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Bill Maher vs Feminism

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February 9, 2014
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Title Bill Maher vs Feminism
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Upvotes 34
Comments 19
Date February 9, 2014 3:09 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–]trudatness 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here Bill is talking about violence against women in fundamentalist countries

You notice that 3rd Wave Feminists say nothing about these issues.

Why? Because 3rd Wavers aren't interested in anything other than their own personal ascension to power. They want to increase their privilege and nullify their negative consequences.

Feminists want to put preponderance of evidence rape tribunals in colleges, so college aged girls don't have to be accountable for their actions while they are drunk, but are dead silent about women in Pakistan getting shot for trying to go to school.

Now the White Knight on this panel is using the right feminist buzzwords like Patriarchy and Misogyny and fronting out the corporatist line of education and integration into the workforce, as a means of ending this violence, which I don't necessarily agree with.

I personally believe that criminalization of violence against women in these countries should be the bedrock of reform. Not because they are women, but because it is violence - and all violence is bad regardless of gender. Once you remove the threat of violence, and lift any and all educational and workplace constraints, then you can let society progress through a more healthier filter and male-female roles will be redefined in a more constructive way.

Now I did see a link to this issue on /r/feminism/ (which is good) but it didn't receive any attention or comments. In fact, as of this comment posting - it received 5 upvotes and 4 down votes.

Question in my mind is who are the 4 assholes on /r/feminism/ who downvoted this video?

The contributors on that sub are more pissed off about how smoking hot and threatening Kaley Cuoco is to them than they are about how women are raped and murdered in Pakistan.

This is all you really have to know about what contemporary feminism stands for. It's the biggest bullshit movement going.

[–]youdontknowmethatwel9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Right on. But isn't it funny that he still has to sprinkle his monologue with "we know women suffer", etc? Not a reflection on him but on our society that if you don't talk about women suffering, you're literally a rapist.

[–]Cosmicandy2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You have to either make the truth funny somehow, or constantly "clarify" and "preface" shit, or both. Very very few people will speak plainly to feminists about their ideas on rape culture or domestic violence for example without sprinkling their arguments with stuff like "Rape is only rivalled with murder for how horrible and reprehensible it is" (duh). Any time you even attempt to create a rational dialogue, expect to be called a rape apologist, a misogynist, or a victim blamer.

[–]christiefrontdrive 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This gets posted here from time to time, as it rightly deserves to be.

I love the line about married men:

Yeah.. and an indoor cat..

[–]jcslzr 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

the second part of this one is much better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr162OZ2Z0w

[–]Dopebear0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One of my favourite comedians.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't get Bill. Sometimes he seems blue pilled and sometimes he seems red pilled. I think he knows the whole spectrum and just uses it to get viewers.

[–]cagethepepper 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I always thought Bill Maher was heavily left wing, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Most of the things he talks about I agree with, and few I don't.

I sometimes had the suspicion that he'd be a hard core feminist because of his left wing demeanor.

But oh no, not at all. He's not far from Bill Burr. Love his podcasts.

[–]btcnr10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Here we go again, TRP is not exclusive to right wing, simply because crazy feminists lean to the left.

You keep following the same idiotic logic "crazy feminists are leftist, therefore leftists are crazy".

[–]cagethepepper 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, not at all. I'm way more left wing than right wing.

[–]SeekingAlpha7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

My guess is that many TRPers identify as somewhat anti-left in that much of leftist ideology is based on fantasy while conservative/reactionary ideology tends to rely on the knowledge and wisdom gained from what has worked in the past (problematic in the face of accelerating technological change, no doubt).

Ultimately, a TRPer ought to seek a life free from ideology (though this sentiment is very much ideological in its own right).

[–]btcnr2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

much of leftist ideology is based on fantasy

What nonsense. Rightist ideology is based on fantasy, just listen to right-wing radio or watch their TV, it's a complete reality distortion field mixed with racism and nationalism.

Also just because something worked in the past at the expense of people's liberties, doesn't make it a good thing in the modern world - slavery, women not allowed to vote, blacks not allowed to vote, religious indoctrination, etc.

[–]Glenbert-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

As CH's tag line says, "where pretty lies go to die." Go to die. There all pretty lies that end up making things sh*ttier in the long run. Sure, the right has them too, but the left has a lot more of them.

I was always a lot more on the left until TRP was forced down my throat by my ex. It's weird how much more sympathetic to conservatism I now am than I ever had been. Though nothing will ever convince me that Bush was a good president.

[–]SeekingAlpha3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Bush was not a conservative. Largest expansion of the federal government in history.

[–]btcnr2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

When did the right wingers behave conservatively or fiscally responsibly? It's complete fantasy-based propaganda. We had the largest surplus under Clinton and biggest deficit under Reagan, Bush, and the other Bush.

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/files/legacy/budget_deficit_or_surplus.jpg

[–]SeekingAlpha2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're looking at an incredibly small window of time in history (and the US economy was going bonkers in the late 90s...would regulation have helped it do better?).

I'm not here to debate the efficacy of contemporary political ideologies or to declare one political stance for all TRP, however, I stand by my claim that TRP is fairly heavily of the anti-leftist (read: anti-Marxist) persuasion. There are exceptions.

[–]btcnr-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're looking at an incredibly small window of time in history

We're talking the last 40 years, the whole time this fantasy propaganda has been promoted.

[–]Glenbert0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Crazy socialists are also leftists, so...

[–]btcnr4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At least socialist programs are a plan for what to do with poor/uneducated millions. What's the right wing plan? Let them starve to death?

With automation displacing them from their jobs more and more we will soon have an army of poor uneducated frustrated people, it will only get worse, we simply don't have enough "dumb" jobs for all of them. Letting these people off the social support will result in a civil war at best. We already have poor idiots attacking the Google bus.

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