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Where does NoFap fit in with TRP philosophy?

rumbledust

December 18, 2013
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Title Where does NoFap fit in with TRP philosophy?
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rumbledust

Upvotes 6
Comments 20
Date December 18, 2013 8:02 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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Comments

[–]hiyuh 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I don't believe that it will magically change your life like some people claim, but it does help a lot with discipline. Just like video games and other things like that, moderation is the key. nofap isn't the worst way to start living in that mindset IMO.

[–]kzwrp 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Have you ever tried not jerking off for longer than seven days?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I have. After about ten days I become so preoccupied with sex and sexual release that I find it impossible to concentrate on anything else. I am a software developer and I swear to you I can't even write a for loop when my brain gets like this.

[+]kzwrp -10 points-9 points-8 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Your username here is /u/the_reddest_pill, do you want to suggest you can't get one lay in seven days, three of them on the weekend...?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I suck at this shit.

[–]kzwrp -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You know what to do, sidebar's over there ================================>

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks bro, I was having trouble finding it.

[–]kzwrp 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It fits well, in that NoFap promotes delayed gratification.

As with all good things in life, you work hard, and receive the benefits only after the work is done.

That is, you take all the energy you have through not fapping, improve your self, read a dozen books a week, hit the gym three times or more, improve your career in several ways you wouldn't have thought possible, then take the confidence out on the streets, in bars, clubs or any place you like gaming, and go for the lay.

Easy as that.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't lower free testosterone, it only inhibits testosterone receptors in the brain. So it will pacify you, but it won't affect your weightlifting.

[–]Glorious_Master 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

testosterone doesn't even cross the blood brain barrier. estradiol does. (and than is converted back to testosterone or DHT i think , I alrady forgot this shit)

edit - oh and the pacification effect is done via prolactin

edit 2- which actually does affect weightlifting performance since prolactin inhibits dopamine and vice versa

dat dere memory chain

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So I looked it up and I said "testosterone receptors" when in fact I meant "androgen receptors". I remembered incorrectly.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm getting my data from here: http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/book/export/html/148. You can see below that I misremembered "androgen receptors" as "testosterone receptors". It seems like masturbation does not result in lowered testosterone levels, but complete abstinence does result in slightly elevated T levels. So if you don't jerk off or have sex at all, that might slightly boost your gains. Somehow, I feel like total abstinence in pursuit of gains is putting the cart before the horse, but it depends on your goals.

[–]sadshark 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's my experience.

I'm on my 14th day of nofap. In these 14 days I haven't gotten laid, and here's how it turned me having a full ballsack:

1) I'm more aggresive. Not in the "i will fight people" kind, but aggresive in words, arguments and overall interactions. I used to be a really chill, calm and "think before you speak" kind of guy. This agressivness for me is amazing.

2) I am much more logical. I see every situation from a higher ground. I see in perspective and I am much more assertive of social situations.

3) I am MUCH more focused. Fapping was a constant distraction. Now, nowing that I absolutely CAN NOT masturbate it comes and goes out of my mind faster than a bullet.

4) My workflow has increased exponentially. I am a freelancer and I've done more work in the last 2 weeks than I've done in the last 2 months.

5) Women. I don't know if this is bullshit or not but I've noticed a pattern in my body language and in response to women. Just a few hours ago I went to the store to buy a bottle of whisky. I was ALL STAINED in paint, in shitty clothes and overall looked like shit because I was painting my new office. Anyway, the cashier flirted with me, I flirted back (I will go into details if you want) and I asked her in a dead serious voice "what's your name?" - "Maria" - "Cool, pulling out my phone give me your number, I'll call you". She gives me her number, I give her a call, her phone rings from her pocket, i say "Save it, I don't answer to unknown numbers, so now you have my number as well". This is the kind of shit I would've never done if I would've fapped a few hours ago. I am hungry for sex, and that's a good thing. Secondly, I'm not sure if I want to believe this, but there are some theories on /r/nofap that talk about giving out some 'pheromones' when your ballsack is ready to burst.

6) I lift with a passion I've never experienced. It's like a release for all the previously built anger. This is an amazing thing for me since I'm a skinny motherfucker and I need to gain.

7) Apetite. I eat like there's no food left on the planet. This might not be attributed directly to nofap and instead to the lifting I do. Either way, one thing leads to another and for someone looking to gain muscle this is a good thing.

Anyway, I don't know how this applies to anyone else, this is just what I observed in the past 14 days. The bad thing is: If I don't get a release soon I feel like I'm gonna break my fucking monitor punching it. However, I will stay strong until I get a release in some vagina.

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[–]sadshark 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're experience is similar to what I've described above. Much more motivated and focused.

[–]Glorious_Master 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If I wanted to be on edge all the time I'd rather practice intermittent fasting. (edit- I actually do, but I meant longer a fast duration)

the only benefit of nofap is massive loads and hard errections about 2-3 days after. oh and time savings, but personally if I'm busy I don't fap

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I definitely haven't noticed an increased dependency on women?

I had been working on my mental strength before I saw that sub, it was just something that offered more mental discipline

[–]Glorious_Master 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

one time I was stuck 4 months without access to porn and internet in 2008 and even if I did fap at that time I was rather disinhibited in my response to sexual cues, or porn when I first logged on to it.

maybe thats the thing with nofap, not so much the act itself but exposure to better and better porn

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