A question about MGTOW?

georgesoyros · 2018-04-15T08:43:51+00:00

MGTOW is no relationship with and not getting married to a woman.

That's really it.

Phantom_Spark · 2018-04-15T11:56:15+00:00

Mgtow is a different beast from the rest. Mgtow is more about men's individual journey. The only thing collective about us is that we desire to share our knowledge.

PUA's want to get laid. They benefit from mgtow knowledge but they're not mgtow.

MRA are activists. They're actually interested in changing the laws and trying to make things better. But it's a hard battle. Men and women who used to be feminists get sued, doxed, and receive death threats for challenging feminism.

The very idea of mgtow makes women unattractive. If you actually understand the laws, and their behaviors and motives and biology, wtf is the point? Everything about a woman is dangerous unless society shackles them. Women were never meant to be in charge. This is proven in history, in religion, in biology, etc.

And unlike any time in history, the world now caters to an individual and their health, and enjoyment. This is also the reason mgtow is spreading exponentially. We have too many elements coming together to make it work.

Internet allows anonymous instantaneous communication and sharing of knowledge worldwide
Video evidence showing female behavior is hard to forget
Laws have gone off the deep end and we have decades of proof showing women want nothing more than to bury a man
Porn is free and available everywhere
Sex toys/dolls for men have been growing
The world caters to the individual now more than ever in history
Arranged marriages are long gone
Postponing marriage for later in life gave men time to question their life
An adult unmarried man knows countless men and has a hard time finding a man who fits the mold of happily married for years who gets regular sex, and isn't a tool for his wife's benefit.
Women's extreme hypergamy has allowed men to start asking some dangerous questions.
Men have begun to realize that while women are gatekeepers to sex, men are gatekeepers to commitment. Which do you think is more valuable? You can buy sex, you can buy a toy/doll. But you can't buy commitment.

Mgtow is more about men realizing their value. Once you know yourself you are then capable of knowing others, you begin to see that most women aren't worth it in even a short term way. As a man you work hard to build so much. All a girl has to do is be young and look cute and she's worth as much as the years of work you put in? Hell no!

A man can enjoy the benefits of his efforts over his entire life. A woman has a short window to capitalize on her looks, and then it's gone and she's hit the wall, and eventually a ghost. 👻

Even a beta is worth more than these every day thots.... he just needs to understand his value!

Drunk_Cat_Phil · 2018-04-15T08:59:07+00:00

It’s more a philosophy/mindset/lifestyle. It’s basically just saying no to women and their shenanigans and doing what you want, how you want. If a woman comes your way pump and dump but essentially don’t chase and don’t take any shit.

Generally speaking, MRAs want to change the system and MGTOWs are just walking away from it.

PUA chase the pussy and MGTOWS don’t.

All, for the most part, understand hypergamy etc of women.

MGTOWS are just the more...extreme (lacking a better word) of the 3 groups.

raisins3142 · 2018-04-15T13:18:27+00:00

It isn't a movement. It isn't a set belief system. It isn't something you can put in a box. You want to describe it, but you are approaching it incorrectly and that is why you struggle.

Mgtow are a bunch of guys doing what they want and not getting trapped by women, and then talking about it on the internet.

That's it. I have no idea why this gets overly complicated.

westnblue · 2018-04-15T08:51:37+00:00

Be at peace with yourself. If you were ever married thats all you think about.

sir_wankalot_here · 2018-04-15T10:33:06+00:00

But aside the PUA, isn't MGTOW a form of men activism? What does activism mean? Isn't preaching MGTOW a form of activism?

It is a form of reactionism. MGTOW is lumped in the manosphere, the manosphere itself is dealing with the issue of male identity where men's roles are changing due to technology and laws.

So both TRP and MGTOW have the same base redpill theory about women. TRP says game the system versus MGTOW says opt out. There is some overlap.

Edit: the manosphere is defined as:

The manosphere is an informal network of blogs, forums[1] and websites where commentators focus on issues relating to men and masculinity, as a male counterpart to feminism or in opposition to it. Many of these are men's spaces.

The content of manosphere articles varies widely. Common topics include the men's rights, fathers' rights, and Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) movements; self-improvement;[2] antifeminism; male victims of abuse;[3] and pick-up artistry.[1][3]

Wikipedia then falsely states this.

Following the 2014 Isla Vista killings in California, many mainstream news sources reported links between the killer Elliot Rodger and posts to a manosphere forum about the pick-up artist community

It has contradictred itself. MGTOW would, screw bitches, go your own way. TRP would say, go pump more iron. They have falsely attempted to lump the manosphere with incels.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manosphere

r4ph676i · 2018-04-15T21:15:04+00:00

str8 and 2 the point. love this.

Mr_M0t0m0 · 2018-04-15T23:26:13+00:00

MGTOW to me is a philosophy and a lifestyle in which I rebuke the feminist agenda and the gynocracy telling me that in order to be a real man I need to 'Man up' and get with a single mother to raise some other dude's babies. I need to marry some fem who's had her vagine run through by countless other guys. MGTOW is my philosophy and lifestyle of not letting some femoid dictate to me how to dress, what to eat, pay attention to her, spend all my time with her, do everything for her, how to live my life. I will devote the remainder of my life seeking out knowledge and learning all that I can. I will soak up as much information as I possibly can. MGTOW 4 LIFE!!

Title	A question about MGTOW?
Author	IntelligentRope
Upvotes	5
Comments	20
Date	April 15, 2018 8:20 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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