire societal role? Have you actually thought through this at all?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/09/25 05:14 PM
23	As a feminist ... Again, misogyny and misandry belong to the same coin. One does not "stem from another". They're different expressions of the same coin. You're providing "but here's misogynistic argument arguing against women having capabilities to fight", but that does not address the part of the society that tells men that "they need to fight and die for our profits", much like how "here's 100 reasons why men make terrible fathers" does not absolve the society's misogynistic view that women need to take care o…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/09/25 05:02 PM
58	As a feminist ... You really need to stop with "actually draft stems from misogyny" argument. No. It's both misogyny AND misandry. If you analyze the matter of maternity and motherhood with this approach, you can see how quickly the whole narrative falls apart. "Actually, the notion of 'the primary carer of a child should be mothers' comes from the notion that 'men make terrible parent', so forcing/pressuring women to become mothers is not misogyny, it's actually misandry". It's BOTH. The notion that fathers are …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/09/25 04:38 PM
22	What are your thoughts on this? 😂😂😂 you really tried to say "trial isn't violence" when the subject matter is NUREMBERG trial. You do realize that's a fucking war criminal trial for nazis, right? You can't be this dumb to not realize the implication of that. What's next, witch trial is "just asking for a trial"? Holy fuck	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	14/09/25 08:41 PM