Alpha beta

ZeroBlink · 2018-02-25T19:43:59+00:00

Not sure what your point is.
In mgtow philosophy it's not about being alpha or beta , you lost your way to TRP or PUA apparently.
Here we talk about simps or cucks. Which are a completely different entity, than alpha or beta so to speak. Totally different style of classification.

Straight_Up_Menace · 2018-02-25T19:51:57+00:00

You cannot be an alpha and go your own way, because an alpha is supposed to put the benefit of his group above his own. You cannot be an alpha if you do not have a group with a hierarchy to begin with and why would you want that shit?

You cannot be a beta and go your own way, because a beta is just following an alpha while waiting for his chance to take over.

So forget all that male hierarchy bullshit and just do whatever the fuck you want. If a part of your own way is to attract women, projecting some of the alpha male characteristics might be beneficial, but if you want to go your own way becoming an alpha is the last thing you should want...

Ludakrit · 2018-02-25T19:40:00+00:00

At first glance, we could break the male characters into three groups. The first would consist of those society has historically told us are “manly.” These characters are assertive, proud of what they do, and sure of who they are. These men take charge, they get what they want, and there is no apologizing for what they do. They are businessmen. They are entrepreneurs, they are athletes, and they seem to be men who are looked up to, even feared. This group would include Walter, The Big Lebowski, Jackie Treehorn, Jesus Quintana, and the Chief of Police of Malibu.

The second group of men are almost the opposite of group one. They are not assertive, they don’t always get their way nor do they always speak their mind. They are not always sure of themselves. They might be considered followers or even yes-men. They do what they’re told and they rely on others for direction and advice. This group would include Donny, Marty, Liam, and Brandt.

The third group doesn’t really qualify as group at all. In fact, it’s just one person — The Dude. Here and there, The Dude exhibits some qualities of both groups, but is distinguished from the other two groups by the fact that he is really a man unto himself. He’s not overly assertive or macho like the first group, nor is he a pushover like those in the second. Though some might disparage him as a slacker, a deadbeat, or a loser, he in fact commands the respect of most of his detractors. While he isn’t afraid to stand up to any of the hyper-alpha males, he generally does so in a relatively gentle, passive way.

Just because others might put you into one of these groups doesn’t mean that’s how you see yourself. This doesn’t even mean that’s where you want to be, or where you will be in the future. A wise person once pointed out to me that well respected people don’t just become that in a day, a week, or even a year. Character, personality, morals, and values are achieved over time.

Walter, The Big Lebowski, Jesus and Jackie are all people that tried to portray greatness and grandeur. Yet eventually, we all saw that they were, to borrow T.S. Eliot’s term, hollow men: Powerful Lebowski out of his wheelchair and helpless, weeping, on the floor; cocky Jesus fearfully informing his neighbor that he’s a sex offender; and idealistic Jackie showing he’s nothing more than a mercenary. Even hardnosed, implacable Walter turns out to be a big softie behind all the bluster, pining remorsefully for the loss of his wife and others close to him.

Neither are these men so capable as they claim: Walter tends to mess things up for the Dude more often than he helps. Jackie is really nothing without his thugs. Outside of the bowling alley Quintana is just a registered sex offender. And most of all, the titular Big Lebowski turns out to be a miserable old man estranged from his family who resorts to stealing money from a foundation for needy urban achievers.

In the shadow all this false bravado, we might reevaluate Donny, Marty, and Brandt and find three sincere men who were braver than we realized. Donny wasn’t afraid to stand up to the nihilists. He had eighteen dollars and was willing to take one for the team. Brandt showed up to work every day and did a pretty good job at whatever Mr. Lebowski needed — few people could have the fortitude and discipline to put up with Mr. Lebowski and Bunny. Finally, as noted in the last column, Marty worked up the courage to ask the Dude to come to his performance and take notes. If you’ve ever participated in anything art-related, you know how hard it is to bare your soul to others.

The Dude, meanwhile, has risen above the whole macho/milquetoast dichotomy. And like a modern-day Buddha, that release of the ego has allowed him to exude a profound compassion for everyone. Have you noticed all the crap he has to deal with from Walter? While trying to deliver the money to the nihilists do you remember his concern for “that poor woman?” The Dude may not be living the high life. He doesn’t have a lot of possessions, his home seems easily broken into, and he also gets roughed up often. All of this crap in life and he still has a forgiving, accommodating attitude. Life goes on. The Dude abides.

http://dudespaper.com/what-makes-a-man-mr-lebowski.html/

ZealousMathematician · 2018-02-25T19:34:19+00:00

16m old account folks, what do we do?

dnr-u · 2018-02-25T19:33:45+00:00

You're Alpha-bet' soup

Title	Alpha beta
Author	Joediwilliam20
Upvotes	6
Comments	7
Date	February 25, 2018 7:29 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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