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Thats my gripe, if its handed to me. Sure, if I have to play monkey just to get you to drop trousers. To hell with it.
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In what context? Marriage is a tool mankind invented to overcome hardships and challenges since surviving on your own was basically non-existent. Now with how peaceful and easy everything is in the world, what purpose does it serve now and how does that lead to stabilizing society?
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“There were plenty of times throughout the history of man where things were “good enough” for both men and women to be “liberated” as they are now. “
Are you calling anything before the 40s “good times”? Life was hell, constant wars, depression, genocides.
Only since the 60s ironically after USA was established as a super power were “good times” flowing and coincidentally, that is when you started to see the breakdown of marriage and the rise of feminism.
It has always been a institute about bonding together to overcome hardship. There is no other use of marriage, I suppose a religious one, but again, outdated.
“when marriage is introduced, everyone feels as if their hard work pays off. The blue collar plumber will find a wife, and the millionaire will find a wife. Both will be guaranteed sex. Both will work to satisfy the status quo, and although it may seem like the “plantation”, that is the way the average person is wired to feel “content”.“
I’m not trying to knock you but please back up your sweeping claims with some precedents or facts.
Ask your grandparents if they married for these reasons. Marrying for love is a relatively new concept because marriage as an institution was dying.
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“The fact is that societies that implemented marriage advanced in culture, technology and stability“
No disagreement there the key here is that cultures that implemented it in the past. Your flaw is it has no bearing on the future.
Proof? We are advancing so rapidly with declining marriage , so no I don’t think anyone should take your case as proof.
“What the guy above is saying isn't rocket science. It's observable reality accepted by pretty much everyone in the manosphere.”
Ah the good ol appeal to the majority logical fallacy. Can’t argue with your brain so you gotta make it seem like an us vs you thing. Come back when you have actually valid points.
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So now you’re attributing declining birth rates (which it is only in few white and Asian cultures that its declining so no, the population isn’t declining) to marriage with no substantial claims other than your opinion. Yet I’m conflating the issue.
when you can start backing up your points with actual data and reasoning instead of gross claims based on opinion, I’ll be more apt to listen to you. Til then I’ll agree to disagree.
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