Ok this is a crazy rollercoaster. Also I know this is pretty fucked up but Natalie is a nice girl, she’s my best friend.
We graduated high school this summer so our friends and I all went on a small vacation to Italy. We found a Groupon thing online so it wasn’t too expensive. Natalie is dating Eric but he didn’t come on the trip with us. It was basically a whole bunch of friends from our senior class. It’s pretty well known among us friends that Dylan who is in our high school, likes Natalie. He’s like really into her. Well when we all went to Europe, since Eric wasn’t there, Natalie was all over Dylan. Acting like a couple, being all flirty. They’d SLEEP in the same bed but she’d insist nothing was going on and they were just friends. Well, I shared a room with Natalie and I walked in on them having sex. Afterwards I asked her what she was doing since she was dating Eric and she said she was on vacation and it was a one time thing. It was not. We were there for a week and they had a ton of sex. Dylan’s dreams came true that week. But only I knew about it since it was our room. Everyone else had their suspicions but I was the only one who really knew the truth.
When we got back home, she promised me that she was just “crazy” since she was on vacation and she’d never cheat on Eric again. She kept saying how he was amazing and perfect for her and to please not tell anyone. So I promised to keep her little fling a secret. Fucked up I know but I have more loyalty to Natalie than Eric.
She continued to act like everything was fine but she recently told me that she’s now pregnant and I asked her who the father is and she gave me this look as if I slapped her across the face. She said it’s obviously Eric and I reminded her about Dylan and she insisted that Eric is the father and to never mention Dylan in front of her again. She’s terrified since she was supposed to start college but she told Eric and he told her not to worry and he’ll take care of her and their baby and he loves her and that they’ll be ok. She told me he was a little scared but he begged her not to have an abortion and promised that he’s gonna be a good dad. He wants to get married before she starts showing since they both think it looks tacky wearing a wedding dress and being obviously pregnant so she’s busy planning a quick wedding too.
Y’all. Dylan is obviously the father. Like 100%. They were fucking like rabbits in Italy and I don’t think she knew how to say “where can I buy condoms” in Italian. I feel bad for Eric since he’s like.. already buying cute baby clothes and prenatal vitamins and doing research on what she needs to be eating.
I love Natalie she’s my best friend but this is so fucked up like I feel really bad for Eric. I know she’s scared and Eric would obviously be the better dad but c’mon that’s not his baby. Dylan is 18 and hes nice but definitely not ready to be a father. Eric is older and he’s graduating college soon and he has a car and an apartment and hes a good guy. But it’s not fair for him. I know she’s trying to save her own ass but it’s her fault for cheating on him.
I don’t know like if I tell Eric, Natalie will hate me forever for ruiningher life and her baby’s life.
[–]Stahlboden30 points31 points32 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If it was anything like patriarchy, paternity fraud would've been criminal offence.
[–]Billyno4fro19 points20 points21 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow awalt
[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points (2 children) | Copy Link
This type of shit used to be isolated in trailer parks and projects, now it's everywhere.
[–]-Fender-8 points9 points10 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Lies. It's always been everywhere. Even some of the kings of France were thought to have been cucked, for one example amongst millions of others. If I remember the statistics, it's around 10% of the entire population that has a different father from who they think it is. In some poorer areas, it goes up to 30%. Chances are that if you were to look at your family tree, what you'd see wouldn't reflect reality. Every step up the ladder has approximately a 10% chance of being wrong.
[–]The-Wizard-of-Oz-1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
20 - 25 percent according to the most accurate study done in Scandinavia recently based on actual DNA fingerprinting. Also, the number of times a person cheats cannot be derived from this result as in many cases a a couple need to have sex as much as 9 times to conceive, if you discount protection.
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[–]EqZero16 points17 points18 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Here is your answer. Friendship is more important than empathy it seems. She is only starting considering telling him when he's already threatened with maximum danger. She would not care to tell him unless her friend got pregnant. Imagine if Dylan had HIV or some shit. Nope, don't care. Friend is more important.
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[–]EqZero3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Or worst case she will tell her friend to "tell him the truth" and wash her hands away there. And her friend will trickle truth the guy or tell him OP is crazy or whatever.
[–]starkfuture3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You are looking from your personal perspective and the perspective of a generic male. But the person in question is a female and she is the fraud slut's friend.
I'd not blame her if she chooses to keep her mouth shut. Else, that is like blaming a random chads for fucking your wife, when your wife is the slut that is married and has obligations and vows to keep.
But I will blame this simp for not asking for a paternity test. Don't expect other people to do you favours. You do good for yourself.
Flipping the genders, if my own best friend maintained a whole second family, I WOULD NOT SPEAK OF IT TO HIS WIFE, EVER.
[–]hotpot4mus2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd rather have a relationship with a slut than some poor guy.
[–]deeselecter9 points10 points11 points (3 children) | Copy Link
The Eric kid blue pilled and cuced@ that age . WTF. Abuse and divorce rape also coming.
[–]KneeDeepThought5 points6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Link
cucked indicates he knows about the cheating and is okay with it, I don't think that's the case here or OP wouldn't have any qualms about divulging the cheating.
[–]deeselecter3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Bro if u know or not. Someone fucking ur birch behind u is a cuckery situation. To be cucked and not know is a fked up situation. To know and condone it is the ultimate cuck . A mgtow see cucking from a mile cos the eye is open and thats y we play how we play.
[–]KneeDeepThought10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
ok apparently one of the definitions of cuck is a guy who's wife is cheating, but it originally was specifically defined as a guy who got off watching his wife get railed by other dudes. so fine, he's a cuck. and yeah, I feel ya on the awareness- nothing but smash n' dash.
[–]totorox 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
she's never gonna tell him
that would fly in the face of millions of years of female reproductive strategy
[–]KneeDeepThought4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They best part is she can put Eric's name on the birth certificate and collect money from him for 20 years without his consent, even if he coudl prove he is not the father which he can't because DNA evidence can't be admitted without mom's consent.
[–]Moving-Weight7 points8 points9 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Went in there to provide as level headed unbiased advice as I could. Got called an incel. Naturally.
[–]NoCharism4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
yeah sometimes i dont even bother anymore to give advice/argue with these people
it all comes down to them insulting the one who says the truth, because the truth is offensive
[–]starkfuture5 points6 points7 points (3 children) | Copy Link
At this day and age, if the simp is stupid enough to ' sign up to be the dad' without asking for a paternity test, it just shows that he is a whiteknight (unless he is a retard).
I'd actually prefer him to be saddled with 21 years of child support and all that follows paternity fraud. These Simps need to be destroyed completely from the ground up.
[–]KneeDeepThought6 points7 points8 points (2 children) | Copy Link
he might not have a choice about "signing up" as mom can put any name on the cert she wants, and he cant' get a DNA test without her permission (that's legally admissable, anyway).
But, having his gf go on vacation to Italy without him? Yeah, that makes him a retard.
[–]starkfuture4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
For general information, if some slut puts your name in a birth certificate, this is what you do.
Be ready to spend up to USD12-15k for an uncomplicated case. That should only take 2 court appearances at most. Believe me, it is money well spent.
[–]KneeDeepThought0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
agreed- the 25 k I spent getting out of my marriage was returned to me fivefold within a year from protected assets and income. best investment I ever made.
[–]Cfo773 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What a fucking piece if shit
[–]Cfo770 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Can’t accept any accountability for her actions
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YES
[–]six-twosix0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"Natalie is a nice girl"
... What's that?