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Values. She can be drowning in debt, I don’t care. She can be immature, doesn’t really matter. Fashion, food, music: don’t care at all. I am terrible. Feminine: don’t care either. Must have interesting thought: can be different than mine, I don’t care. I also can stimulate my intellect myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:34 PM
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Lol: the best advice ever , for people who can follow it! Wait for the mid-life crisis, that’s a different kind of treat. But following it is the hard part as you elude to. Also the feeling of being different also play a role, I think. The feeling of being excluded from society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:23 PM
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It doesn’t matter: if a man find himself ugly, he will have a hard time because confidence is necessary. He will be much less likely to approach women. Ugly men don’t have it harder than ugly women, they have different kind of hard. Ugly women have it easier to find somebody to have sex, but a type of sex that will often make them feel worse than not having it. Human mating is one of the social construct that cause the most damage in society and we still didn’t find a way to make it less damagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 02:43 AM
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I partially agree. Some are dangerous for women, physically or mentally, no questions asked. And you are very smart to have left men that speak about “women”: never a good sign. But I believe, as I have seen some women successfully engage with some of them, that some of it, is misplaced anger that can be properly redirected. Ie: no woman has been really nice to him until the one. But to be honest: knowing the nightmare that is to be an incel and knowing what women have to put off with when datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:51 PM
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Completely agree. I think it was just 1 point missing from your original comment that you elaborated well. And no, women do not misled men on purpose, but it’s just a difference of perpective: they don’t see the directness, they feel it as attractive: it does not register. Agressives and being nice, that does register and therefore they focus on. A great disservice indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 03:08 PM
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First therapy do not seems to work on incels based on the latest studies (10% compared to 98% for others) and people can assign the definition they want to a world but maybe the people who self identify as such may have a say on the matter, or are we going back to putting people in boxes and defining them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 02:58 PM
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More opening of the mind and time: took me 13 years of marriage to understand my past: humans just don’t know what they don’t know and there are enough information out there, for you to believe whatever you want: even that the earth is flat! Until they meet the people that will open their mind, there is little chance it will change on it’s own. And meeting somebody who loves you, has a lot of chance to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 02:55 PM
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All good points but I think for guys like him and me, the believe that you would be a bad guy for doing so. The constant complaint from women for being approached constantly …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 02:33 PM
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I don’t agree on that point: getting sex will literally cure inceldom. It’s not going to make them less sexist, but it’s definitively going to make them ascend! Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 02:29 PM
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Agreed: it’s low percentage of men but most of them do look for casual hookup until they are ready to settle. It does boost their ego. The worse part is that many women are not interested in casual but end up being in it because of them. Which can create a lot of damages on both side.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 04:25 PM
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For my part, I think CivilianMonty is right, that we are speaking about 2 different standard: the one that gets you a date and the one that gives you a relationship. Men here complain about the first one, but especially because there are many men that can get date easily to then use women as disposable sexual object because dating is so easy for them. It is this imbalance, that is certainly not women’s fault, but never men’s really, that is the aggravating factor that cause so much focus on it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 02:01 PM
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Of course 50/50 partnership can work. It doesn’t mean that you split everything, sign a contract … it means that both contribute equally: neither believe the other is slaking, inferior, dominant … Look at it as living with your best friend: you do whatever works so neither feel used. You make decisions that works for both of you. When you marry your best friend, it is really that easy. And you get to have sex, a lot of sex … But you need to get lucky as knowing a lot of women out there, I don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:36 AM
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Completely agree: that makes me insane. The “No that doesn’t happen”, “It’s an exception” but come back with look at that exception of ours that proves we are right! People are people. No 2 women are the same, no 2 men are the same. We have as much similarities as we have differences. The 1 model is the only model, is wrong. We are all a mix, with some more one way and others, the other way. Maybe we can look at what would be best for all, but that would be completely utopian.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:52 PM
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First, thanks for explaining your situation: much appreciated. I am myself not diagnosed as autistic, but bipolar with strong ADHD, which make it difficult to interpret social clues, and therefore socializing effectively. I go further in the non judgmental area, because for me, people cannot be blamed for what our societies made of us, what they want to do with it, is all that matters. We are all ignorant, some less than others: why not try to uplift everybody. Why women “have” to be more judgme…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:52 PM
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Well, that’s exactly it. Trying to find women that are less judgmental, is very hard when you are surrounded by women that judge everything, everyone, all the time, not realizing that their judgment apply to you as well, sitting just beside them. You just don’t believe women like you exist: ready to give a chance to people who can’t express themselves openly. While I completely understand why women don’t, to me, it is just self defeating in a sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:29 PM
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Again, sorry you took it personally, but excepted the 1st sentence, nothing was directed at you personally, since you are completely right, that I don’t know you and will certainly not judge you on a couple of sentences that are far from defining who you are. The comparison is still valid: as a man, you can spend as much time you want studying women, you will never feel what it’s like. Especially the compounding effects. Because women are women 24/7: men are not. And a lot of the issues that exi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 06:59 PM
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You don’t have to interpret it that way! As much as walk in her shoes is about men getting a perspective on what it is like to live as a woman, he just suggest that women should try to do the same, to get a better understanding of the problems instead of making assumptions that both side continue to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:09 PM
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Yep. Have been trying but each time, is like we are defending bad men or blaming women .,. Like I said, I have extremely lucky, because just the though of having to date again, would something happen, I would much rather end it now! Women just can’t believe that there is guys like us out there. They just don’t even trust it, when we say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:56 AM
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Man: you do a very good job at describing the exact same experience I have been through and as insane as it can seem, still am. I am not autistic per se, but bipolar with ADHD, incapable of reading social clues. The only reason I am married, is because a friend helped me and my wife did not speak my mother tongue, French, and my English sucked: so I was not expected to speak much, at first, which allowed me to ease in. On being nice: at one point during high school, I gave up on girls: I didn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:53 AM
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No kidding! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:52 PM
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I mean, that’s not rocket science, by a long shot. She is more likely to reciprocate, if you make an effort. There is no comparing having sex with somebody who is enjoying herself, than somebody that cannot wait it is over. And, I may be crazy, but there is nothing more hot, satisfying, and ego boosting, than bringing your partner to a shaking orgasm which take her a few minutes to recover from. And I am sorry, but if you have to convince your wife to have sex with you, you may be the problem!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:11 PM
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Exaggerating!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:26 PM
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Well excepted that my issues were mental health related: I have now a French accent that all women love to hear, I am 6’3”, blue eyes … It would really be not that difficult for me to cheat on my wife if I wanted, since I also work mostly with women (one of them tried). And my wife would even be ok with it. What you may not understand, is that not all sex is equal: having sex with somebody who take the time to try to make you cum as hard as she can, is completely different that having sex with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:16 PM
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Fair enough. One thing that you may learn is that your feeling are directly affected by your thoughts: So literally by not changing your thought, you will not change how you feel: that what the whole CBD therapy is about, based on scientific study. And never questioning what you believe to be right is dangerous as you will continue to be wrong on some elements, like every human on this planet. Humanity will not be what we are if we had never questions ourselves. But it’s your life, and therefor …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:27 PM
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What’s NAWALT? I didn’t meant that you were speaking about all women, but that somehow each woman go into a specific box, which you do the same with guys. We are all a set of characteristics: to use, your terms, some guys will be more alpha, others more beta: it does not mean that behind closed door the alpha do not act like a beta. I have the “honour” to have been friends with guys that lost their virginity at 28, guys that had body counts of 50 by the age of 22, women in all categories, from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:59 PM
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Snarky comment but if she is a woman, she has to be self defending: register on a dating app as a woman and watch as the avalanche of insanity come rolling down. It’s like emails: they get so much spam, that they try anything to get rid of at least some of it. And still they have to go through pile of garbage to find 1 or 2 worth responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:49 PM
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Why not? Why can’t we find something that is foolproof? Seems to me that getting rid of them helps both women and normal men. Why not something like a referral system rated by women: “Creep to be avoided”, “Good guy but not my type”, … I know, women can be bad too, but it would still be an improvement!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:41 PM
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You guys are funny: have you ever met real girls/women? They are not robot from a factory, with a set programmation: they actually can learn and change as well. Not that I am older, so the references is from 25 years ago, but still valid. There are the girls that take 3 days/dates of speaking with them before they agree to have sex and the one that on the 1st date will.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:35 PM
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No: Second. And the only reason, is that I have been with her for the last 23 years and we both much prefer to be with each other than anybody else, including the friends I grew up with. I even much prefer to play video game with her that with my friends. At 50, yesterday, we spent 4 hours on the Xbox together: not many women would do that. And when you hear husbands speaking about how obnoxious their wife are and wives how nasty their husband are, I am really good. I would much rather end my li…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:51 PM
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Your welcome and thank you for still giving men a chance: some of our species really don’t make it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:58 AM
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Yes and no: we live in her country, in the same general area but far enough that the chances she meet one of her ex is slim to none. I know 2 of them: one moved to another country and the other one is dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:54 AM
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LOL. I hope you are happy in your life too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:14 AM
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That’s a very narrow way to define it. I look at it more as does she want the relation first or the sex first. Promiscuity for me a range: some are not at all, some are very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:12 AM
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And yes, she had more than 30 partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:00 AM
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There is liking sex and be open to have sex: I call somebody that have sex with guys on the same night she meet them, as promiscuous: she can go directly to sex without the need of a long “courtship”. It does not mean she has to get a new guy each day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:58 AM
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Lol: in this case I would say already been there and like to go back often.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:39 AM
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I mean that since she was 16, she has not spend more than 2 weeks without having sex. And she was quick to have sex: we had sex the night we hookup. But she was not looking to have a high number.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:37 AM
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No, I have no fear of cheating or divorce! 😂 Her promiscuity has more to do with the fact that she likes sex than wanting to have 1000 partners! If the guys she dated didn’t cheat on her, she would not have had as many partners. And having a partner that is interested and open to exploring different experiences, when you have some lack in that domain, is quite literally a lot of fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:26 AM
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I am married to a woman that can be considered promiscuous. First, since I couldn’t ask women out due to my issues, if she was not, we would not be married. Second, she likes sex: like a lot. What’s wrong with that? But at the end, it does not change the fact that we both much rather spent time with each other, than with anybody else. And when you see the number of couples that seem to tolerate each other more than to like each other, I am good!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:07 AM
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Yes, worked for me as well! You have a very good excuse for being more hesitant when speaking and there is less expectation that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:53 PM
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Sorry, what does Automod means? Too new to Reddit never had the case before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:24 AM
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Thanks. The worse part is being smart enough to know it and still let it affect you … 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:23 AM
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Doesn’t matter. I do believe that both gender need to be treated equally as much as possible, but there are differences that need to be acknowledged and solution found so that both gender can feel safe, respected and have the opportunities to pursue their dreams. I prefer that both gender are treated equitably instead of equally, And as long as the women around me, including my wife and daughter, would say that I am a feminist, that’s all that really mater; that their feel respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:18 AM
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You are completely right, but when your self esteem get destroyed at a young age and you have nobody to bring it back up, you go completely the other way. I was telling my wife, that when I was 17-18, I would not ask a girl out because I didn’t want to shame her by having a loser think he had a shot. Pretty fantastic what your brain can do with the help of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:10 AM
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Sorry, didn’t try to be pompous, but dating app stats are known to be screwed because: not everybody uses them, there is way more men than women on it and the setting is such, that a lot of guys cast aa wide net as possible, expecting little return, while women have to go through large amount of requests. In real life, women don’t have to reject as many men since they don’t receive that many propositions. So the stats is not as much as women being more picky, but women having many more offers an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:02 AM
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Dating app? 😂 98% of women don’t use them. 80% users are male. Any stats coming out is going to be screwed. 2nd, as I mentioned, women on dating app are looking for relationship, men are looking for hookup: so yes, since men will fuck pretty much anything, even a goat would be more picky! 😂 And my experience comes from speaking to men and women from all walk of life, from the shyest to the most promiscuous. While understanding where you come from, since I was right with you 25 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:40 AM
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Experience: I should have added that men will have sex with women they find less attractive, which means that women have more candidates, but since they are rarely looking just for sex, that is a lot of candidates that they wish didn’t apply. At least, there something that a lot of women and men can agree, is that they are not getting what they want!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:26 AM
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I have to agree with him on that one but with comments: ugly women will get dates, may get many of them, but not that many will stay. Ugly men will not get any dates excepted if they compensate by wealth or personality, which is still easier. But, in my opinion, the biggest difference is how women and men rate each other: There is less ugly men according to women’s rating that there are ugly women, according to men’s rating. For women, the overwhelming majority of men will be in the average to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:41 AM
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Not completely true but you have to over compensate by a leap. Look at guy like Tony DeVito: had a girl before becoming famous, but you pretty much have to develop a personality like his, and that’s hard especially when you don’t believe you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:11 PM
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There are also cases of bullying by girls against guys, abuse by women … not a reason to blame all women for it but not the fault of the guy who is the victim first. Trauma can change people and sometime, not for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:04 PM
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Yeah, and the worse part is that it’s all in your head. Once you pass the hump, it gets better, but the problem is that this hump is now an enormous mountain created by our brain. The best is to find a woman that is willing to lead at the beginning, but that’s extremely difficult to find. I was lucky enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:59 PM
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You are preaching to the choir! I am 50: that was 30 years ago for me. 10 years ago I had a complete break down, not being able to function for 2 days. Took 2 years to flip completely to the other side, into psychosis: awake for 5 days, wife has to call the cops on Christmas Eve, took 2 hours to put me down, 7 days in hospital, and 7 years later I am still wondering why I am alive! Really, the worse is for my wife: at one point, she didn’t know how many family members she would have left coming …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:38 PM
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Well, true: as much as I hate the misogyny that some display, I understand the pain, since I can still feel it when triggered, even 20 years later, as well as all the factor that can bring a man there. Also not all is also completely unjustified: some women can be cruel even if not all women have to pay the price for it. I agree that most want validation. That there is external factor that contributed to their descent in the spiral. When non misogynistic, it’s much easier for women to help: just…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:04 AM
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I just don’t judge people: I don’t blame them for who they are and what life has made of them. Try to help others and make them feel better than worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:51 PM
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If live was so easy, so black and white … You may not want to recognize it, but women can play a role in their struggle, when they humiliate them for being different, call them loser for being too shy or awkward, over protecting their son to the point of not teaching him anything, take advantage of you for being too nice/naive. I am not condoning hate in any form, but you can understand the frustration that some may feel knowing that often, all the blame is placed on them, which only help making…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 06:13 PM
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I see all people as equal, but some have more trauma then others, knowledge, and different experiences. I believe that free will is an illusion: all decision you take are informed by the information you have. The only difference is intent. That being said women and men are different: they have different biology and different barriers , which make them react differently. So equal in rights and capacity, yes. Should we find a better balance, absolutely. Should it be equality: I am not sure. Equity…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:24 PM
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“Shortcuts at the expense of women are not the answer”: I never said it was. I said that’s the reason men do it: chances of having a guy in therapy at 16-22 is tuff. Many will have issues speaking about their emotions. Dating as a competition: Well, it is. Where you need to develop the skills to participate in it? Most of the time, a competition against the expectations of society, and a few times against other suitor. “Women aren’t to blame for your low self-esteem”: that’s a strong statement n…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:07 PM
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I would disagree on that one. I would argue that many are neuro divergent but don’t know about it. It took me some decades to realize that I could not interpret social clues. And many of their behaviours do fit some of the patterns. But not all of them. For me, based on my experience, the misogyny comes from external factors: women in their lives, how they have been treated by both genders … and unfortunately, as soon ad their blame women for their problems, it can spiral out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:21 AM
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Mental disorders and brain damages are different! The richest man on earth is neuro divergent so is the man that allow you to have a computer, phone, internet, and neither are brain damaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:14 AM
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Therapy: yes, but it can easily taken a couple of years to go through everything that causes the low self-esteem. So that’s why the “game” is used as a shortcut, which is negative for all, but unfortunately work for many men. What you see as projection/blame on women for this low self-esteem, is jealousy that it doesn’t affect women the same way. Women are generally approach by men more than men by women. That’s really it. I have been friends with women I had a crush on, who knew about it, who s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 10:35 AM
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Yeah: speaking with the women in my life is eye opening on how clueless they are of how a man’s world is. Like the fact that boys don’t speak about relationships between them like girls do, difference in emotional support … How confidence play a central role in a boy’s development, their capacity to date and how easy it is to crush it: the number of guys I know that became bitter, bullied … after having been humiliated, is frightening. Men are taught not to complain: to man up. That’s why women …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 10:01 AM
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I don’t argue on that: it’s bad for humanity. But to get the confidence to approach women, to speak to them normally, that is unfortunately the only way to do it and surviving. Women has no clue how fragile men confidence is and how much of it, is required for dating. Men with self esteem issue have to fake it (play the game), until they make it and then can become themselves: and women pay the price in the middle. That only apply to men with low self-esteem, shy or victims of bullying or other …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 09:46 AM
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I find dating insane to begin with but I am surprised how many women have an issue with guys seeing dating as a “game”, while it’s the only way for many men to be successful at dating: getting in the right headspace. For me, human mating and what is required of each gender to be successful at dating, is what is causing most of this trauma and I don’t believe we will ever fix it: some are just, or become, unlovable based on society standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 09:21 AM
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I am bipolar with ADHD: I already have a treatment, but not for social anxiety: need to stabilize my bipolar first. But yeah, anti anxiolytic can help.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 08:41 PM
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I think, it’s all about the support and experience. When you have encountered enough “mean girls”, compared to “nice one”. How you see your failure: women don’t choose you or you are not making yourself attractive. Did I feel betrayed by women? Yes, absolutely: complaining about how guys were treating them, to me, who was just waiting for one but couldn’t express it. Could I have become an incel? Without my sisters and a couple of other women, absolutely. It would not have taken that much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:11 PM
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I wish I had met girls like you earlier in my life! I hope you find your one soon if you didn’t yet …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 06:34 PM
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Whoa: so much in common! Impressive. Throw be back. One of my friend finally helped me! That’s the only reason I am now married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:57 PM
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Not all incels are teens without access to ressources! 😂 The main reason is that you want the woman to want you. It’s about being validated, if not, there would not be that many.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:36 PM
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I wish I had this app when I was dating: not dating anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 02:39 PM
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It has to be online. What the OP refers to as well is that men usually have to take the first step which is impossible when you have social anxiety. I have and will never ask a woman out in real life: it’s just out of my capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 02:25 PM
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Yep: depending on how old you are, you may be able to look back at one point, do a count and it’s frightening: I was at 10 the last time I counted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 02:20 PM
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Almost: I did go out with friends but feel so much out of place, that my anxiety go to the roof, and since I cannot even realize when women are “throwing” themselves at me (Friend quote) if they don’t use words, it’s pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 02:15 PM
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Agreed. I am in the same boat and worse: when women hit on me I have no clue cause I cannot read social clues. It’s a nightmare for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 02:12 PM
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For me, it’s extremely easy. She is my best friend. She is the person I want to be with the most. I want to speak to her about everything because we share the same views and feed on each other. Because I trust her more than I trust myself sometime. Because we share everything. And I admit, I have the same questions as when I see some couples, it looks more like a partnership than anything: each trying to get away from each other, any chance they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:44 PM
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Agreed. If we could just teach children! It’s just such a nightmare to navigate and it creates so much trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:32 PM
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Absolutely and I apologies if I gave the impression I was down playing it. But one of the difference between the 2 genders is also in the circumstances: in teenagers and young adults, women are still suffering much more from emotional and physical abuse. In my experience, for men it is more often with older adults or when they are older, and less during the dating period.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:26 PM
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And I completely agree with your comment. Because you are right that some men use the chase to boost their confidence due to low self esteem and I would argue that there are more of them that we think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:20 PM
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Sure but not to the same extend: there is still a significant difference in numbers and severity of abuse between men and women in relationships. That’s why I used “rarely” instead of “never”. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:03 PM
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This apply to situation when you already have interest because of his personality. I am not suggesting that women start to ask random guys: that would be a disaster. Just saying that a guy who you try to flirt with, and does not reciprocate, it can be due to lack of confidence. And I have not seen any guys with low self esteem, speak about hunting women like the many married men I know who have the confidence to go through with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:00 PM
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Rarely would a man stay with a woman he does not like …😂. The less option a man has, the more effort he will put in the women who accept him. It doesn’t guaranty anything, unfortunately, but you much less likely that he will be looking for just a hookup. But you may however get a stalker, depending on the situation. Nothing is ever simple, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:53 PM
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Yes, unfortunately it doesn’t make sense. Shy guys are more likely to stay that the one who are confident: the one who are confident have so much more choices, that they can go from one to another, while shy guy can’t. I never understood this logic because as it is right now, it’s much easier for guys that like to sleep around to do so than for the one looking for a relationship. Which doesn’t make sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:37 PM
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First, incels are men! Lol. And so yes, a small portion of men have issues getting sex due to how dating and relationships are negotiated between men and women, which favorise some men over others, same for women. You are speaking about a group of men deeply depressed and wondering why they focus, ruminate, .,. That’s the definition of depression, of being miserable. No incels is ever going to write anything joyful! Lol. They have forgotten what being joyful feels like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:02 AM
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Of course incels know their are the minority! I don’t know what that has to do with this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 04:52 AM
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Yeah: everything is in the details BUT, and where we may disagree, is tell the parents: some parents have views on sexuality that may be problematic: either too strict or over sexualized. And that’s a tuff one to handle between schools, teachers, parents and facts!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 10:51 PM
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No. Abusive teacher, like abusive parent should be handled. It’s the definition of what is abusive that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 09:34 PM
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True. And again, speaking in term of average. I am also not arguing for myself, just trying to answer your questions, since those are subject I discuss with my female therapist. Not also saying that anybody is to blame, just how society is. It’s better that it has been but you may be surprised by the men around you, what personal issue they would speak to a man about and the one they would speak to a woman about, or at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 09:29 PM
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A woman friend: which is often even more complicated. Men don’t speak about their emotion between each other. Certainly not easily. That’s why men have access to less emotional support: they may have many friends but will never speak about their feelings between them. Women have greater access to emotional support, which make it difficult for them to understand why men are affected more by loneliness. All of this being on average! Individuals vary ….
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 09:23 PM
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Most men call it sex, but what they are looking for is intimacy: if not they would seek sex workers instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 09:02 PM
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When you don’t want to wake up your children, you keep quiet: because as soon as they wake up, it’s over, that you are done or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 08:52 PM
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Yes there is a difference. Women are generally more critical of an individual apparence but most are not going to say it, to not be mean. Men if they speak between them, are brutal in how they speak about women. You have a lot of good one who don’t, but many will not speak up, especially if they are in minority. And they can make full blanket statements based on 1 example. That’s why as a men, I prefer to hang out with women, or at least not all men: too many bad experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 08:44 PM
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It depends: if it’s quiet because you have to, is not the same as choose to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 08:36 PM
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It is even cited by police force in reducing abuse and allowing to catch abuser that giving the children the capacity to describe what happened. You can do some research on that subject because leaving parent decide, given the power to parents that are abusing their children, to continue to do so. And no, they don’t know which parent is which.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 08:35 PM
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Dah! 😔😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 08:31 PM
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Actually, they can die of suicide from loneliness. Men have less emotional support systems. Even in old age, men that end up alone die faster than women that are left alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 08:28 PM
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What is PPD? And congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 08:25 PM
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Maybe a bit twisted but I am 6’3, blue eyes, fairly attractive a da nice guy. But I have major social issues, including the incapacity to read social clues, which can transform my advantages into disadvantages: 2 women, to date, got mad at me because I didn’t return their advances, that I was completely unaware of (took me 8 years to figure it out). So the women I would have had a shot with, were more difficult because they could not understand why I was unresponsive of their signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:48 PM
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I think you can have the opposite, however: bad experience with dating in high school, can make it more difficult later on. And it can easily snowball if you don’t have external help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:48 PM
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There is a lot to unpack here but you are right in that men have an issue. But not all men have the same issue and not all of them will have the same solution. But your example illustrate perfectly the most vicious circle that is specific to men: self-esteem, depression, failure, self-esteem … You can imagine that when being overweight, you can easily have a lower self esteem. Which cause depression. Which make it much harder to improve, especially with no external support. As a men, if you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:08 PM
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In my opinion, it comes from the difference of social support both have: Women has a tendency to have greater emotional support from their support network. Men just don’t: physical help sure, but not emotional. It is already extremely difficult for teenage boy to speak about their emotions (many cannot even describe them properly), so if you leave them alone, they can go down south very quickly, which cause a lot of issue in society. Many women are surprised to learn that boys don’t speak about …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:46 PM
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Hey man, don’t give up. I have a lot of the same issue you have. I am good at giving advices, truly, but still after being married, going through a raw patch, I still could not speak to a girl that was standing in front of me and clearly interested. Area that will help: alcohol or weed, if you do any of the 2 and not medicated for your anxiety: there is a reason men like to drink with women: it calms your anxiety, decrease her inhibitions, and increase their libido. BUT don’t over do it. Stay lu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:46 PM
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Yes, charisma is about body language and attitude, but the worst part of it, is confidence: and usually guys like us lack confidence because we suck at it. The best way to gain confidence is to practice. And the best way to charm women is to just want to know more about them. Nothing more. Not about what can happen or not. Having no expectation either way. Being as calm as you can be. The hard part is to detect if you are successful (at least for me). If she seems to enjoy herself, then ask her …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:28 PM
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Charm anytime. You have much more chance by being unattractive, but charismatic, than by being attractive but uncharismatic. Look at politics. Not the same but works the same. You are attracted to charisma. However, the more unattractive, the more charismatic you have to be to compensate. And it is easier to improved your physic up to a point then your charisma, which takes work and practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:11 PM
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I have tu shine in: I am enough attractive, but I am not capable of interpreting social clues and with my environment, caused a lot of psychological issues: in short, I was incapable to ask a girl out and incapable of noticing when a girl was literally, throwing herself at me! Took me 10 years and a friend, to get out of it. 10 more to realize all the missed opportunities I had. And another 10 to realize that even after being married for 10 years, I had still not see and understood, that one of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:50 PM
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Wrong. The reason.is that women have a much stronger social network than men, in general. They have access to much stronger emotional support than men. Edit: a bit harsh to start with wrong because I actually agree with the second part of the argument, that it may be why women are a bit less understanding of the struggle. To what degree is the question!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:20 AM
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Sorry, was not clear. Thanks for the reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:37 PM
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I don’t know how anybody can say either way without knowing her. Both gender are capable of dating somebody they find more attractive than them, for the self-esteem boost and social status boost. Both can, and will most likely develop feeling afterwards: it doesn’t remove the fact that physical attractiveness was the main driver first. But I think the point of op remain that women are generally disingenuous on the importance of physical attractiveness for sex while men are about they intent, to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:36 PM
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I completely agree that being gleeful about somebody’s despise is heartless but then why the double standard about the incels? Based on the op, she is on TikTok mocking guys. So are we not having a double standard where if a woman has low self esteem, men need to support her but if men have low self esteem, it’s their fault and women have no good reason to help?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:27 PM
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I wish you were wrong but human mating is still driven by biology: Attractiveness will always rate higher than behaviour, even if both play a role. But to be fair, it’s true for both side and only apply to sex. For love/relationship, behaviour become higher in value.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:37 AM
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Interesting: I don’t watch porn that much but still can wank many time a day when my wife is not in the mood. And even when she is, I still can wank multiple time, spend 4 hours pleasuring her and still get hard as a rock as soon as I make her cum. The fact that I am a former incel and have a very submissive sexuality as a result, may explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:28 AM
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Actually I am, but it’s complicated! 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 07:45 PM
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Lol: some teenagers always had sex, that’s not the issue. It’s how their treat the other gender and the one that don’t have sex, which most likely you don’t see, since they would not socialize, go to school, hide crowed places. And yes, many are doing well, but especially with the pandemic, many are not and have lost social connections. We will only realize the true cost/toll in a few years, when they try to form families, by how many succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 07:42 PM
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Well, if the some increase on both side, it will depend on how the new generation is raised. But based on how boys continue to be raised, without the tools to be in meaningful relationships, it’s not looking good, I am afraid. Especially with the number of them being raised by a single parent increasing. It’s not going to affect all of society anytime soon, but the impact will increase if nothing is done to reverse it and nothing is being done to address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 07:18 PM
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Obviously 🤣😂 or none of you would do anything else !
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:37 PM
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Like I am very good at giving advices but very bad at following them 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:35 PM
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True, but then we have to be persistent: If my friend, go from girls to girls, treating them like crap, but find 1, get married and treat her adequately, while I don’t date, get depressed as a result, lose my will to live, stop studying but succeed to get married, and become a problem for her despite the fact that I don’t want to, because of my mental health issue: who is really right here? Is it better to hurt some people so you can take care of the ones you love or avoid hurting anybody, takin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:31 PM
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Completely agree, excepted for #7: Lots of people on this sub, don’t have a lot of sex and the one who do, it’s mostly casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:13 PM
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Because: - the number of divorces is increasing. - the number of women remaining single is increasing. - the increase in male sexlessness. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:10 PM
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I agree with most of your mind frame, except for feminism: there are area where women are treated as less than what they deserve, and it needs to change, as much as when men are treated as less for no good reason. But I don’t see a reconciliation any time soon and just an increase in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:09 PM
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Maybe because they can’t understand the advices since they were raise differently and society treat them differently. And yes, when you are advised to do something you are incapable of doing, or very bad at it, you will “make” excuses as it is all you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:05 PM
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It’s not that they don’t believe in it as much as all examples around them points to the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:01 PM
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Well, that’s the main problem, isn’t it? Because there are bad men, all reasonable issues men can have, are not to be taken seriously! That’s what men have been doing for ages: since there is at least one woman gold digger, all women are whores. It does not work. And another interesting illustration: you would think the 5th women would have learnt from his past? But no: guys like that can keep on going and I am sure he will find another woman willing to be #13. It is a sad world!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:41 PM
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True but in this case, you have to accept that men that can read women or are confident enough, are “better” whatever they look for a relationship or just sex and treat women like crap. And men looking for relationship may never find one. If that is what society want, that’s a choice I can live with. Can other do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:37 AM
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Asking a guy out, do not mean you have or want to have sex! The thing women don’t seems to understand is that there is much more men looking for relationship that will never ask a girl out and that most of the one who ask them out are the one looking for sex. Rapist will not wait for you to ask them out: most of them are good enough to convince you to go on your own accord: most victim know their attacker or followed them willingly. That’s the sad part.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:32 AM
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Well, you still can change that: you don’t have to go for only the guy that you are interested in having sex with, but the ones you want to know. The point is that men who just look for sex, have confidence, already play women like fiddles. Asking them to change and give up what they get, is never going to work. At best, the guys looking for a relationship give up, like many I know because they have no chance against them: they are just to much better in confidence and lying. Just look at the da…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:21 AM
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And if everybody was nice, there would not be any crime. Players exist and will always exist: they have access and they will use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:14 AM
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And I disagree. Currently the players are much more confident to make the 1st move and they still can lie. If a woman initiate, she has a much better chance to detect if the guy is really interested or not. Initiating do not mean that you have to go through with it. Most guys looking for relationships are more reserved and less likely to initiate than players.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:12 AM
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The problem with this logic, is that it happens anyway because the guys that just want sex are not afraid and confident enough to make the 1st move.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:08 AM
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I don’t disagree. Of course, women don’t choose crappy men on purpose. The problem is that those crappy men don’t get any repercussion in many cases, make it more difficult for other men, since they have to compete with cheaters, and have women complain about men. As a man, when you witness a woman introducing to her friend, a guy that has been spreading STIs around the university, because he is charismatic/attractive/good a dating, it is very difficult to be sympathetic to what is going to happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:58 AM
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Cognitive dissonance: not as much as different perspective on a world that treat male and female differently. 1: choose better, do not mean be more picky. Every women I know has at least a boy friend or hookup that she regret: they can be as picky as they want, they still date men that are good at dating. They choose men that have the skills to cheat on them as much as they want, or treat them like crap, because they will always find a woman interested. 2: Same as #1. What men complain about her…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:11 AM
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