Just had an interesting text convo with a female to whom I've long been sexually attracted. Knew her back in college, back when she [now 32F, but who has retained SMV through obsessive fitness] was the younger girlfriend of a buddy of mine [I am now 36M]. Buddy succumbed to opioids a few years back long after his relationship with her ended and we'd fallen out of touch, so there is no one living who I'd be dishonoring if I slept with her (I think; right . . . ?).
She has a little kid from a relationship after Buddy, and when that split, she shacked up with an older guy -- late forties? 50? -- who put a roof over their heads for a number of years. During this time, my own long-term relationship ended in the materially harmful, acrimonious, and female-induced manner that drives men to GTOW, and the only sex I have had over the past several years has been very infrequent online dating one-night stands.
Those were invariably more effort than they were worth, with hours of trawling to get one female of acceptable attractiveness (in her pictures, at least) to accept a date. They would generally arrive forty pounds heavier and five years older than their online pictures, and it'd take a night of binge drinking just to fuck 'em, then, having been deceived, I'd have no interest in contacting them again. I haven't even done this in over a year.
Buddy's ex, though, is hot [7? 7.5? You don't get many 8+s in the thirties it seems]. Since GMOW, I've noticed I don't feel that intense animalistic urge to just ravage a woman much anymore. It takes an especially attractive woman (i.e., I don't even see this kind of woman daily) to get me interested in sex at this point. Buddy's ex, however, falls into this rarefied category.
She definitely reciprocates. We have been at college "catch up" lunches, text each other sometimes, stay in touch through social media, etc. There is always a level of sexual charge between us. Today, she unveiled a secret to me: she has just leased her own apartment, out of her older current man's house.
Like all women, she is incredibly red-pilled and is openly so in conversation, if you don't try to engage her in Blue Pill/White Knight-to-Virgin Princess Victim/Saintly Woman dialogue. I don't, so she admits to me that she isn't relationship material, that she gets bored of men and breaks their hearts, that she doesn't feel much inside, that she only cares about her kid, etc. Well, in this vein, she discloses that she is leaving her current older man and he doesn't even know it yet! I tell her to keep me posted when she moves out, and she seems receptive to a friends-with-benefits situation. More on this in a moment.
First, not sure how to process this feeling. Here I am, having had my own life blown-up before by a female pulling this same shit on me -- capriciously leaving without forewarning and setting my entire trajectory and life plan on fire -- now privy to secret knowledge that this is about to happen to some other dude. He even played Daddy to her little kid, this other man's orgasm, that wasn't his own. But now that she's drained him of a few years of resources and coincidentally got a big job promotion herself, so she is financially able to kick her old provider to the curb, she's ready to move on of course. What a strange feeling -- a view from the other side! I feel sorry for this dude, who I've only met once, at Buddy's funeral, to which she showed up with him.
Second, though I'm MGTOW, I still would very much like to have regular sex with a woman to whom I'm attracted. I've looked into escorts/call girls a bit, but haven't made that leap yet for a number of reasons (money; fear of STDs; etc.). This girl seems clear she neither wants nor is capable of a relationship. She is ambitious and has scored a good paying job (probably makes as much, if not more, than me, and I do alright), and I talk to her strictly in red-pill truths/terms, to which she is attuned (one of her hobbies is hunting, and she shoots and guts deer on her own, so no blue-hair veganist bullshit).
Do you guys have any experience with friends-with-benefits over an extended period? I've never had an ongoing sexual relationship outside of my old Blue Pill framework, and am both excited and apprehensive about this possibility. She says she'll let me know the minute she's moved in to the new place, and wants to get together. Could this be a good arrangement to meet my sexual needs? Is it a trap? I definitely don't want to return to the plantation, but I would like ongoing sex. Instead of pump-and-dump, is there such a thing as 'pump-pump-pump-pump-pump . . . ,' but never get yourself into a situation where 'dump' is even necessary, because you never got entangled (financially, legally, emotionally) in the first instance? Hmmmmm.
TL;DR:
Longtime female friend who shares reciprocal attraction with me just confided she is leaving her current (older) cohabitating man, has leased a new place, and has yet to tell him. (1) I feel very weird seeing this happen to someone from the other side, seeing another man about to have his life destroyed and he doesn't even know it is coming. (2) I would like to have regular sex, still having that need as a MGTOW who has been in the midst of a long Monkdom, and she is fairly red-pilled and seems open to a friends-with-benefits situation. Is this something that can be pulled off? Or a dangerous trap?
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Don't ever think you are immune from falling back into simp mode. Do what you want but you're playing with fire in multiple area's. The risk vs reward ratio is in the gutter.
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True. Him going into simp mode is another risk I didn’t mention. There’s a bit of him being an orbiter of hers in the story.
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I'm willing to put money on her having at least one std also.
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I was this close to posting: jack off and see if you still want to see her...lol.
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The only high risk aspect is you getting her pregnant. She was in what I presume to be a non-married situation and still had it and left. Chances are if she gets pregnant with you, she’s highly likely to keep it. You’ll be playing with fire most on that front. What would that do to your life? Have you had a vasectomy?
If you do get involved, don’t ever see her kid. She gets a babysitter and comes to you. You Don’t want to become a daddy figure or get attached to someone else’s mistake.
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