First post anywhere... thank you.

RedSunBlue · 2013-07-08T03:51:56+00:00

Disclaimer: I do not have a son and my dad is not red pill'd, but I this is how I would approach this situation.

Preaching to children, or anyone for that matter, is often the least effective means of getting to them. My own father often tried to give me advice on sports, specifically wrestling, but since I was clearly in better shape than him at the time and he had never engaged in competitive combat sports himself, I just brushed off his advice with a mental, "The fuck do you know?" Looking back, the things he told me were, although lacking sport specifics, absolutely correct but he lacked the visible credentials for me to accept his advice nor was I in any mental state to accept said advice at the time.

If I was in your situation, I would begin bringing my various hot fuck buddies around the house when my son was there. I would make it seem accidental and brief, perhaps I told her to come by to pick something of hers up while my son is there being beta with his girlfriend. Maybe he would accidentally see me spank fuck buddy #3 on her way out. Maybe he would stumble upon some hot underwear stuffed in a couch cushion. Even better would be if you can actively flirt with a waitress or store person while you're out doing things with your son. In any case, what you want to do is show that you know what you're talking about by establishing your credibility with women.

The writing is on the wall for your son's spectacular beta meltdown. Your job will be to be there in the aftermath. Sympathize with him ("Yeah, been there, got dumped.") but don't start listing the things he did wrong, the things he should've done, or otherwise rub his face in his shortcomings. That will close him off. Instead, offer an anecdote about a similar experience of your own -- if you've successfully made the blue-to-red transition, you should have one. If your son is receptive, he will probe for specifics, and this is where you drop some red pill truth on him.

Really, you could replace "son" with "friend" and I still think this plan would work.

GayLubeOil · 2013-07-08T03:15:26+00:00

The way most of us became Redpill is by getting fucked over by a woman. Rather than getting angry about it, we just accepted it as female nature. Once this girl is done feeding of your son she will move on to the next guy. This process will repeat until your son wisens up swallows the redpill. Your son's mother is definitely feeding him the blue pill by the way Be nice to this girl she is so sweat etc. You got her presents awww!

zionController · 2013-07-08T06:04:56+00:00

Give him and his gf a solid evening alone together.

"I'm going to the movies, be back at 10, don't misbehave"

VZPurp · 2013-07-08T07:08:21+00:00

I'd go with zionController's advice here. You can't talk him into it or beat it into his head, but you can provide him the tools (freedom/temptation) to explore.

As for his hobby: There's nothing wrong with art, even if the manifestation in the physical world doesn't come out looking great. It's important to have productive hobbies, for sure, but to trash art is pointless.

You could hate all of my work, think it's ugly, poorly written, or badly composed; it wouldn't matter to me, because my creations bring a certain happiness to my life that no external source can yield.

If you're concerned that this is all he'll do, take up a productive hobby with him. Granted, this is hard because you don't see him often, but perhaps it'll motivate him to stick with it in his own time.

DesiAntiFeminist · 2013-07-08T07:57:11+00:00

Write down the TRP analysis & prognosis of his relationshit with HotChick. Seal it in an envelope that he can open the day after she dumps him.

redpillschool · 2013-07-08T13:57:34+00:00

Best fatherly advice is to give him guidelines and let him fail.

Failure is the catalyst for improvement.

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-07-08T20:51:58+00:00

I wasn't ready to become red pill until I got burned multiple times. He just has to get burned. Think of it as part of becoming a man. He'll be perfectly fine. Just after he fucks up and comes to you for advice, give him some. He probably won't immediately take it, but in time he'll come to his own conclusions.

wrongful_ignorance · 2013-07-08T04:27:37+00:00

Loose the neediness of wanting to tell him how to act for major things, it's counter-productive...

make him be the one that is respectful and receptive of your advice, so use it very very sparingly, don't even slip up once with some face palm, show your indifference of the outcome of his situation yet demonstrate the complete opposite controlled outcomes philosophy in all aspects of your life that are viewable by him.

n4cer0126 · 2013-07-08T05:06:52+00:00

Doesn't seem like there's much you can do at the moment other than sit back & hope the impending train wreck that will be the break up of his relationship when this bitch dumps him isn't one that will have lasting effects on him. I know it's hard to see your son suffer such a fate but remember everyone learns more from failures than successes especially kids.

But the upside will be that he'll be much more receptive to the red pill afterwards, when he wonders what went wrong, explain this all to him & hopefully his life changes for the better

The old saying "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink" is very apt when it pertains to blue pillers, you can't force your son to embrace TRP & if you did you'd like do much more harm than good. The time will come when you'll have a chance to make a difference but that time is not now. All the best

Hokuten85 · 2013-07-08T16:25:47+00:00

I believe that one of my father's greatest failings with me was not providing a role model for learning how to be a man. He has aspergers, so in hindsight, his behavior now makes sense to me...but it didn't really help matters.

I never had that role model for showing me how to interact with women. My dad was largely distant. Didn't joke and when he did it came across as him just being a complete asshole. He was just there. Cold and not engaged. He never really interacted with my mother in any meaningful ways while in view of his children.

I've noticed that I've picked up some of these behaviors and while I'm working on them...it's tough to overcome. My advice is that you need to show him how to do these things. Be around women and interact with them. When you get a positive reaction from him, cue your son into it...so he know's what a 'win' looks like. He needs to see it working.

Introduce him to TRP. Start the education now. He'll likely fuck up this first relationship. You should actually be rooting for him to fuck it up, but if you can provide the basics of TRP then he'll be able to recognize where he failed all that much easier. It makes the rejection easier to stomach when you can pinpoint when you understand the whys of things.

Show him that it's ok to be a man. Show him how to be a man, because he's constantly barraged by blue pill propaganda. He needs to see it working.

favours_of_the_moon · 2013-07-08T03:28:12+00:00

Art is money dude. First off, you can work for an ad agency. Secondly, you can paint some bullshit pastel lighthouse and some dentist will pay $800 for it, write it off on his taxes and put it in his clinic.

Meanwhile, write a really cool book of poems and no one gives a shit. lol

Maybe you could do activities with the kid. Take up a martial arts course with him or something.

Title	First post anywhere... thank you.
Author	almostkindness
Upvotes	16
Comments	15
Date	July 8, 2013 2:55 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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