Feeling empty all the time

captainsaveahoe69 · 2020-10-28T07:36:18+00:00

Women are not the answer. I've been married twice and lived with other women. Yes they can temporarily amelorate those feelings (like a drug hint hint), but they will not go away.

We are social creatures and need other people so bare that in mind and act accordingly.

It's something we all live with to a certain extent, learn how to deal with those feelings and channel them elsewhere.

I'd say more but other probably have good suggestions too.

Best of luck.

FridgeSnickers · 2020-10-28T08:14:41+00:00

I believe that the emptiness you feel is typical for men in their early 20s. You're not alone. The feeling that you're behind compared to your peers, the uncertainty. It's all part of the process man.

What helped me weather through that shit storm and my earlier stages of MGTOW was by taking action. Choosing to filter life through the lens of an MGTOW. Choosing to love myself and put myself first. Journaling. Working hard at my full time job. Training consistently at the gym. Spending time on my hobbies. Cultivating my relationships with a very select few group of family and friends.

You take focused action for a while and you end up not being in your head so much. Women and feeling touch starved aren't so much a bother at that point because there's more important things to worry about. I also wanna mention that emotional pain is a constant in everybody's life and that there's no way to remove it. You just become stronger as you weather through each one and the next one isn't as bad as the last one.

I hope you find your way.

Occasion-Mental · 2020-10-28T08:50:04+00:00

Yes, humans a social creatures and need the herd to be around. It's tough in your 20's, i remember the loneliness myself, it was a horrible time. But it passes and once you get over that 25 year barrier when the male brain is fully developed and i knew who i was, then i saw real joy in my life, i started to no longer care what others thought, did want i wanted, when i wanted. It was a glorious time of being able to give to others and share & help where i could (stuffed it all up by getting a woman pregnant when i was 38, so watch out for complacency), but it takes time to get there.

The best person to make you happy is yourself, nobody can do it for you in reality, the joy of sex is fleeting. Emotional pain is everywhere, it's a constant in being alive, unless you're a sociopath its something we all feel and observe. Please don't be down on it as without it we would not have the capacity for empathy.

How do i live life...day by day...every morning is a fresh start, the trick is to not give up.

prbonfanti · 2020-10-28T13:20:15+00:00

I will tell from experience, was this way for too many years but let add how it goes.Life is uncertain, and you can't know the future, clinical anxiety issues is very bad, you don't want to stay on meds, focus in the present, and make your actual health the first thing.There is a illusion women will care about you, it is not true, they care about you can provide and discard later, think about the sirens and dead sailors at bottom of ocean.I see you have a issue with sex, but the "love" for me is just a disguise to sexual attraction so we don't perceive how primitive and animalistic are our motivations.I am still on the processing if love it is not really a fraud to dominate men, as nullify our logical thinking and make us to do things detrimental to our self. As said in 'The Manipulated Men' by a woman :

"MAN HAS BEEN MANIPULATED by woman to the point where he cannot live without her and therefore will do anything she asks of him. He fights for his life and calls it love. There are even men who will threaten their idolized female with suicide unless she accepts him. Not that this is much of a risk for them – they have nothing to lose.

Woman, nevertheless, is incapable of living without man. Like a queen bee, she cannot survive on her own. She, too, is fighting for her life, and she, too, calls it love. They each need one another, in fact, and it seems therefore that they share at least one sentiment. The cause, nature, and consequences of this sentiment, however, differ as much as do the sexes.

To a woman love means power, to a man enslavement. Love provides woman with an excuse for financial exploitation, man with an emotionally charged excuse. “For the sake of love” woman will do things that are of advantage only to herself, while man does only those things that will harm him. When a woman marries, she gives up her career “for the sake of love.”When a man marries, he will have to work for two “for the sake of love.”For both sexes, love is a fight for survival. But the one survives only by being victorious, the other only by being defeated."

Emotions are a trouble i admit, my point the better we can do is to act and take decisions based in facts and logical, women do the contrary and we all see how it goes.I cannot give you a straight answer you need to build your own, you can accept the animal issues and to be above them most of time, i recommend old phylosophers, in my case that helps a lot, Nietschze explained:

"“Man is a rope stretched between the animal and the Superman--a rope over an abyss.A dangerous crossing, a dangerous wayfaring, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous trembling and halting."

Gautama Budha had luxury and women and decided to go away, by some reason, he went away and illuminated himself. The first noble truth of budhism it is:

"Now this, bhikkhus, is the noble truth of suffering: birth is suffering, aging is suffering, illness is suffering, death is suffering; union with what is displeasing is suffering; separation from what is pleasing is suffering; not to get what one wants is suffering; in brief, the five aggregates subject to clinging are suffering.

Now this, bhikkhus, is the noble truth of the origin of suffering: it is this craving [taṇhā, "thirst"] which leads to re-becoming, accompanied by delight and lust, seeking delight here and there; that is, craving for sensual pleasures, craving for becoming, craving for disbecoming.

Now this, bhikkhus, is the noble truth of the cessation of suffering: it is the remainderless fading away and cessation of that same craving, the giving up and relinquishing of it, freedom from it, non-reliance on it.

Now this, bhikkhus, is the noble truth of the way leading to the cessation of suffering: it is this noble eightfold path; that is, right view, right intention, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration"

Trung Rinpoche said about love:"Although often expressed as loving kindness, it is important to note that Buddhism makes a strict distinction of compassion from what it calls grasping love and attachment. Love, when seen as desire, necessarily leads to suffering. In this way, love is seen as a need to attach oneself to others in order to achieve a sense of security and belonging (Trungpa, 1973)"

Stoicism don't deny the harsh realities too, it is worth some study:

"Some things are in our control, while others are not. We control our opinion, choice, desire, aversion, and, in a word, everything of our own doing. We don’t control our body, property, reputation, position, and, in a word, everything not of our own doing. Even more, the things in our control are by nature free, unhindered, and unobstructed, while those not in our control are weak, slavish, can be hindered, and are not our own.”

—EPICTETUS, ENCHIRIDION, 1.1–2"

Schopenhauer:"“A man can be himself only so long as he is alone; and if he does not love solitude, he will not love freedom; for it is only when he is alone that he is really free.”

― Arthur Schopenhauer, Essays and Aphorisms"

Jiddu Khrisshnamurti:

"As long as one is escaping from loneliness, there is no essential difference between the worship of God and addiction to alcohol. Socially, there may be a difference; but psychologically, the man who runs away from himself, from his own emptiness, whose escape is his search for God, is on the same level as the drunkard."

----"You say you love your wife. You depend on her; she has given you her body, her emotions, her encouragement, a certain feeling of security and well-being. Then she turns away from you; she gets bored or goes off with someone else, and your whole emotional balance is destroyed, and this disturbance, which you don’t like, is called jealousy. There is pain in it, anxiety, hate and violence. So what you are really saying is, ‘As long as you belong to me I love you but the moment you don’t I begin to hate you."

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— Jiddu Krishnamurti (Freedom from the Known)"You know, if we understand one question rightly, all questions are answered. But we don't know how to ask the right question. To ask the right question demands a great deal of intelligence and sensitivity. Here is a question, a fundamental question: is life a torture? It is, as it is; and man has lived in this torture centuries upon centuries, from ancient history to the present day, in agony, in despair, in sorrow; and he doesn't find a way out of it. Therefore he invents gods, churches, all the rituals, and all that nonsense, or he escapes in different ways. What we are trying to do, during all these discussions and talks here, is to see if we cannot radically bring about a transformation of the mind, not accept things as they are, nor revolt against them. Revolt doesn't answer a thing. You must understand it, go into it, examine it, give your heart and your mind, with everything that you have, to find out a way of living differently. That depends on you, and not on someone else, because in this there is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour. You yourself are the teacher and the pupil; you are the Master; you are the guru; you are the leader; you are everything. And to understand is to transform what is.I think that will be enough, won't it?"--------

There is not straight simple answer, and your question is not the main one, i can only say you are not first, will not be the last, but there are many ways to approach and you need to make your own, but don't need to be from zero, wiser men walked this earth and their wisdom can help us even now. And many men still alive have experience from you can learn from, there is not need to burn your hand to know it fire burns.

silly_birb · 2020-10-28T09:43:18+00:00

Imo what you are craving is intimacy with aa woman, but at the same time you know that you won't get it even after reaching sex.

It would feel dumb if for a man sex is an intimate act while the woman is so used up that sex is on the same level of a shoulder massage.

One solution is to be part of a brotherhood. Men always had men spaces to balance things out, just think about golf that stands for "gentlemen only ladies forbidden".

For me i always had some group i was part of, in highschool i had a band, at college i had an online gaming group of few friends, now i have a D&D group. I always had a once per week schedule and it was enough to keep going and focus on my life the rest of the week.

Rottinghere · 2020-10-28T10:34:53+00:00

When this Covid madness finally clears up, you should take some time to do some traveling. It can really do a good job of clearing your mind.

fphilippe35 · 2020-10-28T21:27:50+00:00

Read interesting books. I've hated reading in my youth because of the kind of books they told me to read. Then I've discovered books I like by myself.

usnraptor · 2020-10-29T13:39:08+00:00

Get a dog or cat.

Title	Feeling empty all the time
Author	Budget_Shift
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Date	October 28, 2020 7:09 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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