Do Not Get Married - Legendary Thread

YourAverageBloke2 · 2017-04-08T22:39:22+00:00

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OK, I’ve got problems with my wife, but the solution to this one is quite simple: DO IT ANYWAY. The reason you “can’t” is because you are afraid. Sorry, but it’s just that simple. Afraid of her, afraid of the consequences, afraid of the disapproval of yet another strong woman – I don’t know, but you have to get over it. Here’s what you do: Months ahead of your planed trip, you TELL her: “honey, I’m planning our yearly fishing trip for June 7-14. Any conflicts I should know about, because I’m making reservations today.” (using active language puts YOU in control. Getting the all clear from her gets you off the hook from any “surprises” that might pop up.) As the months go buy, she will no doubt bait you into arguments, give you guilt trips etc. The BEST tactic is to simply IGNORE her. DO NOT get drawn into a battle. If she’s in a pissy mood, and says nothing is wrong, well then act as if nothing is wrong, This is my #1 technique for staying in control. When you leave on the trip, LEAVE HER BEHIND. Put all her pissing whining and guilt tripping out of your head and have fun, It will be there when you get back, trust me. Guys the only way a woman can control you is if you LET her. Truth.

I’ve been married for ten years, and it sucks, a lot. I love my kids, but my wife is a control freak and a bitch, and her main mission in life seems to be to grind me down into some sort of Stepford Hub. As an example, I went to pick up my daughter at a birthday party over the weekend. For once, the people throwing the party didn’t have a lot of money, and it was a smallish, sort of cheap house, with a few kids in the back yard swimming in an above-ground pool, which was deep enough for them to swim, but not so deep they could get into any trouble. For once, the party wasn’t some frantic, ubermommy running around trying to outdo her friends. My daughter had spent two or three hours swimming in the pool, and had a blast. So when I got home, I told my wife that it was a great party, the best I’d ever seen, and she got all pissed because I apparently had implied that the party she was going to throw in a week for my daughter wouldn’t be as good, and wasn’t that insensitive of me, and so on. I wish I had not married her, except for the kids. The thing I learned is that power is a really important thing in marriage. Once they realize you have the power, women are far, far nicer to you. It’s fucked, but they are. As for those who are considering marriage, do it if you want kids, but remain in control, and don’t let her even think about trying to change you.

A statistical impossibility for ALL the men in this thread to have married the “wrong woman”. A simple truism is that you really can’t “tell” who the person is before you marry them. At that point the green felt on the blackjack table is redone and the new hand dealt is one that is unlikely to work in your favor. Thus, for a man to get married simply because he friends are getting married or that he wants to show his girlfriend that he truly loves her is a foolish man, indeed. The main reason why men get married in the first place is because he is with the first woman who excites him and gives him exclusive and consistent access to her overrated pussy. In a moment of irrational, unclear thought he decides that marriage is for him and then he enters into an agreement where the odds are stacked against him. In most cases of marriage, the sizzle quickly subsides and normalcy sets. Predictability is a killer for romance and a destroyer of sexual relations, and that’s what is likely to happen. Once the divorce papers are filed (twice as likely for the woman to file than the man in the U.S.) the man is likely to lose access to his children and will probably have to pay for child support and alimony. Thus, it is in a man’s best interest to put off marriage for as long as he can unless he absolutely wants to have children. Choosing the “wrong woman” is chick logic as it assumes that there is a soul mate or a male’s anima in biological form waiting out there to be “found”. Such a thing is unlikely and to presume it can happen is foolhardy.

Women will try to change you, it’s inevitable. What you can do at the minimum is look like you are alpha. Speak loudly, stomp, make noise, don’t take any shit. If she yells, yell back so she knows you won’t take that. At the same time, take care of responsibilities before she thinks about them. Only then will you have a ‘happy’ marriage.

Guys, you need to understand something. It’s very simple. Women only love you to the extent that they need you. Once they don’t need you any more, you are history. So when I married, I used a very simple strategy: I married a very nice woman who I knew for a fact could never build her own career. She wasn’t quite a “smart” as I wanted, but she was sweet and a great artist. 10 years later, she depends on me, I’m the sole breadwinner. She raises the kids. Very old-fashioned. Is is still difficult to be married? Hell yes. But she’s not divorcing me any time soon, and when I stand my ground in a fight, she listens. Because, frankly, she needs my earning ability. That is the secret of a successful marriage. And that is why, over the centuries, societies have discouraged women from having careers. Because women who are financially independent turn into total fucking jerks who fuck over not only men, but everybody in their way. Women are, by genetic design, totally and completely incapable of being trusted with independent power. They are selfish to the core, designed that way my Mother nature to help them cope with the stress of the insanely difficult job of raising children. Under certain conditions, that selfishness works fine for everybody…for example, when they are dependant on a man for breadwinning. Power corrupts, and in this is no different for women than for anybody else. Everybody needs something to keep them in line. Everybody, without some controls on them, turns into a jerk. So in our modern society, women have been relieved of essentially ALL social control. They can do any fucking thing they want to the men in their lives, with no consequences. They can even gun them down, claim it was self-protection, and get away free. It’s no surprise then that women are such heartless, horrible swinish louts in today’s society. They are allowed to let their selfishness, petulance, sexual power, and self-absorption run WILD and you bet, this turns them into awful human beings. So again, Men, what can you do? Whatever you do, avoid a woman who is “perfect”. Who makes a lot of money. Who is extremely beautiful. Who is a fuck machine. All of those things will make her seem desirable to you, but strangely, those are exactly the things that will make her a lousy wife. You aren’t marrying a woman because she is the BEST. You are marrying her because she will be a good wife…to YOU. Think about that.

YourAverageBloke2 · 2017-04-08T22:50:44+00:00

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Semonides of Amorgos, The Types of Women, c. 550 B.C.: Zeus made this supreme evil—woman: even though she seem to be a blessing, when a man has wedded one she becomes a plague.

A woman is like a vampire. She will suck the joy out of your and leave you a shriveled husk of a man. But she must; that’s how she survives. Getting married is like agreeing to live in a vampire’s coffin for all eternity.

I was driving back from a meeting this morning, thinking about my wife, and I really wanted to go home, and simply beat the living shit out of her. I have been supporting everyone for years, working my ass off, and my wife has not done one single fucking thing to make my life easier, to encourage me, or to help me with anything that’s bugging me. She’s on the PTA, the board of her preschool, she teaches art at the elementary school, is involved in a book club, and on and on and on. Her calendar is ridiculous. But I am some kind of fucking afterthought. I’m the engine that powers this entire thing, and I haven’t gotten laid in months. She takes care of the children during the week, fine. But we have a housecleaner, because actually cleaning the fucking house is beneath her. We take shirts to the dry cleaner, because she couldn’t possibly iron them. Clean laundry is in piles in the garage, because she can’t be expected to fold it. On weekends, I’m apparently her assistant. I can’t wait for Sunday night to come, when I can get out and head back to the office. And every day there’s some new example of truly shitty behavior — a bad attitude for any human. For example, last night she was at her fucking PTA meeting, which ran from 7 until 11. I went to bed, and had just turned the light out when she shows up at the front door, and starts ringing the fucking doorbell. She didn’t have her keys. She then informed me that she never does. I pointed out that having keys to your own house might be a smart thing to do. And she acts like that’s some kind of major insult, and then launches into a description of what happened at this meeting. I stopped her, and said something like “You know, I was in bed and almost asleep, and you got me up.” It didn’t even occur to her that a) I would actually mind being jerked out of bed by the doorbell; b) I wasn’t interested in a blow-by-blow at that moment. Finally, after years of this, the truth is starting to sink in, and I’m devolving into this serious, angry person to be around. All the normal, considerate stuff I used to do I don’t. I don’t talk to her unless I have to, and not any longer than necessary. She catches me looking at her sometimes, and the expression she sees on my face frightens her, I think. Somewhere along in here, she’s going to ask me if something’s wrong, and I’m going to start screaming at her. I’ve tried marriage counseling. I’ve tried listening, and giving, and being nice. Now, I’m going to try fear and intimidation.

She refuses to work. She always has some excuse. She’s depressed, she won’t make a lot of money, I make enough for both of us, she takes care of the house (not really). It’s one fucking thing after another. So I just save myself the trouble and don’t bring it up anymore. Fucking bloodsucking cunt.

My life sucks but my wife certainly doesn’t.

11 years. My wife is currently out a Wal Mart buying worthless plastic shit. She’s 70 lbs overweight. If it wasn’t for the kids I would kick her fat ass to the curb. REPLY: Do it now you stupid fuck! Save yourself! I have been married 38 years, two years ago I checked with an attorney and if we split up you know what she gets? She gets EVERYTHING. Know what I get? I get NOTHING. Yeah, you will have child support but you will also be bying the 27 years I fucking squandered. DO IT! Pleasssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeee do it! Save yourself and you will thank me later.

I also agree the best way to reduce the bullshit from a wife is to stand up to her the first time and every time. Love her or not, it’s important to demonstrate that you could live without her.

I used to have friends. Till I got married. I used to have fun. Till I got married. I used to have money. Till I got married. Someone get me a gun. I’d rather be buried.

The biggest problem I see is men getting married “because she wants to”. That is automatic disaster, no exceptions. Only get married if it’s YOUR DECISION and if you’re over 25 years old and it’s NOT just because she’s good in bed (that’s a terrible reason)

I make it work, but only within the context of the shittiest existence I can imagine in terms of what I expected in marriage versus what I got. What I expected: laughter, doing everything together (from boring bill-paying to swing dance lessons to movies on the couch to Sunday morning papers to buying tampons to medical problems when they arose to whispered sweet nothings to deciding on a new sink for the kitchen to…), great sex for life, growing old together, dying while looking into her eyes. What I got: a woman who after marriage instantly turned into a shrewish whining nagging sexless frigid materialistic petty manipulative cunt who only cares about how much money I make, constantly upgrading her fucking wedding diamond (it’s now 3.67 carats), and spending my cash on clothes from N-M, goddamn fucking window treatments from some specialty shop, and endless fucking shit from Pottery Barn that has nothing to do with my life or our life. Biggest mistake? Should’ve spent more than 4 years getting to know her. Should’ve not let the great sex cloud my mind. Goddamn it all to hell.

To those who aren’t married, one key thing: Take a good look at the girl’s mother. She will, invariably, become just like her mother. You’ll want to believe this isn’t the case for your sweet little thing. You’re wrong. Completely wrong. Bank on it.

What a bunch of whiny pussy whipped shitheads. I’ve been married for over 25 years and I have full control of everything. How did I do it? Easy, just adopt an attitude of, “hey, if you don’t like it, there’s the fucking door”. This attitude has served my marriage well. My wife thinks I’m one step away from walking out, and she treats me like a king. Of course I treat her with respect and don’t rub it in her face, but she knows that in the end, I run the show. We get along just fine. Get a grip you fucking pussies.

Look. I’ve spent a couple of years studying this and thinking about it. I am not going to spend my life like this. Here are a few things I’ve learned: 1) Women respect power. They will never admit it or even know it, but that’s what they respond to. Period. 2) Women don’t know what they want. 3) A lot of women aren’t actually very smart. 4) We are living in a culture that systematically degrades men. If there was a female Homer Simpson character, there’d be a civil war. 5) Read the following books: “No More Mr. Nice Guy” “What Men Know and Women Don’t” “The Manipulated Man” The whole society has, at this point, devolved to the point that you accept that you’re supposed to be this kind of infantilized miserable wife-assistant. It’s actually not funny. Fix it.

this is the big problem: WOMEN ALWAYS CHANGE post marriage — men generally DO NOT REPLY: TRUE!!! And the funniest part is that we men get married thinking that the woman WON’T change and they get married thinking how they WILL change the man!

YourAverageBloke2 · 2017-04-09T00:08:25+00:00

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I was happy but now I’m starting to wonder why I’m married. Me; MBA, career job, low 6 figure income, workout at the gym 3 days/week, cook meals on weekends, do major chores (i.e., heavy lifting) Her: At home mom – but our kid is in 3rd grade so she has all day home alone – she claims she cleans but it doesn’t take 6 hours per day 5 days per week to do the shitty job she does. She says she’s going to go back to work but she keeps finding reasons why she can’t work. Sex? None in 2 months (“urinary tract infection is cleared up but I’m afraid I’ll get another”) Fit? Not really So she has no ambition, provides nominal home value, is sexless. I’m not seeing the benefit of this marriage for me. What I have now for a wife is not what or who I married. I married an active, energetic woman. And now? She is pure couch potato. She talks a good game but when I get home, things are the same as before except she has moved on to the next book she wants to read. Meanwhile, I blow through my income buying her the house she wants, the vacations she wants, and so on.

Two years of Marriage. I’m depressed and turning to pot and alcohol. I’m not allowed to DO anything without “permission”. I used to live life to the full, now I just exist to pay the mortgage and fill the shelves full of worthless crap we don’t need. Thanks to the joyless fat whore I’m forced to spend the rest of my life with.

Women evolved to care for children and be cared for by men. They are sensitive to emotion, but not too good at math. If you want a miserable relationship try treating your woman as a rational adult.

I love this thread. Men: Women are unable to form a rational thought or argument and are constantly hampered by emotion. Women: Are not! You’re just being mean! Waaah!

Women still think it’s cool to argue any point, no matter how trivial, to the point of making their husbands dream of suicide, no matter what age they are. There is nothing on this Earth that can be worse than a life-long power struggle with an infantile woman. It’s no wonder so many men are happily letting their wives leave.

The only way a man will ever find happiness, when he’s truly unhappy at home is to treat his wife with complete and total indifference. Come and go as you please. Never, in a million years, think of ever asking her permission for anything. Do what you want, when you want, how you want, and with WHOM you want. Once she (finally) gets the message that she really doesn’t matter to him anymore, she’ll do anything on earth to keep him. The older a woman gets, the better this technique works. Every woman who reads this will think I’m crazy, but every man who reads it will know in their hearts that it’s 100% gospel truth.

[Men] thought that marriage was the deal that the vows and written contract said it was. Little did they know that the vows had nothing to do with it and that the REAL contract was the one festering in the pea brain of the evil sow they were tying the knot to. You know the one that changes from moment to moment on the whim of the ill-tempered fatass cunt.

REPLY: Not just the vows and written contract – no woman in history ever got married by saying “after awhile – no more sex for you”. In fact, they state quite the opposite.

I think when we look at how so many of these marriages end up, we’ll find that its the male who continues to strive to meet his end of his promise long after she has merely changed her mind about hers.

I tried everything I could think of, read about, and hear of. Nothing worked. Whenever I would bring up the fact that I wish we could have sex more than once every six weeks – she would write up a laundry list of demands that she promised would improve things. Most of these things on the list had to do with buying her shit and doing things for her. Like many – I fell for it a few times and scrambled to make things better. That, of course, resulted in very little changing except that not only did I have to support my family with a 50 hour a week job, but I also had to cater to her B.S. and help her with the housework (she has no other job).

I’m finally tired of what my wife is doing to herself physically. I feel my choices are leave or have an affair. I think I’d prefer the affair – then if she finds out, we will have broken up because I had an affair which somehow seems more palatable than saying we had a divorce because she GOT FAT!

Just a quick question, have any of you men spoken to your wives and really sat down and told her how you feel?

REPLY: I did. Once every 60-90 days or so … for years. It didn’t matter. My feelings were dismissed as being out of line. It always became twisted that there was still another way I could provide for her (as though 60-70 hour work weeks, remainder of the time helping around the house and yard, while she had a maid and no job was not enough). There was always something else that needed to be better or newer. Her happiness did not derive from me, nor did it derive from what she had internally. Her barometer of happiness was completely tied up in adequately keeping up with all the perks her girlfriends were getting. She didn’t love me. She only loved what I could provide. And though I was loyal to the vows until the end, she dumped me finally and gave me one ball busting of a divorce.

Ever see the old Twilight Zone where the little boy has psychic powers and he can torture and kill anyone with a thought? That’s the power no fault divorce gives to any woman you are foolish enough to marry. How many people can be trusted with that kind of power?

A father leaves work a little late one night and, while on his way home, he remembers that he has not yet purchased a christmas gift for his young daughter. He quickly parks his car in front of a toy store and asks the salesperson: “How much is the Barbie in the window?” With a convincing voice, the salesperson replies, “Well, we have ‘Barbie goes to the gym’ for $19.95, ‘Barbie plays Volleyball’ for $19.95, ‘Barbie goes Shopping’ for $19.95, ‘Barbie goes to the Beach’ for $19.95, and ‘Divorced Barbie’ for $265.95.” The surprised man asks, “What? Why does the divorced Barbie cost $265.95 when the rest are only $19.95?” The salesperson responds, “Sir, the ‘Divorced Barbie’ comes with Ken’s car, Ken’s house, Ken’s boat, Ken’s furniture, Ken’s computer, and one of Ken’s friends.”

YourAverageBloke2 · 2017-04-08T23:25:24+00:00

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Sex and The City is like a show about what not to do, but young hens eat it up and believe (as has been written many times here) that they can party like guttersluts until their late 30s and still be attractive, witty and desirable to rich, handsome dudes.

REPLY: Women seem to be easily swayed by shows that are aimed at them.

Because we always fight with each other. You ever see women really supporting other women (apart from the lesbian underground, of course)? It’s just a big catfight, so we ignore our older sisters’ good advice (which is rarely there, really) and take whatever glitzily-packaged piece of tripe that comes our way. Women have been taught that it’s “clever” to be rude & unappreciative of men, and to “funnily” snipe at them.

Women are great at goading each other into thinking they need more and more and more, to the point that they are rarely if ever satisfied with life.

“You’re just afraid of________.” I love how every time men make a rational argument about the misery of their condition, the number-one comeback is to accuse the guy of being “afraid” of something. Some cheezy 1970s female playbook they all receive secretly upon puberty must have a chapter about “exploiting your man’s fragile self esteem.” So we are accused of being “afraid” of committment, “afraid” of “strong powerful women,” etc. etc. etc. “If you accuse a man of being afraid, he’ll do what you want to prove he is fearless, just like a cute little boy.” No more, bitch. Shaming tactics have been overused and are no longer effective.

Life cycle of a typical American woman: – Fucks like a crazy slut in college. Gangbangs at frat parties on weekends. Destroys her body by drinking, smoking and lying in the sun to get a nice tan. – Gets a power corporate job, pumps her fist in the air over grrl power, and fucks more men. One night stands during business trips are normal. – Suddenly “oh no, I’m turning 30 and must land a husband”. – Contacts every guy from her past, including that guy she rejected in high school, and that Mexican guy she fucked during spring break. – Wonders why no one wants her bitter, angry, wrinkled ass. Watches “Sex and the City” and reads Cosmopolitan magazine for enlightenment. – Eventually gives up, and orders 20 cats. Spends the next 50 years listening to the same old sad songs every night as her cats wail in agony. Keeps pictures of herself from her high school and college days to show people that she was once an attractive, young girl. – Finally dies. Cats rejoice.

REPLY: You forgot this part: – Cats eat half her corpse after not being fed for a week. Landlord pukes his/her guts out after finding her remains. 10 people attend the funeral.

Marriage to a modern American woman will inevitably result in complete emasculation.

I just broke up with my fiancee too!! I took her out and said I felt we should put our wedding plans on hold, and she went CRAZY on me. I ended up breaking it off with her completely… Mine made the mistake of entering wife mode before she was my wife…I have a house and a trust fund, and could not risk marrying someone who showed signs of being a wife as described by this thread. Three days now, and she is spamming my phone 10 times a day, alternating between rage and repentance…

If you are a married guy, the chances are that you’re only reading this during a brief pause in listening to your wife’s whining. “That toilet needs unblocking, help me with dinner, hurry up laying that patio, kiss my rosy asshole, etc.” Being a bachelor, my Sunday is very, very relaxing compared to that of a married man. Thanks to going to bed at 5:30AM after a relaxing night of surfing the internet and watching porn, I slept in a little bit late this morning. It was actually the afternoon – 12:25PM to be exact – when I finally sat up in bed, yawning and scratching my big bachelor nuts. There’s no woman next to me to tell me to shift out of bed at 7:00AM and mow the fucking lawn. Admittedly I don’t have a woman in bed with me to have sex with, but given that about 1-in-5 marriages are sexless and the rest involve sex only on her terms (i.e. when you’ve just bought her a new dress) the chances are that many married men reading this have had to satisfy themselves like I do, with a quick meeting with Madam Palm and her Five Lovely Daughters. Except, as a bachelor, I can indulge in the pleasures of onanism in the living room without having to worry about some Nagmonster barging in and shrieking “OMG! WTF! You disgusting pervert!” So, anyway, I’m up at half-twelve. I had a nice cigarette whilst checking my e-mails. Then I had a coffee and another cigarette whilst playing a bit of Soldier of Fortune II until I got bored of shooting virtual people’s virtual brains out. A nice big fry-up followed. Mmmm…sausages and bacon. Are women more likely to be vegetarians? I’ve heard they are. I’ve known guys who pitifully give up meat just because their ‘missus’ is a veggie. Meat is good. Meat is tasty! Yes, I know full well that an animal died to provide the juicy slabs of bacon on my toast this morning, and I salute that dead animal for its brave sacrifice in the service of providing nice breakfasts. I’ll salute its sacrifice again tomorrow when I fry and eat the bastard’s other ass cheek. Come two o’clock and I’m down at the local supermarket. I bought some booze, hamburgers, potatoes, bacon and waffles. I also bought some pizza that, right at this moment in time, I’m currently stuffing into my mouth. Munch munch. I’m also currently watching Beavis & Butthead. I downloaded a few episodes via BitTorrent the other day. It’s not even six and I’m pleasantly drunk, eating pizza and watching some great comedy. What’s planned for this evening? I’ll probably have a nice relaxing bath and read Viz whilst I’m soaking in the tub. Then I’ll probably have a few more glasses of wine and watch some of the many South Park and The Simpsons episodes that are lying around the Hard Drives of my five computers. Also, I’ve just reinstalled Deus Ex and I’d like to play some of that too. Who knows what the future may bring? Whatever I want it to, that’s what. If I was married I would probably be standing in a stupid department store right now, looking at my watch and tutting whilst the wife decides which dress she’s only going to wear once she wants to buy with my fucking money! But I’m not married. I’m an eternal bachelor. To put it another way, I’m eternally happy and free.

Christ I wish I’d never married. The only downside to not marrying is that one misses out on the chance to have and raise kids, watch them grow, help them and love them. The upsides though…jesus fucking christ…they far outweigh the downside. No having to listen to the wife bitch that you didn’t do this, didn’t take care of that, that she wants / needs / deserves a new whatever. No having to put up with a cow who just keeps growing and now wants to move her goddamn mother in… Oh fuck it, if I start listing all the negatives of my wife and my life I’ll end up hanging myself.

I don’t try to split or evenly balance the blame. Some is mine for not listening to my heat and getting married at 21. Another portion is mine for not dumping her ass when she changed instantly after getting the ring and the ceremony. But the majority of the blame is hers (not that that fact makes things any better), for dating me for 4 years and never letting me see the real her and doing such a convincing job of lying to me that I believed it and of changing the second she got her precious fucking 4 fucking carat diamond motherfucking ring. She has resisted years of efforts to attend counseling, talk about our dysfunctional relationship in private, try new ideas, you name it. She is a conniving cunt after nothing but my money who I will hate or expend effort ignoring until the day one of us dies.

YourAverageBloke2 · 2017-04-08T23:36:14+00:00

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I was a witness of a marriage gone bad (saw it from the outside) of a missy who was by herself (living with Mr’s family) while he was away. She just couldnt control herself or stand being alone and ended up cheating. One of her friends informed Mr. about it and she was kicked to the curb, literally. Lost everything: roof over head, money, CC’s, all the security was gone in a INSTANT. the saddest part of it all? This cunt doesn’t think she did anything bloody wrong. She “needed someone” for a long time, and that’s how they justify it. They don’t care about breaking their marriage vows, they only care about themselves. They only care about THEIR feelings and don’t give a fuck about the consequences of their actions. She lives in a fake reality where everything is O.K. She feels completely justified in what happened, and has NO REMORSE. As someone young and unmarried, this really bothers the shit out of me, as I (or any decent man) could have been the poor bloke she did that to. It’s like they wear a fucking mask their entire lives and then one day “POOF”, she’s a whore overnight.

I agree that the worst wives are the American ones. I am 40 and love my kids to death. But my wife is a fucking bitch. Period. I have no illusions of a good marriage anymore. My expectations are so friggin low. All i want is her to be a decent human being. Nice. Polite. You’d think I’d asked if i could fuck her asshole. She lives in a $400,000 house, doesn’t work, and has a bottomless checkbook. She doesn’t cook, and pathetic sex is about once a month. My only sanity is I work in Istanbul 3 months of the year. And I’ve had a great woman over there for over 3 years. Really, if I didn’t love my kids so much, I’d walk out and give her everything, just to get her out of my life. I’m at a turning point. I really feel like if I don’t get out now, I’ll regret it the rest of my life. Honest to God, I pray for the day that she cheats on me and serves me papers. I never thought I could be the kind of man that would leave his family, but its on my mind 24/7. God help me…

My god, Machiavelli was right. Control or be controlled, its that simple.

Marriage is like a boring dinner that lasts your whole life and had dessert at the beginning.

The main concern for most women is to address their wants and desires, without thinking about what it take to achieve those wants and desires. A husband, to most women, is simply a tool to use in order to achieve said wants and desires.

REPLY: Yep. Here is my wife: We need a new house… blah blah blah… I need a bigger diamond in my wedding ring.. blah blah… I want a new car… blah blah blah… If you loved me you wouldn’t be so cheap… sure, I don’t work but that doesn’t mean I have time for cooking or cleaning house… blah blah blah

It seems that your wives don’t respect you guys. They have what they want, and they take it for granted. You are a money-making doormat to them.

My current girlfriend is almost 23. What I like most about her is the fact that she doesn’t like to spend money. She’s ultra cheap. And to be honest, I am ultracheap because I have to be. The two of us look at saving money as a fun challenge, and I think that is the root of our relationship. Sometimes, we get into fights and occasionally call each other names. But in a way, we are both pathetic, and we know it, and at least we have each other’s company. I think she is worthy of marriage at some point because I believe she will be loyal to me to the end. We both have a lot in common, like to take small trips (especially to disneyland), visit ghost towns, hike around new places, etc. She’s a complete pain in the ass but so am I. When I compare her to the Mercedes of women at school, I’d rather have her, the reliable ford pickup, because odds are it will be on the road far longer than the mercedes.

REPLY: And this, gentlemen, is how it begins. Some in this thread have wondered how we married fools got in this state. Well there you go. Did we see it coming? From our perspective, back then, this is exactly what it looked like. So different from all the sorry ass married fucks of our day! And yet, Fate’s cruel joke on us, is that we became those men we laughed at. And now a new generation of lambs arise, primed for slaughter as the last.

I honestly suggest that especially today women present themselves as sex objects to be used. Their heroes are britney spears and other sluts. The media has presented to most women aged thirty or less that “heroin chic”, or “short-skirt school girl chic”, etc.. is a viable way to sell your goods. Now, women are conditioned from a very early age that dressing provocatively will get you attention. The moment the hormones kick in, or perhaps even earlier, the thongs are purchased and worn. Expensive makeup, trashy clothes, and trendy purses are now demanded by 12 year old girls. It is the media that convinces women they need all that shit. NOT men.

The core of our relationship is that we both like to save money. I doubt that this will change. We are simple people with simple needs. We don’t need much to be happy. I don’t need giant television sets and the latest computers or sports cars to be happy, and she doesn’t need $700 purses or $100 MAC lipstick applicators. I doubt that this will change unless she reconditions herself to have a very expensive taste.

REPLY: Trust me, she will. Before you know it, you’ll HAVE to buy a house, and you’ll HAVE to fill it with all sorts of expensive furniture and knick knacks to make it a “home”. And no, YOUR knicknacks don’t count Then one fine Saturday morning, you’ll find yourself wandering through your umpteenth furniture store of the day looking for that perfect “banquet” (whatever that is), or finding the perfect chaise (ditto) for the guest bedroom that hasn’t been used in over a year. Then it his you – you used to spend this time playing golf, sleeping, or having a great morning fuck with the same woman who’s calling you an “idiot” because you don’t know sangria from ecru. And something inside of you dies.

Getting married was the WORST decision I have ever made in my life. Of course, I married an AMERICAN JAP wannabee — thinking that the woman she PRESENTED before marriage was the woman she would be right after I do. Chronology: (1) We agree on love, respect, honesty, money and career. (2) We get married. All bets are off. (3) She quits job, refuse to work for duration, let’s her credit go to hell, leans on me to pay for her mortgage, credit cards, misc bills, car payment. Meanwhile, I pay for our house, all associated bills, medical insurance, utilities and incidentals. Side note, her credit was so shot (of course she never revealed this until after the deal was set) that I carried the loan in my name only for the new house we were to purchase together. (3) I cut her off by refusing to pay for her bills (as listed above) — after 6 months – she becomes indignant. She becomes further in debt and creditors start their agenda. Oh well… (4) She starts emailing and calling all of her old boyfriends while I am away slaving at the workplace. (5) I give her an ultimatum to cut the shenanigans out. She denies, denies, denies. I call her bluff. (6) Move her out to West Coast. (7) Plan on buying her out of the equity accrued EVEN though she has not paid one single dime into any type of investment INCLUDING the house mortgage. Bottom line — DO NOT MARRY an American Woman

The truth is that there is nothing we really want. We aren’t materialistic. If I supply her with knitting material she’ll be happy. Truth!

REPLY: That’s what I said too, sonny. You put that ring on her finger though, and all bets are off.

YourAverageBloke2 · 2017-04-09T00:25:51+00:00

START of SECTION 8 of 9:

Smart is good. Educated is bad. Higher education will turn a nice girl into a man hating bitch.

REPLY 1: This is part of the consensus.

REPLY 2: Truth. Was involved with some woman awhile ago who had an MBA and she attributed every conflict she had a work with a man to the fact that she was a woman. Totally delusional and bitchy about everything, nothing but attitude. Very much part of the spoiled “I can do no wrong because I’m a woman” Gen-Y crowd.

Holy smokes women plan their divorce almost 30 months before they actually do it? Everyday you learn more about how devious the female mind can be. The internet may just save a lot of men grief from the biggest mistake of their lives, marrying a cupcake. Keep the thread going save the men! Marriage strike!

REPLY: Women are not capable of moral reasoning. The things that come naturally to sane men – fair play, honor, teamwork, loyalty – are alien to the female mind. A woman without children seeks the hottest or wealthiest man she can get to knock her up, and to marry the wealthiest man she can. If a better deal comes along she will instantly and without remorse dump the less wealthy or attractive man, and she will have the full backing of the modern totalitarian police state to take half the money and possessions of the man she betrayed. Give a creature with no conscience that kind of power and you have modern society, a culture in freefall, and soon afterwards the end of civilization.

Came home last night after working 15 hours, 9 am to midnight. Climb into bed, about three minutes later, the first thing she says, “are you mad at me?” I ask her, “Is it too much to expect to ask me how my day was and whether I’m doing all right after working for fifteen hours?” I got yelled at for the next 45 minutes. I love marriage.

I string girls along, hinting at marriage. I get lots of pussy, let them clean my place, cooking and all that. Then I create a reason for the breakup. Rinse and repeat.

I never quite figured out why the sexual urge of men & women differ so much. And I never have figured out the whole Venus and Mars thing. I have never figured out why men think with their head and women with their heart. I have never figured out why the sexual desire gene gets thrown into a state of turmoil, when it hears the words ‘I do.’ Here’s an example of what I mean. One evening last week, my wife and I were getting into bed. Well, the passion starts to heat up, and she eventually says ‘I don’t feel like it, I just want you to hold me.’ I said ‘WHAT????!!! What was that?! So she says the words that every husband on the planet dreads hearing…’You’re just not in touch with my emotional needs as a woman enough for me to satisfy your physical needs as a man.’ She then responded to my puzzled look by saying, “Can’t you just love me for who I am and not what I do for you in the bedroom?” Realizing that nothing was going to happen that night I went to sleep. The very next day I opted to take the day off from work to spend time with her. We went out to a nice lunch and then went shopping at a big, unnamed department store. I walked around with her while she tried on several different very expensive outfits. She couldn’t decide which one to take so I told her we’ll just buy them all. She wanted new shoes to compliment her new clothes, so I said lets get a pair for each outfit. We went on to the jewelry department where she picked out a pair of diamond earrings. Let me tell you…she was so excited. She must have thought I was one wave short of a shipwreck. I started to think she was testing me because she asked for a tennis bracelet when she doesn’t even know how to play tennis. I think I threw her for a loop when I said, ” That’s fine, honey.” Smiling with excited anticipation she finally said, ‘I think this is all dear, let’s go to the cashier’. I could hardly contain myself when I blurted out, ‘No honey, I don’t feel like it.’ Her face just went completely blank as her jaw dropped with a baffled ‘WHAT???!!!’ I then said, ‘Really honey! I just want you to HOLD this stuff for awhile. You’re just not in touch with my financial needs as a man enough for me to satisfy your shopping needs as a woman.’ And just when she had this look like she was going to kill me, I added, ‘Why can’t you just love me for who I am and not for the things I buy you?’ Apparently I’m not having sex tonight either, but at least that bitch knows I’m smarter than her. Give the worthless cunts a taste of their own medicine for a change.

How can my wife tell me that she’s “in love” with me and still leave me without sex for five years? How can I cope with this without resorting to divorce, affairs, or castration!!!

There is something that can be done. Men should just go their own way without women. No need for divorce if you never marry. No need to put up with crap if you never step in it. Keep the money we work hard for. Do what makes us happy.

I’m the one who works, but she can’t keep up her end of the bargain either sexually or in terms of housework. I run 4x a week, and she inhales Dove bars.

Men, as proven by their overwhelming superiority to women in every field requiring teamwork and/or rational thought, are more moral than women, more self sacrificing than women, and more interested in the real world than women.

I know of several successful, older businessmen who married foreign women that didn’t speak much English at all. They seem happier than most men. My ex was Korean and we were quite happy until she started mingling with ameriskanks. I knew there was trouble when she told me, ‘They asked me why are you with him; why do you cook for him,..’. I should have seen the red flags go off by that and corrected it before it got too late. For only that i am at fault, otherwise everything was going well: good income, going out, raising a child together, etc. i don’t think all american and western women are bad but a huge majority are (we have ears and we have eyes so don’t tell me otherwise). Reminds me of the saying ‘Misery Loves Company’. There are a lot of miserable women out there (like feminists) that can’t stand to see another woman happy in a marriage and will do anything to jeopardize the marriage. So what has become with my ex? She has joined the ranks of the single mother/divorced DPs that get f*cked and chucked by the 7% of men that 93% of women go for. Does it bother me? Not any longer, much happier just being a man going my own way.

“In the Anglosphere (US, UK, Canada, etc.), the media often reports of millionaires losing half or more of their fortunes to their predatory female ex-wives via the divorce courts. These millionaires are stupid. Just because you got millions, does not mean you got brains. Smart millionaires, such as one of my best friends, controls his assets, and does not own them. I have mentioned him on here before about his nasty divorce with a woman he found in Mexico. To recap, things were great for about 3 years, then this woman from Mexico turned into a total predatory female, just like the Anglosphere women are. Anyway, he gave me the final report of his divorce settlement. Since everything he owns and his profits from his real estate endeavors legally goes through his mom, and not him, he owns nothing, so there is nothing for the divorce court to award to his predatory female ex-wife. His predatory female ex-wife even tried to go after the assets that legally belonged to his mom, but this was laughed at by his attorney, who shredded the demand letter, and then she experienced the harsh reality that the divorce court was totally ineffective at “protecting her rights” since she was legally married to a man that legally owned nothing. She was not married to his mom, who owned everything. Furthermore, since he legally had no job, child support was very small, and since he will legally never have a job in the future, his child support payments will stay at a minimum. I believe the saying “By deception we will conquer” holds true for men in protecting their assets from predatory females in the Anglosphere. As my friend said, “The biatch actually thought I owned millions of dollars worth of property”, as he laughed his way out of the divorce court. Hence, by controlling assets in the Anglosphere, and not owning them, and becoming legally invisible in the labor market, a man can protect his millions whether by the scenario described above with good and loyal family members owning them or using trusts or corporations to protect them. Every man must prepare for the worse, hope for the best.”

YourAverageBloke2 · 2017-04-09T00:35:34+00:00

START of SECTION 9 of 9:

A young lady came home from a date, rather sad. She told her mother, “Jeff proposed to me an hour ago.” “Then why are you so sad?” her mother asked. “Because he also told me he was an atheist. Mom, he doesn’t even believe there’s a hell.” Her mother replied, “Marry him anyway. Between the two of us, we’ll show him how wrong he is.”

A woman and a man wanted to have a baby, so they went to the doctor to see if there was a way. When the doctor came in, told them about a new study that transfers all the pain from the mother to the father during delivery. hey both agreed to take part in the study. Later, when the woman went into labor, her husband was hooked up to the device to transfer the pain. After it was hooked up the doctor turned on the power. The man didn’t feel anything so he told the doctor to turn the power up. After the power was turned up the man still couldn’t feel anything. The doctor turned it up more. The man still couldn’t feel it. Finally, the doctor turned it up the whole way. The woman delivered a beautiful baby, and neither of them felt any pain. When they got home, the mailman was dead on the doorstep.

The Gen X Ameriskanks (or western skanks) seem to want to fit the mold of the Sex and the City skank. There is one thing that they seem to disregard though….CONSEQUENCES. Playing the victim will only get you so far until everyone wakes up to the bullshit. For example, my sister was a skank. Her sons grew up and left (they were tired of raising the divorced skank) and never even so much as call her now. No one else in the family wants to talk to her and everyone is tired of helping her out. Now she is just medicated(wow, I see that a lot these days) and living with the parents at 48 (and they want her out bad). And no one could give a rats ass, including me. I say let the Ameriskanks wallow in their misery. They have nothing to offer men. There are women in many countries who treat men really good (and I have lived in Asia for most of my adult life so I should know). If you need a woman, move there. But there is one good thing about this though…since women never think of the consequences of their actions, men can reap huge benefits ($) in the stock market and such by investing in small medical companies (that specialize in anti-depressants and such) and in cat food companies (the future skanks sole companion).

REPLY: Generation X women are garbage. They have worthless attitudes and expect men to cowtow to their unrealistic demands. I truly feel sorry for any man that married these things.

Honestly there are few women I can stand to listen to for more than 5 minutes. The level of self-absorption in American women is profound.

It is really scary how men that were once married tell me that they were always alone, only now they are divorced.

Women are never satisfied, no matter what you do, and marrying a being like this is a disaster waiting to happen.

Best thread ever. Read it all and save yourselves.

Arthur Schopenhauer’s essay “On Women.” “The fundamental defect of the female character is a lack of a sense of justice. This originates first and foremost in their want of rationality and capacity for reflection but it is strengthened by the fact that, as the weaker sex, they are driven to rely not on force but on cunning: hence their instinctive subtlety and their ineradicable tendency to tell lies: for as nature has equipped the lion with claws and teeth, the elephant with tusks, the wild boar with fangs, the bull with horns and the cuttlefish with ink, so it has equipped woman with the power of dissimulation as her means of attack and defense, and has transformed into this gift all the strength it has bestowed on man in the form of physical strength and the power of reasoning.”

Day 485 without sex. No, I’m not fat or ugly. Yes, I’ve declined opportunities with other women in that time. No, I would not recommend that any man get married.

My wife was great. She was hot and funny and nice. When we had our first child she replaced me with the child. She used to be frugal, but then she charged up the credit cards so much that it was like using drugs. Now 18 years later we are fucked beyond belief. She also does not have sex with me for two weeks at a time and thinks it’s normal. So I cracked and got a mistress. I should have divorced her long ago for my own survival, but I did not have the heart and still don’t.

Long ago, I had friends tell me to never get married and never buy a house with a pool. They were so very right about the pool. It is a major complication in my life and a money pit. If they were so very right about the pool, I can’t but wonder about the rest.

Women, especially those career chick American women, hate men that live well without them. American career chick women that I know, seem to constantly devise schemes and such to draw me into their miserable lives, but I just ignore them and continue about doing the things I want to in life and living well. I am sure I am not the exception to this, with American career chick women trying to sucker some other man into their miserable world of cats, television, and awful attitudes that don’t attract men – and they wonder why they are single? By living well, you will also find that certain men will hate you too (this is called jealousy), but who cares, they have crap jobs as some type of salary man at big corporation X or what not, to support some nagging, abusive, demeaning wife under threat of divorce and losing it all or some ex-wife via alimony and child support, or have to put up with some biatch American girlfriend, but you go home to peace and quiet, enjoying a fine cigar and cognac, contemplating what country to visit next in your pursuit of being a world traveler and connaisseur extraordinaire. You might entertain thoughts of having a family or kids, but then you look around at those that do here in the US, and realize, you won’t be getting off at that stop. Wait for it, plenty of women in world, plenty of countries, pick a place you find that has good laws supporting men’s rights and family and such, and pitch your tent there if you so desire a family. In the meantime, live well, for every second you do such, you are giving the middle finger to countless people around you caught up in the system as well as the system itself, and you remain free. Indeed, as they say, living well is the best revenge.

YourAverageBloke2 · 2017-04-09T00:37:56+00:00

Hmm... this is kind of a shame. I was expecting more interest in this thread. I guess I shouldn't have posted it on a Saturday night!

plutosheen · 2017-04-09T02:58:51+00:00

Thank you for this. This right here is the Dead Sea scrolls of the Manosphere.

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YourAverageBloke2 · 2017-04-08T23:13:50+00:00

START of SECTION 4 of 9:

[My wife’s great] REPLY 1: Talk to me in 5 more years. REPLY 2: Too fucking true. First couple of years of marriage were OK but then her inner bitch surfaced. Now it’s just one long monologue of pain. “Bob and Cindy just got a new minivan. Cindy thought they needed it because she wants to have three kids soon. When are we going to have kids? Do you like silver minivans? I think silver’s a great color for a family car. I want two girls and one boy. Do you think we’ll be able to afford private school or are you going to have to get a better job? Silver goes with all my black outfits. Have you fixed the door squeak yet?” and on and on and on.

[Quoting a guy’s wife] “Do you think we’ll be able to afford private school or are you going to have to get a better job?” REPLY: This illustrates the root of the problem perfectly. Women’s perceptions are all distorted. Note how this issue, to the woman, is a false dichotomy–can we afford private school or do you need a better job. This is the extent of their ability to reason. This causes all of the conflict.

an earlier poster said to look at the mother to see what the GF will end up being. That’s true enough, but look at the father as well. If he appears worn down and henpecked then take a good look at your own future.

Education, region, status, and income. The more educated a woman is the more feminist lies she will believe. Urban women have impossible expectations unless you are Donald Trump, and even he’s been divorced a few times. High status women need a man far above them in status. The more money a woman makes the more likely she is to divorce you. Marry an uneducated, poor, nice girl from the country.

It was when I started standing up to my wife rather that pussy-footing around and trying to appease her that things changed for the better. I don’t mean being abrasive or abusive, just not backing down from my honest judgment and only compromising when convinced, not when pressured.

It all comes down to evolution. Physically, women are smaller, weaker, slower and more vulnerable. If they’re saddled with children, without a male around to defend them, everyone dies. Therefore, they’re hard-wired to seek the strongest, most powerful male they can, and to seek out power, because their lives depended on it. Things haven’t changed — modern society is just a recent blip in evolutionary time. Women are hard-wired to understand pure power, because they have none. That’s why they’re constantly testing. That’s why they’re so compassionless. That’s why they’re not especially spiritual, or creative, relative to men. They’re too concerned about staying alive to dream or invent. That’s why they’re so shitty at working in teams with other women — they’re always seeking to develop their own power, and don’t really understand what a team is, or how it works. That’s why infidelity drives them so nuts — they need one male they can control, who will stay around and protect them. Women are created by nature to be Machiavellian, and materialistic — store up supplies for the drought/famine/winter — and this thread proves it. REPLY: There’s too much raw truth in this (although women are more than this too) for the PC crowd to admit to any of it.

I’ve found (at least with my wife) that anything I say to her in a logical way will be reprocessed thru her head to mean something other than what I’ve actually meant to say. I think that sometimes she does this on purpose, but I’m not sure.

So, here’s my story. Tough day at work. Arrive home to find wife allegedly had tough day at home with kids. She says she’s tired, and obviously she’s in a bad mood. I offer to do the dishes, and she refuses. So, as I do most nights, I put the two youngest to bed, then spend an hour playing chess with the older one, before putting her to bed. Right before this, my wife asked me if I was going to do the dishes. I said, “sure” and she went out to Blockbuster to get a DVD. At the end of the whole process of putting the kids in bed, I emerge, and find my wife finishing the dishes, angry. She begins to ream me out for not doing the dishes, and I say something like, look, I just finished putting the kids to bed. She then goes over and tries to put a DVD in the player. It jams — we’ve been having trouble with it lately — and she smashes her fist into it, breaking it, and the VCR, and begins ranting about how she’s sick of living in the house we live in, and so on. Basically, abusive. I respond by saying, literally, “Go abuse someone else, bitch.” She then responds with a string of four letter words, and stomps out. I leave the house, and go to the gym. When I return two hours later, she’s in bed and asleep, and my pillows are on the living room floor — sleep out here, tonight, buddy. That’s fine with me — I was planning to sleep in the living room anyway. We haven’t had sex in two months. We have three young children — a divorce would be a disaster. I own my own business, and after three years of ass-busting effort, with absolutely no support from her, it’s finally taking off. I’m past the point of wondering why this happened to me, but I’m kind of amazed. Someone has to have a shitty marriage. Someone has to marry the bitch. Someone has to be trapped. Look, it’s me! I mean, I’m a grown man, and I have someone in my house who repeatedly has these psychodramas, and now it’s part of my life, too. It’s a weird situation. On the one hand, you don’t want to be a beta and put up with this shit. On the other, you also don’t want three little kids to grow up in an atmosphere of constant warfare, fighting and so on. And she’s almost completely incapable of rationally discussing an issue, and working together to arrive at some kind of workable solution. It’s all demands, irrational rage, and pouting. If there were no children, I’d simply leave. But I can’t. So you begin to develop this really bizarre relationship where you emotionally isolate her, acting sort of semi-normal, but not letting her know anything about what you really feel or want because she’ll use it against you. I lie constantly. You know, as I type this, about fifteen feet away is a DVD player with the spindle, or whatever you call it, open and the shelf sticking out, jammed, broken and useless. The VCR slot where the tape goes is gaping open, too, broken and useless. And this kind of stuff is part of the fabric of my life, like my jeans, and my car keys. It’s like having someone spray-paint obscenities on the living-room wall, and just pretending it isn’t there. But you have to. I don’t know where this hate-filled child came from, but I can’t just make her stop. REPLY: The sad thing is that there are 10 of these stories for every one that has some crap about “my wife is my best friend blah blah blah”. Gentlemen, the above is the norm. It isn’t any better for your neighbor than it is for you. This is life for those of us men who marry.

Let’s put it this way. Brad Pitt was married to Jenifer Aniston. A big time celebrity who brought home tens of millions of dollars and even he couldn’t stand being married. Husband=Misery.

only boneheads marry REPLY: Speaking as someone married for 23 years, I AGREE WITH YOU! Stupidest fucking thing I ever did. I seem to remember thinking I was going to get lots of pussy from her or something equally inane.

The one-dimensional zero-experience assholes who say “suck it up and be an alpha” have no idea how fucked up women can get. the poster who said you never really let them in your head or heart any more is exactly right. of all the people i wanted to be able to relax and let my guard down around, it was her. now she has no clue what i am ever thinking. cunts can remember and produce during the next argument shit you told them from 15 years ago. That’s what they do all day – memorize what you’ve told them. guys do it baseball stats – cunts do it with your own words, readying them like ammo for the next round of torture.

Truthfully i don’t have the best marriage, and what i found that helped when i saw i was being taken advantage of was to communicate my feelings and if needed leave him for a day or two, so he can appreciate what i do. This does work for me, but unfortunately he goes back to being his old self. So i don’t have a long term solution. I think what we see after a marriage in ones SO is their character, which was masked over with the personality and looks that we fell in love with.

goadsaid · 2017-04-08T23:54:49+00:00

Yupp. I'd say women who are married to successful men are the most "depressed" women out there. They're so depressed because they have nothing to legitimately complain about. My mom was always depressed - you know.. being married to a lawyer, living in the suburbs in a well to do area, not having a job, sleeping whenever... Her life was horrible. What could she do u know?

DeusExMaximum · 2017-04-09T03:04:43+00:00

Can you make a zipped folder of all of the files for us to download?

frikabg · 2017-04-09T03:39:03+00:00

Very nice info and a very good read BUT some of the info is outdated like for example this whole 'marry a dumb chick who can't find a work so she can rely on you' advice seems to be wrong since the moment you marry her you are in a no win position and she will fuck you up the ass with the help of the government. You know it they know it the government knows it and no one hides it anymore you are fucked and you will pay! Still good read :)

Phoenixed · 2017-04-09T10:55:58+00:00

This is indeed legendary. It should be stickied.

fruguy · 2017-04-09T05:17:19+00:00

This is awesome. Thanks OP.

fezha · 2017-04-09T09:55:01+00:00

This is some good stuff. I drank an energy drink. Im spending my Sunday reading this.

spiralings · 2017-04-09T13:08:14+00:00

Saved. Saved for life. If this post gets 'stickied', it would save millions of lives. Prob the first thing someone would read when they visit this sub the first time.

AdolfSchmitler · 2017-04-10T00:15:12+00:00

OP you've truly done God's work. Thank you

dominotw · 2017-04-09T03:52:42+00:00

ah same old. men are sex crazed simpletons, women are mysterious enigmas.

Fuck ( or don't) women. Make money.

Tyler789228 · 2017-04-09T14:21:06+00:00

Thanks OP

wokeaspie · 2017-04-09T15:38:43+00:00

Thanks for compiling all this! I'll find it handy to nip any backsliding in the bud should temptation rear its ugly head. Hope you don't mind, but I've thrown all the sections into a RTF for anybody interested.

spiralings · 2017-04-09T18:56:19+00:00

I read every single one. Loved them all, thanks for formatting.

I greatly enjoyed the dudes description of his lazy ass day without anyone squawking at him to mow the lawn

oldmanlogan76 · 2017-04-10T13:52:20+00:00

Excellent post. Thank you.

the_unseen_one · 2017-04-16T02:58:38+00:00

Fucking awesome post man. A little hard to read due to the different votes on the comments, but I read every single section. There were some hard truths in there, but I'll come back here if I ever find myself thinking marriage is a good idea.

BajingoArsonist · 2017-04-09T13:21:41+00:00

"The main reason why men get married in the first place is because he is with the first woman who excites him and gives him exclusive and consistent access to her overrated pussy." No truer words have been said about why we marry women.

To the OP, THANK YOU! for all this.

soullessgeth · 2017-04-09T04:49:25+00:00

this is like redpill bullshit not mgtow fuck that

Do Not Get Married - Legendary Thread

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2: What does she watch? Does she watch shows that are challenging? exciting? movies and series as opposed to soap operas?

Title	Do Not Get Married - Legendary Thread
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Date	April 8, 2017 10:27 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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