Question from the other side

FantasticChipmunk · 2019-07-07T10:26:07+00:00

I'll play:

To confirm and educate other men.
Most women are fine outside of a relationship, providing they're not trying to leverage their gender. Choosing to spend time with a woman is the same choice we have to spend time with another male friend. Men typically prefer to hang out with other men.
We don't, because we understand female nature.

RealBiggly · 2019-07-07T10:41:29+00:00

We talk about women like AA talk about alcohol.

Bye.

PrinceRaj53 · 2019-07-07T11:04:35+00:00

This is a genuine attempt at understanding the men of this subreddit but feel free to take the pss if that's what you want to do.*

Translation : I will say something about a genuine question, but as soon as you reply with brutal honesty and indifference, something that I am not used to, I will take that as "taking the piss" as I have mentioned previously.

Now, let me clarify something first :

Whether you are a woman or not is unnecessary. We are not interested in your gender.

Women frequently use their sex to try and seize special attention on the internet. This does not fly in this community which is part of the MGTOW lifestyle. Being a woman does not give your words special weight or wisdom, or give you any inside understanding of how men should deal with women or anything about MGTOW.

Do not say "woman here," or "as a female", "female here", "I'm a female" or anything that identifies you as such. Your comments and posts should be able to stand on the merit of your post alone.

That being said, lets move on with your "genuine" question, shall we? (Don't forget to get an idea of "women hating" from this comment, that"s standard procedure)

it's been quite the journey reading through some of the posts here

Ah I see, a lot of "women hating" and "mah soggy knees" aka mysogyny, I guess.

Some people seem to have genuinely embarked on a self-discovering and self-fulfilling journey and that's all cool. Do you. Some are just straight up woman bashing though and this is the part I don't understand.

Ah I see. So those of us who take it smoothly while talking about female nature to appear "nice" and "acceptable", they are fine while being mgtow because they match some "criteria", don't they? But those of us who are brutally honest and don't give two shits about whether someone may find us "offensive" or not while saying the truth without any sugercoating are straight forwardly "women haters".

Great logic.

And this, is your genuine question?

The level of anger directed at all women contradicts the general idea that you don't need or want them

So, I don't drink alcohol, or smoke or don't do anything. So I should not criticize those because I dont drink them?

Now, lets come to your "genuine" question about "women hating". So original.

What you see is not hate, its indifference. We are not your regular men. We are not under the "women are wonderful" effect. We are the one who have the capability to see through the bullshit that women put up to project a different persona than the one she actually has. We talk about the truth, the gynocentrism including the evolutionary female nature which resonated with female biology and psychology withoutoating any of it. And since we do it without caring about how mysogistic(whatever that bullshit word is) it sounds, other people see it as "hatred". Well, hate speech doesn't exist.

And by the way, the word misogyny is as useless as a feminist claiming "we are fighting for equal rights".

We talk about the Factual observable reality of AWALT ( here is a post to it : /r/MGTOW/comments/atm36t/the_actual_meaning_of_awalt/) and all the statistical aspects and whether it's true in reality or not, and that's fine. It's just statistical clusters with some generalized predictive capabilities, but that's about it.

The fact is, we live in a culture where you can never criticize women. Ever. Single mothers? Golden angels. A woman is terrified of being raped walking down a sidewalk at high noon/late night on a busy street? Can't point out she is clearly a paranoid schizophrenic, nope, all men should control their behaviours because of "her experiences".

Woman lies about being raped for money and attention? Criticize that? Nope, sweep that under the rug because #BelieveAllWomen and #BrainlessWesternBullshitWhichRuinsOtherCountriesAsWell.

Pointing out women are human beings? Great. You successfully identified the species. No one is denying women aren't part of the species.

However, it's not 24/7 about how "its not wonen's fault, everything is good, men are bad ones, lets self improve, no mention about women ok, thats mysogynistic" and all that, and that's what gets you upset.

"boys and girls are the same"

"men are bad too"

Great, "Don't say a mean thing about women! Men are just as bad!" Yes, yes, male bashing. That's 24/7 in the media.

Does anyone here deny men can be bad?

Because that's what I see all day long, on every DV poster, on every "if a woman's drunk she can't give consent, if a man is drunk he's a rapist" consent pamphlet.

For example, just because someone here says, "You know, women are cheaters" doesn't mean anyone is denying men aren't. But it bothers women like you they aren't saying it too. Anything to protect women from the slightest criticism or any responsibility by correspondingly bashing men. And since we don't do it in the way women want, we are mysogynistc or women haters.

It doesn't matter that all humans are flawed, of course they are, hell, most religions brought that up thousands of years ago. Its not something new.

But rationalising relationships and female nature is new, because men are forced to do it after getting burned over and over and over again.

What matters is that we can never say anything critical of women, because the pedestal must be polished daily from any imperfection with the blood of men.

That's the inherent trait of gynocentrism.

It doesn't matter that these criticisms are actual valid and factual generalizations about women the collective that can be seen via observable reality.

Your problem with lifestyles like MGTOW is they don't pedestalise women like others, or bash men enough. We talk straight to the point about women and female nature without sugercoating even a single bit, and that makes people upset.

As long as "men are too" or men are being bashed, then women are protected. Woooo. Thank God.

Also, please reference your source posts where you've made similar complaints on r/ feminism, and r/ gendercritical about male bashing without them pointing out women may possibly, could, or have, ever done anything even slightly negative ever.

How do you manoeuvre real life?

How do you do it? Same here. We are also humans.

Ah I see, you don't even consider us humans, do you?

See, even I can make up anything as "offensive" if I want to.

I'm sure you have female family members, co-workers, friends, maybe even a wife

Wife? Lol. The main core principle of mgtow is to go solo and our own way. It is directly confirmed bachelorhood (either forever single or divorced).

"Married mgtow" is an oxymoron. They are the ones who try to "redefine" mgtow to make it "friendly, nice and acceptable" to blue pillers or average joes.

As to answer your question, we interact normally. With indifference. Whether its a coworker, colleague, FWBs, plates, or anything else, its fully casual.

What do you really want

Why do you care? Dont give an average answer like "bcoz I see women hating". Give a genuine, convincing answer.

think deep down we all yearn for acceptance from the other side

Wrong. The main definition of mgtow is about not to yearn for anything from the "other side". We could care less about what women think of us. That includes you and your shitty opinion about us being women haters. But hey, you do you.

But if that's not the case for you, what's your ideal scenario?

To go my own way.

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user_miki · 2019-07-07T10:48:59+00:00

Did you see how big cats hunt animals.Women in relationships are like that.The dormant instinct take over and men are their prey.We are food for them, utilities to serve a purpose.

Any favorable description of a man I heard from a woman mouth start with how good that man is to do something, fix something,bring something,not about his intrinsic value as a human being.

Any emotional display from man to a woman is met with immediate dismissal ,switched the narrative to her problem,laughing, mocking and sexual turn off.

We are human doings for them not human beings.

Shimakaze4 · 2019-07-07T10:49:49+00:00

Ah here we go again, another woman thinking she's super smart by asking us about the "hate". Listen, pointing out the shitty behaviour of women towards men and in general and how badly men are treated by society, government and the court system is not hate. It's called pointing out the truth, only people who dislike that call it hate.

crityouallday · 2019-07-07T11:00:12+00:00

1-Anger isnt a bad thing as long as it causes some men to really dig deep and rethink for the better. Change can occur as little as 2 anger or 10 anger

2- The more extreme Men can try as best they can to dodge and avoid a lot of contact with the female species. We can develop ourselves into a monk going away from society all together.

3- personally for myself I yearn for a formula to rid of the female human genome aka collect infinity stones and Snap. Deep Science will then FOCUS and determine alternate ways to reconstruct and grow females again. Mass genocide (im sure lots of people will try to stop me)

vCcrfT6AYh · 2019-07-07T10:55:44+00:00

1.- The fact that i don't need them doesn't make me less mad

2.- I don't, nobody needs to actually speak to me for anything

3.- I don't even know what I want

801735 · 2019-07-07T11:09:41+00:00

What do you really want?

Why do you care?

what's your ideal scenario?

4. No retarded "what if" scenarios.

AGTighe · 2019-07-07T11:12:54+00:00

Have some answers before this thread disappears.

1- A lot of people are here are still in the ''rage'' state of mind. Usually because they have ether seen constantly, or been the personal victim of the actions of a woman in their life. Funny thing is a woman can post an ''All men are pigs'' thread etc and no-one bats an eyelid but when a man does it, it's ''resentment and hate''

2- How do I manoeuvre real life? LOL you obviously have the NPC view of a typical MGTOW, dwelling in our basements, hunched over a PC and gob forbid we go outside to leer at the college girls leaving school. I interact with woman exactly how you would expect an average person to interact with woman. The only difference is I will never take the topic of conversation into anywhere like relationships etc. Unless I told you straight to you face I was MGTOW, you wouldn't know.

3- What I want is to live my life free from society's view that unless I'm in a relationship and devoting myself to a partner, I'm not contributing to the ''greater good''.

GrisBosque · 2019-07-07T11:13:37+00:00

What do you expect?

when you have zero value and try to steal everything.

of course theres blowback. of course men communicate about it, and of course we avoid you like Ebola, and of course it eventually all crashes.

A spud fork isnt an eating utinsel...

And thats where these things all go...

When you trash society by abusing those who create and maintain it, do they still keep doing that?

Or do they take the exits?

Look at the mgtow symbol.

Thats leaving society Babe...

You girls keep it running....

PS we left Rome too when the women became total cunts.

GreyImpact · 2019-07-07T10:26:09+00:00

I can only answer for myself, I’m sure others will have their own opinions of course.

The anger you see is because men are shit on in society. Whether this manifests through laws and courts, or just the expectations of what men are supposed to do for women.

I maneuver my life by keeping my interactions with women to a bare minimum, it is much safer and stress-free this way.

My ideal scenario is repealing the 19th amendment, and/or having the sex doll/sex robot industry become mainstream, so that men can have more power over society.

amasiphoto · 2019-07-07T11:07:25+00:00

I was thinking of giving an elaborate reply but then I thought of equality, and I couldn’t be bothered. Since women use sexuality to scam men (simps mostly) of their money, I don’t care about giving you any information or knowledge unless I get paid first. Bye.

krugerand9 · 2019-07-07T11:12:36+00:00

The level of anger directed at all women contradicts the general idea that you don't need or want them. If we are all so bad and useless, why is there so much resentment and hate?

The anger may be called redpilled rage. It is caused when a women figuratively stabs her man in the heart. This sub is great at getting that anger out ans saving men. And it may have prevented a man from suicide or two. All you see is the negativity but you dont understand. Once a redpiller accepts the reality he can be at peace (my case).

How do you manoeuvre real life? I'm sure you have female family members, co-workers, friends, maybe even a wife. How do you interact with women in real life?

Once you have accepted the reality of womens true nature, you see things differently. Women lose a lot of their appeal. You realize they are very deceptive and we here often call them chameleons. Its just their nature and there is not much we men can do about it except GYOW.

What do you really want? I think deep down we all yearn for acceptance from the other side. But if that's not the case for you, what's your ideal scenario?

We dont need that deep down at all. Some monks have been shown through brain scans to be the happiest on the planet. And they aren't married to a woman. I would simply like to be happy and I will never have that in a relationship with a woman.

Title	Question from the other side
Author	FantasticChipmunk
Upvotes	0
Comments	19
Date	July 7, 2019 10:14 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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