Here it is, my first step into the world of seduction. To start things off, here’s a little background information on myself. I’m an intelligent college student that takes a very scientific approach to everything. I like to look at a new challenge, gain the mental knowledge, then apply apply apply. I have been very successful with this approach for everything so far…. except women. It is now that I realize how much of an AFC I am and I’m willing to take steps to change that. I am currently reading “The Game”, watching RSD videos, and of course reading seddit. I currently have very little success when I go out and that needs to change. Last weekend I went out clubbing in NYC and here is my FR on how it went:
Day 1: 11pm: pre-game w/ friends to get pumped up, and avoid expenses at the bar 12am: arrive at the club. After stopping by at the coat check we go to the first dance floor, music is VERY loud. After a while my friend starts dancing w/ a 2 set so I enter. He starts grinding with the HB8 while I grab the HB7’s hand & dance (not grinding b/c I thought that making eye contact/ displaying confidence would be better, also I’ve grinded w/ so many girls just to have it end abruptly with them walking away). After dancing for a few songs I spin her around once, then a second time to bring her in to grind. As soon as this happens she immediately turns her head, giving a big IOI. I then take her aside to talk. After shooting the shit I start to neg her which works pretty well. The HB8 then comes up (I’m assuming she left my friend) and joins in. At this point I thought it was too late to switch targets so I stayed with the HB7. After talking about where we were from and stuff, the HB8 leaves and 4min. later comes back and takes her friend to leave with her. On the leave I managed a nice k-close but that was it. Overall, satisfied. 2am: I then went upstairs and danced on the stage w/ my friends and a girl, trying to create some social proof (I didn’t know how else to do this in a dance club, there really was nowhere to talk). As a 3 set walked by I grabbed one of them and demanded that they come on stage to dance. They immediately said no, but as they walked away I said “It’s ok, not all of us are adventurous” (didn’t really know what to say). They then turned around, and after 2 more negs, got them up on the stage to dance. I was so shocked that all it took was a neg to make her change her mind. Nothing really came of that. Throughout my time there I approached a lot but found my self at a lack of good openers. I was happy that I approached a lot but displeased of the rejection that happened a lot. I didn’t know how to generate social proof there so perhaps that was the issue, but I also didn’t have any good openers. Not really sure how to improve so im still working on that. Day 2: We went to a bar the 2nd night, and I was really looking forward to having a 2nd experience. On the way to the bar I opened up to a walking 9 set asking “do you know where ---- bar is?”. Of course they were going to the same place, but it went over well. I immediately gained social proof and entered w/ them (mostly girls). In the bar I opened to about 5 sets total.
- HB5 for confidence, a quick how’s your night going intro, talk briefly and break off.
- 5 set w/ a HB7,8,6. My target was the HB7. I gained the groups approval but didn’t really have anyway to separate or talk to the girl so that didn’t go any where.
- Tried to open but was rejected by the AMOG instantly a. Generally I always get that look like, who’s this short fucker trying to talk to us.
- Tried to open but didn’t gain group interest
- Similar Overall: I don’t have AA but question what to do within the first minute of walking up on a group and initiating conversation. I’d rate my self as a 6 out of 10 but I’m 5’6 and wonder if that’s working against me. I truly think that looks/height don’t matter but do feel that the height is working against me. I’m trying to figure out where to improve but don’t really know where. I feel like I come off as a little un-natural and that I’m really trying too hard. Any suggestion would be amazing. Feel free to ask questions for clarification on anything. I really want to start out on the right foot.
TL;DR: Made many approaches w/ no AA, got many rejections, one k-close. Another typical AFC night. Where to improve/what to read/watch?
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