When the lurkers invade this sub!

tchower

August 8, 2019

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Title	When the lurkers invade this sub!
Author	tchower
Upvotes	178
Comments	29
Date	August 8, 2019 7:43 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/cnifc8/when_the_lurkers_invade_this_sub/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/when-the-lurkers-invade-this-sub.411779 https://theredarchive.com/post/411779

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[–]tchower[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Not only that, but the statement expresses a need to defend woman by misrepresenting the meaning of MGTOW. This shit isn’t about being an incel, it’s not about giving up, it’s not about woman are “a bunch of whores OMG!”, it’s about going our own way and being independent from the whims of woman rather than dependent on their whims. I’ve heard this hating woman argument and also heard the “you’re gay for going your own way”. I presume white knights can’t make up their minds about why we’re not exactly rolling out the red carpet and being woman’s doormats as a problem or something.

If we talk about woman we must not be going our own way, but if we go our own way and never talk about woman we’re suspected homosexuals. Which is why white knights deserve to be ignored and deserve ignorance. They’re a waste of our time to debate with to prove your right, and if they use what you lack against you, they might drag you down into the cuck experience which will be it’s own hell. It’s a true saying around here that men are only one great blow job or great fuck away from the plantation mentality so stay vigilant.

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[–]tchower[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Right! That’s a good analogy as well. We share stories about thots using manipulation, going our own way, or the nature of “hypergamy”, but that doesn’t mean we hate all woman. There’s also righteous anger here, such as anger over false accusations and female double standards being enforced upon you and sometimes male venting over being ruled by a bunch of cunning apes with guns and cages to lock you in if they dislike your truth, or you go too much to the extreme of alpha, and these apes are all over this damn planet and now in space with Elon Cuck (Ft. other space cucks who use technology invented because of war to colonize space). I’m totally cool with woman doing whatever they want with their men, since getting cucked/used or betrayed by some thot and taking pleasure in it is another man’s problem not my problem.

But when woman begin asking the state to enforce corruption, want everyone to live their lie that men are over sexualizing them caused all their issues, or the state should enforce feminist dogma on men, that’s righteous anger indeed, as men have been deceived by the woman and have also deceived themselves about woman. White knights see that woman find this creepy when men online talk about them on the internet the way we do, which makes sense given we’re going against the collective hive mind, and we’re a bunch of random dudes to these woman, and they stumble into our conversations uninvited, and white knights are ignorant to woman’s solipsism, which is a hypergamy rooted in a collectivist mentality, where men never talk about any of this but already know it and knew it before.

Plus in early times woman depended on men to defend them, or they would be eaten or her children would die, which also explains why they’re more collectivist than us, and why these pussy worshipping knights think they’re doing woman a favor, while most of these white knights are about as far from alpha as trans faggots are alphas trying to talk tough on the internet. Or the classic captain save a thot at the bar with cops to protect them if someone actually beats them up so they can go to jail where everyone fights anyway. So it’s not like White Knights are brave or ethical for defending woman in the first place.

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I was looking at it from the perspective of looking more pathetic having this as their image! Since the Actual Knights from that time period were more misogynistic and badass to the point of shock in this day and age, and believed they were God’s soldiers, killing, raping and bride napping woman knowing they’re God’s elites, until the church introduced chivalry and courtship to them later on to moralize their brutality, when realistically they were still misogynists, even after the church introduced chivalry and their brutality is what brought western civilization to this point. Everyone with German ancestry is probably related to Charlemagne because of how genetics works.

Chivalry was also technically invented by misogynists during a time when the knights being nice to a woman would’ve been a revolutionary new concept based on life being easier, now the knights can live longer and waste a bunch of time with courtship because we’re the “proper people of god”! If calling them knights is too noble, we can certainly call them cucks for historical accuracy!

Isn’t that interesting? Civilizations and chivalry was created by misogynists, misogyny made feminist theorizing possible in the first place because men built civilization with the brutality and masculine strength of the alpha, and the repulsive intellectual science of the sickly beta to a level where woman can hide behind deception using feminist ideology to convince men that woman are better, because woman have been so greatly oppressed by men.

We men no longer enjoy our male privilege to use acceptable force against a woman to ensure sexual reproduction and the survival of our species and the lineage of our individual DNA as men, which is a privilege nature gave us to survive. We live in a world where weakness and femininity is the ideal virtue which is opposite to the masculine male brutality and physical power, our desire for courageous leadership and our iron will that led us on voyages across oceans is what wow’d the ancient woman and protected her and the tribe against the forces of nature and it’s animals.

We won’t get into the discussion of how other male animals survived based on their strength and evolutionary adaptations since people tend to not look at “body mass relative to size” or “how other animal’s nervous systems work” and the nervous system is arguably an extension of the brain, so when people look at primates and are like “Wow! Those animals are way stronger than us! But we beat them with our brains and smarts!” Not really! When examining how their nervous system works, most of the strength of apes swinging from trees ect. is their nervous systems exerting more control over their muscles, and the nervous system is arguably an extension of the brain.

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True man! I think MGTOW’s go into other subs and post so word gets out about us. I’d rather them not post our ideas in any subs. Funny thing is, I used to be a left wing socialist before joining MGTOW, I used to believe in all the blue pill ideals. Then as soon as I disagreed with the party on “feminism” and everything it stood for, the party banned me on the grounds of misogyny and transphobia, even though I was one of first founding members who designed their logo and recruited members at protest rallies such as the immigration protests at the boarder, prison incarceration treatment and the enthusiasm for another revolution was there! And I hated the rich elite and still don’t like most angel investors in entrepreneurship running a start up either, because they’re there when you don’t need them, and not there when you need them!

I found a MGTOW article when I was researching male rights in google to help me with disproving feminist and #metoo dogma. So when I see these commies and socialists and SJW’s on here I know exactly what phase of life they’re in because I was one of them. You can’t argue with them, just let them be, politics goes in cycles and they really don’t like us and a lot believe in male privilege and white privilege which I never did. Even if you can trace your ancestry back to an Irish indentured servant they’ll still argue you have white privilege and going against feminism is sexist. Sure we should keep politics out of MGTOW, but not standing with feminism or #Metoo will go against the left’s financial world agenda.

[–]Hey_Paul_Aaaaaaahh1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We were all bluepilled once.

I do agree with you on keeping politics out and for the record I consider myself a libertarian, so I'm not some alt righter or tradcon trying to "recruit" people for those ideologies.

The reason I take issue with specifically communist views in regards to mgtow is that I consider them contradictory to each other.

Obviously lots of people who are mgtow consider themselves on the moderate left and I take no issue whatsoever with that.

However, I don't think you can be a communist and a mgtow at the same time and understand both philosophies.

Mgtow is about individualism, self reliance and personal responsibility while communism preaches collectivism, polarisation and victimhood status.

I also agree it would be better if people tried to not spread the term around. Mgtow doesn't need to recruit, men in need tend to find us anyway and since this isn't about politics but personal philosophy there's no real need for greater numbers.

There’s all kinds of stories of woman attempting to escape communist counties to get married with a richer and wealthier capitalist and get with a foreigner and completely go against their system and same goes for socialist counties that are not well off. It’s absolutely an absurd idea that didn’t work and the far left socialists who actually believe the feminists will suffer the same fate. Even the idea that no one will be racist in the future of socialism is an absurd concept. When I’m in an all black part of town talking to a hot black girl, the blacks are giving me dirty looks and stare, but when white people do that to black people it’s “racist” so I see no end to that childish left wing “racial diversity” concept anywhere in sight. The woman like that black aggression and badboy mentality, but I still think the white knighting that black brothers do to you when you’re white in their part of town the woman look down on.

Although what I liked about this political party is that they were debating and discussing incorporating libertarian ideas into the movement while providing basic needs by the collective such as healthcare and education with the exact same gun rights, legalization of marijuana and a lot of what the libertarians also want. Yet, the radical feminist and metoo agendas they supported and the false accusations being made against men as an antagonistic element to revolution went against a lot of what I believed in, so expressed the concern to the commune, and got voted out of participating in meetings immediately on a little over half disagreeing and the other 45 percent wanting me at meetings.

Which puts me now in the same political thought process as you. I considered starting my own anti-communist and anti-marxist movement with the libertarians and joining the libertarian movement. But decided to get out of politics completely since then and climb to the next level in my life. I think MGTOW’s should accept whoever is going their own way and accept humanity for what it is, female and male nature, even if we have incels who decided to stay in monk mode/self-develop seeing this sub, or left wing leaning people on here, as long as they’re going their own way as men we’ll accept them.

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