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Coyotes and wolves are actually different species not subspecies.

But that's not what you were driving at. Presumably you are questioning that white people and some Africans should not be considered part of the same subspecies. You don't have a biological basis for that claim. We interbreed. We are not isolated from each other. Thus we fail to be different subspecies.

Consider also that Canis Lupis Familaris is the subspecies that encompasses all of domesticated dogs and exhibits much higher phenotypic diversity than humans. You still want a different classification for humans from different regions?

Anyway, species and subspecies have actually definitions in biology—and, while they are problematic at times, we shouldn't stretch and abuse them to push a racist agenda. I would even go as far as to say that we shouldn't be pushing racist agendas. But if one must, especially while claiming claiming to be part of a superior race, one should probably try to have their facts straight.

How the hell are people supposed to believe you are superior, if you don't know basic biological concepts and are to lazy to google them?

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Coyotes and wolves are actually different species not subspecies.

There is no consensus on that. And the matter of the coyote's genetic-allegiance, is a hot-debate. Fortunately, standard taxonomical classification systems, which are used to classify all other plants and animals, set the record straight for us.

"Wolves (canis lupus), coyotes (canis latrans), and domestic dogs (canis familiaris) are closely-related species. All three can interbreed and produce viable, fertile offspring — wolfdogs, coywolves, and coydogs. Through DNA analysis, scientists have established that the wolf is the ancestor of the dog." https://www.scholastic.com/teachers/articles/teaching-content/wolves-coyotes-and-dogs/

Fixation index or FST, is a way to measure genetic distance between populations.

https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/woodley-2009-is-homo-sapiens-polytypic-human-taxonomic-diversity-and-its-implications.pdf

The average FST between different dog breeds is 0.154 which is nearly identical to the average FST between human populations at 0.155. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11773246 http://www.pnas.org/content/94/9/4516.abstract

Although wolves (Canis lupus) and dogs (Canis lupus familiaris) are a different species (lupus) than coyotes (Canis latrans), “there is less mt-DNA difference between dogs, wolves, and coyotes than there is between the various ethnic groups of human beings.”

http://books.google.com/books/about/The_Domestic_Dog.html?id=I8HU_3ycrrEC

The FST between Whites (British) and Blacks (Bantu) is 0.23.

http://www.genetics.org/content/105/3/767.abstract

The FST between the common chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes) and the bonobo (Pan paniscus) is 0.103 - half the White-Black difference despite the two being classified as separate species. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0018442X04700335

The FST between two gorilla species, Gorilla gorilla (Western) and Gorilla beringei (Eastern) is 0.04 or 1/6 the difference between Blacks and Whites. http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/klu/bioc/2005/00000014/00000009/00004781;jsessionid=ebk3f9ja9mb61.alexandra?format=print http://www.berggorilla.org/fileadmin/gorilla-journal/gorilla-journal-20-english.pdf

The FST between humans and Neanderthals is less than 0.08 or about 1/3 the Black-White difference. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0018442X04700335 http://www.pnas.org/content/100/11/6593.abstract http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/19/8/1359.full

The FST between humans and homo erectus is 0.17, which is ¾ the Black-White distance. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0018442X04700335

Dr. Stanley Coren, professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia, argues that “Different breeds [of dog] obviously have different types of instinctive intelligence.” [http://tinyurl.com/72opu45] So why couldn’t different human populations as well, if genetic distances between human races are just as significant as genetic differences between dog breeds?

Whether measured through genetics or physical traits the major racial divisions of mankind are always separated into distinct clusters or groups with extreme accuracy. These divisions generally always correspond to the standard and conventional major racial divisions of mankind.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14533184

"The emergence of novel genetic methods utiliz- ing large numbers of genetic markers (single nucleo- tide polymorphisms SNP) allows greater resolution of relationships and ancestry of populations than previ- ous methods. For example, vonHoldt et al. (2011) clari- fied taxonomy by applying SNP data to determine that extant wolves in the US Great Lakes region (consid- ered C. l. lycaon or C. lycaon) and the red wolf (consid- ered C. l. rufus or C. rufus) have admixed wolf and coyote ancestry." https://oup.silverchair-cdn.com/oup/backfile/Content_public/Journal/jhered/106/1/10.1093_jhered_esu075/3/esu075.pdf?Expires=1489005985&Signature=Zl3tjk9f0AIml2AbCFoM~mf5-JwJ7mXuCAeVS1OyRkLAe-uWgP-OlAczjINKNTFwIh7QMN4r2L1nISvvE~~07GHl3rtYNFuQzPkYoFPaVL1bU7tepPIurA93vdR-VoiMAxNZWwgaySbTs4P5wSsH7CydQCp9F8777LQdnBWAD845mr3fYKDBQL2JmqSktY3mqRbbZJN4L7sy0fPX8e7hYb4d0xYMZ43dNu4mgWLD4gLjbZLKTgYhAP8JnIOqp5ydqSgWZJ91GPx9nWz-9bY17O~MQnbyASTBs4RbV3wJc8c1ycT4CTA~2mbyiGS4jse1n9SPHbfIx~gzWjUz3aTAMw__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIUCZBIA4LVPAVW3Q

"Considering all 3 species, the first 2 coordinate axes explained 75% of the variation of the genetic distances and show dogs in a separate cluster from wolves and coyotes. Within the dog cluster, the mixed breed dogs cluster separately from the poodles. Some wolves occur close to or overlap with coy- otes in the PCoA graph, particularly some wolves from Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming and coyotes from Maine."... "Maine and Connecticut coyotes were common in several clusters (prob- ability = 13–47%) including cluster 6 with the other coyotes, clusters 8 and 14 with Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho wolves, and clusters 9 and 11 with Southeast Alaska wolves." https://oup.silverchair-cdn.com/oup/backfile/Content_public/Journal/jhered/106/1/10.1093_jhered_esu075/3/esu075.pdf?Expires=1489005985&Signature=Zl3tjk9f0AIml2AbCFoM~mf5-JwJ7mXuCAeVS1OyRkLAe-uWgP-OlAczjINKNTFwIh7QMN4r2L1nISvvE~~07GHl3rtYNFuQzPkYoFPaVL1bU7tepPIurA93vdR-VoiMAxNZWwgaySbTs4P5wSsH7CydQCp9F8777LQdnBWAD845mr3fYKDBQL2JmqSktY3mqRbbZJN4L7sy0fPX8e7hYb4d0xYMZ43dNu4mgWLD4gLjbZLKTgYhAP8JnIOqp5ydqSgWZJ91GPx9nWz-9bY17O~MQnbyASTBs4RbV3wJc8c1ycT4CTA~2mbyiGS4jse1n9SPHbfIx~gzWjUz3aTAMw__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIUCZBIA4LVPAVW3Q

AND, while the FST mean is higher than the mean for whites and blacks, the range is large and allows for SIGNIFICANT genetic-overlap. Hence, the debate surrounding coyotes...

Now, I digress... Aren't you kind of splitting hairs here? I mean, suppose I swapped out the "wolf vs. coyote" photo for a "retriever vs. labrador" photo... Then what?

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I'm actually impressed. I honestly was not expecting much because of the image macro.

Anyway, it will take me quite a while to go through all you sources, but I would like to thank you for providing some.

If you replaced the coyote/wolf photo with retriever/Labrador, I would say, "those aren't different subspecies either"

I would never deny that there are genetic differences between peoples or dog breeds, especially isolated ones or ones in extreme environments. I don't think that puts me on your side though.

We'll delve into this further once I've read your evidence. From what remember of human genetics though, humans in and from Africa have very high genetic diversity compared to the rest of us and I think we are very similar to many in Africa genetically but with the small addition of some Neanderthal DNA. We only left Africa about 100000 years ago.

: )

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I understand your concerns, fully...

Surely, we can agree that at it's core, the original PussyPass sought to highlight INJUSTICE, although admittedly, a particular flavor of injustice.

The moderators of this sub, including myself, have found that another form of injustice has stolen the spot-light and become much more pervasive. This is the injustice being committed against white people. Those fighting this cause are often censored, banned, doxxed and/or worse, simply for attempting to open a dialogue regarding this matter.

These folks are facing the most egregious forms of injustice. They are being banned in every corner of Reddit and other social-media spheres and have had their tongues cut out.

Recognizing this, and in the spirit of speaking out against injustice, the moderators of this subreddit came to their aid, and provided these folks with a space to share their content and ideas.

This does not mean one cannot post-content and view posts and content that are native to this sub.

What it does mean, is that we are truly concerned, to the point that we made major adjustments in the direction of this subreddit, in an effort to ensure these people have a voice and a right to exist.

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Yeah. What the hell happened. Overnight this went from reasonable injustice articles to racist memes? Unsubscribe.

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When the fuck did this place turn into a white supremacy sub.

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Like the Jews... Yeah, you lost most self respecting people right there.

It's interesting that you know people like me by not knowing me at all.

Of course there are issues that negatively affect white people, just like pussy pass affects men, however I don't think this is the place for it. I would call that maybe "black pass denied" I also don't think there are as many issues where white people are disadvantaged like men are on sex issues. My real problem is when the sub changes to hate by saying black people are a subspecies or that the holocaust was a false flag. These are clear hate messages. People who believe such things have plenty of places to go, and I'd rather it not be here as I found it interesting how society treats the sexes differently. But if this place has turned into a haven for anti jewish and black hatred, I'm out.

Also people referring to 1488, Heil Hitler, and Hitler did nothing wrong is very clearly antisemetic and white supremist speech.

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Yeah, you lost most self respecting people right there.

Self-respecting? Lol... (I'm certain the irony eludes you).

But I digress... So, you don't think Jews are supremacist? (In general) Why did they create an ethno-state? Why is there no "OpenBordersForIsrael"? Why do they refer to themselves as the "chosen people"?

The fact is, there is a powerful Jewish-supremacist element in Judaism and Zionism that is great threat to both non-Jews and Jews.

For example, in the book, "Jewish Supremacism", Duke quotes a former head of National Affairs for the largest Jewish organization in the United States. "‘I’ll confess it at least, like thousands of other typical kids of my generation I was reared as a Jewish nationalist, even a quasi-separatist. Every summer for two months of ten formative years… I attended Jewish summer camp. There, each morning, I saluted a foreign flag, dressed in a uniform reflecting its colours, sang a foreign national anthem, learned a foreign language… and was taught the superiority of my people to the ‘Gentiles’ who oppressed us. ‘We were taught to view non-Jews as… people less sensitive, intelligent and moral than ourselves.’"

Contributing to Jewish supremacism is argued to be that in every conflict with Gentiles, Jews are always portrayed as completely innocent while Gentiles are portrayed as totally evil. The main Jewish holidays are dominated by the recounting of Gentile persecutions, and the Holocaust has achieved almost a religious significance in Jewish life. Any legitimate criticism of Jewish supremacism is argued to be labelled "antisemitism" by Jewish supremacists who define the usage of the term. http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jewish_supremacism

Yet, if one really wants to hear it from the horses-mouth, just read the Babylonian or Palestinian Talmud! It is chalk-full of blatant instances of supremacism. (There are FAR too many to post here. Just Google; "Jewish Supremacy Talmud", you'll see.)

In fact, Jewish supremacy poses a significant threat to America: http://www.rense.com/general81/how.htm

"Some academics and writers allege Jewish supremacism, often in relation to Israel and Zionism. Author Minna Rozen writes that 17th century Jews who lived in Jerusalem were supremacist in their views that they were superior over other Jews.[31] Ilan Pappé, an Israeli historian, writes that the First Aliyah to Israel "established a society based on Jewish supremacy."[32] Joseph Massad, a Professor of Arab Studies, holds that "Jewish supremacism" always has been a "dominating principle" in religious and secular Zionism.[33][34] The Anti-Defamation League[35] and Southern Poverty Law Center[36] condemn writings about "Jewish Supremacism" by Holocaust-denier, former Grand Wizard of the KKK, and conspiracy theorist, Dr. David Duke, as antisemitic – in particular, his book: Jewish Supremacism: My Awakening to the Jewish Question.[37] Kevin B. MacDonald, known for his theory of Judaism as a "group evolutionary strategy", has also been accused by the ADL[38] and his own university psychology department[39] of being "antisemitic" and white supremacist in his writings on the subject. However, prominent rabbis have, in fact, explicitly made claims regarding purported Jewish superiority." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacism

I also don't think there are as many issues where white people are disadvantaged like men are on sex issues.

Annnnndddd, this is likely why you cannot grasp why we're here.

My real problem is when the sub changes to hate by saying black people are a subspecies or that the holocaust was a false flag.

But... Blacks, whites, and all other races ARE subspecies, according to the taxonomical-classification system we use for all other plants and animals (The Fixation Index or FST): The FST between Whites (British) and Blacks (Bantu) is 0.23. http://www.genetics.org/content/105/3/767.abstract

Although wolves (Canis lupus) and dogs (Canis lupus familiaris) are a different species (lupus) than coyotes (Canis latrans), “there is less mt-DNA difference between dogs, wolves, and coyotes than there is between the various ethnic groups of human beings.” http://books.google.com/books/about/The_Domestic_Dog.html?id=I8HU_3ycrrEC

Dr. Stanley Coren, professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia, argues that “Different breeds [of dog] obviously have different types of instinctive intelligence.” [http://tinyurl.com/72opu45]

So why couldn’t different human populations as well, if genetic distances between human races are just as significant as genetic differences between dog breeds?

Whether measured through genetics or physical traits the major racial divisions of mankind are always separated into distinct clusters or groups with extreme accuracy. These divisions generally always correspond to the standard and conventional major racial divisions of mankind. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14533184

AND, the holocaust IS a fucking hoax... Debunk this, playa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St2sM1TwEx4&index=83&t=14s&list=PLlmsOP10VIaB8bjAsZXevYWxrCEvGPYzb

These are clear hate messages.

TIL: Facts = Hate messages.

People who believe such things have plenty of places to go, and I'd rather it not be here

I see... So, you are intolerant of our culture and beliefs, you wish for us to essentially, "go back where we came from" and want us to leave you and your culture alone. Interesting... Please go on. I'm fascinated to know more about your views on this particular point now.

But if this place has turned into a haven for anti jewish and black hatred, I'm out.

Anti-Jewish? Black-hatred? What are you talking about? We are Counter-Semitic and love black-people. This is why, against the wishes of tyrannical Jewish-supremacists, we want blacks and all other minority races in our nation to have the opportunity to enjoy the same comforts that nationalism provides, as we want for ourselves.

You make it sound like, if I pointed out that labradors are slower than greyhounds, than it must necessarily mean that I hate labradors... Non sequitur... It does not follow.

Also, keep in mind, blacks were originally brought to this nation against their will... Can you guess who brought them here against their will? That's right, ze Jews!

In fact, less than 4% of white-Americans owned slaves in America. However, 30-40% of Jewish-families did own slaves, as well as, an overwhelming majority of the slave-ships which brought blacks from abroad and it was primarily Jewish crews that manned these ships: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUE0si2llTY&list=PLlmsOP10VIaB8bjAsZXevYWxrCEvGPYzb&index=7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmdjC34wSk&index=8&list=PLlmsOP10VIaB8bjAsZXevYWxrCEvGPYzb

Now... Ignore everything I just informed you on, call me a "Nazi" and scurry off, like you cucks always do.

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Easy...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial

Although I'm sure you will just scoff and claim that the Jew Controlled media is behind all the sources of the article. It's also interesting that all the 1000s of soldiers that went to the camps all were coached by the jews to tell the same lie. Even Eisenhower saw them first hand and said this: "I made the visit [to the Gotha concentration camp] deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to "propaganda."

But I'm sure that you will just sit in your chair and call me a jew myself or a jew lover.

You know it's interesting that some people think that the Holocaust was a lie, but still think that jews and blacks are subhuman, evil and/or should be taken out. Kind of ironic I guess.

As for scurry off, sure. I don't enjoy talking to people like you. Take that as your victory over a random stranger on the internet and go back to your alt right echo chamber hoping to finally topple the zionist regime, while the real world leaves you behind.

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You sure like to change subjects... I would too, if I got BTFO as hard as you just did.

So, now you want me to debunk the entire "Criticism Of Holocaust Denial", Wikipedia page??? That's your argument... I think you're out of your league here, kid.

Tell ya what... Can you answer these 21 questions?: http://i.imgur.com/Y7hx1Vb.png

Better yet, pick any 3... This way, I'm not asking you to debunk the entirety of holohoax-revisionism and you are not asking me to debunk every facet of the holohoax. This will give us a starting point. Fair?

But I'm sure that you will just sit in your chair and call me a jew myself or a jew lover.

You picture me as Remy from "Higher Learning", with a shaved head and Nazi-tattoos, don't you?... Oh, (((Hollywood)))! Lol

You know it's interesting that some people think that the Holocaust was a lie, but still think that jews and blacks are subhuman, evil and/or should be taken out. Kind of ironic I guess.

Who said Jews and Blacks are subhuman? Ya know, I get the feeling you win a lot of arguments... You just fabricate the arguments of others, then fight that illusory argument and claim victory, huh? (That's certainly a great way to stay retarded).

And you actually believe we want to "take out" Jews and blacks? (Paranoid-conspiracy theories much?) Lmao... Wow.

As for scurry off, sure. I don't enjoy talking to people like you. Take that as your victory over a random stranger on the internet and go back to your alt right echo chamber

Says the guy who came to OUR sub, got rekt intellectually, then out of the many arguments presented, sought refuge in a debate that has been raging for 70 years... I will take that as my victory.

Unless you wanna take the Pepsi-challenge and try your hand at any 3 of those 21 questions I presented above.

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TIL: Acknowledging differences is white supremacy?

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Oh, shit here come those facts:

Fixation Index Fixation index or FST, is a way to measure genetic distance between populations. https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/woodley-2009-is-homo-sapiens-polytypic-human-taxonomic-diversity-and-its-implications.pdf

The FST between Whites (British) and Blacks (Bantu) is 0.23. http://www.genetics.org/content/105/3/767.abstract