I don't want to be disrespectful, but it seems like many of the redditors on this sub would rather complain that they're not good enough than make themselves good enough. We're red pilled, obviously, but to me, the MGTOW lifestyle seems awfully black pilled.

Am I understanding MGTOW incorrectly? What's the difference between MGTOW and self improvement, and for those that have done both, which do you prefer and why?