I suspect that it is mostly bottom of the barrel SMV fucking each other in a big pot. taking whatever they can get. I know a guy who did a threesome with his wife, and also another who did orgies and i learned the same from both of them which confirms this to me.

Orgies and ex clubs = 15 guys, 5 girls, 4 of the girls are fatties/old/a 4/10 at peak, with the rare college age crazy slut who has a nice body but a complete dog face. tons of old guys, ugly guys, really weird guys or fat guys who are average all around and just doing what they must to get laid as it is their only way.

The guy who went to Orgies confirmed this to me and he said in retrospect he only did them because it was his only hope to get laid, as with most there. He also said they always had weird hobbies and were usually strange people.

Swinging is basically cuckolding and guys convincing themselves they aren't but in reality they are. You can simply dump your wife and spin plates if you want variety and turn her into a plate. I imagine sex clubs are much the same, very low SMV men showing up as their only chance, and low SMV women and the rare 5/10 who is fucking insane red flag everywhere type.

This is just what I have come to suspect from both interacting with people who do it, and using Red pill to kinda understand the sort of person who would need to do that.