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Girls have hearts?
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Stop, my penis can only get so erect
[–]DangZagnut0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link
This place has got to get banned. how can you insult and degrade women when there are so many great female authors, scientists and generally good women in the world?
By your logic you glorify Nazis because they made some cool rockets?
"This place?" You mean all the linked articles? So you're sayin' the world? So the internet is mean? I just now linked an article from a Swiss Website, how does that show /r/mgtow to be the bad guys? Because we provided a link? I guess that makes google insulting and degrading to women.
Can you imagine a young girl reading this and taking what you people have said to heart?
Maybe she would become a better person. But as we all know, women are shielded from anything that might affect their delicate sensibilities. You think little girls cruise reddit subs unrelated to ones that glorify them?
There are defects in the character of females,
Yes, and it's important that everyone on Earth knows that. Because there seems to be about 100% of women and 99.99% percent of men that do not understand women have any flaws at all.
just as men have a tendency towards callousness and violence,
That's great. But since the entirety of the internet and main stream media and universities project how horrible men are at every opportunity, then this brings a little balance. Who else is going to talk about society being gynocentric or how relationships have turned into a shit show. See a lot of people talking about it? #MeToo
but that does not justify the bigotry and hatred you people are espousing
Right, because you're part of the 100% who can't handle any concept of criticism of the glorified vagina. You're so programmed to think it's perfect, and picking on a girl is "THE HORROR" because women are perfect little angels who are weak and pathetic and so needing rescuing who need a strong white knighting to keep them chaste and safe and on a pedestal. If you're a woman, you clearly are incapable of even admitting you have flaws, if you're a man, trying to stand up for them here is pointless. There are no girls here to impress and possibly fuck. Go back to being an orbiter desperate for her to pay attention to you.
Get ready to join the incels.
Good luck with that. Don't you have some panties to sniff or your girlfriend's lover to lick clean after he uses her?
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[–]DangZagnut0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Let me grant you ALL of your points about women in relationships. Time to let go and move on to more important things.
It's not necessary, because all those points are facts, but ok.
Let's say that the influx of women into science leads to Alzheimer's being cured ten years sooner than it would otherwise (and there are very good reasons to suppose that something like this is actually the outcome of certain aspects of the feminist movement).
The moon is made of cheese. We can all make up propositions. There's no reason to think feminism will do anything about alzheimers. They just hate men, as you accuse us of hating women. So who cares about them and their made up problems? They're just bitter old dykes.
Now that having been said, the only thing stopping feminists from doing all these magical things that feminists have never done in any way ever, is that they keep sticking women in feminists marxist studies programs, instead of anything "science" oriented because that would be "work", and feminists don't want work.
Do you think that ANY of the content in this sub is aimed towards achieving anything like that? No.
Because this isn't /r/CureDiseases, Have you recently complained about all the scientific cures that /r/feminism hasn't put out lately?
You focus on such a narrow degree of human concerns that you give a HORRIBLY distorted view of what the largest ethical problems in the world today really are, and women's supposed complicity in them
That narrow degree that is the biggest part of the human experience in society and culture? Hooking up, marrying, and making babies?
No, that's just some side quest while you're doing the main quest in the game of life. Seriously? Relationships are just some minor thing? And the view is "horribly distorted?" You're the one living in denial. Stop sniffing panties and figure out just how much of your life is worshipping women on pedestals. That's assuming you're a soy boy and not another girl cosplaying as a boy.
As you were told before, all that's happening is equality. It has to be shown that women are just as horrible as the constant yammering about men being horrible. But women seem to have gotten off easy, proving how gynocentric society is that you can't even criticize women when they do or say horrible things. Because princesses need people like you to sniff their panties and worship at the crotch of the vagina. So much so that you can't possibly think there's a single thing wrong with them. Doesn't it strike you odd that there's this angelic magical creature that has not a single thing wrong with them? Couldn't, maybe, your view be distorted that only one sex is evil, and the other is perfect? That's quite a religion you've bought into.
I will (tentatively) grant you every point about women's Machiavellianism and false claims to innocence - but do you think that putting as much emphasis on these things does society as a whole any good?
You're granting nothing, and you don't believe it. If you believed it, you could easily, say, come up with a dozen (or even just 6) things that are "bad" about women in today's gynocentric society. Hell how about 6 things bad about feminism. We'll wait.
Does putting emphasis on it do good? Of course it does. It protects men from the waste of time relationships are with these people.
Let's put it another way, does putting emphasis on all men being rapists or #MeToo do any good? Does feminists attacking men all day every day in every type of media do any good? Does feminists making up lies and fake statistics do any good? Does 1-in-4 rapes do any good? Does vilifying an entire class of the population do any good?
Apparently it does, so when you turn your bitching to them, which based on your post history you don't, then perhaps you'll have further weight in your arguments.
It's almost like fixating on the discrepancy in IQ between whites and blacks. What good does it do? It may be true, it may have some consequence in society, but what does it actually matter in the grand scheme of things? What good comes of OBSESSING over it in the way that this sub does?
Because men are fucked over royally because of the panty sniffing fantasy you have, and unlike feminism, we have an end goal, which is every single man on Earth knows the real deal, and the final fantasy narrative about women is absolutely destroyed, and the end of gynocentrism in society. When that's accomplished, MGTOW will cease to exist. Feminism, of course, being an actual hate group, will never end, because they have no end goal.
Of course you hate men, so why would you want men to be protected in any way? Of course not, panties need sniffing.
Get some perspective. And how adult of you to resort to ad hominems to conclude your argument. I can name a dozen women who have more integrity and intellectual honesty than you do.
Shaming doesn't work. Everyone sees your bullshit coming a mile away. You'll get no converts, and your opinions, though amusing, will change no one's mind. Ad hominem are used because you're a simp of a man, or a useless cunt of a woman. And there are no "arguments" or "debate". You came here, if you don't like it, there's the door. Go back to /r/cuckold and stroke it or whatever you people are into.
It's good you can name a dozen whole women out of 3.5 billion. Can you name a thousand? You'd still be closer to zero. Also, no one cares. Women in relationships are the problem. Women occasionally being propped up by men and given credit for minor discoveries isn't impressive.
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[–]DangZagnut0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You are by your own admission some cunt who works for businesses and screens out SJW's.
Absolutely I have. Although I don't expect you to understand the technical aspects of it. And firing SJWs? Gets my penis very erect. If it makes you feel better, there is a very positive correlation between the effectiveness of an employee, and how much of a SJW they are. Because SJWs are useless in the corporate world. They can sit around and complain and file lawsuits, but they rarely actually have any skills. People who want to gain skills don't major in feminist studies, which don't help the evil corporate world.
How do you stack up to, say, one of the female data scientists working for Google, publishing papers that get more citations than you ever will?
Don't care, most of my work is covered under NDAs. So I don't publish some of the rather fascinating things I've done. Because the only people that care about publishing things are academics, who rarely accomplish anything. If some taco at google is some amazing data scientist, good for her. I couldn't give a shit. My concerns are the two standard deviations on the bell curve, not the outliers. Smart people are smart people and aren't causing problems with the world. Stupid people are causing all the problems. Now you could argue men and women are both stupid, but no one talks about the stupid women, so we take the opportunity to do so. You just don't like that we do, because you worship the vagina. Your issue is that not everyone else does. So either we're all wrong, or you're wrong, and you're incapable of admitting you're wrong, so therefore we must be wrong and everything we say is fully insane.
That is, in fact, the point. Trashing women in the way that is commonplace here does nothing to address the world's (quantifiably) biggest problems.
I have no idea what your point is. As far as addressing the biggest problems, you already mentioned it. By removing as many SJWs from the workforce and putting them on unemployment, which they prefer anyway being avowed marxists, they are neutered and denied funding that makes them have any power.
You're welcome. I'm doing my part.
Worthless cunt of a person. You are nothing.
You're probably right, but then I didn't come to your place and start bitching about whatever nonsense you're into.
Your'e in danger of doing those ad hominems you were worried about. Don't want to lose frame "bro".
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[–]DangZagnut0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Point is the following: the ideas here encourage men to hold women in low regard
Women and a gynocentric society have encouraged men to hold women in low regard. It's not this subreddit's fault. Pointing out articles they could easily google themselves isn't what's doing it. It's that feminists, society, women, and cucks continue to push a narrative with does not mesh with reality.
It is very easy to observe reality, and see another group pretending that a distorted view of reality exists.
and to belittle the achievements that they have made, and the potential they have for making a meaningful impact in science.
Very little achievements, but that's probably due to the patriarchy holding women down and stealing all their ideas. Much like how they make 70% the income of men, but men are so evil they won't hire women exclusively to keep their salary expense down. The misogyny is that powerful that corporations will actively lose millions just to not hire women at 2/3 the cost of men.
If women invent something amazing in science that actually is useful, then good for them. Are you getting it yet? Some woman accomplishing something isn't a problem. It's marrying and cohabitation with them and subsidizing their way in life that's the problem. Mocking what stupid people do on social media is just icing on the cake. And funny.
I mean, you're getting off mocking me, surely you can imagine how enjoyable mocking some narcissistic clam on Tinder is?
What good could ever come of this?
Saving men from misery. I know that doesn't matter to you, but it does matter to 50% of the species.
And I would seriously question your characterization of these successful scientists as "outliers".
Tell the nobel prize people about outliers. And this may be hard to believe, but 99% of the population does nothing of value in society. Maybe, and I'm being generous, 1% of the population does something vaguely interesting, a book, a movie, acting, bowling, nascar, football, tennis, porn, fishing, whatever. And of that tiny 1%, maybe 1% of them to anything vaguely scientific. I assure you they are outliers. Men or women, but thanks to patriarchy, apparently women are forced into feminists studies programs instead of STEM so there's a lot less of them in that 1% of 1%. So maybe 1% of 1% of 1% are women doing amazing things in science. They're outliers. Not the mainstream.
Then again, you'll probably respond with some witty remark about how i am really a cuck or something like that instead of hard data or genuine concern about the issues at hand.
Well we've established you're either a woman LARPing as a man, or a man LARPing as a white knight. Not that it matters although you seem concerned.
You are pathetic.
Truer words have never been spoken.
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[–]DangZagnut0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh you're one of the 72 genders? I was basing it on biological sex, where you were either a male or female of the species. I suppose you could be intersex, but I'm not sure how that changes the tack of the conversation. As it isn't about that.
If you aren't biologically female, I can't be misogynist toward you by definition. If you aren't biologically male, then you can't be a panty sniffer.
Of course, you could be butt pirate or carpet muncher, so that would naturally add a new wrinkle to the conversation, and explain your motivations, but that hasn't come up and I haven't mentioned your orientation anyway.
Although I'll assume you're not a gay male, based on past experiences where gay men tend not to waste this much time defending women for obvious reasons. Perhaps your'e one of those "outliers" I keep hearing about. You could be a lesbian, but then lesbians are well aware what a pain women can be, which explains why they top the domestic violence statistics.
But you've defended women and came in as a concern troll, which some feminists do, but you've attempted to use logic and reason, and past women lose that ability within about 15 minutes, so I'll go with white knight, hence the original panty sniffing cuck comments. Of course, I could be wrong.
you are making my charge of misogyny quite understandable here.
Not sure how, if anything, it shows misandry against cucks.
Also, why do cucks have such a problem being called cucks? It's weird. Simp doesn't seem to be a problem, blue pill doesn't seem to have a problem. But "cuck" really seems to be a problem, which is odd because this is the "year of the cuckold" according to articles written lately.
Somehow, you think that you are able to infer my gender or my orientation towards women from the claims that I am making?
I just gave you reasons why my initial dedication was cuck, but again, I could be wrong, maybe it's a false positive.
Why don't you add "Jew" to the list?
You haven't really said or done anything particular Jewish. Also, why would I care if you're a Jew? There are plenty of Jewish MGTOW, in fact there was just an article about how shitty Israeli woman are these days.
Question? Is this considered misandry?
Is this considered rape culture?
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[–]DangZagnut0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
And I just have to point out what an amazing non-sequitur that Nazi equivalence was.
Which is why you can't answer that. Because it shows how stupid your statement is. You're glorifying a group of idiots because they wrote some romance? That's the best you got? Without scanning wikipedia? So naturally you would glorify nazis because they were good at rocket building.
Just because you don't like the analogy doesn't make it wrong.
Also, Elon Musk is a man, I know that was an oversight, but focus on all der powerful wymmins.
Your arguments are "refuted" already because your arguments don't matter. This isn't a debate. I don't know if there's been some confusion, but this has been mocking, to amuse the crowd. No one cares that our 15th panty sniffer of the week has come in with the standard blame and shame and frame discussion. You folks come in here every. single. day. And you all say the same thing. At least come in saying something different. I mean, it's pretty bad when I can think of better "arguments" than you.
Oh look! Jane Austen wrote a book! As if writing a book has been a challenge for anyone male or female. Or Madame Curie killed herself learning about radiation! Yay.
You seem, like all the others, confused that no one gives a shit about women. Apathy, not hatred, although you types never understand that. Not caring about women is not hating them, although it is far more evil. Pointing out horrible things women say or do on social media is not hatred, it's pointing out that they have the capacity to be horrible, something society cannot acknowledge, and it's interesting that the only possible options is misogyny or hatred. That just shows how gynocentric the world you live in doesn't it?
Relationships with women in a gynocentric society is the problem. Don't marry them, don't live with them, don't pay for them. If they want to sit around writing Twilight or 50 Shades of Grey, no one gives a shit. Want to go do, whatever miraculous thing women do that men have done for 400 years? Great. Knock yourselves out.
Leaving us alone is the goal, but apparently feminists and their cucks (whichever one you are) just can't stand to be ignored or mocked. Again, please list all the feminists you've called out for drinking male tears, or calling for the genocide of men. But I guess that doesn't count as a problem since women are weak and stupid and are children that aren't held accountable for their actions.
It's pretty sad that MGTOW are more feminist than feminists, in which, as "equals" they should be treated the same, have their shit called out, and not treat them like children. Which means not protecting them from their shitty decisions or stupid shit they say. Almost like equals in that social regard. But of course, treating a woman as equal is misogynistic, because it's not sniffing their panties.
I find this interesting that you care at all, because aren't we all disgusting neckbeards and incels and cheeto dust covered horrible basement dwellers cleaning our fedoras? Why do you care what such disgusting smelly pathetic weasels think or do anyway? We're so far below you that we don't even matter do we? But you seem awfully concerned....
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[–]DangZagnut0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
i'm sorry women fucked you over.
I've never been fucked over by a woman. But keep trying that shame and blame frame thing. We're well aware of your standard "Oh you can't get women that's why you're MGTOW" or "You've been hurt by women so that's why you're MGTOW".
It can't just be that women are just not worth long term relationships can it? Nah. That would be impossible. I mean all men are rapists and if a man doesn't want a woman to marry then he must be broken or hurt in some way.
Feel free to explain all the reasons someone should get married? Compared to just fucking the women you desire and moving on? The narrative is all men are rapists not all men are husbands.
Convince us why we should marry or cohabitate. You seem concerned. Start the pro-marriage debate? But you can't, so all you have is "YOU HATE DER WIMMINS".
Surely you have some strong arguments as to why we should?
Enjoy this place while it lasts.
I know this is upsetting, but the reddit admins have no problem with /r/MGTOW. As much as you wish they would get rid of it, which will stop nothing by the way, we aren't going anywhere.
Reddit is absolutely irrelevant to the spread of information we provide. :) There are far more lucrative platforms for that.
[–]DagonNaxos 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How can feminists say such dastardly things like "all men are rapists" and "if you're ugly and look at me, it's rape" and "#killallmen, when there are a lot of great men out there who built society, technology and all of the things you take for granted every day?
But, you know, men are just utilities, unless they are in the top 20% of SMV, so who cares. They just keep the world running. Nothing special.
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