Red Pill and rape

soulcakeduck

September 11, 2013

5 upvotes

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Title	Red Pill and rape
Author	soulcakeduck
Upvotes	5
Comments	3
Date	September 11, 2013 6:55 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1m6z3u/red_pill_and_rape/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/red-pill-and-rape.286802 https://theredarchive.com/post/286802

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

their uncritical participation is dangerous in a community where rape apology is so prominent.

Concerning 1. I haven't read Devlin, and I'm not sure I buy it. Based on the quote, I'm not sure I'm interested.

Concerning 2, ZionController got downvoted to -400. The follow-up comment received many, mostly critical responses. The top voted responses were incredulous at his apparent sexual entitlement. Moreover, he looks like he might be a troll. Yet, you have just argued that is somehow interpreted as uncritical...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

This argues that it is absurd that sex could be prohibited merely because it violates someone's "personal wishes" (consent). Instead, we should be free to do as we wish with other people sexually, unless perhaps (as with the old view) doing so violates their marital fidelity.

I'm not sure that's the argument. Again, I haven't read Devlin so be that as it may, I get the sense that the argument is that in marriage it is generally understood that some sort of sexual co-operation is part of the contract. At least in the Catholic Church, someone shall be granted an annulment if it can be demonstrated that a marriage was not consummated.

At the very least, users should be unwaveringly critical of all of this rape apologia, and ideally should get their sexual strategy from another source that doesn't have it to begin with.

I could also just you know... ignore it.

[–]soulcakeduck[S] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I haven't read Devlin, and I'm not sure I buy it. Based on the quote, I'm not sure I'm interested.

If it is terrible, then perhaps raising awareness of that and potentially having it removed from the sidebar would improve the sub.

ZionController got downvoted to -400.

If you're a TRP regular you know that vote total is not typical; he was heavily brigaded from a large number of subreddits. Most of those critical replies are not from TRP regulars, either.

Moreover, he looks like he might be a troll.

He was a moderator of the sub (hence the "M" next to his name) until very recently when he apparently stopped redditing.

Yes, you could. That much is apparent. And a single response (for the few members that even offered that much) is basically the same, too.

So the community continues to grow, giving a larger soap box for its leaders to spread that message.

It's also a message that gets a good amount of general acceptance in that community too, for example here where regular TRPer dropit_sphere explicitly says the same thing that moderators/sidebar continue to say to this day (spousal rape is not real), and all throughout that drama thread where users are generally defending TRP in that position.

So yes. If you agree that this helps spread those ideas, but see no harm in doing so, that would be your reaction.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It looks like your original thread got deleted, or you removed it. Not sure which.

I'd have to read it first. As a married guy, I don't know if I'd derive much benefit, so honestly, I probably won't.

You seem to also be bordering on concern-trolling.

Ah. Poop-touchers.

Are trolls immune from getting into positions of power? Reddit has an entire empire devoted to that sort of thing.

Well, as I said here: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1m1s46/has_society_lied_to_men_about_what_attracts_women/cc6cdee, red pill men see themselves as lacking options. If the redpill is growing, it might be because men see it as the only game in town worth playing.

where regular TRPer dropit_sphere explicitly says the same thing that moderators/sidebar continue to say to this day (spousal rape is not real), and all throughout that drama thread where users are generally defending TRP in that position.

I dunno if I get a say. By your definition, also the legal definition, I'm a repeat offender of spousal rape. Strangely enough though, my victim has told me several times that she enjoys it, asked me to do it more often, and greatly enjoyed her most recent ordeal. Told me today in fact.

Perhaps. Given however, that your possible concern-trolling suggests quite strongly that you, and those like you, would like nothing more than to see me thrown in jail, which would probably have some pretty bad outcomes for my family... If I have the only the choice between the red and the blue which do you think is more appropriate for me?

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