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[–]radicalizedIncel58 points59 points60 points 7 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
Blue pilled men believe personality matters.
Red pilled men believe you can compensate for your ugliness by lifting.
Black pilled men know that only bones matter.
Women are basically x-ray machines. They are super fast, honed by millions of years of evolution to scan the bones of men and categorize them accordingly.
[–]MCATL224412 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I’d put being at least 6’ tall and having a good face of equal value as being rich ( to women)
Personality matters if you are confident or funny, but not nice. They just see beta bux
[–]radicalizedIncel21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Height + face + frame = bones.
I wouldn't say women are attracted to men with money at all. They are attracted to money and they have to take the man who has it as a consequence. That's why no money in the world will get a woman to feel for you what she feels for someone she's physically attracted to. Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates have never and will never experience passion and love from a woman the way a rando tall guy with a good looking face does. Girls may act like they're attracted to rich men, but that's what prostitutes do... so if you're ugly and rich, you might as well hire them instead.
[–]DrKoobold19901 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sometimes I'm glad I like men instead. This sub makes the alternative sound like living hell.
[–]Stahlboden0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm sorry, what exactly is meant by "frame"? Is it the width of the shoulders? Is it that you have to hold?
[–]radicalizedIncel4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Width of shoulders, size of wrists and hands, width and shape of rib cage, etc. Stuff you can only try to fraud with muscles.
But when redpillers say to hold frame they mean narrative or context or mental state or something like that, entirely different thing.
[–]MCATL22440 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wide shoulders/ big chest guy but small hands checking in lol
[–]mori_forthestreamer 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Oh God is this turning into an incel forum?
[–]radicalizedIncel13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Inceldom is on the rise overall so you'll be seeing us everywhere soon.
[–]TheYekke2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If you wish to concentrate on anything it should be to make enough cash to take two vacations as a sex tourist...a year.
[–]radicalizedIncel3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I already earn enough to be able to do that. I don't see the point though, I can already afford whores where I am if I wanted them.
[–]TheYekke5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Then why are you looking for a whore that will take more than half your shit in less than 8.2 years? Calculate the cost for that ‘free pussy’ over those years and it averages $1650 a fuck. That’s one heck of a whore on the open market.
Women can’t validate you, only you yourself can.
[–]radicalizedIncel6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I would like to have kids and to know that a part of me will live on. It would take the sting out of mortality and I don't want to live out the rest of my life watching myself and everyone I care about wither and die. Something should be growing too.
For that I'd gladly give up half my shit.
[–]Nobody-Zero-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have you looked into surrogacy?
[–]mori_forthestreamer 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
So I've been watching these looks matter video series and I now accept the incel phenomenon. Those videos just red pilled me.
[–]Alzapua 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Bones don't matter at all without the confidence.
[–]radicalizedIncel7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lol no.
Shy + pretty = teehee he's so cute, I'll help him break out of his shell
Confident + ugly = #MeToo
No guy is ever confident the first time he's with a girl but they hook up anyway.
Confidence = W O R T H L E S S
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Username checks out..
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
lol want to know how I know you’re not 7.5+?
[–]Alzapua 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm at least a strong 8.5 in most countries, physically speaking. My lack of game, confidence to approach and non existent social circle make me a 4 at best. Women don't approach.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
M8 being white and not ugly is an automatic 8.5+ in most countries.
If women don’t approach you, you are not an objective 8.5. Sorry bro.
[–]Alzapua 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I do have to say I have only been to countries in western Europe. 8+ is even a conservative estimation. I'm 6'5 with athletic build and good facial structure (and Dutch, so white). I have been approached half-assedly only a handful of times (maybe one in five evenings of going out.) but my lack of confidence made me self-sabotage anyway. The bottom line is, not approaching while being hot is really no way for a man to behave if he wants to get laid. This makes your appearance only a nice extra to jack up your success rate. You still have to be able to put in the work.
[–]BurntFoot 23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The solution is pretty simple: have a physically attractive personality teehee
[–]escalover 1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
God this is such a fucking script. Are women just NPCs? Because she saying that now while she’s young… And fucking Chad… But is soon as she’s older and she got a kidShe’ll change her tune desperately
[–]omegajelly200Locked, Stocked, and 2 Smoking Backhands6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She sounds like an ex-Chad victim though.
She would never say both personality and looks are important when she was busy getting plowed by the Chads.
[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Physical attraction is very important.
A good personality is very important.
A good salary is very important.
Good achievements are very important.
Each item on the "very important" list disqualifies some 80% of men. **That's 4 out of every 5 men!!!**
This dear ladies is why you can't find a good man. Because you have multiple demands, each of which disqualify 4 out of 5 men that are out there. If these are non negotiable, fine. Then shut up and stop bitching.
[–]omegajelly200Locked, Stocked, and 2 Smoking Backhands12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"B-b-b-b-but personality!"
Says ugly men and ugly women who can't compete on appearance.
[–]ShitArchonXPRCommander Data Incarnate but Furry1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
^
Also, being a slob about your appearance isn't indicative of a good personality.
[–]SilverGryphonWorking his way to the titty top7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It's 60% looks, 40% personality. Having a good personality on it's own will not get you laid, that is just a cold fact of reality.
[–]Alzapua -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Just as just having the looks will not get you laid.
[–]Kashim771 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You take personality tests for ONS.
That doesn't make sense. It still requires confidence to get a girl to sleep with you. And women don't really approach men. So you have to have the confidence to approach women.
[–]Kashim770 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh women really approach men when they find him hot enough. What do you think they are, some kind of robot? Some do and some don't, just like men. If they want a ONS, they don't give a shit about your personality.
[–]Alzapua 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women don't cold approach. They might say something to you drunkenly in a night venue. But nothing close to resembling an actual approach.
If they want a one night stand, they will make themselves very approachable. But there are enough thirsty guys approaching them for them to put in any effort. They have enough options and never need to approach. But this is something that is true in western Europe. I don't know about America, they might approach men there.
[–]otakuzodCeddit savior8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The title reminded me of Eurotrip's Scotty Doesn't Know. That song is actually perfect for describing a Good Girl.
[–]ChiliresidentHumble Hoe Columbo 2.06 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Le sigh. Women care about looks as much as men. Tinder/Bumble makes it easy for them to access good looking men while also being discreet so that if they want to, they can ride the cock carousel without anybody knowing it. Don’t kid yourself. This blabber about personality is just a front they put up for their orbiters.
[–]blackpillednormie22[S] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also look at the difference in likes, don't got to virtue signal on twitter.
[–]Chairman_Ellen_PaoPuts extra mayo on his roast beef tacos6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Reverse the genders and what happens? Oinkers get all upset that men don't like or want fat sows!
[–]ShitArchonXPRCommander Data Incarnate but Furry0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Flip the genders and what she's saying would be Hate Speech.
[–]Gttj-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ikr, what is even the point of this post. So dumb
[–]magx012 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's like he forgets at the root of all the "romance" crap is sex. I mean, there's a reason why his desire for "romance: came after puberty.
[–]SilverGryphonWorking his way to the titty top1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yes it all boils down to sex, this is why I turn down old and fat women who say they just want to be friends. I know that their end goal is getting into my pants, so I shut them down at the very start.
[–]TheYekke1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then get thee to Thailand or Burma
[–]Funcuz1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the kind of crap that's being forced down our throats on a daily basis by our education system and media. "Character is all that really matters." No, it really doesn't. The real tragedy is that there are some guys out there that are actually buying into it.
She's exactly correct. He's repeating BP lines like "what about muh personality?" If the genders were reversed, Person #2 would be considered a Horrible Misogynist for speaking the truth.
[–]mauibayaJust here to attention-whore-3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
I don't think all women are like this at all.. myself and my sister are attractive but I wouldn't solely go out with a guy based on their looks and extremely shallow/materialistic/vain guys completely put myself (& sister) off. As we probably realise that despite being good looking our personalities matter more in all situations (to us) and we would hope to not be chosen solely for that as that would feel to me like living a lie.
We also realise that you can be "ugly" and have a better personality than some ignorant "hot" (sickening millennial 🤮 skinny jeans, walks like an ape) guy. If a guy is well put together and clean etc doesn't come across as a lazy slob then I would "give him the time of day" to show me his personality and if his personality matched what I was looking for then I would not care about his looks.
You can be "ugly" (I'm including short here too) and be a leader, like outdoor activities, be practical, not materialistic, have goals and a busy life, good at DIY, dominant etc (be an "alpha") IMO. However being overweight is another point altogether as that shows lazyness. So if you are all counting being overweight/not attending the gym as being ugly then that's on you & can be rectified.
Look at gangsters/rappers that can get any girl they want, Snoop Dogg, Flava Flave, they are ugly as anything and getting women lining up for them. Yes they are rich but ugly alpha guy in the ghetto has got girls lined up too.
[–]cr1Z1s9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
lol you just have a slightly different definition of what being attractive is.
[–]mauibayaJust here to attention-whore1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
How so? We are talking about physical attraction
[–]cr1Z1s4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
the premise of this post is personality means shit without sexual attraction, ok? your response felt like you are legitimizing your preference and rationalizing it to put yourself on a moral high ground; you've said you disliked fat guys, what? fat guys can't have good personality?? and the shit about being lazy is just lame, being fat can be attributed to a lot of things not just being lazy. this man doesn't need to hear "oh you're just fine, just focus on personality and ignore these shallow people" what he needs to hear is "you better improve yourself in anyway you can to boost your odds" the market defines success, and it defines the price, and ain't nobody shopping for personality.
this man doesn't need to hear "oh you're just fine, just focus on personality and ignore these shallow people" what he needs to hear is "you better improve yourself in anyway you can to boost your odds" the market defines success, and it defines the price, and ain't nobody shopping for personality.
Money shot.
"Just have a good personality" never got any guy laid. It's almost as if it's designed to weed out the guys who aren't Chad enough to ignore it.
you've said you disliked fat guys, what? fat guys can't have good personality??
A guy with a good personality would have put the fork down instead of choosing calories over poon.
being fat can be attributed to a lot of things not just being lazy
CICO. There's only one thing being fat can be attributed to: people eat more calories than they burn.
[–]mauibayaJust here to attention-whore-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Well thanks for giving a response not starting with a brain-dead "lol" and actually starting an interesting conversation/debate.. Unless you have a disability what reason would you have to be fat? Fat doesn't magically appear from thin air & moving your hand to your mouth doesn't count as exercise. I don't dislike anyone but I would not date a fat guy, no.
I never said "you're fine focus on your personality" you should do all you can to look your best, be clean, tidy hair, do physical activity, clean clothes. You should also do all you can to have the best personality you can and become a well rounded person including being manly/alpha if you want a girl to find you attractive.
You can't seriously be ugly, fat and rubbish personality and wonder why no girls like you? At least eliminate two of the three.
[–]cr1Z1s3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
lol I'm sorry I've offended you, it was the first thing that came to my head, but I can see how it has the potential to sound patronizing. you're first sentence was "I don't think that all women are like this" and by this you mean women who find certain traits to be attractive and the absence of which is an automatic deal breaker regardless of personality right? then you would go and say that you find being fat is not an attractive quality and is an automatic deal breaker regardless of personality... sounds familiar? so you are entitled to your preferences and they are not?? also you say you and your sister are attractive, how is this relevant to your point? besides it's not verifiable and highly questionable lol! (sorry but I had to :D luv u darling)
[–]mauibayaJust here to attention-whore-3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not offended, honestly. Just like a debate!
I'm not saying people aren't entitled to what they find attractive.. I am just saying that you can be what mainstream may deem "ugly" (and I'm including short because of the common groans of short men) and still be found to be attractive.. there is hope for the uggos!! Lol
Being fat has a lot to do with personality whereas obesity is caused by laziness/lack of control in your personality. Ugliness cannot be changed per se. (Sin plastic surgery).
Solely was trying to say continue on your rp journey guys despite ugliness! Haha
[–]Kashim770 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
There are wheelchair-bound and one-legged bodybuilders so disability is also not an excuse. Fatness reflects laziness and lack of self-control.
[–]mr_kukGlory hole aficionado1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Rapist!
[–]cr1Z1s1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
wut?
[–]mr_kukGlory hole aficionado1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
To question a woman is worse than rape!
[–]cr1Z1s2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
how do you classify a women telling men how to get women ??
[–]mr_kukGlory hole aficionado0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The same as a Jew giving a dying SS soldier a sip of water, aka, the hight of moral superiority!
[–]KoloGuptaSr. Hamster Analyst8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
There's a lot of contradiction in your post.
You claim your sister and you are not shallow, yet group short men with ugly ones. Fail number one.
Giving a man you don't find attractive the "time of day" nets you free food, attention, and favors. You definitely don't turn down freebies. No loss for putting in zero effort. Fail number two.
You claim that despite being good looking, you realize that your personalities matter more to you. Virtue signaling. Fail number three.
You mentioned NOTHING about yourself and what you (your sister included) have to offer a man beyond being "attractive", as you claim. Getting men to fuck you does not necessarily mean you are attractive. It's a claim you are making that may or may not be accurate. Fail number four.
You claim you won't go out with a man based solely on his looks, then conclude your post by mentioning "ugly" (in your opinion) men with money and status who have girls lining up because these men have "great personalities". Cognitive dissonance on your part. This is telling, because you'll exhibit the same groupie and gold digger behavior, given the opportunity. Fail number five.
Nope, you're not shallow at all.
[–]mauibayaJust here to attention-whore-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
1 I was solely grouping short men with ugly ones because I know that it is the same common complaint for short men as the "ugly" of this post.
2 Nice generalisation, I 100% would never go on a date with someone for freebies and only if I saw potential, always offer to pay for my half.
3 So you do or don't want women to focus on improving their personality? Im the contradictory one?
4 I didn't mention anything I bring to the table because I'm not looking for a date here.
5 I didn't say because they have great personalities, I said because they have alpha personalities, personalities being the operative word. I didn't say Snoop Dogg gets dates because he's so nice, no..
[–]KoloGuptaSr. Hamster Analyst4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You'd date a short man you're not physically attracted to, if he has a great personality yourself, correct? Personality is what you're attracted to, unlike every other female who is attracted to looks?
Offering to pay your half means nothing. It doesn't mean you actually do. How about offering to (and paying) for the date once in a while? He is, after all, giving you his time and attention. Cue the excuses.
You either have personality or you don't. There's nothing to improve on, personality-wise, unless you're ugly and/or lack options.
If you're not looking for a date here, there was no reason to bring up how attractive you and your sister think you are. Irrelevant, if you're trying to give a logical argument. E for effort, in your attempt to do so. All you've done is attempt to duck when your BS is pointed out to you.
The only alpha men you mentioned are the ones with money and status.
Almost decent attempt at trying to portray your sister and yourself as unicorns.
Yes exactly! A personality 100% can make me attracted to a man if he is an alpha and "ugly"!
I don't know what your point about me paying for a date is? I'm not a feminist...
Of course you can improve on your personality.. got anxiety? Get therapy. Boring? Get a hobby.
What is my BS? I wasn't trying to invoke a riot just was giving my thoughts on the subject. As seems some people here are a meme of their own being ugly, fat, beta personalities and then blaming girls for not choosing them over better candidates and blaming it on the other man being good looking and tall whereas he probably is an alpha.. I also mentioned alpha Tyrone .. not just rich ones
[–]KoloGuptaSr. Hamster Analyst2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
There we go. Tell us how you really feel.
Cue the personal attacks. There's no attempt to incite a riot on my part.
Did you read the name and mission statement of this sub? Where Are All The Good Men. We discuss women who slut it up when they're young and attractive, then wonder why they can only settle for the men you just described. The problem is, even these bottom-of-the-barrel men are slowly becoming harder to ensnare.
Your BS was clearly outlined repeatedly by myself and others.
The personality "improvements" are unrelated to personality. The first is a medical issue, and the second is a problem that afflicts females primarily and that they then project on to men. Men don't complain about being boring or bored. A man can always find something to occupy himself with.
An attractive woman doesn't need to tell everyone she's attractive. It doesn't work that way.
You either have good manners, are kind and considerate of others, are nurturing and not selfish...or you're not. You don't learn how to have any of those traits. You can only learn how to PRETEND to have those traits to deceive people for long enough to get what you want from them. Your insults yet again reinforce all my points.
I didn't accuse you of being a feminist. You're ducking again. I pointed out (accurately, it seems) that you "offer" to pay your half. Your half only, should that miracle occur. You'll never pay for a man, nor put in any effort with one. This reinforces into my observation that you demonstrate nothing to offer a man beyond what you believe is your attractiveness and stellar, always-improving personality.
I'm going to conclude our intellectually stimulating rubbing of our minds here. Perhaps you can fill your need for attention elsewhere.
[–]mauibayaJust here to attention-whore-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I haven't given any personal insults to the people here I was speaking in general terms.
Maybe you are not a man that gets bored but plenty do. Anxiety 100% relates to personality as having anxiety unfolds into all aspects of your life including the way you approach situations, how you speak, how you communicate.
I wouldn't pay for a man's half on a first date no and not at all until we were in a relationship, I never implied I would, so I still don't understand your point here. You would like a woman to pay for you? What do you want in a woman other than looks and personality? You want me to offer to buy you a house too?
[–]mauibayaJust here to attention-whore-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know why you're so upset by my comments. Really, I'm just trying to have a discussion.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol this is such a meme
“I love short guys and personality MATTERS”
only dates tall assholes
Don't really know why anyone attempted to understand this broad's version of logic
Thanks for your insightful response
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