The Anglosphere

goodguyalan · 2014-01-29T23:20:48+00:00

In a non-English speaking country the feminist bullshit hasn't spread that much. I'm from Romania. If you have any specific questions feel free to ask.

Perrodepaz · 2014-01-29T23:58:04+00:00

I get the impression the Scandanavian countries are even worse than the English speaking ones in terms of feminist nuttiness?

Maybe it's just a matter of economics. Only wealthy countries can afford such frivolity?

fiat_lux_ · 2014-01-29T23:27:43+00:00

The second question, is there something about Anglo (english speaking) culture specifically that causes the behaviors and situations discussed on this forum. I often hear things are better in Eastern Europe, Asia or Latin America. Why would things be better in a non-English speaking country?

I've found a lot of the stereotypes to be close to truth in this regard. I wouldn't say it's "better" overall, because they tend to be a lot worse socioeconomically.

However, when I look to Eastern Europeans and Asians, they don't care for gender politics, and generally much more conservative in that regard. There's a lot of reasons I've gleaned. One example is their war torn histories: men being killed (for some age ranges, up to 4 out of 5 Russian men were wiped out in ww2), lack of eligible bachelors, mothers sharing their experiences with their daughters... Not sure how far that trauma passed along, since it's been awhile, but that's where some of the stereotype comes from at least where I was from.

Another is the life expectancy (male life expectancy is about 12 years shorter than female life expectancy). You'll see similar numbers from other ex-soviet states like Ukraine and Belarus. It's related to alcoholism/depression among other factors. It's just hard to find "a good man".

Another is just their religion.

For Asians, it's a bit different. But there's still that element of traditionalism. For poorer Asians, like Chinese and SEA ones, it has a lot to do with socioeconomics. "Hypergamy" (the standard definition involving "marital social mobility", not the TRP one) is accepted and even encouraged there.

Those are just a few I've looked into, but I'm sure others have more to add.

So I wouldn't focus just on the language aspect (Anglo vs non Anglo). The language barrier was a problem, but it's not like the First and Second World were open to most of each other's ideas when modern feminism took off.

If you do want to focus specifically on the language facet and how it might relate to people's way of thinking, it's very complicated, but one place you can start is on the Eastern vs Western dichotomy between East Asian cultures and Western (liberal democratic) ones. Prof Richard E Nesbitt is a foremost expert on the matter so his works should help.

le_king_falcon · 2014-01-30T09:31:43+00:00

Well, I lived in Britain, I am Hungarian, I was never in the US. My really negative experience with young British women I could never fully explain, but it is something along the lines of an everyday traditionalism or classiness disappearing.

I mean, let me talk about my mother as a contrast:

She thinks a woman must have self-criticism and that means dressing in a way that suits her, her legs are too thin so she always wears loose flowing long pants, she abhors fat women wearing miniskirts and suchlike, showing off the rolls, to her it is absolutely not classy. A 60 years old British woman would agree. A 20 years old not.
She absolutely does not approve of women cussing, swearing, yelling, fighting or hard drinking. To her a drunken woman is a huge shame. She thinks classy women must stop drinking at the slightly giggly phase. Same way in Britain you never see the grandma plastered, but the young women often.
She isn't 100% "oldschool" for example originally she could not cook and learned it from my father. Still she considers a dirty or disorderly house a huge shame for the woman. I saw many houses that looked like the aftermath of an air strike in the UK. Same thing. British women used to be meticulous homemakers in the past.

All in all the average 20 year old girl my mother would have considered some kind of an extremely lower class tramp. But wait, my mother is not actually from some blue blood family. Her dad was a rural blacksmith turned urban metalworker. She has no college degree. Still this kind of class is not that kind of class that requires you to be high-born or rich. It's just self-respect kind of class. Or more like it is a sign of upwards social mobility: her dad was a metalworker, but the husband not and my the son clearly not. She sort of understood people who want to "make it" and get into the upper classes may as well start to behave classy.

So my outsider experience with young British women can be defined as a certain loss of classy self-respect, the acceptance of absolutely white-trash, "lumpen-proletariat" behaviors even in middle-class society. Even though they have college degrees and dream about a career.

I have not seen this in France, Austria, Germany, it's not a "Western" thing but a specifically British or maybe Anglosphere thing. German - Austrian women are kinda cold but neat, polite, rational. The French are just cute and sweet.

Sure there is a huge feminism in Austria e.g. but it somehow does not tell women behaving trashy is somehow OK.

What can explain this? My bet is that from 1968 on the counter-culture in the Anglosphere was strong: hippies, rockers, student rebels... maybe if her mom was at Woodstock it explains it.

le_king_falcon · 2014-01-30T15:03:40+00:00

As an Englishmen I'll say that American women tend to be a lot more brash and loud. They are also often much more polar in their opinions, in my limited experience. It's much harder to find American women who are moderate anything, especially politics and religion.

Aussie women I see as yank-lite.

Most of the shit is universal though. Entitlement complexes, princess complexes, superiority complexes, over estimated self worth and general bitchiness. Basically entitled shitty brats who are often total hamplanets thinking that I should prostrate myself merely for a fleeting second of their attention. Unless I am their hypergamous next step, in which case they'll hop on my cock with reckless abandon.

Bar some minor surface differences the game is the exact same.

If I had to choose I'd take a British woman for literally three reasons.

Very likely to be atheist or agnostic which suits me, CBA arguing over ideological differences.
The right kind of British accent is in my opinion the very epitome of feminine.
I know British culture so obviously I'm in my comfort zone there.

Title	The Anglosphere
Author	Perrodepaz
Upvotes	3
Comments	7
Date	January 29, 2014 11:07 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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