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The False Dichotomy Between “Outer” & “Inner” Game‏

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January 16, 2014
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Title The False Dichotomy Between “Outer” & “Inner” Game‏
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Upvotes 4
Comments 5
Date January 16, 2014 5:34 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The comments from Badger, another manosphere/game blogger are especially gold, here's one of his comments:

One other thing: “inner game” discussion is sometimes laced with the “women have a window into your soul” theory, a scare tactic that tells men that women can magically see through them and if they have any kind of nerves when running their game, women will be able to tell and so tactical game is pointless until you have a Biddhistic level of internal state control. IOW, “you won’t succeed so don’t even try.”

Women obviously have a vested interest in promoting the idea that they can read your mind, and another vested interest in telling themselves that they can do so and would never fall for a “fake guy.” A certain type of person has a further personal investment in the idea that they can “read people;” I’ve generally found that “people-readers” are really good at projection.

I quoted LaidNYC on this point who said “it’s all bullshit.” And generally speaking every person’s nervousness is bigger in their own head than it is externally, if you are self-aware of your nerves it’s probably not displaying as much as you think.

http://badgerhut.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/remember-that-women-get-approachee-anxiety/

Women do have very well-developed detectors for cues to emotional state, probably more developed than men’s on the whole. However, they only work in particular ways; Buss is right that perception can become deception, you can fake out those instruments. The early seduction guys found many effective ways to do that.

[–]SomersetRaglan1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Ok, so its several times now that I'm seeing the claim that opponents of pick up have called it rape. Was I out sick that day? Who said pick up was rape?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Feminists have criticized game for everything under the sun. A couple of people got under heat for pickup in Toronto from what I heard.

[–]SomersetRaglan-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I read about that. And..... to a certain extent, i think what they were doing was annoying. The men in those seminars often put game and routine before self improvement, and make no effort to preselect targets. They go hunting with the equivalent of a bazooka and just hope to make it up in bulk. Its great for breaking down approach anxiety, but I feel like it misses much of what this sub is about.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I totally agree with you. These folks used zero common sense, and approached people en mass, regardless of whether it would be received well. Although I never really was as bad as these people, I sorta was a bit excessive with it without really gauging things when I first started out a couple years ago. Looking back, I completely agree with you, and people should use some common sense before going into this. Snipping and going where you fit in (hobbies, niche, social circles/scenes/day gaming in the right places ect.. is the best way to go) A lot of these people don't get their inner game settled before doing this stuff, which of course won't get most folks far.

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