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[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 13 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I always hear about men having porn ideals for their women but never actually see it. Seems like a false equivalent people use to try and show that both sides are just as messed up. Most men aren't looking for pornstars.
[–]AlwaysLateToThreads27 points28 points29 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm happy with naked women in general, especially fit ones. I think most men are like this.
[–]Modredpillschool17 points18 points19 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I can confirm: guy here - likes boobs.
[–]t21spectre0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The bigger, the better.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seconded. I don't care what they do in bed as long as they show intent (i.e, don't just lay there and expect you to do everything).
In fact, it's fucking annoying if they start doing all the "oh yeah, fuck me" stupid pornstar shit. Nobody says that. It doesn't sound good, it makes me want to stop and give them a lecture.
I do expect reciprocation if oral is involved though.
edit: women are the kinky ones in my experience though. As soon as you bring them close to orgasm and get a finger up their arse, the floodgates are open. Men are generally just happy to see some tits bounce and get a good finish.
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[–]prometheussfire2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think that is women overhearing males say pornstar xyz is hot. So they take that as what they want and their minds run with it. It is women trying to eliminate that insecurity.
[–]MrStinky8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
These 2 quotes are brilliant (emphasis mine):
I have fallen in love with so many women, I can't even begin to say. I've been engaged twice and in several different serious relationships. Have I ever been loved by a woman for who I was? I don't even know. I really don't know
and
Point is, mortality kicks in. Once people start worrying about whether they should hold out longer or just settle down because they only have so much longer left to live anyway, they figure it's going to be better to go ahead and start to love someone who isn't perfect for them. Or, they get bitter and get cats. Y'know, because they're petulant and they protest. And that is completely shit. The idea that marriage is outdated and hookup culture is better suited to the present is shit. Hookup culture is a symptom of media worship more than anything else. It lets people build a serial-killer style shrine in their heads decorated with the bodies and sexual experiences they've accumulated over the years, and pushes further and further into obscurity the prospect of any meaningful connection. People convince themselves that they deserve this, that nobody could possibly want to put up with who they really are and love them in spite of their difficulties, so they take this as some sort of concession, as some sort of meat market/casino hybrid that everyone is entitled to play for as long as they can remain attractive
Point is, mortality kicks in. Once people start worrying about whether they should hold out longer or just settle down because they only have so much longer left to live anyway, they figure it's going to be better to go ahead and start to love someone who isn't perfect for them. Or, they get bitter and get cats. Y'know, because they're petulant and they protest.
And that is completely shit. The idea that marriage is outdated and hookup culture is better suited to the present is shit. Hookup culture is a symptom of media worship more than anything else. It lets people build a serial-killer style shrine in their heads decorated with the bodies and sexual experiences they've accumulated over the years, and pushes further and further into obscurity the prospect of any meaningful connection. People convince themselves that they deserve this, that nobody could possibly want to put up with who they really are and love them in spite of their difficulties, so they take this as some sort of concession, as some sort of meat market/casino hybrid that everyone is entitled to play for as long as they can remain attractive
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My problem is that his argument is like a perfect world fallacy - he is comparing the current state of affairs to an idealistic state where people are completely logical and never act on their emotion.
The truth is that human kind fucking runs on emotion. The reason why anything ever gets done is not because some vulcan minded person reasons why its best for society, but because he/she is either exited about doing it or is wanting to do a good job so that he/she can get paid better later on and use that money on the things that make her happy.
You are never going to go to a fully logical human population. As it is right now, its going to be. Its neither good nor bad, and it can be worse or it can be better. You can't change it. All you can do is work within its rules to carve out a niche for yourself and if hookup lifestyle is the way to do it, than that lifestyle is good for you.
[–]MrStinky2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It may be idealism. It may also be his personal standards. Some people cannot bring themselves to change themselves -- and since they cannot change their environment -- they piss and moan instead. Nothing wrong with that. After all it is healthy to have disdain for the current sexual climate. That is the main reason we are here and are adherents to the Red Pill Philosophy. But you can't sit by idly after pissing and moaning. You have to take action. Problem is some men will do nothing beyond that. Also, some men don't want hookup culture. Hookup culture works for me because I'm never getting married so I need to get laid on the regular by promiscuous women, but that doesn't mean I (and this guy) don't want meaningful relationships with the opposite sex. Problem is they are becoming increasingly harder to find
[–]Nutz767 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Re the first quote, women don't love the way men do.
http://therationalmale.com/2012/09/10/men-in-love/
[–]md6199 points10 points11 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only somewhat spot on. He gets that there is an unrealistic portrayal of relationships in the media, and he even touches on the idea of the Wall. What he completely misses is any insight into the actual nature of women as part of the problem and instead just blames it on society. Still a blue pill way of thinking, but at least he's not completely blind. Maybe we'll see him around here in a couples months.
[–]TheIslander8299 points10 points11 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I don't think he's spot on at all.
He seems to think the problem is solvable.
You can't fix it, bro. Just learn how to get laid and watch society decline before your very eyes.
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[–]TheIslander8292 points3 points4 points 13 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
What's your plan then? On getting laid and watching society crumble? Im curious.
Yes. We can't just "change society", that takes generations to do. Our time in this world is limited, so don't waste yours chasing fantasy scenarios.
Is it working out for you? Are you happy? Happier than when you were a blue pill?
It's working out. Way happier, you have no idea. I never dreamed I'd be at this level of good that my biggest issue is picking which girl deserves my time vs. another. That I'd have so many girls I sometimes forget I was talking to one and she just fades into the past as a random number entry on my phone's address book. I'd never thought I'd be good enough to get phone numbers 100% of the time, either. That's right, 100%. I don't get declined, ever. Also, phones are bullshit... it's postponing the interaction for later instead of building attraction right then and there. I use the phone for when I HAVE to leave and postpone it.
If you would've told my 14-year-old self that by my age I'd be this good with women, I would've called bullshit.
How have you changed your outlook in life in a way that guarantees getting laid?
I am the God of sex. I can get laid whenever I want. All the girls want me all the time.
This mindset turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy. The mindset itself is attractive to women.
[–]chiffonade-7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That I'd have so many girls I sometimes forget I was talking to one and she just fades into the past as a random number entry on my phone's address book
this is the one of the biggest manifestations of redpill/game change in 'abundance mentality'. you literally forget about girls you're trying to bang or are banging, because there are so many. your standards become super high. you fuck, and forget. you turn into a flake. you send text messages just to fuck with people.
to use a reddit meme, sudden clarity clarence when you realize that this is how it has been for attractive women since they were 12 years old. for many of them, it's just an endless blur of cocks and phone numbers stretching back into their childhood. ENDLESS BLUR OF COCKS.
total 180 mentally. feels good man. even experiencing this kind of abundance for a SHORT TIME completely rewires the way your brain works.
[–]Hajimotto 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I do not think that women inherently have a flaw in them that make them unlovable or something. I just think that how women are currently raised and cultured is not in accord to how men should act. Once we identify the problem, in how women interact with men, then we can start making steps to 'fix' the interactions.
[–]TheIslander8290 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm talking about societal behavior, not women as women themselves.
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