The Point?

ikhwan_arif · 2019-01-10T10:07:26+00:00

43 year old MGTOW here. Let me offer some hard earned experience.

Back in 2009 I ended up homeless. I couch surfed for a while, then ended up in a homeless shelter with junkies and prostitutes. Imagine long corridors with rooms barely the size of a prison cell. We all shared the same kitchen and bathroom at the end of the corridor.

It was the lowest point of my life. The other residents would sometimes be up all night shouting, fighting, fucking (the women very loudly for some reason). So I didn't have much sleep and I had a VERY low paid job at the time.

However, my one ace was that I had an old laptop that I bought years ago. It was an old IBM thinkpad, ancient but it worked. I had Linux installed on it. Programming had been a hobby for many years since I was 9, and I decided I was not going to stay in that shitty situation all my life.

So in my evenings i'd stay up till 2am each night studying coding. I created my own projects, did some open source programming, and volunteered for free for some small IT companies writing software in Perl for their Linux servers.

I then added all of this experience to my CV and started applying for jobs. Had an interview at an IT company doing Linux/SQL but they wanted more experience. No big deal, the interview gave me experience of what to expect at an IT interview.

My next interview was in another city, and great pay. I doubted myself, didn't think I was up for it but I went for the first interview and the IT director was REALLY impressed that I was 100% self taught in programming.

I was invited to the second interview, chatted with the IT Directory for 3 hours, he loved my enthusiasm for programming and I was offered a life changing role.

I moved cities for the role, and suddenly found myself earning more money than I imagined as a Linux/Windows Server Engineer, the role also involved programming various languages so I used the role to train as much as I can.

Since getting my foot in the door with that role my IT career went up and up and up. Fast forward to today; i'm a Senior Software Developer, I live in a quiet riverside cottage in a quiet little English village (I love it this way). I earn bucket loads of money, could retire today if I wanted to but keep doing my job as I utterly love it.

CONCLUSION

If you have a decent brain i'd highly recommend getting into IT. It's a massive field with different disciplines. You can learn for free online with youtube and tutorials, you can dowload free compilers and interpreters, you can get experience working on projects such as codetriage.com.

10 years ago homeless, today living the dream :-)

What's stopping you?

nenieco · 2019-01-10T09:02:50+00:00

Most are in debt yes. When you ask what do we live for, you mean what is the point of life? For me it's life itself, it's extraordinary to be alive, just do what you love, enjoy the show, take it lightly, everything we perceive is temporary, including these bodies, our true self (the only one perceiving the show) is eternal.

HipsterNgariman · 2019-01-10T11:52:07+00:00

If you want to be valuable to other people you need to have some unique sets of skills. I mean, when applying for a better job than the ones you're in.

Maybe you're good at programming. Or cooking, driving or managing groups of people. Taking something you're good at and make it a strenght. Eventually you'll find jobs that use these skills and be rewarded for it.

jkarovskaya · 2019-01-10T16:47:54+00:00

Since you are very young (19 is young to us old MGTOW guys in our 60s) consider learning a construction trade.

Best trades imho are electrician, plumber, aircraft mechanic, mason, finish carpenter.

Trades mean hard work and sometimes it's too cold or too hot, and dirty, but the pay is OK , and once you gain experience you can start your own business and make really good money.

If you do have the gift for computer/phones/IT, that's even better because the upside is fantastic.

You can take some FREE CLASSES for learning web development online at

https://www.codecademy.com/

There is so much out there for you as a young guy, like travel, adventures, learning new skills.

Having sex is risky now, because of STD's, risk of false rape, getting her pregnant, so ALWAYS use a condom that you bought yourself, and don't go raw dog.

good luck, and find some new directions

Badthrowaway2928 · 2019-01-10T10:05:12+00:00

Well bro I'll suggest this to you. If you're working two jobs and still struggling, then it's time to change both of those jobs into better paying ones. There are better paying ones out there. I work two jobs as well, but the two jobs I have I get to have weekends off, practically every major holiday off and I'm now making 110k a year. So I have been massively saving and in 10 years I'll retire.

I can tell that music is your passion which is cool. Keep doing that on weekends.

But here is the point, when making enough money that you can say fuck it and go just about anywhere and enjoy everything life has to offer, that's what makes it worth it.

maxjosephwheeler · 2019-01-10T16:51:29+00:00

Focus on your budget. Are you using a cash back credit card? Are you using a high interest earning checking/savings account? Claiming exempt on your taxes? https://youtu.be/HmT-lmbjfKc

Azrael1981 · 2019-01-10T18:41:35+00:00

I'm 38,been mgtow my whole life. what I can tell you is when you have free time, try looking for better jobs. forget about sex now, whenever you feel horny you're over energized, so go to the gym, or go for a loooong jogging session. also try learning from youtube something you like and can use as a source of income. you're young, nothing can break your will to self motivate.

nenieco · 2019-01-10T09:51:53+00:00

The government shutdown spotlights a bigger issue: 78% of US workers live paycheck to paycheck: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/09/shutdown-highlights-that-4-in-5-us-workers-live-paycheck-to-paycheck.html

Title	The Point?
Author	latincollective
Upvotes	15
Comments	19
Date	January 10, 2019 8:54 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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