I was talking to one of my lecturers at college, a really great guy with a really great attitude towards life and I had a moment where I was able to see myself talking as from almost a third person perspective and I thought to myself: ''am I being a cunt to this guy, who I consider to be pretty great? How many other men have I been disrespecting without even realising it.'' This thought stayed with me and I realised that MGTOW has taught me about my interactions with other men more than I realised. The blue pill state I believe carries within it almost a prerequisite to being a cunt to other men and not acknowledging it.
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Yes... though I don't think it is JUST "blue pill" state; but rather ANY obsession with or pursuit of (or attempting to KEEP access to) women/pussy.
-- Stop. And think; try to recall for a moment-- prior to puberty -- how (if you were anything like most boys) you used to treat, trust, interact with, even seek out and attempt to actively befriend... other guys (both boys your own age as well as older guys AND adult men). That is to say, what your "outlook" or "worldview" was in regards to your peers when you still thought girls were "icky" or "dumb."
And then realize that, at some point in time -- generally during early "teen" years, and usually involving females in some capacity or another (even if only some "crush/fantasy") -- that changed.
Often it changed/changes rather quickly, & rather dramatically; but generally without the guy who is experiencing it really being fully or consciously aware of it -- oh most guys are almost certainly aware of their changed attitude towards FEMALES -- but they tend to be rather "oblivious" to the impact of that and how it (or they) dramatically alter their MALE friendships as a result.
Rather than being what it was -- an end goal and "joyous part of life" in and of itself -- male friendships (existing OR new) begin to be re-characterized as either competitive/adversarial (especially as regards "status" in the eyes of girls), or WORSE they begin to be "tapped" (managed, controlled, manipulated) for their resource value in pursuing (and trying to impress, and/or ingratiate themselves to) women.
-- I would also argue that it hasn't always been so historically speaking.
That indeed -- even now -- it is LESS so in those cultures & societies where the sexes have separate "spheres" and lives, and/or where marriages are either "arranged," or else are at least LESS "westernized" in terms of being about the "romantic love" ideal that turns modern (feminized, feministed, femi-fisted?) males into such ridiculously competitive "peacocks." (I'd also note that it has been equally harmful to women and female to female friendships as well -- the so called "sisterhood" is a farce/fraud, most women are in fact trying to "out slut" each other, and they really have no loyalty or respect for each other, whatsoever.)
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Doesn't matter if they are blue pill or red pill. Most men are cunts to other men without realizing it.
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I disagree...many Red pillers are cunts towards other men. After all, they see themselves as ubermensch who can lift ten times their body weight, slay every pussy they meet, control billion dollar companies, understand the most obtuse philosophies, rule over the lesser proles, and still have time to contribute field reports to Reddit's Red Pill subreddit on a daily basis.
Blue pillers without Nietzschean delusions are just cunts towards other men for no reason.
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