I am a recovering beta-male indoctrinated to be a provider by growing up around traditionalists. Recently, I’ve had an experience I feel is worth sharing.

I ended a relationship with longish-term relationship with a HB6.5. Initially she was very sweet to me, but her entitled, narcissistic and tempter-tantrum throwing persona came out within a couple months. I let this go on because she let me “grab her by the pussy.”

Despite having a bad case of feels, I broke up with her. At the same time I stumbled upon this subreddit, and started reading some of the recommended articles. A few weeks after the break up, she started initiating contact with me again. I chose to allow contact to experiment with some RP principals, and that I had already come to terms with the idea that she was not going to ever become LTR material (nor any other person for that matter).

Now, she is playing her game as hard as she can to get me back into the beta-provider role. I’ve been very clear about this relationship now being a FWB situation. I’m using it as an opportunity to practice maintaining frame, and being emotionally independent. Here are some of the things she’s done, things I’ve learned, and some wonderful things she’s said with my translation. I thought I would share them for the benefit of other men:

0) Women respond very quickly to the IDGAF. She rarely gives me an attitude with me anymore. If she does, I respond by giving her a nice hug instead of responding to the content of her whining. This shuts her up immediately. Trying to reason with her never got anywhere.

1) “I’m a lot older than I told you.”

Translation: “I’m over a decade older than you, and I’m looking for a hot-young beta with money. I’m willing to manipulate any fact in an attempt to control your choices.”

2) She maintained she had only had “3 relationships.” She is not “like other girls.” She is “not a slut.” She also “can’t remember” what her actual n-count is.

Translation: I road the cock carousel, just not quite as hard as my sorority sisters, and I’m still willing to omit details to control your choices.

3) “You think I’m a slut just because I was slutty with you on the first date. You were an exception!” (She came back to my place on the first date — and I have never called her a slut or even insinuated it. This is her projecting)

Translation: I only fuck really attractive guys on the first date.

4) “I’m attracted to alpha males, but I don’t go for them anymore because they don’t do what I tell them. LOL” (Not sure where she picked up the term “alpha male”).

Translation: Not sure what to translate here, this is pretty straightforward. She thought she was being funny.

5) “Only one man found my g-spot... once in my life.”

Translation: I am an alpha widow.

7) She got back on Tinder immediately after our breakup. Often times she races over to my apartment immediately after one of these dates so I can fuck her while she is still tipsy. From what I can gather she is now dating 5 other guys with whom she is supposedly not sleeping with (I’m not inclined to believe this, but it could be true.) This set of men are buying her expensive meals nearly every night of the week. She’s been given multiple gifts in the $500+ range. They are not told about each other, or me. She very excitedly tells me the details of the dates and about how lame these guys are.

Lesson 1: She’s attempting her own dread game on me. Except, IDGAF. She will eventually find another branch she likes via her dating; and that is okay. She’s not the one, she’s just the one right at this moment…

Lesson 2: Never ever pay for anything. She does not feel any need to reciprocate with sex. In fact, if she did then in her mind she would be a prostitute. She expects gifts, but gifts alone will not make her attracted to a man that she is not attracted to. She liked the way they look for the initial Tinder swipe, but in person they’re just not alpha enough for her, or she claims they smell bad or act weird.

Lesson 3: Escalate immediately. Developing Chemistry is king, nothing else matters in any significant way. Women will hamster their way into your bed as long as there is chemistry. Gifts, paying for meals, etc., only act as narcissistic supply but will not yield any fruit in modern dating. With a woman like this, you are much better off BEING a status symbol than BUYING status symbols.

In closing:

The behavior of other men with this woman is completely blowing my mind. She’s been completely spoiled. She is use to and expects the attention and resources of five men despite being only slightly above average in attractiveness. There is no way a single man could compete with the attention that a reasonably attractive woman can receive via Tinder. She’s come to expect this level of attention — even if she were to only date one person. She also specifically selects betas so they are submissive and she’s trying to get off the cock carousel.