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HELP! Need advice! Conversation tips / Alpha tips needed!

EndoScorpion

November 20, 2013
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Title HELP! Need advice! Conversation tips / Alpha tips needed!
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EndoScorpion

Upvotes 0
Comments 7
Date November 20, 2013 5:53 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1r1ili/help_need_advice_conversation_tips_alpha_tips/
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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I dunno. Try both and come back and report on which one works better.

[–]EndoScorpion[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sup rabbit! You're fast...Speed FTW, upvote... im still editing though

[–]EndoScorpion[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also, I feel like it's different with each girl too though

[–]puaSenator 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Each situation is different. But for the most part, first impressions are very important as they set up the initial frame. So do whatever you think will create the most value with your current skill sets.

[–]3trplurker 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Depends on the setting and situation. And what's with this "you like" bullshit, we're not in highschool. She'll smell your emotions radiating off you and seek to mentally fuck you up. You need to approach all women with a non-nonchalant do-not-care attitude. It's inner game, once you stop focusing on the girl validating you then things go much better.

As for the advice, yes that's the initial stage of seduction when your establishing frame. When you first meet someone there will be a sizing up period where you each make deductions about the other and then using those deductions you create a subconscious set of rules. That is what is known as frame and we establish one with every person we interact with every day. You buying a soda from a store has the frame of you being the customer and the cashier being the server. In that same way you meeting / opening a girl requires a frame and as the male you establish it by using those subconscious signals.

[–]EndoScorpion[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nice advice trplurker. I can hide my emotions but not all of the time.

Also, I have this friendly polite habit in my head, where I try to make a pleasant conversation, when I'd prefer an ambiguous conversation. Of course I'd want to mix in DHV stories/qualifiers/jokes etc, calibrating for whatever subconscious reactions I can try and pick up.

The default, small talk, pleasant conversation crap pisses me off, I feel invisible social pressure to make a conversation pleasant, and that is so blue pill

[–]3trplurker 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The default, small talk, pleasant conversation crap pisses me off, I feel invisible social pressure to make a conversation pleasant, and that is so blue pill

It's ok, it takes time and practice to reform yourself. The key is to keep approaching, over and over again. Keep practicing game, see every girl as an opportunity for practice. When (not if) you fuck up, don't be angry at yourself, instead look back and realize where you fucked up and make a promise not to do it again. Experiment with different conversation tactics, different things to do and so forth. I talk with my hands a lot, making stories and what have you. I found that I'm most comfortable initiating kino this way, during one of my stories I'll have my hand come to rest on her shoulder or arm for a few seconds while I continue talking. Things like that are different for each guy and you need to discover your own tactics and methods.

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